Mega Man X5: Zero's Xtremely MEH Adventure
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 พ.ย. 2022
- This is the 2019 remastered no damage playthrough of Mega Man X5 using Zero, compiled into movie format for modern day viewership. Below are the details:
- No Damage on Xtreme Mode. This mode has more enemies and some of them are faster, which... makes getting the MEH rank harder considering you're supposed to kill as little enemies as possible per stage.
- Acquire the MMH (or MEH) rank by the end of the game: I'll explain what that is and this game's asinine scoring system at the end of the description.
- I applied an old Alia Silence patch, so that's why you aren't seeing her. Remember that this was BEFORE the X5 Addendum existed, so yes, I already know about that project.
- I omitted Saber Dash Canceling (SDC) for more complex cancel techniques. I get it. Everyone likes seeing it shred bosses. Well, I don't, personally. It's boring to me when there are variants that allow for more clean cancels and flow more naturally into Zero's learned techniques. Besides, Skiver's weapon disables SDC anyway, and this isn't trying to be an optimal speedrun, so my logic was that I might as well get used to crouching cancels and reverse sabers since it's forced upon you.
A Crouch cancel is when you interrupt Zero's three-hit combo by pressing down via ducking. Since it functions similarly to dash cancel, you can manipulate this to your advantage. If you press the opposite direction during the second hit of the combo, Zero will turn around with the horizontal slash, creating an extra hit. You can crouch here (and turn BACK around near-instantaneously) to loop it. It's less prone to input failure compared to SDC (since you won't have to worry about dashing into enemies by mistake), and it's more fun than just mashing two buttons to win, in my opinion.
Watch this video for a more detailed guide: • Mega Man X5 ~ Zero Com...
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X5's Stupid Ranking System Explained:
I want to know which pinhead thought it was a good idea to reflect the scoring system on the story's urgency. Yeah, story-wise, X and Zero aren't trying to waste time fighting everyone. Gameplay-wise, forcing the player to ignore half of the stage is utter lunacy.
Yes, the fewer enemies you kill, the better your score. And the faster you clear the stage, the better your score. Obviously, damage factors in as well. However, here's where it REALLY gets dumb. You know how the Zero series gives you a believable time limit that's different for each mission? Welp, X5 said screw that, we require you to get the same time on EVERY. DAMN. STAGE.
The absolute best scoring for each stage is 1 minute clearance, 40 or less enemies killed, and... I forgot the damage threshold, but I don't care about that. Also, touching Sigma Viruses impact your score for some stupid reason. Anyways, tell me, lovely viewers: how are you supposed to beat Duff's stage, which is 99% slow asf autoscroller, IN ONE MINUTE? You can't? Well, too bad. The game says you suck for being incapable of achieving the impossible! That's why in stages like that, I literally did not care about time or how many enemies I killed because the final score will be at its lowest anyway, as there's no way to clear that stage in under 5 minutes.
So, the only way to bypass this is to reserve the shortest stages for last, or make sure you have a PA rank before fighting X or Zero. I hate being subject to linearity and forced to speedrun the way everyone else does, so I opted for option 2 so I could have a more unique route (because yes, do not use this video as a guide to MEH. What I'm doing is not optimal).
Don't ask me what MEH or MMH means because I don't even know, lmao. All I know is that it's the highest rank, and that was the goal of this run.
TL;DR, X5 sucks and I'm never doing a MEH run again.
#megaman #megamanx5 #nodamage - เกม
![Mega Man ZX - Model OX vs All Bosses [No Damage/Hard Mode]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/1u2IRrayol4/mqdefault.jpg)
Crucial details. Please read before asking questions:
- No Damage on Xtreme Mode. This mode has more enemies and some of them are faster, which... makes getting the MEH rank harder considering you're supposed to kill as little enemies as possible per stage.
- Acquire the MMH (or MEH) rank by the end of the game: I'll explain what that is and this game's asinine scoring system at the end of the description.
- I applied an old Alia Silence patch, so that's why you aren't seeing her. Remember that this was BEFORE the X5 Addendum existed, so yes, I already know about that project.
- I omitted Saber Dash Canceling (SDC) for more complex cancel techniques. I get it. Everyone likes seeing it shred bosses. Well, I don't, personally. It's boring to me when there are variants that allow for more clean cancels and flow more naturally into Zero's learned techniques. Besides, Skiver's weapon disables SDC anyway, and this isn't trying to be an optimal speedrun, so my logic was that I might as well get used to crouching cancels and reverse sabers since it's forced upon you.
A Crouch cancel is when you interrupt Zero's three-hit combo by pressing down via ducking. Since it functions similarly to dash cancel, you can manipulate this to your advantage. If you press the opposite direction during the second hit of the combo, Zero will turn around with the horizontal slash, creating an extra hit. You can crouch here (and turn BACK around near-instantaneously) to loop it. It's less prone to input failure compared to SDC (since you won't have to worry about dashing into enemies by mistake), and it's more fun than just mashing two buttons to win, in my opinion.
Watch this video for a more detailed guide: th-cam.com/video/rfPZxWnpSbs/w-d-xo.html
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X5's Stupid Ranking System Explained:
I want to know which pinhead thought it was a good idea to reflect the scoring system on the story's urgency. Yeah, story-wise, X and Zero aren't trying to waste time fighting everyone. Gameplay-wise, forcing the player to ignore half of the stage is utter lunacy.
Yes, the fewer enemies you kill, the better your score. And the faster you clear the stage, the better your score. Obviously, damage factors in as well. However, here's where it REALLY gets dumb. You know how the Zero series gives you a believable time limit that's different for each mission? Welp, X5 said screw that, we require you to get the same time on EVERY. DAMN. STAGE.
The absolute best scoring for each stage is 1 minute clearance, 40 or less enemies killed, and... I forgot the damage threshold, but I don't care about that. Also, touching Sigma Viruses impact your score for some stupid reason. Anyways, tell me, lovely viewers: how are you supposed to beat Duff's stage, which is 99% slow asf autoscroller, IN ONE MINUTE? You can't? Well, too bad. The game says you suck for being incapable of achieving the impossible! That's why in stages like that, I literally did not care about time or how many enemies I killed because the final score will be at its lowest anyway, as there's no way to clear that stage in under 5 minutes.
So, the only way to bypass this is to reserve the shortest stages for last, or make sure you have a PA rank before fighting X or Zero. I hate being subject to linearity and forced to speedrun the way everyone else does, so I opted for option 2 so I could have a more unique route (because yes, do not use this video as a guide to MEH. What I'm doing is not optimal).
Don't ask me what MEH or MMH means because I don't even know, lmao. All I know is that it's the highest rank, and that was the goal of this run.
TL;DR, X5 sucks and I'm never doing a MEH run again.
What chips or boosts did you use though out the game? I think you used dash boost chip in the Rose stage.
Hyper Dash + Saber Plus
Did this before for both X and Zero in separate memory slots years ago in an emulator.
Have done A LOT of save states and yes, the criteria of beating LESS enemies per stage to rank up is really dumb and contradictory.
I know I’m three months late but MMH most likely means “Master Maverick Hunter” while MEH most likely means “Master Irregular Hunter” even though Irregular doesn’t start with E.
What were they thinking with Duff McWhalen's stage? "Ah yes, I know what would be the peak of a speedy action platformer all about exploration and using the dash and wall jump to get through stages quickly while feeling like a badass: a stupid submarine chases you, barely posing any threat, and the camera is locked on the submarine, which moves like molasses."
I'm afraid a lot of weed was involved during the development of Duffy
What can I say about this stage is that is much more interesting if we do it with naked X. I found that is very unbalanced for the submarina that its parts get destroyed by multihits attacks. Because the majority of the players engage X5 with Zero or Fourth Armor, the stage gets lackluster. Also, I dare to say that X5 is balanced around X, so I don't care to much with Zero playthroughs.
@@masterkuja9137 I had suspected that some sections were easier than they were probably intended because I mainly use the fourth armor.
Duff Mcwhalen will forever be the greatest boss name in Megaman
Hunter Rank:
X = Zero
B = MEH
Oh, X5. I know a lot of people blame X6's everything on Inafune having no involvement with the game, but he was almost as hands-off with X5, literally telling his team to make a game that would conclude the X series and leaving at that. The result is a game where it feels like the devs had no clear direction and just threw a bunch of ideas at the wall, none of which really stuck because they were all woefully undercooked. Let's all be honest, as bad as X6 and X7 are, and for as much squandered potential X8 had, if X5 had been the series' swan song, it still would've been a pretty sad note to go on.
Yeah X5 as well as X6 are the definition of deserved better. Capcom didn't help by putting these games on a damn time crunch.
X5 isn’t perfect but at least it’s… well… a complete and mostly well designed experience. Very impactful plot too.
It's a fine enough game, it doesn't do anything remotely offensive but it also doesn't do anything amazing, it certainly would've been a lame way to end the X series. It's just kind of average imo, easy 6/10 for me.
You're right, they're undercooked. That said, I think I would have enjoyed X5 more had the ending not be luck-based.
@@amso7169 Game design encompasses more than just stages, enemies and bosses. Other features like the part system, armor system, ranking system, and RNG-ending are all terribly designed and do dilute the experience.
Now we need: X's Zpetacular *BRUH* odyssey
I have seen it guessed that MMH is Master Maverick Hunter. And MEH is Master "They translated it to Irregular this one time and they didn't even spell it right." Hunter.
And I can't think of a better explanation, incompetent localisation and all.
My guess would be "E" for Extreme (which would be the first time they spell that one right instead of being cute with X-treme) or Extra (for extraordinary).
Given that there's a lot to be incompetent about in X5, but "i" and "eh" are *very* different syllables (and that's why Megamission can make an "iX/ikkusu" pun, the "i" of "irregular" combined with the "e" from "X"). The only way you can mistranslate THAT is if you can't even read the basic syllabary.
Finally. Someone who put some respek on the Duff!
The musical choices for Zero Virus Stage 3 is perfection.
MMH stands for Master Maverick Hunter
The fact that Dynamo is Jazzy 99?! Bruh. That’s only my fave track in existence! 🤣
Wait, Zero's Dash aura from Duff McWhale gives him invencibilty?!
How did i never knew that!?
X5 is a great game, really enjoyed my experience with it back in the day. It was fun to be able to change between X and Zero between stages for the first time as opposed to a temp upgrade (3) or play one for the whole playthrough (4). And the story is my favourite of the X/Zero series.
I agree with you, i like X5 to and the sound track is one of my favorites
Yeah, X5 is one of my favorites too.
Enjoyed the video, a few things:
1. I saw one instance of the zero buster being used which is different.
2. Awesome ost.
3.You probably made this look way easier than it actually is....
Is that Rondo of Blood music I hear on McWhalen's stage? A man of culture you are, sir.
God, not having anyone interrupting you in the middle of a mission is so good
DAT GAROU MUSIC ON MATTREX'S STAGE THO? A+. Bring on the new Garou bc it is _about damn time._ (Been getting more and more invested in the lore of the Garou/FF/AoF/KOF games... haven't actually played any yet tho but I might pick up KOF XV?)
That aside, I don't think I've actually seen this run before! Not as in like it's a new run, I know it's not, I just mean I haven't seen the original. Those Maverick descriptions are absolutely hilarious. And your gameplay is just incredible to watch as usual. Good shit.
Hey Magnus, how would you feel if Capcom were to remake X5 and X6? Do you think it would be a good idea? Also nice video!
They'd have to scrap everything and start from scratch because the games are fundamentally flawed. At that point, they're better off just making another X game instead of dwelling on the past.
@@MagnusZero Yeah, it's best to move forward and just leave X5 and X6 alone. Hopefully one day we get an X9 and hopefully Capcom learned from their mistakes.
@@MagnusZero In what regard are they fundamentally flawed? I think they could have been way better with a few more months of playtesting to get rid of a lot of bullshit like Duff McWhalen and Blaze Heatnix's stages, and some of the enemy placements
If only they continued Maverick Hunter X2-X6, as originally planned.
@@hessiankyojin Yeah if only that happened as well as the powered up games, we could've had remakes of the classic and X games. And they've could've fixed a lot of stuff.
When X5 it's your favorite X series game: FeelsBadMan
Nothing wrong with liking X5, or any game considered "bad." X5 and X6 are guilty pleasures of mine.
@@MagnusZero Yeah haha! Nice run like always, take care buddy!
Speaking of guilty pleasures, I actually kind of *like* X6 to a degree. I never really thought that it was that "bad". There's certainly worse video games!
@@co81385 Yeah that's true, also how don't love X6 with his sick music, the extremely broken Zero damage and the sick design of Shadow Armor X
@@elauditor1911 Those are some of the things that I like about it! I also really like the Blade Armor. I love how X's buster unfolds into the handle of a sword blade. I also love the green crystals on it.
Great run, Magnus. Love the X series.
Amazing music taste as always!
Sucks that the only armor (besides ultimate) that can charge special weapons is locked behind the character Selecet screen.
Also what the hell does the Gaia helmet do? Why is it useless,
You know, In both X5 and X6 there are palettes of Gaia and Shadow Armor having special weapons but they were never used, wonder why?
Good run, I just hate X5’s ranking system among other issues
@Dislikable and the RNG story
@@KyuJuEX099 I feel like if you beat all 8 mavericks you should have guaranteed chances of getting the good ending
How did you create the structure for the Zero Virus stages?
Was it from any official source or an assumption on how it would look like with the stages connecting?
this was great, do you plan on doing this for any of your other no damage runs?
49:18 It has been so long since I've played this game on hard that I forgot the green dudes were there lmao
4:16 Wasn't Irreconcilably also Bison's boss theme in Street Fighter EX Plus a?
Amazing music selection as always, Magnus.
How many Mega Man games you have played?
Female fan here! Is it me or do the Sigma virus heads have Anakin Skywalker hair from episode 3? This is therapeutic to watch please keep up the excellent content
THE LEGENDARY SPEEDO ONE
Very entertaining! I really appreciate the castlevania music haha
Now I want to know if it's even possible to get X to finish with MEH in the vanilla game
It's really, really difficult to just get one of them to MEH - anytime I've gone for that rank I've done it with both hunters because there is a very specific route that makes it possible and optimizes for their capabilities. (Or at least, is not absolutely detrimental given each of their strengths and weaknesses.)
The ranking system is the worst they've put in any Mega Man game, bar none - and it's absolutely baffling how it was THIS bad considering that it should have been obvious it needed to be dropped or heavily reworked when several of the stages had impossible criteria for achieving higher ranks.
@@AwakenedPhoenix309 It's definitely bad but it's somewhat inoffensive since Rank doesn't do anything
@@shinysamurott613 It does influence the difficulty of bosses and how many hours need to pass before you can earn parts.
That's if I remember correctly. So many of these systems are poorly implemented and not explained at all.
It bugs the hell out of me because I LIKE a well-done ranking system. I WANT the system in X5 to work properly. It sucks a lot of the enjoyment out of the game for me to know that having an MEH ranking on both characters at the end of the game is more a testament to my ability to follow a very specific route than it is my actual skill.
There's a lot of reasons X5 isn't as satisfying to master as the other games - this is like the kick to the nuts after the game took a baseball bat to your knees. Just absolutely baffling.
@@AwakenedPhoenix309 How does the ranking even work in X5, it seems extremely vague.
@@shinysamurott613 For starters - the time you need to clear in order to rank up or maintain your rank is constant across ALL stages. So to get maximum points in the time category, you need to finish the stage in around a minute - which is impossible to do on many stages, and you're guaranteed to get a crappy score for time in stages like Tidal Whale.
I believe you lose points for killing too many enemies, which goes exactly counter to how you'd expect the system to work.
Holding onto your current rank is easier than getting it was, so you have to plan your route around that when going for MEH rank.
Long and short of it - it's needlessly complicated and completely counterintuitive.
As for boss level - I've played the game more than a dozen times since it first came out and I'm still not 100% what determines that. I only know I can get the boss level where I need it to be to get the maximum number of parts you can attain in a run by seppuking away 6-8 hours.
I didn't even know X5 had any rank beyond GA or whatever it was called.
Also holy fuck this game sucks, how this came right after X4 is beyond my understanding.
I get the feeling that x5 may possibly have some potential issues.
Clearly we need the ranking system to be worse. That will improve the game.
Why ur gameplay look so fast, only x5(i play in legacy collection) when I play both X and zero run and attack, its so slow than x6 and x4
I learned a lot of skill or move set skill to help me master frames and dodging damage outputs
51:35 wait, why is Zero holding his chest with full HP?
Hey Magnus, how about making a video of your video making process, I still want to know how do you use custom soundtracks while still letting the sound effects loud. I don't know many gametubers but you're the only one who loves adding custom soundtracks to your games (and I love it)
First you then X Maverick Hunter uploaded back-to-back. Damn son, Mega May came early this season.
EDIT: I really thought this was XMH who uploaded this at first when I saw it in the Subscriptions tab. lol
enable the video-subtitles please
Yo why there so much Castle music here tho
M.E.H: Mastery Excelency Hunter
Ily magnus
I actually think X6's max rank "Ultimate Hunter" is funnier.
Yeah since it only needs you to collect max souls and your actual performance on stages does not matter at all.
JAZZY NYC for DYNAMO???
Somebody cooked here.
Nice gamplay. So sick.
Just so you know, Grizzly also has the right to arm bears.
next challenge for X5 - X & Zero MEH rank
5:58 Step-Zero help! I'm stuck inside solid rock!
Man, i've quit playing X5 after finish it with X/Fourth/Falcon/Gaia/Zero cause how boredom the game is, ngl the game is fun but the game just somehow slow as heck when you do a 100%, it's a lot o fun when ya skip most of the collectables but that ain't how i play this game so yeah
Now do it with Buster only
ok, i didn't think i was the first
X5 always seemed so unpolished compared to X4.
Also pretty cheap, with it's lack of animation on bosses, a worse X buster charging animation and a PNG as the final boss.
And obiously the lack of animated cutscenes.
meh describes megaman x5 perfectly. In several ways I think its actually worse than x6.
What i like bout u is that u don't glitch the zero sword, makes the run more Nice to see like pure skill u know
Also nice moves there
20:50 3edgy5me dialogue
MEH/MMH may stand for "Mega Erregular Hunter"/"Mega Maverick Hunter" where the e is a mistake on the part of the japanese staff.(source:mmkb)
I only got that rank once on rookie hunter mode.
Only of DMC 2 in intro stage represent so much megaman x5 for me.(comparing the lack of quality of the two)
Bre fighting dynamo with jazzy nyc '99 playing in the background is weirdly goofy to me
Hello
12:28 I hate you so much lmaooo. He’s a warrior
This ranking system is so ass backwards. I mean, whhy the fuck they thougth reaching a determined tine in each friggin stage to be fun or rewarding ? The bad thing is, they dont even reward you for getting a high rank. Making it almost useless in this game ( still llike X5, though...)
22:55 Too hot to handle
Tbh mmx5 is pretty meh
Tbh X5 is prerrt great.
God X5
could've been such a great game. But fumbled
It is a great game.
Id go as far as to say x7 is better than x5
Nah X5 is miles better than X7.
It's not even fair to compare them. One was just a cluster of badly executed ideas (X5) that still played like an X game at the end of the day, while the other is a slow, clunky transition to 3D that failed on nearly all fronts aside from the soundtrack (X7). I'd rather play a broken mess than a boring mess.
X series clearly the worst in the franchise As well a X Dive don't see why either have fans or stans, there are much better sidescrollers out their the Zero series and ZX and ZXA for example blow this shit out the water in terms of story gameplay, art direction , presentation music every facet you can think of the X series is unnojectionably the worst/most inconsistent in the franchise.
stupid game but i at least was able to stomach playing the whole thing and had fun at a few parts, which i can't say for x6 and x7
i swear i was subscribed to u but yt unsubbed me for some reason, subbing again