Lol great matches, that Ken fight though haha! She is one of my favorite characters too. I hope they make a storm collectables figure of her so I can create some stop motion animations of her
fans: so losing health fills a meter that, when half full, lets you regain health? capcom: yes fans: doesnt that mean infinite health? capcom: look makin games is hard >:(
You know Gen’s ultra where he makes his opponent lose health, but in white life and they’re ok as long as they don’t get hit? Elena’s ultra should be like that, she gains the white health, but is vulnerable to losing it if she gets tagged while it recovers.
I don't know man. It would be a shitty ultra, because you would have to be much more defensive and you could not be hit by any way. It would be a shitty ultra. When she heals 100% you still have the recovery of the healing
@@pianomaker7610 You could increase the amount she heals to balance it out, either way, it would be better than what she has now and the fairest way of solving the issue
The heal should be a super instead of an Ultra. Now you're choosing between having all your tools or spending 4 bars on a heal. Immediately fixes the problem.
Its not weird at all. A lot of people still play this game regularly and there is a very active community. I think people enjoy the videos becuase you can't see stuff like this in sfv
@@SFOGhost lol funny too because I was actually considering picking her up since she's one of the like 6 or 7 characters in the game I don't know how to play. Her and Yun are 2 of the big ones I need to learn
All right, what the hell was the Ken player even doing? He practically set that up for you. I'd love for someone to define the term "broken" for me, because I hear it used for every little thing.
I will share some of the reasons she is broken. Healing, unreactable overhead that can combo, stupid good buttons, weird hitbox. The healing alone makes her top 5
@@Frostbite12211983 Broken can mean quite a bit, especially when development fails characters like her, DJ and early edition Yun and Seth. It can mean janky design or something deliberately OP, a tool too fast to react to or a tool to slow to be viable. The examples define that brokenness better than simply having an offhand definition, especially since it's better when explaining to just tell someone why something is bad rather than try to define the inherently loaded term for a point of easy reference, especially in games where it overlaps between jank and true strengths
@@chrispythemostfriedchicken6010 I've never used terms like "broken" or "overpowered." I've always seen them as buzzwords that're used incredibly loosely.
@@Frostbite12211983 Sometimes they are. But not with things like Vortex City, pre patch bugs, damage and OP characters like Yun, Seth, Akuma and Cammy, a lot of stuff. And since it's mostly used for titles to make em snappy, people try to just give the examples of what it is they mean when they say, "broken" or OP
I think that if they swapped Healing with Spinning Beat, it would essentially fix her. Gets rid of the whole recycling revenge gauge and forces a choice between using an EX.Mallet Smash or saving the meter for super.
@General Tozen BD serves as a good juggle Ultra while having good fireball invincibility from midrange. SB could cover that last part better, a good punish and antifireball Ultra.
Alternatively they could cut the healing down in half, and force you to get full animation without the ability to cancel. So the benefit is very small and you're committed every use. People would get much less oppertunity to safely do it or lose more health than they gain, so they would use it 2-3x much less often. And with how low the actual health gain would be unless they had full ultra, it would barely make a difference. And with it scaled down to half, even with full ultra, it still would barely make a difference. But swapping ultra with super doesn't sound like a bad idea. People be like "but why would you pick it over the other ultra? So what if you don't. Almost half the cast at least has 1 ultra you use 100% of the time over the other. (Balrog/Honda immediately come to mind.)
We did not need combos. I think we only need unvincible EX DP and anti projectiles Rhino Horn. I really do not like this version of Elena she feels so weird. I want a more 3s looking version in sf6.
bro 1:44 is the most insane shit ive ever seen in my life that was the hardest read I have ever seen
It was crazy man, I can't believe he chased me down!
That's what I came into the comments to say. What a read
1:44 nah that chasedown into demon was gas
2:32 Brazilian Ken real
That Ken scrub mashing SO hard made laugh more than I should xD
Was that the perfect flowchart ken or what?
Yo I just subbed to your channel Love your content bro so entertaining
Thanks 👻
@@SFOGhost No Problem man keep up the good work
That victory dance at the end is so fucking funny!! It is the same animation when you complete one level of her trial.
My heart broke when E. Ryu landed that Demon and she heals it all back. God that must feel awful.
Lmfao bruh that Ken match im dying
Lol great matches, that Ken fight though haha! She is one of my favorite characters too. I hope they make a storm collectables figure of her so I can create some stop motion animations of her
fans: so losing health fills a meter that, when half full, lets you regain health?
capcom: yes
fans: doesnt that mean infinite health?
capcom: look makin games is hard >:(
1:15 how fitting his profile picture is gouken
You know Gen’s ultra where he makes his opponent lose health, but in white life and they’re ok as long as they don’t get hit?
Elena’s ultra should be like that, she gains the white health, but is vulnerable to losing it if she gets tagged while it recovers.
I don't know man. It would be a shitty ultra, because you would have to be much more defensive and you could not be hit by any way. It would be a shitty ultra. When she heals 100% you still have the recovery of the healing
@@pianomaker7610 You could increase the amount she heals to balance it out, either way, it would be better than what she has now and the fairest way of solving the issue
The heal should be a super instead of an Ultra. Now you're choosing between having all your tools or spending 4 bars on a heal.
Immediately fixes the problem.
@@TurboNemesis it is a good option, but It would be a trash super, so the ultra like this, it is better the way it is now
@@TurboNemesis and also she is a character that needs bar for mixups and setups..
Bruh the easy skankin' at the end 🤣
😂
Characters who are usually hard to read are the ones who are borderline overpowered .....
1:29 Watching her heal after that conversion is straight pain🚩😭
2:30 So Americans are mastering the art of Brazilian Ken 🤡
1:02 Smug: Why’d ya do that
It’s weird this game has faded quite a few years already but we’re those guys who still love this game and see this channel
Its not weird at all. A lot of people still play this game regularly and there is a very active community. I think people enjoy the videos becuase you can't see stuff like this in sfv
I got rusty at this game and need to re-learn it. Sf4 is kinda it's own game, same for sf5.
Elena is top tier in usf4
Yeah she is in a tier by herself, stupid character lol. Nobody even plays her anymore, we are gentlemen 👻
@@SFOGhost lol funny too because I was actually considering picking her up since she's one of the like 6 or 7 characters in the game I don't know how to play. Her and Yun are 2 of the big ones I need to learn
LMAO @ 00:33 🤣🤣🤣
In my opinion all the ultra characters are broken
Imagine Capcom going back to SF4 real quick just to nerf Elena.
Viewer request. Can you do Zangief please
2:59 she deserves all polygons she can get
All right, what the hell was the Ken player even doing? He practically set that up for you. I'd love for someone to define the term "broken" for me, because I hear it used for every little thing.
I will share some of the reasons she is broken. Healing, unreactable overhead that can combo, stupid good buttons, weird hitbox. The healing alone makes her top 5
@@SFOGhost I asked for a definition, not examples.
@@Frostbite12211983 Broken can mean quite a bit, especially when development fails characters like her, DJ and early edition Yun and Seth.
It can mean janky design or something deliberately OP, a tool too fast to react to or a tool to slow to be viable.
The examples define that brokenness better than simply having an offhand definition, especially since it's better when explaining to just tell someone why something is bad rather than try to define the inherently loaded term for a point of easy reference, especially in games where it overlaps between jank and true strengths
@@chrispythemostfriedchicken6010 I've never used terms like "broken" or "overpowered." I've always seen them as buzzwords that're used incredibly loosely.
@@Frostbite12211983 Sometimes they are.
But not with things like Vortex City, pre patch bugs, damage and OP characters like Yun, Seth, Akuma and Cammy, a lot of stuff.
And since it's mostly used for titles to make em snappy, people try to just give the examples of what it is they mean when they say, "broken" or OP
Loves Elena
she cute tho
Anybody who saw the Evo Finals with gamerbee knows that. And how boring she is to watch.
That freddy got fingered reference.
Who thought it was a good idea to give Elena a heal ultra?
Because she's directly translated from her first appearance in 3 ._.
It's better off as her super instead.
She back
execution is the biggest barrier if you wanna pick elena.. also damage is not super great
Not even exaggerating; she ruined the game both as a player and a spectator.
She is very strong definitely. Her DP is amazing too so you have to respect the wake up. I think U1 is very under utilized though
well U2 is the best ultra in the game
I think that if they swapped Healing with Spinning Beat, it would essentially fix her. Gets rid of the whole recycling revenge gauge and forces a choice between using an EX.Mallet Smash or saving the meter for super.
Very true. But what would be the incentive to pick Spinning Beat over Brave Dance or vice versa?
That or not letting her build extra Ultra Meter.
@General Tozen BD serves as a good juggle Ultra while having good fireball invincibility from midrange. SB could cover that last part better, a good punish and antifireball Ultra.
@@glawrk2861 An Ultra covering a weakness she doesn't have. Feels like you'd never pick SB ;(
Alternatively they could cut the healing down in half, and force you to get full animation without the ability to cancel. So the benefit is very small and you're committed every use. People would get much less oppertunity to safely do it or lose more health than they gain, so they would use it 2-3x much less often. And with how low the actual health gain would be unless they had full ultra, it would barely make a difference. And with it scaled down to half, even with full ultra, it still would barely make a difference.
But swapping ultra with super doesn't sound like a bad idea. People be like "but why would you pick it over the other ultra? So what if you don't. Almost half the cast at least has 1 ultra you use 100% of the time over the other. (Balrog/Honda immediately come to mind.)
that ken tho
Am I too slow on Rhino Horn into U1?
It only works on T hawk I believe. It isn't that tight so you should get it with some practice
I'd be so butthurt if I was that Ken at the end hahaha I'd take 2 weeks off from this game, minimum
Absolutely
Lol she's "fair" xD
Healing should have been her super and not an ultra. That way you couldn't abuse it by being able to use it once or twice per round.
I ♥ ELENA!
One if my favorite matches of all time.. Gamerbee's Elena vs Infiltration
This is my first ever thumbs down to a youtube comment 👎
We did not need combos. I think we only need unvincible EX DP and anti projectiles Rhino Horn. I really do not like this version of Elena she feels so weird. I want a more 3s looking version in sf6.
No we don't want elena in sf6 🤡
@@SFOGhostElena is here! 😭
Yun and Yang best characters in game in my opinion
They were back in AE. When ultra came out, yun was nearly top tier. Yang was mid tier at best.
My main on site fighter would probably ken
@@putozeros Even when they were, people barely played Yang. It's unfortunate. I always preferred his super over Yun's.
@@Tet3.08 Noice
@@Breeze06 sakonoko played yang since day one...