even though it feels very out of place especially the second optional part I always play the fall hazard room experience thinking of it as part of the story because of how the first part of it is forced upon you. recently I watched a streamer place slide three and chose to skip the second optional part then it became very frustrating watching them play the rest of the game out knowing about certain features.
I think the implication is that Dr. M was taking the elevator up so that he could then cross over & change the security code himself, but didn't get the chance to because he was interrupted by the phone call. Explains both the little oddities, which he is too intelligent a character to let slide. Super excited for this! I know that the consensus is Sly 2 is the best, & I can't really disagree, but 3 is definitely my personal favorite.
Kaine Island may not have been planned to be fully explorable, however playing the earlier builds of the game it is possible to load into missions on the map that aren't included in the final game, like one similar to Murray's Ball Form challenge from China, where you're meant to use Ball Form to bounce up to the highest point of the map. That may explain the collision across the island.
This is awesome, can't wait for the concurrent series. On a separate note, it's a shame that the HD version spoils one of the new gang members by not getting the shadows correct
i remember going over a friend's place who had a PS2 when i was a kid and seeing Sly Cooper and that was one of the first moments i thought i might not be straight.
Really happy to see this. Been a Mario Sunshine fan for most of my life, and seeing your Sly 2 compilation being uploaded finally convinced me to play the game beginning to end so I can see your commentary on it. Your first KH video was also uploaded a few days after I started my first playthrough so all of your uploads have either lined up perfectly with what I was playing or inspired me to finally try some games out. Genuinely, thanks for making these!
Sly 3 was my first Sly game, so after being recommended the full Sly 2 breakdown a few days ago, I've been looking forward to the potential of this breakdown ever since. The forced tutorial is also less of an issue to me since I actually had use for it, but I do agree that it really doesn't need to exist after 1 and 2 introduced mechanics so organically, and even this game gives a great tutorial just prior.
You are not only covering my favorite game in the series. But my favorite game of all my time. I've played it for over 20 years now. And has only gotten better to me over the years. Thank you for doing these videos.
I like to think that the reason we get caught during the heist is us knocking off those Little Rock’s we step on while going across the ledge since it’s right before we’re caught. Like an attentive guard caught something we usually don’t think about. Also not sure if this is something people notice but right next to the vault is a pile of replica canes. So that comment sly makes to dr. M could be him noticing those.
5:55 i love this, you’re either a mega fan and understand this small and subtle reference to the second game like me Or you watched the sly 2 episode 5 breakdown also like me
The biggest thing that could've saved the hazard room was if they let the player essentially make their own jungle gym to test themselves in. Imagine once you completed all the trials, a new set of levers spawned, letting the player drop different kinds of box structures and platforms, add guards, change characters, etc.
I replayed the first mission so many times as a kid. Well, every mission. Found it cool how M had piles of Cooper cane replicas next to the vault door. I love the pause you had between the sly videos. I got sly 3 as a christmas present so the timing just couldn't be any better.
12:47, When it's mentioned that the Theivous Racconus in this scene is the same as the one in the start up screen for the game, it is true that the vault illustration is replaced by Sucker punches logo, but what's ALSO true is that the Cane illustration in the top left page, is also Rotated 90 degrees Counter clockwise with the addition of Sly, Murray and Bentley's "icons" being "attached" to the cane :)
I just finished the entire sly 2 playlist and after this video plan to go over the sly 1 playlist. So excited to learn more about my favorite video game franchise from a master video maker like yourself
Sly 3 was my first intro to the series and it is STILL my absolute favorite of the bunch, thank you for giving it a positive review overall and can’t wait for next video ❤🦝
You really do need way more attention than how much you are getting right now. The dedication i see in these videos are way beyond the threshold of your views. Mad under-rated
I love your format, clear, consice and truly entertaining, I have even learned a few things! As a French viewer, I just want to add that in the translation, Dr. M never mentions the code (he talks about it but he doesn't say 1-2-3) which always left me wandering how they got the code in the first place. Another funny translation is Agent Deep Six is called Nemo (because the expression translates to 20k instead of 6k if i remember correctly)
Very excited to see this! One a note about the collision and the lasers dealing damage, while I'm certain there were different versions of the island during development (it's inevitable), I think the reason the objects behave the way they do has to do with the engine. From what I can tell, each object is hard coded to behave a certain way regardless of where it's placed in the level to simplify coding (that is, all spires are programmed to be jumped on even if they're placed OOB as decoration; this makes it so a programmer doesn't have to scrape an entire level to make sure all of the pertinent spires/ropes/ledges/etc are activated). The island looks to be mostly made from objects rather than a terrain map, so those objects probably just had their collision hard coded even when they're only being used as set dressing.
Some things about sly 3 that i think could be fun to mention when you get to later parts of this: 1. All the paintings you look for hidden numbers in through the game are concept art depicting locations from earlier sly games like the india levels and prague. 2. The grapple cam can enter every safehouse if you press it up against the windows and spam the X button, you can even see it if you go back inside. 3. You can quick kill General Tsao by using the knockout dive and knocking him into a wall then quickly press triangle, square when close enough to where he lands. 4. You can kill Carmelita in the levels she roams around in by shrinking her and blowing her up. She will return to normal size and you can move her using more bombs. (I like to leave her outside the safe house like a doormat.) 5. Characters in the game appear bigger the further away they are. This is most noticable when you're walking into Tsao's castle in the photography mission as sly.
Growing up and playing these games on PS2 - PS4 when I was a kid, still love them at 25yrs old now. Hoping for an eventual PC release so that I can replay them! Thanks for bringing these titles back. Love the videos
As a speedrunner of the sly trilogy and a lover of everything sly I can't believe this is happening so fast. The sly 2 one was my favorite series, and I'm so excited to see this one too
Fun fact, Sly 3 was actually the 1st Sly game I started with. It was a trip when I played the other games in backwards order and realized about the Clue Bottles since Sly 3...doesnt have any See, back when Insomniac, Naughty Dog and Sucker Punch were all adjacent to each one another, Up your Arsenal, Jak 3 and Sly 3 were literally all made and developed in under a years time and man replaying the games you can see the crunch time and how after these games released it became clear that Naughty Dog and Insomniac were going to be the powerhouses for Sony going forward.
Sly 3 was the second game I ever purchased myself for the PS2, never touched the series before. Found Sly 2 & 1 later on at my local used game store, and played the series backwards. (My first purchase was Lego Star Wars)
I’d like to say upon finishing the video that i loved learning somehow a lot about one of my favorite video games of all time, and am thankful you are starting to cover the 3rd in the trilogy. I always found it funny the no hand holding followed by a painfully long tutorial. Also surprised by the ghost of yotei mention 😂 i’ll be subscribing to your patreon due to my impatience to see the next to come. Thank you again!
IM ABSOLUTELY EXCITED I SCREAMED WHEN I SAW THIS POP UP OMFG. I gtb to the 6hr Sly vid. Your vids helped me lately, haven't been well mentally❤FOREVER FAN😊
7:48 It always looked to me as if Richards actually looks up and notices Sly on top of the elevator in the moments before he dies, but he can't get the words out to warn Dr. M. He even appears to point at Sly as he takes his final breath.
A little surprised you didn't bring up the alternate intro that was shown before the game was released - what was replaced by the scene where Sly flashes back to the story so far as he's squished by the huge chimera. It's been a good, god, 20 years since I saw it on IGN or something but it was Sly lying on a beach looking like he'd survived a plane crash of some sort, panting and a little singed. While he's lying there, he THEN starts talking about what led him to that point. Not sure what the original plan was here from Sucker Punch but I've never forgotten it.
Oh man, I was fully expected and ready to wait for the KH1 Breakdowns to be done before this. What a pleasant surprise. Sly 3 is definitely my favorite of the trilogy, so this is gonna be a blast. It's funny to think that this series could actually end before the KH1 one depending on video releases given how much shorter it is.
I feel like I’m the only sly fan that likes the hazard room. I love the dialogue. Especially Murray’s. “Ah the old Rock to the head routine!” “Circle Square Aint Hardly fair!” “He’s asking, begging me to rob him!”
I love the way you talk about the sly trilogy, waiting for more episodes on sly 3. Have you thought of talking about teh jak and daxter series? If you played them of course Very good content, congrats :)
I think Square Enix is now obsessed with transitioning from gameplay to cutscene and vice versa seamlessly now, which arguably started with Final Fantasy VII Remake and Kingdom Hearts III. I geeked out when I first noticed this especially now that the gameplay graphics are good enough to be special cutscene graphics. So, no more videos playing excluding endings and teasers. Final Fantasy XVI really goes crazy with bouncing between them.
The good thing about doing this series now is that on the 10th, the Ps4 and Ps5 remaster is coming out. Maybe most of the stinky Sanzaru porting will be fixed up in it
Love ya first video of sly 3. And excited for more however, I’m surprised you haven’t talked about the alternative opening cutscene is the one where instead of a giant monster? Sly is found on the beach damage looking like he got zap breathing slowly like to see your thoughts of what ya think Originally happened
i never played the ps3 collection, both because i already had the ps2 games on hand and i heard many horror story about it... so 21:50 made my jaw DROP sanzaru really never gave a shit about this series huh,,
the way i yelled when i saw this notification, ive watched the entire sly 2 deep dive like 3 times already and i was hoping youd cover 3, im hype asf
Yesssssssssss
Amazing bro, I randomly discovered the sly 2 breakdown only a week ago and finished it yesterday. Mega coincidence that this video dropped today
even though it feels very out of place especially the second optional part I always play the fall hazard room experience thinking of it as part of the story because of how the first part of it is forced upon you. recently I watched a streamer place slide three and chose to skip the second optional part then it became very frustrating watching them play the rest of the game out knowing about certain features.
I CANNOT wait for the 6 hour video on the whole game like with your Sly 2 compilation
I think the implication is that Dr. M was taking the elevator up so that he could then cross over & change the security code himself, but didn't get the chance to because he was interrupted by the phone call. Explains both the little oddities, which he is too intelligent a character to let slide.
Super excited for this! I know that the consensus is Sly 2 is the best, & I can't really disagree, but 3 is definitely my personal favorite.
I just thought of that myself. Nice catch.
Concurrent series?! The benevolence is astounding. Truly magnanimous.
Kaine Island may not have been planned to be fully explorable, however playing the earlier builds of the game it is possible to load into missions on the map that aren't included in the final game, like one similar to Murray's Ball Form challenge from China, where you're meant to use Ball Form to bounce up to the highest point of the map. That may explain the collision across the island.
Good to have you back for some more Sly, king
Two series at once!? let's go!
This is awesome, can't wait for the concurrent series. On a separate note, it's a shame that the HD version spoils one of the new gang members by not getting the shadows correct
For years, even now, I thought the flashback silhouette was of Dr.M shooting Sly's dad. I never considered that it was someone grabbing him
i remember going over a friend's place who had a PS2 when i was a kid and seeing Sly Cooper and that was one of the first moments i thought i might not be straight.
Pretty sure what that actually meant was you discovering that you were a furry lol 😂
@felixthecat5333 as a kid around the 2000's, the homosexuality was more tangible and troubling haha.
@@SurlyUJest at that point why not both? lol 😂
@@felixthecat5333 I have good news
I'm surprised Carmelita didn't awaken anything in me when I was a kid. I didn't think anything of it at that age. But looking back on it now, I get it
NO FUCKING WAY! TWO?! LET'S GO, THE GOAT KEEPS BRINGING THE PEAK
My favorite sly game. This series is gonna be magnificent.
Really happy to see this. Been a Mario Sunshine fan for most of my life, and seeing your Sly 2 compilation being uploaded finally convinced me to play the game beginning to end so I can see your commentary on it. Your first KH video was also uploaded a few days after I started my first playthrough so all of your uploads have either lined up perfectly with what I was playing or inspired me to finally try some games out. Genuinely, thanks for making these!
Sly 3 was my first Sly game, so after being recommended the full Sly 2 breakdown a few days ago, I've been looking forward to the potential of this breakdown ever since.
The forced tutorial is also less of an issue to me since I actually had use for it, but I do agree that it really doesn't need to exist after 1 and 2 introduced mechanics so organically, and even this game gives a great tutorial just prior.
I have been waiting for this series, I saw a retrospective on sly 3 by someone else so I am very keen to see your retrospective on this
You are not only covering my favorite game in the series. But my favorite game of all my time. I've played it for over 20 years now. And has only gotten better to me over the years. Thank you for doing these videos.
2:22 "Why did youtube add that pink highlight to the video progress bar?" - humanity may never understand the answer to this question.
I like to think that the reason we get caught during the heist is us knocking off those Little Rock’s we step on while going across the ledge since it’s right before we’re caught. Like an attentive guard caught something we usually don’t think about.
Also not sure if this is something people notice but right next to the vault is a pile of replica canes. So that comment sly makes to dr. M could be him noticing those.
I don’t even care about Sly Cooper but if I get to hear your voice I’ll watch anything. You’re my new favorite TH-camr
5:55 i love this, you’re either a mega fan and understand this small and subtle reference to the second game like me
Or you watched the sly 2 episode 5 breakdown also like me
The biggest thing that could've saved the hazard room was if they let the player essentially make their own jungle gym to test themselves in. Imagine once you completed all the trials, a new set of levers spawned, letting the player drop different kinds of box structures and platforms, add guards, change characters, etc.
I replayed the first mission so many times as a kid. Well, every mission. Found it cool how M had piles of Cooper cane replicas next to the vault door.
I love the pause you had between the sly videos. I got sly 3 as a christmas present so the timing just couldn't be any better.
12:47, When it's mentioned that the Theivous Racconus in this scene is the same as the one in the start up screen for the game, it is true that the vault illustration is replaced by Sucker punches logo, but what's ALSO true is that the Cane illustration in the top left page, is also Rotated 90 degrees Counter clockwise with the addition of Sly, Murray and Bentley's "icons" being "attached" to the cane :)
heck yeah sly 3 breakdown let's go
AND WE CHEERED
I just finished the entire sly 2 playlist and after this video plan to go over the sly 1 playlist. So excited to learn more about my favorite video game franchise from a master video maker like yourself
Sly 3 was my first intro to the series and it is STILL my absolute favorite of the bunch, thank you for giving it a positive review overall and can’t wait for next video ❤🦝
I literally just finished the Sly 2 Breakdown after finding your channel and I’m super excited for this!
You really do need way more attention than how much you are getting right now. The dedication i see in these videos are way beyond the threshold of your views. Mad under-rated
I love your format, clear, consice and truly entertaining, I have even learned a few things! As a French viewer, I just want to add that in the translation, Dr. M never mentions the code (he talks about it but he doesn't say 1-2-3) which always left me wandering how they got the code in the first place. Another funny translation is Agent Deep Six is called Nemo (because the expression translates to 20k instead of 6k if i remember correctly)
Im so down. Perfect time for sly 3 coming to ps5. Id be so here for a sly 1 retrospective
Very excited to see this!
One a note about the collision and the lasers dealing damage, while I'm certain there were different versions of the island during development (it's inevitable), I think the reason the objects behave the way they do has to do with the engine. From what I can tell, each object is hard coded to behave a certain way regardless of where it's placed in the level to simplify coding (that is, all spires are programmed to be jumped on even if they're placed OOB as decoration; this makes it so a programmer doesn't have to scrape an entire level to make sure all of the pertinent spires/ropes/ledges/etc are activated). The island looks to be mostly made from objects rather than a terrain map, so those objects probably just had their collision hard coded even when they're only being used as set dressing.
I just found my new favourite TH-cam-Channel.
YEAAAAAAAAHHH SLY 3 LETS GOOO
Really cant thank you enough for these videos. Some of the best I've ever seen, consistently too. Mad underrated!!
Some things about sly 3 that i think could be fun to mention when you get to later parts of this:
1. All the paintings you look for hidden numbers in through the game are concept art depicting locations from earlier sly games like the india levels and prague.
2. The grapple cam can enter every safehouse if you press it up against the windows and spam the X button, you can even see it if you go back inside.
3. You can quick kill General Tsao by using the knockout dive and knocking him into a wall then quickly press triangle, square when close enough to where he lands.
4. You can kill Carmelita in the levels she roams around in by shrinking her and blowing her up. She will return to normal size and you can move her using more bombs. (I like to leave her outside the safe house like a doormat.)
5. Characters in the game appear bigger the further away they are. This is most noticable when you're walking into Tsao's castle in the photography mission as sly.
Growing up and playing these games on PS2 - PS4 when I was a kid, still love them at 25yrs old now. Hoping for an eventual PC release so that I can replay them!
Thanks for bringing these titles back. Love the videos
I watched your deep dive on sly 2, first video the whole 2 hours. watched even at work. thank you for the content. it made my day
I just watched the Sly 2 complete video and I'm so glad this is starting!
As a speedrunner of the sly trilogy and a lover of everything sly I can't believe this is happening so fast. The sly 2 one was my favorite series, and I'm so excited to see this one too
Its nice to watch this series and other Sly videos on here while preparing to replay 2 and 3 on both PS4 and PS5 in a few days hehe
Fun fact, Sly 3 was actually the 1st Sly game I started with. It was a trip when I played the other games in backwards order and realized about the Clue Bottles since Sly 3...doesnt have any
See, back when Insomniac, Naughty Dog and Sucker Punch were all adjacent to each one another, Up your Arsenal, Jak 3 and Sly 3 were literally all made and developed in under a years time and man replaying the games you can see the crunch time and how after these games released it became clear that Naughty Dog and Insomniac were going to be the powerhouses for Sony going forward.
Sly 3 was the second game I ever purchased myself for the PS2, never touched the series before. Found Sly 2 & 1 later on at my local used game store, and played the series backwards. (My first purchase was Lego Star Wars)
YAYYY I've been looking forward to this!!!
I’d like to say upon finishing the video that i loved learning somehow a lot about one of my favorite video games of all time, and am thankful you are starting to cover the 3rd in the trilogy. I always found it funny the no hand holding followed by a painfully long tutorial. Also surprised by the ghost of yotei mention 😂 i’ll be subscribing to your patreon due to my impatience to see the next to come. Thank you again!
IM ABSOLUTELY EXCITED I SCREAMED WHEN I SAW THIS POP UP OMFG. I gtb to the 6hr Sly vid. Your vids helped me lately, haven't been well mentally❤FOREVER FAN😊
The Comics were also novelized into a short novel called To Catch a Thief.
Extra hype since Sly 2 and 3 are coming to ps5 lets goo
love this show! Cant wait for the secrets of sly 3 also, you did such a good job.
just playing through sly 3 now
7:48 It always looked to me as if Richards actually looks up and notices Sly on top of the elevator in the moments before he dies, but he can't get the words out to warn Dr. M. He even appears to point at Sly as he takes his final breath.
Are you gonna do a Sly 1 breakdown at some point after this one?
Hmm i dont remember the Sly Cooper world in kingdom hearts.
But then again it would not be the weirdest thing in the series.
A little surprised you didn't bring up the alternate intro that was shown before the game was released - what was replaced by the scene where Sly flashes back to the story so far as he's squished by the huge chimera. It's been a good, god, 20 years since I saw it on IGN or something but it was Sly lying on a beach looking like he'd survived a plane crash of some sort, panting and a little singed. While he's lying there, he THEN starts talking about what led him to that point. Not sure what the original plan was here from Sucker Punch but I've never forgotten it.
with band of thieves and honor among thieves coming out in 2 to 3 days depending on your region, this was the perfect video!!!!
Just seeing this game. The sounds, effects, and all the details. I really want to play it again lol.
Oh man, I was fully expected and ready to wait for the KH1 Breakdowns to be done before this. What a pleasant surprise.
Sly 3 is definitely my favorite of the trilogy, so this is gonna be a blast.
It's funny to think that this series could actually end before the KH1 one depending on video releases given how much shorter it is.
Lowkey one of my favourite parts of this game is the fact that Doctor M is voiced by Rick May(RIP) who also voices the Soldier in Team Fortress 2
Now this series is going to be a christmas treat!
Sly 3 is actually the only game I never got to play, so getting to experience it through this will be very exciting to me!
I feel like I’m the only sly fan that likes the hazard room.
I love the dialogue. Especially Murray’s. “Ah the old Rock to the head routine!” “Circle Square Aint Hardly fair!” “He’s asking, begging me to rob him!”
23:30 "From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel..."
I literally just finished the sly 1 & 2 series
CHRISTMAS CAME EARLY
2:40 funny enough, Sly 3 was my first Sly game I played when I was a kid, so I had to hear Bentley say the line since I didn't know what to do
Ayo! I love your stuff and I love Sly Cooper! Great vid!
I. WANT. MORE. THIS IS TOO GREAT I CANT EVEN. ONE MORE ON PATREON IS NOT ENOUGH no but seriously what an amazing video, cant wait for the rest.
Honey wake up, Sly 3 breakdown
So excited for this series!
I love the way you talk about the sly trilogy, waiting for more episodes on sly 3.
Have you thought of talking about teh jak and daxter series? If you played them of course
Very good content, congrats :)
LETSSSSSS GOOOOOO. LOVED LOVED LOVED your sly 2 6 hour vid bro
You have no idea how excited I was to see this notification.
Let's go...
I’ve been waiting for this series!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I'm so excited!! Thank you!!
JUST WHAT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR BRO LETS GOOOO
I'm so excited!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is my favorite series
Was not expecting Sly 3 until after Kingdom Hearts was done, but holy shot TWO cakes! So happy to see Sly again for his last PS2 adventure.
2:28 FINALLY SOMEONE MENTIONS IT
The iron tech 250 reference. This dude has deep sly knowledge
Sly 3 was my point of entry to the series as a non english speaker kid. I'll always look at this game in a special way :)
Sly 3 remaster on ps3 has this exclusive behind the scenes video in bonus video section. It's unlocked after beating the game.
I think Square Enix is now obsessed with transitioning from gameplay to cutscene and vice versa seamlessly now, which arguably started with Final Fantasy VII Remake and Kingdom Hearts III. I geeked out when I first noticed this especially now that the gameplay graphics are good enough to be special cutscene graphics. So, no more videos playing excluding endings and teasers. Final Fantasy XVI really goes crazy with bouncing between them.
Are we multitasking kh and sly? Hell yeah
The golden bird figure in front of the car in Cooper vault might be Maltese Falcon. I always thought the ship in the vault was a Viking ship
At least there is an ending here unlike that time travel one, which apparently they had no intention in making a sequel to that one
I thought I'd have to wait for after KH for this. But this is fine for both honestly.!
AHHHHHH ITS HERE!!!!!
The good thing about doing this series now is that on the 10th, the Ps4 and Ps5 remaster is coming out. Maybe most of the stinky Sanzaru porting will be fixed up in it
THE WAY I SCREAMED WHEN THIS VIDEO POPPED UP LETS GOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
I just replayed this game for the first time in years, ik Sly 2 is the best in the series but Sly 3 is my favorite
The legend returns!!
We're so back, baby!
Love ya first video of sly 3. And excited for more however, I’m surprised you haven’t talked about the alternative opening cutscene is the one where instead of a giant monster? Sly is found on the beach damage looking like he got zap breathing slowly like to see your thoughts of what ya think Originally happened
When I was younger I always thought Dr. M had a toaster on his head with toast popping out!😂
i never played the ps3 collection, both because i already had the ps2 games on hand and i heard many horror story about it... so 21:50 made my jaw DROP
sanzaru really never gave a shit about this series huh,,
Man.. im the man i am today becouse of these games. Not to mention how good the dub for finnish was. ❤
Sly 3, yeah! LET’S GO!
*Good news! Sly 2 & 3 will be on Playstation 4 & 5 really soon.*
I highly appreciate the Sequelitis reference
also just wanted to mention the VA for doctor M is the same VA as TF2 soldier
I’m so hype!!!!!!
OH
"Water leaking into the lab"
Because of "Agent Deep-Six"
That never clicked before now