The Doctor’s Timeline of Regenerations | Doctor Who
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- The order is decided by the official designations, the Fugitive Doctor is placed where The Timeless Children line up suggests and Matt Smith is the 11th Doctor and 13th incarnation according to Steven Moffat.
The Doctor
Timeless Cycle:
1: Timeless Child I
2: Timeless Child II
3: Timeless Child III
4: Timeless Child IV
5: Timeless Child V
6: Timeless Child VI
7: Timeless Child VII
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? - Mindbend Doctor I
? - Mindbend Doctor II
? - Mindbend Doctor III
? - Mindbend Doctor IV
? - Mindbend Doctor V
? - Mindbend Doctor VI
? - Mindbend Doctor VII
? - Mindbend Doctor VIII
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? - Fugitive Doctor
Cycle 1:
1: First Doctor
2: Second Doctor
3: Third Doctor
4: Fourth Doctor
5: Fifth Doctor
6: Sixth Doctor
7: Seventh Doctor
8: Eighth Doctor
9: War Doctor
10: Ninth Doctor
11: Tenth Doctor
- 11: Meta-Crisis Doctor
12: Tenth Doctor
13: Eleventh Doctor
Cycle 2:
14: Twelfth Doctor
15: Thirteenth Doctor
- 16: Master-Doctor
16: Fourteenth Doctor
17: Fifteenth Doctor
Future:
? - The Curator
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Great compilation 👍👍. The inclusion of branched timelines was a pleasant (albeit mind bending) surprise to see included.
Never fails to make me chuckle that in both "timelines" the 13th Doctor is a woman! The universe really is surprising! Just brilliant.
Even better, I think that was Steven Moffat wrote that. And it's an official BBC production...
Maybe she hooked up with someone offscreen
The irony that the thirteenth Doctor in 2 timelines was a blonde Woman
Yeah, but technically in the main timeline the Thirteenth Doctor was Matt Smith
How is that irony? It's more of a coincidence, which is the furthest thing from irony.
@@pakimonsas War Doctor didn't consider himself the doctor and the Meta-Crisis Doctor was created due to a botched regeneration
I love how the mindbend doctors all agreed that “16th century explorer” was the ideal aesthetic
Probably had better control of their regeneration than they do now
Another reason why they logically should be (and are) the other regenerations of Morbius
thomas_vd it was a mental battle, the images were in a different colour and morbius was a time lord too. Ik the writers wanted it to be the doctor but there’s a reason that twist got dropped and left for literal decades. Besides it’s cooler seeing what this Frankenstein’s monster of a time lord used to look like
I feel called out, that's a cool kind of aesthetic 😂😂😂
I personally think the Fugitive Doctor is before the Morbius Doctors because the Morbius Doctors go directly into the 1st so it just makes more sense to me
I feel like Fugitive Doctor is between 2 and 3.
@@AspelShuyinWhy? She's works for Division.
@@Hilda_ogden you mean like the second doctor?
@@AspelShuyin that's wrong
@@Hilda_ogdenDivision could have used the Timeless Child originally, then wiped thier memory. They could have rehired the Doctor again in between 2 and 3, because they were desperate, then erased her memories again and thew him out as the 3rd Doctor later.
I love that you made Curse of Fatal Death "Timeline 1", makes it seem like that's the prime timeline, and the whole of the new series is an offshoot😂
Probably for the best, curse of fatal death seems better than recent episodes
Seeing the Doctor regenerate over and over again to Gimmee Gimmee Gimmee was something I didn't know i needed
Doctor Who needs more Abba honestly
This video FINALLY explained the timeless child to me in a way i could understand
Techtaeun used the timeless child to edit the genome of the Gallifreyans allowing them to have 13 incarnations
Then when the timeless child grew up into the doctor they joined the division and where Chameleon Arched from their original specied
to a Gallifreyian MEANING that the doctor we knew before the timeless child story was actually NOT reconned at all especially since the thirteenth doctor did not open the chameleon arch at the end of the story
Exactly!
Hmm. Tbh I didn’t actually think about it that way until 4 years after the episode ended. It still bothers me that the Doctor supposedly is the bases for all time lords and I don’t think that’ll ever change, but it makes it a bit better knowing that the Doctor is biologically a time lord
Hooray someone who gets it.
Though I don't blame people for not.
Oh thank god
Still time lord is a title they must obtain, not every gallyfreyan is a time lord, it requeirs a lot of knowledge @@kobeangelesd
Given the Fugitive Doctor had a police box Tardis, some believe she came between 2nd and 3rd Doctors
I think there are two others answers : 1 - Ruth's Tardis happens to land in the 60s before she goes into hiding ; taking on a Police Box form and therefore it is a coincidence / 2 - The 1st Doctor unknowingly stole his own division Tardis, that had been reset like him, but her true nature showed by taking once again the form of a police box. / I think the answer is that like the pre-Hartnell Doctors used the same Tardis, and they share a special bond. (Also the TARDIS is not affected by time and knows about the future, it could have retroactively taken on the familiar form of the police box even before An Unearthly Child)
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Or... she came later.
I agree with this that after war games, the dr becomes an agent for the time lords.
I wonder if the Watcher was a Bigeneration. The myth had to come from somewhere.
My guess was an older reconstituted version of the flesh doctor
My theory is that The Watcher was from between two incarnations. The Whoniverse is a great big one so a Watcher-assisted regeneration could've happened before but just unseen
No, though still interesting. The Watcher was a projection of The Doctor’s next regeneration, summoned early to help out. Another Time Lord, Kanpo Rimpoche, pulled off the same trick, but much cleaner. Kanpo projected his next incarnation outwards, allowing him to have an assistant, Choji. When Kanpo regenerated, he became Choji, merging back together, like Tom Baker and The Watcher.
@@animeguardianxx I think the watcher is sentient regeneration energy. Time Lords in the novels are described as having one each.
@@umitencho Maybe. Kanpo Rimpoche was also a time lord called The Hermit. He had very good control of his regeneration and was a childhood teacher to The Doctor. The fact that Tom, the regeneration that was helped by Kimpoche, was the one to use, could indicate that Kimpoche gave him the power as a gift. The Hermet had helped Pertwee regenerate.
This is soo good! I have some really fond memories of all the modern doctors but I also love the classic fourth, seventh and eighth doctors too! Loved this! 😊😊
One question:
3:40 ... has it ever actively been confirmed, that the Doctor's second regeneration cycle specifecly includes twelve regenerations?
When Rassilon asks the Twelfth Doctor as how many regenerations they gave him, he didn't actually answer.
(Thus, Chibnall didn't even have to do the infinite-regenerations-thing to begin with ... )
Kill the Moon and Hell Bent do both imply he could have more than 12. It’s deliberately vague so future showrunners don’t have to do a story of him getting more lives.😀
Mywdryn Undead. Mywdryn needs the Doctor's remaining regenerations so they can die.
The Fifth Doctor says to Tegan: "Don't you see? Eight of them, eight of me."
Tegan: "They want to take your remaining regenerations?"
@@TimeLady8That’s from the first cycle (12 regens, 13 incarnations). This chain is about the second cycle. (12th Doctor and later).
I think it was The Deadly Assassin that first confirmed it when they explained why the Master was dying.
@@joelmole3157 I don't think they gave a number in Deadly Assassin, just that he had come to the end of the cycle. Then later, in The Five Doctors, they offer him a whole new regenerative cycle.
I think the post-bigeneration 14th Doctor was the one who went on to become The Curator played by Tom Baker in The Day Of The Doctor. Makes sense considering 14 decided to settle down with Donna’s family and retire while 15 went off into time and space.
Nice to see Shalka and Fatal Death get some love.
I'd love Big Finish to do something with those timelines. Maybe a continuation of Shalka and a Red Nose Day Five Doctor's parody for Fatal Death (it could also make a good TV skit too).
It's based on a novel called "The Tomorrow Windows" where the Eighth Doctor gets glimpses of three possible futures, seeing the faces of Christopher Eccleston, Rowan Atkinson and Richard E. Grant.
Absolutely splendid work. So much thought put into creating order out of the complexity that is the Doctor’s life.
Thanks 🙏
Remember when the numbers actually had meaning…me neither.
The numbers did have meaning until the 10th doctor regenerated into a same face. At that point, all bets were off.
After that, you got the war doctor. and then once those floodgates were open, you got the fugitive.,
@@TateAndLeoStudio Have ye forgotten Mr.War McDoctor?
Since we're counting the Curator, i think its fair to maybe include Dr. Moon from Silence of the Library since Russel T Davies and Steven Moffat thought of the idea. Also, as a reminder, Doctor Moon would also be the 45th doctor. 😂😅
I thought Moon was just a program
Can you explain further? When was it implied that doctor moon was anything more than a computer program?
In Doctor Who Magazine 551, an article called 'Showrunner Showdown' had Russel T Davies and Steven Moffat interviewing each other about Doctor Who and their work.
During the introduction, Davies reminded Moffat about "when we were making Silence in the Librabry, Moffat once told Davies the Very Last Scene Ever of Doctor Who."
This prompted Moffat to dig up the email Davies was remembering, which he revealed that the mind of Doctor Moon was secretly that of a future incarnation of the Doctor who'd gone back in Time and uploaded himself into the Library so that River wouldn't be lonely.
By the time we get to the 45th Doctor the actor is gonna be dead haha
@@tableprinterdoorbut with AI of the time that won't be an issue
There's also a timeline or 2 where Paul McGann regerated straight into Eccleston. Off screen though so I suppose it would count in your video.
Originally, that was going to be "our timeline", the one we watch in show, and would have been had Eccleston agreed to return for Day of the Doctor. RTD's original vision was that The Ninth Doctor was the one who fought the Time War, that's why he was so bitter and distant in Series 1 until Rose softened him up. But Eccleston didn't like how 9 was written in the script, it was a lot of "You're not the Doctor, I'M The Doctor" stuff from him, sort of like how 1 is characterized in Twice Upon a Time. When Eccleston refused to do the 50th, they had to come up with John Hurt's War Doctor to slot between 8 and 9....(Personally, I think they should have just gotten McGann to reprise his role as the Eighth Doctor for the 50th and have HIM be the Time War Doctor, would have been so much better, especially as he's so full of hope in the TV Movie, to see that same Doctor become "The Oncoming Storm" of legend would be amazing)
@@HylianKnight02pretty sure they wanted to get McGann but the BBC declined it for an unknown reason.
"I know that in DWM or something Moffat said "he personally didn't believe 8 could have pushed the button" but I think that was a nice bit of PR as to not throw the BBC under the bus. In this interview he says that Eccleston said no to returning and so he asks if it could be another Doctor which the BBC declined. And he's very quick to defend the BBC's decision which again seems to me like trying not to throw them under the bus. It sounds to me like it was the BBC who shot down the idea of any previous Doctor, McGann included returning.
Then he goes on to say how he suggested a secret incarnation played by a very famous actor and how he immediately thought that was an awful idea and would have ruined the numbering and everything, but the BBC executives loved it. So I personally believe that Christopher Eccleston was plan A - shot down by Chris himself, Paul McGann was plan B and another Classic Doctor was plan C - both shot down by the BBC, and a secret Doctor was plan D. So given the circumstances I think Moffat did the best to please everyone with what he was given (And I am sure he pulled every string he had to get a McGann minisode and a Tom Baker cameo)."
They definitely should have got Mcgann back to fill that role because we only got the tv move from him if you don't count the big Finnish stuff.
I've warmed up to the Timeless Children idea for a bit now. The addition of the Shalka Doctor in the actual show made me realise what the Toymaker meant by making a puzzle out of the Doctor's past. I think it's a way from the show to tell us that we don't have to take it for granted, and gather up the puzzle pieces we as viewers personally see fit. Like, if you don't like the Timeless Child, you can think of it as the Master's lie, and if you do, then you can add whatever you want in the mix.
My personal opinion will forever be that Hartnell was the 1st Doctor, in and out of universe. Fugitive can be from a split timeline, or between 2 and 3, I don't mind that one bit. That would require for the Meta Crisis regeneration not to count, which I see being plausible. 11 on Trenzalore realising that he couldn't regenerate, and then thinking back onto it, and coming to the conclusion that it must have been it. Or then just have the Time Lords give them an extra regeneration to hide the gap in the timeline. All goes in this puzzle.
Shalka I wanna include as well, a part of me hopes that he will be the 16th Doctor. Richard E. Grant is still in enough that he came for a photoshoot, as the picture used of him was a fresh one. But for now I think he's from the Ruth timeline.
Shout out to 4 and 13 (15), taking it outside of the tardis, knowing full well it was going to happen.
Between the 12th and final regeneration can be anyone, anytime now.
The 12th regeneration after the first Timeless Children
I wouldn't count the Tenth Doctor as 2 separate incarnations, as you yourself specified, he healed the body and stored the rest of the energy that would have changed the incarnation into his hand, but that is up to each one of us' interpretation.
Apart from that, really great video, nice that you included the other timelines as well.
www.digitalspy.com/tv/cult/a536819/doctor-who-matt-smith-is-the-13th-doctor-says-steven-moffat/
Moffat retcons if so the Tenth Doctor is one Doctor in incarnation 11 and 12. So while it’s one Doctor. It takes up two spaces in the cycle. Moffat even says Smith is the 13th incarnation in this article. Also the line “thirteen silly Doctors” is said in the episode. 😀
@CultOfThirteen I feel like Moffat's explanation is an oversimplification for the casual viewer to understand what is going on and because people often overlap the terms incarnation and regeneration, whilst I agree there were 12 regenerations and 10 did regenerate in The Stolen Earth, I do not agree that he is two different incarnations.
Besides, if we take into account BTS stuff, you should also take into account RTD's comments that every Doctor bigenerated.
The 13 silly Doctors line is also an oversimplification and a reiteration to the rule.
But again, I don't think it's a set in stone thing and is open to interpretation, as I said in my first comment.
If we are doing an analogy with the U.S. presidents, if Joe Biden is reelected this year he won't be the 47th president, he will still be the 46th, but if he loses and he is reelected in 2028, he will be the 48th, similarly to Tennant's 10 and 14 Doctors.
Besides, we're overlooking the most obvious evidence, that he isn't called the Eleventh Doctor post The Stolen Earth.
He did not number his War incarnation because he wasn't considering himself the Doctor at that time, but surely he would have counted 10 as 11 because he wasn't ashamed with that particular incarnotion.
Just my two cents.
For the Fugitive Dr to make sense, she needs to be between troughton and pertwee. A forced regeneration and mindswipe by the Timelords during the War Games leading to her working for them. Then turned to Pertwee and exiled on earth. This is the only explanation for not having a sonic, still having the original design Tardis and not recognising Whittaker
Great video, always glad to see someone label 10 after journeys end as the 12th incarnation and not the metacrisis Doctor as the 12th. Just one question, wouldn’t the fugitive Doctor be before the morbius doctors, because in brain of morbius it’s working backwards, so presumably seeing she didn’t show up then, she’s somewhere between the last timeless child and the first morbius Doctor.
We decided to go with the line up shown in the Series 12 finale, but there’s no definitive order so either is okay.
I love how 8 is where the regenerations get all tangled up
I think that Ruth is a doctor from either the fatal death or shalka timeline. Maybe she popped into our reality during series 2. That’s why she doesn’t know 13 or the time war.
Just goes to show that even regeneration isn't a strict progression of cause to effect... (you all know the rest!)
Imagine showing this to someone new to Doctor Who
I bet if the 15th Doctor took his my heritage DNA test his past ancestry would be huge and very very long.
Great vid
You know... The Master Doctor never settled as a permanent regeneration, but he did use up a whole regeneration to turn into The Master, the energy from the cyberman managed to reverse the damage and prevent further use of regeneration energy
Ooh this should be interesting. I wonder if Brendon was included. I worked on something similar earlier, but the number to memory wipe ratio doesn't QUITE add up.
1: ???(Timeless Children)
2: ???(Timeless Children)
3: Grace Nettle
4: Leo Tang
5: Jac Jones
6: ???(Timeless Children)
7: Jesse Deyi
8; Peter Cushing(The Other)
9: Tom Baker(the Other)
10: Matt Smith(the Other)
11: Sylvester McCoy(the Other)
12: William Hartnel(the Other)
13: Nicolas Briggs(the Relic)
14: Rowan Atkinson
15: Richard E. Grant(Curse)
16: Jim Broadbent
17: Hugh Grant
18: Joanna Lumley
19: Richard E. Grant(Shalka)
20: Jo Martin
21: Evan McCabe
22: Christopher Barry
23: Robert Banks Stewart
24: Philip Hinchcliffe
25: Douglas Camfield
26: Graeme Harper
27: Robert Holmes
28: George Gallacio
29: William Hartnell
30: Patrick Troughton
31: Jon Pertwee
32: Tom Baker
33: Peter Davison
34: Colin Baker
35: Sylvester McCoy
36: Paul McGann
37: John Hurt
38: Christopher Eccleston
39: David Tennant
40: David Tennant
41: Matt Smith
41 Dead Trenzalore Timeline: The Valeyard
42: Peter Capaldi
43: Jodie Whittaker
44: Sacha Dhawan
45: Jodie Whittaker
46; David Tennant
47: Ncuti Gatwa
???: Merlin(Battlefield)
???: Tom Baker(Curator)
???: Colin Baker (Curator)
???: Colin Salmon(Dr.Moon)
I actually believe the Fugitive Doctor precedes the Morbius Doctors since we never saw this Doctor in the mindbending scene in The Brain Of Morbius.
Thank you for including the Valeyard, he often gets overlooked. And I forgot about the Curator. 😅
I saw a theory that fugitive is between 2 and 3 because we didnt actually see him regenerate and then we see pertwee fall out the tardis, so a theory could be the timelords wiped his memory after that and granted him an extra regeneration therefore the “lives count” would stay the same
But you do see three fall out of the Tardis with two’s clothes on
@@CultOfThirteen Perhaps they could've made the doctor get back in the clothes prior to wiping her memories? i dont know it's just a theory i saw somewhere! Pretty cool headcanon though to makeup for the inconcistencies
@@jbxss2023 I'm certainly a big proponent of 'Season 6B' (The Five Doctors, The Two Doctors, Players, World Game, etc.) but I don't see the Fugitive Doctor having any part in it.
Finally a complete list. Thank you.
This is actually super cool!
I don't think we truly ever seen his first incarnation we don't know if the little girl already regenerated before
Nice work including the comic relief doctors also, the amount of times I had to correct people that Joanna Lumley was the first female to play the doctor!
Dr. Who at the end isn't in another universe according to The Day of the Doctor's novelisation, also the Curator is implied to be a future version but it isn't confirmed. Otherwise great!
There are expanded media stories that have outright confirmed The Curator as a future Doctor. The Then and the Now comic initially.
Also there is a Doctor Who short story that suggest Dr. Who is an alternative universe, but you’re right to say Moffat believes it to be a fictional telling in universe though.
@@CultOfThirteen I don't trust the titan comics as canon material, really. Even if they don't conflict with canon now, they likely will eventually (e.g. if they ever bring sutekh back)
Well, look at you, cleverly calling twists months before they happen! If I could hand you a Jelly Baby through the screen, I would!
@@sheridan5175well well well
@@sheridan5175 well well well
BRUH this is the first I'm hearing of the chameleon circuit being on THIS WHOLE TIME????
My theory is that the curator is the 4th Doctor but in a timeline where he didnt regeneration like in tales of the Tardis 5th 6th 7th never regenerate they just aged it makes sense
Nice video, although at some points things are flashing by too quickly to read
Well done. ❤❤
I personally like to think that The Curator is a regenerated version of the Bigenerated 14th Doctor. After the Nobles are gone he moves on and retires with a different old face.
Bad news about the timeline of events here-
that thumbnail with the Master-Doctor is too damn BLURSED 😂🤣
I enjoyed this. Cheers
Except that the 1960s movie Doctor (Peter Cushing) was expressly stated to be a human inventor who built the TARDIS, if I'm remembering correctly
So we're on the Doctor's 42nd Incarnation(yes, I count Brandon as an incarnation)
For the Timeless Child and Mindbend it would have been 12 incarnations for each and the Fugitive Doctor would have been part of those cycles. The Doctor got a new cycle in his actual Doctor regenerations so Ncuti’s Doctor would have been the 40th Doctor including War in the main timeline.
I think it was said that when the time lords reverse-engineered regeneration from the timeless child, they limited it to 12 regenerations intentionally. So the timeless child could have regenerated infinitely, until Division turned the doctor into an actual time lord with the chameleon arch.
I think that Rowan Atkinson was actually good as the Doctor. I know that his special featured an alien language conducted through farting, but I think he was quite convincing.
i personally think the curator is the fourteenth doctor's regeneration after the bi-generation
That could be cool
That or we can take a darker path and say 14 becomes the Valeyard.
What if the curator and the Valeyard bigenerated from the same doctor?
@@tableprinterdoor :0
It's kind of vague but I think the consensus is that eventually, after retiring on earth with the Nobles, Fourteen regenerates naturally, returning to the moment of the Bigeneration as Fifteen.
perfection !
I always hate when the Doctor regenerates.
If you ever update this, you should include Dr Moon from SITL/FOTD as the 45th doctor lol
Loved it! Still, maybe needs Lenny Henry and Lily Savage! Also Doctor Eyes?
The curator might not be a regeneration, he could be like Commander Maxil or Caecilius, somebody whose likeness was duplicated during a regeneration, and who was employed by Unit so he can pretend to be the Doctor in case something happens.
The scene itself, Steven Moffat and expanded media all confirm that The Curator is The Doctor
Im confused on the timelines. How does this work? AND WHERE IS THE ONE WHERE THE LEMONS ARE ALL POWERFULL!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!??!??!?!?!???
You forgot Dr Moon. He's supposed to be the last Dr. EVER.
Haha I was waiting for the Valeyard
Only thing missing is the Unbound Doctor I think, and 6th Doctor Curator
Thanks for noticing, but we were only doing on screen Doctors to make things a little easier 😄
This definitely needs updating.
Ok your fine 2:14
Is it bad I would take the curse of the fatal death as canon before I'd take the timeless child? Not least of all because better writer
It's not a bad take. I personally don't care about the timeless child reveal, but I think the episode itself is awful.
I love the ABBA soundtrack in the background
came here after the rogue episode bit lost because theres one odd face they showed weve never seen
The face in rogue is The Shalka Doctor, from the 2003 special “Scream of the Shalka” featured in this video in after The Eighth Doctor in timeline 2 😊
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I’m not really a math guy how many times is that in total?
So the Doctor regenerated at least 16 times in the Timeless era, 17 regenerations since 1 one of which was reversed and once at some point into the Curator.
So at least 34 times.
Shalka doctor is ‘canon’ now I guess! 😅 (whatever ‘canon’ means in doctor who!)
2:05 No this is wrong because that incarnation isn’t apart of the show and also after 8th Doctor it’s the war Doctor then 9th
War Doctor after 9 is depicted in the video under timeline 3, timeline 1 and timeline 2 depict other 9th doctors that were originally intended to follow on from 8. The BBC has never declared anything non-canon, and Steven Moffat himself said he counts The Curse of Fatal Death, additionally, Paul Cornell also counts The Scream of the Shalka as an unbound timeline. So I’m going to go by the writers intentions and not fans who still incorrectly claim that some stories are non canon.
"... that incarnation isn’t apart of the show..."
Says who?
You forgot Dr moon as 45th doctor
i dont understand the timeline thing, why are there multiple timelines?
It has been due to retcons of multiple episodes
You forgot “Let’s Kill Hitler” when River Song Used her regenerations to make the Doctor Regenerate without changing his face like stolen Earth/Journey’s End.
Brendan, The Irish Doctor policeman was a "whitewash" of The Timeless Children all the way to the Fugitive Doctor's life that was placed in the Matrix.
Also, The Toymaker caused all this. He made The Doctor's life a jigsaw puzzle
What about the Unbound Doctors? 😛
Man, no Lenny Henry!
Original Fivey at 0:30 is cutie 😂 better looking than actual Fivey and I’d like him as an actual doctor/companion or even as my husband Luvic 😮
Hopefully neither metacrisis or 14 end up the Valeyard.
What about dr moon? he's supposed to be the 45th doctor
name the song ??
grandioso video compa
Gimme Gimme Gimme (A Man After Midnight) (Instrumental) - ABBA
@@CultOfThirteen thx :)
The fugitive doctor can't be before 1 though since her tardis also looks like a police box
It’s a continuity error definitely, but she’s confirmed to be pre First Doctor.
You forgot Matt smith getting shot by the astronaut
True, but since it was the Teselecta faking a regeneration, rather than a regeneration that counted I omitted it.
@CultOfThirteen Timelords can trigger a 13th regeneration (that doesn't work), so that could work as an explanation.
I loved Jodie Whittaker doctor and I have so many decent memories of her
Rip now that shalka is canon
The timeless child might not be the original it's assumed the child is remember the war Doctor appeared after Nine.
Few ideas, but very confused. 😂
Thank you 4:49
The whole regenerations in NuWho is a total mess the showrunners and writers really screwed the numbers up and creating these unknown Doctors that no one asked for before Hartnell is totally disrespectful to his memory its been stated very heavily in "Mawdryn Undead" and "The Five Doctors" that the First Doctor is the original and there were no others before those faces shown in "The Brain of Morbius" are Morbius even The Seventh Doctor calls himself the seventh twice and The Eleventh Doctor refers to himself as 11 atleast that was before Moffat did his emergency rewrite for the 50th and didn't think things through.
Paul McGann should had been in the 50th and be the one to change into Christopher Eccleston theyve really gone too far with wrecking established canon its becoming fanfiction.
The Fugitive Doctor can't possibly take place before Hartnell because her TARDIS is a Police Box and she can't take place between 2 and 3 because hes already been through 13 regenerations in his first life cycle plus she doesn't know what a sonic screwdriver is plus The Third Doctor was in the Second Doctor's clothes it would make 10 times more sense if she took place into the future which im still sticking with that theory but also the fact Chibnall didn't think things through.
Chibnall might had increased this but Moffat started this mess.
This is very silly.
Philip Hinchcliffe has stated very openly that those 8 faces in The Brain of Morbius were the Doctor. In fact those faces are said to be the Doctor in the story. The outcome of the Mindbend only works if they’re the Doctor.
Yes many stories have said the First Doctor is the first, but they would since it’s established the Doctor doesn’t remember anything before 1 because of the mindwipe and the chameleon arch.
Moffat wanted Eccleston in the 50th. He said no. Moffat then wanted McGann. The BBC said no. The Fugitive Doctor is intended to be pre Hartnell and the reason for the police box a mystery.
“Moffat started this mess”. All he did was add a war incarnation and confirm that the first Tennant regeneration counted.
Can we just not count anything before hartnell
I’m afraid not since pre-Hartnell doctors are canon
What about when the dr was a police man and there was the dr Donna
I think the Ruth Doctor is 2B.
Aaaaaaaand it's completely funked. Shalka etc etc etc
And apparently Dr who is an human AU 😂
Ого 😯
bruh not you counting The Curse of Fatal Death
bruh not you not counting The Curse of Fatal Death
That other 13th Doctor ( Timeline 1 ) looks like Jodie Whittaker but no!😂 Who is her?
Joanna Lumley who plays the thirteenth doctor in The Curse of Fatal Death
Excellent video, but god do i still hate the inclusion of the Timeless Child making the Doctor an infinite god that fights for the justice of the timeline-or whatever. Completely contradicts the core themes of the show, kills stakes, and makes every incarnation of the doctor just a little less significant.
I think the 14th doctor Regenerates into the fugitive doctor, then the curator. Just a theory
The 14th doctor would end up regenerating properly into 15 (Ncuti gatwa)
If she were then she would have recognised thirteen
The fugitive doctor is highly implied to be before hartnell
@Ragingalcholic I think it's pretty clear the 14th Doctor (David Tennant) will regenerate into the 15th Doctor (Ncuti Gatwa) since he mentions about being Time Lords and doing rehab out of order further implying the 14th Doctor will get better when he becomes him.
You forgot that capaldi started to regenerate and then canceled the regeneration
When?
@@cameronbaker97 i think he means The Lie of the Land, though that's explicitly confirmed to be a fake show, the same way the Teselecta also projected regen energy at lake silencio when 11th shouldn't have been able to.
@heathbaum That wasn't a real regeneration that was fake it does not count.