Maserati Grecale Modena review. Just how good is Maserati's 330bhp Porsche Macan rival?
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- The Maserati Grecale packs a mighty 330bhp in Modena form but is it really a true rival for the likes of the Porsche Macan and Alfa Romeo Stelvio?
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So basically, if there's a problem with the screen, you're knackered. I just love the irony of not being allowed to use a mobile phone when driving but then car manufacturers make basic vehicle functions - that we used to control intuitively - menu driven on screens that are nowhere near as easy or safe to use.
Spot on. Totally agree!
laws are daft arent they, all these touch screens...
100% agree.
In case you didn't know, buttons aren't exactly unbreakble either.
@@N1ckZ The screen on the Maserati also controls PRND, so if the screen fails, the car is inoperative. Hence my original comment.
A dark red one would look excellent. You can’t have a grey boring looking Maserati lol
That reverse/drive/reverse/drive on the paddles must be brilliant four wriggling into parking spaces. Rather damned clever! 👍
But not as simple as Mercedes' stalk-mounted auto selector
I didn’t know it did that! Going to try that out.
I have a Stelvio (and had a Giulia before) , they do the same but only to put it in D with the right lever! It doesnt work to put in R for which you always need to use the stick. Wish I could add that feature to mine - I love it
@@Frangranceif you put it to neutral first (pull both paddles) you can select reverse by just pushing the gear selector (no need to hold the shift button) to save 0,003 secs of your life.
@@mikewallace1723if you’re one of the early cars, yes it’ll work and super friendly to use and makes perfect sense, if you’re a later one it’ll only do drive with the right paddle, if it’s a current one it’s not possible at all which is a real shame. Apparently to do with some bulls*** legislation (probably from the states) where some idiot has inadvertently pulled a paddle and crashed. New GranTurismo doesn’t have that feature at all even though same set up, as per Grecale filtering through now 😢
To be honest , i wish the suv thing would go out of fashion. Apart from the trident grill, it could be a Cayenne/Kia cross. Struggle to find it amongst the herd in the supermarket car park. Stick with my old gen 7 Celica. Get lots of positive comments too for a nearly 20 year old car. Bring back the Coupe. Great video though.
I used to agree. Then I bought an SUV. The ease of getting in and out compared to a 'normal car' let alone a Celica (I owned an 190vvt)! Is easy. The slightly higher riding position is nice. But obviously. SUVs are hardly the last thing in driving dynamics. But truthfully, how often are you experiencing that last ten percent of performance in a sporty car. I get it. But also get it 😮
@@philipjames3526 You are quite right about the access, I turn 60 next month. Just love the more dynamics and looks, would prefer a Cayman but funds won't allow. Reckon the Celica is geniune future classic. Don't see this happening in suv world. Think smart watch, rather than a mechanical time piece. Cheers for replying.
@@markbrennan4693funny you should mention Cayman in an SUV/Crossover thread, because I have a 4.0 Boxster for my weekend thrills but absolutely love our Macan even though it’s only the 4cyl model - it’s such a brilliant all-rounder. The age of your Celica is making me think that you’re maybe stuck in the ‘90s with your assumptions regarding the handling deficiencies of SUVs - the current crop of “sporty” Crossovers are as far removed in their abilities from the early Merc ML’s and RAV4s as you’d find a new Cayman or GR86 would be to your Celica. Keep it as the “quirky fun classic” that it now is, but as a daily you won’t regret moving on…
Wait until everyone produces only EVs. Basically no difference between all brands.
Agreed. SUV = bus. Not interested in buses. £85K for a 4 pot, no button, expected to break down bus, no thanks. I'd rather buy a used M5
Would LOVE to see a video on the 94 Maserati Ghibli CUP 😊 Another great video Harry thanks 😊
Have 25K miles on my ‘23 Modena - has been fantastic all around; great road car; get 350-375 miles per tank on every day driving; very comfortable and everything works - zero issues; price, yes on the high side, but do I ever get positive comments from passengers and viewers alike. Lots of love about this car!
Very nice review, as always! It would be interesting to see the Trofeo version. How it compares to the Alfa Romeo Stelvio quadrifoglio. I had a Stelvio quadrifoglio - probably the best handling sports SUV out there! The problem is this thing is so dynamic, you end up driving way too fast! Now driving a much more reasonable Levante modena - it's so nice looking and so Italian! Love it!
Can't wait to watch this vid!! I've been wondering the same thing myself, which might be best from that group, looking forward to your take on it Harry!
Excellent video, thanks! My wife and I only started watching when Binder won a few years ago and have been hooked since.
Very interesting review. And the sound is so high quality - I heard the raindrops splattering on the windshield as if I was there!
Harry, I feel you, I have been a sucker for Maserati since the late 90s when I bought a biturbo, and drove from Boston to California and drive it daily for two years (!!). It never broke! I have owned several Ferrari’s since then (308, 355 spider, 365gtc) but the very late Merak SS I have now is the keeper, no hydraulics.
I should probably make a video on the Merak as I have stroked the engine to 3.3L and done some internal modifications (looks totally stock), but it has a bit over 300hp now at 7300rpm. It goes well. Very exciting car now. I call it the Merak R
Another fun review Harry. Well Done! I'd have the F-Pace SVR...........Wait a minute I have one after seeing your review of that!
I like it a lot . But for the money I think I’d go for a Stelvio QV
Harry I enjoyed watching your honest way to go bringing out the good 👍 and the ➖ of your car review.
Hopefully one day cars will look pretty again, but not yet it seems. It's hard to get excited about a boring looking blob of a car with a 2L engine.
Looks like a Ford Edge :/
Swap the badges over and from the front if you told me it was a Ford I'd have to really look. The grille I suppose, but yeah very uremarkable looking.
needs to be yellow
It's built on the Giorgio platform shared by the Giulia and Stelvio. Possibly one of the best platforms for any vehicle, ever. The multi-air 2.0L engine is also brought over from the Stelvio / Giulia. One of the best 2.0 4cyl engines on the market. Far from boring.
I see nothing boring about it. It’s quite good looking and the fact you f it being a 2L engine is irrelevant. It’s fast, it sounds great and it handles very well.
Great to see your smile, Harry! Says it all for me
Absolutely great first look!!!
What a superb review… how on earth do you not have a million subscribers yet ?
Lovely review. Have to test drive one when the lease is up.
Had mine for 6 months and only issues so far have been with the alarm and some glitches on the screens. Car is a joy to drive on motorways and not too big to impractical round town. I had the Trofeo version for a week and its another level. Fantastic car with the V6 form the MC20 but a little much for daily use.
It's good news they made a competitive car and I hope it'll bring them success. Personally, I'd never be interested in an SUV, as it leaves me totally cold from a design point of view. But if this could be Maserati's Cayenne, it would mean they can produce more memorable shapes and that's always good news.
Thanks Harry - best part of Sundays - the problem I have with these screen dashboards is they will look so old hat in 10 years - Dials & clocks never date - well they might date , but they add charm!
Great review, looks fantastic, Engine sounds great, comfortable and practical in a emotional way with excellent room and storage, big question is reliability and dealer network! I for one am tired of Maserati not having a higher class of dealerships and that is where it falls short but if you can get the price down by dickering then just maybe you can get past these issues!
I had a Levante as a rental car and it felt like a jeep cherokee inside with some stainless accents. This is a much improved interior and i love the screen.
Great video ‘H’ 👍🏻😀
It's one of the most complete SUVs available at the moment. I'd have this over any of its rivals.
bravo
A fool and his money, etc.
Agree, finally an intelligent comment on this video.
10:15 Harry is not only a great reviewer, but his magical wisdom can make a clock go back in time.
A very fair assessment. I have the Trofeo and it’s a fantastic fun car to drive 👌
Hi Harry, another great video which as all the others is so greatly appreciated. I have to say that this Maserati Grecale Modena in the colour you got is a seriously beautiful looking vehicle and which sounds great as you smash the accelerator and it flies up the road. I think the only things that is missing is like you mention in the video, is that magical Maserati sound from starting and the cost issue. Please lets us know if you change your mind though, and/or which Maserati you go for to scratch that Maserati itch. Best regards Jason
Thank you Harry. Do try the Alpina XD3 soon for comparison. Same BHP but 516lb ft (700nm) from a sonorous BMW straight-six diesel with its best-in-class 8-speed ZF box and iDrive comms. More room than the too-ubiquitous Macan; and much rarer. I bought one.
Great review. Love the Maserati brand👌🇮🇹🔥
Very Well Done!!!!
Thanks Harry
Great content as always - but do my eyes deceive me...!!?? On the clock close-up (10:09), the second hand appears to move backward.... didn't see time travel on the options list...!! 😄
Lovely looking drivers seat
So many lovely colours to choose from and the press car is this grey - that said I like the thing! Looks great, colour aside and it the engine is clever!
The interior and build quality is really a step up from last-generation models and at an all-time high for the marque! If I bought one I'd spec it a cream or white leather interior. Very impressive debut 1st attempt in the segment from Maserati! Just thought I'd mention the Maserati Levante Trofeo a wonderful car!! operatic, theatrical, magical engine and exhaust sounds!!!
Stellantis/FCA's 2.0L four cylinder seems to be a pretty solid unit! From what I understand, a Giulia Ti Sport is a sweet spot for that car, thanks to the lighter front end from that smaller engine. I've driven a few Jeep models with it, and it's a perfectly fine unit. That Giorgio platform underpins the Giulia, Stelvio, Grecale, Gran Turismo (M189), and Grand Cherokee WL. Lovely platform.
Stellantis just makes me shudder - they are an horrific corp, most noted for bad customer service, poor Q.C. and over-charging for panels & spare parts to the point where near new cars are often written off due to minor accident damage.
@@Beer_Dad1975 Sir, that can be said for a lot of car companies. Tesla, Range Rover, Mercedes. Take your pick.
Found the Stellantis engineer
Yeah but it turned out to be seriously unreliable in the Giulia..
@@Kylirr He did say the truth, though. I mean, can you dispute it?
Anyone notice that when Harry did a close up on the dash central clock, the second hand was going the wrong way?? 😂
Can't believe the comments didn't light up with this 🤔
Harry, nice review. I have also owned several Maseratis. After spending a week with the grecale modena I agree with your statement that it's missing a bit of that charisma. I just replaced my Quattroporte with a levante trofeo. The levante dispite not being a polished as the grecale still has that special sauce, not sure if it's the longer hood, frameless windows of sound of the 590hp Ferrari built v8. It was also way less than the grecale is I picked one up used. You should sample the trofeo products. They a quite different than the modena and GT trims... Love the channel btw.
I am the happy owner of a Trofeo since exactly one Year and I can tell you that with the V6 engine it’s a dream car
I took one out, it was really nice, it’s different and the badge is cool.
Enjoyed that Harry thanks. Do you have any plans to test the Audi RS6 performance, interested in what your thoughts would be.
Two of my favourite cars of all time are the Ghibli and the Bora fro the late 60's's/70's, an era when 300+bhp meant at least 8 cylinders and big capacity with a decent soundtrack👍 It's interesting to see how modern tech is achieving high power from comparatively small engines while hitting ever tightening emission targets, even though they may lack character compared to their forbears. Big colour displays in cars are not my cup of tea I'm afraid and this particular genre of vehicle isn't one that interests me personally although this one does seem to offer a decent alternative for the money compared to the opposition.
Why is the clock ticking backwards at 10:10?🤔
It's a Stallantis product, so if anything significant goes wrong outside of warranty, or it has a minor prang, it'll go to the junk yard because of how insane their parts pricing is and how poor their after-market support is. As with so many "luxury" brands these days, they are lease and return - not own - and incredibly bad environmentally.
@@Beer_Dad1975 Leasing is not a protection financially. Might save you the headache but whatever you save in parts pricing you will lose in depreciation because no one wants to buy them until they're discountied 90%.
@@MRFUCKOFF202 It's a protection financially if you can claim it against a business or use a company novated lease system - yes, private leasing without any kind of tax break is probably not a great idea.
Pretty much all of the e supercharger systems are only for low end response / transient torque fill. The ones I've seen in detail are only capable of running for short periods (20-30 sec max) as the energy involved is actually quite high therefore heat & energy storage become a problem quickly. The braap sounded very VAG to me. I'm guessing they've used some of the usual industry consultants / service providers to do the setup & tuning.
Agree with your comments. £84k is expensive and must have most options ticked! I have a Modena Prima Series with most options included and cost less than this. Love the interior. The space etc. is better inside than a Macan. Coming from a heavier car, the handling is a revelation. But miss 6 cylinder. It is quick, fast enough for U.K. roads.
Could you do a new base Cayenne review, thx Harry- keep up the good work
Just got a jeep grand cherokee 2015 summit model. Nearly same sterring wheel and centre display screen (ride height achieved)
Boot and rear set set.
that paddle feature would be quite useful to extricate oneself from a snowy or muddy situation
I drove this four cylinder version a while back and then the twin turbo V6.
That V6 to me in my opinion was completely badass!
Totally different characteristics.
It felt a lot more playful.
Here in the US the one I was looking at after tax was around 126k for the V6 version.
Would I pay that having the money to do so? Hell yes!
I really like these vehicles.
I suspect the V6 version would bump his 8/10 rating to a 9 or even a 10.. Really interested to see his thoughts on that one.
Fantastic, beautiful and very high tech!
I like that Infotainment display
And it bodes well for long term maintainability, along with the twin charged hybrid drivetrain. Truly a future classic, sure never to depreciate.
@@944play I sense sarcasm....
@@alex_yates Pish tosh! I'm overjoyed that a storied marque is releasing another NPC gray midsize crossover.
Top tips for when you need to squirt through Cotswold villages to find a better bit of road.
I like the looks and interior, I wonder if this will end up like the levante in the coming years...
the best thing about the paddle shifters is that you don't need to use buttons P D N R because you can do everything with paddles, when you start the car with the right paddle you go to drive, if you want to reverse you press left paddle, if you want neutral press both paddles simultaneously, when you stop you don't need to put in Park to turn it off, after pressing Stop it goes to Park automatically. so you don't need to use the buttons at all.
Referring back to one of your latest videos (Range vs X5), take this over the X5!!!
Sounds good, quite like a Golf R with the DSG farts. I've seen them at my local dealers and was put off by the 2.0L "hybrid" engine.
Thanks for the review! It looks a lot like a Macan outside. And like a Macan, it's not trying to be a sports car. It's a practical 'sporty' SUV at the upper end of the segment. So in this day and age the four cylinder engine, that works well, is what is needed. Many people who buy this, or a Macan, will have another car, and that's quite likely to be a sports car. It's great Maserati have got this one right, I like them being around and offering something different!
It's good to see this, there aren't enough large executive SUV's on sale now.
Now all the large executives will be happy.
I like the second hand going anticlockwise lal💜🙏💜
I would love to say to the Mrs, I'll take the Maserati dear'. Good review Harry. Your best.
What a product from Maserati! Beating the market atm. AMAZING!! Thank You for video and review! (Y)
Expensive shopping trolley, pub car, school run. Like using the battery boost- get rid of turbos. Great that cars like this are being made, but the character is getting ironed out now, they are all 2L vans. Love the video, Harry
Harry looked at home in it. 😊
Seeing Harry smiling, Grecale must be a driver ´s car.
Seems to be a stretched Stelvio (gorgio platform) with electric added to the Giulia/ Stelvio 280 engine... gear change paddles look familiar 😉
Get the V6 Harry i like you test that !
Great review Harry. I don't really get the whole SUV thing. I understand the higher driving position to get a more commanding view, however, when everyone is driving one then that is neutralised. As for this Maserati, well the name conjures up a great motoring history, however, this SUV looks just like many others on the road today (Macan, CX6 / CX5, etc.). So it's no wonder Masarati feel the need to offer an option of having the name etched into the lights. If you were the owner you'd never find it in the supermarket car park.
Here in Canada, crossover vehicles are now the best sellers. When you have to deal with snow covered roads for several months out of the year, you appreciate the higher ground clearance. A couple of winters ago, a friend ripped the exhaust system off his BMW sedan on a road with impacted snow and ice. Then there's the usable space a crossover affords with 5 doors and a tall boot, great for dogs or whatever cargo you need to carry. Families love them.
Really like Harry but couldn’t be arsed learning about this vehicle.
7:02 the sound of the closing door is amazing!
Shame there’s no oval gold clock! 😎
Love the FCA Giorgio platform - but missed opportunity they haven’t used it for cool retro-ish Fiats - yet. They could be perfect cut-price folk-sporty alternative.
For the love of God - no-one wants 101 different displays - they just want to get in a car and drive …. Drives me mental - I don’t want options, I just want a car …
Great car. But there’s certainly a price sticking point. £74K++ to kit it correctly, and only a 4cc. Trofeo would be the ideal, but for that money I’d rather a Levante.. but then it’s more money again. I’m also a big fan of Maserati, very much so. Another great video Harry, I enjoy them all, thank you!
all these modes are so useful to optimize the school runs, probably the main use of those things!
in the US, Maserati's depreciate in value faster than they accelerate. So I'd be interested in whether this one does any better in holding its value.
Do you live near Uri Gellar? The clock second hand was going backwards 😮
Harry at the 10:10 timestamp you can see the clocks second hand was going backwards. Very strange.
The inside trim is beautiful!
Looking forward to Harry's comments on the predictive gear selection on the new Tesla Model 3.
A lot of great buyer points there and if I was in the market I’d buy, one negative thing is those headlights are lost on the expansive front and also look to much like a Fiat Punto😢👍🏻🏴
A nice video. Grecale GT and Grecale Modena are cheap compared to the Macan and Macan T. However, the Macan S with its V6 engine of 380 HP is a bargain compared to the Grecale Modena (German prices).
You'll find (probably) that your tractor has a similar reverse/drive function, useful for loader work.
I am guessing you would probably fall in love with the Grecale if it had a V6, so logically, that should be the next one you review. I love the Grecale.
Finalllly! I’ve had mine for 9 months and wanted to see what you thought of it 🤣
12 minutes in, i literally did not know that about reverse and using the paddles to go back and forth 🤣Nice!
I dont disagree with any of the review Harry! Wonderful insight! In comparison, i was considering Macan and GLA35, but this one had more character I thought, and it was nice for Maserati to finally get some good tech!! Im happy to have a Maserati in the garage and I am happy you seemed to enjoy it 🤣
Also, prices seem a bit inflated in the UK. In the USA they have dipped down from release a bit!
Nice car but I like switches also having your drive modes alll on a screen, what could possibly go wrong?
For me it looks like any other car of similar size! Without the badges it could be mistaken for a Ford or any of the German rivals 🤷🏼♂️ But that interior would sway it for me I love it 🥰
I’m really impressed with this car, however, I dislike the Ford puma looking front end and the Mercedes looking rear end, otherwise, great review and would I consider one over the Germans , most definitely yes, but it is definitely Maserati being pushed down the road of this suv design trend. Ultimately, I would still choose a Range Rover for my needs 👍
what are you talking about? Ford probably took inspiration from Maserati in the first place, the front end is a direct inspiration from all the previous models starting with the 200S and the likes of the 4200GT.
@@nailil5722 Still looks like a Ford Puma
Incredible to think this is Maserati's first attempt in this segment yet matches and even betters its rivals! In some departments e.g. build quality, straight-line speed (beats a BMW X4M Competition in a drag race!), betters a Macan for interior space and practicality etc..... This is a sign of great things to come from Maserati! as shown by the MC20! The Maserati Levante successor and Quattroporte successor should be no less than awesome! and best in class!
Would be good to compare against the Alpina XD4 which is sadly not available in the UK
Quite like the look of that, bit like my Cayenne actually. Trouble is it cost twice as much (as I paid), has half the engine and no lovely buttons!!! Maserati are producing the goods but will it sell + deprecation?
Well done Maserati, Would have adored the Trofeo to come with the old glorious Trofeo V8- what a car that would have been with this new found chassis set up skills! Please revert to buttons - not everything via screen!
Nice piece of kit ❤ I think it looks very Porsche like. If you are concerned about the price tag of a new one just wait and get a 6 month old one, will be worth 50% less 😅
read my mind, here in the states they depreciate faster than Wiley Coyote falling off a cliff.
It looks very Ford Puma!
I finally found it. The front reminds me of the Ford Puma!
Harry needs a special Rocket driving setting! 🚀
Harry, if you fancy another Maser, buy yourself a Merak! The sleeper of the decade, and one of my all time favourites. Simples!
I can’t help feeling that this is another badge engineered Maserati, that is so far removed from the Ghibli Cup which in 1994 had the same horsepower, but this time from a Biturbo 2 litre V6, which had huge character by comparison.
i have the maserati grecale trofeo, great car
it's the styling that lets it down massively.. But, as a used proposition for practical daily use.. probably well worth considering a couple of years down the line from now.. When they're at the same price as a 5 yr old Macan... Love the forward and reverse function on the paddles! Bloody brilliant idea!
It looks great inside out but a 2litre 4 cylinder in a 100K $ car is just laughable.
A Maserati SUV. Where have we gone wrong?
what's wrong with that lol times change
This is entirely the fault of the Governments you have elected, these crossovers only exist due to emissions regulations.
Marketing way it's wrong
@@connormatthews522 very bad changes....
You also have Ferrari SUV, now that's bad. Lmao
Forward and reverse with the paddles is clever, is it a first?