Eugene Stoner and Mikhail Kalashnikov - Part 4 - Stoner Teaches Kalashnikov Skeet Shooting
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
- This is the final video in a series created from footage of Eugene Stoner and Mikhail Kalashnikov meeting in Virginia in 1990. All the footage is courtesy of the Smithsonian Institution Archives. All I have done is cut some of the waiting time between tapes out and tried to fix the audio. Otherwise, what you are seeing is entirely unadulterated.
Feel free to ask any questions about the various topics of the video in the comments. I will do my best to answer them.
All footage is used with permission from the Smithsonian Institution Archives.
It's a shame we couldn't see them go to the mall together at the end
Where they get into a fist fight with the guy who runs the newspaper stand only to find out he built the first goat-deployed IED. Misha gets rung by the stand owner's nephew Sam who looks oddly related to Gene somehow. Gene's kicking Akbar's ass till a wandering dementia patient trips Gene causing his wallet filled with billions of $$s and some sweet panoramic NVGs to get lost somewhere in the store as the workers of Panda Express look on laughing. 🤣 Honestly it's insane I haven't seen this footage till now this is incredible, the parts where they wish for the day when "the swords will be beaten into plows" or when Misha jokes if he and Gene worked together he'd want to make a hunting rifle. Powerful wise grandpappy vibes.
Or a McDonald's 🤣
The irony of bringing a commie to a US mall. Gene had a sense of humor
@@gregorsamsomeone1184 There was no panda express back in the day.
@@LF12468 Nothing impressive because the 'Commie' didnt miss a thing if he hadnt gone to the mall.
Eugene: He has to yell "Pull".
Translator: "Pull." "Пул!"
Mikhail: "Давай!" (Davai!)
It is even in more polite form. Давайте.
The real hero in these interviews is that translator who has to remember and translate such long statements.
It wouldn't be an issue if he knew this stuff they're talking about, but he doesn't, he has 0 clues about shooting and how guns work so he does a very shitty job tbh.
@@Yaroslav_Tselovanskyi I feel like if they had asked Kalashnikov to bring a translator of his choosing this would have been a non issue
@@mikeyblades1896 I think it's the opposite, this guy seems to be related to Kalashnikov somehow, he's probably more of a friend than a professional translator.
@@mikeyblades1896 I mean, the USSR fell 1 year later so maybe you can't fault them too much. But it is a real shame.
Not really. He was pretty bad at his job.
Two legends are gone but never forgotten
This has to be the most complicated skeet shooting lesson I've ever seen.
He knows the intention, he knows how to shoot a gun. Let the man shoot and learn.
EDIT: Good to see he picks it up later in the round.
He was actually given the wrong instruction the whole time by the incompetent translator. He persistently failed at explaining how and WHY he should adopt the stance Stoner was showing him.
If it wasn’t you saying that it would be someone else saying they didn’t explain it enough and it was unfair they threw him into it the way they did. Maybe he wouldn’t have gotten it by the end of the round without the mansplaining?
@@SelfSustainableJoes He was a firearms genius. It would have taken him ~ two stations of simple observation, and he would have caught on quicker than having to translate unfamiliar terms to him in an attempt to explain. I give him way more credit.
@@alexdelarge1074i understood partially what the translator was saying and it was bad as hell
Is it any wonder that Stoner and Mikhail became such good friends? Thanks for uploading these videos.
"Eugene and Mikhail" or "Stoner and Kalashnikov" more correctly btw :)
They were doing the same thing feeling extremely lonely, founding more relation in each others firearms. They were enemies, but found out they are just two random dudes. That's my impression at least.
@@farshrzg somebody should really make a m16/ak47 rifle, would be interesting to see
SG550 series in the corner of Switzerland:@@lomparti
@@lomparti They have, the CMMG Mk47 Mutant is basically an AR15 with the AK magazine and release.
1:47 Kalashnikov wearing an NRA hat is one of the best things I've ever seen. lol Awesome!
I wish these geniuses would've been in well enough health and lived long enough for the big gun Era of youtube.
It would have been nice to see Kalashnikov’s reaction to the AK-50
@@the1knifepro169
And yet no one else has done it before lol. Brandon Herrera is awesome.
Brandon Herrera hosts Kalashnikov himself!
Been nice to see them watch some current special forces guys operate their weapons thru a few shooting stages. Or even someone like Garand Thumb. It would blow their minds what is capable with their rifles 🤯
"big gun era TH-cam"
Well that's a joke, considering every single gun channel has been demonetized.
Kalashnikov's finger is always on the trigger like a true russian lol
I’m not saying it’s right but I feel like trigger control is sometimes not followed as strictly when clay shooting. I mean you have to have your finger on the trigger before you call pull at least
Trigger discipline wasn't as common as you think until the late 80's and early 90's. Plus, Soviet's had a different mindset and training style then America. Keep in mind, this was filmed in 1990.
@@Twerkulies
Kalasnikov was trained like a tank soldier... not like a infantry one
@@ignacio3890 Every branch in the US get trained on firearms in basic training. Infantry just get more specialized combat training. I'm sure the Soviets were the same way. Especially being a tank commander, he would have been issued a PPS-43 along with the standard Nagant revolver sidearm every tanker was issued, or possibly the new automatic Tokarev, but most crews were hesitant to adopt that new pistol.
@@Twerkulies
EVERY BRAND IN THE U.S IN THE WW2 DON'T WAS TRAINED LIKE INFANTRY
SORRY, IN ANY ARMY OF THE SGM THE TANK SOLDIERS WAS TRAINED LIKE INFANTRY
This is the equivalent of Zeus teaching Neptune how to throw lighting bolts.
The smirk stoner makes after hitting the pigeons is priceless
This is so cool, absolutely amazing to see Stoner sharing this foreign sport with Kalashnikov
It is an Olympic sport since 1900 according to Wiki.
@@User_28970 yes what I meant was it’s a foreign sport to Mr.Kalashnikov at the time as in he had never tried it.
@@slaymonkey117 Oh, I see what you mean. Looks like Mr. Kalashnikov neither was familiar with this sport, neither was a hunter.
@@User_28970 Someone as accomplished as Kalashnikov still couldn't even afford a plane ticket in Communist Russia. The reality is most people from his generation simply didn't have the money to enjoy things like shooting skeet. It really doesn't matter how long the sport has existed.
It's a little sad (but also a testament to the different countries) to see at 28:50 the demonstration to MK of a clay pigeon. He seems to understand when the man breaks it. MK lived in the oppression of Communism and never experienced the fun of shooting skeet I guess.
I remember reading from an MK interview during one of his visits to America, of his thoughts on the differences between our countries and he said something like, “Stoner has his own aircraft. I can't even afford my own plane ticket."
that is truly sad, the man who built your army's service riffle, cant even afford a plain ticket, just shows the difference between our countries.
Communism sucked and the Russians had to prove it...
different system different values, true Mk didn't make any money with his rifle, but everyone and there kids knows the name Kalashnikov @@coolicetea7923
@@coolicetea7923я думаю это было уже после распада Советского Союза, в Советском Союзе билеты были очень дешёвыми.
@@coolicetea7923my man most people can’t afford to travel in the United States now 😂
Russians and Americans are quite similar in many ways.
All humans are quite similar in many ways, it just takes a bit of time and patience to realize it.
And different in many other ways, in Russia people don't hang Russian flag on their porch, they don't have senses of "community" and "neighborhood".
Rural folk of 2 nations are usually more similar than rural and city folk of the same nation.
@@Crabm38 So not true. Go to a oriental country and its like being on another planet. Also another odd place is Muslim centric countries humans do not act like Russians and Americans. Today in Russia those people are a lot like Americans in all ways. The modern Russia is more like 1990s America. Hell Russia is more American right now than America. Minus the ability to shoot guns all day in your own yard. They still have not given the people gun rights but its coming for that country. The day Russia gives the people the right to bear and keep arms without all the red tape Russia requires I will immigrate there like Steven Seagal. They need a better department of natural resources as well. They do not manage the game they have to hunt in that country well like America and its neighbors do.
Thats one of the the reasons they dont want them as a military alliance jews wouldn’t like that
I never knew these videos existed. This is great. So much history between these guys.like yin and yang everything in balance.
Is there more parts, or only 4 ?
Thank you for uploading from Russia.
There are only four parts.
@@bakelitenwaffles78 Okay nevermind, thanks again.)
This is truly remarkable to watch. The 2 modern giants and geniuses of modern firearm technology, together. Shooting shit. Just incredible
These two legends could have been bestfriends
Why is stoners voice so calming
Just that old grandpa voice, and a very calm man.
He’s a grandpa
They should have used the Stoner 12 gauge with the aluminum receiver he designed . It was a horrible shotgun and I would have loved to see the designer shoot it.
Oh God, that thing is awful.
You guys talking about the AR-17? what made it so bad? I don't know jack squat about them so I'm curious...
I’m convinced Stoner made it as a shitpost to bully short shooters (like Kalashnikov)
I absolutely LOVE this! As any Military/Vet would... the two GOATs of modern military arms, making peace and kickin' it. 🥲
why does Stoner sound like… hickok45 here…
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahaha imma not watch this shit as it used to be anymore xd 🤣 😂
Daddy Kalashy really seemed to enjoy skeet shooting.
I think he just likes shooting stuff even if he is not hitting anything
From my understanding up to this point in time skeet shooting wasn't a thing in Russia, except perhaps for some of the wealthiest people, which Kalashnikov was not (even though he should have been). It was a novel experience for him, and as anyone who has shot clays can attest, it's fun as hell so it's no surprise that he enjoyed himself.
This meeting is what broke the iron curtain
It would have happened a lot sooner had Russians had the chance to know more about the world. Tragic to think of an entire population of people enslaved and oppressed by an evil regime.
Awsome footage, glad its preserved!
Thank you for posting these videos!
Thanks bro for uploading these series
This is wholesome
much much greatfull for this
Is Mikhail Kalashnikov wearing an NRA hat there? That sure is something.
Would have been super cool if they brought out a Stoner 63; and had Gene go through its different configurations; Then have Mr Kalashnikov go through one of his WW2 7.62x25mm SMG prototypes; almost forgot; and the AR 180 stamped steel that Mr Kalashnikov would immediately relate to.
The original design for the AK-47 has a milled receiver. The stamped receiver was a concession made to reduce production costs. Kalashnikov mentions this in his explanation of the AKM in part 2. The way he said it sounded like he thought it was an even worse idea than Stoner thought the A2 "upgrades" were for the M16. The AR-180, on the other hand, was designed as a stamped gun from the beginning with the specific intention of being inexpensive.
How do these videos not have 100 percent likes?
Класс
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I can’t believe how bad this translator is. I speak both languages fluently and this translator is consistently adding or taking away whole ideas in the translation. It’s very strange.
Это живой перевод, очень сложно переводить между двумя людьми.
Russians really do have a great sense of humor
No wonder no one knows of this video because they were so unprepared and Incompetent that the people that set this all up didn't want you to the video
Brandon Herrera carries the torch of both these dudes
He doesn’t
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The AK is still a better gun.
Read it as street shooting
I would of liked to see the American food he ate and what he wanted to try
I wonder why Kalashnikov doesn’t like browning
Lol Mikhail first time with hunting shotgun. But it's physically heavy.
о, дід вже мекнув чарочку
Переводчик 0 . Калашников умница
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Там клоунада полная в музее МихТимКала )))
Автомат Кал ашникова был создан после войны в Германии по заданию Министерства Вооружения СССР. Осенью 1945 года главный автоматчик СССР, генерал Федоров, сам заказывал у инженеров Шмайссера АК-47 и сам же был в комиссии по постановке АК на вооружение. В Ижевск немцы привезли уже готовый образец нового автомата в октябре 1946 года.
От Миши только враньё, воровские мемуары и сенокосилка )))
Легенда : Великую Отечественную войну Калашников начал в августе 1941 года в звании старшего сержанта, в должности командир танка ! В последнем бою командовал взводом и подбил 4 немецких танка )))
- Наглая ложь.
Посмотрим наградной лист конца 1945 года. Звание-Не имеет. Должность- Инвалид войны.
В строке документа “Каким военкоматом призван” - тоже пустота )))
Правильно, ну зачем каким-то гражданским колхозникам, которые всю войну от фронта в Казахстане скрывались, рисовать выдуманные звания, должности и военкоматы )))
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Легенда : Калашиников закончил 7 - 8 - 9 и даже 10 классов ! -- Наглая ложь , он закончил 4 класса )))
Новая комендатурская школа в Воронихе, где были ссыльные учителя, еще не была включена в бюджет, поэтому 5-й класс был платным, стоил 25 руб в год, а у семьи Кал ашникова денег небыло. Так Мишка дураком с 4-мя классами на всю жизнь и остался!
Мишкино вранье про образование развенчал его одноклассник, настоящий ветеран Великой Отечественной войны, Иван Васильевич Мельников (село Новая Бурка Бакчарского района Томской области): awoxx-2207.livejournal.com/tag/%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2
Самозарядный Карабин -44. под советский патрон 7,62 образца 1943 года. По воровским мемуарам, этот карабин ( с шмайссеровской фирменной мушкой) “создал” Мишка-колхозник, который якобы дал Мишке вдохновение, для создания АК )))
Опять брехня, Миша в оружейном конкурсе 1944 года вообще не участвовал.)))
Карабин -44 Мишка спиздил у немецкого инженера-оружейника Карла Барницке,
Смотри ( Пункт А) topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2014-08/thumbs/1408818912_barnicke.jpg
Это пулемет Калашникова под советский патрон 7,62 образца 1943 года, который колхозник Миша спиздил у создателя знаменитого пулемета MG -42, доктора тех/наук Вернера Грунера
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Это АК-46, ( 3 варианта) под советский патрон 7,62 образца 1943 года, который Миша спиздил у создателя пулемета MG -42, автомата Хорна , у немецкого оружейника Курта Хорна, смотри ( пункт А)
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Ну а это сам АК-47, который Миша спиздил у немцев. Немцы дорабатывали и поставили АК-47 на конвейер, по СПЕЦЗАДАНИЮ Технического Управления, Министерства Вооружения СССР. СПЕЦЗАДАНИЕ Министерства Вооружения СССР закончилось в январе 1949 года, ровно тогда, когда АК-47 запустили в серию.
После января 1949 года, немцы работали уже на сам ИжМаш. Следилли за конвейером, конструировали для Мишки-колхозника легенду, Карабин-44, АК-46, Пулемет кал ашникова и конструировали всякие гаражданские изделия.
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Все модификации АК-47 немцы провели для Мишки -колхозника в конструкторском бюро завода „WiеGer“.
Сам „WieGer“ выпускал по 100 тыс автоматов в год, под марками МРi-К, МРi-КМ, МРi- К74, а после развала ГДР , StG-940.
Воровская легенда- “Калашников создал АК-47 в Коврове” тоже не проходит.
Получается, что в Ижевске, в бригаде Шмайссера работали инженеры-оружейники и даже Доктор тех/наук, но они якобы 5 лет сковородки штамповали.
А в Коврове, АК-47 “ваяли”; Мишка -колхозник с 4 классами образования и техник Зайцев, который закончил техникум по специальности "Ремонт и эксплуатация дорожных машин" !
Ну просто ох_ительные оружейники )))
В 2016 году“ Концерн Калашников” отобрал через суд все права на АК-47 у семьи Калашникова.
Архивы КГБ о создании АК-47уже 70 лет закрыты и будут закрыты еще 100 лет.
Иначе придется все Мишкины памятники и музеи сносить)))
Единственное изобретение Миши “Сенокосилки Калашникова”, можно посмотреть тут th-cam.com/video/RarFrknDpSI/w-d-xo.html
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