Style Select: Capoeira in Fighting Games
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Here in South America Eddy Gordo from Tekken was a Hero. He legitimately was the person little kids like me wanted to be when grow up. I remember around year 2000 when I was 6 years old and talk to some other kids about who was our "Idol" Eddy was the answer of many and when playing Tekken (pretending to be the characters, not playing the videogame) we all wanted to be Eddy
why representation matters.
thats so awesome
@@fistpump64 *Why GOOD, RESPECTFUL representation matters.
Specify.
@@theazurehawk310 lol no one cares about "representation" in Brasil, no one dislikes Blanka and the dude is clearly exagerating - Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is by far much much more popular than capoeira. P.S - I am also Brazilian.
@@rublaj eh, I dunno, in some arcades I've been people were mostly indifferent to Blanka, an a lil' few even disliked him (not 'cause he was supposed to be represent Brazil) but I NEVER seen ANYONE that was even neutral on Eddy Gordo. Everyone loved him.
Also Brazilian, here.
É nóis. 👍
Just to add a little more context to Capoeira's history, and the whole "is it a martial art?", people often forget that not all martial arts are created equal, most martial arts were developed thinking on battlefields and such, capoeira was developed with the focus more on ambushes and surprise attacks, where the opponent would, and often had, an upper hand in the form of weapons and equipment, that's why capoeira has so many attacks coming from low angles for example, sometimes the slaves would literally be on the ground and they would have to make a surprise attack on whoever was upstanding close to them. It is a martial art focused on confusing enemies with it's movement and attacking from unorthodox directions, it is not a martial art meant for direct open combat like the most well known ones
@Ronald Drump Absolutely true. Something that every martial arts teacher I’ve learned from has stressed is that when you’re in a fight defending yourself, no singular style is going to cover you. You do what you need to, you fight dirty and you train as many techniques as you can to see what works for you individually, that’s part of the “art” in martial arts.
Also, try not to put anyone in a hold on the streets. It’s good to learn grappling so that you can break/reverse holds, or maybe disarm or de-escalate a threat, but as a grappler, your greatest enemy is a dollar store box-cutter. Be safe out there, and don’t do any technique that prevents you from escaping/running away at the earliest opportunity
When you think about how genius slaves with no education could devise such eloquent a martial art! Blows my mind! 🤯
@@oosmanbeekawootrial and error. Those who developed “poor” new techniques would find themselves captured by the slavers while those who had “good” developments would end up passing those techniques down. Overtime, the stuff that worked were layered together
For a similar - though less extreme - example, "karate" literally translates to "empty hand" and was designed by the people of Okinawa as a means of self-defense against the invading Japanese, who banned the people of the island from possessing any form of weapon. There were "weapons" used in some forms of karate, but they're all improvised farming tools, not actual weapons designed for the job. There's evidence that nunchaku were originally such a tool which was adapted for combat rather than intentionally designed for it. And a lot of the techniques in karate are designed to take away that advantage weapons give, including by relying on approaching the opponent with the appearance of civility before initiating grappling techniques while too close for the opponent's weapon to be of great use.
Most modern karate school teach Japanese karate, which was a modified form of the art which the Japanese used as a counterpart to boxing, which had been imported from the West.
Yeah, they would fight specially against people armed with sticks. That is why fighting from the ground with your head away and kicking while dodging is such a big part of it all.
I fucking LOVE how 90% of Brazilian characters in videogames are the embodiment of their flag: Eddy, Lucio, Blanka, Laura, Rikuo, etc. The only one that is the exception, is Jetstream Sam, and I feel it elevates him higher. He's such an interesting and complex character, depicting him as another Brazilian flag inspired goon would be a disservice.
in defense of the other characters, we do love our colored clothes over here. so it makes sense they wold use colorful designs as well. also, even though we LOVE to badmouth our country, we also kinda love it, and love the fact we are brazilians, we love to share part of our culture with others, just look at ANY video talking about anything even remotely brazillian and you will find ALOT of comments coming from Brazilians.
so yeah, it kinda makes sense that their design are very flag inspired.
Giovanna from Guilty Gear Strive is also a bit of an exception, even though not as much as Sam.
@@Barracuda5055 Gio somewhat embodies our color by his wolf and "dragon install-ish" super
Also, i am effin STOKED to see that Gio was brazilian, i didnt know what about that until i saw her move names and her mentioning Iguaçu.
@@Barracuda5055 Giovanna only exists because Daisuke wanted to name a move Sepultura.
@@assassinonprozac that's not the worst reason I can think of
1:44 the Elden Ring footage to visually explain the odds the Quilombo warriors faced was a nice detail!
The Knight would be using a fucking musket instead of a spear tho
Also, I gotta say, it can't be understated how Eddy's mere existence helped immensely to popularize capoeira in Brazil itself. Like, overnight, there was a massive surge of capoeira schools everywhere here.
I was born in 2002 and did some capoeira in school and thinking that it might have been an option because of a Tekken character is hilarious
Videogames, son. That's it.
@@ricardoludwig4787 That is Bullshit... School in São Paulo's states had Capoeira even before you were born. EARLY than 1998, in special in Middle year "Vacation".
This guy is Just "overhypping" Tekken's power, which was also never that big in Brazil... Not like Street Fighter or The King of Fighter in mid/late 1990s.
Just ask your father/uncles and relatives.
{Eddy makes a splash in a 1997 video game}
“Welp! Cat’s outta the bag, I might as well get paid for my barehanded lethality.” -instructors all over Brazil, probably
{Eddy makes a splash in a 1997 video game}
“Welp! Cat’s outta the bag, I might as well get paid for my barehanded lethality.” -instructors all over Brazil, probably
As Brazilian I commend your bravery into the world of Brazilian words, but holy shit the pronounciation of those moves had me in stitches
perdi tudo com o the benção
@@goddamnjoe EU TAMBÉM!!! KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
was pretty good considering that english do every single vowel sound diferent
@@goddamnjoe The Bentchau foi de fude demais
@@goddamnjoe KKKKK o cara pareceu que tava falando uma palavra chinesa
In Tekken 8, they iterated on the moves and re-did all the mocap for the coming Eddie Gordo DLC character.
The capoeirista who did the motion capture for Eddie in T8 ... only got into capoeira because of playing Eddie Gordo in a Tekken Gane almost 20 years earlier. Full circle. :)
For those who may be hungering for more capoeira action, there's a martial arts manga called Batuque which features capoeira as the main style.
Ye
Thank you friend, you are a friend
This manga is so detailed in it's explanation and artwork that for last 3 years I have been able to learn capoeira from the information in this manga series. I've gotten so good that my kicks generate enough power and friction that I have burned holes in the soles of at least two different pairs of shoes. I had to buy a new pair today to replace my last set.
@@Echoes_OfficialDAMN
Thank you
By the way, about the "practice of roda", "roda" just means "wheel" or "circle", so "roda de capoeira" is just a "capoeira circle" because people form an actual circle in it.
Huh, same as in Malay. I wonder if we adopted it when uh, certain people stopped by or if it went the other way
Edit: Roda is Wheel. Bulat is Circle
I knew Roda had to mean circle or Circular.
@@HazeEmry might be from slaves/traders from brazil
@@KeikaZ Nope, from main Portugal itself. They colonised the Malay archipelago for a hot minute. Now we have a few Portuguese loan words.
@@KeikaZ No, it is a simple portuguse word, it just means wheel, "Roda de carro" = Car wheel
Car= Carro
De = conective word
Roda = Wheel
As a Brazilian, I appreciate the effort in the pronunciation of Portuguese words and the context you gave about part of my country's history. You guys are amazing
Bentchau
Is it true you guys tried to feed a carrot to a bus? Like you guys think the bus is some kind of oxen?
@@galvanizedgnome what?
What the frick are you talking about?
@@galvanizedgnomewhat?
Esse cara merece o selo de aprovação pelo português dele
I knew about the history of Capoeira but I was away of how effective it was against the Portuguese government. These testamonies are the kind of thing you'd hear in a martial arts movie and thing "yeah right", the fact that an actual governor said that is insane.
in this case let me tell you this: When Brasil start a war against Paraguay, the central goverment put capoeiristas on the army with the promisse that they are gonna be free men if they return alive
The Portuguese were trained to fight with weapons other armed opponents, sword fights are usually quite static and the moves are known, but capoeira is fast movements varied and something the Portuguese had never seen, also the Portuguese have to take the slave alive is like some random guy trying to immobilize a jui-jitsu fighter, you also have the theory that several capoeiristas fought with blades on their feet and hands, so they were armed and very well trained.
But for a hand to hand combat with other good fighter capoeira is not that good, i'm Portuguese and capoeira is quite famous here when one of them has to face muay tay or kickboxing they dont last much.
@@matraquilhochumbo352Eu acho que realmente depende do lutador. Pesquisando no TH-cam você acha uma quantidade considerável de vídeos de capoeiristas nocauteando o adversário relativamente rápido. Não considero regra mas também não acho que seja exceção.
Fun Fact: The person playing the capoeira fighter in "The Protector" at 7:17 also played Eddy Gordo in the 2009 Tekken Movie! His name is Lateef Crowder
Fun Fact: Elena was originally going to be from Brazil. But when Sean was changed from being American to being Brazilian, Elena was changed to be from Kenya.
IDK why that happened. Would've made more sense that way, honestly.
Oh so thats why he plays baskett ball instead of football now l get it
@@RJMazz47 It's the Vega -> M. Bison -> Balrog -> Vega all over again, lol
Elena beat eddy by a few months but yet gets no love smh
@@trappestarrgaming3422 you forget that streets 3 was a flop at the time and tekken 3 was huge people bought playstations just to play that game
Never knew the origin of this style, so hearing that it survived for so long when it was taught in a very limited way speaks volumes to the longevity of Eddy Gordo. Absolute icon for such an iconic style.
The longevity of the make believe character? Or the hearts of the men and women who passed it down from generation to the next?
@Elijah Nakumura both. With the internet age, lots of information is more freely available, so this isn't a knock at the efforts of the IRL people behind this style. Appreciation of the research behind the game, and enjoyment to learn more through my introduction of this style from the character.
As a brazillian and capoeira fighter for about 10 years, I must to thanks for your clip and excellent work on our history.
There's just one complaint I have about many popular portrayals of capoeira. They actually leave out the very integral grappling and upper body based striking methods that tie the whole thing together as a system of self defense. I could also say that they neglect to describe how for much of it's history, traditional capoeira was quite brutal and actually included weapons. It's sort of like how people forget that Tai Chi Quan, the actual martial art, frequently resembles many more direct striking arts in it's techniques when executed properly. I know this is about capoeira in fighting games and fighting games tend to emphasize the more flashy side of any style shown to make playing it more fun and frankly, I don't think most people would want to play out a completely "realistic" street fight, but it always bothers me when people leave some of this stuff out.
I've also wondered if they used Machete fencing and stick fighting in Capoeira, I'm not positive, but it was common practice in many arts practiced and nutured around the region during revolts.
Most martial arts have more brutal moves if you go back far enough. They've mostly been adapted for tournament fighting these days.
@@seanwilliams7655 Which I can't stand as a history buff
@@mackdegale6606 Yes wrought of sugar cane which hurts so bad
Nah fam, Taijiquan looks more like w
Wrestling or no jacket Shuai Jiao when done properly. It did had a lot of strikes but it is mainly grappling.
Then there's Capoeira which like you said, was kinda heavy in grappling and weapon work. But those parts of the art seem to have been lost to time...
A Druken Capoeira master where I lived (Bahia) was notorius for getting into street fights, I heard a story about how he took 2 man down at bar putting one in a crutch for months... the moves may be fancy but the kicks are no joke, they throw all their wheight into them
Man, that is a story
i've always assumed the reason capoeiristas dont hit each other during sparring is because it would be too dangerous
@@eriktippie978 Key word here being "Too". I have sparred when i practiced Karate, im not brave enough to do the same with capoeira.
@@eusouocarameuirmao that's not a good reason, you can spar without alway putting full force into your kicks, no matter what the kick. Your average Muy Thai fighters kicks harder than ur average capoeira practitioner I guarantee, and they spar constantly. If you don't have tons of practice landing a technique in sparring against resisting opponents, im sorry but you don't know how to use it, which is why the majority a capoeira fighters can't fight. If you've never hit someone in the head with your spinning wheel kick, you probably aren't going to land it for the first time in an actual fight.
@@eriktippie978 I can guarantee you that they are physically incapable of putting as much force into a kick as someone who brings it all the way around their bodies while lowering their center of gravity. Whether that is worth being turned completely around for a short but possibly expolitable moment while fighting someone is a different matter.
Eddy Gordo.
...
That's it That's my opener.
Honestly That's all you need, Eddy is without a doubt the best Representation of this great Brazilian Art form. People say he's Bad in the meta, I say, "You're Playing him wrong."
Also, I'm having a Hard time deciding what I wanna see next. They all sound good.
People say that he is bad because he is lol.
Eddy is weird in 7 because he rewards defensive play alot. He also has the best backdash in the game.
He'a a knowledge check. What holds Eddy back the most is that his "good" moves and launchers are super unsafe off neutral so its harder to be proactive with Eddy since he's relatively easy to dickpunch during a string.
@@godofpharts there are lots of problems with him.
the game heavily rewards and encourages you doing big wall carry, thanks to new screw mechanics, then flowcharting the game afterward.
but eddy's combo structure is not for it.
he does nice damage without wall actually, yet his wallcarry potential is awful.
as his main combo fillers push both characters to sideway, not in straight line.
yes you are going away from the wall as you do more hits.
and this is the one of his many flaws.
Eddy on good old Tekken 3 was unstoppable.
He didn't age very well on later games, though.
@@danilolabbate He was not good in T3 either. People just had no idea how to play and died to mashing.
I'm disappointed that the flash game series Capoeira Fighter wasn't mention. Its a fighting game series where every character does just Capoeira. Its gives a nod to the diversity and various flavors the style has to offer. As for future styles I would say Muay Thai but I'm interested in any of them.
Not technically true because there's a shaolin monk, a Cobra Kai apprentice, a Scottish brawler, and quite a few more non Capoeira characters in it, at least on the 3rd game
@@tedjomuljono3052 Yeah I didn't know that until I started looking for it. But from what I can tell those are all unlockable character.
Oh shit, I forgot that game.
Loved that game
Fantastic game, and sequel. They were supposed to do a 3rd game in 3d but ran out of funding
Eddy made me practice Capoeira. Yeah, i'm brazilian, and here, in Bahia, one of our states, Capoeira It's something we've been in touch with since forever. But much more like a dance, in "Roda" . It was Tekken that showed me the offensive side, and made me want to train.
I love the picks for your next potential episode. No obvious winner whatsoever and that's as it should be.
I feel like Jeet Kun Do is the obvious winner there, but I’d love to see Muy Thai.
defnitly gonna be jeet kun do
I actually thought jeet kun do had been done already 😅 wasn't till I checked that I realized it's still on the to-do list. I'd be happy with any of them. I like Muy Thai the least as a fighting style but it's perhaps most interesting in terms of fighting game history. Tekken alone has 3-ish delegates alone if I remember/understand correctly (Bruce, C. Marduk, Fahkumram)
I guess I'd like to see Muay Thai in the future.
@@Artersa i think Tae kwon do well be cool.
1:55 - Rugal 2002 isnt baned only in Mexico either, here in Brazil as well back in the day.. KOF is huge here, every acrade cabinet you find, there's a 95% chance it's KOF on screen way more then SF. Also, I know how to "Jogar Copeira" pretty well but I never kept up with the lessons to get a belt. There is usually a "Roda" always at the local square with students from schools "playing" and singing. Like Karate but more active. Some of the moves names are diferent. Au batido is known as "Beija-flor" (literaly kiss-flower which is the name for Humming Birds) but aside from that great video, everything is pretty legit and acurate.
I think it depends on where you go. It's expected that Salvador and Rio de Janeiro, which had their own capoeira practices, would have different terms.
Aqui em Salvador o Au Batido se chama Au Batido mesmo
history of capoeira honestly sounds like a fairy tale. That is crazy! Learned a lot today
Capoeira is such a beautiful martial art. The history, the camaraderie between other practitioners, the style of the movement and attacks and the rhythm of the music. It’s such an amazing thing to watch, makes me want to learn how practice it !
Great analysis as always.
Indeed Capoeira's thing seem to be more about it's weird/unpredictable acrobatics that would allow one to escape from slavers, which makes it pretty unique.
And it's always amusing to hear people trying to speak my native language. Its pronunciation is definitely not intuitive lol
neither is english tbf
Hearing foreigners use the "~" is always a sure laugh XD
@@eusouocarameuirmao English is straight BONKERS. It does not make sense.
@@antonsimmons8519 Exactly, at least Portuguese is more consistent.
Brazilian language has a few tricky rules and sounds, but at least it has them. English is a lawless language lmao
The madman actually went all in saying the PT names, congrats!
I'll do the honors and correct the portuguese pronounciation:
5:03 "Meia Lua de Frente" - sounded slightly hispanic which could raise some eyebrows but completely understandable.
5:06 "Queixada" - Butchered it. "Quei" sounds exactly like the K in "K.O.". "Xa" sounds exactly like the Sha from "Shakira" in this context ("x" can have other sounds depending on the word). "Da" is open.
5:07 "Armada" and "Armada Dupla" - 10/10. Great job.
5:11 "Bênção" - OH WOW haha. Butchered it. "Ben" is correct, but "ção" is apparently the bane of all existance for people trying to learn portuguese. The little hook under the c in "ç" looks like a small "s" because the pronounciation is similar to "s", french speakers will be familiar with it. The "ão" sound doesn't exist in english, but "ção" sounds like "sowhn" with an open "o" like in "vow". It's a nasal sound and you need to give it a small hint of an "n" at the end or you'll end up with an entire different thing (bensal instead of bênção).
5:14 "Meia Lua de Compasso" - 10/10
5:16 "Martelo de Chão" - You got "Martelo de" correctly. "Ch" has the same sound as "Sh", exactly the same as the "x" sound in Queixada. "ão" we already talked about in "Bênção", it's the same deal here. Sounds something like a nasal "SHOWHN" with an open O like in "vow" for english speakers.
5:19 "S Dobrado" - S is pronounced "ese" is portuguese, might as well go all the way since you already did a great job with Dobrado!
5:21 "Bananeira" - Sounded like a perfect portuguese speaker mimicking an italian accent, but it was perfectly correct.
5:25 "Cavalo" - Pretty good, too. Brazilian PT uses a strong V sound instead of the spanish that lean a bit midway between "V" and "B", but at this point this is nitpicking, anyone would understand you in Brazil.
5:27 "Au Fechado" - This one is close, but instead of A-u you really should have said a-U emphasizing the U sound. I also noticed that you actually got the "ch" sound correctly this time!
5:28 "Au Batido" - Some brazilians will complain about your "ti" sound, because in most populated parts of Brazil the "t" will be pronounced closer to the english "tch". HOWEVER, Brazil is huge and there are definitely places where people will say the word very similar to how you said it. Don't worry about it.
This were some great attempts. I'm glad you took the time and did your homework. Great video by the way, brazilians will love it :D
And just to add a few:
''Roda'' - Roh + dah, open sounds in both vowels.
''Ginga'' - Gin like in the beverage + gah once again an open sound.
and finally...
''Capoeira'' - You're not pronouncing the ''i'' in the word, but this one is kind of a nitpick, lol
gringos sofrendo pra pronunciar ão kkkkk
@@cheatsykoopa98 Bom, tente pronunciar death scythe corretamente, não é mole não, kkk
Mandou MUITO bem, cara! Eu ia explicar usando o alfabeto fonético internacional, mas tinha certeza de que alguém já tinha feito algo melhor. Valeu pela dedicação!
@@caranostalgico9249 ué, eu consigo normal
As someone who's used Uechi Ryu against friends with Capoeira, the "what are they doing, how do I block this???" sentiment hits home
As a Brazilian I loved this video, nice to see people recognizing our culture in such a nice way, I remember praticing Capoira as a child and how cool it was
Capoeira RULES I've been learning it for six months or so and I've found such a great community through it and I never would have heard of capoeira if it wasn't for fighting games 🤙🤸♂️
Hello, Brazilian here! I would like to let you know that you did very well in the pronunciations, your courage was rewarded!
And a great video, as always! Take care!
ce escutou a "queixada" dele
I'm surprised you never mentioned the film "Only the Strong" which also helped popularize it amongst martial art movie fans. It simply felt like Tekken 3 further elevated its popularity thanks to Eddy.
I remember Mark Dacascos went above and beyond to learn the style for the film, and indeed made Capoeira popular way before Tekken did.
Dude yes!
Thats how i got into it as a kid. When i met my teacher he asked me where i had heard of it. He cringed super hard. In retrospect its hillarious.
This is how I first saw it
Namco really did something for black 90's kids with Eddie, and the story of how it came about sets our souls on fire when we looked into it. I don't think the African diaspora could have asked for a cooler martial art with a more badass backstory
I agree bro. You nailed it. I luv Eddy, even to this day. And I luv the art of Capoeira, it is a Black Martial art created by black people.
@@calicoesblue4703 Yes I Agree 100%
@@calicoesblue4703 I Love Capoeira
@@calicoesblue4703 I Love Martial Arts 🥋
@@calicoesblue4703 I Love Kung Fu 🥋 Martial Arts 🥋
5:27 "AU fechado" means "closed AU" (the body makes the same of the letters A and U, hence the name)
A bit more info about Capoeira:
Capoeira Angola: This one is an older modality. It consists of strikes close to the ground (because the roof of the boat where the slaves were transported was low and they had to adapt the blows to the available space), a slower musical rhythm and during the circle practitioners do not clap. Nowadays this modality is not so practiced.
Capoeira Regional: created by Mestre Bimba, it has a faster musical rhythm, in addition to smoother movements. While some members play Capoeira, the other participants stand clapping. This style is still widely practiced to this day.
Contemporary Capoeira: It is a more recent practice, it emerged in the 70's. It brings together some characteristics of Capoeira Angola and Regional. The purpose of this category is to perform faster movements. This is certainly the most practiced type of Capoeira until today.
And there is Maculele, which is a folk dance originally practiced by blacks and caboclos from the Recôncavo Baiano, which simulates a fight with wooden sticks, to the sound of atabaques and chants. In the 20th century, some practitioners began using machetes instead of sticks in folklore performances. Today, Maculelê is widely practiced by Bahian Capoeira groups, but unlike Capoeira, which became a martial art by the great Bahian masters, Maculelê continued as folklore.
AH, Eddy Gordo moves where motion captured from Mestre Marcelo Pereira ou Mestre Marcelo Caveirinha.
Btw, congrats fort trying to speak the portuguese names :)
Finalmente capoeira!! Estava doido pra ver esse video desde o inicio da serie. Representatividade da maior arte marcial da Bahia é tudo
Sugar Punch manda muito bem, né? Estava esperando tb.
@@alaudelira demais! Acompanho o canal dele desde o ensino medio e hoje estou quase me formando em Jogos Digitais. Cada video dele é simplesmente magnífico
De todo Brasil,mesmo que tenha grande quantidade na bahia ela pretence ao Brasil todo.
@@romulo2864 Rapaz.. Assim como o pão de queijo é mineiro, mesmo sendo vendido em todo o Brasil, e o chimarrão sendo gaúcho e ninguém falar que "brasileiro". A capoeira foi criada na Bahia, difundido pelo Brasil por baianos que migrarão, sistematizado, regulamentado e com conquistas políticas tudo fruto de baiano, em outras palavras, assim como o acarajé, a capoeira é baiana!
@@gabrieldarze2267 indepentedente disto ela e nossa
Capoeira was a fighting style disguised as a dance style, but evolved into both traditions. It seems to be at least better than non trained fighters and I just love the "flow" movement type, capoeira uses your own weight to make movement, as a judoka trainee I can say it acts much the opposite as Judo uses the weight of your opponent against themselves and the concept of an acrobat and pendulum moves are just fascinating.
Eddy moves really does resemble real capoeira moves, and I can confirm, Tekken 3 was responsible for a surge in popularity of capoeira in Brasil. When I was a kid I think I first discovered and saw capoeira after the launch of Tekken 3. Lot of kids trying it on sand boxes in public parks.
yup he is not the first in fighting game, but Eddy Gordo in Tekken 3 is the first character to potray capoeira move in video game perfectly
Admittedly I was a fan of it from some underground Martial Arts movies, which also introduced me to the music. "Only the Strong" came out in 93 (beating out Tekken 3, which came out in 96, 97 in the US). So I was thrilled when I saw Eddy rep it... and disappionted by how negative the reactions were to him. I learned his flow and style, and used to be able to play him back in T3 at a high level, but always got the hate because everyone perceives him as "button mashing", no matter how you play him.
Mark Ducascos had me in my front yard ba na na wey'ing my ass off back in the day lol
I loved that movie! was enjoyable as a kid
It was only after I saw "Only the Strong" that I learnt Eddy was doing Capoeira and not breakdancing.
yeah I came to the comments just to see if there were any real ones they knew.... in my mind when Eddie came out he was inspired by that movie as much as lei was Jackie Chan and law was Bruce Lee
I was working at a movie theater in 93 and I swear I must have watched that movie at least 10 times. Great movie
I think it's fascinating that the first Capo fighter in Street Fighter was Elena, who hailed from Kenya. Sean, who did come from Brazil, did not practice the style, instead opting to mimic Ken. Laura, older sister of Sean, didn't have the style either, instead having her own Jiu Jitsu style, similar to Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. So, at least she got something from her home country.
As for your pronunciation, it sounded just like I would pronounce it. So good on you Granted, I've long since lost most of my Portuguese, (language really is a "use it or lose it" ability) so if you think "sounds like a foreign speaker" is a insult then I apologize.
During development, Elena was originally from Brazil while Sean was originally from America.
well, in a sense capoeira is african before it is brazilian (although i'm not sure which african country or region), as the whole concept of dancing fighting form was already very much a thing, but it was thoroughly adapted and re-developed by slaves to the form we now know it for. in a sense, while sean was not as big of a brazilian representation, Elena as a capoeirista is a great nod to the styles history.
Besides, even before Laura, sean and Oro where already meant to reflect the history of brazilian jiu jitsu: ansatsuken is a mix between judo and karate which i'll ask that you bear in mind for very brief history of brazilian jiu jitsu i'll now describe. back 1917 mitsuyo maeda came here to brazil, he was a pratictioner of what we know describe as "judo", but back then the distinction between judo and jujutsu(jiujitsu for most) wasn't yet as clear cut, under circumstances i don't remember anymore, the brothers of the Gracie family convinced him to teach them (bear in mind that martial arts traditions are almost sacred and shouldn't be taught carelessly outside your own dojo), but one of the brothers, Hélio, happened to be asthmatic and couldn't keep up with the pure strength based style as master Maeda had taught them, so he went back to the basics of the martial art and figured that leaning even more on the idea of "using your opponents strength against themselves" was the best... he was right and jiu-jitsu in Brazil was permanently changed afterwards, we don't even say "brazilian" jiujitsu here, we just say "post Gracie Jiujitsu". Oro, having come to Brazil and stayed and practicing a grappling style that is less about strength than it is about technique has been confirmed by capcom to be based on Hélio as well as another legendary judoka (one that didn't leave japan) and sean practicing a judo-based martial arts on his own after convincing Ken to teach him some is clearly modeled after the beginnings of the Gracie's career and now Laura alongside the rest of the Matsuda family is very obviosly based on the Gracie even down to the style being named after the family instead for their personal breakthroughs for the martial arts
@@anzol4523 Actuali "dance as a figthing" come to the african continent by brasilian influence, capoeira have more in common with the french savate, to the poit that historians belive that this is the true origin of capoeira.
Capoeira was inspired by Engolo (I think that's the name), an african martial art. So Elena's moveset is not really that out there
@@diablorojo3887 historians from where? savate's origin steems from around 19th century, earlier if you take into account the street fighting techniques it compiled, which does line up with when european and particularly french imigration got strong in brazil... save for the fact that capoeira has it's initial origins as early as the 16th century. i did actually confirm where in africa it's origins are most centered at, which was mostly angola, and as per my suspicions it was based on a competitive fight-dance form performed as part of a coming-of-age commemoration. any brazilian historian might argue whether it's a more african or brazilian martial art form, but attributing it to the french has never been with reputable sources. it might have garnered influence from savate in the 19th century, certainly, it was also when capoeira returned to light within brazilian culture but that's an "at most" situation, seeing how both martial arts couldn't be any more different, their only common ground is favouring kicks
For me, I fell in love with Capoeira after seeing the 90's move 'Only The Strong' xD
After that I consumed everything I could find on it, took classes for it and main every single capo character in every FG they are in. What you said is true though, Eddy did become the embodiment of that intrigue for the martial art for many, and I proudly use him no matter how low tier they make him
As a Brazilian who came across on your channel on the insurgence of playing fighting games again as I did as a kid, Eddy was the go-to of every brazilian kid while playing tekken, and I think you captured the spirit, the movement being so unpredictable as you described, the flash colors he had, cool backstory and being favorite of button mashers is a plus to everything that capoeira brings on the table.
Capoeira is beautiful to understanding why martial arts have arts to their name, I've practiced in public middle school in São Paulo when growing up and the whole thing just feels so ritualistic, the songs, the ginga play a huge part in that, you understand those principles other martial arts say to respect others, the martial art itself the envoirment and people who are playing with you in your body, without anyone ever telling you this things.
Capoeiristas use the term 'play' when doing sparrings of capoeira, it's teached as a game, a fun strategy of defending yourself, and Eddy summarizes that with every movement of his body, he isn't stucked on the ground, he plays he dances he's everywhere on the screen it's absolutely magical coming across that for the first time, and I think capoeira its exactly that!!
You pronounced the words like you were trying to speak spanish, and that was goofy af, but also endearing.
Thanks for giving it a shot, mate, the video was awesome!
Actually *pushes up nerd glasses* for A LOT of people they were first introduced to Coperia in the 1993 film Only the Strong. A great martial arts film that is the clear inspiration for all the moves Eddie G uses. Look into it ;)
is that the one with Jean Claude Van Damme as the hero and a golden statue as the macguffin? :)
@@eusouocarameuirmao no JCVD is not at all in this movie. The one you are thinking of is “The Quest”
That movie was so good to me. Marc Dacoscus really did his thing in that movie. Glad to see someone else appreciate it.
yup I saw that in the early 2000s good film.
Bob Wilson is still my most favorite Capoeira fighter. Playing him is always a blast
Eddy is the best thing done in 3d with the style, and Bob is the best thing done in 2d with the style. Though I believe it has mostly to do with the uniqueness of the Real Bout Fatal Fury (whole subseries) system. Nothing else flows in 2d in a nice way, the way the style needs. And this "flow" isn't only about good animations... Otherwise Elena would be a great example, but she isn't imo. Maybe it's more about the limitations of 2d fgs - then RBFF managed to avoid some of those constraints thanks to it's unique system.
Something interesting I noticed while watching Captain America movies: Cap has a spin kick he uses frequently that looks EXACTLY like a Capoeira kick. I wonder why they chose to give him that move in fight choreo, aside from it looking really cool.
Dang, nothing but good choices for the next one. Eddy absolutely did an amazing job both adapting the style and popularizing it. When I used to read martial arts guides I'd see it mentioned and it sounded cool, but nobody would have any idea what I was talking about if I mentioned it... 'till EVERYONE knew. lol
I just love watching Eddy fight. There's so much beauty in those animations its hard to believe its mostly things people do in real life
I once watched a video of someone applying Capoeira to MMA. I think there was also some Brazilian Jiu Jitsu being used as well. It got me thinking about this new style called Kudo. I don't know if those styles could really dominate in MMA, but I do find it fascinating how martial arts develops or how it evolves over time.
I just found this Channel the other night doing the whole late night look around youtube. I really love these Style select videos! i hope we get more and i can't wait to check out more this channel has to offer!
Dunno if its been mentioned, but my first introduction to Capoiera was a movie called Only The Strong starring Mark Dacascos, and this was years before Eddie turned up.
I really wish you had talked about more Capoeira characters instead of just talking about how great Eddie is. I get it, his character was important in making the style a household name, but you could’ve at least treated the other Tekken capoeira practitioners like their own characters instead of just labeling them as, “Echo fighters.” Heck, Elena is probably the second most well known Capoeira fighter in fighting games, but you just breezed right passed her to talk more about Eddie!
Elena is probably th...
Me: okay but what about Christie?
SugarPunch: I don't know her.
I think one of the things is what he gets into: while 2D fighters got a whole lot better about conveying the style after Richard Meyer, Eddie encapsulated the style most vividly precisely because of the third element. Also, far as Christie goes, keep in mind that he didn't go into Eddie's story or design either, and the two never really diverged all that much style-wise to really separate for the sake of focusing on the style itself.
i love how this gave us a brief history of the fighting style whilst showing videos of it, and the clear narration... i instantly subscribed... volume of the video is quite nice too... also the narrator is lively, funny and have a nice accent. i love channels like this.
When I was learning Portuguese in college, they would teach us about Brazilian culture as well and taught us about this fighting style one day. Thanks to Tekken, I had already known everything they taught us about it.
I do feel like it should be said that Hitmontop, a pokemon of gen 2, is inspired by capoeira. I like to think that Eddy’s influence may gave inspired pokemon devs
Isn't Hitmontop inspired by breakdancing just as much as capoeira
@@bri1085 nop, its name in japanese is literally capoera
@@SenaHawe I said just as much, it's signature move is literally doing the spinaroni
When it was used in the streets of big cities, capoeira was complemented with other skills, like wrestling and razor blades (worn on the hands, not the feet). There's even a variety that incorporates machetes, which I suspect would be quite deadly against armed soldiers. Furthermore, one of its functions (again, in the urban setting) was establishing social standing - it was important to not just beat up your opponent, but style on them. Elaborate dodges were like a game of chicken where you'd show just how much the other guy was outclassed.
The main styles taught today (like Capoeira Regional, the one most likely to be familiar to international viewers, and Capoeira Angola) are formalized systems that were created in the early 20th century in a bid to obtain protected cultural status from the government. To the credit of the old mestres who did that, it worked.
I played tekken 3 obsessively and played Lei and eddy exclusively. In high-school I found a capoeira club and absolutely loved it and practiced through college. Without the video game I would not have had that experience.
I have not seen enough non-Eddie capoeira clips and this video was a great showcase. Thank you. The teaser for the next video candidates made me very excited too. Needless to say, you earned a sub with this one.
all i can say, even in tears of pride is thank you from the bottom of my heart for paying attention to the martial art that i love and practice since my childhood...e a todos meus irmãos de capoeira, Salve!
My own introduction was through Richard Meyer, Bob Wilson and Elena (then Momoko). As limited as the 2D plane was, I definitely felt Bob and Elena managed to convey a lot of the signature Capoeira moves and flow. I disliked using Momoko, but her play style is a pretty good representation of how Capoeira moves flow into each other.
6:01 I practiced Capoeira for some time, and this is also true in the real life Capoeira. It's the most dynamic fighting style i've ever seen, and that's why we emphasize so much on the Rodas: the unpredictability is so big that we constantly spar, not just to unlock the creativity needed to make connections, but to understand how to defend against said moves. Also, Capoeira have a lot of different internal styles, there is ground based style that uses elbows, headbutts, knees and grapples and is generally more slow with more inside fighting (that fits perfectly with jiu jitsu, for example); there is the acrobatics focused with a lot of tricks and momentum; there is a style that use wooden sticks; and they even used small blades, holding on to the foot. Godammit, there's even records of capoeiristas using foot SHACKLES as weapons, so yeah, it's resistance fighting at it's peak. I love Capoeira.
Your content is a massive breath of fresh air. Informative but still fun. Exposition with a lovely balance of visuals. Serious with just enough of a light and fun tone to avoid sounding like a lecture. Also more importantly, its not a 40 minute+ essay I have to dedicate a huge chunk of time to.
Capoeria is one of my personal favorite styles but I'd kinda forgotten about it with the passage of time. Thanks for reigniting my appreciation for it! I'll enjoy whoever wins the poll but I'm especially looking forward to muay thai if it a wins.
Though Richard Meyer's animations on the first Fatal Fury were kind of rough and not a real representation of what real-life capoeira looks like, I'll give SNK some credit for including a Brazilian-style band in the background of the Pao Pao Café playing traditional instruments like the berimbau. That's quite the detail for a game made in 1991
The unpredictability is a strong point but that's exactly why it's become weaker. In the era of information it's easy to pick apart the style and expose the flaws it has. On the other hand it's also easy to grab the others strenghts and adopt them into a mixed style, capoeira does have some really strong kicks due to the way it uses momentum.
I agree in general. However, a few enterprising maestro have been taking the strategy of continuing and building momentum in the flowing rhythmic style of capoeira and applying it to mma and other combat sports. It gives it a good basis for advancing the art.
Bro, really appreciate you for doing this vídeo. Good work my guy.
Wonderful video. I've been wanting something like this for a while now, nice job
This is my favorite series of yours.
I have big respect for anyone who doesn't shy away from genuinely attempting to pronounce words they're unfamiliar with.
Eddy. Really in a sense, that already sums up this episode perfectly as the man himself did so much to help highlight this fighting style. While we may see more people in the future use capoeira in fighting games, Eddy will always remain as the OG who truly showcased how the dance is done.
As for the next time, I’m definitely stomped on which choice to make. I’d love to hear about any of the three, but each one definitely has a vast history to dive into.
Wasn't expecting so much Capoiera history, but I'm glad it was here! Would love to see more videos breaking down the history of different martial arts styles!
Thank you! I enjoyed watching your video on one of my favorite martial arts styles from South America.
Whoa, it took you time to make this video ever since you released your announcement, I'm going to watch it knowing that you took your time, it must be good like all your videos are. Worth the wait.
Currently reading a manga series called Batuque that revolves around Capoeira. I've always been a fan of the manga artist's style, with gritty fights, good research about its origins and historical figures (like Besouro Manganga) so if you have any interest in its history as well as a cool story (at least in my opinion), I urge you to take a look
Thanks for this video, so much passion passed through an amazing work
Excellent video! Love this whole series.
I'm surprised you didn't mention that Eddie was one of the two playable characters in the Tekken 3 demo (the other being Ling Xiaoyu). The developers really knew they HAD something with Eddie and frankly, he singlehandedly sold me on the game.
As a Brazilian and Capoerista this video gave me goosebumps and pride feelings. The history of Brazilian slavery is horrible, it's a due to a white Brazilian (from Bahia) like me to understand, respect and preserve that (Capoeira) and all of African-Brazilian heritage. Great video! Salve!
In America you would not be considered white, you would be considered a light skinned black man. You sure you aren't black???
Amazing video! And you got the pronunciations pretty close! I love this series, keep it up!
As a Brazilian I can confirm that this video is amazingly well done! What a great research! (about capoeira and about capoeira in fighting games). And I am pretty sure that this video will make you reach 100k subscribers soon!
Being a Brazilian myself, I loved this video,and I was very excited for this video and screamed when I saw it in my TH-cam notification
Tae kwon do as a possible next one I'm sorta excited for. Mainly because im a dance instructor in VR and ended up teaching a few people that practiced that martial art. All of them were physically capable of doing complex moves on offer due to the strength and flexibility from the training... But they all had a similar issue of being more flat footed and thus having issues moving with music as cleanly, and I wonder if thats something the style driven into them.
Man this was great! Quality content my guy!
I love that you included the history on Capoeira!! very thorough
Hoo boy, as much as I love Capoeira, it is by far one of the most disrespected martial arts form in media.
i was REALLY anxious about this episode: there was much to get right, much to get wrong and an unmistakable amount of mistakes even here in Brazil we often fall prey to in regards to the style... safe to say the results outclasses my worries and the care with which you presented one of our best things our culture has birthed (well, for a martial arts and fighting game nut like me anyways) warms my heart.
small addendum in the form of trivia for whoever finds this comment:
capoeira was still used in "real" combat situation up to around 30~40 years ago in street fighting shows between martial arts gangs (no, seriously) alongside the infamous brazilian jiu jitsu, and both were severely feared in a no holds barred context for their sheer brutality and not un-often their lethality, since then theses sort of street fighting culture has died down (thankfully, considering how harmful it was) and are only lived by in the much more acceptable realm of fighting games.
There's also been reports from ever since back in their origin up till these street fights of capoeiristas grabbing razor blades with their toes to make their already very powerful kicks even more deadly and while it's hard to know if that is true, a myth or an overblown more tame truth i would REALLY like to see a capoerista in a videogame put some sort of edged weapon in their feet just for the novelty of the whole thing
.... Holy shit, a capoeira master using blades on his feet is actually the scariest thing I've heard of. You're just talking to a guy and suddenly he's down low do the ground bringing a foot full of razors at your neck at speeds your brain can't fully comprehend from a relaxed state.
@@AlriikRidesAgain yup. rad as hell innit? we NEED capoeira daggers in a fighting game
@@AlriikRidesAgain Peaky Blinders if they played capoeira
1:11 Capoeira is effective, it's just really risky, spinning in combat makes you unpredictable and help you hit like a truck, until your opponent manage to predict you and now you are fucked.
I think even just the real historical part of this video makes it my favourite Style Select so far. There's so much background and importance I didnt know about Capoeira and it really made me like the style even more.
I really like this video, even if you couldnt pronounce anything right lol
Great video. These style selects might be my favorite thing you do. I'm a little bit surprised that you didn't mention Blanka, though--canonically now, he has a self-created fighting style, but Capcom USA originally listed it as Capoeira (for some reason).
Probably for being Brazilian. I do remember that, and the Street Fighter RPG rolling with it while actually describing capoeira with a few actual facts. Ah, the days when shotokan karate was the key to throwing a hadouken.
A valiant effort in pronunciation.
Ginga has a soft G ("j" sound) on the first g... "Jinga"
"De" is often pronounced almost like "ji" (with the i rhyming with "tip" or "spit"
Quexiada = kay-SHAH-dah
Ben-ssah-oo
Again "you are not a coward" you did amazing both on the attempted pronunciation and the video.
I remember the day Eddy dropped in the arcades... I was 17 and had already begun studying capoeira after watching "only the strong"
I had seen concept art for him in gaming magazines and hoped he would be a capoeirista! I was so excited when I rolled by the mall and saw that ue was in fact a capoerista! It was a great day in my teen years.
I'm a Bantuphone. In Bantu languages Jenga means to evade/dodge. The fact that this is reflected in this martial art is testament to its Angolan roots; Engolo martial arts.
You got a new sub as a hardcore fighting game fan your videos are very informative and funny.
I'm a new discoverer of your channel today and I'm that video 8 today loving it. It broke my heart with capoeira because I've practiced it for about 20 years and I've heard you pronounce the Japanese names with perfection, I studied a little bit, however when you came up to the Ginga, it's more so pronounced "Jinga". It's probably already been said if you times but I think you do awesome videos and I'm a subscriber. Cheers my friend!
You killed me with "I'm not a coward!" 🤣 Good job at pronouncing those words. One thing that might have eluded you during your research: the acrobatic style is commonly known as "capoeira regional" because its creator added to capoeira and called it "luta regional baiana", or "regional fighting from Bahia." Of course there are those that say that it isn't the true capoeira, which is commonly referred to as "capoeira from Angola." So is it really Brazilian if in its name it says it's from Angola? I don't want to go down this rabbit hole, BELIEVE ME!
Awesome video. Kinda sad you didn't mention Lisa Hamilton from Dead or Alive, who seamlessly blends Capoeira and Lucha Libre into a devastatingly fluid hybrid.
Actually there was a matial arts movie in the early 90's that exclusively depicted capoeria that came out even before tekken 2. I remembered it as a kid cuz they often sang this song in the movie that went like "ban na na way, ban na na way la ti da" while doing the attacks. That was my first introduction to capoeria
Awesome video as always!
very happy to see Elena, and "Tom-Yum-Goong (aka live action tekken) in here.
My first intro was the 1993 movie "only the strong"
the drunk fighting style
Eddy is my all-time main character. I started training capoeira as a result. The adaptation was so good that I would sometimes come home from training and apply the philosophies I learned in ranked.
Amazing video. Well laid out!
great vid man, truly loved this. Felt so happy seeing the culture of Brasil getting a spotlight
u acctually pronounced most of the words right (in portuguese we acctually pronounce the J as the actual J sound in english not as an R like in spanish)
great video, as a brazilian this makes me very happy, and don't worry about the portuguese, it's difficult even for us
Gonna be honest, I found this pretty eye-opening.
I guess I'd always just subconsciously assumed Capoeira was nonsense because it looked so over-the-top - a fake martial art designed to look flashy or something.
Clearly I'd know better if I'd ever looked into it at all, but now I do know. Very cool.
well, you are kinda right, capoeira have "dance elements" but in a fight you not suppose to do backflips and shit, the art start to becoming more "performatic" in the 40s to distance from street brawlers and became more of a artistic representation for the brasilian people, to this day people is mad for making capoeira "more of a dance and less of a fight", splithing in 2 branches "angola" and "regional" (slow/strong; fast/gracious).
the thing is, capoera is more than just what it looks like, its just that, there are multiple styles, the more modern ones going for less and less "combatability" and more as a group dance.
but its origins came from real fights, and it was actually pretty effective.
it looks like a dance, with all the flips, but those are "training moves", to help your body pull off some of the more attacks. what makes capoera dangerous however is that, the dance is used to create momentum, that is then transfered into powerfull blows. it doesnt do punches, but instead hits with the knees elbows and the heel. and it targets softer parts of the body like the crotch, the kidney, the nose or the temple.
the dance itself is done so you can do fake outs and then a quick hit, pull back, and then create space to either bait an attack or escape. many of its real strikes are very similar to other attacks in other martial arts. like a heel drop from taekwondo or a knee strike from muay thai.
You handled this topic so beautifully and I am very proud of this coverage of capoeira. Thank you thank you thank you so much
YESSSS!! OH MY GOSH THANK YOU! I've been dying to see someone do a dive on not only capoeira in fighting games, but a proper examination of the art's history. It too often capoeira is overlook as just a dance style, and I cannot thank you enough for putting respect on capoeira's name, especially with the effort of speaking the language (even if it wasn't always right lol)!!