It's been a bit since the Black Bay 58 was released, and it is an absolute gem of a watch. But in 2021, would I still recommend this diver for your hard earned money?
@@rolandjuhasz1645 The t fit would definitely improve the wear but uncle seiko make a half link which solves the problem. A 4th mico adjustment should have been implemented by tudor in the first place.
For me I feel that the BB58 will always on the top of the Blackbay lineups. The color and the overall aesthetic is timeless. I fall in love with it when I got it, and I still in love with it till today.
May I ask how did get oem bracelet and the price you paid. I have leather version and was contemplating whether to get oem bracelet or strapcode one. Thanks
I have the BB58 for 2 years. I wouldn’t recommend it as your first watch because you probably won’t want another watch after this. It gets the most wrist time of all my watches and I never stop being amazed at it’s beauty and functionality. The snowflake hour and second hand make for the best readability than any watch I own. When the sun hits it just right and the gold tones pop it’s simply breathtaking and I forget to actually read the time.
Stumbled across your BB58 video and then binge watched your others. Great channel, really well considered content and analysis. Subscribed and look forward to future vids.
Great review my friend, I love this watch. You pointed out the so many geometric figures in the dial, darn I never though about it, now every timeI am looking at the BB 58 all I see are the many geometric figures is so funny. Still I love this watch and it is on my bucket list along with the GMT. Best regards from San Juan, Puerto Rico, stay safe.
Loved the video and thanks for sharing your thoughts on the BB58. The macro shots of the watch look superb. Just wanted to point that in my opinion, the intro and the outro are a little incoherent with the overall theme of the video. I look forward to seeing more of your content!
Above my budget but wow, what a great looking watch. Also, its nice that you incorporate the outdoors in portions of your video. I am a fan of watches as I am of scenic views and the outdoors 👍
@@WatchCrunchOfficial Good reason :). I think using nature shots gives you a different dynamic over other watch reviewers that shoot videos indoors, sitting down in a room. Keep up the good work! Enjoy and relax
I was worried you'd make me hate the 58 after that warning. I'm glad to say that didn't happen. Kudos on the great editing and shot choices; I feel like it's not too often you see videos where a watch is taken outside to experience the elements.
I bought the BB58 with the leather strap. I love it, but I totally agree with your comment about the overloaded dial. Not a big deal however for such a wonderful time piece. Very nice video!
Closer up, my favourite thing is the rich, round, 'ploppy' gold dust text and chapter ring application. The way it can shadow and catch the light, so round bodied. So much depth. It really adds a lot of character imo, versus, say a sub with simple, flat print white text that is shrewd and cold.
I do hope you are foreshadowing, that bronze in 39mm would be amazing and you're the man to make it happen Max. I love the BB58 but it is a small Black Bay and the Black Bay line is seen as Stepping Stone watch much like the Oris Divers 65 and many other really lovely sub £3K dive watches. Tudor need a destination luxury dive watch, I think they should have made the whole range of the Black Bay available as 39mm alternatives to keep us all happy then made something amazing , imagine a 38mm precious metal 9401 Submariner, something well over $10K, beautifully vintage and a real statement. 3 beers in Max and getting carried away 😂
Haha, thanks Morgan for your faith in me... Hope it lasts after the beers wear off 😁. I fear Tudor does have a destination watch, it's called a Rolex 😅. Good to hear from you as always Morgan
Another great video--the shots are fantastic. Like this watch, except for the gilt dial. I really like the Navy Blue version, although I haven't seen it in the steel yet. The blue has a cleaner look. The No Date and no crown guards really give it a vintage look that I like. Alas, these are too hard to get right now. In addition, I am not willing to pay the Flipper Tax. I can wait until I see one at my local AD. Finally, it's no tragedy if I never get one.
Cool review. Did you have any issues with sizing the bracelet? I noticed you use 4 and 6 links on either side of the clasp which is my configuration as well. But, my issue is with the length of the clasp. It's slightly too big and pushes out the bracelet a bit which doesn't allow it to wrap around the wrist smoothly. Do you have this issue?
Yeah but then I realized that the clasp sits differently when you turn your wrist to look at it vs when it's in its normal position. Kind of like Schrodinger's cat 🤓
Hey there love your videos I have a question. I want to get a statement piece under $4000 brand new (got a lot of middle brand watches and such and a lot of divers already) I would like to get one piece that says luxury and is my go-to, for let say, a weekend nite out on the las vegas strip w friends dressed up etc. Something that pops and looks superlative and special I would like to buy. I've been thinking about the tudor style in black dial, or something like a carrera? But I recently have been watching a lot of videos on tudor black bay. Especially the 58 in blue on bracelet. It looks really nice and I think would be perfect for my first lux piece but ..I think it won't be a statement piece or a visually stunning piece? Haven't seen it in person. I've read a lot where they say the black bay is just very understated almost muted and the vintage aspect of it just doesn't make it look like a lot of luster in appearance. Also , i have too many divers. But i dont just want to get a dress watch just to fill the evening watch statement watch when my gut says bb 58? I don't know. I haven't seen one in any store near me. What is your suggestion about the 58? ( in terms of style and look as mentioned above in my concern, not sizing as I know the specs are fine).
Really loving all the content on your TH-cam channel, ever since I watched your Speedmaster 38mm video! Every review is thorough and love the video work. Any chance you'll be adding some Grand Seiko content to the channel?
Thanks Kenneth for your feedback! Yes, I'm curious about GS, but haven't really seen a piece that speaks to me. I want to try a spring drive, but they are a bit big
@@WatchCrunchOfficial currently own the SBGA283, one of their 39mm Spring Drive variants. I feel as though we have similar wrist sizes, and it's one of their models that fits a wide variety of wrists. If you ever want to possibly review it, let me know and we could maybe work something out!
I own the BB/Black with NATO strap. My favorite tool watch. Head turner as well. People can tell it's not your average watch. Great review by Haute Ones.
@@clownfish7776 I went with the BB58 Blue, just love the understated looks of it. The blue is almost a slate color and in certain lighting it almost looks black or a dark navy.
@@daverichards1337 Both the blue and the black look amazing. It's definitely a hard decision to choose one over the other. Congratulations on your blue BB, great choice.
Good visuals on this video. One note about the geometric shapes. This is part of the history of this watch as a tool for the Canadian Navy. One of their requests was to further differentiate shapes from the previous iterations supplied for the Marine Nationale. So for me, I like the story for why we have the shapes on the dial. A full snowflake version would be great as well but overall great watch however you look at it.
@@WatchCrunchOfficial I think you miss the point of this watch…while certain watch geeks will search out the watch you own,many others just want a good looking watch without obsessing over minute details. Not to say one is right over the other,just stating an opinion. Not everyone can have an original snowflake,and congrats on yours,but not all of us need that. I myself just liked the vibe of the BB58 when I first saw a pic of it and eventually bought one. I have a datejust I bought new in ‘83 and love it…the BB58 is just a change of pace for me. To nitpick a watch to death over perceived negatives is disingenuous to me. It’s what YOU want or don’t want…not a shortcoming of the watch. Methinks you all make a mountain out of a molehill.
I'm wearing a BB58 (black) as I watch this. I wear it by choice over my Rolex's. It has the perfect look and size for me. I don't at all understand your complaint about the dial. It's a pretty standard diver configuration.
Good question. It's a beautiful watch. But to my eyes, the Rolex sub has round shapes (mercedes, lollipop, hour indices). The Tudor pelagos for example has square shapes instead. The BB58 mixes the two and that bothers my esthetic sense.
Completely different designs, probably speaks to very different crowds. I am very impressed with how tight the endlinks fit in modern Rolex/tudors. Makes changing straps a pain 😂
I’ve had a few watches that I suppose would be in the luxury category… Have not yet owned a Tudor. I have been very interested in the Pelagos (42mm Titanium)...One it has a top grade ETA movement that is less expensive, as compared to the in-house movements, to service. It’s dinner the models with the in-house movements… Although 42 mm as a lug to lug of only 48...I guess I need to try on both...I have a 7 1/2 inch wrist so I am thinking proportionally 42mm might be the way to go...thanks for the great review....as always!
John, I love the pelagos from a design perspective. Just like the old snowflakes, the square markers go so well with the hands. If you can pull off the size, go for it 👍
Got the BB58 black year and a half ago. Also have a Rolex Sub which is one of my grails. My BB58 gets the most wrist time. Proportions are perfect and just love it. It's a lot of watch for your money. If and when a BB58 comes with a gmt function, I'm jumping on it....
I agree the the dial lacks a little bit of the macro detail. However, I think the case and bezel make up for that, at least for me. The form and subtle curves of the case and the bezels fine refined knurling are what allows such a bold and somewhat unrefined dial to shine. The watch as a whole design is really quite brilliant. I could do without the snowflake hands though.
Yeah, if they just got down to 3 shapes (e.g. pelagos + BB bronze), then I think my eyes would appreciate it much more, but that's very subjective. Agree the other details are dead on!
Bought my second BB58 (Blue) about four months ago and still have the original Black 58. I initially thought the black was more special (and it probably is) but it’s the Blue that gets most wrist time.
I hadn't actually seen the Black Bay Bronze dial with the Arabic numerals. That is very cool, and I would love to see that variant on a BB58 model. I don't really have an issue with the shapes, as it is true to the vintage design. I also wonder if Tudor has any plans to slim down the movement in the Black Bay heritage in the 41mm sizing. The thickness of that line is the only thing that makes me hesitate, because I do have a 7.25" wrist that can support that diameter, and not have it look large.
Hey Max!!!Well,I've always been in love with Tudor B.B.but,I think a cheaper good alternative would be the Eberhard Scafograf mcmlix...for me of course.I'm planning to buy it this years. What do you think?Ciao from Italia and keep it up!!!
I could get this watch with papers and everything almost brand new with no scratches for $2700 are the prices going down in the future because i'm not planning on keeping it forever
"A cacophony of geometric shapes." Well said! The gilt lettering on the bezel for the BB58 is something I'm still not sure I like. Anyway great content!
I very recently bought the Black Bay 58 Navy Blue on the steel bracelet to compliment a range of predominantly black-dialled watches in my collection that include the classic Rolex Submariner Date 16610 that I've owned for 19 yrs. The Tudor is a super, very well-made luxury timepiece and I appreciate its rather understated blue dial and bezel compared to the 'bling-blue' ceramic of my Omega Seamaster 300. Like-for-like think of the Blue 58 as a more modern take on its original black and gilt sibling. The blue really pops in daylight or in well-lit rooms and a pleasure to wear. Although not quite up there with the Rolex Sub in the absolute quality stakes - but why should it when barely 35% of the retail price - go to an AD and try one on. In-house COSC certified movement, 70 hrs power reserve, staggering lume.... you won't be disappointed.
@@WatchCrunchOfficial Thank you so much. That really helps! My strap collection is outstripping my watch collection. I keep buying straps that seem great in pics, but not so awesome in real life.
Is it difficult to get the batteries changed in these tudor watches . I’m not a fan of sending them off in post . Can you take them to a shop , I’m in London ?
Recently I was very surprised that seeing the BB58 live it makes sense to me. For some years now I thought there is an unbalance with the snow flake hands. So never really double checked this. But I was wrong, again. You know the consequence. A few weeks after my experience at the dealer I pulled the trigger. It was just last Saturday.
Just curious if anyone else has a little bit of rattle in the end links? It's not huge, but there is an audible rattle from where end links meet case in mine. I presume this is part of the normal tolerances of this watch.
Personally I think the dial layout of current BB models is genius...nothing clashes for my eyes. What I could the BB line and BB58 accuse of, is that these obviously aren't real dive or tool watches...many other watches are too, but that is something that is very prominent in the BB line. While I think Omegas Seamaster 300 is an rather ugly watch, its more of its own thing without trying to be a remake of something. On the other hand, there is no real alternative if it goes for a classic and classic sized dive style watch without any unnecessary fuss. Most other contenders are 41 or 42, which rule them out for me. Just got my BB58 and really like, while not loving it (yet)...was eyeballing a 5 digit sub, but these made a price jump withing the last 2 years, which I cant see myself spending for such a rather simple watch.
I have a new Sub yet the BB58 spends much more time on my wrist. The beauty of this watch is mesmerizing, and when the sun hits it just right, it’s a sight to behold. When I go to my watch box it’s the quickest grab.
I’ve had mine for 6 months now and not really had the time to wear it out because of lockdown. I can’t wait to wear it with my suit on and nice clothes! Then I feel I’ll truly get to love it
Great video and review! The BB58 is a great value prop. However there are some minor issues I can't stand such as the faux lume and fake rivets. Those are details who break the deal for me unfortunately...
Yeah Petter, it's a tough call with these vintage inspired watches, very fine line the designers have to walk and can never appease everyone. I sold mine
Thank you. I want to get the new Tissot PRX. I’m just confused on whether to go for the black dial or the other. I’m waiting for the automatic version of it though. It’s a good looking watch.
Aghh😣! I was SO close to purchasing this watch, but the fake "rivets" are something that would have forever bothered me. Went in a totally different direction and bought an Alpinist instead. I wish the Pelagos came in a smaller form factor.
@@WatchCrunchOfficial Yes, I went for the classic green Alpinist as well! Despite the new color variants and questionable "limited" editions, I think green is the way to go (for both the old SARB or the new Prospex) If it has a special place in your heart, you should totally do a video on it =)!!!
Was really into this watch last year but the hype and lack of inventory turned me off. Have a 2000 Explorer2, but find myself reaching for my Christopher Ward 38mm red bezel, black dial more often. Also have the green sarb 017 Alpinist, great watch. Still think bb58 is a real looker though. Nice vid H1, 👍
I own a LOT of high-end watches (Rolex, Omega, PP, ALS, Cartier, JLC, etc). Out of them all, my Tudor BB58 blue gets the most wrist time. To me, it just checks all the boxes.to put a finer point on it....if I were forced to sell all my watches except one....my BB58 would be the one I would keep.
I am still considering BB58 blue or black. I like the blue one in person but I am not sure if it lasts long as the black one is more versatile. Do you still love the blue one now?
I still can't get enough of my 58 after 2 years of ownership. It's a keeper for life!
Do you miss the T-fit?
@@rolandjuhasz1645
The t fit would definitely improve the wear but uncle seiko make a half link which solves the problem. A 4th mico adjustment should have been implemented by tudor in the first place.
For me I feel that the BB58 will always on the top of the Blackbay lineups. The color and the overall aesthetic is timeless. I fall in love with it when I got it, and I still in love with it till today.
Agreed, they definitely seem to have put a lot of thought into the first one!
i'm still in love with my BB58. Thank you for the great video.
Cheers Bobby! It's a classy watch, enjoy it 🤓
The OG is just an instant classic.
Regardless where the hype goes, it’s that
Had my BB58 2 years this month..added a steel OEM strap so have all 3 types of strap. Its all the watch you need 🙏🏽
Still hard to beat for sure, glad you are still in love 💕
May I ask how did get oem bracelet and the price you paid. I have leather version and was contemplating whether to get oem bracelet or strapcode one. Thanks
@@dariuszwojcik1601 hi..OEM bracelet was £500 from London
@@paulw1570 I also leave in London. Which shop may I ask ?
@@dariuszwojcik1601 David Morris Jewellery at Canary Wharf
I have the BB58 for 2 years. I wouldn’t recommend it as your first watch because you probably won’t want another watch after this. It gets the most wrist time of all my watches and I never stop being amazed at it’s beauty and functionality. The snowflake hour and second hand make for the best readability than any watch I own. When the sun hits it just right and the gold tones pop it’s simply breathtaking and I forget to actually read the time.
Stumbled across your BB58 video and then binge watched your others. Great channel, really well considered content and analysis. Subscribed and look forward to future vids.
Welcome Nick! Hope to give you more binge worthy videos to come 😉
I am 100% agree with you on the dial design, now I know what has been bugging me for so long, thank you!
Haha, OCD just like me 😉
First time I've watched one of your videos and I thought it was great. Really informative and helpful. Thanks!
Appreciate the feedback! Cheers 🍺
Quality of ur videos is getting so much better. Also faster pace, that is good. Don't understand how ur stuck at 5k subs, should have 50k!!!
Yes yes, people want that fast action 😉
Great review my friend, I love this watch. You pointed out the so many geometric figures in the dial, darn I never though about it, now every timeI am looking at the BB 58 all I see are the many geometric figures is so funny. Still I love this watch and it is on my bucket list along with the GMT. Best regards from San Juan, Puerto Rico, stay safe.
Haha, I hope I haven't ruined the watch for you Luis ;) Hello from afar and be well :)
It's honestly so nice to have west coast grey day representation in your drone shots lol!
Haha, thanks... Except when your drone gets wet 😬
Great video bro! Just found your channel and subbed! Keep up the killer job 😊🍻
Loved the video and thanks for sharing your thoughts on the BB58. The macro shots of the watch look superb. Just wanted to point that in my opinion, the intro and the outro are a little incoherent with the overall theme of the video. I look forward to seeing more of your content!
Another amazing video brother!
Thanks Miguel! appreciate you bro
Above my budget but wow, what a great looking watch. Also, its nice that you incorporate the outdoors in portions of your video. I am a fan of watches as I am of scenic views and the outdoors 👍
Thanks Kyle, the outdoors rejuvenate and it's an excuse to bring my camera to the beach ;)
@@WatchCrunchOfficial Good reason :). I think using nature shots gives you a different dynamic over other watch reviewers that shoot videos indoors, sitting down in a room. Keep up the good work! Enjoy and relax
I really enjoy your channel which is much more than the watch!
Thank you zhiyun!
I was worried you'd make me hate the 58 after that warning. I'm glad to say that didn't happen.
Kudos on the great editing and shot choices; I feel like it's not too often you see videos where a watch is taken outside to experience the elements.
Thanks Abraham! The beach felt like the right place for this watch... too bad it was raining the whole time
Nice drone shots of the Discovery park light house and great video.
I bought the BB58 with the leather strap. I love it, but I totally agree with your comment about the overloaded dial. Not a big deal however for such a wonderful time piece. Very nice video!
Yeah it's otherwise a perfect watch! And dial design is obviously subjective, congrats on your purchase, also love that strap 😍
Nice review! I've got this watch on order. How do you feel about your review one year later?
Do you think they will bring out the t clasp (bronze) to the bb58 range, it’s the only thing holding me back , greatly enjoy your videos 😎
I love my BB58. There is nothing like it. It has been my daily wear for last 2 years. The only watch you will ever need period.
Tudor just called out your foreshadowing. They must’ve been watching your videos. Looking forward to your BB58 Bronze video!
Haha, I got my ears to the ground 😉
Closer up, my favourite thing is the rich, round, 'ploppy' gold dust text and chapter ring application. The way it can shadow and catch the light, so round bodied. So much depth. It really adds a lot of character imo, versus, say a sub with simple, flat print white text that is shrewd and cold.
I do hope you are foreshadowing, that bronze in 39mm would be amazing and you're the man to make it happen Max. I love the BB58 but it is a small Black Bay and the Black Bay line is seen as Stepping Stone watch much like the Oris Divers 65 and many other really lovely sub £3K dive watches. Tudor need a destination luxury dive watch, I think they should have made the whole range of the Black Bay available as 39mm alternatives to keep us all happy then made something amazing , imagine a 38mm precious metal 9401 Submariner, something well over $10K, beautifully vintage and a real statement. 3 beers in Max and getting carried away 😂
Haha, thanks Morgan for your faith in me... Hope it lasts after the beers wear off 😁. I fear Tudor does have a destination watch, it's called a Rolex 😅. Good to hear from you as always Morgan
Another great video--the shots are fantastic. Like this watch, except for the gilt dial. I really like the Navy Blue version, although I haven't seen it in the steel yet. The blue has a cleaner look. The No Date and no crown guards really give it a vintage look that I like.
Alas, these are too hard to get right now. In addition, I am not willing to pay the Flipper Tax. I can wait until I see one at my local AD. Finally, it's no tragedy if I never get one.
Yeah, I'd give it a min until the hype dies down. I'm already seeing people unloading their blue bays on the forums😅
New sub. Love the production.
Welcome brother 👍
I’m a bit late to the game; I just purchased a BB58 in blue as my first truly nice watch. What a great watch it is!
Great channel, by the way!
Great call, enjoy Chris!
Another great video. Thanks buddy
Thank you, and appreciate you stopping by :)
Great video....and drone shots
Haha, you mean gratuitous drone shots ;)
Cool review. Did you have any issues with sizing the bracelet? I noticed you use 4 and 6 links on either side of the clasp which is my configuration as well. But, my issue is with the length of the clasp. It's slightly too big and pushes out the bracelet a bit which doesn't allow it to wrap around the wrist smoothly. Do you have this issue?
Yeah but then I realized that the clasp sits differently when you turn your wrist to look at it vs when it's in its normal position. Kind of like Schrodinger's cat 🤓
Great video! May I ask what similar watches do have those intricate details?
The new bronze BB58 😁
Hey there love your videos I have a question. I want to get a statement piece under $4000 brand new (got a lot of middle brand watches and such and a lot of divers already)
I would like to get one piece that says luxury and is my go-to, for let say, a weekend nite out on the las vegas strip w friends dressed up etc. Something that pops and looks superlative and special I would like to buy.
I've been thinking about the tudor style in black dial, or something like a carrera?
But I recently have been watching a lot of videos on tudor black bay. Especially the 58 in blue on bracelet. It looks really nice and I think would be perfect for my first lux piece but
..I think it won't be a statement piece or a visually stunning piece?
Haven't seen it in person. I've read a lot where they say the black bay is just very understated almost muted and the vintage aspect of it just doesn't make it look like a lot of luster in appearance.
Also , i have too many divers. But i dont just want to get a dress watch just to fill the evening watch statement watch when my gut says bb 58? I don't know. I haven't seen one in any store near me. What is your suggestion about the 58? ( in terms of style and look as mentioned above in my concern, not sizing as I know the specs are fine).
Really loving all the content on your TH-cam channel, ever since I watched your Speedmaster 38mm video! Every review is thorough and love the video work.
Any chance you'll be adding some Grand Seiko content to the channel?
Thanks Kenneth for your feedback! Yes, I'm curious about GS, but haven't really seen a piece that speaks to me. I want to try a spring drive, but they are a bit big
@@WatchCrunchOfficial currently own the SBGA283, one of their 39mm Spring Drive variants. I feel as though we have similar wrist sizes, and it's one of their models that fits a wide variety of wrists. If you ever want to possibly review it, let me know and we could maybe work something out!
That's very generous of you Kenneth! Beautiful watch. I'll definitely be thinking about this one. Where are you located?
@@WatchCrunchOfficial Los Angeles!
@@kennetha.1937 should try a snowflake, they really tend to wear a lot smaller than what you would expect
I own the BB/Black with NATO strap. My favorite tool watch. Head turner as well. People can tell it's not your average watch. Great review by Haute Ones.
Looks great on the nato! 🤩
Pulled the trigger on mine 2 days ago. Jeweller called, I went. Came home with a black bay 58.
Did the same thing on Saturday haha
Congrats guys! Hope you had a good experience at the AD
What color did you get?
@@clownfish7776 I went with the BB58 Blue, just love the understated looks of it. The blue is almost a slate color and in certain lighting it almost looks black or a dark navy.
@@daverichards1337 Both the blue and the black look amazing. It's definitely a hard decision to choose one over the other. Congratulations on your blue BB, great choice.
Which reference numbers of speedmasters are best for 3-4k?
Well crafted content again....thoroughly enjoyed watching. Owning the same black variant, any negatives aside I find myself ogling thg blue :-)
Yes the blue is interesting! Wish they kept the red triangle on the bezel 😉
Go for it!!!
Lovely watch, great video. I am really hoping Tudor drop a milsub reboot this year, it's an obvious choice to cash in.
That works get the people going 😉
I can’t stop staring at my beautiful BB58 black….it’s simply gorgeous!
I just got the silver and I'm suffering the same affliction 😊
@@WatchCrunchOfficial aaah the silver one is beautiful and the patina that it will develop is going to be amazing …enjoy it brother!
Yes!! I've been fantasizing about a BB58 BRONZE
Stay tuned 😉
Good visuals on this video. One note about the geometric shapes. This is part of the history of this watch as a tool for the Canadian Navy. One of their requests was to further differentiate shapes from the previous iterations supplied for the Marine Nationale. So for me, I like the story for why we have the shapes on the dial. A full snowflake version would be great as well but overall great watch however you look at it.
Good point. I have the 70s snowflake as well and I find that design much more coherent and pleasing with squares everywhere.
@@WatchCrunchOfficial I think you miss the point of this watch…while certain watch geeks will search out the watch you own,many others just want a good looking watch without obsessing over minute details. Not to say one is right over the other,just stating an opinion. Not everyone can have an original snowflake,and congrats on yours,but not all of us need that. I myself just liked the vibe of the BB58 when I first saw a pic of it and eventually bought one. I have a datejust I bought new in ‘83 and love it…the BB58 is just a change of pace for me. To nitpick a watch to death over perceived negatives is disingenuous to me. It’s what YOU want or don’t want…not a shortcoming of the watch.
Methinks you all make a mountain out of a molehill.
@watchcrunch where sis u get that brown leather strap ?
I liked this watch so much I bought it’s blue brother too. 🤟🏽
Would you recommend black bay 41 or this 58? Seriously consider either one....
I'm wearing a BB58 (black) as I watch this. I wear it by choice over my Rolex's. It has the perfect look and size for me. I don't at all understand your complaint about the dial. It's a pretty standard diver configuration.
Good question. It's a beautiful watch. But to my eyes, the Rolex sub has round shapes (mercedes, lollipop, hour indices). The Tudor pelagos for example has square shapes instead. The BB58 mixes the two and that bothers my esthetic sense.
Thanks for the review
Thanks for watching!
Someone tell this guy he’s wish has been granted! Well done on calling it!
Thanks Lyle! Nailed it 😉
Shit dude, this was a damn good video. Great production.
²⅔awwwaw3aaew
Appreciate that brother!
Hey bud, awesome video.
What strap is that @ 5:42?
TIA.
It's from watch gecko. Olive something 👍
So what watch did you go for at that price point
Hello! Can you explain me what makes the BB58 a better deal than a vintage ♎️ 2531.80? (The price of the latter is around 2700$ today)
Completely different designs, probably speaks to very different crowds. I am very impressed with how tight the endlinks fit in modern Rolex/tudors. Makes changing straps a pain 😂
I’ve had a few watches that I suppose would be in the luxury category… Have not yet owned a Tudor. I have been very interested in the Pelagos (42mm Titanium)...One it has a top grade ETA movement that is less expensive, as compared to the in-house movements, to service. It’s dinner the models with the in-house movements… Although 42 mm as a lug to lug of only 48...I guess I need to try on both...I have a 7 1/2 inch wrist so I am thinking proportionally 42mm might be the way to go...thanks for the great review....as always!
John, I love the pelagos from a design perspective. Just like the old snowflakes, the square markers go so well with the hands. If you can pull off the size, go for it 👍
Got the BB58 black year and a half ago. Also have a Rolex Sub which is one of my grails. My BB58 gets the most wrist time. Proportions are perfect and just love it. It's a lot of watch for your money. If and when a BB58 comes with a gmt function, I'm jumping on it....
Yeah definitely a steal at this price👍
Outstanding Review!
Thank you, appreciate the comment 😊
As a vintage inspired watch, I still like the black over the blue.
Agree completely, the blue doesn't do much for me. The black and gold with the red accent is a thoughtful design
I agree the the dial lacks a little bit of the macro detail. However, I think the case and bezel make up for that, at least for me. The form and subtle curves of the case and the bezels fine refined knurling are what allows such a bold and somewhat unrefined dial to shine. The watch as a whole design is really quite brilliant. I could do without the snowflake hands though.
Yeah, if they just got down to 3 shapes (e.g. pelagos + BB bronze), then I think my eyes would appreciate it much more, but that's very subjective. Agree the other details are dead on!
Bought my second BB58 (Blue) about four months ago and still have the original Black 58. I initially thought the black was more special (and it probably is) but it’s the Blue that gets most wrist time.
Enjoy the honeymoon 😉. It's a clean design
Also have the original. Waiting on the GMT to come in now and then debating if I want to grab the blue as well lol. Just so in love with the 58
The BBBronze dial into a 39mm case, with the BB58 black and gold features, would be an instant buy for me. Get on it Tudor!
They did something similar recently with a version limited to certain boutiques, but that was 4mo after this video 🤔😁
It will ALWAYS be on top!
It's gonna be a classic 👌
any idea where is that leather strap from at 6:50? looks good
Watch gecko
love the video! What strap do you have it on in the video?
Thanks Jake. It's a watch gecko highley olive
@@WatchCrunchOfficial Fantastic video man and really nice strap.
Good vid. Keep at it!
Appreciate that Mark 👍
I hadn't actually seen the Black Bay Bronze dial with the Arabic numerals. That is very cool, and I would love to see that variant on a BB58 model. I don't really have an issue with the shapes, as it is true to the vintage design. I also wonder if Tudor has any plans to slim down the movement in the Black Bay heritage in the 41mm sizing. The thickness of that line is the only thing that makes me hesitate, because I do have a 7.25" wrist that can support that diameter, and not have it look large.
I agree, the heritage is too thick. Stay tuned as I will try and squeeze a BB bronze dial into a smaller case 🤞
Great editing.
Thanks Scott 👍
Hey Max!!!Well,I've always been in love with Tudor B.B.but,I think a cheaper good alternative would be the Eberhard Scafograf mcmlix...for me of course.I'm planning to buy it this years. What do you think?Ciao from Italia and keep it up!!!
Hey Leandro! The eberhard is a very interesting looking piece. Keep up the hobby and develop your own taste 😁. Cheers
@@WatchCrunchOfficial by the way...where do you live in Seattle?
I could get this watch with papers and everything almost brand new with no scratches for $2700 are the prices going down in the future because i'm not planning on keeping it forever
Wow that's a great deal! I paid will over 3 for mine
"A cacophony of geometric shapes." Well said! The gilt lettering on the bezel for the BB58 is something I'm still not sure I like. Anyway great content!
Same here. I would love a steel BB58 with the looks of the 925 silver version.
Nice and informative.
Thank you lian!
I very recently bought the Black Bay 58 Navy Blue on the steel bracelet to compliment a range of predominantly black-dialled watches in my collection that include the classic Rolex Submariner Date 16610 that I've owned for 19 yrs. The Tudor is a super, very well-made luxury timepiece and I appreciate its rather understated blue dial and bezel compared to the 'bling-blue' ceramic of my Omega Seamaster 300. Like-for-like think of the Blue 58 as a more modern take on its original black and gilt sibling. The blue really pops in daylight or in well-lit rooms and a pleasure to wear. Although not quite up there with the Rolex Sub in the absolute quality stakes - but why should it when barely 35% of the retail price - go to an AD and try one on. In-house COSC certified movement, 70 hrs power reserve, staggering lume.... you won't be disappointed.
I gotta say, the blue one looks good in person! But my fav BB goes to the 925
Are the golden colors meant to look like it’s been in a drawer for 60 years or did old subs just look like that in the 50s?
Beautiful video! I really love the leather strap. Is that an original Tudor strap? If not, what brand is it? How can I get one??
It's from WatchGecko. Only buy their higher end leather straps, the other stuff is pretty meh, but they do leather well!
Supreme Nato Black & Desert single pass strap by Crown&Buckle is perfection with the BB58. I'm highly recommending you guys check it out.
@@WatchCrunchOfficial Agreed. I have purchased a couple of their less expensive straps.....not impressed
This one is The vintage highley, the douglas olive brown is nice too. Most everything else I've tried from them were disappointing
@@WatchCrunchOfficial Thank you so much. That really helps! My strap collection is outstripping my watch collection. I keep buying straps that seem great in pics, but not so awesome in real life.
Is it difficult to get the batteries changed in these tudor watches . I’m not a fan of sending them off in post . Can you take them to a shop , I’m in London ?
It's a mechanical watch so you don't have to worry about batteries. Just needs to be serviced by a watchmaker every 5-10 years.
@@WatchCrunchOfficial thank you 🙏
The BB58 was next on the list, but gold's been seducing me lately, so I went with the hockey puck S&G. Nothing subtle about it lol.
That's such a baller watch Rod, congrats on balling outta control 😉
Love the champagne dial S&G. Seeing it in photos does it no justice.
Recently I was very surprised that seeing the BB58 live it makes sense to me. For some years now I thought there is an unbalance with the snow flake hands. So never really double checked this. But I was wrong, again. You know the consequence. A few weeks after my experience at the dealer I pulled the trigger. It was just last Saturday.
Congrats! Still can't be beat at it's price. Enjoy it 🍻
This will be my first "luxury" watch one day
Brilliant review. I own one and hold the same opinions.
I think the watch would have looked so cool if the indices were square rather than round...
Yes that is why I love the old tudor snowflakes❄️
Just curious if anyone else has a little bit of rattle in the end links? It's not huge, but there is an audible rattle from where end links meet case in mine. I presume this is part of the normal tolerances of this watch.
I'm feeling blue 💙 with the black bay 58 navy blue
You should get one!
I have a bb58 black with fabric strap. Should I get the metal bracelet?
Yes, I would say so. It's comfortable and I really like the buckle.
Yes...get all 3 strap types
I just scooped one up at an AD for 3k otd on a bracelet. Couldn't be happier.
Congrats! Great deal you got 💲💲
New ?
Is that Discovery Park in Seattle?
I can neither confirm nor deny it 😉
Personally I think the dial layout of current BB models is genius...nothing clashes for my eyes. What I could the BB line and BB58 accuse of, is that these obviously aren't real dive or tool watches...many other watches are too, but that is something that is very prominent in the BB line. While I think Omegas Seamaster 300 is an rather ugly watch, its more of its own thing without trying to be a remake of something.
On the other hand, there is no real alternative if it goes for a classic and classic sized dive style watch without any unnecessary fuss. Most other contenders are 41 or 42, which rule them out for me.
Just got my BB58 and really like, while not loving it (yet)...was eyeballing a 5 digit sub, but these made a price jump withing the last 2 years, which I cant see myself spending for such a rather simple watch.
All great points Ron, it's a fantastic watch especially at its price! The design aspect is very subjective
I have a new Sub yet the BB58 spends much more time on my wrist. The beauty of this watch is mesmerizing, and when the sun hits it just right, it’s a sight to behold. When I go to my watch box it’s the quickest grab.
I’ve had mine for 6 months now and not really had the time to wear it out because of lockdown. I can’t wait to wear it with my suit on and nice clothes! Then I feel I’ll truly get to love it
Here's to hoping we all get to put some mileage on our watches in 2021 Gary 👍
@@WatchCrunchOfficial thanks buddy!! Let’s cross fingers. Great channel btw!! 😊👍
Wear it at home, it is still giving you the time 🙃😉
Great video and review! The BB58 is a great value prop. However there are some minor issues I can't stand such as the faux lume and fake rivets. Those are details who break the deal for me unfortunately...
Yeah Petter, it's a tough call with these vintage inspired watches, very fine line the designers have to walk and can never appease everyone. I sold mine
Haha, thanks Phil... You are the best, right there...you ;)
@@WatchCrunchOfficial haha good one 😂Thanks for the watch 😉
Max... Could you talk about Bell & Ross and Franck Muller ?
Will look into it 😁
Will the bezel Color fades over time
Yes, over decades 😅
yes
Which watches are you in love with?
Do you prefer black dial to blue sunburst?
Both are 🔥. Black is more versatile though
Thank you. I want to get the new Tissot PRX. I’m just confused on whether to go for the black dial or the other. I’m waiting for the automatic version of it though. It’s a good looking watch.
I really hope they make the Black Bay Bronze into a 58 case.
Ask and you shall receive. Uploading your request now!
Something about the bracelet rivets just doesn't sit with my eye
Haha it took a couple years for my eyes to stop seeing them 😆.
Only downside to this piece which is dealbreaker for me😂
The watch is beautiful, the dial design is what makes it different otherwise it would look like another everybody wears Rolex
Great watch, especially for the price 👍
Love my bb58,really solid, well detailed, not ott, accurate and the right size! Or for me..
It's a superb watch! Glad it's serving you well 👍
@@PepRex that’s what I did, got one of the last older models 41mm and height 48mm ok on a 6.5 wrist.
@@PepRex just seen - really well, couldn’t be happier.
Aghh😣! I was SO close to purchasing this watch, but the fake "rivets" are something that would have forever bothered me.
Went in a totally different direction and bought an Alpinist instead.
I wish the Pelagos came in a smaller form factor.
The green alpinist always has a special place in my heart ❤️. A smaller pelagos does existed, but in the 70s, as the snowflake 😉
@@WatchCrunchOfficial Yes, I went for the classic green Alpinist as well! Despite the new color variants and questionable "limited" editions, I think green is the way to go (for both the old SARB or the new Prospex)
If it has a special place in your heart, you should totally do a video on it =)!!!
Was really into this watch last year but the hype and lack of inventory turned me off. Have a 2000 Explorer2, but find myself reaching for my Christopher Ward 38mm red bezel, black dial more often. Also have the green sarb 017 Alpinist, great watch. Still think bb58 is a real looker though. Nice vid H1, 👍
I own a LOT of high-end watches (Rolex, Omega, PP, ALS, Cartier, JLC, etc). Out of them all, my Tudor BB58 blue gets the most wrist time. To me, it just checks all the boxes.to put a finer point on it....if I were forced to sell all my watches except one....my BB58 would be the one I would keep.
You know, I finally got hands on with the blue this weekend, and it is awesome in person!
I am still considering BB58 blue or black. I like the blue one in person but I am not sure if it lasts long as the black one is more versatile. Do you still love the blue one now?
Ideal for 2021
Tudor gmt bb58 pepsi
Though travelling might would be none till covid 19 ends
That's a sexy watch👍