Genesis P-Orridge Rates Action Bronson, Los Angeles, and Circumcision | Over/Under | Pitchfork
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Genesis P-Orridge Rates Action Bronson, Los Angeles, and Circumcision | Over/Under | Pitchfork - เพลง
the fact that genesis even has an opinion on action bronson is the funniest part to me
the trans community hates him so of course gen does too even though gens not really trans just a narcissist.
Alex Trihawk is he transphobic or something? I’m assuming that’s why, but I also don’t want to just assume. I’ve just never heard this before.
Was Genesis a bit of a narcissist? Sure, but I think that comes with a lot of artists I’ve known, and it particularly seems to come with the famous/revered ones... at least their art was actually worth the reverence, though! RIP♾
Alex Trihawk why does the trans community hate him?
@@nikolademitri731 we all have a little narcissist in us all. speaking of the collective we, not just myself! and i totally agree with you about artists. they almost have to be a bit narcissist, especially about their art, or nobody would notice them.
I think he's just obnoxious to some people. I can't stand that show where he eats too. Good rapper though
R.I.P. Genesis P-Orridge
Dave Buco shut up don’t scare me
@@matthewevans3718 Sadly it's true. Genesis succumbed to leukemia on March 14, 2020 in New York city @ the age of 70.
Saint Martins oh my god
Dave Buco A powerful and beautiful spirit rides through the infinite night. Requiescat in pace.
@@matthewevans3718 remember, Gen believed that every sound you hear around you can be a song, or part of a song. This is a truth that, if you let it, will create a new song every time you listen, and it is this process that allows h/er to, not only live on, but to create a lifetime of original songs just for you.
That story about John Waters licking their teeth just warmed my heart.
The world is poorer. Sleep easy you legend.
"We were working with Love and Rockets in Harry Houdini's old mansion"
That's just awesome.
I used to drive down Laurel Canyon road frequently, I know exactly where that is.
Love them both, crazy awesome times
I know where that is but it really isn’t LA.
@HALF MT
Are you not entertained?
@HALF MT "freemasons" but we all know Just Exactly Who they really are.
Throbbing gristle will always remain an important band in modern music history. Such an absolute legend. Rest in peace.
For the record, this is the first over/under I can recall where the participant actually tried to, for the most part, say if something was over or underrated rather than just saying whether or not they liked said thing. Which doesn't surprise me given who they are.
Joseph Sedita watch Earl Sweatshirt, my man tried so hard to find out if things were over or underrated
Earl's was pretty good, but this is definitely more involved.
Forest Cochran but he said this is the first time someone tries to rate things
Julien Roy Earl and Gen both are/were really smart, strange, intense people. It doesn't surprise me they're the two to take this segment the most seriously.
Danny Brown is another one who actually tried to rate them, and his is probably my favorite
> *Throbbing Gristle* 1977-2009 (1st band)
> *Psychic TV* 1982-2016 (2nd band)
> *Puppy Gristle* (aka Skinny Puppy's - puppy gristle ep) 2002 (a 1993 improvational collaboration between cKevin Key, Nivek Ogre & Genesis P-Orange)
> *Pigface* 1991-2009 (side project - various collaboration w/ members of Skinny Puppy, Ministry, P.I.L., Pixies, Big Black, Severed Heads, Einsturzende Neubauten, Shonen Knife, Dead Kennedys, My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult, Frontline Assembly, Nine Inch nails)
What a life!
Started with COUM transmissions!!
props to genesis for keeping up with calling themselves "we", even if they slip up sometimes. that takes real dedication
it's... precious
Why we though and not I?
@@dominicaaaaa5547 to keep Lady Jaye's memory alive. It's very sweet.
@@lcraw4628 ah well hopefully they are together again now if there is an afterlife which there probs isn't lol and harsh coitus lol
@@lcraw4628
That's interesting.
I thought it was some liberal "non-binary" reference to him/herself.
An absolute genius who will be missed dearly, may they rest in power.
i love how genesis is fully at the roots of the experimental electronic underground and their main response to EDM is '...pass'. that's spot on. like, extremely recent styles like big room or riddim or...jungle terror or whatever are the main front of this weird style of cleaned up minimalism. and a response like that sums it all up perfectly from the perspective of a pioneer. gr8 episode
couldn't even dignify the question with a response says it all
RIP Gen. you certainly made life more interesting
Gen is the embodiment of complete honesty/openess. Art. Experimentation. Sense of humor. Fashion. And I'm not in love with all of their music, but a lot of it is dope and as grating as some of it is, at least they always do something different in the true spirit of music and transcendentalism. Majic. Occultism. Travel. Fuckin' hangin' with WS Burroughs... And the list goes on, and on... I'm going to look up some more now.
Gen lies all the time. All the time.
indie kids don't know a true legend when they see one
What bothers me is the lack of respect so many of the idiots on here have for this living legend
yeah, even if they don't know genesis's music they should at least have some fucking decency
Frank Lopez What does any of that even fucking mean?
They just need to listen to Six Six Sixties
Gen is not a living legend but a self obsessed narcissist, nearly everyone who has ever worked with him hates him now. He surrounded himself with creative people and took all the credit.
The illustration at the end somehow turned Genesis into a soccer-mom.
everyone's ideal form tbh
"Talking with William H. Boroughs..." Like that's a blasé thing. Goddamn I would love to have a conversation wit Genesis!
Oh I love you, Gen. Passing on EDM. I laughed so hard.
you love narcissist abusers?
If S/he says LA has a 'dark underbelly' then it must be pure evil
He only said it because he suffered there. Anyone else winding up the victim would be just fine by him.
What a poisonous, evil person.
cscran she*
@@deathhzrd they/them if you want to be correct.
@@_blank-_ I am sure they have been called worse by better people. All that does is show how gross you are as a human being. Trolling or not.
Now do David Tibet.
David Tibet would be nuts
Seconding this
PLEASE OR DOUGLAS P.
Rest in peace and chaos.
I almost overdosed on ketamine and had a terrifying out-of-body experience at a Psychic TV gig once, it's funny to hear GPO say s/he loves it.
Oh my god, that sucks it must have been amazing to be in one od those shows, im pretty young so this was never a chance, and i love psychic. so glad you went although
I sincerely doubt you nearly died. Unless you banged it up
I would love to hear them on a podcast of some kind. They're just so pleasant and engaging to listen to
love hearing when Genesis tells stories about their time with Burroughs & Gysin.
haha, Perfect ending. "And here's the result!" LOVE, GENESIS, LOVE
There will never be anyone like Genesis P. Orridge. I could listen to them talk forever.
I really respect Genesis' ultra honesty, although it's always made them an artist that I really enjoy but would be afraid to meet.
Respect your elders kids she invented weird music
he
they
edit: well, technically "he" invented weird music, he met Lady Jae later...
It's actually "they". Genesis refers to himself and Lady Jaye as "they". Look it up.
poetryjesus It's 'them', and they didn't invent weird music, you think there wasn't any strange and disconcerting music before the '70s? They didn't even invent industrial, it was invented by Cro Magnon 10 years previously with their album Orgasm, specifically the song Caledonia.
well you just said "himself"?
I love throbbing gistle
They were so clued in to popular culture, incredibly talented and knowledgeable
Storytime with Genesis is just the best.
i love them so much. i've been mourning them for awhile now and i didn't know this video existed, so cute and wonderful!!
Genesis P-Orridge is one of my all time favourite extraterrestrial beings to grace this planet.
What about teddy Roosevelt,Waylon Jennings, jaron Lanier and bill gates? 😉
hell ya throbbing gristle
I'm so glad that one of the pioneers of electronic music dissed EDM lol. Not hating on EDM, but the whole scene around it and how conformist it has become is annoying af.
You should hate on EDM, it's simplistic, watered down garbage for mentally deficient brotards
I am not a fan of EDM so I can't argue with that, I am not going to try to defend it haha.
very friendly
Meet them in the 90s and was the sweetest person
i could listen Genesis tell stories forever. He also sounds like legendary high wizard or something.
Agreed, there was a big philosophical tone with this person.
They were, duh.
I used to think I was the only person in the world who knew who Genesis P-Orridge and what Throbbing Gristle was.
Lol
@Harry Manback What? thats the guy in the video.
wow, that's some ego
Wow! You must be the only person in the universe
Lmao some of you guys are taking this too literal
REST IN ETERNAL MAGICK GENESIS
I don't think Gen can get through an interview without mentioning Brion Gysin at least once lol
R.I.P. The One Of Great Industrial Music Pioneering
22 February 1950 - 14 March 2020
They were so great!! Thank you Genesis for everything. Great inspiration. Rest in peace.
Love this human so much..
Their music is the darkest soundtrack to my life.
still can't believe this interview was even done, love it so much
RIP Gen. You were an amazing and beautiful soul. I feel blessed to have been able to walk this Earth at the same time as you'
s/he has a really cheeky giggle
Can't believe I'm just now seeing this. But this was great!
You commented on a Pitchfork video and somehow nobody even noticed.
only when it is throbbing gristle will i see myke c-town comment on a pitchfork video
Myke wtf are you doin here
I love that Gen drops names but can actually back it up. They met so many people, both influential and not. What a life.
I'm not gonna pretend that I know who this lovely woman was, but this was by far one of the most enjoyable over-unders I've ever watched. may she rest in peace.
@@_blank-_ what did I say?
A man with gender dysphoria due to being bullied in school. Thought males were mean..wasn’t female then to know whether middle school girls are mean to each other as well
@@eddiedelisio what a ridiculous take on Genesis and Lady Jaye's gender journey, jfc.
The ONLY one of these that is fascinating. We miss you Gen but you were right about this place and you left it just in time.
For some reason, I feel like she's not a fan of action bronson
She's probably never even listened to action bronson
Best episode so far!
Blessings in the great beyond Gen. We will Miss you.
I really like Genesis P-Oridge. They are such a nice people. Been a fan since the early days of Throbing Gristle. Thanks for the video!
Genesis knows what they're talking about when they mention LA. There's a reason it's called 'The Angels' and why so much of Hollywood is riddled with esoteric symbols.
Examples?
I saw him and Psychic TV twice in LA. Once it was an amazing show at the Anson Ford (outdoor theater) when he got irritated at the security being too strict and invited everyone up on stage. The second time a couple of minutes in he made a point of taking a pill, everyone cheered and then he collapsed. We all waited and then we saw him going away in an ambulance :)
I could listen to Genesis talk for hours on just about any subject. RIP
Right there with you on noisy eaters Gen. Sets me on edge!
What an amazing soul... Rest in glory
"I've got a biscuit tin, to keep your panties in" great lyric
He spoke to my class at the San Francisco Art Institute, which no longer exists. I was taking a class in the history of video art and the instructor was the curator of video for the SFMOMA and he invited him in to speak to us. I don’t remember anything about what he said now - this was 30 years ago - but I recall he was quite interesting to listen to.
one of the best gen interviews i've seen. editing benefits her greatly.
You're the best Genesis, glad to hear you say that circumcision is an abomination, which it is.
yes indeed
Nonsense.
anonym You’re so stupid
I love the in-depth analysis of circumcision.
Big ups for the circumcision talk
The fact that both Katie Stelmanis and Genesis P-Orridge both dismiss Action Bronson for two very different, but equally valid reasons, makes me most happy. RIP Gen!
This made me smile right away. R.i.p.
EDM was rated in the best way, really
Ignorance is bliss in that sense
Yo the drums in this sound like it's about to start into a nardward interview 😂
RIP Genesis you can now be reunited with your beloved Lady J 💕
R.I.P ❤️
The last part was the best for sure. Finally I don’t feel like I’m in the twilight zone
Ugh RIP you wonderful and creative being. 😔❤️💔
She's cool. Never heard her music but I'm definitely interested now.
Dana Copp I recommend Throbbing Gristle's 20 Jazz Funk Greats, Psychic TV's Allegory and Self and Towards the Infinite Beat, and Thee Majesty's Thee Fractured Garden as an introductory quartet, although my personal favourites are TG's late '70s live sets and PTV's first two albums and various experimental soundtrack/ritual/collage works.
FANNY MOUTH
Love you Gen. rest in peace🌹
I had to pause this to say I love you Genesis
R.I.P.
I miss you so much!
She's so right about L.A., scary.
omg would have loved to hear their opinion on EDM
HAHAHAHAHAH PASSS ON EDM I LOVE YOU GENESIS I LOVE YOU
RIP you gorgeous explosion of crazy invention x
The Los Angeles segment should have been underscored with Chris And Cosey's 'Put Yourself In Los Angeles' tune underneath. And for Gen rattling on about circumcision - ain't that the pot calling the kettle 'cock' right there? LOL
I laughed at them reaction to EDM. Genesis actually played an important part in the early rave scene (UK). It was EDM I guess.. I mean what isn't?
Music made without electronic instruments, or music which isn't made to dance to. Most music isn't EDM, dude. I'm pretty sure you know this, too, so…?
My point was that EDM isn't a term that makes much historical sense. It's a recent term that Millenials have been using to pigeonhole in one bag any synth or electronic music that comes with a beat. It's not culturally interesting to talk about EDM as semantically it implies retroactively flashlighting a term on a long part of music history when such a term never existed. Also, synth dance as an extrapolation of synth pop and italo disco was a term used at the beginning of the 1980's (when the term dance music gradually replaced the term disco for a short while in some places), but using an all-encompassing nomenclature like EDM only obfuscate history and the often blurry context of when such terms as dance or electronic were actually used (indeed a whole lot of music include both electronic and non-electronic instrumentions, especially in the early days of club-intended "dance" music).
Nerozumim oh, well shit. I didn't know all of that man, thanks. It's been the only term used for this type of thing for as long as I remember and I'm not really big on EDM so I didn't know anything about it, so honestly thanks for telling me about this. It's nice to see people educating others on TH-cam rather than constantly beefing.
It's ok, I'm one of the elders. Like Genesis/Breyer in this video is an elder in this industry so ze can be trusted.
Nerozumim s/he he/r*
If you’re gonna try and use a proper pronoun, at least check. Otherwise what’s the point? Might as well say he.
I cannot like this video enough. What a beautiful soul(s)
kinda shocked to see Gen on something as mainstream as Pitchfork.....Genesis was pure class, one of the last things they did was help friends of mine out of a bind and I'll always thank them for that
What a wonderful being. 💖
I wished this video never end.
fuckiN king/queen of Industrial dishing out some good criticism, haha fuckin bless Genesis.
the dreamy sigh before the ketamine
I didn't know Gen was such a big ketamine freak. Ironically, the one time I did it I heard Lady Maybe in my head, half-awake, driving across the desert.
RIP- we lost one of the most important musicians ever
Damn, I haven't spent much time in LA, but what they said about LA seems spot on.
One of the best bods to come out of England in the mid late 70's.
What a fascinating creation
A fucking icon omg, a legend! im playing pyschic tv right fucking now
S/he looks as scary as h/er music. And I love h/er. R.i.p.
Check out his release with Merzbow. "A Perfect Pain"
REST IN POWER GENESIS
best over/under ever!!!
RIP Genesis
What a fascinating person
i love GPO so much. if it wasn't for her i'd still probably be listening to pink floyd all the time. can you imagine?
get boyd rice or david tibet on here next. make worlds collide p4k
They should get Edward Ka-spel, and Cevin Key (and Ogre), and Mark Spybey, and Phil Western. I'd also like to see Amon Tobin, and Aphex Twin, and a number of others.
karlheinz stockhausen
yes, I can and do listen to Foyd a lot still. they made ZERO worth listening to post-Dark Side. I would gather that Gen might even agree (as PTV covered FLoyd once). ignore the bloated crap they became and relisten to the pre-1972 stuff!
wish you were here is literally the wost album i've ever heard.