Proximity Voice Chat in Horror Games

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    Today we study two horror games, Phasmophobia and In Silence, that have approached their multiplayer voice chat in a unique way, to ensure it promotes both cooperation and a good looming feeling of tension!
    Thanks to Wolfgang for helping me with this script!
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  • @-FutureTaken-
    @-FutureTaken- ปีที่แล้ว +6843

    Just a small note, Phasmophobia also uses absence of action, but not nearly to the degree of In Silence. Talking while a ghost is hunting will let the ghost know where you are

    • @tformerdude6788
      @tformerdude6788 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Exactly.

    • @Blue_Razor_
      @Blue_Razor_ ปีที่แล้ว +507

      Also when the ghost is near you, you can ONLY use the proximity voice chat as your walkie talkie gets disabled.

    • @mozarteanchaos
      @mozarteanchaos ปีที่แล้ว +92

      tbf, this is noted in the video!

    • @Psyko_Monk3y
      @Psyko_Monk3y ปีที่แล้ว +71

      May I re-direct you to 3:54

    • @LavaSaver
      @LavaSaver ปีที่แล้ว +43

      He literally mentioned this in the video.

  • @cormacmcg1232
    @cormacmcg1232 ปีที่แล้ว +9352

    Scruffy has such a naturally soothing voice that he could talk about the most horrifying games and id never be scared

    • @adamel-sawaf4045
      @adamel-sawaf4045 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Yeah I love his voice it’s so good! His audio quality is always amazing, his mic is a big reason why his voice sounds so good.

    • @jacobchavez9315
      @jacobchavez9315 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      On the contrary - his calming voice when hes talking about the sound design of FNAF is unsettling

    • @cakennedy09
      @cakennedy09 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fr bro

    • @cakennedy09
      @cakennedy09 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jacobchavez9315 true

    • @otesunki
      @otesunki ปีที่แล้ว

      agreed!!!!!!

  • @hootsy3754
    @hootsy3754 ปีที่แล้ว +1935

    Just the horror of hearing your friend whisper “hey i found something come here” and turning the corner to see them laying dead on the ground with a massive monster turning to you and playing the same “hey i found something come here” and sprinting at you

    • @SheepUndefined
      @SheepUndefined ปีที่แล้ว +217

      Strong "Hey, who turned out the lights" energy lmao. I love it.

    • @sagefurry
      @sagefurry ปีที่แล้ว +42

      that kinda reminds me of nothing there from lobotomy corporation

    • @randomtexanguy9563
      @randomtexanguy9563 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      If only 939 in the new Mimicry update was actually this terrifying. The game is just goofy fun in general.

    • @Whiteythereaper
      @Whiteythereaper ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@SheepUndefined *spacesuit shuffling intensifies*

    • @spaceybunny00007
      @spaceybunny00007 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I’m now just imagining your friend going “hey I found something come here” and the something being their body

  • @elvna
    @elvna ปีที่แล้ว +4349

    surprised you didnt mention that when a hunt/significant event is ongoing in phasmophobia, the radios are useless. not only because talking leads the ghost to you but because when the button is held down all thats sent to other players is static.
    they can still talk to you over the radio if they are in a safe position, but in your final moments you can only shout information, as using the radio would just be stagic, and hope they can hear it through walls if you know you are about to die.

    • @roxwize
      @roxwize ปีที่แล้ว +237

      i havent played phasmophobia before but that sounds downright terrifying

    • @Leon3789
      @Leon3789 ปีที่แล้ว +132

      If I recall correctly awhile ago they changed that, where as during a hunt it the radios used to be completely useless, last time I played they were still usable during the hunt *unless* the ghost was close to you, which might have been why it wasn't mentioned in the video.

    • @elvna
      @elvna ปีที่แล้ว +86

      @@Leon3789 correct but 90% of the time the ghost is close enough to you that it is static, and you dont really want to talk anyways cause that'll alert it to you

    • @Psyko_Monk3y
      @Psyko_Monk3y ปีที่แล้ว +6

      May I re-direct you to 3:54?

    • @elvna
      @elvna ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Psyko_Monk3y this doesnt mention radios during the hunt

  • @__8120
    @__8120 ปีที่แล้ว +3919

    That voice clip idea was insidious. I love it. Before the game starts each player could pre-record themselves saying specific messages, and then only be able to use those to communicate in game, obviously seriously limiting the effectiveness of the voice chat, but by allowing the monster to fully use all of the players recorded clips, they become indistinguishable from the player they took over

    • @Brass319
      @Brass319 ปีที่แล้ว +357

      What's interesting is something similar is already done in Team Fortress 2, where while disguised all of your voice commands appear to the enemy team as if the person you're disguised as said it. Of course, because tf2 has global voice chat, an observant player could quickly shout "spy as me" over the microphone as soon as they notice it, but when they don't it can be quite fun to use the "Help!", "Medic!" and even "Sentry ahead!" voice commands while disguised to trick them into walking right past you to deal with some other threat (that doesn't actually exist) or trick them into healing you. In fact, the "Medic!" voice command's bubble above your head loosely indicating what percentage of health your at matches your disguise, so if you disguise as a low-health player it becomes even more convincing.

    • @glacity
      @glacity ปีที่แล้ว +129

      I feel like maybe the game could just record whenever somebody’s mic activates and they say a certain set of keywords like “Hey” “Hello?” “Is anybody here?” etc. Phas has some speech recognition like that in it, I’m sure another spooky game could do that and then yoink those clips for the monster to use.

    • @no-lifenoah7861
      @no-lifenoah7861 ปีที่แล้ว +157

      I LOVE this idea. But how would you balance the experience of people who take the game seriously with people who put every single one of thier voice clips with the word **BALLS** at high volume? Of course the sheer comedic value of that probably would give the game a big enough boost anyway.

    • @nts0n
      @nts0n ปีที่แล้ว +18

      W-w- wha- w-what's th- wha- ther-there's no secrets over here?

    • @lorenzoniccoli99ln
      @lorenzoniccoli99ln ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Then what's the point of it being a "voice" chat?

  • @maybeitsgabriel3035
    @maybeitsgabriel3035 ปีที่แล้ว +3148

    I absolutely love Scruffy’s “Hello!” at the beginning. It’s just so friendly! And, as always, fantastic vid!

    • @SofieArts
      @SofieArts ปีที่แล้ว +12

      And he always does it in the same pitch/tone/whatever, but it's probably always the same clip so
      except in this video

    • @notNyxiann
      @notNyxiann ปีที่แล้ว +1

      agreed

    • @Seacat17
      @Seacat17 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yay :3

    • @ThatRandomGamer_Main
      @ThatRandomGamer_Main ปีที่แล้ว

      Reminds me of Stampy lol.

    • @ziegenkrauler.
      @ziegenkrauler. ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just Found him cuz of the Algorithmen now im happy

  • @HappyHyena
    @HappyHyena 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    Lethal Company out here taking the cake with proximity voice chat

  • @CardScientist
    @CardScientist ปีที่แล้ว +203

    Another thing that makes Proxy voice so terrifying, even in single player horror games, is that in normal horror games, you can scream in terror with no consequence. The monster cannot hear you. With Proxy chat on, even in a single player horror game, the monster can hear you, and you have to force yourself to stay quiet when you might otherwise scream. Every sound you make makes you paranoid that the monster just heard you and will be able to find you

    • @speeder3235
      @speeder3235 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Some single player horror games *do* utilize your mic so you actually need to stay quiet in certain points.
      I can't name the examples off the top of my head but they're certainly out there.

    • @Esmeraldmel
      @Esmeraldmel ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@speeder3235 Alien Isolation does, if I recall correctly

    • @johnnodwarf1201
      @johnnodwarf1201 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Esmeraldmel Only the console edition, PC version doesn't.

    • @BubbaJohnson-lw9ur
      @BubbaJohnson-lw9ur 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Esmeraldmel and fears to fathom

  • @Sevastous
    @Sevastous 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Lethal company now is an S tier application of the sound design

  • @gaming_bigfoot
    @gaming_bigfoot ปีที่แล้ว +498

    Phasmophobia with VR, being able to move things around in real-time while a ghost, gives _a lot_ more capability to communicate to teammates

    • @bobert3230
      @bobert3230 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      yeah lol i was talking by pointing with a mug at different letters on the keyboard

    • @gaming_bigfoot
      @gaming_bigfoot ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@bobert3230 Might be better to use something thin like a knife for that, but I know that's not always an option
      I usually go for spelling out letters in midair since it can be done just about anywhere

    • @Humancatpost
      @Humancatpost ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Unfortunately 90% of the VR players in phasmophobia are completely useless and die immediately

  • @geg5274
    @geg5274 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    4:53 i like how his glasses went from [ ] to { } when he became a ghost lol

  • @Jonloo1
    @Jonloo1 ปีที่แล้ว +909

    I'm always delighted to see Scruffy's avatar on-screen, it's so lovely to see it interact with whatever world to better showcase what he's talking about.

    • @ari638
      @ari638 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I think it's adorable, love his simple little avatar dude and it's fluid animation

    • @Jonloo1
      @Jonloo1 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@ari638 That and he just has a really nice design, tying to the whole music thing he does. I really want to draw this little guy and put him in things, but for that last bit I should probably ask for permission first.

    • @SonicMaster519
      @SonicMaster519 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Eh, it’s alright. I’m not a big fan of it but the design is clever and either way his videos are amazing!

  • @itsturtlefacemydudes
    @itsturtlefacemydudes ปีที่แล้ว +71

    The VC in Phasmophobia honestly adds a lot of fear, I can't tell you how many times I've seen someone get trapped in a room or in the building as they're leaving and it turns into them frantically screaming through the walls, sometimes it can end up comical, but even more it can end up super scary. There's this particular group that played it not that long ago where they were leaving and one of the members got stuck in the house, screaming their head off as another frantically tried to shout instructions on where to hide through the wall, but as they ran from the ghost, it got fainter, and fainter... Until, outside, the screaming stopped. And when they went back inside, they found them dead at the bottom of the stairs, and it was terrifying.

  • @PixelCherries
    @PixelCherries ปีที่แล้ว +652

    Omg I love how you process the sound at 3:57 so much. Having the scary strings swell up but then distorting it so it sounds like it has a low-bitrate/compressed sounds so cool and creative, as if the player character got reduced to ghostly remains of themselves.
    Great video as always

    • @olliemango
      @olliemango ปีที่แล้ว +12

      thats actually what happens when you die in the game!

    • @maxmeepmeep991
      @maxmeepmeep991 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Got pixelated

  • @NGenzlingz
    @NGenzlingz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Coming back to this video this makes me think about lethal company in a much deeper way than I initially did. Speaking of, lethal company is very fun.

  • @Cel684
    @Cel684 ปีที่แล้ว +1002

    Always a joy when Scruffy uploads. So fun to learn about sound design in video games and horror especially and when it comes from Scruffy it’s even better

  • @conjim5706
    @conjim5706 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    that voice clip idea is something another asymmetric coop survival horror (SCP Secret Laboratory) is going to implement soon as part of the voice mimicking doggy SCP's rework. people can opt out, but if they opt in, the SCP gets the last few seconds of the victims proximity chat to use as an ability, able to throw it out as a lure, or to scare players away from a certain route or room, in order to ambush the humans better. Cool concept.

    • @Titanic-wo6bq
      @Titanic-wo6bq 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Here after the 939 revamp, and the feature is still cool.

    • @bigloser5104
      @bigloser5104 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Titanic-wo6bqThe problem is that since 90% of the SL fanbase are shitposters then they'll say some shit like "I LIKE MEN!" before they die, not saying that's a downside, hell its an upside to be roaming around playing "I LIKE MEN" over and over

    • @Titanic-wo6bq
      @Titanic-wo6bq หลายเดือนก่อน

      at least it's really funny.

  • @Daemonophobic
    @Daemonophobic ปีที่แล้ว +226

    I think a really nice medium between these two games is Forewarn, its essentially a phasmophobia clone but with mummies instead of ghosts. If a player gets killed by a trap, mummy, or spirit while searching a tomb, they have the choice of spectating or becoming a mummy to hunt the surviving players! The fun thing about coming back as a mummy is that the in-game mic will pitch shift your voice to make you seem more menacing. I’ve seen a couple streamers get jumpscared by their fallen teammates while playing, its a fun way to still implement proximity chat while not taking the player out of the experience!

    • @roryookane
      @roryookane ปีที่แล้ว +26

      For anyone searching, the title of that game is actually “Forewarned”.

    • @msbellebelle
      @msbellebelle ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I remember when neocranium played that game iirc, and pretty much started pole dancing right in front of his ex-teammates while calling himself a "bad mummy"
      That bit never fails to make me laugh

  • @redwood34
    @redwood34 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    I only got into Phasmo recently and it's seriously so fun. Another thing that make that game's proximity so fun is what happens when the ghost is near you while hunting. In real life it's rumored that ghosts take electric energy from items around them in order to be powerful, so when the ghost is hunting near you your items will be interfered with. Your flashlight will blink in and out, your emf reader will go off the fritz, and your wallow talkie will turn to static. Anyone in the range of the ghost can neither hear teammates output nor can their teammates hear there's. But, the other teammates can communicate over the walkie talkie as long as they're far enough away from the ghost. To me this adds another layer of fear, the fact you can hear a teammate setting off static and know they're either being chased down or killed is horrifying, especially when you consider all other teammates are in safety.

  • @Pigeonfan0
    @Pigeonfan0 ปีที่แล้ว +310

    The most soothing voice to make a video about horror games

  • @Iteration456-8_codename_goblin
    @Iteration456-8_codename_goblin ปีที่แล้ว +80

    There’s something hilarious about knowing your trapped in a small restricting space with an unknowable aberration
    and suddenly hearing your friend scream like a goblin because they angered the monster😂

  • @sirpeach6468
    @sirpeach6468 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    This reminds me of SCP secret lab. Namely, the dogs (SCP-939). The dogs cannot see you unless they touch you, hear your running, or use voice chat. Due to the lack of other ways of communicating however, this is an excellent way for the player to get in their own head. Mostly forcing them to adapt. Another interesting thing is that the dogs can talk to players as well, which is mostly used either for memes, or tricking a player into believing they are a human on the other side of a door.

  • @hayond656
    @hayond656 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    2:48 I didn't even notice the lipsync for a second that's really cool

  • @PixelDough
    @PixelDough ปีที่แล้ว +134

    In Silence seems really cool, and yeah I definitely think there's a lot of potential with the monster being able to distract, confuse, or scare the players with voices

    • @whenshekeepssucking6916
      @whenshekeepssucking6916 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Honestly sounds like some Predator shit
      (God, I wish someone someone would make something like that… Probably too ambitious for a lot of game devs but just thinking about it makes it seem like the coolest thing ever)

    • @Unwelcomed
      @Unwelcomed ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Me and my friend played spongebob music as the monster when we were chasing each other

    • @NatLaS
      @NatLaS ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I once watched an In Silence stream where one of the players made horrifying, wailing noises while playing the Rake. So from the perspective of the other players, when they were trying to be as quiet as possible, they would hear those wails in the distance constantly. It was a pretty effective atmosphere!
      But most players don’t (or can’t) do that so Scruffy’s idea is really nice

    • @The4j1123
      @The4j1123 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NatLaS would you mind linking that if you can find it? I’d love to see it

    • @NatLaS
      @NatLaS ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@The4j1123 It’s in French with no subtitles and I linked you the edited stream recap with everyone’s POV (effect a bit ruined by the fact that 2 of the players kept laughing) the part I’m talking about is from 2:55 to 8:40 basically, the monster player is imitating Clickers from TLOU
      th-cam.com/video/Y5S01d02-qg/w-d-xo.html

  • @B-SideThrowaway
    @B-SideThrowaway ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Towards the end where Scruffy talks about the voice clips being awarded to the monster, SCP:SL (free to play multiplayer game where you can play as the SCPs) is giving one of the SCPs who can actually talk the ability to use voice clips of other players in the current game to trick other players!

  • @sep_timius
    @sep_timius ปีที่แล้ว +105

    I adore proximity voice chat! Me and my friends use a mod for it in minecraft, running past someone while their building and singing, or sneaking up on someone to scare them is a lot of fun.

  • @jag-hw7wd
    @jag-hw7wd ปีที่แล้ว +31

    7:47 That's actually an amazing idea. I hope someone over at Ravenhood Games sees this video so it may have the possibility of being implemented in the future. The fear factor would go way up if it was. Imagine this scenario: You and your group of friends are being chased by The Rake and one of your friend's splits off from the group as a distraction. They yell out: "Over here!" The Rake takes the bait and runs towards your friend out of view. The rest of you get away and after a few minutes, you all hear off in the distance: "Over here!" Chilling. Very SCP-939-esque.

    • @johnnodwarf1201
      @johnnodwarf1201 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You're probably aware, but the game SCP: Secret Laboratory very recently overhauled its 939. Not only is it a blind monster that can now only see sounds as red pulses, it has the ability to steal the voice samples of anyone it kills. Which, will usually be a good amount of people. Even better, one of its abilities allows it to lie in wait before insta-killing a careless player. Not only spooky, but it allows for some really nice voice samples

    • @SlurpyPie
      @SlurpyPie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When I make a horror game I'm definitely implementing something similar maybe having it that before hand every player has to record several lines of dialogue so when they die in the game the player playing the monster has a huge variety of dialogue making it so they could splice lines together to form certain sentences in order to manipulate and trick unsuspecting players that would be intense especially if you're unsure if your teammates are dead or not.

  • @craziestofsnorlaxes
    @craziestofsnorlaxes ปีที่แล้ว +67

    For those that don’t know, the music box at the end is from Phasmophobia! The song is called Adrift and plays when you use the music box item, something that can force the ghost to appear and walk towards the source of the music.

    • @robovelcro
      @robovelcro ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was just about to give up looking if someone had asked, because I KNEW it sounded familiar, when I saw this. Thank you so much!

    • @craziestofsnorlaxes
      @craziestofsnorlaxes ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robovelcro No problem!! Glad I could help!!

  • @jesusfilosofo6385
    @jesusfilosofo6385 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    about what you've said in 8:15, in SCP Secret Laboratory with the new implemented SCP 939 he is able of using its victims last sounds, and let me tell ya, is extremely effective!

  • @RetroCube
    @RetroCube ปีที่แล้ว +8

    8:00 it’s funny you mention this. I believe SCP Secret Laboratory is planning to do this with their 939 rework where you can play voices of dead people. Not really the same genre (the game itself) per say but I thought it was worth mentioning.

  • @mochasumi
    @mochasumi ปีที่แล้ว +140

    This came out fantastic! And I love the mention of the basketball event :) Definitely one of my favorite parts of our session!

  • @futureknight372
    @futureknight372 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    8:10 Scp:Secret Laboratory Is doing just that in a coming update. Quite Interesting, that you predicted that.

  • @hlibushok
    @hlibushok ปีที่แล้ว +6

    7:20 You know, I can make a pretty good evil laughter. So... If I ever buy this game and assemble 5 more people to play it...

  • @VeryLazyJack
    @VeryLazyJack 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    SCP: SL does the voice clip thing very well, as SCP-939 is almost exactly the same as the monster in "In Silence" as it can only really see sound, but when it kills people, it takes their last words and uses them to its advantage to lure other living people!

  • @fieldapple4428
    @fieldapple4428 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    7:35 OK but imagine you guys are all making a plan or something and then the monster sneaks up on your ass and joins in on the conversation basically right next to you all and no one realizes until he’s basically in the room with you guys, shit would go from 0-1000 in the matter of a fucking instant and it would be scary and hilarious as fuck

  • @Greenpixel16
    @Greenpixel16 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Scruffy's the only person I could trust to make a horror-themed video that I could actually watch. haha

  • @otesunki
    @otesunki ปีที่แล้ว +32

    2:05 it even pans to the right
    also your animations are so charming i can't help but smile even when you're talking about the most terrifying crap i've ever heard in my entire life

  • @plasmabasher
    @plasmabasher ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I’d love to see this concept combined with something like same-actor voice lines like in Deep Rock Galactic, especially how there’s an enemy called the Nemesis who lures Dwarves in by using their voicelines to make them think they’re a player who found something. If this was combined with a horror game (since DRG isn’t all that scary, unless you’re on Hazard 4 or higher I guess-) where your team has to split up to solve objectives and there’s a monster who can trick you with player voicelines, that would make a truly terrifying experience as players have to consider if the voice they’re hearing is from an ally, or a shapeshifter that wants to tear them apart. True horror lies in uncertainty.

  • @nitefurie.
    @nitefurie. ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My favorite instance of proximity voice chat horror games is easily SCP Secret Laboratory. Sure it may a little light on the horror aspect, but the voice chat is what makes the game fun in the first place. For a quick rundown of the game, there’s 3 types of roles. Escape roles, military roles, and SCPs (the monsters.) There are 2 different roles of each human class on opposing teams. Escape classes have to avoid the scps and opposing military class to reach the escape, while the military classes are tasked with killing the scps and eachother. The scps are simply tasked to kill everyone. Unlike the other games in this video, there’s no way for spectators to interact with living players, but they do respawn as one of the 2 military roles every so often. Now, back to the voice chat, there’s a short range you can hear people around you, but there’s still other ways to communicate. For example, much like phasmophobia, there’s radios that you communicate over. Also like phasmophobia, your voice is filtered to sound much more like talking over a real radio. However, the radios have drawbacks. You can only carry a few items, so you may have to chose between a radio or an extra medkit. Further, radios have range and battery. Setting your radio to a further range will increase the battery usage, so there’s still incentive to stay relatively together. Only one of two teams span with radios, however, there’s nothing stopping the other team from picking up a radio. There’s even an intercom that with a fairly lengthy cooldown, you can briefly project your voice to the whole game, with added filtering to sound as if you were actually talking over an intercom. scps have their own isolated global voice chat to talk to each other with, mainly for coordinating. The scps cannot talk to humans, with 2 exceptions. One scp can open, close and lock doors, making it very much a supporting role. However, in some locations there are speakers they can talk over. Your voice is heavily filtered while talking through them, but they can be a great tool to trick the human roles, or even get them to kill each other, leaving less work for the scp team. The other scp capable of talking to humans is designed with deception in mind. The scps footsteps sound _almost_ exactly like human footsteps, and they have the ability to use voice chat like any human can. This is heavily used to get people to open doors you can’t by pretending to be just a human without a keycard, or just to taunt people they chase. If it wasn’t for the voice chat, the game would quickly become boring and stale, but with it, the experience becomes something you can easily sink hundreds of hours into, despite the core gameplay being quite repetitive.

  • @mollyOS420
    @mollyOS420 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    7:15 I mean, it DOES work pretty well as a horror element, especially with friends. If you know someone is out to get you, and you suddenly hear them getting louder and closer (even, say, shouting something like "I SEE YOU" / "COME OVER HERE"), they'll be pretty terrified most of the time.
    They know where you are, and are actively approaching you and choose to state this information to you loud and clear. They're confident enough they can take you down, and probably will if you mess up.

  • @TrixxedHeart
    @TrixxedHeart ปีที่แล้ว +4

    7:05
    Listen I'm just saying, when I play SCP-939 in Secret Lab, I get the absolute loudest most panicked screaming from other players whenever I start yelling "HEWWO??? IS ANYWONE DER?"

  • @KarasuVex
    @KarasuVex ปีที่แล้ว +4

    7:55 SCP: Secret Laboratory has actually done the exact thing with SCP-939

  • @dabroom
    @dabroom ปีที่แล้ว +4

    5:33 he looks so happy

  • @Midrule
    @Midrule ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Something else you forgot was that during a hunt in Phasmo, your walkie talkie gets cut off completely until the hunt is over.

    • @HaydenManka
      @HaydenManka ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Not anymore, it's only when you're near the ghost now. It also tells the ghost where you are if it becomes glitchy

    • @snesmocha
      @snesmocha ปีที่แล้ว

      HI MIDRULE!!!!

    • @prodGhostly117
      @prodGhostly117 ปีที่แล้ว

      hi midrule

    • @Midrule
      @Midrule ปีที่แล้ว

      @@snesmocha hihIH!IH1!!!

    • @Midrule
      @Midrule ปีที่แล้ว

      @@prodGhostly117 hi!HIh!Ih!!!

  • @gddanielk8491
    @gddanielk8491 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Thank you for making horror videos that don’t contain jumpscares so we can enjoy your awesome videos! Scruffy is awesome.

    • @yankee_0013
      @yankee_0013 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I honestly don't know why youtubers do this, it's so fake and the jumpscares aren't even good, they're lame when the adrenaline wears off and it comes off as annoying

  • @Wallemations
    @Wallemations ปีที่แล้ว +46

    The In Silence section reminds me of the way that SCP-939 is handled in SCP: Secret Lab, another game with proximity chat.
    Playing as 939 makes everything black and white, but you can see players who make too much noise through walls. Further, while you walk your footsteps are entirely silent, and you're one of only two SCPs that can actually speak to the human players.
    While that game isn't as deep of a horror game as these are, I've definitely been scared because of a crafty 939 before, and the fact that it depends on the sound you make and is a little faster than you are makes hiding and running from it extremely tense.

    • @toasthead
      @toasthead ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought it was same speed as a running player unless wearing heavy armour?

    • @Firemancer
      @Firemancer ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@toasthead as SCP 939, you can both walk AND run, running makes noise though

    • @matthewjones39
      @matthewjones39 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      939 taught me to never open 914 unless there’s multiple voices on the other side.

  • @idobadjokes2830
    @idobadjokes2830 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2:26 that's pretty true but the game encourages you to go alone sometimes. Sometimes because of the type of ghost or because of the ghost communicator box.

  • @TheOnlyRaviol
    @TheOnlyRaviol ปีที่แล้ว +9

    my experience with phasmophobia is telling "give us a sign" in the main menu for half an hour, trying half a dozen work around the lack of speech recognition while cortana works like a charm, telling myself that i have better to do and that it was the devs that should have come with an assisted tool to find what is going wrong, uninstall and refund. great times.

    • @philkerman5108
      @philkerman5108 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's a great idea, and one I'm surprised they haven't implemented.

  • @WalrusNoodles
    @WalrusNoodles ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It’d be neat if you could use echolocation as the monster in “In Silence”…it would probably have to have a cooldown to prevent it from being too helpful, but the sound of the monster clicking or screeching would be audible to the human players and give them an idea of YOUR location as well. It’d definitely be more immersive than hearing the player’s voice through the monster.

  • @therickydoge1004
    @therickydoge1004 ปีที่แล้ว +2327

    When someone has a soundboard in phas its just horrendously more scary to hear a vine boom from upstairs
    Edit: Thats alotta likes holy fauci, gracias

    • @livi_bwop
      @livi_bwop ปีที่แล้ว +58

      LOLOL

    • @myrealusername2193
      @myrealusername2193 ปีที่แล้ว +164

      I can just imagine a creeper sound playing

    • @derpiderpi6761
      @derpiderpi6761 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I'd start running

    • @YuhHuhNuhUh
      @YuhHuhNuhUh ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Thanks you gave me a great idea

    • @westhepest
      @westhepest ปีที่แล้ว +21

      STOP 💀

  • @kertsicrusader140
    @kertsicrusader140 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    When he was talking about the possibility of a hunter/monster in a multiplayer horror game, did anyone think of how the predator did that in the original predator movie? Seems like a cool idea

  • @ltrpwd
    @ltrpwd ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Best part about In Silence is sneaking up to the group and playing the part of another survivor with a crucial info. “Hey dude, we need you to use your key in this house. Come to me.”

  • @orangefish0297
    @orangefish0297 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Another banger from Scruffy! These continue to always get better at conveying information in acreative way, always a treat!

  • @shadophaxx2401
    @shadophaxx2401 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    another great thing the prox chat does in phasmophobia is create tense moments where you hear the sounds of your friends screaming. Because not only is it a distant scream, meaning a person is in danger, its a voice thats familiar to you; a friend you care about being killed somewhere you can't see.
    its also fun when you hear someone panic over the radio before it abrubtly cuts off and leaves nothing but static. First time I played it I was yelling my friend's name over the radio, asking if they were ok, and eventually had to come to the realisation that I was now alone

  • @Lithobraker
    @Lithobraker ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This is mostly unrelated, but I just wanted to mention it- I've been playing Rain World recently, an unforgiving game with a big emphasis on atmosphere and immersion.
    It's probably a huge treasure trove of interesting sound design, so if there's any chance you'd cover it in the future, I would love that!
    Great video as always, Scruffy!

  • @garryhlambert
    @garryhlambert ปีที่แล้ว +10

    0:09 hello

  • @leadman7600
    @leadman7600 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The nice thing about Phasmophobia radio chat is that any audio during the hunt is replaced by static so unless there is a teammate in the other room screaming about getting chased while in normal chat

  • @huhneat1076
    @huhneat1076 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If a supernatural being came to me but spoke with Scruffy's voice I would be soothed more than scared

  • @goldencheeze
    @goldencheeze ปีที่แล้ว +3

    8:26
    Very creative approach. What if a horror game that used proximity VC would award the monster with more *common* words (using AI to detect phrases such as yes or no, and other common terms of the game in question)
    In a sense the player who is controlling the monster has a free soundboard to toy with them… or to just meme around.

  • @bongwater1856
    @bongwater1856 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I might just be high, but the high quality of your audio mixing is noticeable IMMEDIATELY when watching a video, love it every time.

  • @knufiitroller4893
    @knufiitroller4893 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Secret Laboratory does a great job with Proximity Voice-Chat, and SCP-939 actually can reuse the last words of the people he killed, in order to trick his teammates.

  • @15098D
    @15098D ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The game Forewarned (a lot like Phasmophobia) does something similar with radios and proximity chat. I’ve had times where my allies all die away from me and I end up wandering the tomb desperately searching for my friends

  • @DGS2605
    @DGS2605 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Best parts of Phas are when the ghost closes the doors and you're outside, just hearing the muffled screams of terror 😂😂😂

  • @treeee3023
    @treeee3023 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Friday the 13th The Game was one of my favorite horror games ever and it still is extremely scary and fun as hell. the voice proximity chat makes it so much more fun and immersive!!

    • @fuckitweball77
      @fuckitweball77 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I used to play that a lot with my friend group on lockdown , underrated game
      Better than DBD imo

  • @idavid8391
    @idavid8391 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A potential game concept--inspired by what Scruffy was discussing at the end of the video--would be to have two threats: a player controlling a monster, but pretending to be themselves, and a world threat that endangers anyone who uses proximity chat. The idea would be for the player-monster to be unable to speak, but instead having pre-recorded voice lures of other players to use. I think conceptually the game would have to encourage players to record their own voice authentically pre-gameplay by incentivizing the fact that the more convincing they sound, the better it will be if they're the monster.

  • @kirbymaster4813
    @kirbymaster4813 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As soon as I saw this vid, I knew you were gonna talk about Phasmophobia! I’ve been playing that game with friends recently, and the use of in-game voice chat is one of the many things about it I love. Distance between players affecting volume, the global chat being a walkie-talkie, and especially the fact that dead players can’t communicate with the living, increasing the tension as their voice cuts out and things get quieter! Never heard of In Silence, but it seems interesting, so maybe one day I’ll check it out. Great video as always!

  • @Alternateuniverse7157
    @Alternateuniverse7157 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another thing to note about phas is that while ghost is hunting all radio attempts become static so if your team has split up in a big building and the ghost starts hunting you have no idea who its hunting or where its hunting.

  • @Raizo_B.
    @Raizo_B. ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really like your art style. It's really unique how instead of a basic white backround, you use a black backround while using white outlines for your characters and drawings.

  • @graygrassneighbor8551
    @graygrassneighbor8551 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great vid as usual. my favorite use of proxy in a horror game is SCP secret lab.

  • @librus8680
    @librus8680 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ... A game where you could actually "steal" other players voices as a monster (much like the iconic Predator) would be fascinating as a concept. Finishing off someone who was separated from the group, them unaware that any future cries for help are just lures. I'm not sure how it'd work, of course, in technicality - but it's something I've seen done in other spooky settings before.
    In one of my more favorite games, Deep Rock Galactic, a co-op mining/shooting mission-based game, a recently added robotic enemy actually mimics the in-game character voices, giving out "I'm downed!" or "Come over here!" pre-recorded voice lines the little dwarven miners give out, all in hopes to draw them close, grab them, and finish them off by crushing them in it's sharp, metal claws. It's pretty easy to circumvent, of course: your teammates leave behind little markers in both cases to show you what they're pointing at (or a red outline to show you where their wounded body is), and the robot experiences little audio glitches to clue you in that it's an obvious trap. But it still threw me in for a loop the first time it happened, and I'd love to see more games play with player communication in-game to mess you up and/or ramp up the spooky factors...!

  • @KR_Kosmik
    @KR_Kosmik ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In SCP:secret lab, there is an scp which can communicate with the human team and can use that to trick them into doing things it normally can't like open doors

  • @mr_mcgilicuty5327
    @mr_mcgilicuty5327 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You should make a video about how Vr makes literally any horror game terrifying, even in phasmaphobia with voice chat, you're so immersed you get the sense that your actually ghost hunting with your team and one mistake could mean your life.

  • @superdot9513
    @superdot9513 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    7:50 this is actually such an awesome idea and i hope someone tries this in the future

  • @Extractor1907
    @Extractor1907 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Something I love about proximity voice chat is that you can spook your friends too, when the tension is high you can always go in for the scare and not only you get to hear the scream, you get to poke at them and ease the nerves for a bit, it's quite handy for games that require certain skill and they have thoughts clouded by fear, or something else entirely...

  • @TheHelsinkiForager
    @TheHelsinkiForager 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A good example of the recorded clips feature is definitely SCP: Secret Laboratory, as you can choose what clips to use and organize them, it is great. My most memorable experience was when I flashbanged SCP 939 and said "THINK FAST CHUCKLENUTS", and then got absolutely slaughtered. About 5 minutes later I was spectating the monster and looking at my phone, when suddenly I got jumpscared by my own voice going "THINK FAST CHUCKLENUTS" as it burst through a door and destroyed everyone inside a room. Amazing.

  • @andreworders7305
    @andreworders7305 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    3:00 the receiver doesn’t also need a walk-in talkie?

  • @oreothefur
    @oreothefur ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can't get over these videos, really.
    After watching them plenty of times already, every single time they pop up in my suggested videos, i have to watch them.
    They're just so well done, they explain things so well while also making you feel like it's the first time you see the video, it's like watching them just fills me with ideas, I would love to use them someway!
    Thanks Scruffy, you make wondeful videos!

  • @bumbabees
    @bumbabees ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've watched playthroughs of both Phasmophobia and In Silence before and it's kind of fascinating to see normally funny videos get unnaturally spooky at times. proximity chat is so fun to me and it really opens up a lot of possibilities for multiplayer horror games.

  • @CommanderNoob
    @CommanderNoob ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You're so effective in teaching people on the subtle but amazing mechanics of horror games. Thank you, and good work.

  • @neb6616
    @neb6616 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your videos always have so much care and attention put into the sound and graphic design. You can really tell it's what you love and I love it too

  • @masterboa6321
    @masterboa6321 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just got an idea. A coop horror game in which the monster can record your voice and use it as a TTS, you need to spot the flaws in its system.

  • @likelyjakkass
    @likelyjakkass ปีที่แล้ว +1

    clicked on the vid imagining it'd be a well made joke using clips of people screaming at the top of their lungs on a gmod horror map before sprinting down a hallway at mach speed in absolute terror, turns out it was a really, REALLY well made documentary on a surprisingly underused game mechanic. this is cool as hell

  • @doomcardten1799
    @doomcardten1799 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SCP Secret Laboratory also has a great example of Proximity Voice chat.
    All humans have proximity voice chat, and certain factions of humans have walkie-talkies which they can use to communicate with each other but those have limited battery. There's also a broadcast room which can be used by any humans to briefly talk to everyone in the facility with a long recharge.
    On the other hand, the monsters have a voice chat that only they can hear, but isn't limited by proximity. And one kind of monster can speak like a person, which is useful because the roles are randomized at the beginning of each round so you don't know who's a monster, or even if the monster that can speak like a person is even in the round.

  • @cloveruty
    @cloveruty ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Here's something you could've added to the video that also would've been cool to see.
    There's a mod for Among Us called the "Crew-Link" mod, which adds proximity chat to Among Us. It's interesting as while it prevents the absence of information for the crewmates, it also allows the imposters to lie, deceive, and get alibies better in between meetings. Of course, during a meeting, everyone is in normal voice chat as you'd expect.
    There are two things however that the mod can do which is a great idea. First, the Communications sabotage disables Voice chat entirely for the living, preventing crewmates from communicating.
    Additionally, there is a toggleable setting that allows Imposters to hear dead players. This allows for ghosts to muddy and polish the information an Imposter has. Dead crewmates can distract the imposter or tell them false information, and dead Imposters can help their teammates with information like "Will is alone in Decontamination, go kill him there", or "Alex is heading over to Security, don't kill just yet."

  • @comradebusman3
    @comradebusman3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s always a happy day when scruffy uploads! Even when the subject matter is scary, his videos are soothing to the soul, and the art is beautiful

  • @KaneyoriHK
    @KaneyoriHK ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of my favorite things is when I'm outside and can hear my friend's muffled screaming from behind the door. It's both hilarious and fills me with dread.

  • @AshwickGrove
    @AshwickGrove ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got this randomly recommended, and it was so expertly crafted from the audio, visuals and the script itself. Great video in general, really liked this! Great narration as well! :)

  • @subiugetur
    @subiugetur ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Scruffys videos are always pure joy, such high quality content.

  • @TheRatLiker
    @TheRatLiker ปีที่แล้ว +4

    6:54 Best Part No Cap

  • @thepizzaman8064
    @thepizzaman8064 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A game used the idea you mentioned. Scp Secret Lab made an update to one of it's Scp's, 939.
    It's a blind Scp that relies on audio to navigate and hunt players. Now when they kill a player, they gain the last four seconds of their audio that they can use to lure players out of hiding places.

  • @benniboi7231
    @benniboi7231 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude I gotta say your videogame quirk/soundtrack analyses are so very interesting. I love them so much, the detail that developers go to to make a dynamic game is often unnoticed, and you do an amazing job showing them off. Thanks, and please don't stop anytime soon!

  • @navyshark2286
    @navyshark2286 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love how you don't use game footage. and that you have a very distinct art style.
    It pairs well with your amazing voice keep it up.

  • @arsonistnpc
    @arsonistnpc ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i LOVE how scruffy's horror-themed videos (and even the spookified intro) arent october-only things. halloween- and the "spooky season" in general- are my favorite things ever and i love seeing horror-themed stuff outside of the general area you'd expect to see them! It's like coming across a dollar on the ground- hey, it might not seem like much, but it's still a pretty good find!

  • @DesignFrameCaseStudies
    @DesignFrameCaseStudies ปีที่แล้ว

    Your ideas for future voice chat games are absolutely fascinating. I would LOVE being able to use voice clips from other players. Yet another great video man. Awesome editing work too. I'm impressed.

  • @glacity
    @glacity ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like proximity voice chat is one of the best recent additions to co-op video games. Ik it’s actually been around for a while, but it’s becoming much more common place to find in bigger titles. It opens up so much room for terrifying concepts and it’s extremely immersive.

  • @keefplayz7867
    @keefplayz7867 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    7:58 SCP secret lab has done this with SCP 939, which is cool and neat :)

    • @untitled_59
      @untitled_59 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yea it is cool

  • @vitotorres1743
    @vitotorres1743 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:26 a feature coming to scp secret lab!!

  • @AidenTheAviator
    @AidenTheAviator 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In recent times. Lethal Company has done the same thing with Proxy chat and it makes the game so much more immersive and enjoyable. It does more a less the same thing as Phasmophobia.

  • @chrisgarrett6305
    @chrisgarrett6305 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love how proximity chat can completely change horror games in whatever way the player wants. It can make games absolutely terrifying, by having you have to be completely silent, or can make them hilarious (if you want them to be) while playing with friends. Playing horror games but not being serious with them can be one of the most amusing things to do with friends.

  • @alexanderyt4610
    @alexanderyt4610 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    This voice chat sistem is quite interesting.
    Especially when you're a ghost, you could scare your teammates