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- A short, slightly over-indulgent summary of the Dante Unbound story and the hints about the role Parvos may play in the future.
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Drusus was indeed DE's way to celebrate Stallord, a formless entity who catalogues the lore and history of Warframes.
Now we need a frame called Vergil, which his entire lore is just him wanting to become more powerful
"Give me your godroll riven"
"No way, you have your own!"
"Well, I want yours too."
@@StallordD"If you want it you'll have to take it."
Dude I love warframe lore so much. It hits unbelievably different to any other IP i know
Just like everything else in the game. for better or for worse, everything warframe, is uniquely warframe.
I think of the relationship between Tenno and Warframe to be a sort of give and take. Almost like drifting in Pacific Rim. The Warframe's consciousness is generally weaker and fractured, even when a Tenno is there to calm them, but it still has some input, and a Tenno could voluntarily take a backseat role and act as a stabilizer so the Warframe can think clearly enough to act on its own. And sometimes maybe the frame's will surges over the Tenno. Or the Warframe is content with letting the Tenno do the work and merely provide the "muscle memory" needed to operate weapons and all that.
It may also depend on the Tenno's personality. Perhaps some Tenno have an easier time with some frames. Maybe some are notoriously uncooperative with a lot of Tenno. So the line between Warframe actions and Tenno actions can be blurry at times. Even to the Tenno, given the player's Tenno expressing confusion at the end of The Second Dream.
Even though Drusis lacked complete knowledge on the subject, he may have been on the right train of thought. Warframes, i believe, still have a soul and will of their own where the Tenno simply keep the infested madness at bay allowing them to coexist.
I think there is a possible mistake in the vid. Let me explain.
In the video, it is mentioned how Dante snuck into the Entrati labs while the Tenno rebelled against the Orokin, but I do not think this is the case. After all, in dialogue the event was referred to as the Warframe rebellion, not the Tenno rebellion. Instead, I think this is the period of time when the Warframes went insane due to the infestation. This idea of a Warframe rebellion is supported in the dialogue of the Warden in Duviri.
"You (Kullervo) witnessed the slaughter as the Orokin eradicated your defective, demented brothers and sisters... and did nothing to aid them, choosing to tremble in your cowardly seclusion."
"You saw the new generation of your kind and the Tenno whose deviltry blent with theirs; and you began to whisper corruption into their ears, weave dark thoughts through the coils of their minds."
Notice how the Warden says "new generation". That is the answer. Dante was one of these Warframes, a member of the first generation who went insane, with only a few being spared, those being him and Kullervo. It is only after Dante's death and long into the Old War did the Tenno show up.
It's interesting because we dont have the "definitive" timeline between the first gen warframes (the conscious bio drones) and the second/current gen ones (the bio drones inert when not opperated by the tenno). There are tales from the Levarian that insinuate they took place during the fall of the Orokin, and others that took place during the Old War, and maybe even before that (With the exception of Styanax, who's tale was more recent). The only question is were the tales of the warframes sullied by the Warframe rebellion, or was it really the fall of the orokin that had their tales fade into obscurity (despite Drusus' best efforts)
Someone will be confused on how i commented before the video came out. This is what we know.
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Nice name time traveler
Mf hit that Protea 4 to comment on a video 💀
man, i thought i would never see a new video from you ever again :D
cant wait to get dante so i can build dante with a greatsword build and dual pistols
Once more into the brink!
This came up suddenly, underrated Lore creator.
Welcome back
I'm posting this in a post Jade Shadows world. I know I may be proven wrong in future updates, but I still think we will find that with the exception of Umbra, all individuality of frames is the result of how transference works. While in a frame we take on their fragmented personality. If this isnt the case, then it really would depart hugely from what's been established.
I think there are frames like Kullervo, the Stalker, and Jade whos personality is so strong that it takes more control than the Tenno. Either once/once in a while, or like the Stalker, always.
so... the void is like a memetic SCP?
One alternate theory ive had on the warframes supposed sentience is the transference bolt difference between umbra and a "normal warframe" Umbra was allowed to "live" with a special bolt while normal warframes where inhibited by theirs shut down and asleep while not in use.
Dante is so awesome.
I can't understand how Dante was a friend to Dureses i just don't get it is just frame controlled by tenno? And if yes then why Dureses couldn't talk with this tenno instead of Dante?
And another question hope someone answer
When all these happened before or after the old war?
Alright I'm officially lost, I had a good streak but I think I no longer understand what's going on
Please please please if you could site your references! Im getting into doing this sort of research, but its so hard, cuz Warframe lore is all so scattered 😭
Skill issue I'd just concuss myself
I swear, for as devastating an enemy as the Sentients were in Warframe's first arc, they never touched the sheer evil *danger* that the Void possesses.
With the Sentients, we always understood that although we stood against them, there was an element of the Sentients' plan that was actually right - humanity are terrible stewards of our environments, and if allowed to expand we will bring ruin to every environment we touch. In Warframe's universe, that's just an unavoidable future given the current state of humanity. Either the Sentients genocided or pacified us, or we would destroy nature for our own personal gain.
The Void, though... It's not just an enemy we can shoot or stab. Fighting the Murmer is literally fighting the tides of an ocean - we can dam the flow, but the water will always be there, waiting to tear through the first crack it finds. For every soul it sucks free of its memories, desires, duties, and identities, it leaves an Angel singing its siren song, calling even more into the abyss. And the worst part... The Void is a tier-1 cognitohazard. Mere knowledge of the Void doesn't just put *you* in danger, it makes the Void more powerful by *making the Void bigger,* creating ex-nihilo existence where previously there was none. And that existence hates you.
I seriously don't know how we're going to beat this enemy, because I don't know if it can ever be legitimately "beaten." The best we can do is sacrifice ourselves like Rell and hold the Void's gaze, locking it into a temporary stasis. But even that won't stop it forever.
I legitimately think we might actually be doomed.
See, I don't think it's that the frames are fully independent, I think their personalities just mix with their operators very heavily during second dream type transference. They're all described as having personality, and acting in specific ways that match their personality. If we consider that the Tenno had little to no sense of their original selves, when they're put into these golems with fragments of who they used to be, they likely simply slipped into filling out those fragments. We've all had dreams where we are someone else, and behave very different from how we normally would. I imagine that's all that's happening with the frames.
Of course this does partly mean that Drusus is right. The operator is sort of giving life to what's left of the frames original self, meaning each frame is it's own distinct individual. Umbras quest somewhat explained how we interact with frames, showing that at least partly we have always been working with what's left of the frames, not just controlling them.
I expect we'll see a lot more of this explored during Arthurs upcoming quest line though.
Chorma was "hijacked" we don't know who did it but it seems DE doesn't want to touch up on the topic of Warframe being hijacked by non tennos
Chroma was hijacked by Hunhow due to being partially made with Sentient technology (his "pelt").
@@sitchreapotere1073 Wasn't Hunhow dormant at that time ? After all he only awakens later in Natah.
@@jankieek8218 Nope, Hunhow is first reactivated/awoken when we send out the all-clear signal by touching the Sentient skull at the end of Stolen Dreams.
@@sitchreapotere1073 then why does the Natah quest keep mentioning him "awakening" if he is already awake. Both him saying "As I awake, so will they." and other characters mentioning that he is in the middle of awakening.
Someone will be confused how i liked theyr comment before the video came out.
And i just wanna say we need more lore.
No one asked
@@wolfey1579 no one asked you to be a negative child but here we are
Shoutout to Drusus for confirming without shadow of a doubt that Albrecht and Loid were an item 🫶