There are some good explanations of draft control on the internet. Here is one quick explanation I found on a discussion board: "Draft doesn't mean depth. It means pulling force, as in "draft horse." It doesn't know the depth. It knows/senses the pressure at the forward end of the top link. When a plow hits resistance, the top link increases forward pressure, and the hydraulics raise it a bit so the resistance decreases, then it lowers the plow after passing the resistance. It tries to keep the pressure constant at the sensor mechanism". So to say, in your application, when the blade fills a little bit too much, the draft control senses it and lift a little bit the blade to let go some gravel. Then lower back when the draft is reduced. My 2 cents is slower on a hard surface, especially when the blade bounces. As fast as you wish on soft material!
Ok do the levers need set , lever down for more or up for less ?? I need info for my bushhog . A ford 2000, 3000 has a float lever . I miss this feature on my 5500 Mahindra.
Thanks for the explanation & demo of draft control so that ordinary guys - like me - can understand. It seems to function like floating mode in your loader, unless I’m way off.
Hank, you are at a good speed moving grounded material, draft control is perfect for this application with a box blade which will give you a specific height off the ground to spread material, cut high spots, and using the carrying material to fill low spots, etc. If you were spreading loads of material, then you could speed up and raise you draft control if you wanted to spread a thicker layer of material over a larger area, or length, such as your driveway. Have been spreading material for the last 40 years plus with a 9N, and will be moving towards a Mahindra late this summer. Good Job, good videos Hank, thanks for reaching out to people who are new to working tractors and equipment.
While draft may assist as prescribed in this video, I believe FLOAT is what would be best used in this instance. Here’s why… Draft will RAISE a 3pt ground engaging implement (such as a chisel plow or moldboard plow) when it senses resistance (based on the draft setting; more draft is more sensitive to resistance) to reduce and/or minimize resistance on the tractor, as occurs when using a GROUND ENGAGING implement . When draft senses the resistance has lessened (due to draft having RAISED the implement, per above) then it’ll LOWER the implement back down to original depth. Many people do this manually by raising and lowering the implement when they sense the implement is experiencing too much resistance, which can be heard by sound of the engine and speed of the tractor slowing down due to resistance when moving across ground that’s harder to plow, after which they lower the implement back down. Draft does this raising and lowering automatically. Float on the other hand allows the implement to “float” up and down, whereby the weight of the implement is what provides the down pressure instead of the hydraulics of the 3pt. By doing so, float will allow an implement follow the contour of the surface for NON-GROUND ENGAGING implements. This is beneficial when using a box blade, rear blade, or land plane to ensure the implement is always in contact with the ground, as might not occur when there’s not enough down pressure from hydraulics (since without float the implement follows the plane of the tractor), without digging too deeply, as would occur when there’s too much down pressure from hydraulics.
@@SeaPro360 my tractors have multiple hydraulic remotes (sets of hydraulic hoses). Some remotes offer float (when engaged as such, usually by pushing past forward position), as detailed in my response above. When not using float, hydraulics can absolutely provide down pressure (beyond the weight of the implement)… which is how/why a rear blade, box blade, or other similar ground engaging implements will dig. I do believe we’re (mostly) saying the same thing though, as what you call depth I’m referring to as down pressure. The reason I differentiate is because when using tillage equipment you’re using hydraulics to set depth, not down pressure.
Of course front functions (bucket) provide down force. But the wedge shape combined with forward motion is what pulls plows in the ground (and weight). The draft control senses an increase in drag and raises the implement if hard ground is encountered, the thing I have to do by hand on my little tractor. Rear down pressure by the tractor would lift up on the rear tires and cause you to lose traction. I have a ton to learn, thanks for helping.
Thanks for explaining the draft control. My old blue tractor has that and I've never used it. I'll have to hook the box blade up to it rather than the Kubota next time and see how it does. Cheers!
Great video Hank! The box blade sure is a good tool to have around! I think the speed all depends on the condition of your project and the comfort of the operator. I sure enjoy watching that Mahindra work :) take care Hank!
I always graded a gravel driveway after a decent rain, it makes the job so much easier. Any pothole needs to be dug out below the depth of the pothole, or it will return within 2 weeks. So, I would drop those digging teeth and scour that driveway up to below the deepest pothole, setting the draft control at the depth of the deepest pothole. I get a good year out of my driveway with this method.
That did a nice job. Our New Holland doesn't have draft control, only position. I had some trouble trying to work our driveway, but it's been neglected for years, so it needs a lot of rework. Plus all the rain doesn't help.
Nice job Hank. For me I have 3 ranges with 4 gears in each range. I would grade that in 2nd range and 3rd gear. On the Mahindra 4540 I would be in low range 3rd gear. Just my 2 cents. Blessings my friend. Mark.
I want to get a box or a landplane. It's hot extremely hot here. It got to me a bit today prepping for this storm! Nice job with the draft control. The drive way came out nice! Have a good one Hank!!
2 very different implements. For a driveway or to level an area, the plane is hard to beat. The box blade is a more versatile implement. If you can afford both, get them.
Nice video. A box blade is some of the best money I've ever spent. I have a Massey Ferguson 283 with a 8 speed and I usually run it in 5th @ around 1200 rpm with the box blade. Your driveway looks good. Now it's time for a nice layer of gravel on top. If I get any ruts in the gravel, I just jack the front of the box blade up so I'm only smoothing it out with the back blade.
Hank I understand her new car sitting lower is dragging on the crown of the driveway, but you also do not want water stand on the driveway. If water becomes an issue, try to widen your driveway where she can drive with one tire on the crown. She should not have to be on the very top of the crown, but on the incline of it. But the drive may nerd to be widened for this to work. Good luck.
Vietnam Vet, I like using teeth to loosen gravel first. Land Pride box scraper 7 teeth, 72" wide and 851 lbs. Got a Kubota L4701 with tip/tilt and hydraulic scraper teeth. Don't need to get off seat to crown or level driveway, just raise teeth then lift left or right side of box scraper to crown. I take care or neighbors driveways. I see you have double grab teeth on your grapple, I have found a single 30" three tooth grapple in center with solid bottom works best for me, plus it cuts down on weight with 1100 pound grapples.
That’s not what the draft control is for. It’s for when you’re plowing or scraping you set it to raise at a certain pressure on top link to raise implement just before wheel spin.
I don’t know about a box blade, but on my motor grader 3mph is just right for cutting, carrying and filling. I would imagine the box blade is probably run best about the same speed. Definitely don’t want to go to fast.
I wish you could have went a little more indepth on what each lever controlled and mabe give some possible settings for other Implements. I have a Mahindra 4500 All i know is the red lever makes it go up and down!!
Love the videos man ! Thanks For all the great content . I’ll be getting my Kubota grand L3560 in April with a la805 Loader , front 64” snow blower with mid pto kit and … a land pride 72” box grader ! I have watched a lot of your videos and taken a lot in from what you’ve shown with different implements ! I am kinda interested in that adjustable back blade ! That was a cool video
@@HamiltonvilleFarm am right there with u but what I've learned has been off of your channel but if I find out something that works good what ever it might be I'll let you know but I still have alot to learn lol
From what I understand draft control really plays a role with the mold board plows where as you go along the digging action tends to want to pull the plow downward more and draft control is supposedly supposed to help with keeping straight.
Draft control has little do do with keeping it down, while that is exactly what it does, if that makes sense. It’s designed to keep a constant engine load, especially when working with a mouldboard plow. It’s nice on a blade too. Take a look here for a good explanation. manuals.deere.com/omview/OMAL213126_19/?tM=HO and scroll down and look for the hitch section and about five down is using draft control. That’ll help you.
You referred to Mahindra Tractor Owners - USA. I have requested to join Mahindra Tractor Owners - USA, two times with no response. What is going on??? I have owned a Mahindra XL28 Max since 2013!
Stanley, to join you are prompted with questions about Mahindra ownership, There are 2 questions and they give you 24 hours to answer both questions. So, try again and make sure you submit answers to both questions to join and submit the answers within 24 hours. Hope this helps. It's a great community!
@@HamiltonvilleFarm Yes sir it don't. I also had a problem last Saturday with my 1626. I was brush hogging and all of a sudden my tractor went to idol speed and would not reeve up. I limped to the shed and shut it off. I cranked it back up and it was back to normal. Got me kinda worried about it.
FROM HAMILTONVILLE FARM you want to keep the crown off the driveway but you don't want it shadow on the sides great the rain in Grabill we'll start moving over to the grass
You might want to check out Tractor Mikes video on Box Blade driveway repair for what it's worth [ th-cam.com/video/HozFLzn5UdY/w-d-xo.html ]. Hope this is helpful to you.
thanks! I watch a ton of Mike's videos. He's a great teacher. One day i'll be as proficient as he is. lol. Thanks for the comment. Hope you have a great weekend. .
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Love working with this Mahindra tractor! Getting lots of work done.
There are some good explanations of draft control on the internet. Here is one quick explanation I found on a discussion board: "Draft doesn't mean depth. It means pulling force, as in "draft horse."
It doesn't know the depth. It knows/senses the pressure at the forward end of the top link. When a plow hits resistance, the top link increases forward pressure, and the hydraulics raise it a bit so the resistance decreases, then it lowers the plow after passing the resistance. It tries to keep the pressure constant at the sensor mechanism". So to say, in your application, when the blade fills a little bit too much, the draft control senses it and lift a little bit the blade to let go some gravel. Then lower back when the draft is reduced. My 2 cents is slower on a hard surface, especially when the blade bounces. As fast as you wish on soft material!
Such a good input. Thanks for that. Great explanation 👍
Best I've heard yet
Awesome explanation thank you...
Yup you NAILED it brother! Gotta love those Draft horses ;)
Ok do the levers need set , lever down for more or up for less ?? I need info for my bushhog . A ford 2000, 3000 has a float lever . I miss this feature on my 5500 Mahindra.
Thanks for the explanation & demo of draft control so that ordinary guys - like me - can understand. It seems to function like floating mode in your loader, unless I’m way off.
You answered a question I have had for a long time about using draft control with a blade.
Love the draft control on my International. Box blade and york rake mandatory implements for anyone with a decent size driveway.
Yes sir. I agree. Thanks for stopping by
Hank, you are at a good speed moving grounded material, draft control is perfect for this application with a box blade which will give you a specific height off the ground to spread material, cut high spots, and using the carrying material to fill low spots, etc. If you were spreading loads of material, then you could speed up and raise you draft control if you wanted to spread a thicker layer of material over a larger area, or length, such as your driveway. Have been spreading material for the last 40 years plus with a 9N, and will be moving towards a Mahindra late this summer. Good Job, good videos Hank, thanks for reaching out to people who are new to working tractors and equipment.
Thank you for that. I appreciate the feedback. I'll be thinking of this next time I spread👍
I start out slow and speed up the smoother the road gets. I enjoy your videos
Right on!
While draft may assist as prescribed in this video, I believe FLOAT is what would be best used in this instance. Here’s why…
Draft will RAISE a 3pt ground engaging implement (such as a chisel plow or moldboard plow) when it senses resistance (based on the draft setting; more draft is more sensitive to resistance) to reduce and/or minimize resistance on the tractor, as occurs when using a GROUND ENGAGING implement .
When draft senses the resistance has lessened (due to draft having RAISED the implement, per above) then it’ll LOWER the implement back down to original depth.
Many people do this manually by raising and lowering the implement when they sense the implement is experiencing too much resistance, which can be heard by sound of the engine and speed of the tractor slowing down due to resistance when moving across ground that’s harder to plow, after which they lower the implement back down. Draft does this raising and lowering automatically.
Float on the other hand allows the implement to “float” up and down, whereby the weight of the implement is what provides the down pressure instead of the hydraulics of the 3pt.
By doing so, float will allow an implement follow the contour of the surface for NON-GROUND ENGAGING implements. This is beneficial when using a box blade, rear blade, or land plane to ensure the implement is always in contact with the ground, as might not occur when there’s not enough down pressure from hydraulics (since without float the implement follows the plane of the tractor), without digging too deeply, as would occur when there’s too much down pressure from hydraulics.
Rear hydraulics don't add down pressure. Only lift or control depth. It won't actually push down, but it will give the implement all its weight.
@@SeaPro360 my tractors have multiple hydraulic remotes (sets of hydraulic hoses). Some remotes offer float (when engaged as such, usually by pushing past forward position), as detailed in my response above. When not using float, hydraulics can absolutely provide down pressure (beyond the weight of the implement)… which is how/why a rear blade, box blade, or other similar ground engaging implements will dig. I do believe we’re (mostly) saying the same thing though, as what you call depth I’m referring to as down pressure. The reason I differentiate is because when using tillage equipment you’re using hydraulics to set depth, not down pressure.
Of course front functions (bucket) provide down force. But the wedge shape combined with forward motion is what pulls plows in the ground (and weight). The draft control senses an increase in drag and raises the implement if hard ground is encountered, the thing I have to do by hand on my little tractor. Rear down pressure by the tractor would lift up on the rear tires and cause you to lose traction. I have a ton to learn, thanks for helping.
Thanks for explaining the draft control. My old blue tractor has that and I've never used it. I'll have to hook the box blade up to it rather than the Kubota next time and see how it does. Cheers!
You bet. Thanks for watching. I appreciate the support.
Nice job my tractor has draft control but I never understood it completely thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching. I'm learning as I go. Lol. Hopefully we all get better as we get more seat time 👍
Hey rookie! Another implement you have that I want lol. Looks like it did a great job buddy! 👍🚜
I hear ya! i need about 100 more implements and Ill be set!
Great video Hank! The box blade sure is a good tool to have around! I think the speed all depends on the condition of your project and the comfort of the operator. I sure enjoy watching that Mahindra work :) take care Hank!
Thanks dave👍
It's good that you show this. 💕😍👍👫👨👦👦👨👩👧👧
Thanks for watching. I appreciate the feedback 👍
Thanks for the video. I wasted a whole summer working with my TYM 55hp without knowing how to use the draft. Now I know. Haha.
I always graded a gravel driveway after a decent rain, it makes the job so much easier. Any pothole needs to be dug out below the depth of the pothole, or it will return within 2 weeks. So, I would drop those digging teeth and scour that driveway up to below the deepest pothole, setting the draft control at the depth of the deepest pothole. I get a good year out of my driveway with this method.
Good call Robert👍
do you have a video that shows how to use draft control? im new at this and have a TYM t494 and a medium box blade. thanks barney
That did a nice job. Our New Holland doesn't have draft control, only position. I had some trouble trying to work our driveway, but it's been neglected for years, so it needs a lot of rework. Plus all the rain doesn't help.
I hear ya. Thanks for the comment Bryon
Nice job Hank. For me I have 3 ranges with 4 gears in each range. I would grade that in 2nd range and 3rd gear. On the Mahindra 4540 I would be in low range 3rd gear. Just my 2 cents. Blessings my friend. Mark.
Thanks Mark. I appreciate the tip. I got a lot to learn👍
Great info!! My neighbors use draft (horse) control...they're Amish. HAHA!! Just joking around!! Thanks for sharing!! 👍
Thanks buddy. Learning everyday.
I want to get a box or a landplane. It's hot extremely hot here. It got to me a bit today prepping for this storm! Nice job with the draft control. The drive way came out nice! Have a good one Hank!!
Be safe friend👍
I sure will!! lol Thanks Tony!!
2 very different implements. For a driveway or to level an area, the plane is hard to beat. The box blade is a more versatile implement. If you can afford both, get them.
Nice video. A box blade is some of the best money I've ever spent. I have a Massey Ferguson 283 with a 8 speed and I usually run it in 5th @ around 1200 rpm with the box blade. Your driveway looks good. Now it's time for a nice layer of gravel on top. If I get any ruts in the gravel, I just jack the front of the box blade up so I'm only smoothing it out with the back blade.
👍👍
looks like a fun day.
Thanks Dave. Always fun to practice tractor stuff😁
The box blade did a nice job on your driveway. I need one.
They are a very handy piece of equipment
Looks good what hole do you have your top link in thank you
So, on the draft control, to you line the draft lever up with the highth control?
Hank I understand her new car sitting lower is dragging on the crown of the driveway, but you also do not want water stand on the driveway. If water becomes an issue, try to widen your driveway where she can drive with one tire on the crown. She should not have to be on the very top of the crown, but on the incline of it. But the drive may nerd to be widened for this to work. Good luck.
Thanks Coy. We need to get it done right. Eventually I'll need to add gravel or more dirt. Thanks buddy👍
1.5 - 2 mph
You are no longer rookie on the Mahindra in my book. Great tips
Thanks man. I appreciate all your support. It means a lot to us
@@HamiltonvilleFarm i don't know what i am watching but you make it look interesting and fun
Slower the better! Keep up the good work Hankà
Thank you. It definitely seems like you have more control that way👍
Been wondering about draft control with a box blade. You had a locking lever up on your Quick Hitch! Good video thanks!
Yeah I saw that after I edited. I had put a camera there to get a different shot and forgot to put it back down😳
woo-hoo, tractor in action
Yes sir👍
Vietnam Vet, I like using teeth to loosen gravel first. Land Pride box scraper 7 teeth, 72" wide and 851 lbs. Got a Kubota L4701 with tip/tilt and hydraulic scraper teeth. Don't need to get off seat to crown or level driveway, just raise teeth then lift left or right side of box scraper to crown. I take care or neighbors driveways. I see you have double grab teeth on your grapple, I have found a single 30" three tooth grapple in center with solid bottom works best for me, plus it cuts down on weight with 1100 pound grapples.
Right on! Weight matters!
Is Draft Control the same thing as "float"?
DLH Farms says most people do it too slow. I agree. A relatively quick pass needs to be made. Not fast by any means though, just stay on the gas.
Yeah, I like DLH videos
Great video my friend
Thanks buddy👍
I run mine in first gear high just above an idle. The blade skips over the top of the driveway the faster you go. Slower = less trips.
That’s not what the draft control is for. It’s for when you’re plowing or scraping you set it to raise at a certain pressure on top link to raise implement just before wheel spin.
It was either knock down the crown or put a lift on her car with 44” gumbo mudders right?
Lol. That will go over well😂😂
I don’t know about a box blade, but on my motor grader 3mph is just right for cutting, carrying and filling. I would imagine the box blade is probably run best about the same speed. Definitely don’t want to go to fast.
Yeah I hear ya
What size is that box blade?
Operating tip: you can operate as fast as your thinking. If you are thinking slow don't operate fast. Speed will come with time.
Good point. Never thought of it that way 👍 thanks Joe.
Looks good
Thanks man!
I wish you could have went a little more indepth on what each lever controlled and mabe give some possible settings for other Implements. I have a Mahindra 4500
All i know is the red lever makes it go up and down!!
Thanks for watching 👍
Well said Scott
Know what keeps you even cooler than a canopy ? A CAB WITH AC
That’s a fact jack!
Love the videos man ! Thanks
For all the great content . I’ll be getting my
Kubota grand L3560 in April with a la805
Loader , front 64” snow blower with mid pto kit and … a land pride 72” box grader ! I have watched a lot of your videos and taken a lot in from what you’ve shown with different implements ! I am kinda interested in that adjustable back blade ! That was a cool video
Great video explaining draft control. I just hope you provided Gina a dusk mask. I think your speed was good.
Lol. She's a trooper 👍
I normally do second gear, 3 is a little to fast for me.
Yeah,makes sense. I gotta find that sweet spot. Thanks for the comment👍
I got a Massey Ferguson 231 n it has allot of power
I'm trying to find the same thing out and I don't know much about the draft control at all
I'm just a rookie. I'm sure I'm messing up somewhere. Lol
@@HamiltonvilleFarm am right there with u but what I've learned has been off of your channel but if I find out something that works good what ever it might be I'll let you know but I still have alot to learn lol
From what I understand draft control really plays a role with the mold board plows where as you go along the digging action tends to want to pull the plow downward more and draft control is supposedly supposed to help with keeping straight.
@@pennylessplantation thank u for sharing that info I'll have to try that
@@kevindearmon1309 👍
Box blade vs grader blade ?
I like box blade more
Same. I feel like you can do so much more with a box blade. 👍
Draft control has little do do with keeping it down, while that is exactly what it does, if that makes sense. It’s designed to keep a constant engine load, especially when working with a mouldboard plow. It’s nice on a blade too. Take a look here for a good explanation. manuals.deere.com/omview/OMAL213126_19/?tM=HO and scroll down and look for the hitch section and about five down is using draft control. That’ll help you.
Thanks for the link👍 I love how people are helping me and others with this information. I appreciate it!
You referred to Mahindra Tractor Owners - USA. I have requested to join Mahindra Tractor Owners - USA, two times with no response. What is going on??? I have owned a Mahindra XL28 Max since 2013!
Let me see what I can do.
Stanley, to join you are prompted with questions about Mahindra ownership, There are 2 questions and they give you 24 hours to answer both questions. So, try again and make sure you submit answers to both questions to join and submit the answers within 24 hours. Hope this helps. It's a great community!
intro music is a quite a bit loud compared to your talking, maybe increase the volume of your voice or turn down the intro volume in editing
I had a small MF tractor that had the float on the back emplaments and like it. The Mahindra 1626 does not have it.
Interesting. i did not know that.
@@HamiltonvilleFarm Yes sir it don't. I also had a problem last Saturday with my 1626. I was brush hogging and all of a sudden my tractor went to idol speed and would not reeve up. I limped to the shed and shut it off. I cranked it back up and it was back to normal. Got me kinda worried about it.
Keep us posted. Hopefully it was just a fluke👍
@@HamiltonvilleFarm I will do that. Thanks for another great video.
FROM HAMILTONVILLE FARM you want to keep the crown off the driveway but you don't want it shadow on the sides great the rain in Grabill we'll start moving over to the grass
Thanks Tim. Good comment 👍
Fast enough, but still slow enough to control the box blade if corrections need to be made.
Thanks for watching
Never heard of draft control. My 1526 does not have that
Im trying to learn all the features. I have a long way to go 👍
You might want to check out Tractor Mikes video on Box Blade driveway repair for what it's worth [ th-cam.com/video/HozFLzn5UdY/w-d-xo.html ].
Hope this is helpful to you.
thanks! I watch a ton of Mike's videos. He's a great teacher. One day i'll be as proficient as he is. lol. Thanks for the comment. Hope you have a great weekend. .
At 4;03 one of the safety levers on your quick hitch is up,dummy!
You used a ; in your timestamp instead of a : ....and you didn't put a space between "up,dummy". Dummy!
Slow