Mark E Smith - The British Masters - Christmas Special - Part One

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    John Doran of the Quietus meets Mark E Smith of pre-eminent rock group The Fall, in a special Christmas episode of our British Masters series where John interviews the most influential and colourful figures from British popular music history.
    In John's own words: "There are only a few things that separate us from the rest of the animal kingdom... the most important of these attributes, is an appreciation of the music of The Fall. This means if you do not listen to such albums as 'Hex Enduction Hour', 'This Nation's Saving Grace' and 'The Unutterable' you are worse than savage. The solution to what ails us is clear -- be less beastly, listen to The Fall"
    Previous British Masters have included Gary Numan, Johnny Marr, and Dizzee Rascal.
    See the rest of the British Masters Series here: • The British Masters
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  • @pov_music
    @pov_music 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    This is definitely the friendliest interview he's ever done.

  • @comeonyouyellows
    @comeonyouyellows 4 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    "Have you been watching The Great British Bake Off?" Is probably the best question ever put to Mark E Smith

    • @danholliday5564
      @danholliday5564 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Fantastic answer given though. I can see Mark in some gangster's house. Buying base and watching day time tv with the fellas wife.

    • @kennethbartlett1465
      @kennethbartlett1465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That-ah is-ah soggy bottom-ah!

  • @zazz63
    @zazz63 6 ปีที่แล้ว +266

    every pub in the uk used to have a guy like this ....it was mandatory in those days.

    • @kgatlw9134
      @kgatlw9134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      'in those days', you'll only glorify this shit if you haven't had to experience it up close.

    • @onlineenglish7065
      @onlineenglish7065 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      “I drink and I know things”

    • @pov_music
      @pov_music 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kgatlw9134 why are most Fall fans snobby Guardian readers? He hates people like them

    • @owenmartin3307
      @owenmartin3307 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But none of them could write fall hits

    • @richardgoss4777
      @richardgoss4777 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@owenmartin3307 The Fall couldn't write The Fall hits neither.

  • @ericrhodes5174
    @ericrhodes5174 6 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    'There's never going to be a Fall tribute group, because nobody can do it' Truer words were never spoken. RIP

    • @61pokepi
      @61pokepi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      pavement

    • @sundaze5582
      @sundaze5582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      fat white family?

    • @Gbhbbgvsbnjhhdchhb
      @Gbhbbgvsbnjhhdchhb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Who would want to?

    • @tompanoname3579
      @tompanoname3579 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      True. Must say I never heard good Fall cover. Maybe PJ Harvey did OK with "Janet & Johnny+James"..but just OK.

    • @littlehammers9032
      @littlehammers9032 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      actully when I was in the US, after MES death...a tribute band came out played 1hr 25. pure er

  • @thechapelperilous
    @thechapelperilous 10 ปีที่แล้ว +284

    "Vampirism is at the end of the day, a crime"

  • @blikeredaxis
    @blikeredaxis 9 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Way back, I played Dragnet, and my mum heard it. She said that the songs could be hits, if they didn't sound so horrible. sums up the appeal of the Fall really. Hope your liver goes on forever Mark. Cheers!

    • @tomheslington2993
      @tomheslington2993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It didn't

    • @vollsticks
      @vollsticks ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Pissing myself at your comment. "They could be hits, if they didn't sound so horrible" is an incredible summation of The Fall's oeuvre

  • @innescrook9295
    @innescrook9295 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    “Vampirism is a crime at the end of the day, isn’t it?” Brilliant.

  • @yuppyprolepaste4926
    @yuppyprolepaste4926 8 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    "I can't understand why anybody would wanna watch Somebody cookin a fuckin meal."

  • @AnthonyMonaghan
    @AnthonyMonaghan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I feel drunk watching this.

  • @TheIkaraCult
    @TheIkaraCult 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    "Vampirism... its a crime at the end of the day"
    One of the funniest people to ever live. What a man.

  • @davew5167
    @davew5167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Mark E Smith was a true original. What a musical legacy The Fall leave behind them. Nothing else like it out there.

  • @gonzalojohnson
    @gonzalojohnson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    And to think this bloke is one of the most influential artists of the 20th century. True legend.

  • @mr.whipple2953
    @mr.whipple2953 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have to laugh because on two occasions in the 80s, I played a cassette tape for people, claiming that it was “my band”; one was ‘Sister Ray’ by The VU, and the other was ‘Tempo House’ by The Fall!

  • @earinsound
    @earinsound 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    He got a lot of mileage out of being a docking clerk for six months when he was 19.

  • @Dickbox1080
    @Dickbox1080 10 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Can you imagine being stuck between feigning laughter every time Mark does or disappointing one of your music heroes?

    • @johnsmith-vg5rx
      @johnsmith-vg5rx 10 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      i think mark comes from the sort of working class northern pub culture where you laugh at anything if someone is trying to make a joke. i think mark knows that everything hes saying isnt hilarious but its just what people up north do.

    • @zdillz
      @zdillz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnsmith-vg5rx yeah I always sucked at that too. I was a pretty shy middle-class kid, got a job in a very working class pub. Took me while to work out that when some fucker cracks a joke you laugh no matter what . Pissed off a few people before I understood that. Edit: and not half hearted pained chuckle like this interviewer's squeezing out, you gotta give it some Welly!

    • @zdillz
      @zdillz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, feels tense....haha

  • @stephenjames4937
    @stephenjames4937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Mark E Smith cracks me up. He castigates people with generalisations, and cackles with laughter. Leave no-one unblasted!

  • @blueroot2547
    @blueroot2547 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I had a housemate like Mark E Smith, endless stories and opinions, it was awesome :)

  • @lehliladevandria5712
    @lehliladevandria5712 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    What an absolute legend. John is just so overwhelmed by his greatness,he can barely ask a question. All he can say is "Yeah... Yeh...yah".

    • @DavySolaris
      @DavySolaris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think he's just a bit sad that his hero had become a fucked-up alcoholic.

    • @sooperheep
      @sooperheep 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean thats about the best you can hope for

  • @jonanjello
    @jonanjello 7 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    I was wondering what Chris Noveslic was doing these days

    • @startervisions
      @startervisions 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      politics

    • @hunter-zu3hk
      @hunter-zu3hk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      *krist

    • @markmeyer1291
      @markmeyer1291 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      check him out.hes doing fine

    • @Johnconno
      @Johnconno 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a bold Syrup he's wearing though.

    • @nwo4life708
      @nwo4life708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Don't think some got the joke 🙄

  • @G1806
    @G1806 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Fall when I started hearing music as opposed to just listening ✌️

  • @dandare1001
    @dandare1001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Mark was on form, that day. Very enjoyable.

  • @blikeredaxis
    @blikeredaxis 9 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Funniest thing I've seen for ages, Mark is a natural.

  • @TheIkaraCult
    @TheIkaraCult 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    MES was such a lovely, funny geezer. The world is so much poorer without him in it

  • @postpunkpodge9746
    @postpunkpodge9746 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    RIP Mark a one off genius we will never see his like again. So many bands tried but none could emulate The Fall.

    • @iamdamosuzuki_
      @iamdamosuzuki_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      “They can imitate, but I Teach.” - The Hip Priest

  • @CW0406
    @CW0406 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "I can't understand why anybody wanna watch somebody cooking a fucking meal. Do you?" LOVE him.

  • @sweetkat85
    @sweetkat85 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "I can't understand why someone would watch someone cook a fuckin meal" this man is god

  • @mselizabethsteel
    @mselizabethsteel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I could listen to him chat all day! Cracks me up. RIP Legend

  • @timmg3139
    @timmg3139 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think this is the greatest interview (of anyone) ever. Have watched it so many times

  • @terrysaunders2457
    @terrysaunders2457 8 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    no interview has needed subtitles more

    • @terrysaunders2457
      @terrysaunders2457 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      great one tho

    • @voddynblack
      @voddynblack 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      let me guess yer a yankee , cant seak yer own fuckin language

    • @jrmarrero96
      @jrmarrero96 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It could always be worse; Bob Dylan could be conducting the interview.

    • @chuckabbate5924
      @chuckabbate5924 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mancunian.....subset language

    • @youjoker9647
      @youjoker9647 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Four Libras are a Fall tribute band. There's a few around

  • @fightington
    @fightington 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I could listen to this convo once a month easy. Perfect work jon and RIP MES

  • @cohenkane2148
    @cohenkane2148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    MES passing was the saddest I ever was about someone dying that I had never met or known. I still cannot listen to the few albums I have not heard. I like knowing I have not reached the end. Yet.

    • @youjoker9647
      @youjoker9647 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Felt the same way about John Martyn.

    • @nikolademitri731
      @nikolademitri731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Felt the same way about Bowie, though I was also really sad when MESmith went too.. The difference being I was a huge fan of Bowie, very familiar with his discography, but I had only just began to dive into The Fall’s music, and understand how unbelievably brilliant it is, and only was aquatinted with a small chunk of MES’s discography when he passed.. Still, I knew it was the loss of a legend.

  • @andrewburton5105
    @andrewburton5105 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This just put the biggest smile on my face

  • @wrightcarl1181
    @wrightcarl1181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The captions for this are hilarious. RIP Mark you crazy mental genius

  • @Astro_War
    @Astro_War 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Mark loves a bit of banter, some people just took it the wrong way, but I always enjoyed his interviews no matter what.

  • @styxcreek
    @styxcreek 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Made my day. MES is a living treasure.

  • @Warringtron
    @Warringtron 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    When I first met my wife-to-be (in the 90`s), she had heard of The Fall (due to a mention or two by Stewart Lee of Lee & Herring fame at the time) but never heard any songs.
    I played her the compilation CD "The Collection" - she told me that they were better than she had imagined, but strangely enough has never voluntarily listened to another track since...

    • @ferozealam13
      @ferozealam13 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I played Extricate to my gf in 90's, she'd never heard of them. 22 years later its practically all we listen to.

    • @annthorpe8411
      @annthorpe8411 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bloody hell! How old is your girlfriend now then?

    • @ferozealam13
      @ferozealam13 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Both early forties.

    • @Warringtron
      @Warringtron 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ann - Yes, old people can have partners too...! :D

  • @jaywarren333
    @jaywarren333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favourite interview of all time

  • @fuzzydunlop4513
    @fuzzydunlop4513 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It's unfortunate we couldn't get Chief Keef and Mark E Smith in the same room tomorrow

  • @cclewes7373
    @cclewes7373 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Smith belonged in the Victorian era. He was a throwback to a lost age.

  • @chairmanmeow-ij1wd
    @chairmanmeow-ij1wd 9 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The interviewers face when he realises how mashed MES is. Looks fucking terrified.

  • @DragonFlagBand
    @DragonFlagBand 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of the best interviews ever!

  • @Boiing008
    @Boiing008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great interview John your laid back style carried it along nicely. And he's right, no one could sound like the Fall. A great band with great songs that still sound fresher than a lot of the newer bands do today

  • @atarirob
    @atarirob 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love how Mark consistently fucks up the names of his own songs...such a character.

  • @dinoramone6761
    @dinoramone6761 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Listening to The Fall's records is like panning for gold.

  • @stephen3511
    @stephen3511 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    MES was a true one off. It’s sad there will be no more Fall albums.......... but what a legacy 👊💥

    • @24031965GAV
      @24031965GAV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There must be shed loads of unreleased tape

  • @fishfingers160
    @fishfingers160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is this the best interview ever? Yes, yes it is.

  • @mrjamescurry
    @mrjamescurry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    God I miss that man. National Treasure

  • @lukedaley17
    @lukedaley17 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loved Mark’s collaboration with Damon Albarn’s Gorrilaz on the song Glitter Freeze. RIP Mark

  • @emile235
    @emile235 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Bill Oddie needs security guards to walk him to his car in Salford.

  • @oaksted338
    @oaksted338 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We'll never see his like again...world were better with a dissenting voice in it

  • @maineroad7429
    @maineroad7429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I met him on Deansgate Mcr in 2010 and seen him head over to the Sawyers Arms for a quick one and he was back out and I got chatting to him and he signed my evening news to my cousin with a funny message on it.He was warm,engaging and he could of talked for hours...

  • @drewletasse2660
    @drewletasse2660 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The best musician, 'with a laymens ear', of all time.

  • @SkinnyEMedia
    @SkinnyEMedia ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mark E. Smith should’ve been a stand-up comedian.

  • @haybrym
    @haybrym 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Gotta love him

  • @kingfisherautomotif9884
    @kingfisherautomotif9884 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've subscribed on your opening gambit before you've even met Mark . . . I think I'm going to enjoy your channel ;-)

  • @thechristianhuey
    @thechristianhuey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a really good interview. Dude did very well to get MES to lower his guard. It mostly worked.

    • @thechristianhuey
      @thechristianhuey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No kissing arse, a few questions out of nowhere, playing along but only in the service of having him talk more... I keep coming back to this one.

    • @alexjewell2351
      @alexjewell2351 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      John Doran is great at these, he asks decent questions, questions that you haven't heard umpteen times befiore.

  • @famashs
    @famashs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    please someone,anyone,we need subtitles for these glorious piece of film

  • @xMsry7
    @xMsry7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was worrying about my drinking at 24 years old, but if it's good enough for mark, it's good enough for me

  • @andreaneilcmc
    @andreaneilcmc 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's good that around 0:45 MES looks as bewildered as John Doran does for the rest of the interview.

  • @arash402003
    @arash402003 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Suggestion if I may, dump your entire setup for an entire series of Mark E Smith interviews.

  • @user-yk8ro9rf4r
    @user-yk8ro9rf4r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mr Mark EDWARD Smith ,Real R.I.P.I love the Fall's CD,BBC radio1;LIVE in Concert ,from Tue M.

  • @JonnoDoesStuff
    @JonnoDoesStuff 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    8:30 'When we were kids, the daytime TV was good, won' it? It was like f*cking really sh*t, and f*cking really bad. It was good, though'

  • @diskochimp
    @diskochimp 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Tempo House" = the ultimate Fall song.
    Mark E. (cha-cha!)

  • @thescroot
    @thescroot 10 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    "He replaced the fookin' lesbian, dinny?"

  • @DarrylWThomas
    @DarrylWThomas 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mark riffs his own interview. Nice.

  • @GenteelCretin
    @GenteelCretin 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Good lord yes, but what I wouldn't give for some subtitles right about now...

  • @lofi-guy
    @lofi-guy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Is the interviewer Dave Hill from Slade?

  • @Jlipnicki
    @Jlipnicki 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    a film about John Donne with music by the Fall, by all means.

  • @user-kl4bh4lq6r
    @user-kl4bh4lq6r 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always loved Mark E Smiths Straight Talking

  • @owenwilberforce6138
    @owenwilberforce6138 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love when I understand what Mark would say. He is one of the English speakers that I still need translation into something intelligible. I think he was really charming and funny, but so insular and in his own universe. It’s fun to try to make up some meaning though of his ramblings.

  • @galenstone9097
    @galenstone9097 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Godspeed, Mark.

  • @hdmccart6735
    @hdmccart6735 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    'Lager's a hell of a drug...'

  • @goutmasterdarryl
    @goutmasterdarryl 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    There is a cover band of The Fall in Toronto called Mr.Pharmacist, they're actually great!

  • @feliperaurichbottiger6637
    @feliperaurichbottiger6637 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    RIP Mark !

  • @naomiroberts6536
    @naomiroberts6536 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    RIP Legend

  • @rebeccawatson3126
    @rebeccawatson3126 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's called "House of All". They would never have dared when Mark was alive.

  • @Jlipnicki
    @Jlipnicki 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    one of the best things is he still lives in England somewhere not in America, where Lydon moved to way back. Very few people in bands even then were even slightly working class or knew anything about it. Strummer, the people who write the history, Jon Savage, make the films, Julian Temple.

  • @pongoumbongo4301
    @pongoumbongo4301 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hilarious.
    Don't really like the music, bar a handful of tracks,
    but MES is always a delight to listen to. A true original and box office entertainment.

  • @Oldmotherhell
    @Oldmotherhell 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "...that's the real estate agents' job, innit?"

  • @ciatangallaghe2485
    @ciatangallaghe2485 ปีที่แล้ว

    No I enjoyed that bit, brilliant.

  • @sparedonga570
    @sparedonga570 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Evidently the deal was: free beer and I'll do your interview

  • @24031965GAV
    @24031965GAV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Zippy's let himself go a bit. Mark E how I love you, how I love you My dear old Mark E....

  • @zerolubin
    @zerolubin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Miss him.

  • @themagnanimous1246
    @themagnanimous1246 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    His talking gets more clear the more he gets pissed about the BBC lmfao

  • @leriwaters.9744
    @leriwaters.9744 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dear john, Nick Saloman and Richard Thompson are terribly missed at this series!!!

  • @davidhope2506
    @davidhope2506 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Funny interview.

  • @cubanheelsbeerbelly
    @cubanheelsbeerbelly ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He's a pure fucking treasure. I wish he was around to see what's happened to the world today. Only the boring ones make it to old age.

  • @joshdh95
    @joshdh95 9 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    have you watched the great british bake off?
    ........... no?

  • @108noonoo
    @108noonoo 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Genius though

  • @christopherwibberley8984
    @christopherwibberley8984 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was listening to the fall that got me into the original Memphis five

  • @deadalivestore
    @deadalivestore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The thing people never got about MES was, at his core, he just a regular bloke you'd meet anywhere. The thing that made him so great was his natural ability to be undeniable in his trade and art. I like to see him a plumber or a bricklayer, just so happens he was a musician instead.

  • @Oooo-bi7bi
    @Oooo-bi7bi ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree , bring back Give us a Clue and going for gold.

  • @matty7dream1
    @matty7dream1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a man.

  • @paulconnelly4050
    @paulconnelly4050 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    John Doran: “ what the fuck was I thinking?”
    Having said that, I find this interview both hard to watch and quite hilarious at the same time.

  • @jarnovarsted9053
    @jarnovarsted9053 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    jeg er vild med denne video

  • @jeffn1384
    @jeffn1384 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The subtitles were struggling

  • @florida4life
    @florida4life 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The 'kiss of death' on dates was a real thing. My first wife was dating a Tom Waits fan (who ironically I later became a big fan of). After I played some fall (a LOT) she was like "oh God another boyfriend likes nutjob music". I hereby ban you from playing that song "Talk a Lotta Windows" at our wedding.
    Mark as a double glazing salesman. Yes, yes please.
    EDIT "Huckleberry's Daughter" also banned.

  • @justmadeit2
    @justmadeit2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Remember The Falls song from the 80s called No Bulbs ? Well i made a video to go with the song, if anyone wants to see it just type in this title........The Fall No Bulbs Official ?

  • @leonardjohnny67
    @leonardjohnny67 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He asks John a hundred times ‘you know what I’m sayin’?, ‘yeah, yeak’ whilst not having the foggiest

  • @moog5260
    @moog5260 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like how John looks bemused for most of this