This review is totally wrong Maybe the reviewer is a hater or she got a defective product. My Vader 3 Pro works so fine, in fact it’s better than my $200 dualsense edge for fps gaming on my PC I would have sold the dualsense edge if not for the fact that I still own a PS5. My vader 3 pro quality is top notch
@@willy7968 unfortunately I don't have the equipment to test myself so I'm just taking other people's results and word for it but in theory it makes sense. Polling rate is just to fetch the input data there so it's a hypothetical best case scenario, but if the controller takes 10ms to produce the data then that's for the lack of better terms it's actual real world input delay performance. I believe the V3P is 7-8ms? So it's not like it's bad it's just not 2ms like the polling rate would suggest. Same with Apex 4, it's 1000hz is marketed as 1ms but it's about the same performance as the V3P All that said I love these controllers, the v3p is amazing. Hopefully the Vader 4 pro has improved internals but we'll see. This info is important because it'll hold manufacturers accountable and improve their gamepads performance over time
@@vovazagach1781 mine has held up perfectly fine but I don't have a long term report or anything. However I do use it for hours on end a few times a week
How is it possible for the Xbox Series controller to have only 2 ms average latency, if it's being polled at 8 ms intervals? It should be at least 4 ms on average due to 125 hz polling rate alone (not counting other sources of overhead, so more likely 5+ ms average lag with significant deviation).
Don't take what she said too seriously! I believe she didn't even use the controller, she was just making a video to get views! I have an Xbox controller and a PS5, all of which are defective!
Whats your point ? I have x2 Dual Sense gamepads, white [OG day1] and black, Series X gamepad [OG Day1], Xbox One gamepad, Zeus1 and Zeus2 and they all work fine ZERO issues. I also have Vader 3 Pro and its broken from day1, i got it and had nothing but issues. First the WiFi radio burned out after 2 hours of usage, i purchased 2 dongles and it wont sync to them, so it burned on the gamepad itself. There is no advertised way to calibrate the sticks. My Zeuss2 ALPS sticks got 0.2% and 0.6% error rate, the vader 3 pro "hall" sticks had near 30% error rate. I found a button combo that allows you to calibrate it and now im getting 6%, so ALPS on ZEUSS2 is still miles better. The gamepad feels cheap, it has tons of reedit complaints, its trash and now it went down in price from 100$ to 40$ on aliexpress
I hope you see this I’m thinking about buying this to replace my dualsense edge as I’m moving to PC from PS5 1. How’s d back buttons? Are they comfortable to press 2. Which button do u use to view the map? 3. Is the controller very comfortable to use?
@@willy7968 the controller is just like an Xbox controller. The ergonomics of it is amazing, the rear buttons are easy to reach. I configured them so I don't have to get my right thumb out of my the right Joystick to press none of the YXAB buttons. The triggers stops make the triggers feel like mouse clicks. Right now this controller is my main controller. My second choice is the Victrix Gambit. I also have two Xbox Elite 2, a Scuff Instinct Pro, PS5 Edge, Victrix Playstation BFG, and Victrix Gambit, ThrustMaster ESwap Pro, Gamesir G7 SE, and Gamesir T4. So that give an idea of how good this controller is.
I've only previously had the turtle beach recon & got the Vader 3 pro for the 4 back buttons. I was apprehensive because they're different to the Xbox controller paddles & set horizontally but it's only taken a couple of hours to get used to. Triggers are absolutely amazing. You really can't go wrong with this controller for the money, I've bought another one in case everyone finds out how good these are & they become unavailable lol.
@@Mister_Tedious I was thinking about buying another one for keeps too but I remember there will be Vader 4 Pro in 2025. I got the limited edition, it’s better than my dualsense edge, I’m glad I made the right choice
😂😂 she despise flydigi because of the cheap plastics 😂, have you ever had a scruf?? Or a elite 2 or a Victus??? I have flydigi apex 4 pro, best controller ive ever had, ive had every controller going, im sorry, i dont believe a word you'r saying, your not even showing us how you tested, all your doing is talking
and the best part is that she in 7:00 minutes, mentioned that she left the test results on the description, and you can check by yourself that THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT.
@@gloriyahboregah6384 I got it. The controller is great. I have a few issues though. I'm used to playing fortnite with a ps4 controller so i'm getting used to this xbox style controller. Other than that, everything seems really accurate and faster because now i can actually take walls. I'm guessing it's because of the triggers. Only major issue is the game recognises my controller until i disconnect it. If i reconnect again it doesn't and i'll have to restart the pc again for it to recognise it. But this is only an issue with fortnite because the pc does recognise it no matter what and it still works. Just not in Fortnite. Overall i will recommend for now (but keep in mind, i've only had it for a day)
She is not wrong. The main problem with any FlyDigi controller is their QC. This is purely a gamble. I have 3 controllers from this company. Including this one. And nothing wrong with all those controller. But a friend of mine got the defective one. Feel bad since i the one who recommended to him.
this is a controller for a gambler. This controller is far cheaper than other pro/elite controllers and in 'it best condition', this controller can even outperform all those expensive controllers. Edit: Also this controller is compatible with REWASD. This means you can make all the extra button their own individual button
I received my Vader 3 Pro today and was excited about the quality and his accuracy. For me it is a premium product at an affordable price. I don't plan on using my old Xbox 360 controller any time soon.
Today I found a pearl of content creation in an ocean of low level entertainment. Thank you and your team for the great information and the on point presentation.
I think there is some physics background you will need to catch up to before publishing more videos. It's physically impossible to achive 2ms delay while sending updates to the driver every 8 ms. This means that your measurement must be faulty. 0/10. Maybe it calculates one of the delay components, but deffinitly not total delay. And you didnt specify what does it meassure. SO for now all this meassurements are BULLSHIT. For total delay you should use nvidia LDAP or simiiar device. As you said this device is beta. Its seems reasonable but when i dig into how it works i found some major flaws. So it detects physical button switch with wires conntected to ardruino, and compares it to the actual signal beeing received by the device. But its not the same device. Ardruino only receive the physical shortage of the button. Actual signal goes to the different machine. Hence the meassurements are worthless. It should be send and compared within one device. So both signals should go to ardruino to get any meassurement thats remotly any good. Something is very wrong here but it requires further investigation.
There is no mistake here, even with a polling rate of 125, you can sometimes get results below 8ms. Take a look at these measurements with a more reputable device docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KlRObr3Be4zLch7Zyqg6qCJzGuhyGmXaOIUrpfncXIM/edit#gid=0 The thing is that some signals may have time to "slip" into the polling window at the moment of button pressing. The higher the ping rate, the more of these moments. But even with a low polling rate, a delay of less than 8 ms is possible.
Of course it can. So you are telling me that you randomly measured 125hz device and allways clicked the button near the next data send window? How many meassurements were done? What a lucky woman here. Or cherry picking. Not sure. @@AnnaPunch
Also checked out the google doc u sent. There is no flydigi vader 3 on the list, and xbox controller gets 5-10ms which is reasonable. Also the flydigi vader 2 is only meassured with BLUETOOTH connection at 15ms. Which is good for a bluetooth connection. @@AnnaPunch
Thanks, those looks legit. I just pointed out that your meassurments in the video are faulty which you yourself agreed to by sending these links with more reasonable meassurments. Dont take it personally, keep up with good work and dewveloping your channel. Ill subscribe. I just wanted to help you improve. @@AnnaPunch BTW. Flydigi seems to be high in top 10 with dongle latency. Also the xbox one s controller with so slow pooling rate and so good meassurment at 6ms makes me wonder what kind of trickery microsoft uses in the internals of this. I think it requirers further an investigation by looking at total system delay with an LDAP or similiar device. I guess there is some internal synchronisation of button presses and pooling clock. This would improve apparent delay, but not real one. Its really weird. gotta look into this.
I have no issues with the smell. I cant smell a thing from it. I have no issues with the receiver, HOWEVER, when I use the controller in reWASD, it randomly disconnects. I prefer reWASD bc you can remap the c and z face buttons to keyboard shortcuts. At the time of this writing, you cannot do that in the space station app. I don't use the controller in Bluetooth mode. I have the dongle plugged in at all times, so I cannot comment on that. I've only had my controller for 2 months and I can't comment on stick drift. It usually takes a year of gaming for my controller to get stick drift. I feel like this review is subjective. She may also have a defective controller.
What about centering spring tension, a lot of people saying that it's a serious issue in Vader 3 pro. I'm planning to sell mine while it's still 100% new (never was in use) cause I want to get Vader 4 Pro, but for now it's to overpriced for me.
🤔🤔🤔🤔Only two videos on the channel and this criticism of the FlyDigi gamepad and advertising your own product for testing gamepads. Hmm, I'm thinking about choosing a new gamepad right now, and I read what people write, but this channel also seems suspicious to me. upd: ⚠Attention there is every reason to suspect this channel of bias, unfair competition and promotion of its own product. They tested the gamepad with a device of their own design for advertising purposes, which in itself is questionable
This is an open-source project that is not for sale, so I don't understand your claims that the video is commercial If you had done a little research, you would have realized this yourself. And it's the same with this gamepad, if you look into it, it's not very good Have a nice day!
I can completely verify the connection problem is true. It happened with my right analog stick while playing God of War. I thought it was a problem with my usb multi hub . The gamepad also keep disconnecting while saving preset on the space station
Because my old controller needed retirement I bought this one...overall: You can also buy a Xbox Elite Wireless Controller Series 2. If you buy only the controller it's cheaper. But if you want a case, a loading dock and maybe different stick caps you are somewhere at the price of the Xbox Elite Wireless Controller Series 2. So it's not cheaper. But I also can say something positive about it. It is very configurable. Meaning you can replace any key with something else. Like ABXY with keys from your keyboard or mouse keys or the mouse wheel. Now I said that it "only" supports the 3 standard mouse keys. But hey, that's quite good. That was the selling point for me. I wanted a controller I can redefine all keys to my liking. I'm playing games like ArmA or heavy modded Skyrim. So I need kind of every command key available when wanting to change to controller. I have no need for 5 keys on a controller doing the same thing. Except maybe in fighting games. There are situations where it's helpful. But that did also my old Logitech...wait. I could define keys on that controller...well only in DirectX mode that no one uses anymore. So this controller has something unique that as much I know only the Xbox Elite Wireless Controller Series 2 can do. Scuf as example tells me I'm a stupid asshole when I want to change ABXY commands. And all other does only allow swapping controller commands. About the entire Hall sensor hype...from my experience most people destroy their controllers through other ways before the sticks get damaged. The stick drift problem...my nearly 20 year old Logitech controller had that, too. It was dirt. Opening it, cleaning it and it worked again. After 19 years it didn't help much anymore. Not for long enough. So the theory behind stick drift is true. But I think it never happens as fast as "experts" pretend. How good the controller is I can not say. It feels alright. But honestly. For me it's just a dumb try. If it doesn't work I'm probably done with all those companies. From Microsoft over Scuf to this one towards this video. All expensive controller companies sell bad controllers. Maybe the trick is buying some cheap controller for 20€ to 40€ and when it stops working who cares. You can buy a new one. As I said. The cabled 30€ controller from Logitech, the F310 held nearly 20 years of childhood playing. Now calculate how long I expect that controller to hold.🤣 Oh, and cool vid.
I believe she is filtering results or hiding comments , I swear I just saw this comment not too long ago , how do you start a channel on a negative review?
Sorry but I have to disagree with you. I have 12 pro controllers. From Gamesir T4 Kaleid to Scuf Envision Pro. And the Vader 3 Pro is my main controller
“Do not”. I think everyone and i mean everyone shouldnt say this. Unless the “object” they are reviewing are just obnoxiously bad overall. There should be considerations especially theres gamers out there are either on a budget, who dont really care in terms of quality that much and just wants to experience the “average” and the other one that makes his/her spending much much more worth considering a lot of personal preferences or the type of gamer whos on spending spree where they just throw their debit or credit card onto something cus they just want it.
По моему ты просто решила хайпануть. Создала канал и с видом опытного специалиста рассказываешь тут сказки. Какая твоя квалификация, девочка? Большинство твоих "недостатков" высосаны из пальца.
Thanks for the honest review . My Gamesir X2 BT was bricked after upgrading firmware and i'm looking for a new controller . I guess I'll steer away from all the Chinese controller and stick to Xbox/PS ones instead .
For me the most important feature of this gamepad was the DirectInput mode, which allowed the use of the C, Z and M1-4 buttons as their own, separate buttons, rather than as shortcuts (which to me are 1000% useless). I'm desperately in need of a gamepad with more actual buttons, are there any decent ones that you know of on the market? Many thanks for the review, especially the input lag issues and the spring weakness are pretty much deal breakers for me with this one.
I would like to see a video on other controllers that you have tested already, including the software updates that the company has released to fix the issues.
Sounds like xbox original gamepad marketing a bit to me. Especially responses measured in review differs from other reviews (th-cam.com/video/TpYiUagYPsU/w-d-xo.html) significantly. I agree just with quality of used plastic and sometimes QC from China (caused by non-original vendors and fake products). About hall sensors generally, I using them on my RC TX (chinese Flysky and Taranis are #1 now, while Graupner /Germany established/ after Korean aquisition in 2016 are terrible now). Believe me, I dont want to risk my $1000 planes because of bad quality TX 🙂 The only issue with hall sensors in RC TX - even small dust patricles inside of internal chamber could make a change to magnetic fields (leading to improper values reading), so if sensor case is not sealed perfectly, it is allways a good idea to protect it from dust and other dirt.
My vader 3 pro is dead. It doesn't turn on and when it turns on it doesn't turn off and when it turns off it doesn't turn on it's shit lol The R3 analog stick is buggy, every time I move the R analog stick down the R3 button is pressed, when I press the CZ buttons R3 is also activated, I've tried resetting and recalibrating didn't work. This all started when an update appeared in the flydigi game center program. It's badass
I really like your in-depth reviews ! So cool to know there are many flaws with this controller, and please do some in-depth reviews with another well known brand and comparison like 8bitDo vs Gulikit vs Gamesir, thx
It's the best controller I have ever owned...and I own a lot. So much so I ordered the apex 4 cause if the Vader 3 pro was that good the big brother has to be the shiit
I've had mine for almost a year and it has been perfect. My brother bought one and had problems with the receiver disconnecting sometimes tho i will try the usb hub trick on it
Hello there x. Love it, talk about giving Flydigi a 1,2 punch! Could you do a review of there Apex 4 Elite controller Please? I bought one. Should be arriving soon. I have seen others open that one up, looked really clean. Testing showed excellent results. But like to get your idea and testing. Well I have subscribed to you and I will keep my eyes peeled for another review... Love from Australia x
Thank you for the great video! Well made one, very informative. It was clear that you didn't condemned Chinese products, but the low quality of this product especially. There are the good ones and the "dont waste your money" ones. The irregular production quality in this one sure put it in the second type. liked and subscribed
I bought this controller and it came with faulty face buttons. The mechanical switches are very cheap, and the buttons made a rattling sound before becoming faulty. However, I have bought other controllers from Flydigi (Apex 3 and Direwolf) and those were good.
Nah, sure quality control and 1 bad apple in 100 ok but if anyone can produce good quality for little money then it is china, the price-performance ratio of this controller with microswitch buttons, hall effect thumbsticks, and extra rebindable buttons etc is more than fair and at this price point there is hardly anything comparable on the market!
But what's the alternative? I can't really find anything else. 8bitdo, etc. aren't options as the "extra buttons" on the back can only be set as pointless duplicates of other controller buttons. Flydigi seems to be the only one that lets you set them to custom keys (e.g. keyboard keys).
lol I don’t think she knows what she’s talking about, seen so many better known and trusted actual gamers who say otherwise. Also won gamer havens controller of the year
I would go with 8bitdo any time. However I hate how they removed the Bluetooth Xinput connection from their newer ones. I have a Pro 2 (The one that combines SNES + Playstation). It is superb except that I can not get used to the left stick placement. I would take their switch shaped one any time if it had the same connectivity options as the old ones have. No idea why they removed those options and not left them in as an option. Dongle only PC is not an option for me since I want to take the controller with me and connect to different devices without extra hardware. It seems like the FlyDigi might be better than the KingKong 3 so I took the gamble. In worst case I have to stick with my 8bitdo, use a dongle or use an Xbox Elite.
youre so gorgeous !!! anyway, i also do flydigi keymapping content, i would like to know if you can use gyro while in classic mode using this vader 3 pro?
You're one of the few people giving feedback on internals. I appreciate the thorough nature of the review. Out of curiosity, what controller brands do you personally endorse? I understand FlyDiGi isn't a brand you're able to endorse but are there controller brands you like or suggest?
For the life of me, I can't figure out how to swap the stick inputs at all for this controller. I play green thumb and it's required for me and one of the big draws of having a controller that allows remapping.
2:24 . the site gamepadla now sohws avarage of 6.49 ms to Xbox series controller and vader 3 pro with 8.67ms. So its close . i dont know why it was so low on xbox series before.
Well done I have g7 se and i I can tell hall effect joysticks are not good for fps games they just don't feel right and aiming is hard on hall effect joysticks.
G7 SE litterly has 0.4% avg error on circularity test.... potentiometers have up to 13%. HE sensor can be much more accurate, so idk what you're yapping about.
Este canal esta muy pero muy infravalorado, me gusto mucho los puntos a considerar que otros canales no te dicen, ojalá sigas creciendo más Un saludo desde Perú
hi, what is the latency when the usb connector HUB / cord is added? cheers. thanks for this by the way! i'll have to think whether it is worth putting hall effects in my ps4 controller ha
My last comment here was nice and this video gave me doubts about my Vader 3 Pro order, but now that it has arrived, i gotta say... This is a poor and clickbaity vid. This controller is excellent. It only cost me £40, yet i prefer the V3 Pro over my far more expensive Elite Series 2 controller (4x the cost) and my GuliKit KK3 MAX (2x the cost). When using the high speed 960fps camera on my phone i can see the input latency is at least equal to my Elite Series 2. And yeah the plastic smells cheap if you stick your nose right next to it, and the silver painted parts look cheap too, but it literally IS a cheap controller, and who sniffs controllers anyway? So far the plastics seem pretty strong (better than my KK3, especially with the triggers locked). I have no connection problems at all. But admittedly i've connected the dongle to a USB hub with a 5 meter long cable, which acts as a long antenna, so the V3 Pro works anywhere in my house. It also connects extremely quickly in under one second, unlike the Elite Series 2 or especially the KK3, which both take longer with the same hub. I love how i can just turn on the V3 Pro and immediately start using it without any wait. I also get higher polling rates than shown here (480Hz with dongle and exactly 500Hz with cable). I've updated to a very recent firmware though, so maybe it improves things. The one thing that's left is how will the sticks/buttons hold up over time... So far they're great, it has the best feeling ABXY buttons and D-pad that i've used on a controller in 30+ years. The D-pad is absolutely perfect for fighting games. The sticks aren't as accurate as the KK3 when using Gamepad Tester but they feel better to use because they have lower tension, and perform just as good with actual gameplay. You can't go wrong for this money.
@@GirishNair-uk7vx U missed the best bang for ur buck controller cos of a single review... Been using it since December 2023, it is better than my Dualsense Edge for FPS and PC
I collect hall effect controllers (and controllers in general) so I have just about every one of them that's hit the market up to the Stealth Ultra from Turtle beach. I am waiting on my KK3 Max and Apex 4 to arrive. Without question, the Vader 3 Pro is the best hall effect controller for the price and one of the best controllers period. My stealth ultra is better in certain areas, but the flydigi is better in others. You should buy a USB-A Male to Female cable about 1ft long for the weak wireless adapter that comes with the Flydigi as pointed out in the video above. I would lose connection within like 3ft to my PC without it. With it, I can roam all over my home and not lose connection. The flydigi d-pad is unmatched by any other controller I have used. The stealth ultra have slightly better sticks and rear buttons. If i had to pick between the two, I would go with the Flydigi all day at less than half the price. They both have their flaws, but they are the 2 best hall effect controllers hands down that I own. The flydigi software is also great IMO and the Turtle Beach software is absolute trash. I have to use the controller's LED display to change settings. Thank god they included that display, which is something I previously did not care about and wished they had opted not to include it for a cheaper price. After dealing with their software, though, I'm very glad they did. I wouldn't even recommend anything else unless you just could not pay the $90. If you were looking for a budget controller, I'd say to go with the Flydigi Direwolf 2 since it has the same Sticks/buttons as the Vader 3 minus the rear buttons and trigger stops or the iine Sirius since it has a very similar d-pad to the Flydigi, mechanical face buttons that are also about as good, and solid hall effect sticks, but it's rear buttons are basically unusable they are so bad. But if you don't care about that and are looking for something under the $90 range, that's what I would go with. The wireless polling rate for the Sirius is pretty bad, so you'll want to go wired USB-C on the this one. For wireless with good polling rate, it's pretty much Flydigi Vader 3 Pro, Direwolf 2, and Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra. KK3 Max looks promising, but the lack of software, mechanical face buttons and the D-pad don't excite me much, honestly. If you absolutely have to have xbox and won't use the Brook Wingman, you're only real options are the Stealth Ultra and the Gamesir G7 SE. The G7 SE is not a bad controller at all if you want hall effect for xbox on a budget, but I would put the Sirius above it all day - rear buttons aside.
@@percy4209Hell of a write up. As someone who also comments long winded paragraphs on products every now and then, I think you might have sold me on the Vader 3 Pro. My only real concern is how the overall build quality holds up in comparison to the other hall effect controllers you own; as I've had some really bad luck with controllers crapping the bed on me as short as 3 months in some instances.
@@DoNotPassGO Both of my Vader 3 Pro's still function like the day they were first opened. I can't say the same for other high end brands, like Razer and Turtle Beach, that I've owned. It's kinda funny...most of my Hall Effect controllers still work just fine where as the high end controllers I've bought have always had issues within 6 months. Strange some "cheap" controllers outlasting these controllers that cost double or more. I haven't got my hands on the KK3 Max yet, but compared to every single other hall effect controller I own, which I own just about every other one, I wouldn't ever buy anything other than Flydigi if I had to make the choice. I gave my Direwolf 2 away, since I felt bad having it around with it not getting any use, about 2 weeks before Christmas 2023 and the kid who is using it absolutely loves it.
Bought a Flydigi Apex 2 for about a year ago. Don't buy Chinese controllers. Really bad durability, quality control and inexistent warranty. Had to learn that the hard way.
8bitdo Bluetooth Ultimate (not 2.4G) with Hall joysticks, charging dock, back extra buttons, gyro, 2.4G and bluetooth, Switch support. Solid package and a perfect choice for $50. It can be a little bit "simpler" and "rough" in comparison with Vader 3 Pro, but it's a perfect "workhorse" controller and for it's quality/price ratio of an average $50 controller with nothing but pad and cable in the box.
yes, great controller. Extremely good low latency connection. Really hq joysticks (0.4% average circ. test) and stick drift only at 2%< even after 6 months of heavy and daily usage.
Amazing controller. I'd echo what the great Vcuda says: t4k is most important controller ever. Puts pressure on high end items to perform because it itself performs and has great features. But it's only $35-40 while the others are typically $100-200
I just got one and it's perfect. Use it in wireless or cable mode. Bluetooth is mainly for Switch anyway. It performs admirably. Lowest latency on wireless. And It smells like plastic because it's plastic. You don't feel it unless you stick your nose to it. So if you dislike its smell then don't do it. Considering its affordable price, it deserves it more than all others. I suggest not to slander products you don't know well enough.
first mistake : my "very subjective review" wow what a hit piece , which opposition paid you? compares a 3rd party to a configured main party console controller? what cheap testing program are you using? multiple usbs in usb hubs can suffer from signal interference. has to take reddit input to criticize hall effect sticks? lol here's a thumbsdown , enjoy the algorithm lol.
It seems like she’s going after Flydigi. There needs to be more testing done. I wholeheartedly disagree with her review. You should test this on more than one controller. You can’t judge just one controller.
I want to emphasize that this video is not a review. It's very subjective and only discusses the shortcomings of the gamepad.
It says review multiple times in the description though.... why lie?
Your intelligence is the actual shortcoming.
What about the shortcomings of your impartiality?
Also, you literally put the word "review" in the first line of the description.
She can know the quality of plastic with smell alone, while the rest of us have to taste it. Props to her.
agree tho haha
This review is totally wrong
Maybe the reviewer is a hater or she got a defective product.
My Vader 3 Pro works so fine, in fact it’s better than my $200 dualsense edge for fps gaming on my PC
I would have sold the dualsense edge if not for the fact that I still own a PS5.
My vader 3 pro quality is top notch
Mines pretty good too. But the polling rate is just a cover up, she's right about the response time
@@Broyyyyyy how did u test the response time?
What about centering spring tension, a lot of people saying that it's a serious issue in Vader 3 pro.
@@willy7968 unfortunately I don't have the equipment to test myself so I'm just taking other people's results and word for it but in theory it makes sense. Polling rate is just to fetch the input data there so it's a hypothetical best case scenario, but if the controller takes 10ms to produce the data then that's for the lack of better terms it's actual real world input delay performance.
I believe the V3P is 7-8ms? So it's not like it's bad it's just not 2ms like the polling rate would suggest. Same with Apex 4, it's 1000hz is marketed as 1ms but it's about the same performance as the V3P
All that said I love these controllers, the v3p is amazing. Hopefully the Vader 4 pro has improved internals but we'll see. This info is important because it'll hold manufacturers accountable and improve their gamepads performance over time
@@vovazagach1781 mine has held up perfectly fine but I don't have a long term report or anything. However I do use it for hours on end a few times a week
How is it possible for the Xbox Series controller to have only 2 ms average latency, if it's being polled at 8 ms intervals? It should be at least 4 ms on average due to 125 hz polling rate alone (not counting other sources of overhead, so more likely 5+ ms average lag with significant deviation).
Don't take what she said too seriously!
I believe she didn't even use the controller, she was just making a video to get views!
I have an Xbox controller and a PS5, all of which are defective!
Whats your point ?
I have x2 Dual Sense gamepads, white [OG day1] and black, Series X gamepad [OG Day1], Xbox One gamepad, Zeus1 and Zeus2
and they all work fine ZERO issues.
I also have Vader 3 Pro and its broken from day1, i got it and had nothing but issues.
First the WiFi radio burned out after 2 hours of usage, i purchased 2 dongles and it wont sync to them, so it burned on the gamepad itself.
There is no advertised way to calibrate the sticks.
My Zeuss2 ALPS sticks got 0.2% and 0.6% error rate, the vader 3 pro "hall" sticks had near 30% error rate.
I found a button combo that allows you to calibrate it and now im getting 6%, so ALPS on ZEUSS2 is still miles better.
The gamepad feels cheap, it has tons of reedit complaints, its trash and now it went down in price from 100$ to 40$ on aliexpress
@@NoBodysGamerxbox drift for left , ps5 dpad broken in normal use !
I have this controller, and at the moment I don't have any issues with it playing CoD on my PC, wired or wireless. But this is good to know. Thank you
I hope you see this
I’m thinking about buying this to replace my dualsense edge as I’m moving to PC from PS5
1. How’s d back buttons? Are they comfortable to press
2. Which button do u use to view the map?
3. Is the controller very comfortable to use?
And how is the trigger buttons for semi auto weapons
@@willy7968 the controller is just like an Xbox controller. The ergonomics of it is amazing, the rear buttons are easy to reach. I configured them so I don't have to get my right thumb out of my the right Joystick to press none of the YXAB buttons. The triggers stops make the triggers feel like mouse clicks. Right now this controller is my main controller. My second choice is the Victrix Gambit.
I also have two Xbox Elite 2, a Scuff Instinct Pro, PS5 Edge, Victrix Playstation BFG, and Victrix Gambit, ThrustMaster ESwap Pro, Gamesir G7 SE, and Gamesir T4. So that give an idea of how good this controller is.
I've only previously had the turtle beach recon & got the Vader 3 pro for the 4 back buttons. I was apprehensive because they're different to the Xbox controller paddles & set horizontally but it's only taken a couple of hours to get used to. Triggers are absolutely amazing. You really can't go wrong with this controller for the money, I've bought another one in case everyone finds out how good these are & they become unavailable lol.
@@Mister_Tedious I was thinking about buying another one for keeps too but I remember there will be Vader 4 Pro in 2025.
I got the limited edition, it’s better than my dualsense edge, I’m glad I made the right choice
😂😂 she despise flydigi because of the cheap plastics 😂, have you ever had a scruf?? Or a elite 2 or a Victus??? I have flydigi apex 4 pro, best controller ive ever had, ive had every controller going, im sorry, i dont believe a word you'r saying, your not even showing us how you tested, all your doing is talking
So.... you made a channel for testing one and only one controller and promote your product? I don't know Rick...
The product is completely free, Morty. So don't talk nonsense.
Wow thought this was a Rick roll joke at first ugh God I'm old.
@@garrettbot143i thought it was rick from pawn stars
and the best part is that she in 7:00 minutes, mentioned that she left the test results on the description, and you can check by yourself that THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT.
Well i looked at a lot of other reviews and you’re the only one saying all these issues. Already got one. Hope you’re wrong.
Give an update when u try it out!
@@gloriyahboregah6384 Will do. I get it in a few hours.
@@gloriyahboregah6384 I got it. The controller is great. I have a few issues though. I'm used to playing fortnite with a ps4 controller so i'm getting used to this xbox style controller. Other than that, everything seems really accurate and faster because now i can actually take walls. I'm guessing it's because of the triggers. Only major issue is the game recognises my controller until i disconnect it. If i reconnect again it doesn't and i'll have to restart the pc again for it to recognise it. But this is only an issue with fortnite because the pc does recognise it no matter what and it still works. Just not in Fortnite. Overall i will recommend for now (but keep in mind, i've only had it for a day)
I have one, my unit is 100% perfect. I'm happy that if i see this video before, probably never get one.
She is not wrong. The main problem with any FlyDigi controller is their QC. This is purely a gamble. I have 3 controllers from this company. Including this one. And nothing wrong with all those controller. But a friend of mine got the defective one. Feel bad since i the one who recommended to him.
this is a controller for a gambler. This controller is far cheaper than other pro/elite controllers and in 'it best condition', this controller can even outperform all those expensive controllers.
Edit: Also this controller is compatible with REWASD. This means you can make all the extra button their own individual button
I received my Vader 3 Pro today and was excited about the quality and his accuracy. For me it is a premium product at an affordable price. I don't plan on using my old Xbox 360 controller any time soon.
Today I found a pearl of content creation in an ocean of low level entertainment. Thank you and your team for the great information and the on point presentation.
I think there is some physics background you will need to catch up to before publishing more videos. It's physically impossible to achive 2ms delay while sending updates to the driver every 8 ms. This means that your measurement must be faulty. 0/10. Maybe it calculates one of the delay components, but deffinitly not total delay. And you didnt specify what does it meassure. SO for now all this meassurements are BULLSHIT. For total delay you should use nvidia LDAP or simiiar device.
As you said this device is beta. Its seems reasonable but when i dig into how it works i found some major flaws. So it detects physical button switch with wires conntected to ardruino, and compares it to the actual signal beeing received by the device. But its not the same device. Ardruino only receive the physical shortage of the button. Actual signal goes to the different machine. Hence the meassurements are worthless. It should be send and compared within one device. So both signals should go to ardruino to get any meassurement thats remotly any good.
Something is very wrong here but it requires further investigation.
There is no mistake here, even with a polling rate of 125, you can sometimes get results below 8ms. Take a look at these measurements with a more reputable device docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KlRObr3Be4zLch7Zyqg6qCJzGuhyGmXaOIUrpfncXIM/edit#gid=0
The thing is that some signals may have time to "slip" into the polling window at the moment of button pressing. The higher the ping rate, the more of these moments. But even with a low polling rate, a delay of less than 8 ms is possible.
Of course it can. So you are telling me that you randomly measured 125hz device and allways clicked the button near the next data send window? How many meassurements were done? What a lucky woman here. Or cherry picking. Not sure. @@AnnaPunch
All test results are published here, and they become verified after several runs gamepadla.com/#tag_verified@@SiewcaPozogi
Also checked out the google doc u sent. There is no flydigi vader 3 on the list, and xbox controller gets 5-10ms which is reasonable. Also the flydigi vader 2 is only meassured with BLUETOOTH connection at 15ms. Which is good for a bluetooth connection. @@AnnaPunch
Thanks, those looks legit. I just pointed out that your meassurments in the video are faulty which you yourself agreed to by sending these links with more reasonable meassurments. Dont take it personally, keep up with good work and dewveloping your channel. Ill subscribe. I just wanted to help you improve. @@AnnaPunch
BTW. Flydigi seems to be high in top 10 with dongle latency. Also the xbox one s controller with so slow pooling rate and so good meassurment at 6ms makes me wonder what kind of trickery microsoft uses in the internals of this. I think it requirers further an investigation by looking at total system delay with an LDAP or similiar device. I guess there is some internal synchronisation of button presses and pooling clock. This would improve apparent delay, but not real one. Its really weird. gotta look into this.
I had insane xinput (bluetooth mode) delay out of the box, but it's all gone when you do firmware update, so do that if you have a lot of delay.
I have no issues with the smell. I cant smell a thing from it.
I have no issues with the receiver, HOWEVER, when I use the controller in reWASD, it randomly disconnects. I prefer reWASD bc you can remap the c and z face buttons to keyboard shortcuts. At the time of this writing, you cannot do that in the space station app.
I don't use the controller in Bluetooth mode. I have the dongle plugged in at all times, so I cannot comment on that.
I've only had my controller for 2 months and I can't comment on stick drift. It usually takes a year of gaming for my controller to get stick drift.
I feel like this review is subjective. She may also have a defective controller.
What about centering spring tension, a lot of people saying that it's a serious issue in Vader 3 pro. I'm planning to sell mine while it's still 100% new (never was in use) cause I want to get Vader 4 Pro, but for now it's to overpriced for me.
🤔🤔🤔🤔Only two videos on the channel and this criticism of the FlyDigi gamepad and advertising your own product for testing gamepads. Hmm, I'm thinking about choosing a new gamepad right now, and I read what people write, but this channel also seems suspicious to me.
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⚠Attention there is every reason to suspect this channel of bias, unfair competition and promotion of its own product. They tested the gamepad with a device of their own design for advertising purposes, which in itself is questionable
This is an open-source project that is not for sale, so I don't understand your claims that the video is commercial
If you had done a little research, you would have realized this yourself. And it's the same with this gamepad, if you look into it, it's not very good
Have a nice day!
i own vader 3 pro and apex 3 they don't look bad inside as the one you got. such a shame you got a lemon quality there
There is every reason to suspect this channel of bias and unfair competition
Ive seen multiple videos where people open the controller and you can see the exact same horrible and cheap soldering.@@mortarheadd6473
I can completely verify the connection problem is true. It happened with my right analog stick while playing God of War. I thought it was a problem with my usb multi hub . The gamepad also keep disconnecting while saving preset on the space station
Because my old controller needed retirement I bought this one...overall: You can also buy a Xbox Elite Wireless Controller Series 2.
If you buy only the controller it's cheaper. But if you want a case, a loading dock and maybe different stick caps you are somewhere at the price of the Xbox Elite Wireless Controller Series 2. So it's not cheaper.
But I also can say something positive about it. It is very configurable. Meaning you can replace any key with something else. Like ABXY with keys from your keyboard or mouse keys or the mouse wheel. Now I said that it "only" supports the 3 standard mouse keys. But hey, that's quite good.
That was the selling point for me. I wanted a controller I can redefine all keys to my liking. I'm playing games like ArmA or heavy modded Skyrim. So I need kind of every command key available when wanting to change to controller. I have no need for 5 keys on a controller doing the same thing. Except maybe in fighting games. There are situations where it's helpful. But that did also my old Logitech...wait. I could define keys on that controller...well only in DirectX mode that no one uses anymore.
So this controller has something unique that as much I know only the Xbox Elite Wireless Controller Series 2 can do.
Scuf as example tells me I'm a stupid asshole when I want to change ABXY commands. And all other does only allow swapping controller commands.
About the entire Hall sensor hype...from my experience most people destroy their controllers through other ways before the sticks get damaged.
The stick drift problem...my nearly 20 year old Logitech controller had that, too. It was dirt. Opening it, cleaning it and it worked again. After 19 years it didn't help much anymore. Not for long enough.
So the theory behind stick drift is true. But I think it never happens as fast as "experts" pretend.
How good the controller is I can not say. It feels alright. But honestly. For me it's just a dumb try. If it doesn't work I'm probably done with all those companies. From Microsoft over Scuf to this one towards this video. All expensive controller companies sell bad controllers.
Maybe the trick is buying some cheap controller for 20€ to 40€ and when it stops working who cares. You can buy a new one.
As I said. The cabled 30€ controller from Logitech, the F310 held nearly 20 years of childhood playing. Now calculate how long I expect that controller to hold.🤣
Oh, and cool vid.
164 people don’t like what they see. Get more Vader Pro 3 controllers for more data. It’s a biased review. It screams subjective.
I believe she is filtering results or hiding comments , I swear I just saw this comment not too long ago , how do you start a channel on a negative review?
Been using Flydigi Apex 2 for 2 years, best controller I've ever used. Flydigi quality much bettrr than my crappy razer wolverine
@@maverichz2 years means nothing if you only occasionally use the controller for a few hours max each gaming session
Sorry but I have to disagree with you. I have 12 pro controllers. From Gamesir T4 Kaleid to Scuf Envision Pro. And the Vader 3 Pro is my main controller
i'm very new to the controller space
i was about to buy Vader 3 Pro, is there other choice that has similar feature as vader 3 pro?
i don't think so. maybe I just got lucky, but mine is perfect. for my usage and the price, they are pretty good
@@marley_sr how long have you use it?
@@blorbb5398 i really want the trigger stop feature, but imma try vader 3 pro first, and hopefully i'm lucky to get the good one
@@blorbb5398 iae, testou?
@@yoshin6465 almost two months. still 100% for now
“Do not”. I think everyone and i mean everyone shouldnt say this. Unless the “object” they are reviewing are just obnoxiously bad overall. There should be considerations especially theres gamers out there are either on a budget, who dont really care in terms of quality that much and just wants to experience the “average” and the other one that makes his/her spending much much more worth considering a lot of personal preferences or the type of gamer whos on spending spree where they just throw their debit or credit card onto something cus they just want it.
По моему ты просто решила хайпануть. Создала канал и с видом опытного специалиста рассказываешь тут сказки. Какая твоя квалификация, девочка? Большинство твоих "недостатков" высосаны из пальца.
Literally the best controller I've ever used is the Vader 3 pro. Click bait trash
Thanks for the honest review . My Gamesir X2 BT was bricked after upgrading firmware and i'm looking for a new controller . I guess I'll steer away from all the Chinese controller and stick to Xbox/PS ones instead .
Hey what’s the name of the usb hub you use?
For me the most important feature of this gamepad was the DirectInput mode, which allowed the use of the C, Z and M1-4 buttons as their own, separate buttons, rather than as shortcuts (which to me are 1000% useless). I'm desperately in need of a gamepad with more actual buttons, are there any decent ones that you know of on the market?
Many thanks for the review, especially the input lag issues and the spring weakness are pretty much deal breakers for me with this one.
Mine works great and is better than some of my $300 controllers
Wow, I'm impressed. This video is very well made, I'm surprised this is your first ever video on the channel.
I would like to see a video on other controllers that you have tested already, including the software updates that the company has released to fix the issues.
Sounds like xbox original gamepad marketing a bit to me. Especially responses measured in review differs from other reviews (th-cam.com/video/TpYiUagYPsU/w-d-xo.html) significantly. I agree just with quality of used plastic and sometimes QC from China (caused by non-original vendors and fake products). About hall sensors generally, I using them on my RC TX (chinese Flysky and Taranis are #1 now, while Graupner /Germany established/ after Korean aquisition in 2016 are terrible now). Believe me, I dont want to risk my $1000 planes because of bad quality TX 🙂
The only issue with hall sensors in RC TX - even small dust patricles inside of internal chamber could make a change to magnetic fields (leading to improper values reading), so if sensor case is not sealed perfectly, it is allways a good idea to protect it from dust and other dirt.
Very good video! I wonder if G5 Pro from Machenike is this bad as well.
My vader 3 pro is dead.
It doesn't turn on and when it turns on it doesn't turn off and when it turns off it doesn't turn on it's shit lol
The R3 analog stick is buggy, every time I move the R analog stick down the R3 button is pressed, when I press the CZ buttons R3 is also activated, I've tried resetting and recalibrating didn't work. This all started when an update appeared in the flydigi game center program. It's badass
Thus far, nothing has dethroned the 8 bit do ultimate for me yet.
I really like your in-depth reviews ! So cool to know there are many flaws with this controller, and please do some in-depth reviews with another well known brand and comparison like 8bitDo vs Gulikit vs Gamesir, thx
It's the best controller I have ever owned...and I own a lot. So much so I ordered the apex 4 cause if the Vader 3 pro was that good the big brother has to be the shiit
just to make sure you did callibrate it, right? seems you got a very bad qc one which would definetly be enough of a reason to refund or rma.
definitly calkibration skill issue
Excellent review, new subscriber, the joystick hall effect is very true comparing with the 3 months review of the channel Kaiser do stuff
This is exactly the review I needed to see. Thank you!
I've had mine for almost a year and it has been perfect.
My brother bought one and had problems with the receiver disconnecting sometimes tho i will try the usb hub trick on it
Hello there x. Love it, talk about giving Flydigi a 1,2 punch! Could you do a review of there Apex 4 Elite controller Please? I bought one. Should be arriving soon. I have seen others open that one up, looked really clean. Testing showed excellent results. But like to get your idea and testing. Well I have subscribed to you and I will keep my eyes peeled for another review... Love from Australia x
Great review. Can u recommend any wireless controller?
vader 3 pro handsdown
Russian accent is hard not to recognize
Thank you for the great video! Well made one, very informative. It was clear that you didn't condemned Chinese products, but the low quality of this product especially. There are the good ones and the "dont waste your money" ones. The irregular production quality in this one sure put it in the second type. liked and subscribed
Turned off at unwashed flux, flux is no longer corrosive and is ‘ no clean’ it’s perfectly normal. At worst is only cosmetic.
I bought this controller and it came with faulty face buttons. The mechanical switches are very cheap, and the buttons made a rattling sound before becoming faulty.
However, I have bought other controllers from Flydigi (Apex 3 and Direwolf) and those were good.
Nah, sure quality control and 1 bad apple in 100 ok but if anyone can produce good quality for little money then it is china, the price-performance ratio of this controller with microswitch buttons, hall effect thumbsticks, and extra rebindable buttons etc is more than fair and at this price point there is hardly anything comparable on the market!
Mine is amazing. 5 stars.
tldr qc issue, you may get crap one, but the good ones are insanely good
But what's the alternative? I can't really find anything else. 8bitdo, etc. aren't options as the "extra buttons" on the back can only be set as pointless duplicates of other controller buttons. Flydigi seems to be the only one that lets you set them to custom keys (e.g. keyboard keys).
lol I don’t think she knows what she’s talking about, seen so many better known and trusted actual gamers who say otherwise. Also won gamer havens controller of the year
What is the best controller you can suggest to play on switch?
The nintendo pro controller
I came for the looks, I stayed for the accent.
Can you review Machenike G5 Pro?
Please do Gulikit KingKong 3 Max next. Hopefully, you'll get it soon.
Amazing Review ! can you please review Gamesir G7SE please
do this...for others gamepads..gamesir cyclone pro...thunderobot g60....easysmx x10
Are you kidding? This controller kick arses!
i think you got a bad copy, that it. try the 2024 version
You reviews are so detailed. Can you do a review of the Gamesir controllers? specifically the khalied and the G7 SE?
And snakebyte Gamepad pro x
Hello can you test a nacon revolution 5 pro
I would go with 8bitdo any time. However I hate how they removed the Bluetooth Xinput connection from their newer ones. I have a Pro 2 (The one that combines SNES + Playstation). It is superb except that I can not get used to the left stick placement.
I would take their switch shaped one any time if it had the same connectivity options as the old ones have. No idea why they removed those options and not left them in as an option. Dongle only PC is not an option for me since I want to take the controller with me and connect to different devices without extra hardware.
It seems like the FlyDigi might be better than the KingKong 3 so I took the gamble. In worst case I have to stick with my 8bitdo, use a dongle or use an Xbox Elite.
Perhaps another review should be made given how many comments are suggesting you might have gotten a defective unit.
Well explained 👏
This 100% comes off as a hit piece...
Hmm how bad were the QC?
Gulikit kk3??
youre so gorgeous !!! anyway, i also do flydigi keymapping content, i would like to know if you can use gyro while in classic mode using this vader 3 pro?
Glad I watched this video as I was very close to getting one of these. I hope a more reputable company makes this exact controller one day.
bro 💀 literally the only video that says not to buy, lol, that's why you only have 400 hundred subs
You're one of the few people giving feedback on internals. I appreciate the thorough nature of the review.
Out of curiosity, what controller brands do you personally endorse? I understand FlyDiGi isn't a brand you're able to endorse but are there controller brands you like or suggest?
For the life of me, I can't figure out how to swap the stick inputs at all for this controller. I play green thumb and it's required for me and one of the big draws of having a controller that allows remapping.
I think im cooked chat.
can you please review the fly digi apex 4? thank you
2:24 . the site gamepadla now sohws avarage of 6.49 ms to Xbox series controller and vader 3 pro with 8.67ms. So its close . i dont know why it was so low on xbox series before.
I wanted to buy Vader 3 Pro to play forza. I may give up buying it. is there a model you recommend for forza?
Well done I have g7 se and i I can tell hall effect joysticks are not good for fps games they just don't feel right and aiming is hard on hall effect joysticks.
G7 SE litterly has 0.4% avg error on circularity test.... potentiometers have up to 13%. HE sensor can be much more accurate, so idk what you're yapping about.
Which pro controllers do you recommend ?
I'm looking at the gulikit kk3 max right now. Don't know if it's any good yet though.
Este canal esta muy pero muy infravalorado, me gusto mucho los puntos a considerar que otros canales no te dicen, ojalá sigas creciendo más
Un saludo desde Perú
hi, what is the latency when the usb connector HUB / cord is added? cheers. thanks for this by the way! i'll have to think whether it is worth putting hall effects in my ps4 controller ha
My last comment here was nice and this video gave me doubts about my Vader 3 Pro order, but now that it has arrived, i gotta say... This is a poor and clickbaity vid. This controller is excellent. It only cost me £40, yet i prefer the V3 Pro over my far more expensive Elite Series 2 controller (4x the cost) and my GuliKit KK3 MAX (2x the cost).
When using the high speed 960fps camera on my phone i can see the input latency is at least equal to my Elite Series 2.
And yeah the plastic smells cheap if you stick your nose right next to it, and the silver painted parts look cheap too, but it literally IS a cheap controller, and who sniffs controllers anyway? So far the plastics seem pretty strong (better than my KK3, especially with the triggers locked).
I have no connection problems at all. But admittedly i've connected the dongle to a USB hub with a 5 meter long cable, which acts as a long antenna, so the V3 Pro works anywhere in my house. It also connects extremely quickly in under one second, unlike the Elite Series 2 or especially the KK3, which both take longer with the same hub. I love how i can just turn on the V3 Pro and immediately start using it without any wait.
I also get higher polling rates than shown here (480Hz with dongle and exactly 500Hz with cable). I've updated to a very recent firmware though, so maybe it improves things.
The one thing that's left is how will the sticks/buttons hold up over time... So far they're great, it has the best feeling ABXY buttons and D-pad that i've used on a controller in 30+ years. The D-pad is absolutely perfect for fighting games. The sticks aren't as accurate as the KK3 when using Gamepad Tester but they feel better to use because they have lower tension, and perform just as good with actual gameplay.
You can't go wrong for this money.
I'm really impressed by the in-depth review! Do you have any suggestions on alternative controllers to purchase?
Glad to know you like it
As an alternative, I advise you to buy 8BitDo Ultimate Controller
I was almost going to buy this. Thanks for your review. Is Gulikit king kong pro 2good? 8bitdo is a bit expensive
@@AnnaPunch how come? it's slow and has inferior hall effect sticks?
@@GirishNair-uk7vx U missed the best bang for ur buck controller cos of a single review... Been using it since December 2023, it is better than my Dualsense Edge for FPS and PC
Do you have any other suggestions of gamepads/controllers with similar features? The mechanical d-pad and face buttons mainly
I collect hall effect controllers (and controllers in general) so I have just about every one of them that's hit the market up to the Stealth Ultra from Turtle beach. I am waiting on my KK3 Max and Apex 4 to arrive. Without question, the Vader 3 Pro is the best hall effect controller for the price and one of the best controllers period. My stealth ultra is better in certain areas, but the flydigi is better in others. You should buy a USB-A Male to Female cable about 1ft long for the weak wireless adapter that comes with the Flydigi as pointed out in the video above. I would lose connection within like 3ft to my PC without it. With it, I can roam all over my home and not lose connection.
The flydigi d-pad is unmatched by any other controller I have used. The stealth ultra have slightly better sticks and rear buttons. If i had to pick between the two, I would go with the Flydigi all day at less than half the price. They both have their flaws, but they are the 2 best hall effect controllers hands down that I own. The flydigi software is also great IMO and the Turtle Beach software is absolute trash. I have to use the controller's LED display to change settings. Thank god they included that display, which is something I previously did not care about and wished they had opted not to include it for a cheaper price. After dealing with their software, though, I'm very glad they did.
I wouldn't even recommend anything else unless you just could not pay the $90. If you were looking for a budget controller, I'd say to go with the Flydigi Direwolf 2 since it has the same Sticks/buttons as the Vader 3 minus the rear buttons and trigger stops or the iine Sirius since it has a very similar d-pad to the Flydigi, mechanical face buttons that are also about as good, and solid hall effect sticks, but it's rear buttons are basically unusable they are so bad. But if you don't care about that and are looking for something under the $90 range, that's what I would go with. The wireless polling rate for the Sirius is pretty bad, so you'll want to go wired USB-C on the this one. For wireless with good polling rate, it's pretty much Flydigi Vader 3 Pro, Direwolf 2, and Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra. KK3 Max looks promising, but the lack of software, mechanical face buttons and the D-pad don't excite me much, honestly.
If you absolutely have to have xbox and won't use the Brook Wingman, you're only real options are the Stealth Ultra and the Gamesir G7 SE. The G7 SE is not a bad controller at all if you want hall effect for xbox on a budget, but I would put the Sirius above it all day - rear buttons aside.
@@percy4209 Direworlf 2 doesn't have the same buttons as Vader 3, it uses membrane.
@@percy4209Hell of a write up. As someone who also comments long winded paragraphs on products every now and then, I think you might have sold me on the Vader 3 Pro. My only real concern is how the overall build quality holds up in comparison to the other hall effect controllers you own; as I've had some really bad luck with controllers crapping the bed on me as short as 3 months in some instances.
@@DoNotPassGO Both of my Vader 3 Pro's still function like the day they were first opened. I can't say the same for other high end brands, like Razer and Turtle Beach, that I've owned. It's kinda funny...most of my Hall Effect controllers still work just fine where as the high end controllers I've bought have always had issues within 6 months. Strange some "cheap" controllers outlasting these controllers that cost double or more. I haven't got my hands on the KK3 Max yet, but compared to every single other hall effect controller I own, which I own just about every other one, I wouldn't ever buy anything other than Flydigi if I had to make the choice. I gave my Direwolf 2 away, since I felt bad having it around with it not getting any use, about 2 weeks before Christmas 2023 and the kid who is using it absolutely loves it.
ципсо спок учи английский
может перестанешь притворяться нейтив инглишь спикером? xD
A womans opinion in game assessoreis...
Excellent video! Sure hope to see more of yours
Bought a Flydigi Apex 2 for about a year ago. Don't buy Chinese controllers. Really bad durability, quality control and inexistent warranty. Had to learn that the hard way.
Sony AND Xbox controlers arent bulletproof neither
it's almost as if the Xbox Elite series 2 is perfect...
Great detailed review of the Vader 3 Pro. So with all the negatives, do you recommend Gulikit XX3 MAX over the Vader 3 Pro, or an 8bitdo?
The vader is better ...
Can you recommend me good controller under 50 usd or good controller brand?thank you for your help
8bitdo Bluetooth Ultimate (not 2.4G) with Hall joysticks, charging dock, back extra buttons, gyro, 2.4G and bluetooth, Switch support. Solid package and a perfect choice for $50. It can be a little bit "simpler" and "rough" in comparison with Vader 3 Pro, but it's a perfect "workhorse" controller and for it's quality/price ratio of an average $50 controller with nothing but pad and cable in the box.
@@J0rdan912 tq bro
O controle é foda, podem comprar!
every nice forever !
Do you recommend gamesor t4 kaleid
yes, great controller. Extremely good low latency connection. Really hq joysticks (0.4% average circ. test) and stick drift only at 2%< even after 6 months of heavy and daily usage.
Amazing controller. I'd echo what the great Vcuda says: t4k is most important controller ever. Puts pressure on high end items to perform because it itself performs and has great features. But it's only $35-40 while the others are typically $100-200
trolls.best gamepad.
6:58 what other brands?
8bitDo, microsoft
@@AnnaPunch is gamesir a good brand?
It’s very good. Highly recommended. Good luck with your search.
can you do vader 4 pro
O, It’s in my plan for this month 👌
Good first video
YO, THERE NO TEST IN THE DESCRIPT, YOU LOOK SOOOO LIAR
DISLIKE, 0% OBJECTIVELY
I just got one and it's perfect. Use it in wireless or cable mode. Bluetooth is mainly for Switch anyway. It performs admirably. Lowest latency on wireless. And It smells like plastic because it's plastic. You don't feel it unless you stick your nose to it. So if you dislike its smell then don't do it. Considering its affordable price, it deserves it more than all others.
I suggest not to slander products you don't know well enough.
first mistake : my "very subjective review" wow what a hit piece , which opposition paid you? compares a 3rd party to a configured main party console controller? what cheap testing program are you using? multiple usbs in usb hubs can suffer from signal interference. has to take reddit input to criticize hall effect sticks? lol here's a thumbsdown , enjoy the algorithm lol.
It seems like she’s going after Flydigi. There needs to be more testing done. I wholeheartedly disagree with her review. You should test this on more than one controller. You can’t judge just one controller.