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- Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse is good but is it THAT good?
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I don't think Miles being able to outrun the spider society shows that the other spiders are weak, but rather that running and avoiding is much more in power and character of Spider-Man than chasing and capture. The complete idea of the spider sense is that it aids mostly in defensive maneuvers against everything that might be a danger to Spider-Man.
In that regard, the spider society did something they are less good at (because all of them basically are the same avoidance until you find the time to strike archetype) while Miles does something he is an expert in thanks to spidersense.
This also plays into the idea that the spider society is corrupting itself from within, as they neglect the ideal of spiderman and his powers, while Miles stays true to his spider identity.
Ooooo intresting observation!!
I believe it was said that canonically if any Spiderman is truly trying to escape then they can never be caught due to the spider sense
Hadn't thought of this before.
I’d also like to add that, at least plot wise, Spider-Man and most other hero’s are often more powerful when they are fighting for something that fits within their ideals. So as hero’s within a hero story they are making them selves less powerful by not living up to their ideals.
"Ah, that's annoying! The English guy's growing on me! My Scottish ancestors are turning in their graves right now!" That was funnier than it had any right to be XD
Interesting to see such a quick turnaround. Also, a shoutout to all the animators who had to go hell and back for this movie.
can you imagine the oversight needed to keep track of all the spidermen during the chase and fight scenes?
I do like the little thread that we get that miguel is basically a walking confirmation bias, those two “collapses” looked completely different which is why even though Hobie probably knew what was up by Miguel’s standards he wasn’t worried. If miles was a mistake then it should make him exempt from the canon because those events already happened in that universe and yet he’s not. The logic isn’t sound but it’s something Miguel could hold onto in his grief as reasoning for what happened
Bonus you can see Jess rethinking things when she has to realize what she’s doing to someone’s baby, she sat by as miguel choke slammed and verbally abused a 15 yr old child
If I'm not mistaken Spider-man 2099 differs quite a bit from other spiders. Instead of being bit his DNA was spliced with spider genes which gave him retractable claws instead of the sticky hands, venomous fangs and I don't believe he has the Spider sense😅
Fun fact: Pavitr wasn't bitten by a spider either! He got his powers through magic from a Yogi. Pretty sure he does still have a spider sense though.
Miles was dead serious on going home. While most of the spider persons are just goofing off and the only ones that are serious on catching miles are Jess Drew and Miguel O'Hara. The others are just playing you can even see others just doing their usual stuff like training and eating.
The reference to Doctor Strange is referencing the Spider Man No way home movie with Andrew Garfield, Tobey Maguire and Tom Holland
I loved ATSV so much but the fact that they left it on a cliff hanger made me so mad 😭 love your channel sm :)
It was originally advertised as a Part 1. I think they were afraid less people would see it in theaters if the believed they had to wait a year to finish the story.
Thank you galaxy!
@@johnniequinn3215 wdym wait a year BTSV has been delayed Indefinitely
@1fkattick I was speaking about when the first teaser trailers came out. I support the Writers and Actors in thier strike efforts for equity. Waiting for "part2" now just means more time for the creators to perfect the story.
@@johnniequinn3215 same but i'm also scared
Why do I love the Spot?
10% because he’s a cool character with fun powers
90% because I love Jason Schwartzman in everything he’s in 😂
Ben Reilly, the one with blue hoodie is one of Peter’s clones, he took the name Ben after his uncle and Reilly is aunt May’s maiden name. He dyed his hair blonde in memory of the Gwen who died.
I hope the sequel addresses why Spider-Ham and Noir weren’t in the Spider-Society; my guess is that they told Miguel to get lost. That’s assuming they were even considered; Gwen and Peni are teenage girls who were easier to convince (and Miguel didn’t want Gwen because he was concerned she’d do what he was worried about), and Peter B. was helping Miguel *before* he founded the Society so he’d already empathised with his perspective… ;-(
Also, you *ask* the film to let Spot kill someone… then realise he might kill somebody we actually like. Classy, mate. :-D
Fun fact: When Gwen returns to her world and her father walks into her room, she shoots the penguin stuffed animal.
The penguin stuffed animal is a reference to Gwen from another universe who is a penguin.
Please tell me her name isn't "Pen-Gwen".
@@dawnwayfinder This Gwen exists in the Peter Porker universe and is known as Spider-Guin
also, if you look at the reflection of the mirror as he aprouches her, you can see that the penguin changes shape into a gun, showing how she perceived it.
Gwen's dad quitting the force is nice and all, and I'm happy for Gwen that it ended well, but it always feels a bit weak for me considering he didn't quit when he realized he almost shot his daughter, he only *decided* to quit "halfway through her big speech". Like why was his awakening moment not when he had to face the fact he almost killed his child.
When I first saw the movie, I initially interpreted that line as he (mentally) quit in the earlier scene, halfway through it. But on rewatch, I was watching that scene, trying to figure out the moment when he quit, and I couldn't see it. It was only on my third rewatch that I realised that he meant he'd just decided to quit in that scene. I think it would have been stronger if they'd had that moment in the earlier scene. Maybe they could have animated him mouthing something at Gwen through the red force-field thing, which in hindsight the audience would realise was him begging Gwen to stay, telling her that he quits, but she couldn't hear him at the time because of the force-field thing. I think that would have been more powerful than it taking him until Gwen came back to decide to quit.
(Although the thought popped into my head just now is that maybe he didn't quit until then because he was using the resources at his job on the police force to search for Gwen while she was missing. But he would have seen her step through the portal, so he would've had some idea that she probably wasn't just hiding out somewhere in the city, although he wouldn't have had any way to know for sure that she was in another dimension. Still, I guess it could be interpreted in the way that after she left, he only cared about using his job to find her, and only after she was back he felt comfortable quitting because he didn't need the job to find her anymore, but there isn't enough evidence in the movie to support this interpretation, so I definitely think having a moment in the earlier scene to indicate that he decided to quit then would have been much stronger)
He was never gonna shoot her or close to shooting her. He just wanted to scare her
I think it was because he missed her that much. Once he understood her and why she left, he knew he couldn't be an officer anymore, and in the time while she was gone, he realized how much he just wanted her in his life more than anything. Also, he'd been visited by Hobey already, so he had an idea of what was happening in the bigger picture. People keep forgetting that Hobey gave her dad the multiverse watch before she even got to him.
@@tmm4195Not sure how or if you think that's better. Trying to point a gun at your child to Scare them, would also be cruel and inexcusable.
@@Poisonousquinn I get it. I’m just saying he didn’t almost kill his child like you said he was. I know I’m playing devils advocate here, but he also had a job to do and he was doing it. It’s pretty clear he decided to quit after her speech because she was gone for awhile and he missed her
Plot twist: Welchy wants to like Hobie so desperately but is trying to stick to the traditional Scottish-English rivalry
Shhhh don’t tell them
@@Welchy k
Earth-199999 is the MCU, and Miguel was talking about No Way Home which you’ve seen.
@9:18 My favorite funny moment was when The Spot kicked himself and fell into a scary portal before he could finish his sentence. Also, you gotta admit that the one spot that makes up his face turning into a little dot was kinda cute.
I also liked how cartoony the first fight was. Between spinning in the car wash to the Foam Party becoming an actual foam party with Miles and Spot “dancing” to the kid taking off his mask, I couldn’t stop laughing the first time around.
The Lego sequence was put together not by a team of animators but rather by a 14-year-old kid named Preston Mutanga.
Lenny, the Jamaican shopkeeper, was voiced by Ziggy Marley, one of Bob Marley’s children.
Three facts about Pavitr:
1.) He wasn’t bitten by a radioactive spider. Rather his powers are magic based.
2.) He fights using an Indian martial art called Kalaripayattu. A small animation team from Kerala, India was tasked to help animate Pavitri's movements.
3.) His Spidey mask has design inspirations from Theyyam, a Hindu ritual from Kerala.
When Hobie says he hates the a.m. and the P.M, he’s respectively talking about the morning and the Prime Minister.
Malala Windsor, the Spider-Woman with the hijab, is an original character created for this movie. She was never introduced in the comics.
@23:56 and @23:59 That’s record producer Metro Boomin’ making a cameo. He curated the soundtrack for this movie. There’s a deluxe edition with six other tracks included.
Peter is a great mentor but also an irresponsible father for bringing Mayday to a steel mill with all kinds of equipment that can easily harm her.
Miguel has the best of intentions with preventing the multiverse from collapsing, but I didn’t like that he called Miles a mistake and blamed him for everything that happened. Miles never asked to get bitten by a radioactive spider, but he’s doing his best and making the most of the situation.
And finally, it’s weird but also cool that Earth-42’s version of J. Jonah Jameson and The Daily Bugle would actually support a Spider-Man rather than call him a menace all the time.
Beyond the Spider-Verse was originally slated for March of next year. Unfortunately due to the ongoing writers and actors strike, voice recording has been delayed until further notice. The good news for now is that the animation is still underway, but let’s hope they don’t get screwed like the prior team.
OMG thank you for the 23:56 fact. I couldn't find who voiced that character anywhere!
Even without the strikes, it was already going to be delayed anyway. When Across The Spider-verse released, Hayley Steinfield said that she hadn't recorded any voice lines for Beyond The Spider-verse yet. Recording the voice acting happens early in production, because you need to have the audio to sync the lip movements to while animating the characters. If they still hadn't recorded any of Gwen's lines only 9 months before the intended release date, no way was the movie going to be finished in time. I think it's a bit shady that Sony is blaming the strikes for the delay. Yes, obviously the strikes are affecting it too, but I feel like that's a shady way to undermine the important message of the strikes, rather than owning up to the fact that the movie was going to be delayed anyway.
I learned so much in this comment, wow!
Malala is an original character, but Spider-UK does exist in the comics, (as two individuals).
Umm they’re not animating without the voices. This isn’t a Japanese production. Please remove that portion, esp since it sounds like you’re blaming the writers strike. The movie was only just finished, and it took 4 years. The sequel will be in production for a while
It's the best animated superhero movie. Hobie and Pav are my favorite new spiders and everything about it was awesome
7:14 why though? the intro literaly told us that she is thinking about him maybe even more than he thinks about her. hell, in the flashback from their goodby in the first movie, she is literaly kissing as she falls back to her dimension. showing that, if miles didnt interrupt her, she was gonna jump on him.
and later on, you can see how desperate she is worrying about him. hell, if you have any doubt she is down worse for him than he is for her, just look at how she responds to him after he saves pav's father in law.
dude, the way she answered that dripping with romance... to the point even miles is caught of guard.
The women Welchy said looked like she’s seen some sht is from the Venom movies. She was the cashier that Eddy would talk to and buy from all the time and she knew about Venom so yes, she has seen a lot of sht😂
The Childish Gambino/Donald Glover was in Spider-man Homecoming. He was selling weapons and gets caught. He tells Peter he has a nephew named Miles.
I checked my watch just once during the movie, and it was because i realized Miles was gonna end up in the spider's dimension. I just knew that there wasn't enough time 😂😂😂
“I hope the spot kills someone” famous last words
Issa Rae in this movie and ‘Barbie’ this year? GOOD FOR HER! 👏🏽
The comic version of Jess can also do the electric powers. In fact, she’s done it before Miles’ character even existed.
4:52 not quite, 50% of his dna was spliced with that of a spider, hence him having the claws.
The main comic non-spider version of Hobie was the original Prowler, a villain turned friend of Peter.
That is the best intro to a video i've seen all year.
Best TH-cam opening in the existence of TH-cam 😂 can’t wait for more
:D
Some infomation to help you out:
Miles Morales (Earth-1610B) - Based on the Ultimate Universe in the comics Earth-1610
So this is pretty much the main universe we follow in both these films, one Miles exists in and became Spider-Man after the death of Peter Parker. It's a reflection of our universe but with differences like brand names, Michelle Obama ran for office instead of Obama, NYPD is called the PDNY etc. Also I think there's a basketball player who in real life was really good but never became massive famous but in Miles universe he's one of the most famous basketball players of all time.
Peter B Parker (Earth-616B) - Based on the Mainline Marvel Universe of Earth-616
This is the reality of Peter B Parker who you can look at as the "main" Spider-Man being closer to the mainline Spider-Man comics and our own reality having real brands etc. They retconned his reality to Earth-616B to not overlap the comics. Miles as well who is now Earth-1610B as his origin, death of Spider-Man among other things don't line up with the comics.
Doctor Strange (Earth-199999)
Doctor Strange is a character who exists in pretty much every universe with the main one being Earth-616 of course the Main Marvel Continuity from the comics. But Earth-199999 Doctor Strange is the one from the MCU played by Benedict Cumberbatch introduced in the 2016 Doctor Strange film. This is also the only non Spider-Man related character mentioned in this film, a hint at the greater Marvel universe beyond Spider-Man, like if Tony Stark was mentioned or Captain America. I can't say why this is a reference for spoilers but the "little nerd" line was a nod to MCU Spider-Man played by Tom Holland and relates to one of his Spider-Man films this being why Miguel brought it up.
Miguel O'Hara (Earth-928)
Miguel is Spider-Man of Earth-928 active in the year 2099. Earth-928 is a possible future of Earth-616 (Mainline Marvel Comics) where the modern world became embroiled in a massive civil war between humans and mutants. In the end the humans won but suffered tremendous losses. Even fewer mutants survived. Miguel worked for Alchemax where he tried a genetic procedure, Miguel survived the process; his DNA was spliced with the genes of a spider and gained several powers. Miguel also has Talons and Fangs and Organic Webbing. Pretty much Alchemax was trying to re-create the powers of characters from the Age of Hero's the present day of Marvel Comics. Spider-Man/Peter Parker being one of these characters.
Jessica Drew ( Earth-332)
Jessica is of course Spider-Woman but not the one from Earth-616, the mainline Marvel continuity . In this film she's a Variant of the Spider-Woman from Earth-332 depicted as a Black Woman with an Afro while Earth-616 Jessica Drew is white with straight black hair and a different outfit. You can actually see a comic accurate Jessica Drew Spider-Woman chasing Miles so I assume this is the mainline Earth-616 Spider-Woman. Jessica Drew being pregnant is also from the comic. She's got a very complex history in the comics relating to her origin.
Ben Riley (Earth-94)
Ben Riley (Taking Uncle Ben's first name and Aunt May's Maiden name) was a genetic clone of Peter Parker introduced in the original Clone Saga from the 1970s. Alot of stuff happened, pretty much Gwen Stacy showed up out of nowhere to the shock of Peter as this wasn't long after her Death. It was later revealed that a villain known as the Jackel cloned Gwen Stacy and Peter Parker who he blamed for the death of Gwen. The jackel kidnapps Ned Leeds and Spider-Man hunts the Jackel to his lab where he comes face to face with another Spider-Man.
The lab is destroyed and the Clone of Peter is assumed to be killed in the lab explosion. But decades later we get the new Clone Saga in the 1990s that re-introduced that same clone. Its a long and overly complex storyline but summed up its revealed that the Clone survived. Then Peter is actually tricked into believing that he was the Clone this whole time since the original Clone Saga, this naturally pissed off so many Spider-Man fans. Peter (Thinking he was the Clone) left New York with his wife Mary Jane, leaving Ben (Who we the reader thought was the original Peter) to pick up the mantle of Spider-Man.
After the reveal that our Peter was in fact not the Clone he took up the mantle of Spider-Man again while Ben became The Scarlet Spider in 1994 rocking his classic outfit with the blue hoodie over a really cool red Spider-Man outfit. The Ben Riley in this movie is a Variant of his Earth-616 counterpart from Earth-94 a fun nod to Web of Spider-Man Vol 1 118 from 1994 the first appearance of The Scarlet Spider.
Insomniac Spider-Man (Earth-1048)
The Spider-Man we see in between the two video game characters locked away is actually the Spider-Man of the latest Spider-Man games. You can easily spot him with the white Spider Symbol and he's even voiced by Yuri Lowenthal who voices Spider-Man in the games. In terms of the history of this Spider-Man it's extremally similar to the mainline Spider-Man from the comics but with Insomniac's own spin on the characters.
Hobie Brown (Earth-138)
Hobie, Spider-Man of Earth-138 is so cool and was actually bitten by a spider irradiated by illegal waste dumping taking up the title Spider-Man. He began to fight for freedom alongside his friend Captain Anarchy, heavily inspired and based on Captain America. He became the leader of the Spider Army fighting against President Ozzy Osborn's oppression.
The "Little Spider-Man" (Earth-26496)
This little guy who spoke to Miles is from The Spectacular Spider-Man (2008 to 2009) Animated Series voiced by Josh Keaton who also voices him in Across the Spider-Verse. You could also see Spectacular Spider-Man's Uncle Ben's death in one of the Canon Nods that showed all the deaths of Uncle Ben. I do find it funny that people have dubbed him "Little Spider-Man" as in his art style he's pretty tiny when beside the other Spider-People but the show is so good.
And of course a bunch of other Web Slingers with most of the background ones just being Spider-People in different suits the Mainline Spider-Man has worn throughout the comics and then the designers gave them different body sizes and genders.
I'm glad you're getting into "Superhero" films and seeing that the genre itself is so large and diverse. I personally believe it's impossible to "hate" Superhero film's as all it really means is a Hero with a "power" that makes them Super. From Power Rangers to Robocop, Darkman, The Crow, The Rocketeer, Hellboy etc. There all extremally different but still Superhero's. Anything really could be classed as "Superhero" but I think when alot of people think of Superhero's they think of the classic cape stuff like Superman etc.
On 1610B Steph Curry is a golfer instead of a basketball player, (he does golf as well in our universe,) like he’s got a whole electronic billboard about his golf as seen when Peter B arrived in 1610 during the events of Into the Spider-verse.)
Missed your videos so much!!! So excited for this video I absolutely loved this movie 😍🥰 my day is made 🫶
Ahh thank you! Hope you enjoy it :D
New Jersey is literally across the river from NYC; Princeton University is an hour train ride form NYC, too. The joke is that there’s so much to do and so much life happens in NYC that a lot of them hardly go to New Jersey (and most would never imagine to) even though it’s so close.
Welchy: Right, Sony? I'm gonna need you to calm down with the twists
Sony: Nah, I don't feel like it
😂😭
Fun fact: The lego universe scene was animated by a 14 year old kid!
I really enjoyed your reaction the best out of all the ones I've seen, you don't pretend to magically figure it all out like the majority of people who've gone online, gotten the info then pretend they're so smart 😅....
Miles & Gwen best superhero couple I've seen in a while
Man that bagel really hit the spot
I’m with you Welchy, i jus watched the movie 2 days ago. Our mental fortitude and determination to come into the movie as fresh as we could 😤
You need to watch the Andrew Garfield and Toby McGuire Spiderman(s? Spidermen?) 😭
I love this movie and the first, they are such works of art and i enjoy the plots and characters, but this movie for sure when i seen it in theaters left me in awe. The art styles and mediums they used are absolutely breathtaking to watch. And the music just perfects it
Love the channel and the content! Hope your doing well!!
And fun fact, Gwen's theme is the og spiderman theme either backwards or styled with guitar and such idk just kinda cool
Very clever intro 👏🏻👏🏻
Miguel says that Miles is the reaskn spot exists
But soot was the one who brought the spider from another world, not Miles
Spot is the reason Miles exists and Miles created Spot.
It's a feed back loop.
Watching your reaction to this gem has been so entertaining, I love this.
Happy to find another Spot stan!
Definitely one of the best animated movies of 2023
you should do a harry potter marathon
Dude, your face turned so orange for a sec when you lost your mind trying to process alternate Miles Morales 30:20 😅
I’ve been waiting for the mcu reactions. Please continue with the journey, there’s still a long way to go before it starts to go downhill😂😂
19-99999 is the universe number for the mcu and hes refering to the most recent spiderman movie with toby maguire and andrew gardield
In the theaters for a split second I also thought uncle Aaron (42) punched Miles and made his head explode, and physically jumped in my seat and gasped.
i watched this movie reaction... is ist the Best Video of you yet? Hell yeah! I laughed a lot. thx for that and keep up the good work 😄
I got to finish it before seeing your video. my brain is still processing what happen. and pleaseeee I hope they'll release the part 3 soon! I can't believe they did that
17:43 Miguel when the canon event was disrupted
I'm so ready for this!!!!!
Ayyyy
"is that a robot crab?"
In a spider man movie your first thought is crab and not, you know, a spider ?
10:06 That's Mrs. Chen from Venom, so yes, she's seen some shit.
Miguel's fangs and claws come from ACTUAL spiders. This is because he has more Spider DNA in him than most other Spider-Men and Women.
Read his comics, and you'll know how he got his powers.
"I hope Spot kills someone" 8:28
Well... uh just wait a couple years! (I hope not)
for context on the "New Jersey is too far from NY??", my school had a trip to NY, we had a Hotel in NJ, thats how close they are.
'A lot of death, but not enough death' me when an entire universe collapses and kills everyone but only one side character died in the event
I love that intro to the video 😂; atsv is peak
it wasnt like Miles beat every version of spiderman because he was better than everyone else but because everyone was getting in the way of each other because Spiderman Works best as a solo act and when there is an entire legion of Spidermen that means that they wont know how to coordinate an attack on a single target
and when everyone is trying to catch Miles and Miles being the only using his spider sense to avoid everyone else is the only one trying to avoid everyone coming at him hence
and Spider sense is a defensive measure and if Miles is the only one using it defensively while everyone else is on the offensive it now makes sense why Miles was able to deter every Spiderman
Love that lil intro
I love watching reactors go "Just take off your mask, Gwen" and then the dawning horror as they realize that Captain Stacy is STILL GONNA SHOOT HIS DAUGHTER
To answer that video title: yes, yes it is 😊
This was a delight to watch, thank you.
Noo thank you for watching! 😊
The way He says Males Morales is so pleasing ahah
Man I love your appretiation for Spot👌🏻✨ cos same
17:00 me in the cinema wondering when tf I bought tickets for a horror movie:
The intro whyyyy 🤣
i love your reaction to the british joke xD
My favorite movie commentator loving/reacting to ATSV??? My life is complete
“Mmm~, The bagel hit the spot 🥯”
Spiderman1:I looked at my uncle and then😢
Spiderman2:let me guess he die🙄
I can't believe Love from the H3 podcast has his own channel now
I love how they made one of the most lame villains into one of the most threatening
hobie is the coolest character ever excuse me.
Do you ever plan to react to some tv shows/series? Arcane is really good, and I feel like Helluva Boss would also fit with your humor :D
Anywho great vid as always!!
That's my favorite shirt of yours! You look good 😍
the intro thing kinda fire af editing
Thank you!
One of your next videos should be either Open Season or Surf’s Up
You should watch everything everywhere all at once because this movie connects to everything everywhere all at once and i bet youll cry
lol... really funny reaction to this great movie... :DDDDD
For reference from someone who’s mom lived in Princeton, New Jersey growing up; NYC is like… an hour or two train ride. Which is nothing for a lot of Americans when it comes to visiting family 😅😅😅
You should watch everything everywhere all at once the movie literally changed my view of life
I love spiderverse sm!!
But welchy, will u ever watch nimona? I also love it :'D
It’s not that he’s stronger or better. It’s just that every Spider-Man and spider woman could run away from all the spider people so they’re all the same😮😮
welchy watching across the spiderverse 🤯 time to click
8:48 and Pause. Earth-42 Miles Morales.
I found your channel again 🥺❤
What happened?!!
I believe they said that Gambino is the MCU version of Prowler. would be dope to see him in Spidey 4
Yes
welchy ngl i thought that was you in the beginning
The policeman in this movie looks like the policeman from cloudy with a chance of meatballs
All the characters are from a marvel comic, they show the comic issue before introducing each character too!
"I hope Spot kills someone." Hmm.. :|
Do a movie commentary reaction on Tick Tick boom?🙏🏼
Miles cannot beat all the Spider people, he just out ran them
FINALLY someone else that doesnt friendship Gwen and Miles.
I just cant i can only see them as friends
Yes finally
Miguel is Irish/Mexican mix.
Watching your video. Reactions are is always such a treat. Thank you so much for all your videos. I hope you please please watch a Goofy Movie soon. It is one that I think you would really enjoy or critique the fuck out of. Pardon my language.