Okay I am impressed you are the first reviewer I've EVER heard that sad "Don't go for the Turbo" for long term reliability! It really bugs me when reviewers do nothing but talk about the top trims and turbo engines, NEVER emphasizing value or longevity in the purchase. Also having watched some folks who actually tried off-roading both the Kona and Seltos, the 7 speed dual-clutch tends to overheat pretty easily; too much clutch engagement, I'd guess. Not that _either_ are any sort of serious off-roader, I would imagine you'd get better results with the IVT than the dual-clutch. Perhaps for a future video it' d be good to have one explaining why Turbo'd engines never last as long as naturally aspirated ones. You could even go into pros/cons of MFI vs GDI and how some have both. While most folks likely don't know or care what all that is and why it matters, they need to understand why they _should_ care about the engine in the car they're about to pay good money for.
I'm glad you appreciate my take! Long-term reliability is important to most people, and I'll always take that into consideration when reviewing any car. Kia and Hyundai are both known for issues with their turbo engines and dual-clutch transmissions, so the base drivetrain is best.
@@carhelpcorner I think it's great that you do because no other reviewers seem to give value to the "long term reliability" factor. I would go so far as to say _no_ turbo'd engine is as reliable as the naturally aspirated versions; just comes down the laws of physics. And it is, sadly, a growing trend today to see more automakers using turbos to meet their corporate emissions targets instead of making better engines. I hope your channel continues to grow and folks looking for car advice discover it.
@@Dakiraun Agreed. Turbo engines tend to be a lot more problematic over the long-haul. I think it's definitely a good idea to make a future video on this topic!
Part of the problem is most reviewers are only given the top end model to review - and most think that more power = better ... normal people have much different needs
@@MrKikoboy Yeah, that really irritates me - reviewers are _always_ showing the top-trim models, which most people never buy (and/or can't afford). Most people by base to mid-level. On the upside though, base and mid-level at least tend to have naturally aspirated engines, so greater chance of long-life.
I own a 2019 Kona - cabin noise is an issue but nobody ever mentions it. I did my own mitigation. Fantastic vehicle with turbo power and Hyundai reliability.
The Kona 1.6 Turbo is pretty nice to drive. I recently tried the new Mazda CX-30 with the turbo engine and if you want power that's the small crossover to have!
The worst feature inflicted on the public is the Electric park brake, this is the "Boeing MCAS" fault built in to most modern new cars, lose your electrics whilst driving and not only do you lose power steering and brakes, you also lose COMPLETE CONTROL of your vehicle, this is a tragedy waiting to happen. This is the "Elephant in the room" no one has noticed yet.
We bought the base level 2021 Kona with the 6 sp trans. Happy so far. Considered Seltos but were warned of problems with their CVT. We had a cvt in a 2011 suzuki sx4 and had no issues.
My wife has the limited and it doesn't have the wireless because for whatever reason the 10 inch infotainment screen doesn't support it but the 8 inch option does...
The 2021 kona has a six speed automatic transmission in lower trims. The 2022 kona is the first to get the CVT. So the 2021 kona and the 2021 seltos do not have the same transmission. Otherwise, the comparison is great and I appreciate someone spending the time to discuss these vehicles a little more thoroughly.
i was just about to post that lol cuz i cannot and will not buy a cvt. had to use a RVR and that transmission is loud, doesnt shift which i get but hate. everytime i went to accelerate it soinded like a lawnmower. no thank you lol
@@blacktomcatz im not sure if canada market is though. when you look up on hyundaicanada.com, the lower end models (2.0l) still come woth a 6 speed auto. so we will see, but also the reason why i plan to jump up to the turbo models with a dct tranny
We bought 2021 Kona 1.6 turbo. I aren't concerned about turbo at all. Turbo been around since 1960's. Turbo is great for fuel, mountain, powered. Definitely happy with 1.6 turbo.
The only issue they have is they need more frequent oil changes. That's it lol. People just don't want to take care of their vehicles like they're supposed to. The 2.0l at 147hp is just too damn slow. The only way it's viable imo would be if they made it a hybrid. Use the hybrid system from the Tuscon. Would gain about 20-30 more HP. Making 160-170ish range. So it would be almost on par with the 1.6t from the earlier models that produced 174HP. (They push out 195 now)
When looking for a suv vehicle I have to look for something that easy for me to transfer into from my wheelchair. Some are low enough ground clearance wise but then you have to factor in seat height.
@@secondace I like it a lot. I'd like it more if didn't have all the active and passive system that are retarded. Hyundai needs competent software engineer.
Sorry to learn that both of these cars have CVT. CVT is the only reason I would even consider leaving Subaru. My understanding is that the Hyundai Santa Fe does not have CVT which is why I'm attracted to it.
Great review, I had a feeling they were similar suv's...I'm leaning towards Seltos for the size...but yes Kona is more budget friendly, making it a hard choice. I had considered the CX-30...but seems smallish.
Thanks - I researched the Kona a bit, but wasn't aware of the Seltos' commonalities to the Kona. Was interested to hear that the Seltos has a little more cargo space, which is important to me, as I would be looking for a vehicle in this size range, or only slightly larger.
The Seltos feels like a slightly updated version of the Kona only a little larger. It's the perfect size for many. Test drive the base engine and if you're fine with it don't even bother with the turbo.
@@adoreslaurel most kids are made in korea...parts come from Korea, that's why ordering parts take so long. Give has asked them to do qa,qc here in us to ensure quality.
As far as the 1.6T DCT drivetrain combination goes, it's way better setup and it's coupled with a multilink rear suspension and AWD. Yes, the engine is scheduled at more frequent oil changes becsuse of the turbo and because it's direct injected it will require chemical valve cleaning to maintain efficiency and performance. The DCT behaves exactly like a manual shift transmission especially at bumper to bumper traffic, which someone who has never driven a manual transmission will be under impression that there's something wrong with it. People need to understand the mechanical setup of this or any vehicle which they buy and drive it accordingly. Which includes letting the engine idle for couple of minutes after a spirited drive alowing the turbo to cool down to preven premature wear on the bearing. My only issu with the 1.6T engine is that it only takes 3.8L of oil when a turbo setup would definitely benefit from having larger oil capacity to keep it running cooler.
@@carhelpcorner If a user doesn't want to keep up with oil changes, they shouldn't be buying a car. That and the very infrequent valve cleaning is essentially all this car needs in terms of extra maintenance lol.
Excellent video. I'm glad I found you. I'm looking to buy a car but i'm not sure which one, I like the seltos, but i'm not sure if it is a good car. Thank God I saw your video about the jeep compass cuz I drove two of them in a dealer recently. I also saw the nissan kicks, kona too and outlander sport.
Can you explain "snow mode" in the Hyundai Venue? How is it different from AWD. I was pretty set on getting the Kona Limited until you mentioned about the engines. I drive 40 miles each way to work daily. But I want AWD and it doesn't come on the Kona SEL
Snow mode basically reduces the sensitivity of the gas pedal which helps prevent slip when digging out of snow. Ultimately it doesn't do very much. Neither snow mode or AWD can replace a set of good winter tires!
Good review. Could you also include the equivalent metric stats to help us in S.I. land. I know I could look it up later, but it would be very useful to have while watching your reviews.
The Seltos/Kona on top of the basic 5yr/60,000 warranty include a 10 yr/100,000 mi powertrain warranty for those that want the turbo and dual-clutch trans option in case the powertrain has problems down the road.
@@onionpie52 Its a heck of a lot more than what Toyota provides with their new cars. I own a 2015 Camry good reliable car but didn't come with power train warranty good until 2025. Just mentioned because those consider the turbo motor have twice as long as most auto manufacturers is all.
On the Seltos it's called an IVT - and yes it is a type of cvt using a chain instead of a belt - at least in Canada - it has "pretend" shift points built into it...
i did have a 2018 kona and really liked it but then 'upgraded' - lol - to a 2020 kia soul recently - really appreciating the extra space (in the soul).
i am looking to buy a new car and kia Selttos is one of my option but i have seen there is a recall for kia Seltos 2021 on engine. so is it still a good vehicle to buy as it didn't have any other recalls in the past.
I made a video covering the Kia/Hyundai engine issues. They are pretty concerning and it is unfortunate that the Seltos is now part of it. th-cam.com/video/tbuUM0FKGfU/w-d-xo.html
Lost credibility on this guy. The Kona has an automatic transmission for the base, and a dual clutch for the turbo. Second video he makes the same mistake
non of them a car with a dtc twin dry gear box is bad idea it will not work for people living in high places...why stoping making old normal gear just for selling parts
As far as I am aware Kia's 10.25" infotainment system still will not allow Android Auto to use the full 10.25" screen,it only allows AA to use 2/3 of the screen.I have a 2020 Kia xceed with the 10.25 screen,just had it updated but still the AA issue prevails.I will never again buy either new Kia or a Hyundai until this issue is fixed.
Okay I am impressed you are the first reviewer I've EVER heard that sad "Don't go for the Turbo" for long term reliability! It really bugs me when reviewers do nothing but talk about the top trims and turbo engines, NEVER emphasizing value or longevity in the purchase. Also having watched some folks who actually tried off-roading both the Kona and Seltos, the 7 speed dual-clutch tends to overheat pretty easily; too much clutch engagement, I'd guess. Not that _either_ are any sort of serious off-roader, I would imagine you'd get better results with the IVT than the dual-clutch.
Perhaps for a future video it' d be good to have one explaining why Turbo'd engines never last as long as naturally aspirated ones. You could even go into pros/cons of MFI vs GDI and how some have both. While most folks likely don't know or care what all that is and why it matters, they need to understand why they _should_ care about the engine in the car they're about to pay good money for.
I'm glad you appreciate my take! Long-term reliability is important to most people, and I'll always take that into consideration when reviewing any car. Kia and Hyundai are both known for issues with their turbo engines and dual-clutch transmissions, so the base drivetrain is best.
@@carhelpcorner I think it's great that you do because no other reviewers seem to give value to the "long term reliability" factor. I would go so far as to say _no_ turbo'd engine is as reliable as the naturally aspirated versions; just comes down the laws of physics. And it is, sadly, a growing trend today to see more automakers using turbos to meet their corporate emissions targets instead of making better engines. I hope your channel continues to grow and folks looking for car advice discover it.
@@Dakiraun Agreed. Turbo engines tend to be a lot more problematic over the long-haul. I think it's definitely a good idea to make a future video on this topic!
Part of the problem is most reviewers are only given the top end model to review - and most think that more power = better ... normal people have much different needs
@@MrKikoboy Yeah, that really irritates me - reviewers are _always_ showing the top-trim models, which most people never buy (and/or can't afford). Most people by base to mid-level. On the upside though, base and mid-level at least tend to have naturally aspirated engines, so greater chance of long-life.
I own a 2019 Kona - cabin noise is an issue but nobody ever mentions it. I did my own mitigation. Fantastic vehicle with turbo power and Hyundai reliability.
The Kona 1.6 Turbo is pretty nice to drive. I recently tried the new Mazda CX-30 with the turbo engine and if you want power that's the small crossover to have!
The worst feature inflicted on the public is the Electric park brake, this is the "Boeing MCAS" fault built in to most modern new cars, lose your electrics whilst driving and not only do you lose power steering and brakes, you also lose COMPLETE CONTROL of your vehicle, this is a tragedy waiting to happen. This is the "Elephant in the room" no one has noticed yet.
We bought the base level 2021 Kona with the 6 sp trans. Happy so far. Considered Seltos but were warned of problems with their CVT. We had a cvt in a 2011 suzuki sx4 and had no issues.
The 2022 Kona looks even better now. And all trims have wireless Android Auto, and Car Play.
My wife has the limited and it doesn't have the wireless because for whatever reason the 10 inch infotainment screen doesn't support it but the 8 inch option does...
The 2021 kona has a six speed automatic transmission in lower trims. The 2022 kona is the first to get the CVT. So the 2021 kona and the 2021 seltos do not have the same transmission. Otherwise, the comparison is great and I appreciate someone spending the time to discuss these vehicles a little more thoroughly.
The Kona looks so cool.
As far as reliability... they are equal
Only the Seltos comes with an optional CVT. Kona is either standard 6-speed auto or 7-speed DCT
True thanks for the correction!
i was just about to post that lol cuz i cannot and will not buy a cvt. had to use a RVR and that transmission is loud, doesnt shift which i get but hate. everytime i went to accelerate it soinded like a lawnmower. no thank you lol
@@garretshaver-phillips5828 Sucks that the Kona now comes with the CVT for 2022.
@@blacktomcatz im not sure if canada market is though. when you look up on hyundaicanada.com, the lower end models (2.0l) still come woth a 6 speed auto. so we will see, but also the reason why i plan to jump up to the turbo models with a dct tranny
and thats the 2022 models
We bought 2021 Kona 1.6 turbo. I aren't concerned about turbo at all. Turbo been around since 1960's. Turbo is great for fuel, mountain, powered. Definitely happy with 1.6 turbo.
The only issue they have is they need more frequent oil changes.
That's it lol.
People just don't want to take care of their vehicles like they're supposed to.
The 2.0l at 147hp is just too damn slow. The only way it's viable imo would be if they made it a hybrid. Use the hybrid system from the Tuscon. Would gain about 20-30 more HP. Making 160-170ish range.
So it would be almost on par with the 1.6t from the earlier models that produced 174HP. (They push out 195 now)
I bought the Seltos S. It’s one step up from the base option. Already have more than 3000 miles on it love it so far IVY(cvt) is super smooth.
We just got a 2021 seltos. One day already and So far so good. We will see in a month from now !!!
Thanks for your review !!!
I'm thinking of getting the 2022 KIA Seltos
Let me know what’s your experience with it. We like ours. Good price too.
@@MrAri1969md Okay I will.
@@MrAri1969md how much did you get it for?
@@sassouusasoo3607 26k
When looking for a suv vehicle I have to look for something that easy for me to transfer into from my wheelchair. Some are low enough ground clearance wise but then you have to factor in seat height.
The smaller size is why we bought the 2021 Kona Luxury.
If the size works then it's an amazing choice. Enjoy your new ride!
Do you like it🤔
@@secondace I like it a lot. I'd like it more if didn't have all the active and passive system that are retarded. Hyundai needs competent software engineer.
@@psewgobind Gotcha
Sorry to learn that both of these cars have CVT. CVT is the only reason I would even consider leaving Subaru. My understanding is that the Hyundai Santa Fe does not have CVT which is why I'm attracted to it.
The kona has 6 and 7 speed automatic options.
Great review, I had a feeling they were similar suv's...I'm leaning towards Seltos for the size...but yes Kona is more budget friendly, making it a hard choice. I had considered the CX-30...but seems smallish.
Thanks - I researched the Kona a bit, but wasn't aware of the Seltos' commonalities to the Kona. Was interested to hear that the Seltos has a little more cargo space, which is important to me, as I would be looking for a vehicle in this size range, or only slightly larger.
The Seltos feels like a slightly updated version of the Kona only a little larger. It's the perfect size for many. Test drive the base engine and if you're fine with it don't even bother with the turbo.
THe Seltos is bigger and cost more. I got the Kona Sel Plus because of the sunroof. It's small but fun to drive.
Thanks for this video. Lots of good advise and info.
Thank you!
That reliability advice backfired….the 2 liter engine is fire prone….the 1.6 liter is safer…😂
Really , My son has a 2017 2 litre with a 6 speed trans, and there has not been any worry like that in 75.000 Km.
@@adoreslaurel there is a recall going around for fire.
@@thisandthat9344 I am down under, maybe it was built in a different country?
@@adoreslaurel most kids are made in korea...parts come from Korea, that's why ordering parts take so long. Give has asked them to do qa,qc here in us to ensure quality.
As far as the 1.6T DCT drivetrain combination goes, it's way better setup and it's coupled with a multilink rear suspension and AWD. Yes, the engine is scheduled at more frequent oil changes becsuse of the turbo and because it's direct injected it will require chemical valve cleaning to maintain efficiency and performance. The DCT behaves exactly like a manual shift transmission especially at bumper to bumper traffic, which someone who has never driven a manual transmission will be under impression that there's something wrong with it. People need to understand the mechanical setup of this or any vehicle which they buy and drive it accordingly. Which includes letting the engine idle for couple of minutes after a spirited drive alowing the turbo to cool down to preven premature wear on the bearing. My only issu with the 1.6T engine is that it only takes 3.8L of oil when a turbo setup would definitely benefit from having larger oil capacity to keep it running cooler.
It is for most of the reasons why the base drivetrain is better for most people. The majority of buyers don't want to be bothered with any of this.
@@carhelpcorner maybe in north America. In Europe it's between the 1.6T diesel and the 1.6T gdi
@@carhelpcorner
If a user doesn't want to keep up with oil changes, they shouldn't be buying a car.
That and the very infrequent valve cleaning is essentially all this car needs in terms of extra maintenance lol.
Excellent video. I'm glad I found you. I'm looking to buy a car but i'm not sure which one, I like the seltos, but i'm not sure if it is a good car. Thank God I saw your video about the jeep compass cuz I drove two of them in a dealer recently. I also saw the nissan kicks, kona too and outlander sport.
Thank you for the honest review.
I have the 2022 sx turbo and when I take it off road I use manual gear mode and I don't have a problem with overheating!
Sx turbo is sweet, 5 yesr 100k warranty in Canada! Don't worry they will repair it if needed. They did with my telluride as it's tyranny failed
The word “value” stands alone and does not need “for money” or even “trade axes”.
This is a very helpful. Thank you.
Would you please do a review on Kia Sportage
Can you explain "snow mode" in the Hyundai Venue? How is it different from AWD. I was pretty set on getting the Kona Limited until you mentioned about the engines. I drive 40 miles each way to work daily. But I want AWD and it doesn't come on the Kona SEL
Snow mode basically reduces the sensitivity of the gas pedal which helps prevent slip when digging out of snow. Ultimately it doesn't do very much. Neither snow mode or AWD can replace a set of good winter tires!
Good review. Could you also include the equivalent metric stats to help us in S.I. land. I know I could look it up later, but it would be very useful to have while watching your reviews.
What would make Kona heavier if they’re mechanically similar and have similar dimensions?
The Seltos/Kona on top of the basic 5yr/60,000 warranty include a 10 yr/100,000 mi powertrain warranty for those that want the turbo and dual-clutch trans option in case the powertrain has problems down the road.
10 years is not much, 2004 Toyota Matrix still going strong never had any issues with engine or drivetrain.
@@onionpie52 Its a heck of a lot more than what Toyota provides with their new cars. I own a 2015 Camry good reliable car but didn't come with power train warranty good until 2025. Just mentioned because those consider the turbo motor have twice as long as most auto manufacturers is all.
Toyota reliability is awesome. HYUNDAI KIA..I would not trust with 10 year warranty.
Dealers give you hell. That’s what I heard about Hyundai/ Kia.
Whats the difference between cvt transmission and dual clutch transmismission?
Hpw would You rate the Hyundai Venue?. Its allmost identical to the Kia Seltos.
Great reviews!
The 2.0 liter engine uses a 6 speed transmission. NOT A CVT!
On the Seltos it's called an IVT - and yes it is a type of cvt using a chain instead of a belt - at least in Canada - it has "pretend" shift points built into it...
I honestly think the Seltos body style is better, besides I need something a little more rugged.
The Kona can't handle country roads🙄
What is the long term reliability of the seltos 2l engine?
Would that be possible to answer? It hasn't really been around long enough.
Kona is much better looking, and I'd much rather have an automatic transmission than a CVT.
I forgot the Kona still uses one. I agree I prefer a conventional 6-speed automatic over a CVT for reliability any day.
This guy is wrong . The 2.0 liter doesn’t use a CVT transmission, it uses a 6 speed automatic transmission. I have one.
@@mikekantor453 Which car are you talking about? The Kona has a conventional transmission, the Kia a CVT.
@@pp312 I’m talking about the Kona.
@@mikekantor453 Thanks. It wasn't at all clear.
When comparing between two things, "better," not "best."
i did have a 2018 kona and really liked it but then 'upgraded' - lol - to a 2020 kia soul recently - really appreciating the extra space (in the soul).
Wow, I would have thought the soul was smaller than the Kona!
Do you have any cons for either car? Looking to get one of the two when prices settle
Souls are the ugliest cars ever created. Wiw
@@sassouusasoo3607exactly my thoughts 😂
i am looking to buy a new car and kia Selttos is one of my option but i have seen there is a recall for kia Seltos 2021 on engine. so is it still a good vehicle to buy as it didn't have any other recalls in the past.
I made a video covering the Kia/Hyundai engine issues. They are pretty concerning and it is unfortunate that the Seltos is now part of it. th-cam.com/video/tbuUM0FKGfU/w-d-xo.html
Lost credibility on this guy. The Kona has an automatic transmission for the base, and a dual clutch for the turbo. Second video he makes the same mistake
Seltos has more ground clearance more space and better mpg
non of them a car with a dtc twin dry gear box is bad idea it will not work for people living in high places...why stoping making old normal gear just for selling parts
Thanks
As far as I am aware Kia's 10.25" infotainment system still will not allow Android Auto to use the full 10.25" screen,it only allows AA to use 2/3 of the screen.I have a 2020 Kia xceed with the 10.25 screen,just had it updated but still the AA issue prevails.I will never again buy either new Kia or a Hyundai until this issue is fixed.
HYUNDAI KONA IS THE BEST!!!!!!!!!
Kona,,that's all...
👍👍👍👌👌👌
can he like this coment
fully respect .but both brand far from quality in face of all brand in the world
and ford is the best