Here are some great videos of Hansi and Jerobeam (Chris) showing some of the behind the scenes "making of": This great talk by Hansi about the software and how he met Chris: th-cam.com/video/iM5BW75CKJQ/w-d-xo.html This short one showing them working together on some of the tracks: th-cam.com/video/IUNLm6kXMy0/w-d-xo.html I kid you not, I applauded spontaneously mid way through the first one.
No that's not proof, Jerobeam Fenderson makes his music on digital software: Pure Data, MaxMSP, Ableton, OsciStudio & Blender. You can achieve the same results with a FM synth, digital or analogue.
@@MilezAwxy What a heck are you trying to say? No matter what tools you use for making art, absolutely doesn't undo the fact of purely analogue end result where incredible picture art gets conveyed by incredibly pleasing musical audio signal by very nature of purely analogue world.
Youre exactly right! It sounds like an FM synth cause that's one of the two main effects he uses, FM and RM, to make the shapes. He uses one wave's frequency to Modulate the Frequency (FM) of another.
8:30 Noooo!!! Right when he was gonna do the 3d mushroom field part of the demo! I wanted to see how that was gonna look on the bottom display! Just 5 more seconds maaannn... Why interupt it right there? Ohhh the pain...
When I was a teen in the 70's, I built what was called a lissie. Saw it in a magazine. black and white tv, remove the yoke and leave it connected. Then slip another one on. connect to two 70v audio transformers and feed it from a stereo. Pretty much the same effect. very cool demo Marc!
Also some nice phasing and binaural beats. You see what's going on with the change in harmonics. If SETI ever gets "dubstep music" from space, this should be one of the ways it needs to be looked at. Messages purposely sent out are likely to be made fairly obvious, and this is one way where not too much math is needed for the icons and pictograms to be right there.
That's because sirens are designed with music theory concepts in mind, even the oldfashioned rotor ones. The rotors had specfic mathematical numbers of rotors on each of the two spinners to do this. Sirens are designed to create extremely dissonant, out of tune chords between two notes. This is disturbing and generally creepy to the human ear, and this is on purpose. Honestly the old rotor sirens do a better job of it in almost all cases. Except the Chicago tornado sirens I swear they are more terrifying than the event itself.
yes, we do a lot of scoping together. but in this case it's completely jerobeams work. (there's also no osci studio used for the space scene at 13:11 , it's all done in max/pd ). a lot of it is really hard to credit actually, because everything exists already and it's just a matter of piecing it together differently. e.g. here's the butterfly: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_curve_(transcendental) and here are 3d projections: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_projection .
+hansiraber Great to have you here! I am pretty convinced that even if I had been armed with the equations and the software I would not have come up with anything remotely as nice as this. Hats off to both of you!
Very nicely done! I really like seeing the individual channel traces, I’ve been following Jerobeam for years and i think that is the first time I’ve seen those.
I guess what's even more surprising is that analogue to digital to analogue can still produce these intricate patterns despite the approximation of digitising techniques
That's an excellent idea! I think you can generate your own using Hansi Raber's OsciStudio software: oscilloscopemusic.com/oscistudio.php . That's Jerobeam's friend. Jerobeam also shows how you can use other free tools to make mathematical shapes easily here: oscilloscopemusic.com/software.php . I suspect you could do you test screen with these.
Right on! Funny... I happened to be playing a vintage Battlezone video game while on lysergic acid diethylamide just last week and that's pretty much what I was witnessing the whole time.
9:33 Amazing feat here. The shape seriously and eerily reminds me of the star fortress all over the world. Immediately where my mind went to. Does anyone else know what im talking about?
Это надо показать Тиесто =D возможно скоро нужно будет ожидать такой психодел на известных дискотеках мира. Но это не точно. Очень круто сделано. В этом видео есть своя особая гипнотическая эстетика.
I love how when the lissajous figures are moving, you can make them rotate in different directions if you try hard enough. they tend to rotate along the y axis by default for me, but i can force that to change
Awesome !! these projections would have been right at home at a Gong concert ; ) Have played around with lissajous patterns but nothing like this !! - time to put my scope & sig-gen back to use, must try to recreate : D
Damn, takes me back to working in a test equipment calibration Lab, dread to think how many hours i wasted trying to get the most interesting non sinusoidal waveform on my Scope.
This makes me think about a possible contact with aliens: it would be a very interesting plot for a movie! Imagine: a guy who is very into oscilloscope and similar stuff intercepts an alien signal and by using his strumentation he discovers the signal can can be "translated" into images... opinions? :P
Here are some great videos of Hansi and Jerobeam (Chris) showing some of the behind the scenes "making of":
This great talk by Hansi about the software and how he met Chris: th-cam.com/video/iM5BW75CKJQ/w-d-xo.html
This short one showing them working together on some of the tracks: th-cam.com/video/IUNLm6kXMy0/w-d-xo.html
I kid you not, I applauded spontaneously mid way through the first one.
The most amazing thing is how listenable it is as music
i really like how the flute signal looks on the XY display :D
If my brain is ever transferred into a robot, I want an oscilloscope for my mouth
Skooks entire face*
@@GenesisRasphotos entire body*
yes
Like Caren from Spongebob?
I WANT TO BE AN OSCILLOSCOPE
"And of course we want the mushrooms to move just like in real life" LOL the guy must've been on mushrooms when he made that!
He definitely was 😂🤣
It's a reference to the kick starter promo for a vectorscope album
Infected mushroom
I have never been so amazed in my life.
I was so flashed !
proof of the incredible and mesmerising beauty of the natural analogue world
Created with the OsciStudio software.
No that's not proof, Jerobeam Fenderson makes his music on digital software: Pure Data, MaxMSP, Ableton, OsciStudio & Blender. You can achieve the same results with a FM synth, digital or analogue.
@@MilezAwxy What a heck are you trying to say? No matter what tools you use for making art, absolutely doesn't undo the fact of purely analogue end result where incredible picture art gets conveyed by incredibly pleasing musical audio signal by very nature of purely analogue world.
@@MilezAwxy Yes but the image won't be as "warm".
Has a really really cool vibe to it.
Sounds like an FM sound synth. Has this old school demo feel to it.
love it
haha, reminds me of going straight to the local computer shop straight after college and grabbing the latest demo disk fro the Amiga 500
Youre exactly right! It sounds like an FM synth cause that's one of the two main effects he uses, FM and RM, to make the shapes. He uses one wave's frequency to Modulate the Frequency (FM) of another.
this reminds me of the instrument in futurama that alllows people to create pictures with music
Holophonor ?
I CAN'T EVEN FUCKING 3D ANIMATE AND THAT GUY DOES IT ON A FREAKING ANALOG OSZILLOSCOPE
Lot's of patience, I bet.
passionce
maybe you should get you a KORG Workstation.....
Naah. It's all math.
Lots of math, engineering, and creativity. I'm trying to make my own oscilloscope art framework.
I've been wanting an old analog scope for a while. this just put it higher up on the list!
3:46 I swear I can see a hollow tube made of chicken wire rotating. The thing is, I can change which way it’s rotating. Up, down, left, right.
WOAH
Actually... that’s the Dual Axis Illusion, awarded the Best Illusion of the Year... in 2019. More than three years after this video was published.
WOW this is freaking awesome, no idea how I missed this entire concept, especially with 8 scopes sitting around idle... Thanks for the vid!
Absolutely amazing! Coolest experiment ive seen since Cymatics.
8:30 Noooo!!! Right when he was gonna do the 3d mushroom field part of the demo! I wanted to see how that was gonna look on the bottom display! Just 5 more seconds maaannn... Why interupt it right there? Ohhh the pain...
Guardatelo sul video originale
I know right? I was just about to be like "Yes I finally get to see how it works!!" and then it's gone.
Maybe that is a sign. You must buy an oscilloscope!! It will change your life!!!
Here you go m.th-cam.com/video/rtR63-ecUNo/w-d-xo.html
Now input this waveform into a tesla coil array!
So, that is how the Infected Mushroom do their music!
When I was a teen in the 70's, I built what was called a lissie. Saw it in a magazine. black and white tv, remove the yoke and leave it connected. Then slip another one on. connect to two 70v audio transformers and feed it from a stereo. Pretty much the same effect. very cool demo Marc!
Also some nice phasing and binaural beats. You see what's going on with the change in harmonics.
If SETI ever gets "dubstep music" from space, this should be one of the ways it needs to be looked at. Messages purposely sent out are likely to be made fairly obvious, and this is one way where not too much math is needed for the icons and pictograms to be right there.
at 3:46, that's the same exact tone that comes out of a Federal Signal Modulator dual tone electronic siren. I mean, even the pitch matches.
That's because sirens are designed with music theory concepts in mind, even the oldfashioned rotor ones. The rotors had specfic mathematical numbers of rotors on each of the two spinners to do this. Sirens are designed to create extremely dissonant, out of tune chords between two notes. This is disturbing and generally creepy to the human ear, and this is on purpose.
Honestly the old rotor sirens do a better job of it in almost all cases. Except the Chicago tornado sirens I swear they are more terrifying than the event itself.
@@axipixel5811 hell yeah no idea what you said but I agree
Can’t imagine the time involved in something like that… pretty neat
It's actually not entirely his work. The DSP algorithms for the 3D projections were developed by mathematician Hansi Raber.
The software Raber developed (and anyone can get it at: asdfg.me/oscistudio/index_grey.html) deserves ample credit.
yes, we do a lot of scoping together. but in this case it's completely jerobeams work. (there's also no osci studio used for the space scene at 13:11 , it's all done in max/pd ).
a lot of it is really hard to credit actually, because everything exists already and it's just a matter of piecing it together differently. e.g. here's the butterfly: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_curve_(transcendental) and here are 3d projections: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_projection .
+hansiraber Great to have you here! I am pretty convinced that even if I had been armed with the equations and the software I would not have come up with anything remotely as nice as this. Hats off to both of you!
woah... are you douro20 on lighting-gallery?
alertec2202
Yes.
Very nicely done! I really like seeing the individual channel traces, I’ve been following Jerobeam for years and i think that is the first time I’ve seen those.
way cool. thanks for sharing. particularly the dual view with the two channels separated.
The grand finale is spectacular. Great mind food.
Thanks for a transcendent video, @CuriousMarc!
I guess what's even more surprising is that analogue to digital to analogue can still produce these intricate patterns despite the approximation of digitising techniques
If you make the approximations small enough, they have minimal effect.
I love how some notes appear as a rotating sort of basket. Certain sounds are not only sonically beautiful but also visually.
WOOOOOW this is amazing. I don't even have words for express how I liked it.
Returning to watch this years later and it still sends me into a geek drool :)
Imgine this on LSD, woah
imagine that your brain uses the same math, as the visuals are comparable, while on acid ;)
This is quite interesting as it clearly shows the distinct link between music and mathematics.
I would say that slightly psychedelic is an understatement !!!
This is amazingly mind-blowing!
Talk about having a hidden digital Easter egg in music.
This is a continuous clutch of Easter eggs!👍
Analog easter egg ;)
Beautiful. I love analog oscilloscopes or at least analog display.
This is legitimately hypnotic
others have done this many times before, but this guys work is awesome aswell !
This oscilloscope is way way much better compared to some of the other ones where the other ones have mismatching lines on their display.
Nice lab you got going there! I love the *smell* of classic electronics! Electronics that were built by the pound!
COOL video ! I connected my stereo to and old 21 inch TV's yolk doing the same thing back in the late 70's, neat as hell !
Those illuminated pushbuttons on the oscilloscope are great, I wish more electronics had illuminated pushbuttons.
Absolutely Mesmerizing!
This is just amazing, how simple is the idea
thats just goes to show that a lot of tech from the past is still useful today
I want some oscilloscope music that displays a geometric calibration pattern like the very expensive calibration plugins generate!
That's an excellent idea! I think you can generate your own using Hansi Raber's OsciStudio software: oscilloscopemusic.com/oscistudio.php . That's Jerobeam's friend. Jerobeam also shows how you can use other free tools to make mathematical shapes easily here: oscilloscopemusic.com/software.php . I suspect you could do you test screen with these.
@@CuriousMarc oooh this software looks good, i'll see what it can do!
Whet you said was 2/3, a muaical fifth, was 3/4, a musical fourth.the next interval was a fifth.
As cool as this is, I always had doubts about this being legit, it's so cool that this album is.
Right on! Funny... I happened to be playing a vintage Battlezone video game while on lysergic acid diethylamide just last week and that's pretty much what I was witnessing the whole time.
You enlighten us CuriosMarc!
that was seriously dope. Jerobeam Fenderson is a genius.
Aha! You replicated my "scope degoozerizer!" It's a fun circuit!
4:50 woah why does it feels good to hear this, i like it 👍👍👍
Now I get the whole TRSI "Beams of Light" demo!
What's the album you showed called?
I think just "Oscilloscope Music". I added the link in the description.
CuriousMarc Thanks!
Everybody got,
mixed feelings,
about the function and the form.
Everybody got to deviate from the norm.
Looking at sound ! simply awesome.
Great stuff - thank you for showing!
9:33 Amazing feat here. The shape seriously and eerily reminds me of the star fortress all over the world. Immediately where my mind went to. Does anyone else know what im talking about?
sounds like NiN! great music and visuals. cant wait to try these while on
Is this how sound creates the universe?
Thanks for this and all your great videos. Cheers.
11:27
I love how there are also shrooms on the bottom display
wow ive been hypnotized!!!!
Imagine Kraftwerk's 'Wir sind der roboter' played all together with this. Super!
that was more fun than any other mainstream music
man, i really want an oscilloscope; even more than before now!
I have no idea wtf is happening, but it is amazing.
Thousands of cats and dogs are going nuts right now as people are watching you make lissajous patterns with the function generator.
this feels like something from the future we never had. from a parallel universe
So cool! I'd love to see a slow motion capture of this.
i can see this as a great music style
That’s next level!
Это надо показать Тиесто =D возможно скоро нужно будет ожидать такой психодел на известных дискотеках мира.
Но это не точно.
Очень круто сделано. В этом видео есть своя особая гипнотическая эстетика.
woah this is amazing
I’m geeking and tripping out all at once! Lol
I love how when the lissajous figures are moving, you can make them rotate in different directions if you try hard enough. they tend to rotate along the y axis by default for me, but i can force that to change
thank you marc
I wish you had left the lower image in view for all of it. I've already seen the main view from the original videos.
I actually did stuff like this to test a vector scope i made from an old tv. First thing was sine, and cosine circle, then i made lissajous curves.
jerobeam fenderson is actually german living in vienna/austria! ;)
Google confirms you are right! His real name is Christian Ludwig, lives in Austria. Sorry for the confusion.
CuriousMarc Holy shit, I need to visit this guy, I'm like 2 hours away from him only since I live in Austria too
that was awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fourier series are so beautiful
Awesome !! these projections would have been right at home at a Gong concert ; )
Have played around with lissajous patterns but nothing like this !!
- time to put my scope & sig-gen back to use, must try to recreate : D
That's amazing. Oh my gosh. I need to have this, too. :O
"We want our mushroom to move, just like in real life"
Oh wow I just got to the 'music' track bit, my 465 is getting a work out tomorrow.
AMAZING
Very cool! Love it!
Thanks for sharing, that was nice :)
Now to somehow connect this up as a display to a computer
Much easier than you think if you know what you are doing
WOW! Amazing
I had to buy a copy of this after watching it.
I think they used effects like these in FUTUREWORLD, STAR TREK: The Motion Picture, and UFO: Target Earth - - all from the 1970's
I left youtube on my pc for 2 hours and left the room. This is what I came back to.
Welcome
Humans are amazing.
#pizzagate
I LOVE IT!!!! I got to build my own!
Damn, takes me back to working in a test equipment calibration Lab, dread to think how many hours i wasted trying to get the most interesting non sinusoidal waveform on my Scope.
Analogue mushrooms. Very cool. :)
THAT'S SO COOL
Never seen that before but as an EE and a music producer, holfuckingsht thats fucking awesome.
This makes me think about a possible contact with aliens: it would be a very interesting plot for a movie! Imagine: a guy who is very into oscilloscope and similar stuff intercepts an alien signal and by using his strumentation he discovers the signal can can be "translated" into images... opinions? :P
Blu Singlet theres a reason you have 1like after a year
"Hollywood wants to know your location"