A Man with a Scan - Ben Heck's 3D Scanner
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ธ.ค. 2013
- Ben takes his use of 3D printers to the next level and tries 3D scanning. He attempts to scan a variety of objects with the Cubify Sense 3D scanner to discover how to get the most out of the device and to create the best prints possible. Ben shows you how to build a rotational device for the scanner and shares what he learns about 3D scanning along the way.
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Another great video! Thank you Ben Heck for inspiring me to start my channel.
Hey Ben, (and company),
I had one of those a couple years ago but couldn't get it to scan correctly. You took more time and fabrication of devices and it came out great! Hats off to you, it looks good.
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Mike
For scanning larger objects I have mounted it on a tripod that is on castor wheels. I have two convergent lasers to help keep distance to target the same, a bit dambusters but seems to work well enough. Lighting seems to make a big difference and trial and error here pays off.
Oh goodie!! Xbox One tearing down by Ben Heck!! I think it would be the most in-depth video ever!
I only subscribed a couple weeks ago (came across the Mini CNC video) I really enjoy watching your videos, even the quirky adverts. I loved this video, not just because it touches on 3d scanning (I've been doing it for a wile with hd webcams+laser levels and microsoft kinects) but when you bulled the turntable out of the microwave I about fell out of my chair. I did the exact same thing with my first scan! lol Keep it up!
You have certainly sold me on this scanner. Im currently using a Ciclpp 3d scanner as a mess around scanner. But this sense scanner mixed with the rotating platform of a ciclop 3d scanner with a movement bar for the sense will be perfect for my needs.
Thank you for a very in depth review
Excellent idea, perfect scan
Awesome! Great intervention!
Really good show, 3d printing always looks really interesting.
thanks for this high quality video
You could combine the two best ways to scan. Hang an abject above the table like you did. But for the mount, make a moon shape so you can move the scanner both below and above the object. Best of both worlds
If you want to have the scanner stationary and the object move, it'd be a lot easier just to build a box around the object out of foam core, that you remove as you turn it. I've done it that way and it works great. You dont need to waste all that time and money on building a whole jig.
Excelente, agotando todas las posibilidades!
Very nice vid. Learned alot how to correctly my Sense 3D scanner.
Liked and subscribed!
Ben you deserve billion subscribers
Ben! You've impressed me once again! You've given me all sorts of ideas!
I'm trying to figure out how to make my LEAP Motion sensor into a 3d scanner!
Damn that's cool. I was I search of a way to mount it and do nice 360s when I found this video. And I always watch your videos! This one I must have missed. Then I see it's from 4days ago! What a coincidence :D same scanner, Same idea. I'm trying to use a skateboard wheel bearing and I'm thrinking of using a servo to automatically make it go round. Maybe a part two? Great show Ben!
Hey Ben you should make cordless sotering iron. So all you have to do is take apart a sotering iron that plugs into a charger, and the charger unplugs to for easy use. To make it easyer to work with multiple projects in different places and not have to worry about have to wait for your iron to heat up.
I think that was a great idea now all that has to be done is mounting the laptop to that stick of wood and your good to go for a long time.
Great work!
Thank you for the video! :)
Hi Ben
Loving your videos, slowly working my way backwards through all of them.
Quick question, would this scanner scan a full sized car?
If so what would the resolution be like due to the distance from the object (probably like 20ft to get around a large Cadillac)?
Thanks :-)
With the moving scanner arm, you could make it a bit more electronic by adding a set of gears and a motor to raise and lower the scanner using buttons as you walk around your object. Doing that would allow for very small increments, there for making the 3d object more detailed. Different gearing would allow for larger or smaller movements in an upwards and downwards direction.
Looking forward to the teardown :D
Hi,
thank you for your video! Pretty useful! But could you tell us what is the angle of your curve?
Nice video, Ben! Thanks for the pointers. We have a Sense here at work and did find similar conclusions such as the white vs black floor as well as the referencing of the changing backgrounds as you walk around your object. Our main concern for buying the sense was converting a scan to a 3D CAD model for Solidworks. How can we check accuracy of the dimensions of the scan before going into CAD?
HI.
Nice hack, will definitely be trying the white surface! :) I have tried a similar but opposite idea, where I use a cake decorating stand/turntable so the object turns rather than the scanner (which is stationary on a tripod). Have had to do it this way I don't have the space to easily move around the object. However, I am still finding that the scanner loses it's position a lot, often having to restart, even though I move incredibly slowly. Can you think if there is there a particular reason the scanner does this? Thanks
Great video, do you think adding a laser pointer to the scanner would help with doing free hand scans?
@Ben- If you setup a studio environment so that your table has registration marks.. you can go back to the rotating table. You have to make sure the Sense can ONLY see your objects and the registration marks.
This does 2 things for your scan
1. Keeps the camera 100% stable
2. Reduces resource needs on your Sense/Laptop so more FPS's are spent capturing your object.
Ben, do you think that a motorized controlled scan would enhance the quality? Basically is there a scan timing limit of how fast the scanner slices it's scanning object. Just wondering, since walking it around might make for an uneven scan.
To avoid the dual dance / tandem rotating event around the table, you could build a mount on the end of the arm and put the laptop on there.
Thanks for the video!
that's actually a really fast and detailed scan for that little thing. Interesting...
Interesting stuff!
For those who can't afford a 3d-scanner, there's a free program by autodesk, which lets you make 3d models from photos, it's named 123D Catch.
Also, if you would print a Grid as a base, wouldn't that help with the accuracy of the scan?
Old comment i know, never the less Autodesk sucks hobo ass. In fact they discontinued that software 2 years ago.
free alternatives are
3DF Zephyr Free (image limit to 50)
COLMAP (no textures)
VisualSFM (works great but has trouble finding patterns in smooth things, you have to also install a plugin to generate dense point clouds plus you need another software to create meshes from the point clouds)
Beware than many of this programs are only for personal use.
Nice to see Rusty back.
This video had a good intro, keep this one.
Ben I have one also, and It works way better if you only move the scanner and the object and surrounding areas are still.
Would it be helpful to have some sort of lighting rig for the rotating scanner mount? From what I have read, these scanners need good lighting to produce a good 3d image.
the rotating arm is great. but i think it would be nicer if the arm was pressed between two bearings and the bearings be attatched one to the table and the other to the plataform giving the arm a pretty smoth motion while keeping the plataform steady, also a mount for the laptop on the arm itself so one can guide and check the results at the same time.
Wow cool scanner, I would like to have that.
I got one for sale
It's been 5 years - could you guys by chance do a new video on this, perhaps with DIFFERENT scanners, to see what the differences are? Also, if you could find a way to juryrigg TWO scanners together, so that you can scan from two angles at the same time, then that would be hella' cool! Basically, perhaps it could shorten scan-time in half? If one had 4 scanners working in tandem... then that would be the dream.
Miss this show as it was 😩 was so more inspirational if not the most of all DIY/hack channels
What about scanning larger body size objects? 1st timer. Great video. Thanks
I've used a Faro Edge at work with a laser scanner. Accuracy is about 0.1mm. You're looking at upwards of $100k for a kit in addition to a reverse engineering software upgrade. So I guess going through the trouble of designing a dynamic scanning frame for this $460 unit isn't too bad. The objects with colors look like they came out of Counter-Strike Source!
hey man! do you think you could use this scanner with some type of wood, metal or foam milling machine (cnc)?
So you could use a perspective table and then 4 fishing lines to suspend from the ceiling so you can scan from beneath?
Thumbs Up for Ben, SMH for not using a lazy-susan and making the scanner & laptop stationary.
I live in the UK and asda (a big supermarket) has taken advantage of these 3d scanners and offering a family 3d printout for £30 of a generic colour and I think £50 for a full colour 3d print, there quite cool!
hi, there are some lights or colored lights they can be used as backup to have a better definition of the scanned object???
Greetings.
Dumb question, but if you wanted to use the tripod mount, you could bolt the sector/slidy plate on the outside edge of the bar; surely better than industrial velcro?
You really love your 3D printer, I can't wait for them to become cheap enough for everyone to have one.
Well hasn’t your dream come true lmqo
@@mattchumoore4214 Certainly has!
laptop shelf/platform would be a great addition.
I mounted my Sense in a printed frame that holds a Venue Pro 8 tablet. Really makes portability easy. The scanner works good but rarely do I go straight to the printer. I little stop in the Blender software puts things right.
I have one of these and it confounds me why it wont work with the scanner still and the object on a turn table. Now I have to engineer a massive apparatus and get around the limitations of the cord and visibility. It really seems the the cube people have epic ideas with medeocre execution.
Based on the mini arcade results, have you considered using an acrylic cylinder to raise an object up and be able to scan under it?
lol they shd do Ben Wrecked set of episodes -where he's either shipwrecked or spaced ;) oh and you need a #Robot in the shop guys!
Do you have the Adobe illustrator file for the laser please? We have one of these scanners at the school i teach and I could see the massive potential in being able to use the scanner on a movable table.
IMO, the Maker Bot digitizer is far superior. It scans on its own, has more sensors, and can beam directly to printers.
"Upside-down machine gun [MAGAZINE]." :P
Or the British Bren ;)
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Thank you! It's silly but it bugs me too!
Ben Heck - The tech god! Ha please do a teardown of the PS vita and Novint Falcon.
how did you figure out the angles for the scanner mount, trial and error, or is there a method to the madness?
yes, he's in!
What are the sizes of the wood pieces? would like to recreate them for my sense.
Thanks!
very nice kit but you should have tried the red hat either hanging from the rim so its on its side? or standing on the table? then the scanner scan see the top and whats inside too?
hey ben wat if u had a stepper motor under the platform to were it rotated the arm and the usb cable for the scanner was extended to the center and came out the side of a table to were u wouldn't have to walk around the table wit the scanner and pc
what about rotate the platform with the object? in that way you never move the scanner but the object. I do it like this, and it works pretty cool!
Quite a difference from current videos, but cool non the less
That mounting plate would track better up and.down if you used 2 sets of bolts like car wheels. With just 2 bolts, it rotates around the middle.of the parallel tracks a bit. Pretty neat solution you made though...
If you scan something, can you change the size of the print? Meaning, can you splice it so that you have a few pieces that when glued together, would be the same size as the original object?
if a rotating arm works, a rotating platform will work just as wel.. print a grid on the table to center your object.. and you can mount the scanner on a stationary arm.. so you don't have to run around with a laptop.. Add a motor to rotate the object.. and you're done!
I wish you were my uncle!!!! (or something along those lines) You could teach me so much!!!!
Try running in Polyworks, they have an iphone/android app so you can see what you're scanning.
Es que eres para mí lo soñado Ben . Eres el amo del diseño todo lo que había soñado contigo se hace realidad de forma muy sencilla. Te veo desde españa pero soy nacido de Santo Domingo (capital).😍😍
I totally didnt see this show! my apologies for asking you to do this :)
Thanks for the great video! I have a Sense scanner and found it difficult to scan smaller objects. Your tips and ideas are going to make my scans better and easier. Starting to design a platform for "center" aimed scanning.
Even the expensive ones are shit. I bought a 4k scanner last year and it took forever to get it going. And scan to CAD is a Joke. Next engine is no better than a MS Kinect.
Wow.. Even the 4k scanner was crap, that sucks. I am currently working with my neighbor to build a rig and turntable to scan with the MS Kinect.
Will keep you posted on the quality and functionality if you are interested. BTW, I think 3D Systems should have allowed returns for the Sense, it is OK, but not the best. Tracking is an issue that needs to be fixed.
How did that go (with the Kinect)? i Cant get mine to scan anything decently theres always huge holes or imperfections.
Im currently using a Kinect v01 and ReconstructMe
I rescued some synchronous motors from an old shoe shop display, I reckon they would be good for turntables. What would that scanner be like with something like a motorcycle?
I am more interested in relief carving rather than full 3d
Ben what if you add a light to this setup that way you have a constant light source
Do you think you could mount this on a small drone to get 3D images of buildings?
There is already a platform that allows you to do what you want, research www.pix4d.com or www.dronedeploy.com.
have the arm turn with a motor and a worm gear underneath for consistent slow turning
Have you tried making an elevated base made of transparent plastic? I believe this would lift the object and would be invisible for the scanner.
Might be a good substitute for hanging stuff from the ceiling :)
Aw, if only I had one of these. :).
did yall think about attaching two strings from the ceiling locking in the point of rotation then rotate the scanner making sure no slack is in the line?
Usually shiny surfaces are hard to 3d reconstruct. When something is shiny it looks different depending on the prospective. The black square may have been too shiny.
Hey.
Im currently trying to figure out if i can use an arduino UNO, Sharp GP2Y0A21YK to make an stl file, for import to Sketchup or like that.
Do you have an idéa of witch sensor is used by the scanner?
Regards from Denmark.
Hi Ben i love the videos you made about making videoconsole.
I hope you see this comment and maybe make some more.
You can use black or white for you surface, but it is most important to be a NON-reflective surface, and obviously not any colors of your object
3D scanner was used in old Fallout games to scan real life models and put them into the game as sprites.
I have not get a good sharpness when I scanning people. what my PC or laptop requires? . Any advice with illumination?
A few improvements:
Use a glass table, obviously the camera will look through it.
Don't spend any money on a scanner but instead a normal camera and software like visualSFM and meshlab or reconstructme.
Having tried all those, even beta testers for primesense, and also owning the Sense. BUY THE SENSE.
Also glass tables throw off the laser light. So scanning through glass will generate specular interference which will create scanning anomalies
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not glass but that plastic that the arcade was made of.
kenrick encinas
To be more precise: a transparent material with a (very) low index of refraction that lets infra-red pass through as well. (With little reflection)
Laser Gnomes
In case of visualSFM which uses just seperate pictures you can take pictures from underneath and from above the table without seeing the edge. If the index of refraction is very low and the transparent material is thin then you shouldn't have much trouble.
The reflection issue can be solved with a sillicon-anti-reflection-coating which is used on solar panels. So if you found/bought a broken solar panel perhaps you can take the glass cover off.
Sadly photogrammetry is not sufficient for our needs. We really need that depth data that cannot be captured using shadow comparisons. Additionally we are not always allowed the courtesy of coating our subjects with anti-reflective coatings or even talcum. In some cases even the laser is subject to scrutiny as damaging of the subjects.
Will check out visualSFM but if it's photo don't have much hopes for it. Have used various other photo based to the same end result.
Laser Gnomes
It can use video's as well (at least I've seen people doing it or converting it to pictures).
And the result looks pretty much the same as Bens scan here if you have enough pictures.
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forgot to say: I was talking about a coat of silicone on the bottom side of the table, that's the surface that could reflect things into the camera. So you don't touch the object to scan.
Since it's got a tripod mount on it, you technically could use a glidecam rig to smooth out the motion.
Make a mount for the computer on the wood so that it makes it a lot easier to move and only requires one person to scan something
Hang object form ceilling while rotating it, fix the scanner, use white background
I wish you could release the designs online for us to access and make please
We do what we can github.com/thebenheckshow
+The Ben Heck Show you are awesome, I am interested in 3D printing and before I got my first printer I saw your show and learned about FDM printing which helped me a lot
plz reply if u kno, can u use this scanner to make 3d objects for games
What scanner is that and what software did you use?
Dude, where did you get that Pac-Man game? I had one when I was younger and haven't see one since! Just the other day I was thinking about how much I loved playing on it.
I've had it forever!
For some reason this started playing right in the middle of my willys jeep videos. Gotta love TH-cam. Oh well I like bens videos
How about keeping the scanner fixed in one position and rotating the object ? would this idea work i would be interested to see :) also i love all of your videos im waiting on an Xbox One Build lol
why not put a view finder on it, just a little scope you can look throu and see exactly where its pointed
we can use this 3d images on 3ds max ?