Thank you Michael. It is my first time to see "Blocking in" while watching photos.I thought it was an important stage to understand the picture of the whole picture.Perhaps Michael explains to us politely, but Japanese people are hard to listen to English and so I will listen to it many times everyday and study. Every time it will be difficult , but please also have when you have another landscape. I really appreciate it.
For me, this video was a very wonderful surprise in the morning... I can't express my pleasure. Really thank you and thanks so much for showing us the reference picture with the pallet in the same time ... soooooo happy moments
Hi Mike, watched a few Videos over the years but must say yours are very well produced and have just converted to oils after doing a lot of graphite drawing, your work is brilliant and easy to follow, I am getting better thanks to your helpful videos Thank you. Fred
Hello again Mr Genius Artist and thanks for another great upload. I don't seem to need to ask questions; virtually every time I think of one you answer it.
Thank you. I will try acrylic for blocking on my next painting to see how it goes. Waiting for oils to dry has been difficult, so this appears to be an excellent solution. I also appreciate your view of the source photo and palette throughout the process. Great work, great videos!
Excellent lesson! Showing pallet, reference photo, even app photo of perspective block-in (I definitely use an app for possible block-in and also studying several different attitudes of strengths and weaknesses of subject matter) plus superb advice on your part. And this video had exemplary music! Very moving quality instrumental. Good one, SirMikey.
Thank you for your time and posting this....and explaining the concepts. Enjoy your videos so much....your a master artist...God bless from across the pond...
I am so in love with your painting that I bought 16 colors in Griffin (also some pigments and alkyd gel) and I am ready to start. Thank you soooo much for sharing your immense talent !
Hello and thank you for your wonderful tutorial. I also appreciate GREATLY the toned-down background music. Some other videos had quite loud, jazzy-y type pop music, which was very difficult to tune out when I was attempting to learn-also your voice is so soft I had to try and strain to hear you past it. Thank you so very much. Cheers
Greetings! Love your teachings I stop painting about 15 years ago but cause of you my interest in learning has been renewed I thank you very much for that sir. just have a request I know in one of your previous post you have us a quick look at your methods of making a panel but please I would appreciate if you can prepare one from start to finish in any of your future post. Thank you!
Just found your channel and really appreciate your video style, just the right amount of narrative and explanation. For less experienced artist like myself the inset of the palette is especially useful for seeing your mixing of the colors.
That was wonderful watching you block in...thank you for taking the time to show us this. Your greens are always spot on... I know I've seen so many questions about this..and you have the link under the description for the brush co. I've ordered from them..the riggers and Ivory shorts...can I please ask you what is the brush you used here...I see it's a blue handle brush and I cannot find it on the website...also in The newest Birch tree painting you used a brush to stippel with a glaze for the leaves...and a white tipped brush for the sky...I am sorry to bother you in asking this..can you please let me know what kind of brushes these are? The pointed white tip...the one in the birch for stippling and the one in this block in...please...I know your busy and so many ask...I do think having the right tool may help...although it's not going to magically work ...thank you for your time...
I really enjoy seeing the process of your paintings, and the final result, it looks so real! Could you show us how to paint in a bigger canvas, that way we could se the difference of painting landscapes with bigger strokes or brushes? Than you!
I am learning alot from your videos. Thank you very much. Can you please talk a little about your photo references? How do you get them , editing , etc. Also what is the size of your tablet? Thanks again.
thank you for that Michael.. I just wanted to ask how oil paint works on an acrylic... I mean oil n water don't really mix so does it actually help the painting or not?? cz so far I hav done wet on wet oil.. I get good results but wud be interesting to try out wht u show!!
Michael, do you ever paint on location outside? I especially love seeing how you blend. especially as what is taught as color theory isn't always the, "law". You have given me a push by expanding my skill set. I love your attention to detail and your paintings are incredibly. Thank you for sharing!
This channel and these videos are really great. Several questions. Do you ever have the problem of the acrylic drying and leaving lumps and impasto that you didn't want there?, Do you try and make the proportion of your photo reference exactly match the ratio of your canvas board?, Do you measure out your preliminary drawing at all or do you just freehand it and draw it by eye? And if you wanted to could you just draw a quick pencil sketch and then immediately start using oils and skip the acrylic block in if you felt like it? Thanks again for making these videos.
Hi James you told us what colours you used to block in the sky but can you please tell me what colours you used for the blocking in ie tree colours and water. Basically what colours are on your pallette for this demo? Many Thanks
Hi. Michael. I love all your painting videos. Need lot of patience. I feel very relaxed watching your videos, when I am stressed out. Thanks for these lovely videos. Please paint an urban cityscapes for a change. How do you keep your acrylic paints wet? In india it dries within 3 to 4 mins. Appreciate your feedback and guidance. It's about 32 to 35 Deg Celcius right now here. Thanks.
Telelikeitis , hi...if you listen to Michael at the 41sec Mark and on he explains why he blocks in using acrylics. Sorry, I don't know if your familiar, please don't take offense....however, all paintings start with a blocking in stage...using oil you would look for the correct values....hope this helps.
Noble Valerian hi, yes I understood what he was asking...with landscapes ...yes there is a blocking in...regarding his statement of not worrying about getting the colors correct...this is because the blocking in with acrylic is just a block in...when he paints with oils that's when he's getting the values correct... I was referring to this style of painting...direct or indirect method....yes all have a block in stage...
Hello Michael, thank for starting again from the beginning. I take the opportunity to ask you if you could explain again ( on next step ) when is useful to use white spirit and when the best medium is liquin. Thank you for your teaching. A question more: do you paint again the sky in oil? Have a nice day. Patrizia
+Patrizia Elia hi, the white spirits is to thin the oils to achieve details...the consistency I would say is like ink...or milk...the liquin is used to go over perhaps a section of the oils that has dried...when the oil dries it's like matt...applying liquin brings the oil back ...as if it is wet...also liquin is used for glazing...hope this helps.
Also, Michael does paint all of the acrylic block in..(underpainting) over it with oils..yes the sky is painted with oils. You wouldn't want to have a painting with two different mediums as in this case oils and acrylic showing in the final painting...unless your perhaps doing a mixed media.
Michael el maestro del paisaje y los detalles, como seria de increíble que sus videos también fueran en español para aprender todo sobre la técnica de este gran maestro, he repasado una y otra vez cada uno de sus videos.
I have a lot of difficulty in doing storm clouds - like a really dark, brooding sky, could you perhaps do one, sometime? It would be great to learn from you. Thanks a lot, and the music was wonderful!
Good Job Michael! I've tried detailing trees like yours in acrylics...but can't seem to get it to work well. Perhaps the paint is too thin. The leaves tend to blend together too much. Also, after your acrylic blocking in, will you make a complete cover in oils or will some of the acrylic still be seen in the final painting? I may need to give oils a try, as you are doing.
+Paul Turner, if I may suggest...I'm not an acrylic painter, however, I do know with acrylics you must wait for one layer to dry...and add layers...also Maybe an acrylic medium may help in thinning the paint ...and having an opaque (dash of ) mixed in. The Cads are opaque... Finally, yes from watching all of Michael's videos, after his block in of the acrylics...he then proceeds to paint with oils in it's entirety. You wouldn't want the final painting to have two mediums such as an acrylic and an oil paint show thru in the final painting...unless you would be doing a mixed media....hope this helps.
WELL after I saw the beginning of your video several times, I think now I understand what is blocking in in acrylic. what type of material are you using as canvas? (how do you call it? you probably said it but since i dont' know the words, I will understand better if you write it, I think so I can ask at the store the proper name. Thank you.
Hi Michael, If I would do the under-painting in oil, would I need to apply retouching varnish after the 4 days it would take to dry, before I paint in oil again?
That was enjoyable, just subbed.. heard of your channel from Gigiscottos on FB. I guess I have alot of catching up to do. A MJS marathon, let me get cracking. Your works are breathtaking.
Is there nay way I can mimic liquin with mineral spirits and linseed. When I paint thinly with oil over darker color its kinda transparent not bold like yours unless I put thick paint which I dont want
please i need help. English is my secon language and I do not understan what do you mean 1. ''to block in'' or ''not to block in'' 2. And I think, I understand , that you use acrylic as base or under painting because it dries faster? 3. And which color is between red and bright green on your palette in the video,? white, cobalt blue, alizarin crimson red?, possible ____ brn. umber ___?, permanent green, yellow, and ______black? its hard for me (I am a beginner, to see when you mix the greens, you are getting so many different tones. Thank you so much for your tutorials, I am leaning a lot.
yes. Just wondering what tips you have keeping acrylics workable while doing large sections of an underpaintings (sky for example)?. Im probably just a bit slow at it as Im still learning and i live in a fairly dry climate country.
What are the colors of the oil paint you use? What other materials like mediums and acrylics do you use? Would you later show us in a video about it? Im planing to paint like this.
Oops! After painting in oils for over 50 years, I just changed my style to photo-realistic and I now realize, with blocking in my first painting, that of a large blue lake in Canada, I have overdone it. That’s an understatement. I have blocked in about 1/3 of the painting, used probably 20 different colors and it took me six hours. Looking on the bright side of things, this should be a true masterpiece when completed. Live and learn.
I'm now ready to outline, but having a difficult time finding a photograph that has a good balance between background, middleground and foreground. Is this the bane of your work? Do you take your own photos?
I finally found a good photo and blocked it in on Tuesday. The blocking went really well! My problem now is that I'm using far too much paint (And too dark). I notice you are very efficient with your paint because you use a very small amount to cover a large area. I'm using a large amount to cover a small area. The reason why is because creating fine detail is difficult. I'm leaving fat dots of detail on the canvas instead of tiny ones. I'm using Turpenoid to thin out the paint, but the detail is still too fat. I'm headed to Blick today to get some white spirit and some different brushes. Hopefully I can figure out how to thin the paint and get a delicate touch.
56dlp Hi, here is a website that has royalty free photos...and there is another..I think it's called pimp my photo...hope This helps...with photos you can always change the contents to fit your canvas...and maybe take a few photos and put different elements from each to come up with a balanced composition...
56dlp Hi..Michael has a video explaining and demos how he preps the boards and what kind of primer he uses....have to watch all of his videos...you will really learn something in each one...hope you enjoy...have a MJS marathon...
Watch all of his videos...you will find one where he talks about what kind of board..the name of primer and demos how he preps them...you will learn a lot from listening to all of his videos...enjoy...have a cup of java and a MJS marathon...well worth it...
Made a huge mistake...I started painting acrylics on a dry canvas without any gesso. Now I remember that your MDF panels are coated with acrylic paint first. Oops! My first effort with acrylics. I’ll go buy white gesso and prep it first.
I love being able to see the photo and the pallet at the same time. That really helps!
Thank you... you are an inspiration to all of us. Not only are you gifted but you are incredibly generous with your time.
Nice one sir... I like the way you start your painting... And i apply it in my art works.. Thank you for sharing...
Thanks again Michael. I look forward to each and every installment!
My Gosh😘 Sir Smith even the block alone would sell😍
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Hahaha haha my thoughts as well hahaha
Thank you Michael. It is my first time to see "Blocking in" while watching photos.I thought it was an important stage to understand the picture of the whole picture.Perhaps Michael explains to us politely, but Japanese people are hard to listen to English and so I will listen to it many times everyday and study. Every time it will be difficult , but please also have when you have another landscape. I really appreciate it.
The blocking is already so beautiful !
Great EXAMPLE - with mixing technique - Thank You for sharing!
For me, this video was a very wonderful surprise in the morning... I can't express my pleasure. Really thank you and thanks so much for showing us the reference picture with the pallet in the same time ... soooooo happy moments
Hassan Elagha
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Hi Mike, watched a few Videos over the years but must say yours are very well produced and have just converted to oils after doing a lot of graphite drawing, your work is brilliant and easy to follow, I am getting better thanks to your helpful videos Thank you.
Fred
Thank you Michael, another exciting adventure! See you tomorrow YEH!
Thank you for sharing with us. You are very good teacher!🌸
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Hello again Mr Genius Artist and thanks for another great upload. I don't seem to need to ask questions; virtually every time I think of one you answer it.
I absolutely love to watch the process! Thank you Micheal, until next time.👍👍
Thank you. I will try acrylic for blocking on my next painting to see how it goes. Waiting for oils to dry has been difficult, so this appears to be an excellent solution. I also appreciate your view of the source photo and palette throughout the process. Great work, great videos!
Excellent lesson! Showing pallet, reference photo, even app photo of perspective block-in (I definitely use an app for possible block-in and also studying several different attitudes of strengths and weaknesses of subject matter) plus superb advice on your part. And this video had exemplary music! Very moving quality instrumental. Good one, SirMikey.
Thank you for your time and posting this....and explaining the concepts. Enjoy your videos so much....your a master artist...God bless from across the pond...
I am so in love with your painting that I bought 16 colors in Griffin (also some pigments and alkyd gel) and I am ready to start.
Thank you soooo much for sharing your immense talent !
Hello and thank you for your wonderful tutorial. I also appreciate GREATLY the toned-down background music. Some other videos had quite loud, jazzy-y type pop music, which was very difficult to tune out when I was attempting to learn-also your voice is so soft I had to try and strain to hear you past it. Thank you so very much. Cheers
Greetings! Love your teachings I stop painting about 15 years ago but cause of you my interest in learning has been renewed I thank you very much for that sir. just have a request I know in one of your previous post you have us a quick look at your methods of making a panel but please I would appreciate if you can prepare one from start to finish in any of your future post. Thank you!
Magic brush stroke,J'aime beaucoup.
Just found your channel and really appreciate your video style, just the right amount of narrative and explanation. For less experienced artist like myself the inset of the palette is especially useful for seeing your mixing of the colors.
That was wonderful watching you block in...thank you for taking the time to show us this. Your greens are always spot on...
I know I've seen so many questions about this..and you have the link under the description for the brush co. I've ordered from them..the riggers and Ivory shorts...can I please ask you what is the brush you used here...I see it's a blue handle brush and I cannot find it on the website...also in The newest Birch tree painting you used a brush to stippel with a glaze for the leaves...and a white tipped brush for the sky...I am sorry to bother you in asking this..can you please let me know what kind of brushes these are?
The pointed white tip...the one in the birch for stippling and the one in this block in...please...I know your busy and so many ask...I do think having the right tool may help...although it's not going to magically work ...thank you for your time...
I really enjoy seeing the process of your paintings, and the final result, it looks so real! Could you show us how to paint in a bigger canvas, that way we could se the difference of painting landscapes with bigger strokes or brushes? Than you!
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I am learning alot from your videos. Thank you very much. Can you please talk a little about your photo references? How do you get them , editing , etc. Also what is the size of your tablet? Thanks again.
great stuff, been waiting for a walk though from start to finish.
Great way to start my morning! Thanks so much
Très bon exemple et bien expliqué. Merci Michael.
thank you very much bro, you are very helpful person, sharing the basic painting with us...
fantastic help I've learned a lots,, your ''blocking in'' looks better than some of my paintings
Thank you so much for this Michael! Very helpful and informative.
thank you for that Michael.. I just wanted to ask how oil paint works on an acrylic... I mean oil n water don't really mix so does it actually help the painting or not?? cz so far I hav done wet on wet oil.. I get good results but wud be interesting to try out wht u show!!
Michael, do you ever paint on location outside?
I especially love seeing how you blend. especially as what is taught as color theory isn't always the, "law". You have given me a push by expanding my skill set.
I love your attention to detail and your paintings are incredibly. Thank you for sharing!
Keep up the great work!
This channel and these videos are really great. Several questions.
Do you ever have the problem of the acrylic drying and leaving lumps and impasto that you didn't want there?,
Do you try and make the proportion of your photo reference exactly match the ratio of your canvas board?,
Do you measure out your preliminary drawing at all or do you just freehand it and draw it by eye?
And if you wanted to could you just draw a quick pencil sketch and then immediately start using oils and skip the acrylic block in if you felt like it?
Thanks again for making these videos.
Hi James you told us what colours you used to block in the sky but can you please tell me what colours you used for the blocking in ie tree colours and water. Basically what colours are on your pallette for this demo? Many Thanks
Hi. Michael. I love all your painting videos. Need lot of patience. I feel very relaxed watching your videos, when I am stressed out. Thanks for these lovely videos. Please paint an urban cityscapes for a change. How do you keep your acrylic paints wet? In india it dries within 3 to 4 mins. Appreciate your feedback and guidance. It's about 32 to 35 Deg Celcius right now here. Thanks.
love your painting
Mais um grande trabalho! Vou acompanhar atentamente! Um grande abraço.
Michael, could you tell us the reason you block in and not just go straight to painting the final painting with oil?
Thanks for the videos.
Telelikeitis , hi...if you listen to Michael at the 41sec Mark and on he explains why he blocks in using acrylics. Sorry, I don't know if your familiar, please don't take offense....however, all paintings start with a blocking in stage...using oil you would look for the correct values....hope this helps.
Noble Valerian hi, yes I understood what he was asking...with landscapes ...yes there is a blocking in...regarding his statement of not worrying about getting the colors correct...this is because the blocking in with acrylic is just a block in...when he paints with oils that's when he's getting the values correct...
I was referring to this style of painting...direct or indirect method....yes all have a block in stage...
Thank you very much Joy. Michael never answers my questions. You helped me a lot.
Telelikeitis your welcome...he is a busy guy...anytime...
He has not answered any of my questions either...as Joy stated, "he is a busy guy"
The awesome mjs !!!!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!!!
Hello Michael, thank for starting again from the beginning. I take the opportunity to ask you if you could explain again ( on next step ) when is useful to use white spirit and when the best medium is liquin. Thank you for your teaching. A question more: do you paint again the sky in oil? Have a nice day. Patrizia
+Patrizia Elia hi, the white spirits is to thin the oils to achieve details...the consistency I would say is like ink...or milk...the liquin is used to go over perhaps a section of the oils that has dried...when the oil dries it's like matt...applying liquin brings the oil back ...as if it is wet...also liquin is used for glazing...hope this helps.
Also, Michael does paint all of the acrylic block in..(underpainting) over it with oils..yes the sky is painted with oils. You wouldn't want to have a painting with two different mediums as in this case oils and acrylic showing in the final painting...unless your perhaps doing a mixed media.
Thank you Joy Pittura for your explanation. Michael also answered by the next video n°66. So I'm double glad. Thanks to both of you. :-)
Patrizia Elia your welcome...happy Holidays...and paint on...
Very methodical!
Michael el maestro del paisaje y los detalles, como seria de increíble que sus videos también fueran en español para aprender todo sobre la técnica de este gran maestro, he repasado una y otra vez cada uno de sus videos.
Thank you SO MUCH for this. I really get this process now.
I have a lot of difficulty in doing storm clouds - like a really dark, brooding sky, could you perhaps do one, sometime? It would be great to learn from you. Thanks a lot, and the music was wonderful!
I do too. thank you.
Very Beautiful
Good Job Michael! I've tried detailing trees like yours in acrylics...but can't seem to get it to work well. Perhaps the paint is too thin. The leaves tend to blend together too much. Also, after your acrylic blocking in, will you make a complete cover in oils or will some of the acrylic still be seen in the final painting? I may need to give oils a try, as you are doing.
+Paul Turner, if I may suggest...I'm not an acrylic painter, however, I do know with acrylics you must wait for one layer to dry...and add layers...also Maybe an acrylic medium may help in thinning the paint ...and having an opaque (dash of ) mixed in. The Cads are opaque...
Finally, yes from watching all of Michael's videos, after his block in of the acrylics...he then proceeds to paint with oils in it's entirety. You wouldn't want the final painting to have two mediums such as an acrylic and an oil paint show thru in the final painting...unless you would be doing a mixed media....hope this helps.
WELL after I saw the beginning of your video several times, I think now I understand what is blocking in in acrylic. what type of material are you using as canvas? (how do you call it? you probably said it but since i dont' know the words, I will understand better if you write it, I think so I can ask at the store the proper name. Thank you.
Very informative, and oh, so good!
The shadows you block in are acrylic as well?
Love it. very nice, thanks mate
Hi Michael, If I would do the under-painting in oil, would I need to apply retouching varnish after the 4 days it would take to dry, before I paint in oil again?
Thank you Michael !
I'm such a fan!
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that's pure genius, I will use adobe for blocking in cuts the effort :o
That was enjoyable, just subbed.. heard of your channel from Gigiscottos on FB. I guess I have alot of catching up to do. A MJS marathon, let me get cracking. Your works are breathtaking.
I'm looking forward to see final results. :)
Is there nay way I can mimic liquin with mineral spirits and linseed. When I paint thinly with oil over darker color its kinda transparent not bold like yours unless I put thick paint which I dont want
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Can you block in with oil instead of acrylic?
Thank you so much for sharing..
please i need help. English is my secon language and I do not understan what do you mean 1. ''to block in'' or ''not to block in'' 2. And I think, I understand , that you use acrylic as base or under painting because it dries faster? 3. And which color is between red and bright green on your palette in the video,? white, cobalt blue, alizarin crimson red?, possible ____ brn. umber ___?, permanent green, yellow, and ______black? its hard for me (I am a beginner, to see when you mix the greens, you are getting so many different tones. Thank you so much for your tutorials, I am leaning a lot.
Thank you very much.
Michael -How do you keep your acrylics from drying too quickly?
yes. Just wondering what tips you have keeping acrylics workable while doing large sections of an underpaintings (sky for example)?. Im probably just a bit slow at it as Im still learning and i live in a fairly dry climate country.
Can one paint the whole composition in acrylics?
What are the colors of the oil paint you use? What other materials like mediums and acrylics do you use? Would you later show us in a video about it? Im planing to paint like this.
michael is still the best!
Oops....sorry I should have waited until the end of the video lol thanks James
Oops! After painting in oils for over 50 years, I just changed my style to photo-realistic and I now realize, with blocking in my first painting, that of a large blue lake in Canada, I have overdone it. That’s an understatement. I have blocked in about 1/3 of the painting, used probably 20 different colors and it took me six hours. Looking on the bright side of things, this should be a true masterpiece when completed. Live and learn.
Thank you
Ey nice. 😆😀😀😀
7:13 - Me showing my whole family the best painting i've ever done.
What is the reason for blocking in? Could it be done without this step?
Notice you didn't block in the whole of the big tree on the left. Was there a reason for that?
I'm now ready to outline, but having a difficult time finding a photograph that has a good balance between background, middleground and foreground. Is this the bane of your work? Do you take your own photos?
I finally found a good photo and blocked it in on Tuesday. The blocking went really well! My problem now is that I'm using far too much paint (And too dark). I notice you are very efficient with your paint because you use a very small amount to cover a large area. I'm using a large amount to cover a small area. The reason why is because creating fine detail is difficult. I'm leaving fat dots of detail on the canvas instead of tiny ones. I'm using Turpenoid to thin out the paint, but the detail is still too fat. I'm headed to Blick today to get some white spirit and some different brushes. Hopefully I can figure out how to thin the paint and get a delicate touch.
Is your MDF board white when you buy it or do you put a layer of white on it?
56dlp Hi, here is a website that has royalty free photos...and there is another..I think it's called pimp my photo...hope This helps...with photos you can always change the contents to fit your canvas...and maybe take a few photos and put different elements from each to come up with a balanced composition...
56dlp Hi..Michael has a video explaining and demos how he preps the boards and what kind of primer he uses....have to watch all of his videos...you will really learn something in each one...hope you enjoy...have a MJS marathon...
I have seen all of his videos. I don't remember him talking about primer on the MDF. All I remember is him sanding it down.
THANK YOU...
great....
Why do you never copy the bright blue skies from photographs? And... could you make a video/masterclass of mixing only primary colours?
you are very fantastic..
You use only panel, without canvas???
Watch all of his videos...you will find one where he talks about what kind of board..the name of primer and demos how he preps them...you will learn a lot from listening to all of his videos...enjoy...have a cup of java and a MJS marathon...well worth it...
TE HAS GANADO EL CIELO,,
where did you find this pictures
how do you fade acrilic?
great
Have you ever used an iPad to paint Michael?
Buen dia, esperando ver el avance de este cuadro (Y)
It seems most 'block in' before painting.... but why block in at all ?
Close to 70,000 views and only 1k Thumbs Up ???? :>(
Eu gostaria que o google tivesse um tradutor de voz porque meu inglês é muito fraco.
Avec le modèle, bien.
Melhor o TH-cam com tradutor de voz.
Made a huge mistake...I started painting acrylics on a dry canvas without any gesso. Now I remember that your MDF panels are coated with acrylic paint first. Oops! My first effort with acrylics. I’ll go buy white gesso and prep it first.
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You ought to have a £1.00 per view Michael,you would be a rich man. :)
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