Here are some great videos of Hansi and Jerobeam (Chris) showing some of the behind the scenes "making of": This great talk by Hansi about the software and how he met Chris: th-cam.com/video/iM5BW75CKJQ/w-d-xo.html This short one showing them working together on some of the tracks: th-cam.com/video/IUNLm6kXMy0/w-d-xo.html I kid you not, I applauded spontaneously mid way through the first one.
Youre exactly right! It sounds like an FM synth cause that's one of the two main effects he uses, FM and RM, to make the shapes. He uses one wave's frequency to Modulate the Frequency (FM) of another.
No that's not proof, Jerobeam Fenderson makes his music on digital software: Pure Data, MaxMSP, Ableton, OsciStudio & Blender. You can achieve the same results with a FM synth, digital or analogue.
@@MilezAwxy What a heck are you trying to say? No matter what tools you use for making art, absolutely doesn't undo the fact of purely analogue end result where incredible picture art gets conveyed by incredibly pleasing musical audio signal by very nature of purely analogue world.
8:30 Noooo!!! Right when he was gonna do the 3d mushroom field part of the demo! I wanted to see how that was gonna look on the bottom display! Just 5 more seconds maaannn... Why interupt it right there? Ohhh the pain...
Also some nice phasing and binaural beats. You see what's going on with the change in harmonics. If SETI ever gets "dubstep music" from space, this should be one of the ways it needs to be looked at. Messages purposely sent out are likely to be made fairly obvious, and this is one way where not too much math is needed for the icons and pictograms to be right there.
That's because sirens are designed with music theory concepts in mind, even the oldfashioned rotor ones. The rotors had specfic mathematical numbers of rotors on each of the two spinners to do this. Sirens are designed to create extremely dissonant, out of tune chords between two notes. This is disturbing and generally creepy to the human ear, and this is on purpose. Honestly the old rotor sirens do a better job of it in almost all cases. Except the Chicago tornado sirens I swear they are more terrifying than the event itself.
Very nicely done! I really like seeing the individual channel traces, I’ve been following Jerobeam for years and i think that is the first time I’ve seen those.
yes, we do a lot of scoping together. but in this case it's completely jerobeams work. (there's also no osci studio used for the space scene at 13:11 , it's all done in max/pd ). a lot of it is really hard to credit actually, because everything exists already and it's just a matter of piecing it together differently. e.g. here's the butterfly: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_curve_(transcendental) and here are 3d projections: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_projection .
+hansiraber Great to have you here! I am pretty convinced that even if I had been armed with the equations and the software I would not have come up with anything remotely as nice as this. Hats off to both of you!
When I was a teen in the 70's, I built what was called a lissie. Saw it in a magazine. black and white tv, remove the yoke and leave it connected. Then slip another one on. connect to two 70v audio transformers and feed it from a stereo. Pretty much the same effect. very cool demo Marc!
I guess what's even more surprising is that analogue to digital to analogue can still produce these intricate patterns despite the approximation of digitising techniques
That's an excellent idea! I think you can generate your own using Hansi Raber's OsciStudio software: oscilloscopemusic.com/oscistudio.php . That's Jerobeam's friend. Jerobeam also shows how you can use other free tools to make mathematical shapes easily here: oscilloscopemusic.com/software.php . I suspect you could do you test screen with these.
9:33 Amazing feat here. The shape seriously and eerily reminds me of the star fortress all over the world. Immediately where my mind went to. Does anyone else know what im talking about?
Right on! Funny... I happened to be playing a vintage Battlezone video game while on lysergic acid diethylamide just last week and that's pretty much what I was witnessing the whole time.
Это надо показать Тиесто =D возможно скоро нужно будет ожидать такой психодел на известных дискотеках мира. Но это не точно. Очень круто сделано. В этом видео есть своя особая гипнотическая эстетика.
This makes me think about a possible contact with aliens: it would be a very interesting plot for a movie! Imagine: a guy who is very into oscilloscope and similar stuff intercepts an alien signal and by using his strumentation he discovers the signal can can be "translated" into images... opinions? :P
I love how when the lissajous figures are moving, you can make them rotate in different directions if you try hard enough. they tend to rotate along the y axis by default for me, but i can force that to change
Awesome !! these projections would have been right at home at a Gong concert ; ) Have played around with lissajous patterns but nothing like this !! - time to put my scope & sig-gen back to use, must try to recreate : D
Thanks for this, it's fantastic. I can see (I think) why you have to change the coordinates to xy, as I imagine that the bottom screen is lr? Even if not, I can at least begin to see how you can build the images up.
I guess you could use an XY laser (galvo) scanner/projector instead of an XY oscilloscope? Might have to try running the Shrooms album/music through LSX or something :) Might need a low pass filter to reduce the complexity though as I don't think 40K galvos could keep up.
Damn, takes me back to working in a test equipment calibration Lab, dread to think how many hours i wasted trying to get the most interesting non sinusoidal waveform on my Scope.
...Makes me wonder: Is the Universe, and everything in it, just a song? Considering the duality of most particles that make up matter, I've wondered if LOTR and Silmarillion weren't a little closer to the mark than we may think - or than Tolkien intended.
Superstring/M theory suggests pretty much that. In that in it, every elementary particle is given to be a loop/membrane of, I guess 'energy', oscillating in 11 dimensions. The frequency determines what flavour of particle it is.
Here are some great videos of Hansi and Jerobeam (Chris) showing some of the behind the scenes "making of":
This great talk by Hansi about the software and how he met Chris: th-cam.com/video/iM5BW75CKJQ/w-d-xo.html
This short one showing them working together on some of the tracks: th-cam.com/video/IUNLm6kXMy0/w-d-xo.html
I kid you not, I applauded spontaneously mid way through the first one.
The most amazing thing is how listenable it is as music
i really like how the flute signal looks on the XY display :D
If my brain is ever transferred into a robot, I want an oscilloscope for my mouth
Skooks entire face*
@@GenesisRasphotos entire body*
yes
Like Caren from Spongebob?
I WANT TO BE AN OSCILLOSCOPE
"And of course we want the mushrooms to move just like in real life" LOL the guy must've been on mushrooms when he made that!
He definitely was 😂🤣
It's a reference to the kick starter promo for a vectorscope album
Infected mushroom
Has a really really cool vibe to it.
Sounds like an FM sound synth. Has this old school demo feel to it.
love it
haha, reminds me of going straight to the local computer shop straight after college and grabbing the latest demo disk fro the Amiga 500
Youre exactly right! It sounds like an FM synth cause that's one of the two main effects he uses, FM and RM, to make the shapes. He uses one wave's frequency to Modulate the Frequency (FM) of another.
I have never been so amazed in my life.
I was so flashed !
proof of the incredible and mesmerising beauty of the natural analogue world
Created with the OsciStudio software.
No that's not proof, Jerobeam Fenderson makes his music on digital software: Pure Data, MaxMSP, Ableton, OsciStudio & Blender. You can achieve the same results with a FM synth, digital or analogue.
@@MilezAwxy What a heck are you trying to say? No matter what tools you use for making art, absolutely doesn't undo the fact of purely analogue end result where incredible picture art gets conveyed by incredibly pleasing musical audio signal by very nature of purely analogue world.
@@MilezAwxy Yes but the image won't be as "warm".
this reminds me of the instrument in futurama that alllows people to create pictures with music
Holophonor ?
I CAN'T EVEN FUCKING 3D ANIMATE AND THAT GUY DOES IT ON A FREAKING ANALOG OSZILLOSCOPE
Lot's of patience, I bet.
passionce
maybe you should get you a KORG Workstation.....
Naah. It's all math.
Lots of math, engineering, and creativity. I'm trying to make my own oscilloscope art framework.
3:46 I swear I can see a hollow tube made of chicken wire rotating. The thing is, I can change which way it’s rotating. Up, down, left, right.
WOAH
Actually... that’s the Dual Axis Illusion, awarded the Best Illusion of the Year... in 2019. More than three years after this video was published.
WOW this is freaking awesome, no idea how I missed this entire concept, especially with 8 scopes sitting around idle... Thanks for the vid!
I've been wanting an old analog scope for a while. this just put it higher up on the list!
8:30 Noooo!!! Right when he was gonna do the 3d mushroom field part of the demo! I wanted to see how that was gonna look on the bottom display! Just 5 more seconds maaannn... Why interupt it right there? Ohhh the pain...
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I know right? I was just about to be like "Yes I finally get to see how it works!!" and then it's gone.
Maybe that is a sign. You must buy an oscilloscope!! It will change your life!!!
Here you go m.th-cam.com/video/rtR63-ecUNo/w-d-xo.html
Also some nice phasing and binaural beats. You see what's going on with the change in harmonics.
If SETI ever gets "dubstep music" from space, this should be one of the ways it needs to be looked at. Messages purposely sent out are likely to be made fairly obvious, and this is one way where not too much math is needed for the icons and pictograms to be right there.
at 3:46, that's the same exact tone that comes out of a Federal Signal Modulator dual tone electronic siren. I mean, even the pitch matches.
That's because sirens are designed with music theory concepts in mind, even the oldfashioned rotor ones. The rotors had specfic mathematical numbers of rotors on each of the two spinners to do this. Sirens are designed to create extremely dissonant, out of tune chords between two notes. This is disturbing and generally creepy to the human ear, and this is on purpose.
Honestly the old rotor sirens do a better job of it in almost all cases. Except the Chicago tornado sirens I swear they are more terrifying than the event itself.
@@axipixel5811 hell yeah no idea what you said but I agree
Very nicely done! I really like seeing the individual channel traces, I’ve been following Jerobeam for years and i think that is the first time I’ve seen those.
Now input this waveform into a tesla coil array!
Absolutely amazing! Coolest experiment ive seen since Cymatics.
It's actually not entirely his work. The DSP algorithms for the 3D projections were developed by mathematician Hansi Raber.
The software Raber developed (and anyone can get it at: asdfg.me/oscistudio/index_grey.html) deserves ample credit.
yes, we do a lot of scoping together. but in this case it's completely jerobeams work. (there's also no osci studio used for the space scene at 13:11 , it's all done in max/pd ).
a lot of it is really hard to credit actually, because everything exists already and it's just a matter of piecing it together differently. e.g. here's the butterfly: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_curve_(transcendental) and here are 3d projections: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_projection .
+hansiraber Great to have you here! I am pretty convinced that even if I had been armed with the equations and the software I would not have come up with anything remotely as nice as this. Hats off to both of you!
woah... are you douro20 on lighting-gallery?
alertec2202
Yes.
way cool. thanks for sharing. particularly the dual view with the two channels separated.
Thanks for a transcendent video, @CuriousMarc!
So, that is how the Infected Mushroom do their music!
This is amazingly mind-blowing!
Talk about having a hidden digital Easter egg in music.
This is a continuous clutch of Easter eggs!👍
Analog easter egg ;)
Can’t imagine the time involved in something like that… pretty neat
I love how some notes appear as a rotating sort of basket. Certain sounds are not only sonically beautiful but also visually.
When I was a teen in the 70's, I built what was called a lissie. Saw it in a magazine. black and white tv, remove the yoke and leave it connected. Then slip another one on. connect to two 70v audio transformers and feed it from a stereo. Pretty much the same effect. very cool demo Marc!
COOL video ! I connected my stereo to and old 21 inch TV's yolk doing the same thing back in the late 70's, neat as hell !
Imgine this on LSD, woah
imagine that your brain uses the same math, as the visuals are comparable, while on acid ;)
Nice lab you got going there! I love the *smell* of classic electronics! Electronics that were built by the pound!
WOOOOOW this is amazing. I don't even have words for express how I liked it.
I guess what's even more surprising is that analogue to digital to analogue can still produce these intricate patterns despite the approximation of digitising techniques
If you make the approximations small enough, they have minimal effect.
I want some oscilloscope music that displays a geometric calibration pattern like the very expensive calibration plugins generate!
That's an excellent idea! I think you can generate your own using Hansi Raber's OsciStudio software: oscilloscopemusic.com/oscistudio.php . That's Jerobeam's friend. Jerobeam also shows how you can use other free tools to make mathematical shapes easily here: oscilloscopemusic.com/software.php . I suspect you could do you test screen with these.
@@CuriousMarc oooh this software looks good, i'll see what it can do!
others have done this many times before, but this guys work is awesome aswell !
This is just amazing, how simple is the idea
Returning to watch this years later and it still sends me into a geek drool :)
The grand finale is spectacular. Great mind food.
Whet you said was 2/3, a muaical fifth, was 3/4, a musical fourth.the next interval was a fifth.
This is quite interesting as it clearly shows the distinct link between music and mathematics.
I would say that slightly psychedelic is an understatement !!!
This is legitimately hypnotic
Those illuminated pushbuttons on the oscilloscope are great, I wish more electronics had illuminated pushbuttons.
9:33 Amazing feat here. The shape seriously and eerily reminds me of the star fortress all over the world. Immediately where my mind went to. Does anyone else know what im talking about?
Beautiful. I love analog oscilloscopes or at least analog display.
Is this how sound creates the universe?
This oscilloscope is way way much better compared to some of the other ones where the other ones have mismatching lines on their display.
that was seriously dope. Jerobeam Fenderson is a genius.
Absolutely Mesmerizing!
Thanks for this and all your great videos. Cheers.
You enlighten us CuriosMarc!
Right on! Funny... I happened to be playing a vintage Battlezone video game while on lysergic acid diethylamide just last week and that's pretty much what I was witnessing the whole time.
Now I get the whole TRSI "Beams of Light" demo!
What's the album you showed called?
I think just "Oscilloscope Music". I added the link in the description.
CuriousMarc Thanks!
thats just goes to show that a lot of tech from the past is still useful today
Aha! You replicated my "scope degoozerizer!" It's a fun circuit!
As cool as this is, I always had doubts about this being legit, it's so cool that this album is.
I wish you had left the lower image in view for all of it. I've already seen the main view from the original videos.
sounds like NiN! great music and visuals. cant wait to try these while on
Thousands of cats and dogs are going nuts right now as people are watching you make lissajous patterns with the function generator.
Looking at sound ! simply awesome.
Great stuff - thank you for showing!
Everybody got,
mixed feelings,
about the function and the form.
Everybody got to deviate from the norm.
So cool! I'd love to see a slow motion capture of this.
Это надо показать Тиесто =D возможно скоро нужно будет ожидать такой психодел на известных дискотеках мира.
Но это не точно.
Очень круто сделано. В этом видео есть своя особая гипнотическая эстетика.
This makes me think about a possible contact with aliens: it would be a very interesting plot for a movie! Imagine: a guy who is very into oscilloscope and similar stuff intercepts an alien signal and by using his strumentation he discovers the signal can can be "translated" into images... opinions? :P
Blu Singlet theres a reason you have 1like after a year
"Hollywood wants to know your location"
I love how when the lissajous figures are moving, you can make them rotate in different directions if you try hard enough. they tend to rotate along the y axis by default for me, but i can force that to change
wow ive been hypnotized!!!!
Awesome !! these projections would have been right at home at a Gong concert ; )
Have played around with lissajous patterns but nothing like this !!
- time to put my scope & sig-gen back to use, must try to recreate : D
that was more fun than any other mainstream music
I have no idea wtf is happening, but it is amazing.
I actually did stuff like this to test a vector scope i made from an old tv. First thing was sine, and cosine circle, then i made lissajous curves.
jerobeam fenderson is actually german living in vienna/austria! ;)
Google confirms you are right! His real name is Christian Ludwig, lives in Austria. Sorry for the confusion.
CuriousMarc Holy shit, I need to visit this guy, I'm like 2 hours away from him only since I live in Austria too
4:50 woah why does it feels good to hear this, i like it 👍👍👍
11:27
I love how there are also shrooms on the bottom display
this feels like something from the future we never had. from a parallel universe
woah this is amazing
man, i really want an oscilloscope; even more than before now!
thank you marc
i can see this as a great music style
That’s next level!
Imagine Kraftwerk's 'Wir sind der roboter' played all together with this. Super!
That's amazing. Oh my gosh. I need to have this, too. :O
Oh wow I just got to the 'music' track bit, my 465 is getting a work out tomorrow.
Thanks for this, it's fantastic. I can see (I think) why you have to change the coordinates to xy, as I imagine that the bottom screen is lr?
Even if not, I can at least begin to see how you can build the images up.
Now to somehow connect this up as a display to a computer
Much easier than you think if you know what you are doing
Fourier series are so beautiful
I think they used effects like these in FUTUREWORLD, STAR TREK: The Motion Picture, and UFO: Target Earth - - all from the 1970's
that was awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess you could use an XY laser (galvo) scanner/projector instead of an XY oscilloscope? Might have to try running the Shrooms album/music through LSX or something :) Might need a low pass filter to reduce the complexity though as I don't think 40K galvos could keep up.
Great and thanks a lot for this video. MAy I ask what the name of the music track is at the end?
It's called "Shrooms".
I’m geeking and tripping out all at once! Lol
I LOVE IT!!!! I got to build my own!
Awesome, thanks.
Thanks for sharing, that was nice :)
"We want our mushroom to move, just like in real life"
Damn, takes me back to working in a test equipment calibration Lab, dread to think how many hours i wasted trying to get the most interesting non sinusoidal waveform on my Scope.
...Makes me wonder: Is the Universe, and everything in it, just a song? Considering the duality of most particles that make up matter, I've wondered if LOTR and Silmarillion weren't a little closer to the mark than we may think - or than Tolkien intended.
Brandon Taitano nikola tesla said the earth has a frequency I believe.
Superstring/M theory suggests pretty much that. In that in it, every elementary particle is given to be a loop/membrane of, I guess 'energy', oscillating in 11 dimensions. The frequency determines what flavour of particle it is.
I had to buy a copy of this after watching it.
WOW! Amazing
I wonder if it would be possible to replace the scope with speakers with mirrors attached and point a laser at them?
Jump to 12:13 for marijuana leaf.
makes sense because the track is about drugs.