For once and for the first time I must thank Karan Thapar for taking this aspect upfront. This is subject that should be debated in the open. Invasion of privacy is a serious matter.
I have a serious example Let's think that a couple is in live in relationship and have a quarrel with their neighbours for human or animal rights violation ,so with other laws can defend them but this ucc neighbours will torture them and can sent them to jail with few thousand rupees bribe to the police man
This issue is in India all these journalist and not really secular. The are fake or psuedo secular. If these individuals are questioning the registration of live in relation, they should question the need to register marriage which already exist. A marriage is a personal choice between a man and woman, and why should they inform/register it with government. Thru marriage if a couple is trying to gain tax benefits since they are living in the same house, sharing public resource, then they should file tax jointly simply as domestic partner and registering marriage can be fully optional. Other places where the advantage of having children (example tax credits for children) can be regulated through the woman identifying the father at the time of delivery either through a statement or DNA test, this will give them the evidence for tax credit as well as child-support as needed. Here the woman should be provided the option not to declare who is the father, then it should be made clear they loose her rights for child support from the male who is responsible for the child. And at this situation you cannot say registering marriage will protect the woman. So you cannot protect woman in one situation and not in another. So if you want government to stay away from all personal matter, go deep and question everying thing and try to solve on the couples willingness to accept they are living in the same house (whether they are married or not) for them to gain tax benefits and make it compulsory for paternity test at the time of delivery and this will involve a man whether they like it or not. IF the woman refuses the paternity test on civil rights angle, then the burden will be on the woman and here you should not come say that marriage should be register to protect the woman. you can not have the cake and eat it too.
I think all said and done, the government simply doesn't want live-in relationships without actually appearing to say so. And it wants the moral police and vigilante to have access to data with which to harass such people.
A very valid point!! But I think it's the fault of our judiciary for the 3-4 crores cases in India... These all knowing creatures start taking PILs left, right and center, instead of focusing on lowering the backlog of cases... I mean, who made them God? Is it their right to decide a particular case is irrelevant and discard it?? I might have a bit more respect to the judiciary if I believed all the Milords in the Supreme Court were elected meritoriously. We, the normal folks, have to sit for examinations after examinations, but these leeches only go to the top based on their birth (if this isn't caste system, tell me what is). And they have the gall to give us lectures on how we're supposed to behave and things like that. Look at the current CJI and see who his father was. This esteemed gentleman giving us gyaan, look at his familial background. You deserve no respect from me. The last brahmastra that these shikandis have is the contempt of court case, and lowering the dignity of the court. I wanna put a contempt of court case on these jokers themselves, but they'll dismiss the case thinking that I'm a crazy person. But if you talk to any normal Indian, they have started to develop deep rooted hatred towards our judiciary. Unfortunately, what Pakistan army is to their country (a cancer destroying the soul), in the Indian context, it is our esteemed judiciary. Edit: I would like to apologize to Milords, please don't put a contempt of court case on me. When people wonder why the judiciary starts to crawl when a majority government comes to power (which is what is happening now, and in the 70s-80s), you know that these judges are only looking out for themselves, and not looking at delivering justice. There was a research done by some company that showed, as and when a SC judge approaches the retirement age, irrespective of his/her beliefs, they all start giving judgements in favor of the government. Do you know why? It's in the hope that they get post retirement benefits like being the head of some tribunal or something like that. So when this person gives us gyaan, I can only wonder why? Maybe he didn't get the plum posting he was looking for, and now venting out his frustration. I mean, "hypocrisy ki bhi seema hoti hai".
it was so nice to hear the objectionable queries by Justice Mandan Lokur. I being a lawyer truly appreciate the judicial mind of indian fellows. They want to change the custom by ucc when custom itself is the law. The germ of Indian judiciary Mr Kapil Sibal.
Why is there no law to prosecute people who have abandoned their wives? Instead some are bringing law who love each other. What does that tell us about the society we live in. We don't like people who love but love those who hate?
In the West, we have something called a Civil Partnership or Civil Union. Although initially intended for same-sex couples but its applicable to anyone who doesn't want to be in a wedlock but to remain in a relationship. Here, the couples can register this partnership if they need legal support from the State. However, registering such relationships is not mandatory. It is like having an analogy where they say capital punishment will have a detrimental effect on heinous crimes, which is so untrue. 🤨
We shall have now all voters to get permissions from the local election officer about whom to vote. If the first time voters do not follow this, they will be jailed.
When a woman takes the elevator manned by a "lift-man", their "cohabitation" - especially if interfaith - might get snitched on and questioned by such a law.
A valuable conversation on UCC of Uttarakhand in reference to live-in relationship. Mr Thappar is requested to organise a comprehensive critique of it.
Along with these insights, We should also ask these Judges :- - Why there are Crores of case pending? - What have you done to speed-up the judicial process? - Why innocent people are in jail for many years for minor crimes of stealing? - Do you think common people still believe in justice from the courts?
This will pitch citizen against citizen. Privacy at stake. Another pretext for harassment and extra source of income for law enforcement. Next expect laws against Smiling, Passion, Poetry, Thinking, Maintaining positive attitude in spite of adversity, Kindness and Caring for others.
You both are lucky you lived a life in democratic India and few years left. Sorry for being sarcastic but me and my children have to spend more years under this undemocratic government
@@sauron2000000 just calculate Per capita income of Indians, then check with lowest price package to travel to Maldives. You will know how BJP spoiled economy of India.
How about the students who stay in hostels for studies and or work? In many University hostels, more than one students are dumped forcefully in one room. Shall that be called living in?
These Supreme court all courts judges are main reason for these kind of law being implemented these judges delay justice go for vacations and enjoy when tarik pe tarik are being palyed out. Now they come and discuss in public. First Judges must clear all the pending cases and discuss how to dispose these ASAP with time line.
I thought Uttarakhand is going to be the Silicon valley of North India once the Expressways are built, but these kind of laws will scare away people coming to that part of the country. This is ridiculous.
Why would any one wants to register their personal lives, this is completely personal life of two individual people in their own life's. Even in marriages there are lot of cases where husband killed wife or wife killed husband. Instead of showing interest in live in relationships, government should give justice to Olympic medal winners wrestlers sexually assaulted, Manipur women who were forced to parade naked, BHU IIT girl who got raped by BJP it cell members
@@SubhashishBagchi is he able to give employment to all Hindus who were born legitimate? Don't get blind over religion. Talk about Manipur issue, Olympic medal winners wrestlers sexually assaulted by BJP MP brijbhushan, bhu IIT girl who got raped by BJP it cell members. In the last two cases both victims and culprits are Hindus only. There is no live in relationships in these cases. Instead of solving these they want to check what happening in personal life's? China occupied ladakh 2000sq kms, it's not my saying ex BJP MP subramanian swamy saying with evidence. Why government not focussing on these matters
@@SwarajyaLakshmi-i1e According to Indian Muslims and Leftist at time of implementation of CAA and NRC - All Religion should be treated equally. Now when UCC is implemented by government as UCC exist as a provision of constitution then Indian Muslims and Leftist saying all Religion should not be treated equally What kind of dilemma is this 😁😁😁
@@SwarajyaLakshmi-i1e I am from Assam North east and we know how illegal immigration is a huge issue over here. Since last 60 years the insurgency and illegal immigration are beautiful gift of Congress to North east. We know Kukki in India and in Burma are involve in drug smuggling across the borders and both Indian and Burmese Army are trying best to curb the smuggling issue. Therefore Indian government with permission from Burmese government decided to built a wall but Kukki population doing chaos. Manipur issue occurs because of extreme illegal migration into India from Burma
@4:56 . ....failure to do so can lead to 3month of imprisonment Government is like, जेल खाली हैं, तो जगहा भरना हैं, तो क्या करे चलो "ए तुम लिव्ह इन में रहते हो और रजिस्टर नहीं किया, चलो जेल में" "ए तुम पहले लिव्ह इन में रहते थे, अब नहीं रहते, चलो जेल में" Couples are like "हम करे तो करे क्या" साथ रहे तो भी सजा, साथ छोड़े तो भी सजा
Not a second spent on the trampling of a certain personal law, that is sanctioned by the constitution. I guess the right to practice customs, beliefs don't apply to that particular demographic cohort. Bravo!
Why should any child be illegitimate. That's not a child's mistake also in a society like India the child will have a horrible life. There needs to be a serious discussion on this. No child can be illegitimate
The harassment will happen only if the boy is not a Hindu , under BJP rule. BJP always resorts to duplicity if something cannot be done legally. I think registration is ok but it should not be criminalized. A penalty of max 5000 per person should be imposed for non registration.
@@MAYAMENON-e9bI think because this person thinks live in relationships are a sin. Like Saudi Arabia there premarital sex you will be jailed. Because now this is new India a new chakra kaal. Infact in Saudi women dont need to cover their head and there was a music concert. I saw this in the Chinese show. Saudis religious police is being made powerless but a civilized nation like India will soon have a religious police. Welcome to the new chakra kaal
What on earth is an 'illegitimate' child?? If two consenting adults have intercourse and it leads to there being a kid, what possible reason could there be for the child to be 'illegitimate' and be deprived of it's rights as their child?
वो दौर चले गए जब पत्रकारों से सरकार चलता था। कैबिनेट मंत्री पद के लिए पत्रकार सालिशी करते थे और सरकारी खर्चे से प्रधानमंत्री के हवाई जहाज से बैठकर पत्रकार बिदेश यात्रा करते थे और सरकार चलाने के लिए पत्रकारों से सलाह लिया जाता था।
What is the value of anyone's life to someone who has used God to rule . जिसने भगवन का इस्तेमाल किया है राज करने के लिए उसक लिए किसी की जान की क्या कीमत. ...,,^^•^|•|°^|•°^>
The purpose of the registration to count the population which is born without wedlock. If our government continues this law, then shortly Indian's will reach the some of population which is born under without wedlock... Which is dangerous for our country. ..... If I hurt someone sorry for that..... As same sentence said by Mr. Clinton for America's.
Can it not be misused?If any one is having an affair with someone and if they both are being caught from a Hotel or from their residence they can also be booked for having a living relationship and be punished.
I guess you should have consider other aspects also eg . SC kept out of UCC are they not indians? I support your journalism but this interview could have been better. Following you for more interview.
"Likely to be scrapped"? Unlikely, at least in the immediate future, given the atrocious state of our judiciary. It may take ages before it reaches SC, who then will take their own sweet time to dispose it off using some funny logic that they have been accustomed to.
@23:18 .... पहले तो मेन्टेनन्स का प्रावधान हि नहीं होना चाहिए, और अगर हो तो महिला और पुरुष दोनों को मेनटेंनन्स कि मांग करने का प्रावधान समान रूप में उपलब्ध हो
Registering live ins is an excellent idea because it makes ppl aware of the legal rights of the parties involved and will make plenty of ppl realise the game s not worth the candle
You can also interview Retired SC Judge KM Joseph and keep him in your panel for discussing important Constitutional matters. He was one of the finest Judges I admired a lot. He will give a different perspective on complex Constitutional subjects.
Why don't NGOs and Governments gather data on domestic violence committed by women against men? Why don't legislatures enact the law to protect #MenToo?
The issue is, in India all these journalists are not secular. The are fake or pseudo secular. If these individuals are questioning the registration of live in relation, they should also question the existing need to register marriage. If you say living together is a personal choice, a marriage also personal choice between a man and woman, and why should they inform/register it with government? Thru marriage if a couple is trying to gain tax benefits since, they are living in the same house, sharing public resource, then they should file tax jointly simply as domestic partner and registering marriage can be fully optional. Other places where the advantage of having children (tax credits for children) can be regulated through the woman identifying the father at the time of delivery either through a statement or DNA test, this will give them the evidence for tax credit as well as child-support as needed. If you insist insisting for paternity test is a violation of personal right, the woman should be provided the option not to declare who is the father, then it should be made clear they lose her rights for child support from the male who is responsible for the child. And at this situation you cannot say registering marriage will protect the woman. So, you cannot protect woman in one situation and not in another. So if you want government to stay away from all personal matter, go deep and question everything thing and try to solve them on scientific and optional basis, such as the couples willingness to accept they are living in the same house (whether they are married or not) for them to gain tax benefits and make it compulsory for paternity test at the time of delivery and this will involve a man whether they like it or not. If the woman refuses the paternity test or not willing to name the father of the child on civil rights ground, then the burden will be on the woman and here one should not come to say that marriage should be registered to protect the woman. you cannot have the cake and eat it too.
Because marriage is already established institution which follows certain codified laws (religious or govt statute). If two consenting adults want to follow it they have all the freedom to marry. If they don't want to get into it, they find live-in convenient. Why make live-in certified as "marriage-lite". Extremely stupid for you to even make such illogical claims and post it on the internet for everyone to see.
Most Landlords would demand registration. Most parents of the Girl would want registration, India being what it is , it is usually the girl who is physically thrown into the street with her suitcase and tattered " holdall " in case there is dispute / altercation / relationship sours. A majority of Girls would prefer registration Karan did not pursue intercaste Karan is obsessed with protecting interfaith. Especially Muslim Boy - Hindu Girl . Say it aint so Mr Thapar. Many families kill one or both in the live in relationship. Family Honor thing. Its in the culture and the DNA. Registration gives the Police some evidence and a paper trail to follow up . Registration can help in case of a rape allegation.( Girl looks at something in the guy's phone , goes bananas ) Karan ..... Let the guest talk .... do not lead him with your agenda. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= No need to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Pass the law as is , Let Justice Chandrachud strike it down. Karan .. grow up .
No data is required to understand that crimes will decrease if live ins are forced to register . Registration will reduce the no of live ins and logically will reduce crimes
Registering live relationship protects both men and women. In case of men, women cannot claim based on promise of marriage for example. The benefits such as medical insurance, children etc. will also be protected including property for surviving partner. However, it should only involve registration with authorities having no right to approve or investigate. Similarly no fines or jail time.
The problem is the current govt is too singular minded about any policy. No capacity for multi dimensional approach or taking into account different perspectives.
What happens when foreigners visit, and live there for a few months for a holy pilgrimage, and are in a live in relationship, which is so common all over the world?
Would former Prime Minister Vajpayee have had to register his live in relationship and the child born of the relationship under such an Act? Is there an age limit for presuming that a livein relationship exists? For example, what about a post menopausal woman who lives with a man, for safety etc.?
Madan Lokur sir, your intentions look dubious. Are you also vying for a RS seat from INDIA alliance? I doubt they'll have any left to give after 2024. Please hedge your bets and come to the center.
@@Neel454 Thank you for not abusing me for my opinions. I'm definitely willing to have a conversation with anyone whose supporting Madan sir with an open mind, but my only precondition is it should be civil.
@@diglive123 I'll not abuse anyone, and we all should shows our parenting . The point is BJP is not the party , who teach us how to react on the same. This is our parenting and we didn't believe that India got freedom after 2014. We should know what BJP wants to serve the nation in upcoming years. Thanks 🙏
@@Neel454At least I never claim that India got independence in 2014. We should all respect our founding fathers and mothers, including JLN. But what I have a problem with is the sycophancy around the Gandhi family, and their new narrative of the North-South divide. I can't stand this being peddled by portals like The Wire, and is one of the main reasons why I'm gonna support BJP in 2024. Do I think that party is perfect? Definitely no. I have many reservations about how they're alienating 20 percent of Indians, but I'll swallow the bitter pill and vote for them coz I'm afraid if INC comes to power, we're going to have a repeat of 1947 partition. Edit: And I have serious reservations on journalists like Arfa Khanum, Karan Thapar, Rajdeep Sardesai and the lot. I was an avid watcher of Vir Sanghvi and Barkha Dutt too, but they destroyed their credibility (at least in my eyes), after the Radia tapes, and the same happened to me yesterday after you-know-who became a RS member. How can we trust these journalists and opinion makers, if they have their own ulterior motives?😢😢
An unregistered live in relationship should not be treated at par with marriage when it comes to maintenance. The couple should know very clearly that the rights and obligations in a live in relationship are different from that in a marriage. You can criminalize if one person wants to exit the live in relationship but is being pressurized by the other person to continue.
For once and for the first time I must thank Karan Thapar for taking this aspect upfront. This is subject that should be debated in the open. Invasion of privacy is a serious matter.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Privacy isn't a word anymore. It's extinct.
I have a serious example
Let's think that a couple is in live in relationship and have a quarrel with their neighbours for human or animal rights violation ,so with other laws can defend them but this ucc neighbours will torture them and can sent them to jail with few thousand rupees bribe to the police man
This issue is in India all these journalist and not really secular. The are fake or psuedo secular. If these individuals are questioning the registration of live in relation, they should question the need to register marriage which already exist. A marriage is a personal choice between a man and woman, and why should they inform/register it with government. Thru marriage if a couple is trying to gain tax benefits since they are living in the same house, sharing public resource, then they should file tax jointly simply as domestic partner and registering marriage can be fully optional. Other places where the advantage of having children (example tax credits for children) can be regulated through the woman identifying the father at the time of delivery either through a statement or DNA test, this will give them the evidence for tax credit as well as child-support as needed. Here the woman should be provided the option not to declare who is the father, then it should be made clear they loose her rights for child support from the male who is responsible for the child. And at this situation you cannot say registering marriage will protect the woman. So you cannot protect woman in one situation and not in another.
So if you want government to stay away from all personal matter, go deep and question everying thing and try to solve on the couples willingness to accept they are living in the same house (whether they are married or not) for them to gain tax benefits and make it compulsory for paternity test at the time of delivery and this will involve a man whether they like it or not. IF the woman refuses the paternity test on civil rights angle, then the burden will be on the woman and here you should not come say that marriage should be register to protect the woman.
you can not have the cake and eat it too.
@@bkbk4726 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I think all said and done, the government simply doesn't want live-in relationships without actually appearing to say so. And it wants the moral police and vigilante to have access to data with which to harass such people.
Vigilante rocks.
There are thousands of pending cases in courts and police stations, instead of solving them government has intrest in personal relationship of people
A very valid point!! But I think it's the fault of our judiciary for the 3-4 crores cases in India... These all knowing creatures start taking PILs left, right and center, instead of focusing on lowering the backlog of cases... I mean, who made them God? Is it their right to decide a particular case is irrelevant and discard it??
I might have a bit more respect to the judiciary if I believed all the Milords in the Supreme Court were elected meritoriously.
We, the normal folks, have to sit for examinations after examinations, but these leeches only go to the top based on their birth (if this isn't caste system, tell me what is). And they have the gall to give us lectures on how we're supposed to behave and things like that.
Look at the current CJI and see who his father was. This esteemed gentleman giving us gyaan, look at his familial background. You deserve no respect from me.
The last brahmastra that these shikandis have is the contempt of court case, and lowering the dignity of the court. I wanna put a contempt of court case on these jokers themselves, but they'll dismiss the case thinking that I'm a crazy person.
But if you talk to any normal Indian, they have started to develop deep rooted hatred towards our judiciary. Unfortunately, what Pakistan army is to their country (a cancer destroying the soul), in the Indian context, it is our esteemed judiciary.
Edit: I would like to apologize to Milords, please don't put a contempt of court case on me.
When people wonder why the judiciary starts to crawl when a majority government comes to power (which is what is happening now, and in the 70s-80s), you know that these judges are only looking out for themselves, and not looking at delivering justice.
There was a research done by some company that showed, as and when a SC judge approaches the retirement age, irrespective of his/her beliefs, they all start giving judgements in favor of the government. Do you know why? It's in the hope that they get post retirement benefits like being the head of some tribunal or something like that.
So when this person gives us gyaan, I can only wonder why? Maybe he didn't get the plum posting he was looking for, and now venting out his frustration. I mean, "hypocrisy ki bhi seema hoti hai".
It is the work of tbe judiciary to resolve the cases not the govtis going to resolve the cases
@@BASIC_ARTt in the same way whom to love,how to love,whom to marry or how to live personal life is our decision not governments.
Why do our legislators waste our time?
Thank you for bringing the issue to the forefront. I support your position.
it was so nice to hear the objectionable queries by Justice Mandan Lokur. I being a lawyer truly appreciate the judicial mind of indian fellows.
They want to change the custom by ucc when custom itself is the law. The germ of Indian judiciary Mr Kapil Sibal.
Germ is Ravi shankar Prasad... Kapil sibal is not even in power, Ravi Shankar is in power.... 😂 wtf are you talking man... kuch bhi
Why is there no law to prosecute people who have abandoned their wives? Instead some are bringing law who love each other. What does that tell us about the society we live in. We don't like people who love but love those who hate?
Fed up of moral policing!There are more pressing issues to focus on.
There is no legitimate reason or purpose on this earth for existence of this law, as well as sedition
In the West, we have something called a Civil Partnership or Civil Union. Although initially intended for same-sex couples but its applicable to anyone who doesn't want to be in a wedlock but to remain in a relationship. Here, the couples can register this partnership if they need legal support from the State. However, registering such relationships is not mandatory. It is like having an analogy where they say capital punishment will have a detrimental effect on heinous crimes, which is so untrue. 🤨
I have a deep regards for Justice Lokur❤❤
This isn't just misogynist, but also anti-constitutional, must be challenged in the High court, and Supreme court!
We shall have now all voters to get permissions from the local election officer about whom to vote. If the first time voters do not follow this, they will be jailed.
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When a woman takes the elevator manned by a "lift-man", their "cohabitation" - especially if interfaith - might get snitched on and questioned by such a law.
Yes.
A valuable conversation on UCC of Uttarakhand in reference to live-in relationship. Mr Thappar is requested to organise a comprehensive critique of it.
Mostly women will oppose this law, bcoz they won’t be able to mess around with rich men, rich married men, etc
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“Likely to be scrapped” i doubt it, since the SC has been passing judgment which are illogical.
Along with these insights, We should also ask these Judges :-
- Why there are Crores of case pending?
- What have you done to speed-up the judicial process?
- Why innocent people are in jail for many years for minor crimes of stealing?
- Do you think common people still believe in justice from the courts?
Because the justice system is severely underfunded. 1 court for every 50000 persons. There will always be delays unless there are more civil courts
Whats your prescribed solution.
A complaint without a suggested solution may not go far.
This will pitch citizen against citizen. Privacy at stake. Another pretext for harassment and extra source of income for law enforcement.
Next expect laws against Smiling, Passion, Poetry, Thinking, Maintaining positive attitude in spite of adversity, Kindness and Caring for others.
are you mad? everything you mentioned is already haram in islam...
“It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.”
― Charles Darwin
You both are lucky you lived a life in democratic India and few years left. Sorry for being sarcastic but me and my children have to spend more years under this undemocratic government
Go to Maldives.
@@sauron2000000 just calculate Per capita income of Indians, then check with lowest price package to travel to Maldives. You will know how BJP spoiled economy of India.
I wonder which century the legislators who came up with this UCC live in. This relationship is the one that needs to be investigated.
Awesome..🎉
The Government will place this UCC matter before a convenient Bench and get favourable verdict
The new Bharat this is just the start then all sorts of controlling measures will come join
Isn't it incompetence of governance?
How about the students who stay in hostels for studies and or work? In many University hostels, more than one students are dumped forcefully in one room. Shall that be called living in?
Yes.😂 . That too gay live in.
Unlawful lawmakers, intruding into bedrooms 😮
Justice lokur👏
These Supreme court all courts judges are main reason for these kind of law being implemented these judges delay justice go for vacations and enjoy when tarik pe tarik are being palyed out. Now they come and discuss in public. First Judges must clear all the pending cases and discuss how to dispose these ASAP with time line.
This disgusting UCC UK need to be scrapped ASAP
I thought Uttarakhand is going to be the Silicon valley of North India once the Expressways are built, but these kind of laws will scare away people coming to that part of the country. This is ridiculous.
Could it be challenged in the high court & Supreme court?
Yes... Give it to Chandrachud Jr... Answer in 20 yrs after settling the Salman case.
It's already been challenged in court
I don’t think any parents would like their daughters to live-in.
However, if parents are unmindful then the law should be scrapped.
Minimum government... maximum intrusion.
Why would any one wants to register their personal lives, this is completely personal life of two individual people in their own life's. Even in marriages there are lot of cases where husband killed wife or wife killed husband. Instead of showing interest in live in relationships, government should give justice to Olympic medal winners wrestlers sexually assaulted, Manipur women who were forced to parade naked, BHU IIT girl who got raped by BJP it cell members
Just like Baccha Allah ki den but Modi should provide employment.😂😂😂
@@SubhashishBagchi is he able to give employment to all Hindus who were born legitimate? Don't get blind over religion. Talk about Manipur issue, Olympic medal winners wrestlers sexually assaulted by BJP MP brijbhushan, bhu IIT girl who got raped by BJP it cell members. In the last two cases both victims and culprits are Hindus only. There is no live in relationships in these cases. Instead of solving these they want to check what happening in personal life's? China occupied ladakh 2000sq kms, it's not my saying ex BJP MP subramanian swamy saying with evidence. Why government not focussing on these matters
@@SwarajyaLakshmi-i1ehe doesn't able to provide jobs to 100% muslims, because and only because 100% muslims are not unemployed.
@@SwarajyaLakshmi-i1e According to Indian Muslims and Leftist at time of implementation of CAA and NRC - All Religion should be treated equally.
Now when UCC is implemented by government as UCC exist as a provision of constitution then Indian Muslims and Leftist saying all Religion should not be treated equally
What kind of dilemma is this 😁😁😁
@@SwarajyaLakshmi-i1e I am from Assam North east and we know how illegal immigration is a huge issue over here. Since last 60 years the insurgency and illegal immigration are beautiful gift of Congress to North east.
We know Kukki in India and in Burma are involve in drug smuggling across the borders and both Indian and Burmese Army are trying best to curb the smuggling issue. Therefore Indian government with permission from Burmese government decided to built a wall but Kukki population doing chaos. Manipur issue occurs because of extreme illegal migration into India from Burma
Let the people enjoy Law made by the lawmakers elected by them.
Tourism will come to an end!! Bol ta ra ra ra
This is highly patriarchal and tries to establish Manu Smriti!
Better than to allow Leftists to come to Power, who will indirectlyl allow Shitty Sharia Law to be established.
Is live in relations registrations the only concern with UCC at UK..
@4:56 . ....failure to do so can lead to 3month of imprisonment
Government is like, जेल खाली हैं, तो जगहा भरना हैं, तो क्या करे चलो "ए तुम लिव्ह इन में रहते हो और रजिस्टर नहीं किया, चलो जेल में" "ए तुम पहले लिव्ह इन में रहते थे, अब नहीं रहते, चलो जेल में"
Couples are like "हम करे तो करे क्या" साथ रहे तो भी सजा, साथ छोड़े तो भी सजा
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Not a second spent on the trampling of a certain personal law, that is sanctioned by the constitution. I guess the right to practice customs, beliefs don't apply to that particular demographic cohort. Bravo!
Was this deliberated in a legislature? Imagine a opposition less scenario. Oh well
They will talk in favour of live in a relationship nevertheless in the favour of Minorities.
Why should any child be illegitimate. That's not a child's mistake also in a society like India the child will have a horrible life. There needs to be a serious discussion on this. No child can be illegitimate
The harassment will happen only if the boy is not a Hindu , under BJP rule. BJP always resorts to duplicity if something cannot be done legally.
I think registration is ok but it should not be criminalized. A penalty of max 5000 per person should be imposed for non registration.
Why??
@@MAYAMENON-e9bI think because this person thinks live in relationships are a sin. Like Saudi Arabia there premarital sex you will be jailed. Because now this is new India a new chakra kaal. Infact in Saudi women dont need to cover their head and there was a music concert. I saw this in the Chinese show. Saudis religious police is being made powerless but a civilized nation like India will soon have a religious police. Welcome to the new chakra kaal
Uttarakhand is back in the dark ages😡
Exceptional and clear interview. Thank you Karan and Justice Lokur🙏🏼
What on earth is an 'illegitimate' child?? If two consenting adults have intercourse and it leads to there being a kid, what possible reason could there be for the child to be 'illegitimate' and be deprived of it's rights as their child?
वो दौर चले गए जब पत्रकारों से सरकार चलता था। कैबिनेट मंत्री पद के लिए पत्रकार सालिशी करते थे और सरकारी खर्चे से प्रधानमंत्री के हवाई जहाज से बैठकर पत्रकार बिदेश यात्रा करते थे और सरकार चलाने के लिए पत्रकारों से सलाह लिया जाता था।
Will a one night stand also become a live in relationship 😉
Do 2 men or 2 women living together have to register as well?
Will it stand judicial scrutiny?the honble judge could have elaborated!
Why wud a government is interested in a private life .. Wtf
UCC by BJP is such a disgrace!
Religious
dictorship
when there is no end to destroy women
across the country
What is the value of anyone's life to someone who has used God to rule .
जिसने भगवन का इस्तेमाल किया है राज करने के लिए उसक लिए किसी की जान की क्या कीमत. ...,,^^•^|•|°^|•°^>
Uttarakhand to become the gay capital! Bizarre law, reeking of imbecility and ridiculousness.
A law is enacted to harass people.What sort of governance is this ? Scrap it immediately to avoid mischief.
Let's play privacy privacy without privacy 😅
Agree with the learned Judge except for the unrealistic statement that it is likely to be scrapped.
The purpose of the registration to count the population which is born without wedlock.
If our government continues this law, then shortly Indian's will reach the some of population which is born under without wedlock...
Which is dangerous for our country. .....
If I hurt someone sorry for that.....
As same sentence said by Mr. Clinton for America's.
Can it not be misused?If any one is having an affair with someone and if they both are being caught from a Hotel or from their residence they can also be booked for having a living relationship and be punished.
30 days in a hotel ... ? only then ....
" One night stands are not in the UCC" .
Khush ?
How Bizarre, bjp is regrettably regressive 😢
How is the right of two adult individuals willing to stay together be a problem to the state? 😂😂😂
What is the purpose of UCC?
I guess you should have consider other aspects also eg . SC kept out of UCC are they not indians? I support your journalism but this interview could have been better. Following you for more interview.
Thanks!
"Likely to be scrapped"? Unlikely, at least in the immediate future, given the atrocious state of our judiciary. It may take ages before it reaches SC, who then will take their own sweet time to dispose it off using some funny logic that they have been accustomed to.
@23:18 .... पहले तो मेन्टेनन्स का प्रावधान हि नहीं होना चाहिए, और अगर हो तो महिला और पुरुष दोनों को मेनटेंनन्स कि मांग करने का प्रावधान समान रूप में उपलब्ध हो
Registering live ins is an excellent idea because it makes ppl aware of the legal rights of the parties involved and will make plenty of ppl realise the game s not worth the candle
If thisguy is a justice I am damned
You can also interview Retired SC Judge KM Joseph and keep him in your panel for discussing important Constitutional matters. He was one of the finest Judges I admired a lot. He will give a different perspective on complex Constitutional subjects.
Approach SC immediately. If you need any assistance I'll talk to Kapil or Abhishek
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Marriage ??
Why don't NGOs and Governments gather data on domestic violence committed by women against men? Why don't legislatures enact the law to protect #MenToo?
Thanks UT govt for equality in society.
The issue is, in India all these journalists are not secular. The are fake or pseudo secular. If these individuals are questioning the registration of live in relation, they should also question the existing need to register marriage. If you say living together is a personal choice, a marriage also personal choice between a man and woman, and why should they inform/register it with government? Thru marriage if a couple is trying to gain tax benefits since, they are living in the same house, sharing public resource, then they should file tax jointly simply as domestic partner and registering marriage can be fully optional. Other places where the advantage of having children (tax credits for children) can be regulated through the woman identifying the father at the time of delivery either through a statement or DNA test, this will give them the evidence for tax credit as well as child-support as needed. If you insist insisting for paternity test is a violation of personal right, the woman should be provided the option not to declare who is the father, then it should be made clear they lose her rights for child support from the male who is responsible for the child. And at this situation you cannot say registering marriage will protect the woman. So, you cannot protect woman in one situation and not in another. So if you want government to stay away from all personal matter, go deep and question everything thing and try to solve them on scientific and optional basis, such as the couples willingness to accept they are living in the same house (whether they are married or not) for them to gain tax benefits and make it compulsory for paternity test at the time of delivery and this will involve a man whether they like it or not. If the woman refuses the paternity test or not willing to name the father of the child on civil rights ground, then the burden will be on the woman and here one should not come to say that marriage should be registered to protect the woman. you cannot have the cake and eat it too.
Because marriage is already established institution which follows certain codified laws (religious or govt statute).
If two consenting adults want to follow it they have all the freedom to marry.
If they don't want to get into it, they find live-in convenient. Why make live-in certified as "marriage-lite".
Extremely stupid for you to even make such illogical claims and post it on the internet for everyone to see.
Most Landlords would demand registration.
Most parents of the Girl would want registration,
India being what it is , it is usually the girl who is physically thrown
into the street with her suitcase and tattered " holdall " in case
there is dispute / altercation / relationship sours.
A majority of Girls would prefer registration
Karan did not pursue intercaste
Karan is obsessed with protecting interfaith.
Especially Muslim Boy - Hindu Girl .
Say it aint so Mr Thapar.
Many families kill one or both in the live in relationship.
Family Honor thing. Its in the culture and the DNA.
Registration gives the Police some evidence and a paper trail to follow up .
Registration can help in case of a rape allegation.( Girl looks at something
in the guy's phone , goes bananas )
Karan ..... Let the guest talk .... do not lead him with your agenda.
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No need to throw out the baby with the bathwater.
Pass the law as is , Let Justice Chandrachud strike it down.
Karan .. grow up .
Just don't live in Uttrakhand 😅
खैराती खलियार, सोरोस गैंग ,खान मार्केट गैंग
No data is required to understand that crimes will decrease if live ins are forced to register . Registration will reduce the no of live ins and logically will reduce crimes
Why are you not talking about full law
Registering live relationship protects both men and women. In case of men, women cannot claim based on promise of marriage for example. The benefits such as medical insurance, children etc. will also be protected including property for surviving partner. However, it should only involve registration with authorities having no right to approve or investigate. Similarly no fines or jail time.
The problem is the current govt is too singular minded about any policy. No capacity for multi dimensional approach or taking into account different perspectives.
What happens when foreigners visit, and live there for a few months for a holy pilgrimage, and are in a live in relationship, which is so common all over the world?
It was not parental permission, only informing the parents
I support UCC.
The folks are bad not the law. The laws are made to make life easy for all and it what UCC serves us to be on the same platform to perform grow.
Would former Prime Minister Vajpayee have had to register his live in relationship and the child born of the relationship under such an Act? Is there an age limit for presuming that a livein relationship exists? For example, what about a post menopausal woman who lives with a man, for safety etc.?
Madan Lokur sir, your intentions look dubious. Are you also vying for a RS seat from INDIA alliance? I doubt they'll have any left to give after 2024. Please hedge your bets and come to the center.
Request to you pls change your opinion and I think you should change your eyesight.
Whats wrong with you guys.
@@Neel454 Thank you for not abusing me for my opinions. I'm definitely willing to have a conversation with anyone whose supporting Madan sir with an open mind, but my only precondition is it should be civil.
@@diglive123 I'll not abuse anyone, and we all should shows our parenting . The point is BJP is not the party , who teach us how to react on the same. This is our parenting and we didn't believe that India got freedom after 2014. We should know what BJP wants to serve the nation in upcoming years. Thanks 🙏
@@Neel454At least I never claim that India got independence in 2014. We should all respect our founding fathers and mothers, including JLN. But what I have a problem with is the sycophancy around the Gandhi family, and their new narrative of the North-South divide. I can't stand this being peddled by portals like The Wire, and is one of the main reasons why I'm gonna support BJP in 2024.
Do I think that party is perfect? Definitely no. I have many reservations about how they're alienating 20 percent of Indians, but I'll swallow the bitter pill and vote for them coz I'm afraid if INC comes to power, we're going to have a repeat of 1947 partition.
Edit: And I have serious reservations on journalists like Arfa Khanum, Karan Thapar, Rajdeep Sardesai and the lot. I was an avid watcher of Vir Sanghvi and Barkha Dutt too, but they destroyed their credibility (at least in my eyes), after the Radia tapes, and the same happened to me yesterday after you-know-who became a RS member. How can we trust these journalists and opinion makers, if they have their own ulterior motives?😢😢
God blessed Modi ji,
All of you can’t do anything except weeping.
Modiji himself is the GOD. He doesn't need GOD's blessings.
Yes gomuthra nagpur half knickers you are right
Was it a joke😂😂.@@renukabhattacharya8008
Gays and lesbians are welcome to Uttrakhand as per this law... Cheers to them all..
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Madan Lokur & respected ? What a joke Karan ! He is bigger joker than u
Why then do you waste your time listening to Karan Thapar's programme?
An unregistered live in relationship should not be treated at par with marriage when it comes to maintenance. The couple should know very clearly that the rights and obligations in a live in relationship are different from that in a marriage. You can criminalize if one person wants to exit the live in relationship but is being pressurized by the other person to continue.
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