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- I'm Aja Dang and I tried to do the impossible, literally... it was impossible BUT hopefully this video will still help you on your journey towards rent renewal negotiation. Some buildings and homes will offer move in specials but I tried to lower our current rent to help us save some money. This video is all about negotiating a rent renewal, meaning a place you're currently living in. Again, even though I didn't succeed, I still thinks some of the tips suggested by people in this community were very insightful and could help you and your saving money journey.
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I used to work at a Leasing company. It sounds like their policies are exactly the same. I would recommend going to the front office of your building (if you haven’t already). Ask for a leasing consultant. They’re usually nicer than management. Ask them if you can get a lease for the next term, while requesting the same room you have now. Not a renewal, but a new lease. The policy says a renewal can’t have a lower price but whole new contract can have a whole new price. It’s a 10min conversation and they may try to help you finesse (hopefully 😅). Good luck with everything though!
I wish I could emphasize this comment. I really hope she sees and tries this. It’s such a neat idea and a great workaround. I’ve not done it for orienting but I have done similar things.
I did it. I gave my notice. Then just happened to see my apartment during my search for $400 less. So I reapplied. But because they had accepted my move out notice they had to lease it to me at market rate.
But with this method be prepared to actually move.
Aja! Move! - You are going to resent paying for this place the longer you are in it. You have 1 life, millions of other places to live - you are not stuck. You tried - it didn't go your way. I say Move - new chapter around the corner.
I used to work for a greedy apt managing co in LA. THIS IS WHAT YOU DO (if you are not in a current lease): You go to the office IN PERSON with your letter and tell them you are moving out. Put in your 30-day notice with the reason of unfair rate rent compared to your neighbor and adjacent buildings. Give them your new asking price (which should be the same they are asking for new residents - figure out how much that is - or how much your neighbor's rent is). Make sure the MANAGER or SUPERVISOR is the one you talk to, not the leasing agent. You can actually WAIT till the last minute to change your mind, and by law, they can't evict you to give it to a new resident because you have possession of the apartment. Trust me, they DO NOT want another vacancy plus the hassle to get your apartment ready. I've done this. It's not pleasant, that's why they rather just negotiate with you. But don't accept an offer, it's your price or you move out. You can still back out at the end. You don't want to inconvenience someone else that's trying to rent your unit, of course, but this is business. They can offer the new residents a different unit then. If they ask you about plans, where you are moving to etc., don't tell them. Wait for a response. Even if they ask you to let them show your unit to a new resident, say ok. If nothing changes around 5 or 4 days before you "move out", you have the right to cancel your 30-day notice (or even extend it). You HAVE TO tell them you are moving ou thought. I used to negotiate units for a living, trust me, they want a lease signed! Not a vacancy. You can also request that they give you an 18-month lease so you lock in the price. Don't be shy, they need you right now more than you need them. BTW, you can do this also to lower your cable bill, etc. Call the office and tell them you are canceling your service. When they ask why, you say it's too expensive and that's it. They will scramble to give you a better offer before you disconnect etc. You have to be willing to stay firm till the end. If you have any questions, leave me a comment and I'll check it later today. Good luck!
That sounds like to much drama.... id rather take the hint that it’s time to move on.
Sometimes a no is just a redirection.
Wow this is such great advice. I’ve been kicked around at apartment complexes before. I seriously hate living in them. Once I had to remind a lady that she worked for me not the other way around. Smh. I just signed a lease about three months ago. I’ll have to come back to this in a year if I choose to keep leasing! Thank you!
Saving even at least 12K a year is definitely not too much drama. If you knew how everything is priced in every industry, you begin to understand that everything in life is a negotiation. Negotiation does not mean drama, the real drama in life is getting kicked around in life by other people’s rules.
If you can save more than $1000 a month to move in the building next door, can't use the amenities because they are all closed for the foreseeable future...move! Unless you plan on leaving the state in a couple of months it make sens to stay for a couple of months, otherwise think about pleasing your wallet
I 100% would move out. That’s so unfair. They are making no sense at their standpoint. For someone who is very conscious of where you put your money, why give it to a corporation that won’t provide assistance to their loyal residents? They clearly don’t see you as a priority to keep you and for any other problem you have, they won’t care to fix. A lawyer once told me, a company won’t change if you tell them what’s wrong, they’ll only change once you hit their pockets. Take away their revenue and for you that means taking away the rent/business you give them.
The advice you were given was great, but this ultimately sounds like the universe helping to direct you to Texas, if you ask me!
I live in an apartment owned by a large corporation in NYC. By the end of a long negotiation process with the leasing office, we were able to lower the rent for our lease renewal by a significant amount. We 1) told them we had better offers elsewhere, 2) made it sound as if we were really ready to sign a lease elsewhere by giving them a specific date for them to give us their final offer by, and 3) constantly asked for more clarification on their BS reasons for not lowering our rent. We've heard it all from "the market should be back to normal soon as COVID dies down" (don't think so), to "there is high demand right now" (while everyone is moving out).
To anyone going through the same thing, good luck and stay strong!! And if they are not able to meet you on a price, don't be afraid to find a better deal elsewhere.
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This makes me mad. Both of u would have won with $150 less a month than just having u move out and they would have to lease it for $1000 less. CORPORATE GREED, Covid has not taught them anything.
right?
It’s not corporate greed, it’s corporate inflexibility...when you’re dealing with any major company or entity there’s no flexibility because there’s a very strict protocol and no one to override that protocol...when you work with small businesses or private landlords it’s so much easier because you’re talking to someone who actually has power vs a cog in the wheel
Yes, that is very logical. Trying to understand where the complex is coming from, I imagine that perhaps if they lower Aja's rent then they would have to lower all current residents' rent too if asked. That would be a bigger loss. With a new tenant perhaps receiving the first and lasts month's rent plus security deposit sounds more appealing since it would be a chunk on money coming to their pockets right now. Who knows?
Greed and just being nasty. If they know you care - they will not work with you. However, if you are not the best tenant it appears as if they will work with you.
I completely agree. Gym just opened last week and pool was closed for months, I’ve been paying a monthly amenity fee this whole time. They are not using electricity to run the equipment, or cleaning the pool or servicing the exercise equipment. They should have at least reduced the charge. You have inspired me to finally confront them on the fact that they are saving money at my expense during a pandemic.
I like that you uploaded this despite it not working. Negotiating is something women aren’t often taught to do. I appreciate you and your content 👏🏻
i'm pretty sure this is my first ever youtube comment, but i wanted to thank you for the encouragement to try to negotiate your rent! i just moved into my current place a few months ago (literally signed a lease right before covid started), so i wasn't sure how it would go over with my landlord, but i felt like i should ask. ended up knocking off almost 10% of my rent! thank you SO much for your tips!!
Go you, Aja! Those kind of conversations take guts. I envy your perseverance and genuinely hope whatever your heart desire's, you'll receive.
I really love your honesty and how you share your journey. The ups and downs ... thank you for being so open.
Thank you so much for doing this video! It was so interesting and I love seeing a strong woman advocating for what she deserves in a respectful and strategic way! I just had to go through some work negotiations as well as move in owner eviction a year ago and man it is tough and makes you question your self worth and value! Appreciate you sharing your knowledge, learnings and how to approached the conversation and processing the response. Thank you!
Thank you so much for showing the whole story! I'm angry that you didn't get ANY better incentive to stay, but I'm glad to see you try and post the honest results. Sometimes when people show these 'hacks' they only talk about success and it is so hard to feel motivated when you hear about everyone's success getting a great deal while I can't seem to catch a bargain or deal ever. I liked seeing you try, fail, and still be a logical, reasonable human.
At least you tried. Thanks for sharing the story. These corporate owned places simply don’t care bc no on is directly invested in making more effective decisions.
Sis I would move. This made me mad and it’s not even my rent lol
You should move. This is happening in NY city. Apartment buildings Management got too greedy/ not flexible and many people decided to move out of those apartments. There are now a lot empty high-rise apartments. They are begging people to move there and they were forced to lower their prices. Maybe they learned their lessons that it is better to keep the current tenants ...
idk why i knew to negotiate when it came to job offers but never thought to negotiate via things like rent!!!
I'm proud of you for trying Aja! I might try this if I can't move when my lease ends in '21 👌🏽✨
I watched your video and felt inspired to give it a shot, so I used your template and made a few tweaks and sent it off to our management company. With your help and the help of this video I was able to successfully lower our monthly rent by $225!!! Thank you SO much @aja!
Aja, you probably won't see this but I am watching your Debt Free video while paying off the last of my debt. I decided to get serious about getting rid of my debt shortly before seeing your December 2017 video, and I just wanted to say thank you so much for being such a relatable and encouraging figure to help me through this journey, helping me to feel less guilty for getting into debt while still motivating me to get out! Take care!
The face and sounds you made once you sent it I can relate SO MUCH with 🥰🥰🥰
So cool! Confrontation is hard so it’s really cool that you’re sharing these tips. xx
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Hi Aja - Amazing Value as always! This was very informative and useful. I respect how real and authentic You and your content is. I wish you all the best with the apartment decision long-term 💖😊
Wow! I felt mad for you. Completely ridiculous that they can admit that the unit is no longer worth what they’re charging, but won’t budge on lowering it. I’m currently hoping our rent in SF isn’t increased as well because our lease is up in a few weeks. Good luck deciding what your next step is!
Always look forward to your videos ☺️ thank you for providing helpful content!
Wow! This was really informative. If I were in your shoes I would be out of there so quick. Can’t stand to be disrespected like that and have them rub it in that your unit is now worth less but they won’t lower your rent. For shame!
My suggestion is airbnb or month to month lease in Texas upon you guy’s lease being up. That way you can live in Texas with low commitment, move at anytime, and see if you guys like it all while still saving money opposed to being in LA. If you guys want to come back to LA, see if the old apartment complex will give that « new move-in pricing » or go across the street to one of the other complexes that will probably have vacant apartments just like the same as your current building. And even then see if the rates could be reduced based on you guys living in the area prior, paying on-time at other place, etc. Hope I inspired some new ideas for you guys. Good luck ✌🏽.
I feel like Airbnb would be a great option because the place would be furnished so she could stay there for a while to make her mind up on wether or not she likes Houston without having to pay to furnish a whole new place
@@lydiaquandt4988 It might be worth it to get the current place at lower rate for 12 months. Its a great idea and the can test houston out. wondering are their great apts in the no flood zones in houston at reasonable price?...
I don’t rent but when I did I never considered this option. I always just paid the increase. I never thought this was an option. Since I never knew about this option I would have just moved to one of the more reasonably priced units. Houston is looking good.
I agree that they disrespected you and certainly could have lowered your rent. It must not be meant to be. There are so many other apartments with better deals. And you and your boyfriend found some where cheaper in Houston.
Thank you for uploading. Im having to go through this at the moment and it can be stressful
Great video! I was able to lower my rent once through negotiation but I back doored it. I put in my notice to vacate (with no real plan) and they came back ready to negotiate. I guess you could try that if you want to give it another shot but just be ready to vacate if they don’t budge on their last offer.
When you move you need to post reviews of them and tell the story. They should have lowered your rate to what your neighbours pay!
still very helpful sharing your experience despite the outcome. most of us won’t even try to negotiate. good to keep in mind when lease renewals are due.
Wow! That was unexpected. It sucks that building management and pretty much just hide behind “large corporation” name. Thank you for trying to do this and setting a really great example for people who will benefit from this video!
This exact reason is why I hardly ever renewed leases when I was renting. I never had a lot of furniture and stuff so it was never hard for me to move and because most complexes considered my employer a “preferred employer” I never had to pay deposits. Sadly most larger property management companies won’t negotiate with existing residents.
I wish I watched this video earlier because I was also attempting to negotiate with my building on my rate. I went into this thinking it costs zero dollars to ask so why not? To my surprise, they replied the following day saying they don’t negotiate pricing or increase percentages. Not even offering a different unit for less. Nothing. At least your building was willing to have a conversation with you. It’s unfortunate to see and learn how leasing systems work.
This video was informative either way! Thanks!
Had something similar here in NY and managed to negotiate a move in the same building for an apartment with extra bedroom. You have to be...
1) Willing to move out, which would leave them stuck with another apartment to rent (big headache for them given the oversupply).
2) Don’t negotiate over email initially. Much more likely to have success speaking in person and making your case. Be really clear that unless they can do something you’ll be moving out at the 1st opportunity.
Landlords are probably willing to negotiate their rent if you are in a financially struggling. However based on your previous videos, I don't think they are going to give you any kind of break given your income. With that said, you bring up a lot of good points about "comparable rents in the area", so it doesn't hurt to ask !
Aja, maybe this is a sign that you are supposed to move out and start a new chapter..best of luck on your decision
Hey Aja, I’m going through the same thing with my building’s company in west Los Angeles. I do not understand the reasons, with the increasing vacancies, companies are not willing to negotiate to keep good tenants. Given all the valid points you made, it’s truly a slap in the face. 🤦🏻♀️
I think Houston is looking like the clear choice. I think change will be good and it’s something I feel like you will look forward to.
I’m sorry it didn’t turn out as planned but this was an amazing video. You showed what happened and this was well filmed. It was honest the truth and real life. Love this! Btw if you are able to work from home in any location I would move to Texas. I want to do that but my Husband works at LAX and we are forced to stay here lol
BUY MY HOUSE IN LA!!
Also might be interesting if you say "Thank you this is our notice that we are going to be vacating the apartment on X/XX"
Then send a new email saying
"Hi, I hear you'll have a vacancy in apartment XXX starting X/XX. I'd love to lease it from you at the new rate of X,XXX. I can move in immediately and I waive any cleaning etc that you may have to do..."
That would be funny to see what they say.
I got your email! HAHA We don't have a home downpayment right now or else I would've taken you up on your offer.
@@AjaDang darn! would've been a great fit! Good luck!
I’m out surprised they said no. I have friends at Atelier and 825 and they both had their rent increased. So weird because so many places are closing in Dtla. I would definitely move out of LA right now. Politically, the atmosphere there is not the best. You can always move back.
These are important things to practice here. I might retire in Australia soon, so it's going to help also.
Thanks for posting this even though there wasn’t a great outcome.
I appreciate all of your great advice!
I would highly recommend people to try no matter what! I live in San Francisco and was able to negotiate $600 off my monthly rent. My landlord originally wanted me to resign a 12 month lease for the lower rate but I pushed back saying that there were so many people moving out of SF and that there were apartments available with 2 months free rent on the market so I didn’t feel comfortable signing a new lease. In the end, it all worked out so make sure you ask and have some alternative offers in mind aka your leverage :)
I live in a similar complex model (luxury building with hundreds of units) in LA, & this is too common. The rent pricing is super random & ive even been told that it changes DAILY based on the demand. So the exact same unit that I have can be $2300 today & then $2000 tomorrow. There’s no rhyme or reason & it’s so backwards.
Also, they didn’t really give you anything cause legally due to COVID in LA leasing companies are not allowed to raise rent during the pandemic & for a year after. So they tried to tell you they were giving you a deal but really just did what was legally required of them 🙄🙄😪
Like many have said, I too would move out. It would not be worth it to stay in a place where they blatantly admitted lowering rent for the next tenants if I move out. If your goal is to save money for a down payment, maybe living in Houston is worth it. Thank you for the points on negotiating rent for when I move in a couple of months.
At our current apartment complex we have had friends who also live here let their lease end and then just move into another unit in the same building as a "new tenant' and receive the cheaper rent prices and move in deals. Maybe reach out to other renters in your community to see if this is possible? And switch who is the "main tenant" when signing/applying for the new lease agreement?
Move out and back into the same unit at the lower rate?
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Right? That's what I was thinking!
I agree with the majority of comments below. I think you should move out. Your points are all valid to negotiate for a lower rent. I am pissed off for you. Thanks for sharing this knowledge and your experience in negotiating. This will be super helpful for those that are experiencing the same thing as you.
If you are open to it, I would recommend transferring to another unit in your building instead of renewing your lease. Put in your 30/60 day notice and put in an application for a better unit in the building and have the lease start right after your current lease ends. Working in the industry, you can gain a lot (more space, lower rent, maybe higher floor, etc?) and you dont move far (moving within the same building is easy relative to moving completely out) and the thousands you could hypothetically save per year could be worth it.
I would be mad too! I just had a similar situation and am so ready to move after being not able to reduce my rent. BUT I hate moving!!! I live in Houston... and our rent is cheaper but I was told by my leasing agent/friend it’s really hard to lower rent even though I have been here for four years. Basically rent will at best stay the same... some day I will own a home so I don’t have to deal with leasing agents.
The best way to negotiate rent is through a tenant’s union. It takes more work but rental management will be less willing to give in to an individual’s demands than if it was collective of tenants. You can find info on tenants unions or housing work by just googling organizations in your area or state.
Years ago I was living in a building when I noticed they were offering same units for a lesser fee, I asked if they would reduce mine to match:No. I asked if I could move to one of those other units:No. I moved out.
A few of my coworkers tried doing this in NYC & they weren’t really successful so they moved to avoid a rent increase. Turns out their apartments are still on the market at a much lower rate than they were paying. Some actually were able to negotiate when bringing up rates of available apts based on listings in street easy. Hope this works out for you!
Move - seriously save your money and it's their loss! It's your money and you can find a better place either in Houston or as you said, right next door.
*Wow your hair looks absolutely beautiful.*
The disrespect would be enough to make me move. Companies like that, whether we live in their building or work for them for unequal pay, do not deserve our loyalty...
I hope you and boo make a decision you both feel comfortable with!
You’re so cute 💕💕and thankyou for making this video
First of all, MOVE TO HOUSTON! Rent/Housing is incredibly cheap here!
I'm sure you decided to email them because of the COVID situation, but I think it may have gone better if you talk to them in person, or on the phone. Having experience with negotiating rent (because I truly believe the price listed is merely a suggestion 😂), I have always been able to pull some type of deal in person or on the phone, whether that was exactly what I asked or something that would be better than what I had.
I hope that made sense! Love you!
Hey fellow Canadian looking to relocate. May I ask what the rental market is like in Houston? TIA
@@superkavman There's a massive range within Houston. But most places can be anywhere from $600-$2000 depending on whether or not you want to be in the inner loop, which is the most popular.
I would take a look on Zillow. That way, you can see the loop as well as the prices within some popular areas like Montrose, midtown, heights etc.
Good advice, interesting video!
That is literally my expression after sending a risky email.
Thank you so much for this video
I feel moving vlogs coming along
I live in SF and I know the market well, it’s changed that’s true, but landlords need to worry about making money too. They’re getting crushed along with everyone else. Don’t think just because they own property that they have money, they still have a mortgage and operational expenses.
Damn, that sucks. I think in reality them not lowering the rent actually made you move. Life changing moment
I am sorry that it didn’t work out for you. I hope that something else will work for you. Good luck. Watched this video, gave me ideas to ask for lower rent. The manger gave me $20 discount for every month so total of $240 year. Not too bad. Thank you all for the ideas
I tried to negotiate the price of a 2 bedroom apartment outside of Denver. It was a larger company that owned the place and the person working there said that the price of the apartments are like the stock market there, they change week to week. Unfortunately we werent able to negotiate but we were able to keep our eyes and get the lowest price we could at that time.
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We broke our lease to get out of the city, the new place we got had a promotion for a free first month, and it was cheaper. So at the end of the day we actually made money to move to a new place. for a cheaper rent.
This was a great video
Did you at least get a refund for the electric car park charger?
almost didnt want to watch this because i tried and failed. but im glad i watched, sorry you didnt succeed. maybe next time!
I am in the same boat. Currently trying to at least keep my same rate.
Thank you Beautiful Soul... I hope all well work in you all favor...
So much for your landlord valuing YOU as a great tenant. The options and response you got doesn’t make any sense. At the very least wish they would have dropped rent to the comparable unit next to you in fairness.
not related, but where did you get your gray sheets from? lol
Helpful info thanks
We rent a 3bed/2bath townhouse from an individual. He hasn't raised our rent in over 13 years. He values keeping tenants over making a few hundred extra per month. Our appliances are old and carpet should be replaced, but we don't complain because it's worth the cheap cheap rent. Maybe rent a house/townhouse from an individual rather than a corporation?
I had the same thing happen to me in LA... They initially wouldn't lower rent for existing residents, and I countered with open units at the same building. I was on a month by month lease, and requested to terminate my lease. Immediately got a "well, hold on, let me see what we can do." Similar to you, I was insulted by their initial response...like they wanted to call my bluff and weigh out the pain of the move against the premium they were charging me as an existing tenant. I proceeded with cancelling out of spite, but kept getting calls with increasingly good offers (reduced prices for a year long contract, then reduced prices further, then reduced term to six months, etc). Moving sucks, but when there are vacancies across the street for $300+ less a month, what do these management companies think is going to happen?
Wow I can't believe during this time they wouldn't lower your rent at least price match with your neighbor's rent. Good luck to both of you with whatever decision is best.
It's even worse in my neighbourhood (in Canada). If we moved out and into the exact same unit we would be paying at least $350 more each month. There is a maximum % a landlord can increase your rent each year and for the past 5 years they have increased it to the maximum and anytime a tenant moves out of a unit they increase the rent, as well. Our building is very old and not well maintained and has no amenities. If we moved anywhere else we would be paying even more. Pretty rough.
Same in my city in Canada (Montreal). So glad we were able to save up and buy a condo this year or we would still be playing the rent game and losing.
@@AerisCeres We're trying to do the same (saving for a down payment) but it's very discouraging just how much you need for a down payment in our area. Basically everything is out of our price range. Congrats on your condo! That must have been an exciting purchase.
Move to another unit for a month and move back in at a lower rate. Better yet, go with the 1000 dollars less that you already found.
Why didn’t you apply at the other 2 complexes?
Dude bigger owned apartment management places are actually a usually easier to negotiate with. My old roommate’s buildings here in NYC ended up going on a rent strike and banding together, she ended up negotiating $1,000 off.
whhattt??? how many units are in her building?
You could try getting other people in your building together to negotiate a lower rent
it is just so not worth it, especially in DTLA. There is just too much going on in DTLA and homeless are everywhere.. sirens are like every few hours. too high to pay what it is.
I'm so upset for you. I went through something similar before we bought our condo and the people in our leasing office flat out told us they couldn't negotiate. They could only go by the computer software/company pricing formula. It's absolute BS that they couldn't even lower to your neighbor's rate or to the rate that it'll be lowered to if you moved out. Especially because you can't use your amenities because they are broken. They should be reimbursing that to you and the other tenants who pay for that service. At this point I'd move out to one of the units across the street if you're going to stay in LA. You deserve to be treated better and not dictated by a computer formula that doesn't take reality into account.
I wish you luck and strength during this crazy time to figure out the best living situation for you guys
I would move to the one that is $1K less. Especially if they're give you a few months rent free
I asked sprint for a loyalty discount. They said no. I switched to Verizon. I asked Verizon 3 times for a lower rate and they gave me 15 off.
Ugh. Girl I'm sorry! So frustrating
Damn I’ve never in my whole life heard of 8 weeks free rent for new tenants. In Hawaii they usually want 2 months rent security deposit plus current rent . Plus 2 paystubs to prove income and or a bank statement showing you have money and a credit check lol 😂
Hi Beautiful , Love your ideas
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