Why The 'Worst' Maserati Is Now The Most Desirable - Maserati 3200GT
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 มิ.ย. 2024
- The Maserati 3200GT is objectively not as good as the 4200GT and yet I believe that it is the more desirable car and that it will be higher valued in Future. The very weaknesses that it had at launch have now become strengths.. especially that this is the last Maserati with it's own specific engine. Why The Maserati We Loved to Hate is Now The More Desirable. Why The Maserati We Loved to Hate Is The One To buy.
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Hmmm. Would you take this over a sporting Jag? Be interested to hear....
Probably not because of running cost and I find the chassis too stiff. But it’s still a very alluring car and would feel way more special than the equivalent Jag. As well as totally out handling it when driven hard..
For an hours drive yes, to own - no
I would go for a BMW M635CSI as a daily runner.
That is a beautiful looking car interior and exterior..👍
@@josvandencamp8441 they are a money pit, believe me I've been there...
true story about the tail lights.Actually we had designed those taillights for a proposal of a Fiat New Large,a Croma replacement that never went to production.Cantarella liked the idea and told me that he will take those to Giugiaro,that was was developing a Maserati….so I had to design new taillights for our New Large.2-3 years pass,had almost forgot that incident,but here comes the Maserati with those taillights.😂😂😂
Great to hear thank you!!!
The boomerang rear lights are so unique that it enhances her classic status
The 3200 and 4200GTs are underappreciated 90's Giugiaro styling masterpieces. I always had a soft spot for both.
Never been the biggest fan of Maserati in general, but I really like the taillights of this specific car.
So true, the 3200 became a beautiful classic, they don't make them like that anymore. I miss the old school Maserati's.
I was brought up in Italy in the 70’s and 80’s and remember drooling over a biturbo with a Missoni interior
I'm curious about the Maserati V6's . Did the SM motor have anything in common with the Biturbo V6 ?
@@Jonathan-dq8hb , pretty much nothing in common.
@@Jonathan-dq8hb Apart from being a 90° V6 (an odd choice, as it has more vibrations than a 60° unit), no.
Car experts are a lot like watch experts. It can take them 50 years to identify a good thing ! 👍
Just exactly makes someone a "CAR EXPERT "?
Not restoreable with all those horrible chinese elecronics
It’s the same with everything. People like to rediscover old things that were not appreciated at the time. Typically they sell less because of it which means they become more rare as they age.
I would rather have a knucly gearbox, than a flimsy one,…. Otherwise, Great to see a display of classic italian style.
I liked the 3200GT, it was a much nicer shape than the older boxy models.
That barrel-chested crossplane V8 growl suits Maserati perfectly. Reminds me of the 4.7-litre V8 Ghibli.
I have one, had it for a couple pf years now. She drives me absolutely mad sometimes. Yes there are much better gt cars out there...but, she is a Maserati, a beautiful v8 Maserati, and she fulfills her role as a gt perfectly.
Well done you.
Many years ago I had a 2002 silver one. Absolutely beautiful. But the cost of running her was enormous. After I had the 4200 and then the gransport. But looking back the 3200 was my favourite. They really are good value to buy if you can find a good one. But trouble free they are not!!
Do a preventive check of the thrust bearing... you don't want crank float and a total engine failure that will cost tens of thousands to fix (assuming you can even find parts).
I went for the GTA to almost eliminate that issue
The 3200GT is truly beautiful looking car, sounds fantastic and is supremely elegant, what's not to like.
Thanks for the drive, Jack. I never tire of your effortless discussion as you drive no matter the mount. You’ve got a real skill there!
I appreciate that! Thank you and glad you enjoyed it!
I just saw one in my neighbourhood in Kuala Lumpur Malaysia two weeks ago.... silver.... those boomerang rear tail lights still looks nice
had one for 17 years and it's still the most special car i have encountered. Great review.
I'm an old man, old enough to remember well when the Ghibli and then the Indy and Bora were introduced. Other than the name this doesn't mean Maserati to me. Thanks for a great video here, and best wishes from Texas!
Big wave to Texas and thanks for watching!
The main difference is that a the time Maserati was losing money, now there make money
Best rear lights. Ever. (p.s. the dubbed audio adds to the Italian nature of this video 👍🏻)
a good one is highly desirable back in 2003 i drove a 97 3200 Maserati back to its owner from Harlow to Colchester for Lancaster's body shop what a car superb this was a semi auto .i would have a good one in an instant .good review jack.
Bought 3200gta for my 40th; Maserati blue and terrible throttle issues. Bought another 3200gta for my 50th. Much better car. Overlooked advantage over the Granturisimo, had a 4.7 mc, is that it’s compact (narrow) and much lighter. Deeply flawed but beautiful. Was a nice partner for my 166 3.0 Alfa.
Thanks Jack🙏🙏 , always liked the look & sound of these!
Love the beautiful countryside scenery!! Great vid
I TOTALLY ENJOY ALL YOUR AMAZING VIDEOS, THEY are insanely informative & entertaining, even the length of your video reviews is fine length-wise, so I can actually see it through, from start to finish. Thanks for an incredible Channel.
Just love this channel and content, such uplifting funny and enthusiastic content, pure pleasure to watch!
Excellent video as ever.
Thank you for this video! Amazing history and information!
I only drive Italian cars for almost 30 years now. I think they’re totally worth whatever extra effort or money is required to keep them right
But you are also correct that the maintenance is essential, I drove a 4200 convertible about 20 years ago and it had belonged to some football player in LA, and at 50,000 miles. the thing was falling apart. It was horrible. Structural rigidity wasn’t particularly impressive either .
Sure would like the chance to drive a nice example like this one, lovely car
BTW, you shouldn’t pass on the chance to test one of the more impressive biturbo era cars like a Shamal or Ghibli 🤷♂️
Or maybe a late 90s Quattroporte Ottocilindri
❤Maserati are masters of exhaust sound❤
Not stock
I have the 4200 Coupe, Cambiocorsa with the Ferrari engine had it for 4.5 years now with no major issues. I keep on top of services an repairs myself, not that difficult. Fantastic car, but would love the boomerang tail lights, shame they had to switch them for the 4200. Another great video Jack.
You know what I'd love to see you do? The original Quattroporte from the sixties. Somewhere here on YT there used to be a video of Peter Ustinov driving his. I never saw one here in Texas on the road; it was always just there in car mags. Of course when the M-B 6.3 300SEL came out in the late sixties it rather deposed the Quattroporte as the most desirable hi-po sedan, but of course the SEL just looked like any other big M-B sedan.
If you were to be this side of the pond on August 31st the Maserati Club UK are holding a “Quattroparty” at Blenheim Palace to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the model. You will see many examples of both the older and newer Quattroportes there and, a Benz doesn’t compare!
In one of the episodes of Miami Vice, I couldn’t understand why I so sympathized and even understood the main character of Bruce Willis (a drug dealer, it seems). In addition to his gorgeous acting, the reason for my sympathy was his top-end 4Porte. Of course, this is not original luxury from the 60s. But one of the main 'bad boy cars' in the 80s
Great video Jack. I owned a 4200 Spider manual with a Tubi exhaust for 3 years. It was a great car but suffered from chassis scuttle shake when pushed hard in the corners, was thirsty too! But, I loved it!
This is a beautiful car all round and those rear lights! I agree with the colour too that can make or break a deal when buying any car of value.The V8 sounds good and not too over powering for this car, you want to keep the neighbours content when you leave the house! Great review once again Jack please keep them coming. 👍👍
Looking forward to seeing this video. I love Maserati’s of all ages, this and the 4200 Gransport are favourites of mine, despite what others may think.
I agree with all you say. I’m looking at the Gransports on auto trader right now.
@@MrDallman There’s a lovely grey one with red leather. Although.. the blue with cream leather is just as nice.
Mine is possibly going up for sale soon. 2005 in Rosso Mondiale 59k miles with recent clutch and just spent £4500 last week!
The boomerang tail lamps are the ones that people go crazy for. Great video as always Jack! Always makes my day seeing what cool car you found to review.
Edit: Please viewers, if you know someone with a Shamal, introduce them to Jack. 😅
Ahh Kev… I would love to do a Shamal video! Thanks for watching chap!
Jack....my fav car as a teenager now doomed as a shell suit.....Great video once again.
Absolutely brilliant video jack ❤👍what a fantastic car absolutely love it brilliant
Pretty car great review Jack keep them coming
Thanks for reviewing this beautiful Maserati 🇮🇹👌🏻
Great review! We have had one of these in our auction room. It ended up in the workshop for 18 months with electrical issues. The trim too didnt handle the Australian heat and bits were warped headlights cloudy etc. it cured my “curiosity”. I could take any car I wanted home, this wasnt one id trust to get me there. Beautiful tho
I always liked that model, especially the rear lights. Apparently the American market didn’t care for them, hence the change to the dull… sorry, amended rear light cluster
Love the looks of these!
Always loved these - especially the boomerang lights. Great video but is it just me or is the sound at the start a bit off?
Great video, Jack. I looked long and hard at these before deciding on my GranSport. They look great and those tail lights are really something, but every one of the 3200’s I looked at had some sort of lingering gremlin and couldn’t get accustomed to the power delivery and throttle response. In my opinion, the GranSport is the best looking and best driving of the platform. The sound and power delivery is awesome and are generally more reliable than the 3200 (my mechanic also strongly recommended the 4200/GS). And I personally love the CambioCorsa, but I’m probably in the minority there. Keep up the great work and look forward to seeing more Maserati (and Pantera!) content.
good looking car, great video,,, "more shell suit than Valentino" love it😂, 👍
I swallowed the brave pill, I took time to find a good manual, still delighted now, years later. Hated is a strong word, maybe more clickbait than reality! New rubber (Michelin PS4's) makes a huge difference to handling. Good to see a more positive review at last. Becoming rarer now that so many have been broken for parts, Try one whilst they are still under valued.
Nice one Jack. If you do a future video on the Maserati Biturbo I would love to know if the following is true:
My Italian brother-in-law told me that to prove that the Biturbo was in fact reliable, they organised a 24 hour endurance race at Monza and had 6 of them going round at full pelt for the duration. Apparently the event was abandoned after only a few hours when all 6 cars broke down.
Gorgeous looks, fabulous engine, plush inside, fabulous exhaust!
Minor issues were lack of traction, those damn switches peeling off their rubber coating therefore cheapening the luxurious interior and some servicing costs.
Some parts were cheap, others like wishbones especially with the Skyhook suspension were ridiculously expensive
The Cambio Corsa dual clutch gearbox is a right pain in the arse unless you’re really thrashing it
Superb content as always Jack buddy 👍 👌
Thanks old boy.. you coming to my meet in Bicester on the 23rd? Not even sure if you’re if you’re local… but would be great to meet in person if you are!
@Number27 Hi Jack I'd love to come down and meet in person but unfortunately I live in Northumberland so not local, I have two businesses and five children and a wife that demand my time 😅.....one day buddy I'd love to come to one of your meets , that would be fantastic 🤘👍
@@ryanmccormick2150 No worries dude.. maybe another time!! I do think you mentioned before you were quite far off!!
You channeled Ali G during the intro.
Booyakasha!
I was always on the side of the 3200GT - it's a beautiful car. I especially liked the rear lights.
I’ve got a huge soft spot for these 🤩 they are better looking than the Gransport, incredible value at the moment too 👏 great video
Thanks dude.. hope you have some luck with yours!
I’d like to politely disagree…@dadcars…love the GranSport and think that model is better looking. Ps…love your videos, your presentation and your girls are wonderful. Thank you for all your videos.
I agree. The Gransport may be the better car but looks like a parts bin special
@@russellbird7543 Hi Mr. Bird, I promise, the looks would grow on you. These cars are fantastic…especially with the right modifications.
Hi Jack, you forgot to mention THE single biggest issue that should concern anyone interested in buying a 3200GT. The thrust bearing on the crank rear has a tendency to fail on the manual cars, causing "crank end float". When the bearing fails, it spins and damages the crank beyond repair. Preventive maintenance / replacement is the only solution, there may be some Maserati specialist that has designed upgraded components but I'm not aware of it.
Love the Boomerang lights. Drove a manual 4200 Spyder and it’s my favourite car to date. The noise, the room for long legs; a flappy paddle one no thank you, but a manual one I’d happily own any day of the week
Between 2006 and 2019 I owned both the 3200 und 4200 (both with manual gear) in succession. I loved both cars. The 4200 proved to be especially reliable and cheap to drive as far as mechanics and bodywork are concerned (electronics not so much). It may have been the cheapest car I have ever owned in terms of EUR/km, despite its fuel consumption of close to 15 l/100km in average. Being a father of four the comfortable backseats meant I could use the Maseratis more often instead of our family car. I sold it only because my trusted and competent mechanic who had also taken care of my Alfas and the Ferrari retired. Without a workshop with people loving these cars and who know what they are doing exotic cars can easily turn into a money pit.
A neighbour had an MC Stradale,what a superb sounding and looking thing.
A bloke over the road from me bought one of these boomerang rear light ones brand new in the dark metallic blue, which suited them very well. Looked lovely. The rear light shape is essential to these cars IMO.
I remember researching these for a video I made, and apparnetly these has a late showing regular automatic over the Sequential Trans. Still had those boomerang tails, and its such a shame they got rid of those before they came stateside and with the new engine. I have a diecast of one of these, lovely to look at. Kinda wish they kept this specific styling for the mechanical upgrades later on for the 4200/US spec cars.
Fact about Bill Clinton's Monica. Scarab Sweepers were about to introduce an new road sewwping machine called Monica. Then her sh1t hit the fan and they called it the Scarab Monic. I've driven a few. A Lady that I worked with at BG had a BiTurbo in 1994, she let me have a go. It was brutal on he turbo. That 3200GT looks addictive.
🥝✔️ 4.086 bore spacing Maseratis. It's Ferrari which changed its whole V8 and V12 engine lines to suit the old, historical Citroën SM and Bird Cage 4200-4700-4900 engines.Hello from D🙃wn Under
You certainly can't find fault with it's looks.
No!! I think they are incredibly pretty..
Personally I think they look a bit tubby and fat. Still a pretty good looking car and aged fairly well. But for me, not a great looking car.
The earlier classics look way better to me,the bora etc.This looks better than the horrible boxy ones but still not his best work in my opinion.
5:55 There is no point _"Where the 2nd turbo kicks in."_ There is simply a turbo on each bank of the V8, both meant to supply the same amount of boost.
Was going to say the same thing. He probably felt the change in cam profile at higher rpms.
Yes, parallel turbo system, so no 2nd kicking in, both always going the same. And fixed cam timing running lobe on bucket, and fixed intake path. So only variability that could account for that comment is something in the ECU tuning allowing more top-end boost or ignition timing.
That was the first car that actually scared me when I drove one in the year 2000 when I used to sub contract to a Ferrari dealership in Exeter Devon. That V8 sounds so good compared to the 4.2 version after it.
Lovely, lovely looks!
I absolutely LOVE this car: incidentally I bought a 2009 Audi S5 to keep company with my BMW 645Ci conv. so happy!!!!!
That body style really aged well. Super sleek and elegant. Reminds me of the Fisker Karma
The LED lights is what makes me want it so much way ahead of their time in shape and design.
I owned one while living in Tokyo. It had an automatic gearbox, which was very smooth (although many sports cars fans would not like), but this is a grand tourismo after all. Agreed on the plastic parts getting sticky in Tokyo summer heat. Electronic seats and windows were an issue though. Still my favourite car I owned.
No hatred from Australia. I really liked the 3200 when it was released. You are very lucky mate to drive one.
My favorite modern Maserati, a real beauty 😍
Love it especially the styling
Loved this review and your passion for Italian cars.
Nobody seems to understand the Maserati (Ferrari) Cambiocorsa system. The clutch is very controllable - you use the revs to do it, not a clutch pedal. I’ve been driving my 4200 Spyder for 8 years and I make gear changes without thinking now, smoothly under any conditions. It takes some time and mechanical sympathy to get used to, but becomes second nature, no different from eg heel and toe (but much easier). It helps if they are set up properly as well, which is easier these days.
Maybe someone will make a video about how to actually drive a CC one day.
always thought those boomerang taillights are quite interesting in design. They are so rare that I've only seen it once in my life
I had a Y plate over 20 years ago in the light blue… i think it was called azzuro or argento blue with cream leather and the same colour blue piping and it was an absolute beast! I also owned a 355 not long after which doesn’t come close to the mazza for power but both are beautiful cars.
I dig the voiceover 🤌🤌🤌
It looks lovely, but I'll keep my 4.2L Jaguar XK convertible, thank you very much, plus I will never go back to manual!
I was a life long Maserati fan without the budget ever to own one. This 3200GT was the first one that I absolutely LOVED the look at since the early Seventies. The Beauty, the elegance, a classic GT. It was the first Maserati since the legendary Ghibli that I absolutely loved. We do not speak of reliability. That is not the thing those vehicles are known for. I think it was probalby the very last real Maserati.
That’s the car that “cured” me of my ambition to own a Maserati. Test drove one and thought it was crap: driveline shunt, uninspiring drive, and plenty other duff stuff. Got back into my Coupe Fiat 20VT and was much happier. “Never meet your heroes”
I really rather liked this one. Could it be yours maybe had some issues?
@@Number27 - it was a brand new car at the time (Lancasters at Colchester - which I see got another name check in the comments). I’d inherited some money that was burning a hole in my pocket. The salesman didn’t help saying that he’d postpone the test drive if it was wet. Also, judging by the secondhand one they had on the forecourt, the depreciation was epic. I’m trying to remember what else I didn’t like (obvs a very long time ago) - pedals very close and offset? Trim was cheap. The driveline shunt was terrible - never felt it on a car before or since. I think it was this car that pivoted me from Italian to German GTs
@@meanredspider Sad to hear.. I do suspect though that it was a bad example even if new. No trace of driveline shunt on this one!
@@Number27 - it might be a “feature” of the flappy-paddle version but I met someone soon after that owned a 3200 and had the same thing. The salesman (he WAS a salesman so his comment is taken with the due amount of salt) said “They all do that”. In any case, I’ve never thought I wanted a Maserati since and, the next time I had a silly amount of money available for a car, it was a Merc GT I considered (bought a house instead and bought an SL a little later).
I love them - but I must admit that the most exciting car I’ve driven was a Coupe FIAT 20VT turbo.
I owned a 2000 model with 19,000 kms, navy blue with cream interior from 2007 to 2010 and I can agree with most of what is said by this gentleman in the road test. For sure it’s a flawed vehicle. Beautiful to look at, gorgeous interior, and an utterly phenomenal sound with the Mille Miglia mufflers that I had fitted. But the hair trigger throttle, various electrical problems, average handling/roadholding, high repair costs and regular throttle body issues detracted from my ownership experience. Your heart may desire it but I would not recommend this car to anyone.
Yeah…same experience with 3 Alfa Romeos!🤣 Grew up and had Skylines since…
Smells Like Gasoline just did one of them up..great prog.❤❤
SLG have a 3200 GT and not a 4200
Re early Maseratis (1:20 in), the pictures show 2 Meraks. The Bora had glass where the Merak had an open rear deck.
I have a 2006 GranSport. Lowered, upgraded sway bars, drive by wire, Larini decats, Tubi exhaust, ECU Tune - these cars are great! A lot of people do not have an understanding of Maserati and will comment on how expensive they are to maintain. Yes, they can be expensive…but that’s only because of the deferred maintenance…blame the owners and not the car. For all you behind the keyboard critics, go drive a well maintained one…and if you still dislike Maserati, so be it…but don’t blame the car…blame the cheap owners.
Nice car Jack, I've always been been a fan, even though it looks like a Fiat Punto from the front 😅👍
Jack. It never came with Cambiocorsa. Was either a manual or a BTR4 speed auto.The auto was a nice box.
At launch, those tail lamps were ground breaking. I'm pleased the 3200 is coming of age, and getting appreciation. Its a stunning shape...1998! Years ahead of the game... buy one whilst they're still affordable!
Very good review of an oftenly missunderstood car, and brand. As someone stated already, after-sales service is miserable. Premium car maybe, but Maserati brand and service is well below standards found on less special cars. Would buy one only with heart, loving the product, and having big savings on patience and cash to service it properly. As much as I love the 3200, is one of those cars in which the buyer must be certain first who will be servicing it, and after finding the proper specialist, start browsing the web to buy the best example he/she can afford. Thanks for the review.
I agree the back is unique. I wish the front had a more agressive grill opening with big trident (similar to the Khamsin) instead of looking so similar to other cars such as the DB7.
Hi there's a French guy Hedii (Smells Like Gasoline) who got his hands on a 3200GT to fix . Ok he likes to get his hands dirty fixing cars, but he certainly didn't like the experience. He's also done an old 4.24 Biturbo ,not much better...Worth a watch , you have to really love these cars too keep as a classic.
I remember that they had to change the rear lights for the USA market as drivers couldn't figure out when the car was breaking...
Hey big brother Jack! Oh wow, you got me with this one, big bro. I am an American here in NYC and have always loved these Maserati's. Just so conservatively, classically gorgeous and lovely-a perfect sports car for a perpetual JV baseball guy like me lol. I have never seen one of these early examples with those super sexy and even more feminine taillights and with that pure Maserati turbo V8. Really a great machine! I wish I was there with ya, even stuffed in that backseat, which literally looks like my baseball mitt. Amazing! Thanks big bro. JV Johnny ⚾⚾
Hey Johnny, great to hear you like this one bud!! Big wave over to NYC - love the place!
Ahoy big bro! Wave gratefully received and I send you one in England! Johnny
As a teen in the late 90s reading about this in Top Gear made me want one so bad, especially since it was so gorgeous. I was bummed that the version that actually came to Canada just wasn't as pretty.
Nice one, great car
It's simply beautiful❤
Would really love to see a review of the Gandini designed Quattroporte IV, particularly the final Evoluzione version reworked when Ferrari took over. Or maybe you’ve already reviewed one? 🤔 It would make for a decent “was it really as bad as they said?” video!
I love them - I think the restyle ruined the looks - the inverted hockey stick rear lights looked brilliant. And that tan leather interior and Alcantara head lining - wonderful. My kind of car!
Ever driven the q4 bi turbo evo .. fast car.
Always loved those rear lights. I think the 3200GT was pretty much the first car to make brake lights the major design feature they have since become. Conversely - and as an Alfa fan (GTV driver) - I've always found the front end of this car strangely non-committal - timid almost! It deserves a bolder design. I can't, as I suggest, image Alfa playing safe with a GT design!
Wow, this is a fabulous car. It has so many outstanding features.
It sounds great have to luv the 90’s cars
It is a beautifully styled car, not quite in the same league as some of the Maseratis of the 50's which were works of art, but very elegant nevertheless. The Biturbos were ugly by any conventional standard, but there is a quirky charm about them.
Very sensitive throttle response could indicate an issue with the driver by wire throttle....known issue and there is a chap in the UK that has his own solution for a fraction of the cost of a new electronic throttle. Was on Wheeler Dealers...
I was looking at one of these in around 2012 when you could find one for about 7-10k. I went and got an RX-8 and I loved that.. But I do often wish I went for one...(RX-8 was a lot cheaper all round)