What if Psyche-Locks Were in the First Game?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.พ. 2024
  • Made with objection.lol!
    Finally, I can release this monster of a video! This took me absolutely AGES to complete, due to there being a bunch of bumps in the road during writing causing me to have to swap out sprites several times, so this has probably been in production for the last month or so. But now, it's finished, and I hope you enjoy!
    Character codes! I got most of these from the discord server the Untitled Courtroom, that place was super helpful in getting all the assets I needed.
    Ds Miles Edgeworth (Witness): EHHNIW
    Ds Phoenix Wright (Defense): GEKDOU
    DS Maya Fey (Counsel): YYBTPK
    DS Maya Fey (Witness): TITKVJ
    DS Manfred von Karma (Prosecution): ZOKZKF
    DS Larry Butz: SOOSAG
    DS Judge: VKTFBF

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  • @Emerald-Fluffie
    @Emerald-Fluffie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +350

    “Thanks to you, I am saddled with… unnecessary feelings”
    *5 locks appear*

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      Wouldn't be surprised if they were black locks. Imagine if his feelings for Phoenix were so suppressed that he actually believes he isn't in love for Phoenix and just sees them as good friends at best.

    • @veracsthedefiled
      @veracsthedefiled 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@dnmstarsi He isn't in love with Phoenix, there's no reason he'd say he loves Phoenix just because he lost the trial, Edgeworth was known as the "demon prosecutor" in the first game due to von Karma's teachings, so its very likely that he started questioning his methods and eventually he decided to stand by the truth instead of winning every trial Von Karma's way.

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@veracsthedefiled Wrong, he's in love with Nick. Unnecessary feelings and all, dude likes the man especially after Turnabout Goodbyes.
      But seriously, don't try to argue about Edgeworth and Wright not being gay for another. Just have fun with it even if you don't ship those two.

    • @LollipopWNoChainsaw
      @LollipopWNoChainsaw 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@veracsthedefiled sane AA fan explaining to a wrightworth fan that their ship hinges on one single line.
      *guy talking to a wall.gif*

  • @KanariRaspberry
    @KanariRaspberry 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    Just imagine Apollo in first game :
    « OBJECTION !! Von Karma, you suspiciously touch your shoulder, this is where the bullet is !!! »

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Oh gosh, I never thought of that. That’d be hilarious, perceiving von Karma.

    • @LucyAdroit
      @LucyAdroit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Someone actually did an Objection.LOL that did this xD

    • @greenstarlover1
      @greenstarlover1 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@LucyAdroit Link pls?

    • @dylanzlol7293
      @dylanzlol7293 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      "Larry, your eye and hand get all twitchy when you lie."

    • @LucyAdroit
      @LucyAdroit หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@greenstarlover1 Look up "Phoenix Smart" by Razor Rat Productions

  • @55alegria
    @55alegria 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +208

    23:54 It would have been amazing if the locks were black, since apparently they are used for "subconcious lying" (aka repressed memories)... But they are also for secrets that people really don't want to reveal because if they come out, it would deal a huge psychic damage, probably because they changed of writers for DD...
    Anyways, good video

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      Ah, I see. As someone who hasn’t quite finished the AJ trilogy, I wasn’t certain how black Psyche-Locks worked, so I played it safe and kept them red just in case I used them wrong. But now I know, so thank you! Also, I’m so glad you enjoyed!

    • @55alegria
      @55alegria 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@mackenzie2462 Don't worry, I also don't know that much about the AJ trilogy

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@55alegria I see! Well, help is appreciated nonetheless.

    • @Nixahma
      @Nixahma 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@mackenzie2462 Yeah, they were originally used for Kristoph and weren't explained, but later used in DD and reasoned as a "repressed memory". Kristoph was probably a different case, though. As alegria said, it's probably since they changed writers and the actual meaning of the original black lock will most likely never be revealed.
      I do wonder how much of Edgeworth's memory loss was from the lack of oxygen and how much was his repression. Iirc he passed out very soon after throwing the gun, maybe from exertion, but if that's true then he remembers a surprising amount.

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@Nixahma Ah, that’s interesting, and also a bit sad. I wonder what would’ve happened if the writers had stayed the same or if they kept the original meaning?
      That’s a fair point, I’ve also wondered that to an extent. I think it may be a mix of the two, considering that the memories he did have were fuzzy due to the oxygen deprivation, but also so traumatizing that his subconscious most likely took what he could remember to make it into the form of a nightmare to try and repress it as much as possible. At least, that makes the most sense to me.

  • @zwrulez185
    @zwrulez185 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +198

    Obsessed with how this is completely faithful to canon with the exception of being just a little bit gayer

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      I’m so glad you think so, though I don’t ship Narumitsu so that wasn’t my intention, heh.

    • @zwrulez185
      @zwrulez185 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      @@mackenzie2462 I mean, to be fair, canon is pretty gay as it is. Anyway, this is super well done.

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      @@zwrulez185 Honestly? Yeah fair, haha. Thank you regardless!

    • @ArissaHaque
      @ArissaHaque 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      FRRRRRR THIS IS FUCKING AMAZING

    • @veracsthedefiled
      @veracsthedefiled 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@zwrulez185 No it's not, you're just afflicted with confirmation bias.

  • @mrmimeisfunny
    @mrmimeisfunny 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    That reminds me. In rise from the ashes there's this last bit in the detention center with Lana Skye that is just them trying to create a magatama segment without doing a magatama segment. The one where Lana admits to being manipulated by Gant.

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Oh, really? It’s been a bit since I finish RFTA, so I don’t remember every detail. That could be something I could try adapting as well, if I ever wanted to make a sequel to this in that case, considering this video was originally going to include a segment in RFTA before I thought of the other ideas rooted in Turnabout Goodbyes.

  • @ishanaprabhakar7542
    @ishanaprabhakar7542 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Von Karm's scream breaking the 5 psyche-locks was so cinematic I love it

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Oh, thanks! It took awhile to replicate the scream, but it was worth it. I’m so glad you liked it!

  • @eeveeleafy
    @eeveeleafy หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Canonically, Maya didn’t even know what tf that magatama could do

  • @xero9863
    @xero9863 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    tbh this is amazing that you wanted to recreate whole case but with one twist. Really good job

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Thank you so much! I tried to make as coherent as possible without having too much of the canon in it to make it worth watching, I hope that was accomplished.

  • @darkacadpresenceinblood
    @darkacadpresenceinblood 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    this was really good! i completely forgot the first game didn't have the magatama so this totally felt like it was canon

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Oh, wow, thank you! I’m so glad you liked it so much, I try my best to keep everyone’s writing as in character as possible.

  • @sheepishbaton0399
    @sheepishbaton0399 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

    I wish it was in RTFA and if i can present profiles to everyone

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      That is a good point, I think they could’ve been really interesting in that RFTA.
      This video was originally going to have a RFTA section, but that changed partway through me writing it. I may do a sequel in RFTA if I feel like doing so.

    • @sheepishbaton0399
      @sheepishbaton0399 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mackenzie2462 🫵👍

    • @UnderFan2014
      @UnderFan2014 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What’s RFTA

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@UnderFan2014 Abbreviation for the fifth case of the first game, Rise From the Ashes!

    • @UnderFan2014
      @UnderFan2014 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ohhh thx

  • @arcturus64
    @arcturus64 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Very well made!
    Also the transition between timeframes were great!
    Psyche-Locks were a great addition imo.

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Thanks so much, I really appreciate it! I’m glad you enjoyed the video :)
      Yeah, I definitely think it could’ve been interesting if Psyche-Locks were in the first game. This is only a small idea of what it could pertain.

  • @djlamar2
    @djlamar2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Man imagine if this is how you found out it was larry who stole edgeworth's money. That'd be hilarious

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Ha, that would be actually. If this video wasn’t already as long as heck and I’d been thinking about that, perhaps it would’ve been a fun but at the end, haha.

  • @namelessstranger
    @namelessstranger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    ITS SO WELLMADE?.?

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Oh, thank you so much, I’m glad you liked it!

  • @placek__
    @placek__ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Really well done. This really feels like it was from the real game.

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Oh, thank you, I really appreciate it! I try to keep the writing as in-character as possible.

  • @TheKYLEdavid
    @TheKYLEdavid 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    “What is this? Black magic?”
    “You’ve literally watched me bring a person back from the dead, why does this surprise you?”

  • @naattxxnaattxx7055
    @naattxxnaattxx7055 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Everyone is so in-character. This is great

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! I’m so glad you enjoyed it.

  • @moonmystery7469
    @moonmystery7469 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this is such a cool idea and gives a good impression of how you can believe something so strongly that for yourself it is the truth but in reality it is not, when I saw how sad edgeworth is and he thought he had done that to his father it but then the Psyche-Locks reveal it's not true oh i want so much to scream and just hug edgeworth honestly he deserves everything good, wonderful work on this love it a lot

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aw, thanks so much, I really appreciate the feedback! It certainly is something...anyways, I'm glad you liked the video so much! Edgeworth definitely deserves more :/

    • @moonmystery7469
      @moonmystery7469 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mackenzie2462 your welcome i do like it when i see some fan made stuff with edgeworth he deserves so much good stuff

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@moonmystery7469 He does! I'm glad you enjoyed it so much.

  • @antibeachballsociety
    @antibeachballsociety 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Magatamas, plus pesenting profiles as well, are things I'm really glad were introduced but you kind of miss them a little when you revisit the first game. Imagine the "ooooh what's gonna happen" feeling while hovering over Von Karma's profile in Turnabout Goodbyes, or being met with Lana's absolute monsters of psyche locks, and watching them shatter one by one when you dig into the truth of Gant's blackmail.
    That assumes Maya would let Phoenix keep the magatama after she leaves for training though. If it's a spare, she'd totally let him have it to remember her by while she's away

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very true! The weird thing about presenting profiles is that it’s only in JFA and T&T, because then it’s unfortunately taken out of the Investigations games AND the Apollo Justice trilogy…at least Psyche-Locks come back, though, albeit a bit nerfed.

  • @kristynab.6539
    @kristynab.6539 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This is such high quality! All that time spent working on this was absolutely worth it, love the way you write them! :D

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh, thank you so much! It really was an effort to get it done, I’m so glad so many people are liking it. Thank you again for taking your time to watch this monster of a video and comment on it as well :)

  • @STRiPESandShades
    @STRiPESandShades 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    This is fantastic, thank you for making it!

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh, wow, thank you! I’m so glad you enjoyed it, I honestly never thought it would be finished because of all the issues it ran into during development. But I’m glad I was finally able to get it uploaded!

  • @keepthebeat929
    @keepthebeat929 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This made me smile. You really captured Nick's dynamic with both Maya and Edgeworth. Well done.

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh, thank you so much! I’m glad you think so :D

  • @paulo547
    @paulo547 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It was really good. But i think you should have put black psych locks on Edgeworth on the last part

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah, yes, that was a mistake on my part due to not fully understanding how black Psyche-Locks worked yes because I hadn’t quite gotten to the right part in Dual Destinies while I was writing this.

  • @daniellelondon439
    @daniellelondon439 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is incredible!

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks, I’m so glad you enjoyed!

  • @thededsec1017
    @thededsec1017 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well done 👏 the production on this is absolutely quality. i'm glad you were able to release this video, you put in a ton of work and its doing very well. Almost 9k views as i type. I hope you continue to make more vids and find success

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Aw, yay, thanks, friend! I’m so glad you think so :) Yeah, it’s still crazy. Thank you so much dude!

  • @KirbyLinkACW
    @KirbyLinkACW 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Athena would have a field day in Trials and Tribulations.

  • @shuizaffre
    @shuizaffre หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Neat video! If I could offer any advice, I'd probably speed the dialogue of the text up more. It feels kinda slow at times, the text is a little faster in the usual games so it feels like someone actually talking at a normal pace.

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m glad you enjoyed it! Huh, I usually keep the normal lines of dialogue at the default text speed of 35 and speed up and slow down when necessary for effect, but maybe I should toy with the default a little more…thanks!

  • @thedebatemaster
    @thedebatemaster 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    oh goddamit i was JUST thinking about doing this, great video eitherway (speech blips are sometimes weird, ex. 0:38, phoenix's line)

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Haha, sorry about that. But thank you!
      Oh, oops, must’ve missed some stuff. This took forever to make as the video entails so it looks like I overlooked some mistakes😅 Thanks for watching!

  • @dovecat9140
    @dovecat9140 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    MAJOR kudos to you

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh, thank you so much! I’m glad you enjoyed.

  • @IvoryMadness.
    @IvoryMadness. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was interesting!

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed it!

  • @Wanesaie
    @Wanesaie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    would Edgeworth have black psyche-lock about his dad death ? right about when he shot karma and he passed out
    maybe it wouldve been it ?
    i'm happy for suggestions

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Oh, yes, this is a critique I’ve been getting a lot! In hindsight, I probably should’ve used black Psyche-Locks, but I didn’t fully understand how they worked yet since I hadn’t gotten to the right part in DD to have an understanding of them, so I just used red ones to be safe in case I misused them.

  • @dimdharma
    @dimdharma 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I suddenly want an entire game of nothing except breaking psyche locks in order to get closer to Edgeworth.

  • @Someone69769
    @Someone69769 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Cool idea!!!!

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, I’m glad you liked it!

  • @ValenGDA
    @ValenGDA 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is so well written, I love it!

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh wow, thank you! I try my best. I’m so glad you liked it!

  • @JoSephGD
    @JoSephGD 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There's a moment at the very end of Rise from the Ashes's final investigation that... looking back, seemed like a Psyche-Lock segment before Psyche-Locks could be seen.
    I want to see the final Lana conversation adapted into a Psyche-Lock sequence.

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I should take a look at that conversation, because I was planning on making part of this video in RFTA originally. That may be a fun thing to do.

  • @honestlywolfie
    @honestlywolfie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    EPIC!!!

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh, thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed it! :D

  • @Команданте
    @Команданте 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's so cool😍😍😍

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, I’m so glad you liked it!

  • @Mswordx23
    @Mswordx23 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I keep cringing with your repeated description of the magatama as a "lie detector". It detects when people hold secrets within their hearts they're afraid are in threat of getting out. The difference is subtle but important. It wouldn't activate if someone who is really short claimed they're really tall.

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oh, well, apologies. It was the best and shortest description I thought would get the point across enough, though I suppose I should’ve reworded it. I’m not quite sure why I kept using that descriptor, if I’m being honest. So apologies again.

  • @-N0-Name-
    @-N0-Name- หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem is that Maya did not know about her Magatama's abilities, and only learned about them in T&T

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, I thought about that while making it, but there wasn’t exactly any other work around so since this is a what if scenario I just went with her having learned earlier. I give a little hint that Pearl had told her about it back in the village and she was relaying the explanation she was given for her to Phoenix.

  • @maxicheese4609
    @maxicheese4609 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good video, I wonder if you will do a remake to change Edgeworth psyche lock to black since they are use for repression memory or when someone is very dilusional.

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indeed, that is one thing I regret from this since I hadn’t gotten that far in Dual Destinies to really understand what they were at the time I made this. But thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed!

  • @williamsusanto8082
    @williamsusanto8082 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Technically speaking, Edgey’s Psyche-Locks should have been black.

  • @pikachupower0025
    @pikachupower0025 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Should’ve have the black psyche lock for Edgeworth

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Oof, yeah, I didn’t fully understand how black Psyche-Locks worked because I haven’t finish the Apollo Justice trilogy yet. So, in hindsight, it’s something that could be a point of improvement.

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Since its too early in the timeline, black psyche locks didn't exist yet.

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx Fair. Though since this is a “what if” scenario, it probably wouldn’t have been that big a deal to have included them. Psyche-Locks don’t exist this early in the time line in the first place, hence this video.

  • @redlavagaming5812
    @redlavagaming5812 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    W video

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it.

  • @LollipopWNoChainsaw
    @LollipopWNoChainsaw 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    0/10 edgeworth didn't say "psycholock"
    cap. 7/10 pretty good ig idk i already forgor my critiques ngl💀

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@LollipopWNoChainsaw Haha, fait. Thanks though, glad you liked it!

  • @SonicTheHedgehog-mh6uw
    @SonicTheHedgehog-mh6uw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It “let’s” you see when people are lying?
    Let’s = let us
    Lets = 3rd person conjugation of “to let”

    • @darkacadpresenceinblood
      @darkacadpresenceinblood 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the typo makes it even more canon-like lol (cough cough the miracle never happen)

  • @pika-critique95
    @pika-critique95 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Logically, Miles' locks would have been black

    • @mackenzie2462
      @mackenzie2462  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, unfortunately I hadn’t gotten that far in Dual Destinies yet, so I didn’t fully understand how they worked yet, so I decided to play it safe and keep them red.

  • @chiopercyval4315
    @chiopercyval4315 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TIP: Put the speed on 1.25

  • @Lou-yf1jo
    @Lou-yf1jo หลายเดือนก่อน

    wtf is that shit at the start?