i cant pretend ive ever noticed these issues in the show. nine club to me comes across as just a group of dudes that like skating and hearing stories about it from guests. that alone has been enough interest from me to watch about 100 episodes. repetitive? sure... but the guests are interesting enough. the point about how they dont even make great money off it reinforces this feel.
@@mattmattga there's several skate podcasts already, Nine Club is just the "most known" one. I'm personally a big fan of "The Bunt", they do a great job while also being able to talk some shit and give unfiltered opinions and mess around a lot
People are trying to make the show what they want it to be, it is not, is what Chris and the crew want it to be. Is a show about people talking to other people they liked or find interesting, with their own vibe. If you want it to be challenging or controversial you are drinking milk expecting that it tastes like orange juice.
They contradict themselves often by agreeing to the opposite side of the opinion with other skaters. Hella people just hate like crazy in the comments so they try to avoid any type of hate possible lol...
@@nancypelosi480 I agree, the older episodes felt more organic and natural. I've been watching/listening to the nine club since 2017 and it's pretty easy to see what I'm talking about when you've been tuning in long enough
but even just bros should have an opinion. Like, I can watch every episode and I wouldn't know anymore about the panelists than I did before. It's fake.
This has been my only criticism of the show over the years. They are all so scared of saying something that may be taken the wrong way or deemed controversial so they just agree with everything.
At first they would joke around and bust balls but that only lasted a short while.. Jimmy Fallon no longer needs to press a button, Chris has forgotten what sarcasm is. It had so much potential
Its a damn disney show pretty much. Half the time Crob just looks like he's so disinterested in his guests too. I can think of like at least 20 skaters who would be more interesting and better hosts.
I would rather the nine club keep its formula opposed to getting views for people that have nothing to do with skateboarding. It’s a skateboarding podcast, not everything is about generating more views and monetary gain to appeal to an audience not tied to a podcast about skateboarding.
I love their talks with skaters and industry people. Jamie Thomas, Mike Vallely, Jason Lee, and Jacob Rosenberg are standouts to me. Sometimes you want to watch something non toxic that isnt centered on ridiculous internet drama.
I didn't perceive that as a serious critique, but more of a nod to the Gifted Hater, who like Dumb Data, is creating more interesting skateboard content in 2022 than the big name podcasts like Nine Club.
Gifted Hater comments on Elijah Berle for taking two weeks to respond to Austyn Gillette, and Dumb Data comments on how two weeks have passed since he responded to Gifted Hater.
The Nine Club is literally just friends interviewing friends though. I don't know why anyone would expect them to not be nice. They've skated with damn near everyone they interviewed
Love the 9 club. They sit back, listen and let the person tell things from their point of view or simply just spew their opinion. Which in itself starts conversation. Everything doesn’t needs to be debated or intellectual. They literally just go with the flow. There are place’s and channels dedicated to that type of shit. Live and let live. ✌️
Agreed. I actually respect them for their approach. The mission statement of their podcast more or less is to “celebrate skateboarding .” and this is exactly what they do. Controversy is like a cheap sugar high, but if that’s what you want there are 1 million other places to get that. I hope they just keep doing what they’ve been doing
My dude dumbdata putting some actual content with substance out. Love this channel and the direction you’re steering into. Filling a void for sure, please keep up the good work.
substance? The nine club had a guest on. That some of you did not like. So dumbdata spends probably DAYS researching into the guest and then pinning that stuff on the nine club? Lol pathetic substance. Don't like a guest? Dont fuckn watch the episode you quack.
listen, I love the nine club but Crobs interviewing skills need some work. I'm not sure if he get disinterested or it's a little social anxiety but it seems like if the guest is not a natural extrovert the conversation gets derailed and even a little cringe. I'm only saying this out of love, I want NC to thrive.
Dude you guys need to chill seriously. The nine club is a great episode wit 500+ episodes and you guys are hating because of 2 episodes.. I am a huge fan of these guys because of them I was able to learn so much about my favorite skaters, see how they act and speak, all the great behind the scene storys and much more.. Thank you nine club for that!!!! You guys should all be more thankful for what you have and get and not just hate because you can in the internet!!!! thank you hope you all have a great day
As long as I can learn more about my favourite skaters I’m happy. I agree Crob should do a bit of research though, that’s how you get deeper interviews. Good video Dumb Data.
I didn’t even know who Gary V was. I usually don’t check out Nine Club episodes unless I know who the guest is. These capitalism bro personalities are already toxic in skating (see Dyrdek) they really don’t need to be bringing in more douchebags
Honestly a lot of dumb ass data in this video. Congrats on staying true to your name. I like the idea of spreading positivity within skateboarding. One of the biggest things you must realize is that as you get older, skateboarding begins to be less about being critical about others’ skating styles and more about celebrating a common interest amongst everyone in this beautiful community. Not every page has to talk shit. There are pages that do it really well and others that do not feel the need to do so.
It’s not about skaters styles, it’s about who they are as a human being. If u got a shit personality, fake as shit, rude, condescending all that lame wack energy we can get critical about. Keep it sturddddy💪🏽😂
The 9 club never claimed to be investigative reporters. They give famous skateboarders/industry folk (mostly) a place to share their story. It may be accurate or inaccurate, but it's specifically NOT a confrontational integration and I hope it stays that way.
They don’t need to be “investigative reporters” if they’re just normal folks having a conversation, but they’re actively giving a platform to people who are spreading potentially dangerous or hurtful misinformation on THEIR show. At some point they need to take accountability and be able to stand up to a guest who’s flagrantly using their platform to sell bullshit or rewrite a dark past. Also, dumbdata is just giving suggestions here based off of *data* as to how they can survive the always shifting attention span of a viewing audience. I get that you like the nine club for what it is and has been, but there’s no denying it’s gotten stale and is borderline pandering to bullshit in order to remain afloat.
@@mikequinlivan8842 she said in this interview there is a scientific difference between men and women and it’s fact and she would land things more easily if she were a male. Then when a female called out a trans female skater for winning a female contest, she laid into the other woman and told her she needs to change her attitude and rethink being in skating. She went the total different direction and is instead putting women down for having a disadvantage in a woman’s contest.
I feel like ever since Gifted Hater pointed out how positive they are about everything, more people have started hating on The Nine Club. The podcast is pretty good and they don’t have to be critics or anything, they’re just chilling
I like the nine club, i have fun whenever i see it.... Maybe you prefer the agressive ironic kind of tv shows, then why you watch the nine club? , you seem to know a lot of this program....
They talk about older skateboarding. Lots of 90s stuff. Skateboarding was better then, it's horrible now. All about, look at me, look at my tricks I landed, that took months. Think of this, we would go skateboarding for months, years, without filming a thing. At a time when history in skateboarding was happening, we still weren't thinking of self promotion. It was always about raw progressive skateboarding.
Professional skateboarding has been about self promotion and showing off the new tricks you landed since it first became pupular (probably before your time). Casual skating hasn't changed at all and you're just stuck in the past. Go with the times old man. Embrace the future
I would love to get with the times but I destroyed 3 discs in my back age 30. This was 15 years ago, and is probably why I am bitter and twisted lol. I was devastated, I loved it, could hold my own down skatepark and would defo still be skating now. I have had a roll coz my daughter is getting into skating. But it's painful and kills me when trying even basic shit. Hey ho, I'm more pragmatic these days coz I had a good run (no pun) and grew up in England with skaters who went on to be big names, and skated with some of the best skaters you could name from 90s. The real innovative generation
This is the problem with Skate Culture I noticed growing. It has this "hippy" and "peace and love" attitude. That we are all bros, nothing is wrong, he's sick, she's sick, he's rad, she's rad, we are all rad. Skateboarding is about expression and everything is good blah, blah, blah. This is what is called Toxic Positivity. That everything is good and nothing is wrong so you just end up agreeing with everything. The problem is when that happens, there is no sense of conviction. Nothing is challenged. And when nothing is challenged, you don't grow. Which is funny, because skateboarding is all about challenges and that helps you grow. It's a brutal activity. Yet, it has this stoner hippy culture that doesn't want to challenge anything. Which I don't blame them, most pro skaters never finished high school so they don't have that capability of deep thought. Of challenging the industry and arising different challenging questions. This niceness needs to stop and be more objective on things. It's good sometimes but if that's all you do, you're boring. You're the "nice guy." Who wants that?
Weird, that's not at all what I experienced in the late 90s on, I was the odd one out cause I wished more girls would skate. Now I'm the odd one out cause I think someone going pro cause they can switch flip a 3 stair and have a vagina is ridiculous or that a trans person is likely going to have an advantage competing against natural women.. You either have to be one extreme or the other to have a community these days EDIT: misread the beginning n thought it said growing up.
Another point is that skate moss prick, reposted some old Facebook post of hers complaining about women being judged at skateparks because of what they wear.. She goes to a skatepark looking like it's a runway show, teenage boys look at the obvious fish out of water and she has a hissy fit that teenage boys think the attractive "model" is an odd site at the skatepark.. Meanwhile as a dude I constantly got crapped on for what I wore at the park.. And anywhere else cause torn up skate punk isn't what many people wanna see.. I wonder what that bitch would post if she dealt with all the randoms screaming that they hoped I broke my arm or leg when jumping down a set or people trying to knock me off my board.. Or the multiple times people threatened to murder me.. Skaters were always 50% pussies but now instead of trying to fight you cause you didn't think they actually tre flipped an 8 when they can't even throw the flip properly, they're whining on twitter..
I have a feeling GaryV is on downfall and now is going anywhere that he think he still didnt scam anyone. anyone who thinks I am bsing plz explain me how I am wrong, I am open to that, but plz dont come with empty msg just saying how gary v. is great
They *lost* me with the Gary Vee episode, I just think its just so fucked Btw Dumb Data, you're fucking KILLING IT right now, I love all your content including these thinkpieces because your analysis is always so characteristically rigorous
that episode isnt for everyone i didnt like it either so i didnt watch about 40 mins in i stopped and ill just wait tell the next guest comes out im still waiting for koston penney and other dudes i bet when they get some guys like that on you'll be happy ?
For real, while there is a lot of hustle and grind needed to get good on a board, Gary Vee's mentality is just dogshit bad and doesn't match anything skaters are about.
@@stratfender89 well that's odd some people in the comments of the episode where happy to see that episode and I bet they probably skateboard I'm personally not a fan of him after learning what he's about so I stopped watching and just waiting for next week's episode
I'm sure there are. I'm just saying from all the skaters I've rode with throughout the years, I haven't met any who have taken on the Gary Vee mindset.
You’re complaining that they aren’t critical enough and aren’t talking shit on enough things, when that’s not what their show is about? That’s like critiquing a rom-com on the fact there aren’t enough super-hero fight scenes in it. Don’t like it don’t watch it lmfao Edit: also 23:15 is an awful take, what’s the point
@@ceezus_ bro I don't watch. Stopped watching 9 club a long time ago for the exact reasons dumb data points out. And entitlement?!? Its not about entitlement by the viewer, its about having a better podcast (for the viewer)
@@ceezus_ and if you think skateboarding is all the same culutre you're tripping. Like comparing top 40 pop and Iowan garage rock. Both music but everything surrounding them is different
I hope the Nine Club keeps doing this for the core skateboard fans instead of the growth of the podcast. Growth means death of what it was meant to be. Skateboarding is a lifestyle not a marketing growth opportunity.
Agreed, the 9 has a lane and they know it. This is a long term project and I believe people are acknowledging them and their lane. He shows up nervous so just talked about what he can talk about… their craft. I did not listen all the way through once I found out Gary didn’t skate, but said streetwear hella. Still the acknowledgment is positive.
but "lifestyle" & "marketing growth opportunity" are pretty synonymous at this point in the industry. just look at all the clothing, branding/corporate sponsorships, contests, etc... & the olympics, for fucks sake! skateboarding is all about growth, for better or for worse. if it wasn't everyone would still be doing slalom, downhill & wheelies & mimicking surfer styles & fashion. growth is inherent in all things. the 9 Club can't please everybody. goes the same for bands that don't continue to make the same record again & again, thus pissing off part of their fanbase that want them to keep doing the same thing they fell in love with them over. i do agree that some interviews could benefit from Rob & crew digging deeper or changing their line of questioning, but people are gonna complain whether they keep it formulaic or try branching out. sure, i don't enjoy every episode, but if they ended the podcast i'd be bummed. i feel like MOST people have at least a few interesting things to say. (aside from gary vee) at the end of the day , i watch the episodes i think i'll be interested in the most & usually i enjoy at least part of them.
@@cygmusmandulis7533 that's it. you enjoy more if it pokes your interest, maintains a certain level of curiosity, relevant to consume content. for us, there are tons of intellectuals debacle podcasts, and nine club are one of podcasts that we got to sit down and just chill romanticizing about how fun skateboarding is.
I love the nine club, they did drop the ball on the Gator thing but the guys seem to have little knowledge about skateboarding prior to the 1990's. They just seem like a great bunch of guys that want to talk and love skateboarding. Even with the best of intentions it's almost impossible to not have a few fuck ups considering the staggering amount of content they have put out.
How did they drop the ball though? They had someone on that talked about an incident that happened when they were just little kids. Are they expected to have known all the ins and outs of Gator's murder before having Mark Oblow on the show? There's this big push on the Internet too get angry at every host who just lets the guest talk and I think that's ridiculous. The person gets to see what they say, and then get called out on it on social media if people think they are full of it. That's a perfect system. It's not a bug, it's a feature. Podcast hosts are not supposed to play judge jury and executioner because they aren't always experts in the particulars of the subject. That's why they have guests.
@@jasondashney they dropped the ball by having no knowledge on this. There is a great documentary called the rise and fall of gator about it. I love the show and the guys seem so cool but I have noticed that they have put in little work in learning about skateboarding from before they're era. The gator thing is so well known in skateboarding that I think it's why people got so upset
@@DanHovington You're angry at them for lacking intimate historical knowledge about someone who wasn't even on the show? That's a pretty high standard. Everyone knew the Gator thing happened but not everyone should be expected to know the details of the case, especially when it happened when they were little kids. Dude, these guys aren't even clear about which videos they were personally in, let alone what Gator did decades ago. Chris will ask "Was Questionable before Virtual Reality" and I'm like yeah, the video your personal friends starred in. Yes, yes it was. If they get confused about that, you gotta cut them some slack. Cheers.
@@jasondashney Not angry at all, I pointed out the fact that these guys seem to have very little knowledge about skateboarding prior to mid 90's skateboarding. I do wish they would have more interest in skateboarding history prior to that period. I still love the show and think that they all seem like great guys that I would love to hang out with
@@DanHovington history just doesn't seem to be a thing in skateboarding. I live in a Vancouver suburb and I was telling a skateboarder that Mike Hastie lives right near him and he's like "Who?". This kid is in his 20's and started skateboarding when Mike was still pro for Darkstar and the town they live in is very small. Kids don't even know about their own communities history let alone the larger picture. The number of kids these days that have never heard of Jeremy Wray blows my mind, never mind Gator haha.
Honestly the Mark Oblow thing was way worse than the Gary V interview. They should have stopped that idiot dead in his tracks and told him to take a fucking hike. The shit gator did to that poor girl is disgusting and he should remain in jail for the rest of his life. The Gary V thing I just didn't watch. Nothing against them for it though. Can't satisfy everyone with every episode.
Unfortunately we live in a time where the very same people who watch & listen to content are just waiting for those very same content creator's to fail! The Nine Club has literally produced week's worth of great entertainment and knowledge for the skating community from around the world, but just one 5 minute segment from a misinformed guest is enough to dismiss all that other great content and call for the cancellation of something they actually enjoyed a week before. It's a shollow unhealthy world we live in atm, and I honestly feel sorry for anybody who puts themselves out there and tries to entertain & inform people.
Chill dude. I don’t see anybody calling for cancellation. There’s nothing wrong with criticism. Yea it’s “free” content, but it’s made for an audience who generate views which generates income. It’s in the best interest of the show to at least to some degree take it into consideration. Obviously there’ll be extreme cases of people being idiots but the vast majority is just calling them out on a misstep.
Exactly, to many people lost in their ironic egos pretending these fallouts are even vaguely a positive thing. Society is decaying in the opposite way as presented.
I think everyone should chill and not jump on the hate-train. The Nine Club has so many good interviews with a lot of pro's we all admire. And basically 50% of this video is about Gary Vee and partially Mark Oblow (F*ck you m8). So to immediately label it as "Everything goes wrong" is wrong imo. Give the dudes who spread love so much some love back. Nine Club is dope
This video doesn't label it as "Everything goes wrong" at all. Try reading EVERY word in a sentence and you'll understand what the actual subject matter is.
@@juli7xxxxx argh.. I have to admit that halfway of my argument I focussed more on the latter part of the sentence. You're right to correct that. A case study of when not agreeing goes right
There’s enough depressing stuff in the world, it’s nice to listen to a group of guys always speaking positively and humbly about what they love. They don’t need to start arguments with guests. One could equally criticise you for making a video about a nothing controversy for the sake of getting clicks. How about take a lesson from them and spend more time trying to do something positive with your time.
If you don't like it don't watch? So what they not in the game of throwing stones like some others. Why would they invite someone on the show and roast them? The Gary V ep, if you're open minded a little could be used for skaters to learn to use social media better to grow. Alot of skaters are still stuck in the 90s like 80% of the filming too.
At the very least he needs to chime in more with his knowledge. I know he doesn't want to be on camera, but he's got so much insight and random facts to offer all the time during conversations.
i dont disagree at all. he has so much info about so much. but i still think dubs was the best choice if roger isnt there, but still in the background though.
@@rodrigoorozco9263 he chose to be off screen, but help run production off screen. you still hear him there giving thoughts about stuff. hes just not in the lime light as it were. runs cameras and such, which is what he really likes i suppose. hes still a large part of the show, just back stage. it was his choice, and a respectable one.
I'm sorry but The Nine Club is way more credible than this channel. Ha ahaa What this channel is about; an internet thing talking about other internet things? Looks like this channel is encouraging trolls to be more active on social media and stuff... For real I'm not into it and gonna watch the end of the previous Nine Club episode I didn't have time to finish. Peace! ✌️
Gary Vee was a step too far for some. The Gator thing was a dude spouting off what he heard vs the facts had already been established. They should have pushed back on it. Gary Vee’s shit is a pump/dump scam. He doesn’t deserve their platform or audience. Mike Mo’s NFT thing was bad enough but at least it was collectible based and tangible. To each their own, at the end of the day. Cheers.
I don't care about their non confrontational style of interviewing. I just have to stop watching sometimes bc I get tired of Kelly Hart having to interject his two cents into literally everything.
The guy seems narcissist and histrionic... like he's always putting on an act and being hyperbolic and dramatic and fake, to appear interesting. And I bet a big part of his followers are bots.
There is nothing more cringe and off putting than "Accountability Culture”. Doesn’t matter if it’s music, welding, knitting, video games, or skating. Every TH-cam community has those gossipy drama channels that try to hold people “accountable" for this or that. Its like high school girl drama. It’s just a podcast.
And they're ironically so nok self aware of their actual negativity..they're the worst kind of people who are clearly like that in everyday life. Prime example above.
There not being something they are not I've got nothing bad to say about nine club if people want to talk shit about other skaters they should just make their own channel
@@thegreatwhitemoose1582 no, I do not watch his streams because I am not into gaming. But the take is still stupid. Where‘s the connection between these points? He can do whatever he wants. Maybe that’s his best way of a balance
@@CFCVideos Your right he can do what ever he wants like make a failing channel that he spends 6years making and that doesnt get over 200k views. But yeah he should stream 8 hours a day to 10viewers instead of making good content for his main channel. 100% right bud.
Realistically Nine Club can't challenge people they don't have the same amount of subscribers as No Jumper. Nine club is still trying to get guests like Koston, Mariano, etc. So, they want to create a welcoming platform not a challenging one. It's not fair to expect them to challenge guests on the spot, they can address it on the experience show. I think if it's brand new info, give them some time to research it further and respond.
I don't understand the point of this video... That the Nine Club are nice to their guests? They're not journalists, they're skaters who mostly interview skaters about their careers and lives. You even put a pop-up on screen when the NFt douche said "skill", Chris added "style", and the conversation continued. Why? So what? That was pointless and meaningless to point out with a pop-up. This video is pointless and meaningless.
I’ll always watch an hour long video about wood shops over any breakdown of skateboard data of a specific event. Just my opinion but might want to check yourself
I’m sure if you talked shit about all the skaters and dig up the greasiest stuff to talk about then the show wouldn’t have lasted more than a year. Why would a skater go on if they knew they were going to be interrogated and felt uncomfortable. They are celebrating skateboarding. Anyone that doesn’t like it. Go start your own podcast have skaters on and talk shit. See how long it lasts 🤷🏼♂️
I don't think that The Nine Club is only about positive skate culture, it really is about getting people to share their stories on broad spectrum of the industry (filmers, photographers, company owners, writers, skaters). It helps document the history of skateboarding in a way and also gives us different views of subjects related to it (injuries, post-skateboarding career, sponsors) - which are "core" to the culture. I feel their attempts of branching out (Green room and the gaming stuff) are pretty boring so I don't really follow that and maybe (imo) they could come up with something better, mainly because Crob is a pretty funny guy (like the freestyle stuff with Andy Anderson). Should also mention that the more controversial stuff did come up naturally on some occassion like the Mark Johnson episode where he talked about his Lakai/Chocolate controversy even though Roberts, Eldridge and Jeron are still somewhat linked with the Crailtap. Also about the whole data thing and growing the channel, you are forgetting that The Nine Club viewership might no be the only source of income for this guys (besides Roger, Tim and Crob), they have the sponsors but also the merch on the website (that you didn't comment smh). In the end it still very much a passion project for most of them, doubt Jeron, Steezus or Kelly make much money out of it.
no. putting non-skaters/people who have nothing to do with skating on the nine club is a dumb idea. I don't know if you skate or not, but hearing each skaters view about the same thing or hearing stories about legendary or maybe random days in skateboarding history, is why a skater watches/listens to the nine club. as soon as you introduce outsiders, it becomes just another podcast, about which I frankly don't give a damn. I also love that it's not just another BS drama channel, like so many out there. it's for people who like to listen to skateboarding related stories, not for low-lifes who want to see people doing worse than themselves, to feel a little better >.
In regards to the Corey Duffel remarks, nobody should be ostracized their entire lives for making stupid decisions when they're young. People grow and change. Who gives a fuck? Move on. He acknowledged it was wrong and owned up to it which takes more balls than just pretending it never happened.
I Think skateboarding for the general public is only fun to watch. They don’t really care to learn about the individual skater and I think that’s the main reason skateboard podcast have a smaller audience. Only core skaters listen cuz we wanna know the history.
no hell just be a commenter on BTAB and not say a single positive comment about the winner. Completely ignore the dude after he makes an amazing come back to tyler peterson. Not a single positive comment from roberts or mo about jaime The entire finals. Kobra Kai bullshit.
Idk man, after watching Mike V's episode, which was my second or third time viewing thw show, I found it so fascinating that I'm still a pretty big fan.
If we're being honest with ourselves 9 Club just isn't that good and never has been. We just watch it because it's about skateboarding and it's always available. We can do much better than that.
Yeah, a bit too much simpin' on the 9 Club for my taste and it often comes across as fake, but great show otherwise and Chris is actually funny. I think I even made it through an entire episode once!
no jumper was never a bmx podcast lol the come up was no jumper has always been a rap podcast they had less than 10 skaters out of all their guests it’s not even comparable to the nine club lmao
Real skaters appreciate skating no matter what and people that gate keep and judge people because they aren’t on the same caliber have lost the real meaning in skateboarding
Bunch of actual babies in this comment section acting like criticism is a bad thing, or trying to pretend like people with criticism just want the show to be all hate. So disingenuous. Even crob said they would like to challenge guests after the gator thing happened, at least hes more mature than a lot of you guys.
It seems like since day one people have been telling the nine club how to run their show but the reality is they have left all but one of their competitors completely in the dust. it’s fair to critique them however at some point people gotta accept that the crew knows what they are doing and know what’s best for their show.
2017 was before it was _trendy_ and _popular_ to hate on him. But I don't even know who he is and will never watch any of his videos so I don't feel one way or the other about him. Just like it became a trend to hate Nickelback.
9Club need to bring Mullen or Koston or Bieber to boost their ratings. Hell, they should held a conference, interviewing Mullen on stage in front of thousand of live audience for a special 9 Club episode !
Well I watched/listened to your whole video and im in different. Comments are praising your point of view but I have no idea where u were going with this. Lotta people hate the nine club for petty reasons, but thats skating and the nature of people. They want it to be something its not. People want Chris, a grown ass man, to be something he's not. For ALOTTA people, nine club as become a safe haven of positivity and jokes. I hope they keep going down that path. Also didn't know Chris had a twitch, so thank you for the plug.
Idk man, it's a fucking skateboarding podcast. Skateboarding doesn't need drama and we don't need any of these guys arguing with guests about differing opinions.
Dumb Data your video seems to be playing the devils advocate here and presenting some good analysis honestly. Nice work. Just wanted to add that The Nine Club are bringing positivity to the interviews. No gotcha journalism. This is what helps them get so many unique guests on their shows. It makes the guests feel comfortable and willing to put themselves out there on the internet. Many of whom don't do podcasts or on camera interviews normally. TNC has even talked about prior guests that didn't like something they have said while recording and they offer to edit it out if need be BEFORE they release that episode. I think TNC is being genuine and that they want to tell that persons story in their own words. If they didn't do this then I would be less knowledgable then I am now. I enjoy watching the show and if you don't then don't watch it or don't watch an episode with a certain guest if you don't want. They do all this work to create free content for us. For that I am grateful. But do please support any of the creators you like. I too enjoyed the wood talk vid though.
It’s worth noting that a show where people just chop it up with each other and a show that documents the oral history of skateboarding are two very different ideas. The nine are clearly more comfortable being the former, but they also clearly don’t mind if people confuse them for being the ladder, which then creates expectations they wont fulfill.
i cant pretend ive ever noticed these issues in the show. nine club to me comes across as just a group of dudes that like skating and hearing stories about it from guests. that alone has been enough interest from me to watch about 100 episodes. repetitive? sure... but the guests are interesting enough. the point about how they dont even make great money off it reinforces this feel.
A one hour video about deck wood is a hundred times better than anything these NFT chuds have to say
with ben the god, no less
Gifted x Ben collabs are unmatched
I would love a podcast with those two and some guests. there’s certainly room for more than one podcast in the space.
I wish this channel did mkre research on nfts. The guy doesn't seem to really understand how it works
@@mattmattga there's several skate podcasts already, Nine Club is just the "most known" one. I'm personally a big fan of "The Bunt", they do a great job while also being able to talk some shit and give unfiltered opinions and mess around a lot
People are trying to make the show what they want it to be, it is not, is what Chris and the crew want it to be. Is a show about people talking to other people they liked or find interesting, with their own vibe. If you want it to be challenging or controversial you are drinking milk expecting that it tastes like orange juice.
Lame apologist just like them.
They contradict themselves often by agreeing to the opposite side of the opinion with other skaters. Hella people just hate like crazy in the comments so they try to avoid any type of hate possible lol...
@@nancypelosi480 I agree, the older episodes felt more organic and natural. I've been watching/listening to the nine club since 2017 and it's pretty easy to see what I'm talking about when you've been tuning in long enough
true!!
So you're saying that people can't have criticism basically lol. You sound just as slow as you're trying to make the critics out to be. 😂
Honestly the nine club is just a bunch of bros at the end of the day. Can’t expect much from guys whose mentality is “we’re just skaters man”
That’s what I was thinking. Like they just let people talk and everyone is butt hurt. I haven’t watched in a long time tho
and I legitimately don’t think they have much knowledge of anything that isn’t skateboarding ….
@@chaqui_xcx and they don't think so either.
but even just bros should have an opinion. Like, I can watch every episode and I wouldn't know anymore about the panelists than I did before. It's fake.
@@thisanthrope666 completely agree.
This has been my only criticism of the show over the years. They are all so scared of saying something that may be taken the wrong way or deemed controversial so they just agree with everything.
That’s Cali for ya. 🙃
At first they would joke around and bust balls but that only lasted a short while.. Jimmy Fallon no longer needs to press a button, Chris has forgotten what sarcasm is.
It had so much potential
Its a damn disney show pretty much. Half the time Crob just looks like he's so disinterested in his guests too. I can think of like at least 20 skaters who would be more interesting and better hosts.
@@JanoyCresva wow! We got someone with serious opinions here guys! Tell us more
Agreed.
I think the thing people often forget is, their style is more like a network talk show, not journalistic talk show.
Exactly its The View for wanna be skaters.
I would rather the nine club keep its formula opposed to getting views for people that have nothing to do with skateboarding. It’s a skateboarding podcast, not everything is about generating more views and monetary gain to appeal to an audience not tied to a podcast about skateboarding.
Please do a video on RadRat. He is accused of fighting on the Russian front against the Azov Battalion.
lol
???
dude wtf lmao
What?
Do it!!!!!!
I love their talks with skaters and industry people. Jamie Thomas, Mike Vallely, Jason Lee, and Jacob Rosenberg are standouts to me. Sometimes you want to watch something non toxic that isnt centered on ridiculous internet drama.
Gary Vee is seriously SO harsh. Dude is a fucking walking L.
I enjoyed that GiftedHater Ben Degros collab. Hope more come soon.
The two of them are like a sitcom dynamic
They're really good
Yeah they’re skaters skaters
They're so legit.
They aren't just yes men and Berrics dick riding, typical lame 2020s skaters like 90% of the clones in our community.
@@billclinton3010 TH-cam nerd skaters favorite skater yea
its hard to take your critique of Gifted hater seriously when the bar on the screen shows you watched the entire hour long video about wood
I didn't perceive that as a serious critique, but more of a nod to the Gifted Hater, who like Dumb Data, is creating more interesting skateboard content in 2022 than the big name podcasts like Nine Club.
Gifted Hater comments on Elijah Berle for taking two weeks to respond to Austyn Gillette, and Dumb Data comments on how two weeks have passed since he responded to Gifted Hater.
4:06 pizzafliptofakie spotted. Some may know him from the Bofa situation that took place some time last month. So sad to see.
I know him from Sawcon
I'm not too familiar with the Bofa situation, can anyone shed some light about the subject?
@@galvanizedgnome "...those ledges behind Sawcon." lmao
@@galvanizedgnome what’s Sawcon?
Nah nine club is chilling, you just crying.
The Nine Club is literally just friends interviewing friends though. I don't know why anyone would expect them to not be nice.
They've skated with damn near everyone they interviewed
The Nine Club doesn’t owe anybody anything.
Love the 9 club. They sit back, listen and let the person tell things from their point of view or simply just spew their opinion. Which in itself starts conversation. Everything doesn’t needs to be debated or intellectual. They literally just go with the flow. There are place’s and channels dedicated to that type of shit. Live and let live. ✌️
Amen, my dude.
Agreed. I actually respect them for their approach. The mission statement of their podcast more or less is to “celebrate skateboarding .” and this is exactly what they do. Controversy is like a cheap sugar high, but if that’s what you want there are 1 million other places to get that. I hope they just keep doing what they’ve been doing
Not in skateboarding though and it’s very much needed in this day and age
Perfect comment
Exactly…LOVE the Nine Club!
My dude dumbdata putting some actual content with substance out. Love this channel and the direction you’re steering into. Filling a void for sure, please keep up the good work.
Reddit celebrity
@@zacktaylor1143 👀
substance? The nine club had a guest on. That some of you did not like. So dumbdata spends probably DAYS researching into the guest and then pinning that stuff on the nine club? Lol pathetic substance. Don't like a guest? Dont fuckn watch the episode you quack.
listen, I love the nine club but Crobs interviewing skills need some work. I'm not sure if he get disinterested or it's a little social anxiety but it seems like if the guest is not a natural extrovert the conversation gets derailed and even a little cringe. I'm only saying this out of love, I want NC to thrive.
@@zacktaylor1143 I believe that's what's called an Oxymoron.
So Roy Purdy cringe but John Hill isn't?
haha I found that funny too
Dude you guys need to chill seriously.
The nine club is a great episode wit 500+ episodes and you guys are hating because of 2 episodes..
I am a huge fan of these guys because of them I was able to learn so much about my favorite skaters, see how they act and speak, all the great behind the scene storys and much more.. Thank you nine club for that!!!!
You guys should all be more thankful for what you have and get and not just hate because you can in the internet!!!!
thank you hope you all have a great day
Do you even know what hating means ?
People love to complain about everything. If you don’t like something don’t watch it, it’s simple.
@@princequestly2218 that’s the biggest problem with everyone!
Is this you're secret account Kelly hart? 😂
Equating criticism to hate is very immature.
bro is hurt by gifted hater, the hr wood video was more interesting then this bruh
facts👍🏽
Facts
They’re documenting skateboarding’a history. They don’t have to shit on everyone to accomplish that.
It doesnt have to be one extreme or the other either. Stupid strawman comment, like we want them to shit on everyone? Wtf is with you guys
did you watch the video?
As long as I can learn more about my favourite skaters I’m happy. I agree Crob should do a bit of research though, that’s how you get deeper interviews. Good video Dumb Data.
zak! crazy it seems we have the same hobbies, skateboarding and sacred geometry :) dope seeing ur name somewhere i didn’t expect it
@@georgesfakianakis9254 🤘🏻What up George!
I didn’t even know who Gary V was. I usually don’t check out Nine Club episodes unless I know who the guest is. These capitalism bro personalities are already toxic in skating (see Dyrdek) they really don’t need to be bringing in more douchebags
lol it was so unexpected for me that they could bring such a guest
Capitalism is why you have every luxury you have
Honestly a lot of dumb ass data in this video. Congrats on staying true to your name. I like the idea of spreading positivity within skateboarding. One of the biggest things you must realize is that as you get older, skateboarding begins to be less about being critical about others’ skating styles and more about celebrating a common interest amongst everyone in this beautiful community. Not every page has to talk shit. There are pages that do it really well and others that do not feel the need to do so.
It’s not about skaters styles, it’s about who they are as a human being. If u got a shit personality, fake as shit, rude, condescending all that lame wack energy we can get critical about. Keep it sturddddy💪🏽😂
Ahhh you mad
He didn’t bring up skating styles a single time you weirdo
The 9 club never claimed to be investigative reporters. They give famous skateboarders/industry folk (mostly) a place to share their story. It may be accurate or inaccurate, but it's specifically NOT a confrontational integration and I hope it stays that way.
They need to evolve if they want the channel to last
They don’t need to be “investigative reporters” if they’re just normal folks having a conversation, but they’re actively giving a platform to people who are spreading potentially dangerous or hurtful misinformation on THEIR show. At some point they need to take accountability and be able to stand up to a guest who’s flagrantly using their platform to sell bullshit or rewrite a dark past. Also, dumbdata is just giving suggestions here based off of *data* as to how they can survive the always shifting attention span of a viewing audience. I get that you like the nine club for what it is and has been, but there’s no denying it’s gotten stale and is borderline pandering to bullshit in order to remain afloat.
But thats because youre a dim bulb
Joking around n being sarcastic isn't being confrontational
@@lowqualityskateboarding So Eric, a homeless drug attic broke into your car and stole $100. How did you atone for accusing him of this crime?"
Nora is so wack! Such a hypocrite and is really showing her true colors during all of this.
How is she hypocritical? Not arguing for or against. Just wondering what she has done that would be hypocritical in regards to her request?
@@mikequinlivan8842 she said in this interview there is a scientific difference between men and women and it’s fact and she would land things more easily if she were a male. Then when a female called out a trans female skater for winning a female contest, she laid into the other woman and told her she needs to change her attitude and rethink being in skating. She went the total different direction and is instead putting women down for having a disadvantage in a woman’s contest.
@@evanpiedrahita7378 ah…okiedokie
Hassa piker is the worst
I feel like ever since Gifted Hater pointed out how positive they are about everything, more people have started hating on The Nine Club. The podcast is pretty good and they don’t have to be critics or anything, they’re just chilling
They also don't have to agree with every word their guest says
@@idontwantone132 So what
@@claysoggyfries not even how to reply to your comment
@@claysoggyfries you just nut huggin
Exactly just let people enjoy things, get off your phone and go skate
I like the nine club, i have fun whenever i see it.... Maybe you prefer the agressive ironic kind of tv shows, then why you watch the nine club? , you seem to know a lot of this program....
They talk about older skateboarding. Lots of 90s stuff. Skateboarding was better then, it's horrible now. All about, look at me, look at my tricks I landed, that took months. Think of this, we would go skateboarding for months, years, without filming a thing. At a time when history in skateboarding was happening, we still weren't thinking of self promotion. It was always about raw progressive skateboarding.
True
Professional skateboarding has been about self promotion and showing off the new tricks you landed since it first became pupular (probably before your time). Casual skating hasn't changed at all and you're just stuck in the past. Go with the times old man. Embrace the future
I would love to get with the times but I destroyed 3 discs in my back age 30. This was 15 years ago, and is probably why I am bitter and twisted lol. I was devastated, I loved it, could hold my own down skatepark and would defo still be skating now. I have had a roll coz my daughter is getting into skating. But it's painful and kills me when trying even basic shit. Hey ho, I'm more pragmatic these days coz I had a good run (no pun) and grew up in England with skaters who went on to be big names, and skated with some of the best skaters you could name from 90s. The real innovative generation
This is the problem with Skate Culture I noticed growing. It has this "hippy" and "peace and love" attitude. That we are all bros, nothing is wrong, he's sick, she's sick, he's rad, she's rad, we are all rad. Skateboarding is about expression and everything is good blah, blah, blah. This is what is called Toxic Positivity. That everything is good and nothing is wrong so you just end up agreeing with everything. The problem is when that happens, there is no sense of conviction. Nothing is challenged. And when nothing is challenged, you don't grow. Which is funny, because skateboarding is all about challenges and that helps you grow. It's a brutal activity. Yet, it has this stoner hippy culture that doesn't want to challenge anything. Which I don't blame them, most pro skaters never finished high school so they don't have that capability of deep thought. Of challenging the industry and arising different challenging questions. This niceness needs to stop and be more objective on things. It's good sometimes but if that's all you do, you're boring. You're the "nice guy." Who wants that?
Well put
Weird, that's not at all what I experienced in the late 90s on, I was the odd one out cause I wished more girls would skate.
Now I'm the odd one out cause I think someone going pro cause they can switch flip a 3 stair and have a vagina is ridiculous or that a trans person is likely going to have an advantage competing against natural women..
You either have to be one extreme or the other to have a community these days
EDIT: misread the beginning n thought it said growing up.
this should be pinned at the top
@@drumboarder1 based comment
Another point is that skate moss prick, reposted some old Facebook post of hers complaining about women being judged at skateparks because of what they wear..
She goes to a skatepark looking like it's a runway show, teenage boys look at the obvious fish out of water and she has a hissy fit that teenage boys think the attractive "model" is an odd site at the skatepark..
Meanwhile as a dude I constantly got crapped on for what I wore at the park.. And anywhere else cause torn up skate punk isn't what many people wanna see..
I wonder what that bitch would post if she dealt with all the randoms screaming that they hoped I broke my arm or leg when jumping down a set or people trying to knock me off my board..
Or the multiple times people threatened to murder me..
Skaters were always 50% pussies but now instead of trying to fight you cause you didn't think they actually tre flipped an 8 when they can't even throw the flip properly, they're whining on twitter..
I have a feeling GaryV is on downfall and now is going anywhere that he think he still didnt scam anyone. anyone who thinks I am bsing plz explain me how I am wrong, I am open to that, but plz dont come with empty msg just saying how gary v. is great
They *lost* me with the Gary Vee episode, I just think its just so fucked
Btw Dumb Data, you're fucking KILLING IT right now, I love all your content including these thinkpieces because your analysis is always so characteristically rigorous
Yeeea! Cancel them King. Show em how they're about to miss you big time!!!
that episode isnt for everyone i didnt like it either so i didnt watch about 40 mins in i stopped and ill just wait tell the next guest comes out im still waiting for koston penney and other dudes i bet when they get some guys like that on you'll be happy ?
For real, while there is a lot of hustle and grind needed to get good on a board, Gary Vee's mentality is just dogshit bad and doesn't match anything skaters are about.
@@stratfender89 well that's odd some people in the comments of the episode where happy to see that episode and I bet they probably skateboard I'm personally not a fan of him after learning what he's about so I stopped watching and just waiting for next week's episode
I'm sure there are. I'm just saying from all the skaters I've rode with throughout the years, I haven't met any who have taken on the Gary Vee mindset.
You’re complaining that they aren’t critical enough and aren’t talking shit on enough things, when that’s not what their show is about?
That’s like critiquing a rom-com on the fact there aren’t enough super-hero fight scenes in it.
Don’t like it don’t watch it lmfao
Edit: also 23:15 is an awful take, what’s the point
Its the fact that they dont critique ANYTHING! Like a rape apologist just ranting on their show. You missed the point hard bro
1 sided interviews aren't interesting. Gotta have the back and forth to unearth the gold.
@@ceezus_ he didn't call for them to be cancelled just pointing out there blatant unwillingness to call out their guests bs
@@ceezus_ bro I don't watch. Stopped watching 9 club a long time ago for the exact reasons dumb data points out. And entitlement?!? Its not about entitlement by the viewer, its about having a better podcast (for the viewer)
@@ceezus_ and if you think skateboarding is all the same culutre you're tripping. Like comparing top 40 pop and Iowan garage rock. Both music but everything surrounding them is different
I hope the Nine Club keeps doing this for the core skateboard fans instead of the growth of the podcast. Growth means death of what it was meant to be. Skateboarding is a lifestyle not a marketing growth opportunity.
Agreed, the 9 has a lane and they know it. This is a long term project and I believe people are acknowledging them and their lane. He shows up nervous so just talked about what he can talk about… their craft. I did not listen all the way through once I found out Gary didn’t skate, but said streetwear hella.
Still the acknowledgment is positive.
but "lifestyle" & "marketing growth opportunity" are pretty synonymous at this point in the industry.
just look at all the clothing, branding/corporate sponsorships, contests, etc...
& the olympics, for fucks sake!
skateboarding is all about growth, for better or for worse.
if it wasn't everyone would still be doing slalom, downhill & wheelies & mimicking surfer styles & fashion.
growth is inherent in all things.
the 9 Club can't please everybody.
goes the same for bands that don't continue to make the same record again & again, thus pissing off part of their fanbase that want them to keep doing the same thing they fell in love with them over.
i do agree that some interviews could benefit from Rob & crew digging deeper or changing their line of questioning,
but people are gonna complain whether they keep it formulaic or try branching out.
sure, i don't enjoy every episode, but if they ended the podcast i'd be bummed.
i feel like MOST people have at least a few interesting things to say.
(aside from gary vee)
at the end of the day , i watch the episodes i think i'll be interested in the most
& usually i enjoy at least part of them.
@@cygmusmandulis7533 that's it. you enjoy more if it pokes your interest, maintains a certain level of curiosity, relevant to consume content. for us, there are tons of intellectuals debacle podcasts, and nine club are one of podcasts that we got to sit down and just chill romanticizing about how fun skateboarding is.
I love the nine club, they did drop the ball on the Gator thing but the guys seem to have little knowledge about skateboarding prior to the 1990's. They just seem like a great bunch of guys that want to talk and love skateboarding. Even with the best of intentions it's almost impossible to not have a few fuck ups considering the staggering amount of content they have put out.
How did they drop the ball though? They had someone on that talked about an incident that happened when they were just little kids. Are they expected to have known all the ins and outs of Gator's murder before having Mark Oblow on the show? There's this big push on the Internet too get angry at every host who just lets the guest talk and I think that's ridiculous. The person gets to see what they say, and then get called out on it on social media if people think they are full of it. That's a perfect system. It's not a bug, it's a feature. Podcast hosts are not supposed to play judge jury and executioner because they aren't always experts in the particulars of the subject. That's why they have guests.
@@jasondashney they dropped the ball by having no knowledge on this. There is a great documentary called the rise and fall of gator about it. I love the show and the guys seem so cool but I have noticed that they have put in little work in learning about skateboarding from before they're era. The gator thing is so well known in skateboarding that I think it's why people got so upset
@@DanHovington You're angry at them for lacking intimate historical knowledge about someone who wasn't even on the show? That's a pretty high standard. Everyone knew the Gator thing happened but not everyone should be expected to know the details of the case, especially when it happened when they were little kids.
Dude, these guys aren't even clear about which videos they were personally in, let alone what Gator did decades ago. Chris will ask "Was Questionable before Virtual Reality" and I'm like yeah, the video your personal friends starred in. Yes, yes it was. If they get confused about that, you gotta cut them some slack. Cheers.
@@jasondashney Not angry at all, I pointed out the fact that these guys seem to have very little knowledge about skateboarding prior to mid 90's skateboarding. I do wish they would have more interest in skateboarding history prior to that period. I still love the show and think that they all seem like great guys that I would love to hang out with
@@DanHovington history just doesn't seem to be a thing in skateboarding. I live in a Vancouver suburb and I was telling a skateboarder that Mike Hastie lives right near him and he's like "Who?". This kid is in his 20's and started skateboarding when Mike was still pro for Darkstar and the town they live in is very small. Kids don't even know about their own communities history let alone the larger picture. The number of kids these days that have never heard of Jeremy Wray blows my mind, never mind Gator haha.
Honestly the Mark Oblow thing was way worse than the Gary V interview. They should have stopped that idiot dead in his tracks and told him to take a fucking hike. The shit gator did to that poor girl is disgusting and he should remain in jail for the rest of his life. The Gary V thing I just didn't watch. Nothing against them for it though. Can't satisfy everyone with every episode.
Unfortunately we live in a time where the very same people who watch & listen to content are just waiting for those very same content creator's to fail! The Nine Club has literally produced week's worth of great entertainment and knowledge for the skating community from around the world, but just one 5 minute segment from a misinformed guest is enough to dismiss all that other great content and call for the cancellation of something they actually enjoyed a week before. It's a shollow unhealthy world we live in atm, and I honestly feel sorry for anybody who puts themselves out there and tries to entertain & inform people.
Put it better than I could.
Chill dude. I don’t see anybody calling for cancellation. There’s nothing wrong with criticism. Yea it’s “free” content, but it’s made for an audience who generate views which generates income. It’s in the best interest of the show to at least to some degree take it into consideration. Obviously there’ll be extreme cases of people being idiots but the vast majority is just calling them out on a misstep.
@@velouriumcamper0753 agreed
Exactly, to many people lost in their ironic egos pretending these fallouts are even vaguely a positive thing. Society is decaying in the opposite way as presented.
Incredible take that's all too familiar to all of us these days. The internet was a mistake.
i loved the hour of woodshops!
I think everyone should chill and not jump on the hate-train. The Nine Club has so many good interviews with a lot of pro's we all admire. And basically 50% of this video is about Gary Vee and partially Mark Oblow (F*ck you m8). So to immediately label it as "Everything goes wrong" is wrong imo. Give the dudes who spread love so much some love back. Nine Club is dope
Amen.
This video doesn't label it as "Everything goes wrong" at all. Try reading EVERY word in a sentence and you'll understand what the actual subject matter is.
@@juli7xxxxx argh.. I have to admit that halfway of my argument I focussed more on the latter part of the sentence. You're right to correct that. A case study of when not agreeing goes right
There’s enough depressing stuff in the world, it’s nice to listen to a group of guys always speaking positively and humbly about what they love. They don’t need to start arguments with guests.
One could equally criticise you for making a video about a nothing controversy for the sake of getting clicks. How about take a lesson from them and spend more time trying to do something positive with your time.
It's depressing to hear people ignore what makes people depressed and act like it doesn't exist.
@@jenks4879 you can always find other outlets for that. There’s millions of podcasts out there, this one doesn’t have to check every box.
@@n.5576 I agree but I felt that was barely this guys argument in the video.
If you don't like it don't watch? So what they not in the game of throwing stones like some others. Why would they invite someone on the show and roast them? The Gary V ep, if you're open minded a little could be used for skaters to learn to use social media better to grow. Alot of skaters are still stuck in the 90s like 80% of the filming too.
If you don't like it don't comment?
Roger needs to be on camera again. I love dubs but Roger is great at being a skate encyclopedia.
At the very least he needs to chime in more with his knowledge. I know he doesn't want to be on camera, but he's got so much insight and random facts to offer all the time during conversations.
i dont disagree at all. he has so much info about so much. but i still think dubs was the best choice if roger isnt there, but still in the background though.
What happend to Roger?
@@rodrigoorozco9263 he's behind the scenes nowadays. He chimes in every so often but maybe one or two lines a show
@@rodrigoorozco9263 he chose to be off screen, but help run production off screen. you still hear him there giving thoughts about stuff. hes just not in the lime light as it were. runs cameras and such, which is what he really likes i suppose. hes still a large part of the show, just back stage. it was his choice, and a respectable one.
I'm sorry but The Nine Club is way more credible than this channel. Ha ahaa What this channel is about; an internet thing talking about other internet things? Looks like this channel is encouraging trolls to be more active on social media and stuff... For real I'm not into it and gonna watch the end of the previous Nine Club episode I didn't have time to finish. Peace! ✌️
I think people forget that the nine club challenged Weckingball, of course in a nice way and same with Dom Deluca
iactuallylikedlearningaboutwoodfor2hours
Gary Vee was a step too far for some. The Gator thing was a dude spouting off what he heard vs the facts had already been established. They should have pushed back on it.
Gary Vee’s shit is a pump/dump scam. He doesn’t deserve their platform or audience. Mike Mo’s NFT thing was bad enough but at least it was collectible based and tangible.
To each their own, at the end of the day.
Cheers.
i’m just here for the dumb data v gifted rivalry
Bro nobody gives af about Nora! Those type of ppl are the exact toxic problem in this generation! 🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽🤡
God no a Hasan fan
If Nora doesn’t like the show, I now like it a little more
😂
it’s giving misogyny
@@soyourboi27 she’s obnoxious, get over it
I loved the 9 club but idk i dont feel the guests as much anymore
I don't care about their non confrontational style of interviewing. I just have to stop watching sometimes bc I get tired of Kelly Hart having to interject his two cents into literally everything.
Actually Kelly sometimes can be a breathe of fresh air, when he's not fake laughing ALL THE FUCKING TIME....ugh. It must be a nervous tic.
@@capo_di_capi Yeah, that gets rough. He can be okay sometimes but he also has some mega Chad energy for sure.
The guy seems narcissist and histrionic... like he's always putting on an act and being hyperbolic and dramatic and fake, to appear interesting. And I bet a big part of his followers are bots.
There is nothing more cringe and off putting than "Accountability Culture”.
Doesn’t matter if it’s music, welding, knitting, video games, or skating. Every TH-cam community has those gossipy drama channels that try to hold people “accountable" for this or that. Its like high school girl drama.
It’s just a podcast.
Imagine trying to weaponize accountability for shit you say. Y’all really live in another reality.
And they're ironically so nok self aware of their actual negativity..they're the worst kind of people who are clearly like that in everyday life. Prime example above.
I was NOT prepared for homeboy to kiss his dad like that
I detest nfts buy having a clip of hasan to make your point is incredibly stupid
This agreeing with everything style has infected so many genres of content.
There not being something they are not I've got nothing bad to say about nine club if people want to talk shit about other skaters they should just make their own channel
23:15 was such a stupid take imo.
I agree. There is alot correct about this video but there also a lot stupid attacks
So you guys are his 19 Twich viewers.
@@thegreatwhitemoose1582 no, I do not watch his streams because I am not into gaming. But the take is still stupid. Where‘s the connection between these points? He can do whatever he wants. Maybe that’s his best way of a balance
@@thegreatwhitemoose1582 I’ve never watched twitch in my life. The last video game I played was Twilight princess when I was in high school
@@CFCVideos Your right he can do what ever he wants like make a failing channel that he spends 6years making and that doesnt get over 200k views. But yeah he should stream 8 hours a day to 10viewers instead of making good content for his main channel. 100% right bud.
The dislike ratio is really just because he has absolutely nothing to do with skateboarding.
Sure the nine club doesn't hate on anyone.....except Rad Rat. #teamradrat
Did he kiss he dad on the mouth?...🤮
Wait till they interview Gator...
Realistically Nine Club can't challenge people they don't have the same amount of subscribers as No Jumper. Nine club is still trying to get guests like Koston, Mariano, etc. So, they want to create a welcoming platform not a challenging one. It's not fair to expect them to challenge guests on the spot, they can address it on the experience show. I think if it's brand new info, give them some time to research it further and respond.
Wood talk was fun 😄
I don't understand the point of this video... That the Nine Club are nice to their guests? They're not journalists, they're skaters who mostly interview skaters about their careers and lives. You even put a pop-up on screen when the NFt douche said "skill", Chris added "style", and the conversation continued. Why? So what? That was pointless and meaningless to point out with a pop-up. This video is pointless and meaningless.
I’ll always watch an hour long video about wood shops over any breakdown of skateboard data of a specific event. Just my opinion but might want to check yourself
I’m sure if you talked shit about all the skaters and dig up the greasiest stuff to talk about then the show wouldn’t have lasted more than a year. Why would a skater go on if they knew they were going to be interrogated and felt uncomfortable. They are celebrating skateboarding. Anyone that doesn’t like it. Go start your own podcast have skaters on and talk shit. See how long it lasts 🤷🏼♂️
I don't think that The Nine Club is only about positive skate culture, it really is about getting people to share their stories on broad spectrum of the industry (filmers, photographers, company owners, writers, skaters). It helps document the history of skateboarding in a way and also gives us different views of subjects related to it (injuries, post-skateboarding career, sponsors) - which are "core" to the culture. I feel their attempts of branching out (Green room and the gaming stuff) are pretty boring so I don't really follow that and maybe (imo) they could come up with something better, mainly because Crob is a pretty funny guy (like the freestyle stuff with Andy Anderson). Should also mention that the more controversial stuff did come up naturally on some occassion like the Mark Johnson episode where he talked about his Lakai/Chocolate controversy even though Roberts, Eldridge and Jeron are still somewhat linked with the Crailtap. Also about the whole data thing and growing the channel, you are forgetting that The Nine Club viewership might no be the only source of income for this guys (besides Roger, Tim and Crob), they have the sponsors but also the merch on the website (that you didn't comment smh). In the end it still very much a passion project for most of them, doubt Jeron, Steezus or Kelly make much money out of it.
no.
putting non-skaters/people who have nothing to do with skating on the nine club is a dumb idea.
I don't know if you skate or not, but hearing each skaters view about the same thing or hearing stories about legendary or maybe random days in skateboarding history,
is why a skater watches/listens to the nine club. as soon as you introduce outsiders, it becomes just another podcast, about which I frankly don't give a damn.
I also love that it's not just another BS drama channel, like so many out there. it's for people who like to listen to skateboarding related stories, not for low-lifes who want to see people doing worse than themselves, to feel a little better >.
Nine club is decent, rad to hear skaters talk about stuff.
In regards to the Corey Duffel remarks, nobody should be ostracized their entire lives for making stupid decisions when they're young. People grow and change. Who gives a fuck? Move on. He acknowledged it was wrong and owned up to it which takes more balls than just pretending it never happened.
I Think skateboarding for the general public is only fun to watch. They don’t really care to learn about the individual skater and I think that’s the main reason skateboard podcast have a smaller audience. Only core skaters listen cuz we wanna know the history.
no hell just be a commenter on BTAB and not say a single positive comment about the winner. Completely ignore the dude after he makes an amazing come back to tyler peterson. Not a single positive comment from roberts or mo about jaime The entire finals. Kobra Kai bullshit.
We went from boxed water to canned water..
We are killing it.
Take that as you will.
Start investing in water’d water now
Idk man, after watching Mike V's episode, which was my second or third time viewing thw show, I found it so fascinating that I'm still a pretty big fan.
If we're being honest with ourselves 9 Club just isn't that good and never has been. We just watch it because it's about skateboarding and it's always available. We can do much better than that.
Yeah, a bit too much simpin' on the 9 Club for my taste and it often comes across as fake, but great show otherwise and Chris is actually funny. I think I even made it through an entire episode once!
Hey Nora I don't think you need to worry about getting those episodes deleted, everyone skips over yours anyway.
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no jumper was never a bmx podcast lol the come up was no jumper has always been a rap podcast they had less than 10 skaters out of all their guests it’s not even comparable to the nine club lmao
It was a bmx channel before the pocast
@@harrymckee297 the come up is a bmx podcast/channel. no jumper is specifically a rap podcast before anything else
Real skaters appreciate skating no matter what and people that gate keep and judge people because they aren’t on the same caliber have lost the real meaning in skateboarding
Love the nine club. It's a nice break from all the madness of the world
Bunch of actual babies in this comment section acting like criticism is a bad thing, or trying to pretend like people with criticism just want the show to be all hate. So disingenuous. Even crob said they would like to challenge guests after the gator thing happened, at least hes more mature than a lot of you guys.
It seems like since day one people have been telling the nine club how to run their show but the reality is they have left all but one of their competitors completely in the dust. it’s fair to critique them however at some point people gotta accept that the crew knows what they are doing and know what’s best for their show.
2017 was before it was _trendy_ and _popular_ to hate on him. But I don't even know who he is and will never watch any of his videos so I don't feel one way or the other about him. Just like it became a trend to hate Nickelback.
9Club need to bring Mullen or Koston or Bieber to boost their ratings. Hell, they should held a conference, interviewing Mullen on stage in front of thousand of live audience for a special 9 Club episode !
9club are the best
Well I watched/listened to your whole video and im in different. Comments are praising your point of view but I have no idea where u were going with this.
Lotta people hate the nine club for petty reasons, but thats skating and the nature of people. They want it to be something its not. People want Chris, a grown ass man, to be something he's not.
For ALOTTA people, nine club as become a safe haven of positivity and jokes. I hope they keep going down that path.
Also didn't know Chris had a twitch, so thank you for the plug.
Idk man, it's a fucking skateboarding podcast. Skateboarding doesn't need drama and we don't need any of these guys arguing with guests about differing opinions.
lmfao i forgot about them having dave mayhew on there talking about how he designed the shoe
Dumb Data your video seems to be playing the devils advocate here and presenting some good analysis honestly. Nice work. Just wanted to add that The Nine Club are bringing positivity to the interviews. No gotcha journalism. This is what helps them get so many unique guests on their shows. It makes the guests feel comfortable and willing to put themselves out there on the internet. Many of whom don't do podcasts or on camera interviews normally. TNC has even talked about prior guests that didn't like something they have said while recording and they offer to edit it out if need be BEFORE they release that episode. I think TNC is being genuine and that they want to tell that persons story in their own words. If they didn't do this then I would be less knowledgable then I am now. I enjoy watching the show and if you don't then don't watch it or don't watch an episode with a certain guest if you don't want. They do all this work to create free content for us. For that I am grateful. But do please support any of the creators you like. I too enjoyed the wood talk vid though.
Why do you want host to "challenge" everything? Let them tell their story. I don't wanna watch two grown argue about skateboarding of all things.
Hawk v Wolf is just... ugh... I despise Jason Ellis.
Congrats on being internet paparazzi.
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Nice passive aggressive comment
Congrats on being gay
Skateboarding is soft now. It's for snowflakes. They're just catering to their base
Its nobodys job to call anyone out. Nineclub is not responsible for what others say. Its merely a platform for people to talk.
I think people saying this are just complaining about the fact that you guys are mistaking criticism and negativity.
It’s worth noting that a show where people just chop it up with each other and a show that documents the oral history of skateboarding are two very different ideas.
The nine are clearly more comfortable being the former, but they also clearly don’t mind if people confuse them for being the ladder, which then creates expectations they wont fulfill.