Can Hector Beat EVERY Class In Fire Emblem?
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.พ. 2024
- I used FE Builder to make a gauntlet map to test gba fire emblem characters against every other class in the game. This installment features Hector as our champion, and we can compare his performance against Roy and Lilina, and all the future units we will test in the gauntlet.
- เกม
Do you think any character will be able to beat the child? Who's got the best chance? 😅
Depends if Manakete are allowed to compete, really
I'd like to see Rutger go at it, since he's quite the boss killer in Binding Blade
@@dezel536 Speaking of. Miredy/Zeiss should have a shot too.
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 Lvl 20 Myrrh would destroy this challenge lol
@@briancaro196 A child for a child, equivalent exchange
C'mon, Give Ephraim his shot. He'll definitely beat the gauntlet, for he doesn't pick fights he can't win.
Maybe that's the reason he isn;t in here. He doesný pick fight he can't win.
I second this, bring in the crown prince of Renais, let him sweep the whole gauntlet.
If he can attack a whole castle with 4 guys, he'd happily take in the gauntlet solo :P
@@BadAtFireEmblem If im not mistaken he also 2 man the grado capital ( assume you go erika route)
I wonder if god Seth would sweep the gauntlet it be an interesting take
The little girl deserves a name.
My vote is Deathica.
First come first served, her name is now Deathica 🤣
@@BadAtFireEmblem I would argue for Morticia, since that is an actual name, but alas.....
my favorite part about hector is his character development, it doesn't get talked about enough honestly.
What's your favourite part of his development?
@@BadAtFireEmblem I have to say either his realization that he could've been looking in a mirror during the Linus 2 fight or his handling of his brother's death.
Agreed that’s why I love hector mode so much
Attaboy, Hector!
Ephraim is honestly the only other lord I think has a shot of clearing this. Though I'm curious to see how Lyn does as well.
This series is a lot of fun, as is everything you've been putting out! Great work!
Yeah Lyn and Hector are unbeatable as a power couple.
I think Eirika would actually do better than Lyn normally but I think the Mani Katti is better than the rapier so that run may be better.
Cheers for the support 😊 Lyn will get her chance not too far in the future, but I'm not sure she'll do great 😅
@@BadAtFireEmblem Believe!
@@BadAtFireEmblem for me big problem with the challenge is iron weapons lol they aren't at their best if both allies and enemies had say silver it'd be more true to endgame o.o
I just remembered that Guinivere is playable through fe6's trial maps so I think it would be pretty cool to see her give the gauntlet a try.
Seeing how Guinivere is a promoted sage, she would breeze through the lot. If one Regresses her however to a mage, she might look rather similar to Lilina since she is very frail physically with only higher speed to show for it. If ever a Binding Blade Remake comes out, I would love If they make Guinivere playable with her own lord class.
Very surprised to see Hector not only kill the mage with 5 res but also onerounding it instead of exploding himself
Even the classes he's supposed to struggle with, he still dominates
I think you should put a third and fourth column for the characters that clear it for how low they get the child unit. That would be a good way to rank the ones on that tier.
I probably won't add more columns but any units with the same score will be ordered using that system, definitely
Aside from Hector, Ephraim is the other lord I thought would stand a chance here, and I'd really love to see him give it a shot next.
Ayyy I'm in the video let's goooo
Edit: I think comparing Raven and Cormag back to back would be an interesting comparison with their equal growth rates on two of the stronger physical classes.
Epharim is the perfect next unit to run. First lance and sacred stones unit to run
Glad you did the wolf beil run, the weapons typically represent the characters.
ROSS! (Pre-promoted to either fighter or pirate though. I want to see my boy put in work)
:marth with his full powered falchion down the line:
"as a vulnerary, you are, replaceable. Farewell" :full heals with falchion.:
4:53 Hector ended the cavalier with 22 HP, the next one was the knight and although it deals 0 damage, Hector ends that combat with 17 HP. What damages him in between?
I misclicked at one point so to be fair to hector I went back to a save state a few enemies back, so he took an extra hit at some point
THE HECOTR PIC AT THE END??
HELLOO SAILOR
00:18 Hey that's me!
Looks like I very much underestimated Hector, still I knew that if someone could it was him, the mages did give him a lot of trouble as I expected also if he didn't have triangle advantage against the Wyvern Knight he surely would've died there but came thru with the double dodge, was pretty fun to watch.
My boi is an absolute beast 😂
I’d love to see Gerik or Ross! I don’t think either of them would clear it but it’s be fun to see how far they can get:
Ross is MY BOY
i forgot that this was about gba fire emblem, and thought to myself, that masternight lachesis would have sureley wiped the floor with everyone on this map
I'd like to see Miledy. I think she'd get very far
Roy's our boy!(for getting murdered halfway through the challenge)
I wanna see how much Lyn will fare, she'll either clear it or die to the first lance that hits her.
My money is on the second option 😂
Lyn has an average str of 11.6 at level 20 so she can't damage some of the tankier enemies with an Iron Sword.
The Mani Katti would definitely change things.
@@shadow_blaze2317 she's so unbelievably squishy, I don't think it even matters if she can deal damage, she still won't get very far before she's dead
Ok, we need to see lyn and eliwood get outclassed by hector once and for all
What about Roy with the binding blade? It WOULD let him counter two range so mages would get less chances to damage him as well
By that logic, Hector vs the Child, no healing , with Armads.
@@josephtessier9209 hell yeah, brother
@@josephtessier9209 wouldnt his speed be terrible tho? unpremoted he probably wouldnt have the con to carry armads, and take even more damage from mages.
Hector would be slowed down by 5, yeah. As for Roy, the binding blade actually only slows him down by 2
Still voting for Miledy to test her might 💪 BTW, can I suggest dropping the Vulneraries altogether and use a single stack of Elixirs? As all the tested characters would be LV 20 then most of them will have at least 25 Max HP, so it would make the healing process both less tedious and more strategic considering the coming round of combats in the next room. And finally, at the end of the day this is still RNG dependant, so reporting the average reached stage over 3 or 5 full rounds would be a little more objective than the current approach 😅. Best regards 😀
This is my first time watching so idk if you know this already but to fix the bugged ranged animations go to:
Advanced Editor -> Magic animations
And there you can assign any animation you want to the weapon, which by default is assigned to "None" (you might need to do a data expansion if it's not on the table)
You can also go directly to your weapon and click "edit magic animations" which will redirect you to the same menu
Hope this helps!
Febuilder advice is always appreciated because there's some weird stuff and I don't understand a lot of it.
But in this case I don't know what happened because the first video I did on Roy had the animations work normally 🤷♂️
@@BadAtFireEmblem Well, then that's weird. Did you change the weapon ID or something?
If not, I once had a similar problem with Gorgons, their animations suddenly stopped working just like in the video and the only way I managed to fix it was by using the function Febuilder has to compare the rom with a backup, and start replacing things until it got fixed. I never even knew why that specific byte was a problem lol
So if the problem persists, try using that. But in my experience the worst thing this bug can do is avoid triggering death quotes, so it doesn't matter much for the battles themselves
@@elnchou I'm not sure tbh. Sometimes febuilder is weird, sometimes it's my faults, sometimes I have no idea which one it is :P
@@BadAtFireEmblem Yeah, that's how it is sometimes, I'm not an expert either, just talking about what I've seen in some months of messing around with the thing haha
as long as it works we'll just have to accept it (and it may be like fire emblem itself in that sense...)
But nice video, I also want to see how Ephraim does eventually hehe
Time to see how well Daddy Eliwood now, so both Parents and Child are ranked!
I mean that's just Hector things, dude is a sassy tank
Not sure how FE builder works, but would it be possible to set enemies to be stationary even when player is in range? Sort of like how bosses in games usually do? That would make it so the player can always chose if they want to first strike or enemy phase.
Bow units are free then
@@xa447 Hmm... True. Same goes with melee units if you have a ranged weapon. Perhaps then equip the characters with a 2-ranged weapon too, such as javelin and handaxes, with the caveat that you have to use the weapon that an enemy can counter-strike.
I dont know how stacked in favor of the gauntlet runners we want to make it but i do have a few suggestions.
1) in cases where the runner can defeat the enemy in three hits (and doubles), it is more optimal to let the enemy strike first, because then if you hit all three the enemy only got one chance to hit you.
2) if theres an issue about whether or not you should give the runner the chance to first strike then is there a way to set the enemy movements to 1? That was they can chase ranged attackers but you'll always be able to decide if you want first or second hit
Anyways i want to suggest Gonzales as the next runnee. Hes the only playable bandit we get so it would be nice to have him on the board early
Continuing to suggesr Franz. Although curious who out if the GBA cast could defeat *the child* . Maybe Athos?
You could have saved a ton of HP by waiting and letting the axe users attack first, for a double up on the counterattacks and then the third hit on Player turn killing them (without missing like he did on the Fighter.)
I nominate sain, as every time I’ve used him he’s capped strength
And here I thought he'd be fighting special classes like the Magic Seal, Dark Druid and Fire Dragon toward the end.
It's just standard classes, that'd have to a separate special video 😅
pretty sure no standard class can beat the fire dragon 1v1
iirc he has like 120 health and hits for consistent 40 damage that can not miss and ignores defence, he kills every playable character in two hits.
Will there be a video for promoted units eventually? Would love to see Binding Blade Roy, or units like promoted Rutger/Dieck with Durandal/Armads, etc.
That said, Rutger or Dieck next! Ooh, Gonzalez!
I definitely want to do a few of the vanilla promoted units, but I don't know how best to implement them. Levelling them down the promoted level 1? Unpromoting them to level 20 base? Who knows. But probably not legendary weapons, I'll save them for a different series at some point
i feel like a promoted version of this gauntlet with both the character and the enemys promoted lv 20 after the pref weapon run would be a great addition to this series
I will include promoted units, I'm just not sure what the best way to do it is yet
@@BadAtFireEmblem fair take your time
OH MY GOSH THAT'S ME!?!?
new suggestion Erika and or Ephraim.
Lilina’s prf should be like the aircalibur that way we can see how she would do.
Upvoting all Ross comments.
ROSS IS MY BOY
Id Love to see Nino be given a shot! Prove that she is viable and reliable!
Funny that the Uber Spear weighs down the demon villager girl enough to only have 15 AS which isn’t enough to double Hector’s 12 Spd.
Nice. I don't think anyone was surprised by this :-D
My FE8 main man Joshua I expect will be an interesting one to do someday.
Instead of a D tier item...Would it make sense for the item drop to be up to your discretion? Basically, you deciding whether a weapon or healing will help the unit get further, and giving that to the unit before the Myrmidon.
I would absolutely love to see Ross!
Ultimately the strongest character in Fire Emblem, is the embodiment of Child Soldiers.
i would love to see Erk or Nino give this a shot, personally.
I'd personally like to see Nino, Marisa with Shamshir, and Sue go at this with the caveat of getting to attack first like in this video.
Now we gotta do all the FE7 lords: Do Lyn next.
Eliwood can be done when you want to pivot back to FE6, though you've already done Roy. Idk if Lyn has a child
For the enemies that reach you on the turn the door is opened, you could place some walls to slow them down, the map would look a bit messy and ugly but would make it way more fair
I'm going to nominate Lowen, because he's one of the most interesting unit in the game. Is he bulky enough to win, or will his lack of offense hurts his progression?
I am curious to see how you handle pre promotes, like if you will average their levels down and how you go about that. That and since everyone is unpromoted its a shame characters like l'arachel can't be done. I do love this series though, Ive been a sucker for the GBA era of Fe since I played it years ago. My goofy request is still Gonzales or Dozla. Gotta love goofy axe units. I hope your channel keeps growing and finds success!
Thanks a lot, appreciate it :) I haven't decided exactly how to do prepromotes yet, I'll work it out at some point 😅
one thing to note is that Roy's rapier in the Binding Blade actually isn't effective against nomads, though I'm not sure whether that would change the rankings much lol
It also has lower might I think, but hey ho 🤷♂️
What about Canas with his prf Luna? (It’s essentially his PRF, the only other dark magic user in FE7 is Athos)
By that logic every single dark tome is also his prf
I really want to see Marcus!
Oswin or Gilliam would be cool to see
Thanks, good video
Could you do Deke or Rutger next? I feel like they would do really well
Oh this is a fun concept. Do Canas next
My favorite lord finally!
If you did get to do Kent & Sain, what weapons would you give them? Swords, Lances, Both, or give one a Sword & the other a Lance?
I would say the one they have higher rank in
They can have one of each iron. The cav in the gauntlet has one of each so I'd give player units the same
@@BadAtFireEmblem how would that work with the healing situation since you have a single-weapon unit fill their inventory as is
@@velvetbutterfly i can use the debug screen to just add another vulnerary when the space opens up, or put a droppable one on an enemy
@@BadAtFireEmblem is it possible to change the number of uses for the vulnerary? you could make all future vulnerarys have 9 uses for easier space.
I wanna see either geese or dart, I wanna see the pirates
My vote is Raven. He helped carry my most recent run of FE7 and am curious how well he would do.
If not Raven, then I'd have to vote Lucius since I've never had a bad Lucius in all my FE7 runs.
The uber spear is to stat caps what Tiamat is to bounded accuracy.
Ephraim! Because I like his animations
I'd like to see Lyn try this out. She gets walled by the Armor Knight in her Iron run, but I'm curious what the Mani Katti would do for her
Next with Myrrh would be nice
As a recommendation, have the wyvern at the end drop an elixir. That way theres an even match up. I think anyone who makes it there is going to be low on health.
only problem with that is it might lead to the wyvern using it if they are low on HP, it would be better to make it drop a chest key and pick up an elixer instead.
@@MrMariosonicman ooh, good point!
Rutger with and without hard mode bonuses. He can best the child
0:17 Hey look I appear there!, amazing video, Hector just destroyed everyone lol
What about one with Ephraim or Dorcas?
Funny thing I wanna bring up - though the fe7 rapier has a higher base Mt than the fe6 rapier roy normally has (7 to 5), it actually does less damage to effective targets due to fe7 only using double effectiveness vs fe6 having triple effectiveness. It may be better against most normal enemies, but against cavs and armors, the weaker rapier is more effective.
That is interesting. I ran this in fe8 though, and I think fe8 has triple effectiveness
@@BadAtFireEmblem ah, I had assumed it was fe7 since nomads were there
@@isuckatgaming1873 I ported them into fe8 specially :)
I'm curious how well Lyn would do. She's not known for being very good, but maybe she can surprise us with some lucky dodges or crits.
I know you're looking at base classes, but I would love to see how far base Seth would get and maybe compare it to Marcus.
Lyn is very squishy so it'd be interesting to see how far she gets.
I'll definitely do promoted units at some point but I haven't worked out how to implement it yet :)
I’d be curious if Lilina’s “perf weapon” would be forblaze. I’m pretty sure mage Lilina can’t use it, but still might be cool to see how she does with it. It may be nice to have the higher Mt weapon but also could be worse if it weighs her down too much
Also...For characters without a Prf...how about making their "Prf" run the best weapon their class can equip?
Ngl, kinda forgot how decent Hector's speed was lol. Lad was definitely made for this kind of challenge.
He's surprisingly zoomy. Got that Sonic energy
@@BadAtFireEmblemcomes free with the blue hair
Show us how truly Rutger does in this set up.
Legault would be an interesting one. Usually has close to max skill and speed and around 12 atk.
I think Joshua's got this, even the uber spear civilian. He'll crit every single one
How about Promoted to General, level 20 Oswin? My favorite heavy character next to Hector.
Heather, that lad absolutely carried in my run. I wanna see if he has a chance in this.
Do you mean Heath? Or have I missed a recruitable character for 15 years? 🤣
@@BadAtFireEmblem Aye I mean Heath, I was let's say sleep deprived at the time I was making this comment. WHOOPS.
@@toxictalon74 uh oh, sleep deprivation, very dangerous
If you double an enemy and kill the in three hits, it’s better to enemy phase them and then player phase them instead of vice versa. It can stop you from facing one more attack
Yeah I was paying more attention to commentating than how I was playing lol
Any chance you can mod units from non GBA games into the gauntlet?
If so, I would like to nominate Ike ^^
They said that will happen eventually but not early on
Yeah like velvet says, it'll be further down the line but 100%
I'd like to see Lyn do this. I'm predicting she'd do terribly, but I'd still like to see it.
While it’d be fun to keep going with lords, I’m curious about how a unit with multiple available weapons would run the gauntlet.
For that reason, I nominate Sain!
How are you going to do pre-promotes? Sorry if you’ve already answered this somewhere.
I don't know yet 😅 I need to figure it out lol
BRING IN MY BOY EPHRAIM! If anyone can take the child it's him.
i'd like to see some of the so-termed 'OP' units' runs to see if they can actually kill the child, maybe rutger or milady
Bro forgot to set Javelin ranged Animations for the Uber Spear
Bro all the animations went to shit in this video 🤣
I'll keep asking for Florina, I'm sure you'll get around to her someday!
Would it possible to use a character from another game and just match the class and stats?
Further down the line I'll start doing that, but depending on which character it is it'll be easier or harder
I think it might be better to let the units be attacked first. If the unit kills in 2 attacks its the same as if they attack first, and if they kill in 3 hits, they take 1 less hit. It should, in theory, allow them to go even further. Going first only helps if they ohko.
I vote Ephraim or Ross! Maybe make Ross level 10 in his first promoted class, or make him level 20 as Super Trainee
ROSS IS MY BOY
I think Seth should be in this, but the question is what level? Maybe 10 promoted? Or you could "estimate" his prowess by removing his promotion gains and leveling him 19 times in cavalier?
A lot of people have requested him but I'm still unsure how to do prepromotes. I want to try unpromote them so they're on par with the other units for comparison, but it's hard to know what the best way of doing it is
It's all kinda made up in the end, but an interesting approach might be level 5 paladin with his silver lance and steel sword
Let's see Seth!
Hah eat that Rick52's gamefaqs guide from 2004 that rates Lilina a 10/10 and Hector a 9/10 (And Wendy a 9/10 L O L)
The sacred texts!
Hector is definitely a beast
Id be interested to see how Milady does!
I would like to see Gonzalez
I want to see Knight Amelia give it a shot.
I’d like to see either Harken or Gerik