Why should anyone be blamed for anything? Those who like it are listening (clearly), and those who don't are complaining. That's how the modern pop scene rolls. It's really as simple as that. The mystery is why people who hate it are gasbagging days after release. We can all see the lay of the land.
@@kaylaambriAnd she's done amazing well. First release after YG, exceeded everything their beloved K-poppies have done on TH-cam this year - and more. Did well on Spotify (after the Lalisa release cock-ups). Lloud now knows what needs to be fixed, and what's good. Those who dreamed of a flop are absolutely raging. And responding with hysteria online. Those who simply don't like have already moved on.
And blinks tried to flex that she picked up a pen for the first time in her 8 years career "lisa wrote rockstar"we can tell anyone can write I'm a rockstar and repeat it 40× times for 2 mins, only blinks enjoy this type of music no wonder they're so slow and annoying
blonks cant grasp the idea that writing songs requires multiple people despite the credits leads you to believe. Even self-produce groups have been open about the involvement of multiple people in interviews.
@@kaylaambri How many verses did that song even have? Those “repetitive” songs you’re talking about still have verses and most of them, a bridge. I think Rockstar has one verse from what I could tell. That’s not a good argument.
Literally been saying the song is bad and fans were literally defending it with their lives 😭. Just because the line ‘lisa can you teach Japanese’ has some underlying meaning does not mean it’s going to sound great, in fact it just sounds cringe when hearing I don’t get the hype I’m sorry.
Naa Lisa's Rockstar wasn't what I expected, especially after she's independent and have more control over her music now , Even LALISA was and is way better than than ROCKSTAR , bruh the song was so underwhelming and lyrics omg🤦
Nowadays K-pop stan is all about mass streaming, mass buying, and visuals. Whatever mean necessary to make their favs #1.. Talents is out of the picture.
Maybe it’s their cup of tea that’s why they mass stream in a way of support for the idol they like since 2016 not gonna lie that fandom been build up for many years that’s why they have the capacity to do that ,like I do mass stream kiss of of life it’s just a matter of taste who they support😊 maybe in time they will build great fan bases to stream to their favs like this current generation K-pop is got really big now compared to its predecessors generation so charts competition is common
@@ollcf-canarejoalyssan.5111 Both mass streaming and ad views are pathetic. It skews the real popularity/quality of the songs. It allows it to get extra fake views because other random people start to wonder why it got that many views and just check the video to see what the hell it is.
@@firavun8943 the mass streaming is the problem the cannot be tamed it’s their ego in this current generation but the ad part is normal why ? It’s the company’s investment to promote their song of their group almost all the company’s do it tho yg hybe wb jyp cube sm all of them actually so in my pov it’s fair it’s their investment I think if we’re in mid of 2012 there’s no ad in TH-cam there but if their try put the views as a trophy 🏆 it’s a different story
Probably because it’s a South African dance move and Tyla went viral for it and millions of tik toks were made referencing Tyla while doing the challenge. I don’t see the big deal.
this lisa song is a joke,,,im starting to think lisa needs yg more than yg needs lisa,,,,was pissing myself laughing over all the lisa fanboys calling it song of the year
My ex-boyfriend who is a lisa stan must be simping for her harder when she released this, meanwhile, I'm calling her a bad rapper and plastic Barbie doll because it what she is 🤣
Lisa doesn't need yg she needs teddy and beak beum as a producer beacuse they knows her ability what style suits her till which extinct she can do that's why rose didn't let go of teddy although she will be under blacklabel but she will do her collaboration with Atlantic records which is home to Bruno Mars, Coldplay etc her decision is not bad like teddy knows her well yg song conditions is worser than lisa see there new songs they're still using that old lyrics,style even the rap parts are not even catchy
lowkey blinks dont like lisas new comeback its all delulu lilies, blinks realize how lisa wasnt all that after leaving yg aswell..literally most lackluster song ever, hopefully the other blackpink members dont do the same mistake lisa did
😂You Blonks still here commenting on Lisa. I thought you had all moved on after she directly addressed her solo fanbase. Have some self-respect and go away. 😂Trying to pretend there's some kind of link when it gets clearer by the day that a silent disbandment has happened. Your opinion is even more irrelevant now than it ever was in the past.
Same but this time it's not teddy's fault I knew that time only when they introduced the new producers for babymonster soho or something his past songs were not that good like he have only co produced 2songs for blackpink that is also b side ,in case of bigbang and 2ne1 his work were very mid yg main producer should be removed in case of teddy ya his work were repeatative but the songs were catchy same as rap parts and in case of babymonster there music videos doesn't seem that much synchronised like most of the scenes have similarities with bp
man, at this point my only hope is Jennie and/or Rosé. I hope at least one of them comes through with an interesting project that won’t be one-dimensional. I really want to see ACTUAL different sides to them, like make me go “woah I didn’t know you had it in you”. I really don’t like to compare but BTS’ solo works greatly impressed me, for ex. “Jack in the Box” showing different aspects of J-hope or “Right person, wrong place” by RM being this alternative hip-hop project, with interesting collaborations and different styles. Lisa has all the money in the world as she so pompously and proudly states in “Money”. where did it all go? For a song that’s barely over 2 minutes? with garbage lyrics given the fact that 6(!) people worked on it, Ryan Tedder being among those 😂 at this point you just gotta laugh.
I feel like jennie really is passionate about music. She had writing credits with jisoo on lovesick girls and was the first member to release music after the contract renovation. Although she hasn't released any solos, slow motion is very heartwarming and different from the yg style. She also clearly wants to establish herself further in the music industry since she did the spot! collab
I want to add Sunghoon in the visual curse. Like boy can actually dance and sing, but recently I’ve seen him become a visual member with little to no lines. It makes me mad (keep in mind he use to have lines too). I feel like it’s an insult on that idol’s ability. Imagine training and then be assigned the “visual title”. Like it discredits the work they put into being an idol.
I do agree with you he’s such an incredible dancer and performer but let’s be real he’s vocals are mediocre no one in this group deserves lines other then Heeseung and Jay ☠️
@@mohhhhhhhhgjghvcy I’m not saying he needs more lines than Jay and Heeseung. I don’t know how you got impression from my statement. I only imply that visual members should be acknowledged for their efforts. I used him as an example. Currently, he’s like getting at most 10-15 seconds during title tracks. The only time he gets to shine now is in B-sides, reality is most listeners don’t put that much attention in the other tracks compare to the track. Moreover, his vocal tone adds something to the group or else he wouldn’t have had many lines in the past.
@@s.s.c0110 That isn’t my point. I did not said that you said Sunghoon needs more lines that Jay and Hee, dk how you came to that conclusion either. My point is, that only Heeseung can really sing in the group and Jay is ok. That was literally my point, but ofc, I’m exaggerating, the other members should get lines too. Now for Sunghoon, i also do like his vocal colour but still, the man can’t sing, so he shouldn’t get more lines, and i’m sure it’s better like that. giving him more lines would make him struggle on studio and that will lead to make him unconfident in stage, have you ever thought about it this way?
@@mohhhhhhhhgjghvcy You can have your opinion ofc but to say only Jay and Heeseung deserves lines is a big lie🌚 Edit: I read your other comment so nvm.. but still everyone is good enough to maintain more lines, even if it’s not singing.
Rockstar's instrumental is great but her lyrics? It cringe, I get that she wrote the song but it does feel like she is rushing how she expresses her art and, not taking her time instead and she can't rap fr, I'm not sorry to say this. Even at the start of her career, she can't even rap at all, she was only popular and liked for resembling a Barbie Girl where people dubbed her Asian Barbie or Thai Barbie because of her popular blonde hair bangs that serves that look, and that is all she has going on.
3. Everything was good until the cringe "for-e-e-e-e-ver" dropped... and what was that rap? its like it was cut off mid verse, not to mention ASA only imitates sounds in her rap - "click clack bow", "vroom vroom", "thahthahta", whatever the rap was about, its trash.
@@rikakasumi2002 in terms of delivery Young Posse gang, XG (unmatched), KIOF rappers, BADVILLAIN are good - they have lyrical meaning in their raps and great delivery. even with songs are supposed to be just "fun".. ASA has potential, but why is it not shown properly?? YG could atleast give her decent rap.
@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq Go listen to her rap cover of Godzilla by Eminem, then come back and tell me which 5th Gen idols are doing it better than her. I’ll be waiting.
@@Give_me_a_hammer agree on her being ONE of the best - but if Ahyeon didn't get rap lines, istg ASA would have got another verse where she could deliver. The rap verse in this song seemed like it was cut off. Hopefully there's more in store in the future for BM and not just "hit or miss" songs
#7 In case of Beomgyu & Wonyoung, both doesnt get to showcase their skills even with collabs or main stages... beomgyu doesnt even get lines in his own group songs, wonyoung is treated just as a model by sshp, they dont promote her as an idol.. So how will these idols show their other skills if they dont get opportunity to showcase their skills
I'm going to expect solo from the others, I'm not going to put them all in a sack for one of them or for a song released after not renewing the individual contract 😅 but yes, Rose solos have better lyric
At least babymonster is actually active blackpink has been doing all these solo activies at this point they should just disban cuz it's clear they probably won't do anything as a group I personally liked forever it's a little different from the other songs they put out
For 7, honestly Sullyoon is mainly appreciated with her visuals and her talents. eveyrtime she sings there's always comments like "what happens when you debut an idol who's pretty AND can sing well" or something similar, in fact she's constantly reference as one of nmixx's best vocalists everytime she's mentioned.
thank you for mentioning seonghwa. he’s so so, extremly beautiful. he’s gorgeous. but he’s extremely talented, and can do everything. rap, sing, dance. but he’s only seen for his looks. when people talk about idols with stage presence they don’t even mention him, when his facial expressions are incredible and his face looks as if he’s telling a story. but no one, at all talks about it.
Fact that Beomgyu has produced and wrote multiple songs from txt discography like Maze in the mirror, Thursdays child has far to go , blue spring, just shows how much he is dedicated towards music and craft .. but people just call him visual .. or visual center.. wolf cut boy, there was a time when people made Beomgyus long hair his whole personality even hated on him and unstanned him when he cut his hair .. lika yall are here for music right ?? sad how some idols are just known for being pretty and people make being pretty their whole personality .. and ignore all the sacrifices, and hard work they went through ..
No, let’s not play games and kid ourselves. There were *many* *so* *many* people saying that Blackpink had choices and that they made bad decisions and practically the *entire* *fandom* labeled them what??? Oh right, they were labeled as “h*ters” You people love to blame YG and never listen to those who actually have rational thought and logic. You know? Those people who articulated their entire thought process and explained in great detail how exactly they have choice and responsibility? Let’s not do this. Blackpinks been shown to be just as horrid with their decisions in many ways, but y’all keep blaming YG as if they’re under strict rule to not do anything except what YG says. You all screwed up like always. People said this for years. That’s on you. Don’t insult others intelligence because you guys failed to hold conversations and showed to be actual hypocrites by throwing labels on people with little to no evidence to back up your own words. Lisa was and will always be a gimmick. She’s never authentic to who she is and will only and has only ever shown to want the 15 minutes of fame shock value to be known for what she is. It’s cheap.
Jisoo and Lisa were never really interested in writing music that’s true, but Rose and Jennie always tried to be included in the creative process, like when they flew to LA to meet Ryan Tedder? They co-wrote, co-produced 3/4 songs with him and NONE were included in BORN PINK. Now, I blame Lisa for this comeback and while I liked the MV the lyrics and music were just cheap, BUT that does not mean that all BLACKPINK do not care for their music, it’s the very reason they chose to distance themselves from YG for their solo activities, they could have just stayed, do a comeback every now and be done with it.
@@modellodime honestly, I think jisoo is going to be the least enthusiastic to make music on her own. Atleast Lisa does it for fame, jisoo doesn't seem to have the need or desire to do so. She's got acting contracts and I think she enjoys being an actor more
I believe that YG isn't paradise either we all know why but i agree with you that's why Lisa is my les favourite member of Blackpink. She has to work hard with herself to find who she is...
I feel like YG took a sample from " Feel this moment" by Pitbull. The part before the chorus would literally sound the same as the chorus of FTM, but instead of the high note in the Babymonster song there is weird rap
1. Not only the subpar track, she blocked reactors globally on YT due to copyright. Makes no sense, why block your biggest promoters? Guess she doesn't need them.
@@evap.5121 1) you can't just say period in the middle of a sentence, you're using the phrase wrong. 2) if you think their dances are over sexualized then you're probably new to K-pop because the moves they do are way more tame than the things 2nd gen was doing. 3) The choreography they do does not affect if they win an award or not.
Honestly, I am not a lily, but I really liked rockstar way better than lalisa, also I'd prefer rockstar even over money, it's her best solo so far, her vocals also shined in this group, it's just a bit repetitive and short, but it's a pre-release, and the most cringienst lyric "Lisa can you teach me japanese? I said Hai, Hai (it is definitely the second most catchy part of the song) it is cringy but it somehow has that vibe, and that's what I like, the song is definitely my type, there are a lot of songs out there with literally 0 meaning but they really do well, I think music is more about vibe rather than meaningful lyricw, it depends on the mood. And it's definitely not what I expected but yes it is way better than her previous releases and it is one of the best release of 2024 so far.
Minus the lyrics and that same old "i got money" vibe , rockstar wasnt that bad of a song tbh,it deserved better lyrics. Most of the effort was put into the mv instead of the song
Katseye is proof that Hybe is not ready for managing a global group. Its such a wasted potential because they could bring back western style ggs like Pussycat dolls, little mix etc.
Little mix are average in my opinion. Of course, their vocals are great, but when it comes to songs, most of them don't appeal to people. They don't have many viral songs. And I doubt that Katseye could try to imitate them because of the vocals
Likewise, pussycat dolls have too good vocals. The 2nd generation groups are already closer to being similar to them than Katseye or other global groups. Besides, K-pop stans are now more sensitive to sexy concepts, they would eat them up & criticise all the time
1. Lisa made the MV tell the whole story she wanted to comunicate, but forgot to put that same effort into the lyrics... 2. It was so boring 3. I think the song was a mess, it was all over the place... i don't know, they need better writers for their music 6. What has me tired of Kiss of life is the lack of lines for Haneul... there's really not a single reason for her to always be the one with the least lines
@@lovefloraaa ? I'm not talking about the mv (i understand why she has the least screen time and honestly i think that's the right thing), but the vocal lines... her voice is great
@@Arizzu_98 i agree ❤ she has a beautiful en powerful voice. Just because she has a deeper voice that Belle's it doesn't mean she couldn't get more lines and hit high notes in their own way
I honestly think that people will never be satisfied from blackpink and BabyMonster comebacks ever. They always find something to complain about. I loved baemon's forever but still people are complaining about them copying bp. And I don't know why people always want deep meanings in songs like I sometimes I just want vibe . Yes the lyrics of Rockstar is repetitive but it has vibe. People are literally calling it trash when it's not. I LIKE IT. Sometimes people make me feel bad for liking Rockstar, sheesh and batter up. I like these songs. There is always an audience for every type of music.
Exactly honey. And just because you like it, doesn't mean people have to also like it. And sometimes, the constructive criticism isn't too sweet and the stuff you said about the songs mentioned is the literal reason why I don't like the songs. Rockstar: too repetitive, kinda cringe. Forever: tacky and generic. I think that just because you like something, doesn't mean that others have to also like it.
@@Army_stayy_slayyybecause you people always call the songs generic while listening the same thing from your fav.you dont even give a reason why is a song generic ,the rap part was out of place in forever but the vocals were heavenly .
@@heenadhurwe_ce325 I'm sry but I'll give you why I thought it was generic and tacky. I didn't like the chorus. Everything was fine until the chorus hit. And the rap part seemed like it was cut of. And I didn't like ahyeons rap. I just think that it's a nice step cuz yg is definitely trying to do something different finally and not give bm, BP's rejected songs but I still didn't like the song and cannot force myself to .
@@Army_stayy_slayyy You just said what most westerners think of Kpop or boy/girl groups -tacky and generic, even your faves ... so pick your poison. Also people forget the POP in kpop. Popular music isn't meant to be that deep but it can be.
@@x.Rhymiie.x okay honey. Whatever you wanna think. Cuz you are taking this convo in a direction where it's not supposed to go. And it doesn't even make any goddamn sense!
I stopped stanning BP after DDU-DU DDU-DU, when it became apparent they only had one dimension and the steady stream of flexing songs became too cringe. My biggest gripe with BP was their lack of creative input. Especially when it came to rapping. IMO, cadence and attitude don't make up for not actually writing the lyrics, so Lisa and Jennie are not contenders for best kpop rappers, female or otherwise. While plenty of fans argue they just didn't receive credit, it's actually better they don't have their names credited because of how silly and cringe most BP lyrics are. With that in mind, I will reserve judgement on Lisa's writing ability despite Rockstar being much of the same in terms of tone and cringe. My thought (hope) is that if this is the first time she's had creative freedom to write her own lyrics, then it's not surprising she hasn't found her own voice or developed the skill for writing. Should she have held off on a comeback for another two years while she did some soul searching and developed her writing without YG's influence? idk. Rockstar is pretty bad, but I have more hope for her solo work than I do for BP coming out with something good anytime soon.
I think the problem is not the shaking of butt but rather their hand placement. When I watched the MV of Sticky, that step did reminded me of tyla's water.
I’m saying this not as a blink or a Lisa bias but why does everyone want serious lyrics all the time like i don’t even think she was going for a serious song, just a song you can vibe to but y’all will anything she drops even if it’s the best song of her career y’all will find something to hate for
I agree, and since when did K-Pop stans or at least international stans ever really care for lyrics? Seems like they only care now when it’s Lisa… hmm.
1. I don't know what you all expected... I haven't followed Lisa closely but even if she is interested in other genres than "I have money bitches" she didn't show it. Also... she got her hit's with that brand so why change if it still get's bought and she can dhow off and feel good about herself. I like her workethic and Talent the most in BP but I think she's gonna right that cash cow till it stops making money. 3. I really hope for YG to switch it up with BM because these girls are so vocal and rap talented that I don't want them to be just another product in the chain of YG's style 4. Of course BP earned the most from the group still being signed under YG but for YG it seemed like a matter of life and death. They were loosing their signature artists left and right, the shares dropped and BP's resign was the only hope for them to keep up the standard. And there isn't even the need for anything much to happen, since YG never gave them many comebacks or songs to being with, as part of their infamous slow marketing 5. I hate ad songs as official MV's so goddamn much. I think I hated Coca Cola Zero by New Jeans more than this one though it was kinda less obvious if you just listen to the song 6. Kiss of Life is out here saving us all. They are such a refreshing and talented group. 7. Fr. I've never understood the whole "he is handsome, I like him, he's my bias now" thing. If it's stage presence or dance that you like the most visually and pick a bias based on that then sure, but reducing someone purely on looks when he is not a full time model is ridiculous to me. (But I guess it's because I don't get attracted on looks but on charakter, talent and sometimes presence)
Lisa failed to utilize every resource she got and wasted her contract with rca 😭 she could have just hired a good writer or at the very least a decent one 😂✌️ For me the mv is good the music is good except the lyrics, nobody told her or advised her that the lyrics are super bad?! She needs to hire people who will call her bs and not a yes man/woman. 🙄 she know she can also take lessons in songwriting right? And obviously didn't participate in any of that to improve 💀
I heard that the "Lisa can u teach me japanese" line is actually about the stereotype about asia revolving around Korea and Japan! And it actually makes alot of sense since she promoted Thaï culture in her MV ...im not a big fan of Lisa,but yall are a bunch of hypocrite to critize her but praise many other gg for having "funny lyric, bringing old kpop back w unserious lyrics" Yall always praise then stab another idol for doing the same🌚
if it was illit having the same beat with newjeans, citizens would be blaming and dragging these girls to the ground! but babymonster seems to be an exception! kpop really has double standards!
If Lisa was as talented as she is rumored to be, she didn't need 100 of backup dancers to make her look good. All that auto-tune and lower than medicore cringe rap lyrics make the song pretty bad, in my opinion.
Rockstar was alright IMO but for people to say that BM is copying BP is crazy cause they look and sound nothing like BP just like BP sounds nothing like 2Ne1 people just wanna say they alike and copying cause they still not over the other group only reason…I said what I said🤷🏽♀️
Sometimes people don't care about lyrics they just want to vibe to a song. its like reggaeton, lyrics are stupid, but they make you dance and vibe to it. I know its not the same but I'm trying to say that sometimes you just want a song to vibe with.
1. Agree, like the MV but the song was just “not it”, she said it’s just the beginning so let’s wait, hopefully she won’t do a full album of songs who are a copy and paste of “money” and “rockstar” 3. I didn’t expect YG to do a full 360 on their music but that’s a start. The song is catchy and (prob because I have been listening to Nmixx lately) I don’t mind the change of beat, it’s rich and lasts 3:30 minutes, which is A LOT nowadays lol. I thought I didn’t like the fooo-re-e-e-ever part but it grows on you after a couple of listenings. The MV was finally something different from YG, less indoor scenes, overall more interactions between the members even in non-dancing parts, midnight vibes in contrast with the summer feeling…it was nice 4. BLACKPINK did what a ton of other gg didn’t do, they demanded independency, they avoided what happened to 2NE1 and that was a power move 6. It was nice but short, and the MV seemed like it was filmed in the same spot from different point of views. Overall it gave me NJ vibes; I preferred Midas touch, this was a bit underwhelming
I don’t mind Lisa’s song I actually like it a lot, because I don’t expect from her anything else sometimes we need to take artists at face value. She never strikes me as artsy, crazy creative person and this lane works for her. It showcases her talents and is a formula that’s easy digestible. This goes for the entirety of Blackpink, y‘all expect way too much from them given what they have shown us throughout the years. These girls are not one in a life time artists, they impacable performers and it’s time to let them be. I truly never got why y’all set the bar to unreachable heights for them. It was expected, but cute. And the nonsensical lyrics, are we really expecting namjoon type of writing from Lalisa? Please folks get a grip
This . Lisa was never a writer or lyricist. She never had indepth meaningful songs why should it be different now. Unrealistic expectations are not good. Take her at face value. She's showcasing her skills and what has always worked for her. She is a great dancer and can rap and she did exactly that. Just enjoy her song instead of expecting her to start making songs that aren't mainstream or songs that are meaningful.
1. When i first listened to rockstar, i was so disappointed in lisa. I was somehow disappointed in myself for expecting too much from her. 2. Katseye debut song bored me so much. Listened once and didnt again. 3. When i listened to forever, i definitely remembered as if its your last. That one time BP decided to not release something we're used to getting from them. 4. No comment. 5. No comment 6. I didnt exactly like the melody in Sticky, but i like the small things in that song. The vocals, and the mv won me over. 7. I feel like visuals have to work as hard as the "ugly" idols to be taken seriously. Just like the "ugly" idols who have to do more to be seen, the visuals have to work harder to be seen past their beauty. I've seen this in my home country. Theres an artist who's known for her huge ass, and all people talked about in regards to her was her ass. Took about 5 years for people to start acknowledging her vocals. 8. I stopped taking korean charts and music show wins seriously. 9. I stop seeing a group as rookies when i first get to see their first mature performance. A performance that shows me the group owns the stage. Thats when i stop seeing them as rookies. I dont put a time limit.
My (Long) opinion: This is only directed to people who are unnecessarily rude and hateful. If you believe you are giving constructive criticism, this is not for you. In short, if you don't like certain music, unless it has offensive terms or symbols, just move along and go listen to something you like. Stop ruining people's preferences and making them feel bad for liking it. Longer: Lisa's song Rockstar and BM's song's Forever, I really enjoyed. Some people vibe to a song, some like meanings, some do both depending. I honestly don't get people who vocally hate other people's music taste. I get not everyone's gonna like the same music, but what goal or purpose do you have to be so vocally hateful about it. Usually when i don't like a song, I'm just like "okay, it's not my type" to myself or when someone asks when trying out new music. No matter how mediocre or crap a song is to you, that will never be a fact if someone else thoroughly enjoys it. It is so much easier to go on and find or listen to songs you actually like than spending the extra time to hate on a song you hate. It's a much simpler and peaceful solution than fighting with someone about whose songs are better. There is no right measurement of what a "good" song is, music is subjective. That type of hate is so unnecessary unless the song included offensive terms or symbols. And last note, in no way am I saying you are not allowed to voice your opinion, I just don't get people who do it disrespectfully or say stuff like "your music is crap" when someone is excited to show you a song they like. It doesn't cost a penny to just say "Oh, I'm glad you enjoy it, but it's not my cup of tea." For those who think I'm hurt by someone else's opinion, due to my long opinion: Long "essays" do not equate to being butthurt because I am naturally a person who wants to make sure I am understood and thorough when stating an opinion even if the opinion is on a silly topic.
Rockstar was my all time favorite release of the year. Filming in your home country and historic sites that are well known, the inclusion of LGBTQIA dances and myself as an ACE person I felt the connection. Defeating the stereotypes and keeping your culture close are all things u have respect for the rap wasn’t my cup of tea but vocals and instrumental 100%
The same people who like newjeans monotone song and lisa cringe ass lyrics song , don't have to comment on babymonster's forever cause at least it's a enjoyable song with an addictive chorus as you guys asked for .
I actually like New Jeans's first two EP's. Cool with you, Get up, Attention, Hype Boy are great songs in my opinion. But to me all their discography should have been made as a debut album because the sound doesn't evolve with their latest releases. Like, it would have been around 20 songs for a full album, then a world tour, and after a year a next album which evolves musically. As a Blink, Lisa's songs are just awful - I don't like any of them, they are Ice Spice coded
Both they and their team have been calling it their debut single since it was announced. If this was a b-side track on their debut EP then they wouldn’t have released it by itself or have been giving it this much attention and promo. Also what is that line even supposed to mean considering this is technically their debut.
1. I said this under ur other video on lisa but im worried that she will never be taken serious as an artist cus of songs like this 2. I was disappointed cus as someone who casually watched dream academy they had amazing vocals so i had high expectations 3. I wish they kept this cult like aesthetic for this like they did with sheesh. Plus all i could think about during the MV was I AM by IVE cus of the visuals. I feel like baemon hit a good spot in a concept then pulled away for this. The song itself aint my thing but its okay ig... Kinda forgettable for me 7. kinda hot take: i need more companies to pull a KIOF or a ITZY. I need an album that have the bsides be the members solos. And not trash ones cus give me KIOF quality. It could help so many idols with the visual curse to show off more.
BabyMonster’s Forever has an identity problem. It was all over the place. I was just confused the whole time. Four people were producers on the song. FOUR. I expected better.
I think Lisa doesn't fall far from the YG formula because she was a YG artist. She lost her blaccent for Rockstar, and I thought it was a really good introduction into who Lisa wants to be in the industry. Call me crazy or even a gullible unicorn, but that's just my opinion. I honestly think Rockstar was the best solo release from Blackpink.
Katseye memebers are highly talented and top tier vocalist under hybe so far its just their into song of katseye not actual debut, actual debut is on Aug 16th 'SIS ' with this intro single along with one more single on july
5:19 Oh dear Lord, I'm not excited to see Cola giving Newjeans more advertisement songs. 5:34 Sound like soda advertisment song nr 87. It's hardly ever better. "You can only be who you are" - is one of the exceptions, and primarily, cause it's primarily Batiste's song 6:07 One can't be sure it wasn't..
Lisa was never my favorite due to her solos with Yg, but I was curious to see what she would do independently. There're interesting ideas in the visuals, and it could be more explored in the lyrics, but it ended up being a rehash of her previous works. The only thing I like about it is that the instrumental doesn't make my ears bleed. I just hope the other members don't go in the same direction. I have some hope with jennie since her first solo release was slow motion, which was quite different from yg style
in my opinion forever sounds like a different song when it starts and when it ends, and in this case i dont think its in a good way. the beginning doesnt match the rest of the song at all. its like the producers couldnt decide what type of song they wanted to do and it just ended up messy like 3 songs in one and like the song doesnt have an identity
This is purely pedantic and someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that "all-rounders" were also supposed to be skilled rappers in addition to singers and dancers? (Examples: Ahyeon, Karina, Han)
@@minjunim0 That's just false, and besides, you're conflating the term "ace" with "all-rounder." "Aces" are idols who also excel as producers, songwriters, or another element beyond singing, dancing, and rapping. Also, while I'd say they are the exception and not the rule, there are plenty of idols (Soyeon; Bang Chan, Changbin, and Han; Hongjoong and Mingi) who have numerous writing credits to their name.
@@overthinkingkpop I am not conflating anything if you don’t write your own lyrics don’t call yourself a real rapper! It’s as simple as that and of course there are rappers who write their own lyrics this is why I didn’t say all idols but some
I would call them rookies the first year with constant promotions, not because they know it all but because they would have managed to catch enough about the bases of their profession. Or for their third or fourth comeback. Agree about Woonyoung, the girl is super pretty and a proficient idol, model and MC, I think she has a little pick me air but I think too it comes with the job. And about Lisa... As a rock fan... She is not a rock start a pop or rap one sure but not a rock one. Rock is an actual complex gender of music and till now her releases seems basic to me, more brag than anything and that I associate with rap. But I know nothing.
1. it really really hurt you huh, you still talking about it lmao 2. I agree 3. I said this before and I'll say it again, it doesn't matter what BM do, they are gonna be compared no matter what. 5. The song itself was alright but the MV was Pepsi, pepsi everywhere, It felt like a superbowl half time ad. 8. This charts are just a war of who has the biggest fandom, nobody cares about quality of music
@@NilynneAdeyemi I'm not mad, its an opinion i'm just find it annoying when you talk about one thing in one video and you repeat the same thing in another video, like we get it you dind't like it, but why repeat it again we heard you the first time haha that was my point, if people like or don't like is their opinion idc at all xD
Yg not a likable company but for real!!! They done wonders for blackpink that they made them a wall and unique but now .... they can't find their own shining colours at all and all like rushed just to catch the remaining fame to earn much ❤
All the men have cool lyrics and meaningless lyrics abt cars and money and they're most viewed and famous ,What meaningful song do you want ,her to write abt her problems or something deep ,the world doesn't have many problems to keep putting in songs..do you want to create more problems in the world to write and create more lyrics, !???blackpink all songs were meaningful ,do you want her to do the same!? Its same this way and same the other way .. she's trying something new ,her debut was amazing!!❤🎉🎉
4. BP members are no longer K-pop idol's, they've grown too big individually. They will continue to cater to the west where there's more opportunities for bigger individual deals.
@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dqHang on, when it was announced that IVE would release a song in collaboration with Pepsi titled “Summer Festa”, fans planned a boycott due to PepsiCo‘s ownership of SodaStream. SodaStream is all about making homemade fizzy drinks easy. It's a company that makes machines for adding carbonation to your drinks at home. It started in England but is now based in Israel. Further information from the BDS movement states that: “Soda Steam is actively complicit in Israel’s policy of displacing the indigenous Bedouin-Palestinian citizens of Israel in the Naqab (Negev). SodaStream have a long history of mistreatment of and discrimination against Palestinian workers.”
🤎I'm not a lilly and have never been a blink 🤎I just find it all interesting lisa has always pushed the visual story telling aspect throughout most of Black pinks concepts (jennie and rose have agreed on the topic) , Rockstar to me was a show of that also an acknowledgement by lisa like a "look I'M THE ONE THAT PUSHED THIS QUALITY NOT YG" I find it very odd so many already have full scale dissertations on her success 🤔 it all looks like yall want her to Prove to yall that she was always worthy of bp?? Or that she can stand on her own when she doesn't have to (she's already been doing that in her country legit making money moves she just signed an investment deal on a movie.) At least as a completely removed party THAT'S what your opinion, plus the same opinions being thrown at her from blinks read like to me. Like what could she drop that would stop criticism at her right now? Prob nothing I think lisa knows that all members do so there all focused on getting the vision THEY want regardless of public scrutiny cause theyve BEEN having dealt with that 😂the girls are heading into there 30s FINALLY being on there own, keeping blinks happy or trying to become the saviors of 5 gen kpop was NEVER on either of there agendas there fandom did that all there own and now they seem mad that there own para social expectations they never actually voiced to the girls ARENT being met😂 "she even thanked lilies NOT US BLINKS SPECIFICALLY wow lisa was ALWAYS BAD" that's what the loveliy blinks are currently on about and THAT further reinforces my opinion 😆
Its so funny that they can't blame YG since Lisa has different label now😂😂
tee hee hee.
Why should anyone be blamed for anything? Those who like it are listening (clearly), and those who don't are complaining. That's how the modern pop scene rolls. It's really as simple as that.
The mystery is why people who hate it are gasbagging days after release. We can all see the lay of the land.
@@kaylaambriAnd she's done amazing well. First release after YG, exceeded everything their beloved K-poppies have done on TH-cam this year - and more. Did well on Spotify (after the Lalisa release cock-ups). Lloud now knows what needs to be fixed, and what's good.
Those who dreamed of a flop are absolutely raging. And responding with hysteria online. Those who simply don't like have already moved on.
@@AbbyA-z6jthis
What's even funnier is she is responsible for part of the lyrics and how the music sounds.
And blinks tried to flex that she picked up a pen for the first time in her 8 years career "lisa wrote rockstar"we can tell anyone can write I'm a rockstar and repeat it 40× times for 2 mins, only blinks enjoy this type of music no wonder they're so slow and annoying
blonks cant grasp the idea that writing songs requires multiple people despite the credits leads you to believe. Even self-produce groups have been open about the involvement of multiple people in interviews.
they're blinks after all, what can you say.. being delusional is their nature
You care why?
And only lisa could write "lisa can you teach me japanese i say "hai hai" and think "yeah that's cool i like it"
@@kaylaambri How many verses did that song even have? Those “repetitive” songs you’re talking about still have verses and most of them, a bridge. I think Rockstar has one verse from what I could tell. That’s not a good argument.
Literally been saying the song is bad and fans were literally defending it with their lives 😭. Just because the line ‘lisa can you teach Japanese’ has some underlying meaning does not mean it’s going to sound great, in fact it just sounds cringe when hearing I don’t get the hype I’m sorry.
Fr everytime and they’re like “You don’t understand the meaning of the song she’s a genius!” Like okay not all Asians are the same, what else?
Isnt she thai? Like baby teach us that! 😂
@@aenia Frl😭 and then they automatically accuse you of hating Lisa just bc you point out the nonsensical lyrics
Naa Lisa's Rockstar wasn't what I expected, especially after she's independent and have more control over her music now , Even LALISA was and is way better than than ROCKSTAR , bruh the song was so underwhelming and lyrics omg🤦
Nowadays K-pop stan is all about mass streaming, mass buying, and visuals. Whatever mean necessary to make their favs #1.. Talents is out of the picture.
And good music is out of the picture.
EXACTLY
Maybe it’s their cup of tea that’s why they mass stream in a way of support for the idol they like since 2016 not gonna lie that fandom been build up for many years that’s why they have the capacity to do that ,like I do mass stream kiss of of life it’s just a matter of taste who they support😊 maybe in time they will build great fan bases to stream to their favs like this current generation K-pop is got really big now compared to its predecessors generation so charts competition is common
@@ollcf-canarejoalyssan.5111 Both mass streaming and ad views are pathetic. It skews the real popularity/quality of the songs. It allows it to get extra fake views because other random people start to wonder why it got that many views and just check the video to see what the hell it is.
@@firavun8943 the mass streaming is the problem the cannot be tamed it’s their ego in this current generation but the ad part is normal why ? It’s the company’s investment to promote their song of their group almost all the company’s do it tho yg hybe wb jyp cube sm all of them actually so in my pov it’s fair it’s their investment I think if we’re in mid of 2012 there’s no ad in TH-cam there but if their try put the views as a trophy 🏆 it’s a different story
The fact that kiol is facing "copying tyla" allegations just cuz of the 🍑 shaking step💀
Lesserafim had the same allegations
Probably because it’s a South African dance move and Tyla went viral for it and millions of tik toks were made referencing Tyla while doing the challenge. I don’t see the big deal.
Defo I'm from South Africa but I wasn't even thinking about tyla while listening to sticky.
Exactly. It has been used multiple times and it's a dance step.
They’re not « copying tyla », but tbh it’s super cringy watching KPOP idols attempt Bacardi now that tyla made it popular in the west 😭😭
this lisa song is a joke,,,im starting to think lisa needs yg more than yg needs lisa,,,,was pissing myself laughing over all the lisa fanboys calling it song of the year
My ex-boyfriend who is a lisa stan must be simping for her harder when she released this, meanwhile, I'm calling her a bad rapper and plastic Barbie doll because it what she is 🤣
@@nicatinei hope you know almost all the idols in the industry have got some work done on their faces 💀
@@kaylaambri lisa stans stop being so defensive, lisa wouldnt even look at u
Lisa doesn't need yg she needs teddy and beak beum as a producer beacuse they knows her ability what style suits her till which extinct she can do that's why rose didn't let go of teddy although she will be under blacklabel but she will do her collaboration with Atlantic records which is home to Bruno Mars, Coldplay etc her decision is not bad like teddy knows her well yg song conditions is worser than lisa see there new songs they're still using that old lyrics,style even the rap parts are not even catchy
@@LongLiveRizzlam I do know that and they're ugly asf tbh.
1. ngl.. blinks bragging about LISA's writing credits, what's there to write in that garbage song?
lowkey blinks dont like lisas new comeback its all delulu lilies, blinks realize how lisa wasnt all that after leaving yg aswell..literally most lackluster song ever, hopefully the other blackpink members dont do the same mistake lisa did
😂😂😂. The story of K-pop. Fans pretending their idols are Lennon & McCartney, while they are writing incomprehensible gibberish.
@@jennieunnie the visual was good.. the song is meh
😂You Blonks still here commenting on Lisa. I thought you had all moved on after she directly addressed her solo fanbase. Have some self-respect and go away. 😂Trying to pretend there's some kind of link when it gets clearer by the day that a silent disbandment has happened. Your opinion is even more irrelevant now than it ever was in the past.
@@AbbyA-z6j 😂😂😂
Yg is like that one writer who writes the same stories and only adds small changes here and there.
Same but this time it's not teddy's fault I knew that time only when they introduced the new producers for babymonster soho or something his past songs were not that good like he have only co produced 2songs for blackpink that is also b side ,in case of bigbang and 2ne1 his work were very mid yg main producer should be removed in case of teddy ya his work were repeatative but the songs were catchy same as rap parts and in case of babymonster there music videos doesn't seem that much synchronised like most of the scenes have similarities with bp
It’s okay to change the recipe ATLEAST once
man, at this point my only hope is Jennie and/or Rosé. I hope at least one of them comes through with an interesting project that won’t be one-dimensional. I really want to see ACTUAL different sides to them, like make me go “woah I didn’t know you had it in you”.
I really don’t like to compare but BTS’ solo works greatly impressed me, for ex. “Jack in the Box” showing different aspects of J-hope or “Right person, wrong place” by RM being this alternative hip-hop project, with interesting collaborations and different styles.
Lisa has all the money in the world as she so pompously and proudly states in “Money”. where did it all go? For a song that’s barely over 2 minutes? with garbage lyrics given the fact that 6(!) people worked on it, Ryan Tedder being among those 😂 at this point you just gotta laugh.
I feel like jennie really is passionate about music. She had writing credits with jisoo on lovesick girls and was the first member to release music after the contract renovation. Although she hasn't released any solos, slow motion is very heartwarming and different from the yg style. She also clearly wants to establish herself further in the music industry since she did the spot! collab
2. I actually like Katseye’s song. I do agree it’s incredibly too short. Maybe when their official debut ep comes out we’ll have more to go off of
I'm not surprised at the artistic route of baemon yg gg always carry on a sound of the last group tbh
What does the lisa teach me Japanese? I honestly know what it pertains to 😅
@@JJ-pb1rf judging from your diction you wouldn't get it.
I want to add Sunghoon in the visual curse. Like boy can actually dance and sing, but recently I’ve seen him become a visual member with little to no lines. It makes me mad (keep in mind he use to have lines too). I feel like it’s an insult on that idol’s ability. Imagine training and then be assigned the “visual title”. Like it discredits the work they put into being an idol.
I do agree with you he’s such an incredible dancer and performer but let’s be real he’s vocals are mediocre no one in this group deserves lines other then Heeseung and Jay ☠️
@@mohhhhhhhhgjghvcy I’m not saying he needs more lines than Jay and Heeseung. I don’t know how you got impression from my statement. I only imply that visual members should be acknowledged for their efforts. I used him as an example. Currently, he’s like getting at most 10-15 seconds during title tracks. The only time he gets to shine now is in B-sides, reality is most listeners don’t put that much attention in the other tracks compare to the track. Moreover, his vocal tone adds something to the group or else he wouldn’t have had many lines in the past.
@@s.s.c0110 That isn’t my point. I did not said that you said Sunghoon needs more lines that Jay and Hee, dk how you came to that conclusion either. My point is, that only Heeseung can really sing in the group and Jay is ok. That was literally my point, but ofc, I’m exaggerating, the other members should get lines too.
Now for Sunghoon, i also do like his vocal colour but still, the man can’t sing, so he shouldn’t get more lines, and i’m sure it’s better like that. giving him more lines would make him struggle on studio and that will lead to make him unconfident in stage, have you ever thought about it this way?
he can't sing be serious 😂
@@mohhhhhhhhgjghvcy You can have your opinion ofc but to say only Jay and Heeseung deserves lines is a big lie🌚
Edit: I read your other comment so nvm.. but still everyone is good enough to maintain more lines, even if it’s not singing.
Rockstar's instrumental is great but her lyrics? It cringe, I get that she wrote the song but it does feel like she is rushing how she expresses her art and, not taking her time instead and she can't rap fr, I'm not sorry to say this. Even at the start of her career, she can't even rap at all, she was only popular and liked for resembling a Barbie Girl where people dubbed her Asian Barbie or Thai Barbie because of her popular blonde hair bangs that serves that look, and that is all she has going on.
This is how she was in everyone's attention bang girl ....and I totally agree with you
3. Everything was good until the cringe "for-e-e-e-e-ver" dropped... and what was that rap? its like it was cut off mid verse, not to mention ASA only imitates sounds in her rap - "click clack bow", "vroom vroom", "thahthahta", whatever the rap was about, its trash.
I wish they wouldn’t call it rap tbh. It clearly isnt
@@ArchistYT exactly.. their fans claiming ASA "best rapper of 5th gen" pure BS
@@rikakasumi2002 in terms of delivery Young Posse gang, XG (unmatched), KIOF rappers, BADVILLAIN are good - they have lyrical meaning in their raps and great delivery. even with songs are supposed to be just "fun".. ASA has potential, but why is it not shown properly?? YG could atleast give her decent rap.
@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq Go listen to her rap cover of Godzilla by Eminem, then come back and tell me which 5th Gen idols are doing it better than her. I’ll be waiting.
@@Give_me_a_hammer agree on her being ONE of the best - but if Ahyeon didn't get rap lines, istg ASA would have got another verse where she could deliver. The rap verse in this song seemed like it was cut off. Hopefully there's more in store in the future for BM and not just "hit or miss" songs
Rockstar was ok, but the lyrics were too repetitive. She could have changed the lyrics up a bit
#7 In case of Beomgyu & Wonyoung, both doesnt get to showcase their skills even with collabs or main stages... beomgyu doesnt even get lines in his own group songs, wonyoung is treated just as a model by sshp, they dont promote her as an idol.. So how will these idols show their other skills if they dont get opportunity to showcase their skills
Waitin for rosé's solo now, she'll prove why she is the best soloist of blackpink😩
Said this somewhere and people where on my eyes
@@edwinaquartey2231💀 people dont like facts nowadays
Amen her solos slayed
@@Gojo-ki-poookie tell me about it
I'm going to expect solo from the others, I'm not going to put them all in a sack for one of them or for a song released after not renewing the individual contract 😅 but yes, Rose solos have better lyric
At least babymonster is actually active blackpink has been doing all these solo activies at this point they should just disban cuz it's clear they probably won't do anything as a group I personally liked forever it's a little different from the other songs they put out
For 7, honestly Sullyoon is mainly appreciated with her visuals and her talents.
eveyrtime she sings there's always comments like "what happens when you debut an idol who's pretty AND can sing well" or something similar, in fact she's constantly reference as one of nmixx's best vocalists everytime she's mentioned.
thank you for mentioning seonghwa. he’s so so, extremly beautiful. he’s gorgeous. but he’s extremely talented, and can do everything. rap, sing, dance. but he’s only seen for his looks. when people talk about idols with stage presence they don’t even mention him, when his facial expressions are incredible and his face looks as if he’s telling a story. but no one, at all talks about it.
I love Seonghwa he is so talented i can't choose bias between him San and Jongho.
Fact that Beomgyu has produced and wrote multiple songs from txt discography like Maze in the mirror, Thursdays child has far to go , blue spring, just shows how much he is dedicated towards music and craft .. but people just call him visual .. or visual center.. wolf cut boy, there was a time when people made Beomgyus long hair his whole personality even hated on him and unstanned him when he cut his hair .. lika yall are here for music right ?? sad how some idols are just known for being pretty and people make being pretty their whole personality .. and ignore all the sacrifices, and hard work they went through ..
Lisa literally has nothing but pure LUCK on her side.
Sad but true
Fans are luck???
No, let’s not play games and kid ourselves.
There were *many* *so* *many* people saying that Blackpink had choices and that they made bad decisions and practically the *entire* *fandom* labeled them what???
Oh right, they were labeled as “h*ters”
You people love to blame YG and never listen to those who actually have rational thought and logic.
You know? Those people who articulated their entire thought process and explained in great detail how exactly they have choice and responsibility?
Let’s not do this.
Blackpinks been shown to be just as horrid with their decisions in many ways, but y’all keep blaming YG as if they’re under strict rule to not do anything except what YG says.
You all screwed up like always.
People said this for years. That’s on you.
Don’t insult others intelligence because you guys failed to hold conversations and showed to be actual hypocrites by throwing labels on people with little to no evidence to back up your own words.
Lisa was and will always be a gimmick. She’s never authentic to who she is and will only and has only ever shown to want the 15 minutes of fame shock value to be known for what she is.
It’s cheap.
Jisoo and Lisa were never really interested in writing music that’s true, but Rose and Jennie always tried to be included in the creative process, like when they flew to LA to meet Ryan Tedder? They co-wrote, co-produced 3/4 songs with him and NONE were included in BORN PINK. Now, I blame Lisa for this comeback and while I liked the MV the lyrics and music were just cheap, BUT that does not mean that all BLACKPINK do not care for their music, it’s the very reason they chose to distance themselves from YG for their solo activities, they could have just stayed, do a comeback every now and be done with it.
Thank you for this 😮
@@modellodime honestly, I think jisoo is going to be the least enthusiastic to make music on her own. Atleast Lisa does it for fame, jisoo doesn't seem to have the need or desire to do so. She's got acting contracts and I think she enjoys being an actor more
@@smoothies-hz9fx yeah I think so too
I believe that YG isn't paradise either we all know why but i agree with you that's why Lisa is my les favourite member of Blackpink. She has to work hard with herself to find who she is...
3: The song FOREVER sounds like the dance break of HYLT.
It's incredible the whole song sounds like that 😂.Come on it's totally different.
I feel like YG took a sample from " Feel this moment" by Pitbull. The part before the chorus would literally sound the same as the chorus of FTM, but instead of the high note in the Babymonster song there is weird rap
@@betxengi5388 Yg is not the only one who composed the song and different samples were used.I like it and I can't wait to hear their album
1. Not only the subpar track, she blocked reactors globally on YT due to copyright. Makes no sense, why block your biggest promoters? Guess she doesn't need them.
we need SISTAR's summer hits back
Ever since we stop getting their summer hits we been in shambles 😔😔😔
6:25 kiss of life STICKY was so good, let's hope they get their first win💗💗
they got their first win in midas touch
@@peaceandjoy8947 Midas Touch sadly didn't get any wins. Let's hope Sticky can tho!
they are good but their dances are overly seggsualized. period. The make me uncomfortable.
@@evap.5121
1) you can't just say period in the middle of a sentence, you're using the phrase wrong.
2) if you think their dances are over sexualized then you're probably new to K-pop because the moves they do are way more tame than the things 2nd gen was doing.
3) The choreography they do does not affect if they win an award or not.
@@mooncookie012ate.
Honestly, I am not a lily, but I really liked rockstar way better than lalisa, also I'd prefer rockstar even over money, it's her best solo so far, her vocals also shined in this group, it's just a bit repetitive and short, but it's a pre-release, and the most cringienst lyric "Lisa can you teach me japanese? I said Hai, Hai (it is definitely the second most catchy part of the song) it is cringy but it somehow has that vibe, and that's what I like, the song is definitely my type, there are a lot of songs out there with literally 0 meaning but they really do well, I think music is more about vibe rather than meaningful lyricw, it depends on the mood. And it's definitely not what I expected but yes it is way better than her previous releases and it is one of the best release of 2024 so far.
Minus the lyrics and that same old "i got money" vibe , rockstar wasnt that bad of a song tbh,it deserved better lyrics. Most of the effort was put into the mv instead of the song
Katseye is proof that Hybe is not ready for managing a global group. Its such a wasted potential because they could bring back western style ggs like Pussycat dolls, little mix etc.
I honestly thought Katseye is like a crossbreed between little mix and fifth harmony
Isnt kpop american music portrayed by asians. Acting like something they're not. Its a whole gimmick so why not add to it 😂
They sound a bit western in this song, or at least the lyrics reflect that. Maybe they'll release something better
Little mix are average in my opinion. Of course, their vocals are great, but when it comes to songs, most of them don't appeal to people. They don't have many viral songs. And I doubt that Katseye could try to imitate them because of the vocals
Likewise, pussycat dolls have too good vocals. The 2nd generation groups are already closer to being similar to them than Katseye or other global groups. Besides, K-pop stans are now more sensitive to sexy concepts, they would eat them up & criticise all the time
1. Lisa made the MV tell the whole story she wanted to comunicate, but forgot to put that same effort into the lyrics...
2. It was so boring
3. I think the song was a mess, it was all over the place... i don't know, they need better writers for their music
6. What has me tired of Kiss of life is the lack of lines for Haneul... there's really not a single reason for her to always be the one with the least lines
You would know why hanuel got least lines, she isn't sexy so she doesn't fit that type of concept
@@lovefloraaa ? I'm not talking about the mv (i understand why she has the least screen time and honestly i think that's the right thing), but the vocal lines... her voice is great
@@Arizzu_98 oh
@@Arizzu_98 i agree ❤ she has a beautiful en powerful voice. Just because she has a deeper voice that Belle's it doesn't mean she couldn't get more lines and hit high notes in their own way
I honestly think that people will never be satisfied from blackpink and BabyMonster comebacks ever. They always find something to complain about. I loved baemon's forever but still people are complaining about them copying bp. And I don't know why people always want deep meanings in songs like I sometimes I just want vibe . Yes the lyrics of Rockstar is repetitive but it has vibe. People are literally calling it trash when it's not. I LIKE IT. Sometimes people make me feel bad for liking Rockstar, sheesh and batter up. I like these songs. There is always an audience for every type of music.
Exactly honey. And just because you like it, doesn't mean people have to also like it. And sometimes, the constructive criticism isn't too sweet and the stuff you said about the songs mentioned is the literal reason why I don't like the songs. Rockstar: too repetitive, kinda cringe. Forever: tacky and generic. I think that just because you like something, doesn't mean that others have to also like it.
@@Army_stayy_slayyybecause you people always call the songs generic while listening the same thing from your fav.you dont even give a reason why is a song generic ,the rap part was out of place in forever but the vocals were heavenly .
@@heenadhurwe_ce325 I'm sry but I'll give you why I thought it was generic and tacky. I didn't like the chorus. Everything was fine until the chorus hit. And the rap part seemed like it was cut of. And I didn't like ahyeons rap. I just think that it's a nice step cuz yg is definitely trying to do something different finally and not give bm, BP's rejected songs but I still didn't like the song and cannot force myself to .
@@Army_stayy_slayyy You just said what most westerners think of Kpop or boy/girl groups -tacky and generic, even your faves ... so pick your poison. Also people forget the POP in kpop. Popular music isn't meant to be that deep but it can be.
@@x.Rhymiie.x okay honey. Whatever you wanna think. Cuz you are taking this convo in a direction where it's not supposed to go. And it doesn't even make any goddamn sense!
1:51 isn't debut a pre-release tho? But I agree, it's very short and lacks something to make it special
1. the rap in rockstar is so nonsensical
2. WHEN DID KATSEYE DEBUT?!
I stopped stanning BP after DDU-DU DDU-DU, when it became apparent they only had one dimension and the steady stream of flexing songs became too cringe. My biggest gripe with BP was their lack of creative input. Especially when it came to rapping. IMO, cadence and attitude don't make up for not actually writing the lyrics, so Lisa and Jennie are not contenders for best kpop rappers, female or otherwise. While plenty of fans argue they just didn't receive credit, it's actually better they don't have their names credited because of how silly and cringe most BP lyrics are.
With that in mind, I will reserve judgement on Lisa's writing ability despite Rockstar being much of the same in terms of tone and cringe. My thought (hope) is that if this is the first time she's had creative freedom to write her own lyrics, then it's not surprising she hasn't found her own voice or developed the skill for writing. Should she have held off on a comeback for another two years while she did some soul searching and developed her writing without YG's influence? idk. Rockstar is pretty bad, but I have more hope for her solo work than I do for BP coming out with something good anytime soon.
I think the problem is not the shaking of butt but rather their hand placement. When I watched the MV of Sticky, that step did reminded me of tyla's water.
I think it’s ok to be inspired by a dance move. But it’s different when your copying the music. Ex le serrafim
I’m saying this not as a blink or a Lisa bias but why does everyone want serious lyrics all the time like i don’t even think she was going for a serious song, just a song you can vibe to but y’all will anything she drops even if it’s the best song of her career y’all will find something to hate for
The problem Lisa always does the same thing since debut and it’s getting tiring
@@minjunim0 me what’s that? Doing hip hop?
I agree, and since when did K-Pop stans or at least international stans ever really care for lyrics? Seems like they only care now when it’s Lisa… hmm.
@@Give_me_a_hammer she debuted in bp 8 years ago
@@deathgodtheking2651 that‘s a insult to hip hop
1. I don't know what you all expected... I haven't followed Lisa closely but even if she is interested in other genres than "I have money bitches" she didn't show it. Also... she got her hit's with that brand so why change if it still get's bought and she can dhow off and feel good about herself. I like her workethic and Talent the most in BP but I think she's gonna right that cash cow till it stops making money.
3. I really hope for YG to switch it up with BM because these girls are so vocal and rap talented that I don't want them to be just another product in the chain of YG's style
4. Of course BP earned the most from the group still being signed under YG but for YG it seemed like a matter of life and death. They were loosing their signature artists left and right, the shares dropped and BP's resign was the only hope for them to keep up the standard. And there isn't even the need for anything much to happen, since YG never gave them many comebacks or songs to being with, as part of their infamous slow marketing
5. I hate ad songs as official MV's so goddamn much. I think I hated Coca Cola Zero by New Jeans more than this one though it was kinda less obvious if you just listen to the song
6. Kiss of Life is out here saving us all. They are such a refreshing and talented group.
7. Fr. I've never understood the whole "he is handsome, I like him, he's my bias now" thing. If it's stage presence or dance that you like the most visually and pick a bias based on that then sure, but reducing someone purely on looks when he is not a full time model is ridiculous to me. (But I guess it's because I don't get attracted on looks but on charakter, talent and sometimes presence)
Lisa failed to utilize every resource she got and wasted her contract with rca 😭 she could have just hired a good writer or at the very least a decent one 😂✌️
For me the mv is good the music is good except the lyrics, nobody told her or advised her that the lyrics are super bad?! She needs to hire people who will call her bs and not a yes man/woman. 🙄 she know she can also take lessons in songwriting right? And obviously didn't participate in any of that to improve 💀
7:23 I’m happy you know about Madison Beer problem 🥺🤧 she deserves more appreciation I hope she achieves it 🙏🏼
Some singers just want to be fun popstars and that's ok. Not every musician needs to make music with depth. Also Rockstar is Lisa's best song!
At least she should make the song fun then
True rockstar is her best song so far. Lalisa and money were not it.
I heard that the "Lisa can u teach me japanese" line is actually about the stereotype about asia revolving around Korea and Japan! And it actually makes alot of sense since she promoted Thaï culture in her MV ...im not a big fan of Lisa,but yall are a bunch of hypocrite to critize her but praise many other gg for having "funny lyric, bringing old kpop back w unserious lyrics" Yall always praise then stab another idol for doing the same🌚
if it was illit having the same beat with newjeans, citizens would be blaming and dragging these girls to the ground! but babymonster seems to be an exception! kpop really has double standards!
6. KISS OF LIFE, I'm so proud of them.
If Lisa was as talented as she is rumored to be, she didn't need 100 of backup dancers to make her look good. All that auto-tune and lower than medicore cringe rap lyrics make the song pretty bad, in my opinion.
Can’t have back up dancers now
@deathgodtheking2651 3 or 4 backup is fine, but almost hundreds? Come on, bro... SMH.
@@XG_Ah-Wo0-wOo-WoO and there are people who use more and you could barely see them dancing just standing around waving their hands
@@XG_Ah-Wo0-wOo-WoOhaving so many Backup dancers aren’t bad lmao. What’s wrong with you?
Its literally an mv bruh💀 ofcourse she is gonna have more dancers and props etc to fill up the scenes
Rockstar was alright IMO but for people to say that BM is copying BP is crazy cause they look and sound nothing like BP just like BP sounds nothing like 2Ne1 people just wanna say they alike and copying cause they still not over the other group only reason…I said what I said🤷🏽♀️
Sometimes people don't care about lyrics they just want to vibe to a song. its like reggaeton, lyrics are stupid, but they make you dance and vibe to it. I know its not the same but I'm trying to say that sometimes you just want a song to vibe with.
Nah the opening of Forever was my favorite part 😂
I really like Asa and Chiquita’s voice.
1. Agree, like the MV but the song was just “not it”, she said it’s just the beginning so let’s wait, hopefully she won’t do a full album of songs who are a copy and paste of “money” and “rockstar”
3. I didn’t expect YG to do a full 360 on their music but that’s a start. The song is catchy and (prob because I have been listening to Nmixx lately) I don’t mind the change of beat, it’s rich and lasts 3:30 minutes, which is A LOT nowadays lol. I thought I didn’t like the fooo-re-e-e-ever part but it grows on you after a couple of listenings. The MV was finally something different from YG, less indoor scenes, overall more interactions between the members even in non-dancing parts, midnight vibes in contrast with the summer feeling…it was nice
4. BLACKPINK did what a ton of other gg didn’t do, they demanded independency, they avoided what happened to 2NE1 and that was a power move
6. It was nice but short, and the MV seemed like it was filmed in the same spot from different point of views. Overall it gave me NJ vibes; I preferred Midas touch, this was a bit underwhelming
I don’t mind Lisa’s song I actually like it a lot, because I don’t expect from her anything else sometimes we need to take artists at face value. She never strikes me as artsy, crazy creative person and this lane works for her. It showcases her talents and is a formula that’s easy digestible. This goes for the entirety of Blackpink, y‘all expect way too much from them given what they have shown us throughout the years. These girls are not one in a life time artists, they impacable performers and it’s time to let them be. I truly never got why y’all set the bar to unreachable heights for them. It was expected, but cute. And the nonsensical lyrics, are we really expecting namjoon type of writing from Lalisa? Please folks get a grip
This . Lisa was never a writer or lyricist. She never had indepth meaningful songs why should it be different now. Unrealistic expectations are not good. Take her at face value. She's showcasing her skills and what has always worked for her. She is a great dancer and can rap and she did exactly that. Just enjoy her song instead of expecting her to start making songs that aren't mainstream or songs that are meaningful.
1. When i first listened to rockstar, i was so disappointed in lisa. I was somehow disappointed in myself for expecting too much from her.
2. Katseye debut song bored me so much. Listened once and didnt again.
3. When i listened to forever, i definitely remembered as if its your last. That one time BP decided to not release something we're used to getting from them.
4. No comment.
5. No comment
6. I didnt exactly like the melody in Sticky, but i like the small things in that song. The vocals, and the mv won me over.
7. I feel like visuals have to work as hard as the "ugly" idols to be taken seriously. Just like the "ugly" idols who have to do more to be seen, the visuals have to work harder to be seen past their beauty. I've seen this in my home country. Theres an artist who's known for her huge ass, and all people talked about in regards to her was her ass. Took about 5 years for people to start acknowledging her vocals.
8. I stopped taking korean charts and music show wins seriously.
9. I stop seeing a group as rookies when i first get to see their first mature performance. A performance that shows me the group owns the stage. Thats when i stop seeing them as rookies. I dont put a time limit.
Kpop is dying they don't have something new to offer in the industry the same old genre.. wth..
My (Long) opinion: This is only directed to people who are unnecessarily rude and hateful. If you believe you are giving constructive criticism, this is not for you.
In short, if you don't like certain music, unless it has offensive terms or symbols, just move along and go listen to something you like. Stop ruining people's preferences and making them feel bad for liking it.
Longer:
Lisa's song Rockstar and BM's song's Forever, I really enjoyed. Some people vibe to a song, some like meanings, some do both depending. I honestly don't get people who vocally hate other people's music taste. I get not everyone's gonna like the same music, but what goal or purpose do you have to be so vocally hateful about it. Usually when i don't like a song, I'm just like "okay, it's not my type" to myself or when someone asks when trying out new music. No matter how mediocre or crap a song is to you, that will never be a fact if someone else thoroughly enjoys it. It is so much easier to go on and find or listen to songs you actually like than spending the extra time to hate on a song you hate. It's a much simpler and peaceful solution than fighting with someone about whose songs are better. There is no right measurement of what a "good" song is, music is subjective. That type of hate is so unnecessary unless the song included offensive terms or symbols. And last note, in no way am I saying you are not allowed to voice your opinion, I just don't get people who do it disrespectfully or say stuff like "your music is crap" when someone is excited to show you a song they like. It doesn't cost a penny to just say "Oh, I'm glad you enjoy it, but it's not my cup of tea."
For those who think I'm hurt by someone else's opinion, due to my long opinion: Long "essays" do not equate to being butthurt because I am naturally a person who wants to make sure I am understood and thorough when stating an opinion even if the opinion is on a silly topic.
lol #8. i literally just said “the world does not revolve on korean chart” to some internet trolls 😂
Rockstar was my all time favorite release of the year. Filming in your home country and historic sites that are well known, the inclusion of LGBTQIA dances and myself as an ACE person I felt the connection. Defeating the stereotypes and keeping your culture close are all things u have respect for the rap wasn’t my cup of tea but vocals and instrumental 100%
Can you explain me how Forever is BP style? I really cant see any parts resembling Blackpink
The same people who like newjeans monotone song and lisa cringe ass lyrics song , don't have to comment on babymonster's forever cause at least it's a enjoyable song with an addictive chorus as you guys asked for .
I actually like New Jeans's first two EP's. Cool with you, Get up, Attention, Hype Boy are great songs in my opinion. But to me all their discography should have been made as a debut album because the sound doesn't evolve with their latest releases. Like, it would have been around 20 songs for a full album, then a world tour, and after a year a next album which evolves musically. As a Blink, Lisa's songs are just awful - I don't like any of them, they are Ice Spice coded
3. It's a good attempt to be a bit different but the rap was completely misplaced.
1:41 It’s not a debut lol it’s a song that’s going to be a B-side in their debut album. The song lyrics literally says “this ain’t a debut” 🌚
Both they and their team have been calling it their debut single since it was announced. If this was a b-side track on their debut EP then they wouldn’t have released it by itself or have been giving it this much attention and promo. Also what is that line even supposed to mean considering this is technically their debut.
They’re not a kpop group, therefore they’re a global group and as their first release, this is the debut by definition
1. I said this under ur other video on lisa but im worried that she will never be taken serious as an artist cus of songs like this
2. I was disappointed cus as someone who casually watched dream academy they had amazing vocals so i had high expectations
3. I wish they kept this cult like aesthetic for this like they did with sheesh. Plus all i could think about during the MV was I AM by IVE cus of the visuals. I feel like baemon hit a good spot in a concept then pulled away for this. The song itself aint my thing but its okay ig... Kinda forgettable for me
7. kinda hot take: i need more companies to pull a KIOF or a ITZY. I need an album that have the bsides be the members solos. And not trash ones cus give me KIOF quality. It could help so many idols with the visual curse to show off more.
I watched Ive live, and omg Wonyoung deserves to be center. She is on the whole time. Her energy is off the charts and she is super charismatic
BabyMonster’s Forever has an identity problem. It was all over the place. I was just confused the whole time. Four people were producers on the song. FOUR. I expected better.
The lyrics 😂😂 rockstar
I think Lisa doesn't fall far from the YG formula because she was a YG artist. She lost her blaccent for Rockstar, and I thought it was a really good introduction into who Lisa wants to be in the industry. Call me crazy or even a gullible unicorn, but that's just my opinion. I honestly think Rockstar was the best solo release from Blackpink.
Katseye memebers are highly talented and top tier vocalist under hybe so far its just their into song of katseye not actual debut, actual debut is on Aug 16th 'SIS ' with this intro single along with one more single on july
Yesss to everything you said about Lisa! 👏👏👏
5:19 Oh dear Lord, I'm not excited to see Cola giving Newjeans more advertisement songs.
5:34 Sound like soda advertisment song nr 87. It's hardly ever better. "You can only be who you are" - is one of the exceptions, and primarily, cause it's primarily Batiste's song
6:07 One can't be sure it wasn't..
Lisa was never my favorite due to her solos with Yg, but I was curious to see what she would do independently. There're interesting ideas in the visuals, and it could be more explored in the lyrics, but it ended up being a rehash of her previous works. The only thing I like about it is that the instrumental doesn't make my ears bleed. I just hope the other members don't go in the same direction. I have some hope with jennie since her first solo release was slow motion, which was quite different from yg style
in my opinion forever sounds like a different song when it starts and when it ends, and in this case i dont think its in a good way. the beginning doesnt match the rest of the song at all. its like the producers couldnt decide what type of song they wanted to do and it just ended up messy like 3 songs in one and like the song doesnt have an identity
This is purely pedantic and someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that "all-rounders" were also supposed to be skilled rappers in addition to singers and dancers? (Examples: Ahyeon, Karina, Han)
Almost no idol writes their own raps so they honestly don’t deserve to be called rappers
@@minjunim0 That's just false, and besides, you're conflating the term "ace" with "all-rounder." "Aces" are idols who also excel as producers, songwriters, or another element beyond singing, dancing, and rapping. Also, while I'd say they are the exception and not the rule, there are plenty of idols (Soyeon; Bang Chan, Changbin, and Han; Hongjoong and Mingi) who have numerous writing credits to their name.
@@overthinkingkpop I am not conflating anything if you don’t write your own lyrics don’t call yourself a real rapper! It’s as simple as that and of course there are rappers who write their own lyrics this is why I didn’t say all idols but some
@@minjunim0 I mean, you actually said "almost no" and I just listed half a dozen counterexamples off the top of my head. 🤷🏼♀️ Js
@@overthinkingkpop ALMOST no I never said no one I said almost no one which is obviously a difference
I would call them rookies the first year with constant promotions, not because they know it all but because they would have managed to catch enough about the bases of their profession. Or for their third or fourth comeback.
Agree about Woonyoung, the girl is super pretty and a proficient idol, model and MC, I think she has a little pick me air but I think too it comes with the job.
And about Lisa... As a rock fan... She is not a rock start a pop or rap one sure but not a rock one. Rock is an actual complex gender of music and till now her releases seems basic to me, more brag than anything and that I associate with rap. But I know nothing.
I wanna hear your opinion on Lisa addressing her fans as “Lillies” instead of “blinks” if you have one
when I saw the video of Lisa in TikTok saying the song in the background was her new song I already knew I wasn't going to like it.
1. I haven't heard the song honestly, but my friends told me it was rlly good.
1. it really really hurt you huh, you still talking about it lmao
2. I agree
3. I said this before and I'll say it again, it doesn't matter what BM do, they are gonna be compared no matter what.
5. The song itself was alright but the MV was Pepsi, pepsi everywhere, It felt like a superbowl half time ad.
8. This charts are just a war of who has the biggest fandom, nobody cares about quality of music
1. Y'all are mad when a opinion page has an opinion y'all don't want to here Lisa's music is mediocre at best
@@NilynneAdeyemi I'm not mad, its an opinion i'm just find it annoying when you talk about one thing in one video and you repeat the same thing in another video, like we get it you dind't like it, but why repeat it again we heard you the first time haha that was my point, if people like or don't like is their opinion idc at all xD
@@CieT7 Well next time don't watch a video on HER channel then you won't have to hear it
@@NilynneAdeyemi well next time don't reply on something you don't understand.
@@CieT7 I did understand the comment I thought it was dumb because Nobody forcing you to be here 💕
I really liked the opening part of forever
Yg not a likable company but for real!!! They done wonders for blackpink that they made them a wall and unique but now .... they can't find their own shining colours at all and all like rushed just to catch the remaining fame to earn much ❤
But what I enjoy about rockstar is the way Lisa is happy with her craft
Lalisa can you teach me Japanese? Hai hai
XD this lyric sound memeable. Don't misunderstand, it's funny in good way that makes your day better
🔥3. Babymonster got THE BEST VOCALISTS of the 5th gen and yg is waisting all their talent gosh!!!!
LISA ATE LOL CRY ABOUT Hㅇㅌ
Ahhh u mad
Babymonster forever is the song i liked the most......better than sheesh.
I’m being deadass when I say but don’t listen to her music if yall don’t like her songs it’s not that hard, nobody is forcing you to listen to her
For me the instrumentals in rockstar ate the mv slayed but the lyrics were cringey af 💀
Him: “You wan su-“
Me: GIVE IT
All the men have cool lyrics and meaningless lyrics abt cars and money and they're most viewed and famous ,What meaningful song do you want ,her to write abt her problems or something deep ,the world doesn't have many problems to keep putting in songs..do you want to create more problems in the world to write and create more lyrics, !???blackpink all songs were meaningful ,do you want her to do the same!? Its same this way and same the other way .. she's trying something new ,her debut was amazing!!❤🎉🎉
Heyy girl can you please link ur spotify i feel like your playlist will be soo good ❤❤ plzz
4. BP members are no longer K-pop idol's, they've grown too big individually. They will continue to cater to the west where there's more opportunities for bigger individual deals.
nah, aside from lisa (and maybe rose if she continues making english songs) jennie and jisoo are still kpop
The mv for forever reminds me of Ive I am
@@rikakasumi2002He directed I AM and FOREVER? No wonder why it looked the same.
@@rikakasumi2002 I like both songs
Tbh I never liked Baby Monster Their fans are totally too much i really can't vibe witb their songs it sounds recycled everytime
Lisa is absolutely nothing without yg and she disrespect her own roots by forgetting her own fans blinks and focus only solo stan lilies 😂😂😂😂
I love Rockstar lol
people who is Katseye????
5: People are boycotting IVE.
state the source
@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dqHang on, when it was announced that IVE would release a song in collaboration with Pepsi titled “Summer Festa”, fans planned a boycott due to PepsiCo‘s ownership of SodaStream. SodaStream is all about making homemade fizzy drinks easy. It's a company that makes machines for adding carbonation to your drinks at home. It started in England but is now based in Israel. Further information from the BDS movement states that: “Soda Steam is actively complicit in Israel’s policy of displacing the indigenous Bedouin-Palestinian citizens of Israel in the Naqab (Negev). SodaStream have a long history of mistreatment of and discrimination against Palestinian workers.”
out of all you mentioned the only talented ones were mingyu jaehyun sullyon and wonyoung
2. Is it just me or did the song had some GIDLE melody..
🤎I'm not a lilly and have never been a blink 🤎I just find it all interesting lisa has always pushed the visual story telling aspect throughout most of Black pinks concepts (jennie and rose have agreed on the topic) , Rockstar to me was a show of that also an acknowledgement by lisa like a "look I'M THE ONE THAT PUSHED THIS QUALITY NOT YG" I find it very odd so many already have full scale dissertations on her success 🤔 it all looks like yall want her to Prove to yall that she was always worthy of bp?? Or that she can stand on her own when she doesn't have to (she's already been doing that in her country legit making money moves she just signed an investment deal on a movie.) At least as a completely removed party THAT'S what your opinion, plus the same opinions being thrown at her from blinks read like to me. Like what could she drop that would stop criticism at her right now? Prob nothing I think lisa knows that all members do so there all focused on getting the vision THEY want regardless of public scrutiny cause theyve BEEN having dealt with that 😂the girls are heading into there 30s FINALLY being on there own, keeping blinks happy or trying to become the saviors of 5 gen kpop was NEVER on either of there agendas there fandom did that all there own and now they seem mad that there own para social expectations they never actually voiced to the girls ARENT being met😂 "she even thanked lilies NOT US BLINKS SPECIFICALLY wow lisa was ALWAYS BAD" that's what the loveliy blinks are currently on about and THAT further reinforces my opinion 😆
Early😁🩷
4. True the new blackpink contract was the best contract renewal closer, YG is a shit company so honestly this was what was need to done