Why SOUNDGARDEN BROKE UP
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With the release of their fourth studio album, 1994’s Superunknown, Soundgarden were on top of the world. In 1994 alone Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam and Soundgarden would all have number 1 albums.If you include late 1993, Nirvana had one too with their unplugged record As Soundgarden released their follow up in 1996, Down on the Upside, the band were teetering on imploding. Maybe it wasn’t surprising given that things had changed for the big seattle bands - alice in chains was limping along due to substance abuse, nirvana was done, and Pearl Jam were still embroiledi n their battle with Ticketmaster and still not doing music videos. Soundgarden were coming to terms with their success. In today’s video, let’s talk about why Soundgarden fell apart the first time.
Formed in Seattle in 1984, Soundgarden would blend metal and punk rock resulting in a sludgy sound. In 1987 they released their Screaming Life EP through fledgling Seattle label Sub Pop. They would release 1988’s Ultramega Ok on SST Recorde.. Then Soundgarden became the first major Seattle band from that era to ink a deal with a major label, signing with A&M Records. They released their major label debut in 1989 with Louder Than Love and returned in 1991 with Badmotorfinger, a record still held up as their best work by many fans. It was also by the early 90’s the band cemented their classic lineup with frontman Chris Cornell, guitarist Kim Thayil, bassist Ben Sheppard and drummer Matt Cameron. Though they were hailed as one of the big 4 bands from Seattle and the more experienced their peers - Nirvana, Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains enjoyed success much earlier than they did.
Thayil would tell Revolver "
"I remember the Nirvana guys wanting to be on Sub Pop, saying we were their favorite band," he continues. "The first time I met Kurt Cobain, I told him how much I loved their 'Love Buzz' single, and he said, 'Well, consider yourself our biggest influence.' These were the things that were important to us at the time."
Following the release of their third album 1991’s album Bad Motorfinger, guitarist kim Thayil recalled hearing several songs Chris Cornell had demoed for their follow up superunknown. These songs included spoonman, let me drown and black hole sun. He recalled thinking that there’s probably a few singles amongst those songs. It was at a metallica gig before superunknown came out that the guitarist spoke to metallica’s manager Cliff Bernstein who told him Soundgarden was following the same career path as metallica, telling him their next album would be their breakout hit and he was right. 1994’s Superunknown was massive, selling an impressive six million copies stateside and giving the band some of their most popular songs - black hole sun, spoonman, fell on black days, and The Day I Tried to live.
The tour for superunknown represented the first time the members of Soundgarden would do their own headlining shows with an extensive stage production. Drummer Matt Cameron would tell Greg Prato “For the most part it was pretty fun. Then towards the end of that tour, Kurt Died and i think the whole fabric of the group was starting to unravel a bit.”
Thayil would clarify that at this point in the band’s career, there wasn’t really any interpersonal tensions but rather it was stressful always being on the road and dealing with emotions without their support system especially after Kurt Cobain died adding “it wasn’t fair. We didn’t get to drive and be around our family during that period. We were supposed to be on the road and that’s when it sucked. People dying out the seattle music scene wasn’t supposed ot happen.”
Maybe foreshadowing the upcoming problems the band would face, the last date of the superunknown tour did not go well. Thayil would recall to greg prato Our last show was at memorial stadium in seattle - a really bad show. Chris’ voice was having a really fucked up time. When the show was over he just walked off stage got in a car and took off”
When it came time to begin working on their follow up album 1996’s Down on the Upside, the roles in teh band were slowly shifting. The group’s then manager and wife of Chris Cornell Susan Silver - เพลง
CORRECTION: Nirvana's unplugged was broadcast in 1993 but CD came out in late 1994. So big 4 from Seattle had number 1 records within the span of a year.
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Badmotorfinger really is a masterpiece. I enjoy the fact it is so unpolished, just straight grunge.
Yeah it's a great black Sabbath album
@@johnny2demax Lol. Indeed influenced by Sabbath.
Love both bands, always remember a review in 94 'soundgarden has made the best black Sabbath album this year' despite Sabbath actually releasing an album that year.
@@johnny2demax Soundgarden > Sabbath
@@ariescustom ah no
Limo Wreck is such a good song.
R.I.P Chris.
That chorus is killer!
Ever tried to sing it in the shower? You go alright for awhile and then you end up imploding and gasping for breath. Chris was the man
Pretty Noose
The most endearing thing about Soundgarden was Chris learning to sing in front of the world, that warbled scream turned into one of the greatest.
My best friend introduced me to Soundgarden in 1990. He even bought Louder Than Love at a Seattle record store and mailed it to my house, because I could not find that album where I lived.
Load Love was a song Chris wrote about him & Susan.
It took a while but after Chris’s death I couldn’t listen to any Soundgarden or Audioslave. Is a shame Chris couldn’t get the help he needed to heal… I still miss him
I actually cried when he died... it's weird because I've never cried over a death until his happened
Why? Did you know him personally??
@@johnny2demax if someone had a positive impact, you can still miss them when said person passes away. Look at Christina Grimmie for example
@@graffittitagger65I also cried and I'm not really sure why
@@johnny2demax why? Do we need to know him?
The Rock N’ Roll world loves and misses you deeply, Chris.
✌🏻❤️🙏🏻
One of the Greatest bands to ever exist. R.I.P. Chris
8:05 Blow Up The Outside World is one of my favorite songs ever
I stopped listening to rock during the glam years. Badmoterfinger brought me back.
Excactky
Same here. I was on to metal and rap and some Queensryche. Beastie Boys and Public Enemy. Then I heard BLEACH. Holy shit. That was a game changer. Then, it was SG for me. Spoonman was doing his thing at Pike Place Market....good times
@@musicmatters4357My older sister is super smart and has an impeccable taste in music. I raided her CD booklet for bands like Portishead, Bjork, and an obscure band called “The Hunger” they sounded like a prog version if alice in chains. vanishing cream is their best song
85 through 90 glam rock was a parody of itself. Especially right at the end. The ballads were the worst. I cut of my mullet and called it quits.
Slayer existed then. Metallica existed then.
There were a lot of good bands during the 'hair metal' era, which I agree was pathetic. Even Judas Priest took a dive when they released 'Turbo,' which was by far their worst album.
But their was plenty of good metal being made. Sepultura, Kreator, Venom...just so many great bands.
It wasn't all hopeless, thank God LOL.
Looking back on his dark lyrics it was only a matter of time. I miss him so much and then Chester taking his life afterwards on Chris’s birthday was another tragedy I took hard.
That’s called symbolic ritual. These guys weren’t depressed, they were taken out.
@@michaelwills1926 Everyone is entitled to their opinions or theories but if you say his lyrics weren’t written from a severely depressed person you’re not listening plus Chris said multiple times in interviews he had been severely depressed.
Still not convinced that either of them died by his own hand.
@@ImYourOverlord That's because you wear tinfoil hats instead of baseball caps (or any other headwear people prefer).
@@MarkMay-cr6bv *ROTFL* Uh, no :D
I saw a more recent interview with Matt Cameron, where he's asked the same question, and his response is:
"Chris quit.
He wanted to just do other stuff.
I think he was under a lot of pressure from the industry.
He was the focal point, the voice; he was that guy.
Everyone wanted to interview him, everybody wanted to photograph him, you know?
And to his credit he really did a great job in that whole promotion world.
Better than the rest of us did.
But I think after a while it wasn't fun, you know?
And the great thing about our band is that we always had a great time together.
[...] the last tour [...] for sure there was some tension backstage and there was a lot of drinking by people other than myself, but you know, those things happen and fuckin', it's the way it works sometimes" .
Brilliant band! Thanks for sharing. RIP Chris.🙏
I could have gone my whole life not knowing that the unit that is Randy Johnson played drums, let alone on a SG song. Amazing
I was at game one of the World Series in Phoenix in 2001. It was a requirement of a halfway house that I had to work this game printing food to the club seats or whatever they were called near the front behind homeplate. I was new to town then and what a game it was!
Rock Legends meet sports legends there. The interesting to hear that demo because I've heard about it for years
@@SST4SSG wow man thats awesome, thanks for sharing!
While Pearl Jam and Nirvana are the kings of grunge, my favorite grunge band of all-time might be Soundgarden (Alice in Chains is neck and neck with them).
Chris Cornell, thank you for your awesome voice and amazing contributions to the music industry. Rest in Power, man.
Cornell is the only king of Grunge
@@matasbutkus4071 Kurt Cobain and Eddie Vedder fans might disagree with you.
I love Cornell though.
It's funny to me that Soundgarden broke out last in mainstream popularity.....they were the first I heard of them all, by years. Louder Than Love was popular in my friend group and extended friends.
I think its nearly impossible for bands at that level to stay close and not get into fights over royalty splits, songs on an upcoming album, etc.
That's what's so astonishing about Pearl Jam. (Unfortunately, it's far more astonishing than the music they make.)
That's what I've always found astonishing about the band Tool as well.
@@ShEDDiNgmYSkiN didnt maynard say his bandmates are big personalities that cant fit into one room? what do u find astonishing?
@lol-wj4hx Astonishing that they're still together after all this time. Astonishing that they figured out how to get around each other's personalities and still make music.
I still remember the first time I heard Soundgarden - one late night Saturday, at Super Channel -This guy looking like Jesus and singing his lungs out (The song was "Outshined") but in a much more powerfull away than I had ever seen anyone sing before... I was 16 years at the time and I was hooked for life... I was also very fortunate to see them live in 91 when they came to Lisbon supporting Metallica. Unfortunately, I also remember the day I opened the newspaper and read the article about the bands demise.... Cheers from Portugal
The first time I heard outshined I was blown away
Hey I love your videos. You should also talk about these bands: SOiL, Sevendust, Shinedown, & Smile Empty Soul to name a few
I enjoyed their work and when i heard about CC's death i was devastated. I enjoyed all of his acoustic work and his acoustic performances of "thank you" & "Nothing compares." They're both masterpieces. RIP Chris.
Your videos are always full of fantastic details and insight. Thanks for all the work you and your team do.
Rusty Cage is still a ripper. My buddies went to KC to see them, he punched his own ticket a day or two later.
Saw them on Lollapalooza 2014 Chile, it was AMAZING the only time Soundgarden came to Chile thank u Chris what an AMAZING BAND
Such good musicians and such amazing song writiting. Matt Cameron is still my fav drummer, to this day.
Singles was one of my favorite movies as a kid and The Black Hole Sun video was everything. Actually, Chris Cornell was everything growing up. That crush began in middle school and continues on today. My husband and I were heartbroken when he passed.
Thank you for the post! 🤘🏻✌🏼😊
You’re welcome
@@rnrtruestories 👍🏻😊
Thanks dude. I was lucky enough to see Chris play here in Calgary in 2016.
I remember wanting to go see them with NIN sometime around 2014 I think
I never fully recovered from that day when the news of Chris reached me via radio.
What was equally as haunting, but also really strange and rather ironic was the fact that it was on the same day that Ian Curtis of Joy Division died back in 1980 under much similar circumstances.
@justinharvey1355 you’re right that is weird.. 37 years to the day and they went out in the same way.
RIP to both Ian Curtis and Chris Cornell
The world would be a much better place if Chris was still around. Miss him so much every day.
RIP ✝️
I was at the last show on Maui. I could see them fighting backstage a lot. It was really bad when he whipped his bass down. After that was one of the most incredible live music songs I’ve ever seen. Chris walked out on stage alone with the black telecaster and did a solo rendition of Black Hole Sun, I’ll never forget
Matt Cameron is easily one of the best drummers to come out of that era. I kinda try and channel him, Buddy Rich and Keith Moon while playing.
Carter Buford kills it too
Great band with amazingly talented singer! RIP Chris! 🤘😎
Great band. Needed more great music from them.
Man, I just want to say that I love what you do. Great research, well informed. Good delivery, you have a real knack for summarizing complicated stories. Rock on!
Of the bands that came from that time and place,I have had the most personal experience with and love for the music that Nirvana put out. But over time I've come to realize that the greatest of those bands was Soundgarden. Man...they truly were one for the history books. Absolutely phenomenal.
I never saw them in person. I had a chance exactly two weeks before Chris died. I was busy, and I thought I would always have another chance. That is something I will always regret. Though I was never a huge fan of Soundgarden as much as I was of some of the other Seattle bands, there is no question that Chris Cornell was one of the most talented vocalists to ever live, and he was still getting better. He left us way too soon.
I worked event security during their last tour. They hated each other. Seperate dressing rooms.
You mean last tour in 90s or last tour in 2017?
Saw Soundgarden in the summer of '96 at Lollapalooza. From what I remember they put on a good show. Didn't pick up on any tension or issues in the band at least.🤷♂
Great show. At the end of their set, the band left the stage and Chris sang "Black Hole Sun" solo. So great.
we we're eating loads of acid and other stuff by 96, was a great time to be alive
I wish Soundgarden had just taken a hiatus because their comeback album was awesome and I feel we missed some great music
Thanks 4 posting.
Man am I ever glad I got a chance to see them once. Had NO idea Chris played rhythm guitar...how could when he sings like that?! Too talented..
He was a drummer before that too I think. Crazy how talented people are. Creative lyricist too.
He was a drummer first.
I do feel like playing rhythm guitar holds him back a lot vocally
Lotta guys do. Bradley Nowell played all guitar for Sublime while singing, Kurt Cobain used to, Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Beck, its a super long list, and it wouldn't surprise me if Chris Cornell played all the guitar tracks on Soundgarden albums
@@electriceyeball Yes but those guys are doing complicated guitar parts with simple vocals or vice-versa. Something like 'Jesus Christ pose' is hard enough on just one of those, let alone both.
Favorite band next to Opeth. My kids now love them.
It has always been Soundgarden #1, AiC, Pearl Jam and then Nirvana in that order. Out of the Seattle music scene.
I loved their last album King Animal.
Had a Badmotorfinger decal on my car window 1992 the spiral one
RIP ANGELS 😇
I remember watching Black Hole Sun every time it came on MTV in my mom's San Leandro studio with her nodded out in bed lol. Actually good memories minus all the heroin and neglect. Grunge really spoke to me.. couldn't get enough.
I was more upset about Chris' death than anything. Loved Soundgarden
thanks for story. R.I.P Chris
Chris had the voice of an angel. One of my favorite performances of him is Sinead O’Connors Nothing compares 2 U
I love the riff on Pretty Noose. They may have been taking a more commercial direction with Badmotorfinger and after but their more raw albums before that just didn't seem to suit them. Some bands get worse with more polish, System of a Down is a great example. Their debut was full of jagged energy but when they recorded Hypnotize and Mesmerize they lost all of it. These guys got better the more refined they became.
Chris foreseen his own demise, hence Pretty Noose
Getting warmer....odd how many Rockstars die in similar ways.
Buddy, PLEASE get a new fucking lava lamp THAT WORKS. Jesus, it’s like $30
Cornells vocal issues aside the 1996 shows were actually solid instrumentally all things considered.
Always wondered why Soundgarden broke up 💔 great explanation 👍 thanks for the information
Chris Cornell was a songwriting genius that comes around only once in a lifetime. For a minute, the world became a much more bearable place when Soundgarden reunited. His death is in equal par with Lennon for music in general.
Lennon and Chris fluff Morrison before he does gigs in heaven and hell
@Spooky Comment of the week right there.
This breakup really got to me at the time 😞 they were definitely one of my top bands
King Animal is actually my favorite Soundgarden album...Well, actually it may be a tie between Down On The Upside and King Animal.
I LOVE Down On the Upside. Didnt know they were in such a bad zone
I love and miss them ❤ R.I.P Chris Cornell ❤
The only band that I could connect with during that time. Still miss Chris....
STP- Purple was #1 as well and sold over 6 million copies in 1994
I was really disappointed when I first heard Spoonman when it first came out. Soundgarden definitely became a pop band then. Loud Love and Badmotorfinger are awesome.
When on tour always have your therapists number on your phone. When I hit the road my therapist keeps me focused and I leave drama for reflections afterwards...RIP Chris 🙏✌️🤘🥁🎸⚖️🇦🇺
Tighter & Tighter is my all time favorite song. It should have been released as a single.
Bummer to have lost them. “King Animal” is an amazing album.
@10:12 My advice to you would be to get someone to proofread the title cards.
Did Kurt just tell people they were his biggest influence? Thought pixies were now its soundgarden. I get you can have multiple influences, but seems everyone that Kurt talks to was his biggest influence
The guy could sing.
Not for long. His voice was shit by' 96.
6:00 a soundgarden song with Randy Johnson the big unit on drums??? Where’s Ken Griffey Jr Edgar Martinez and A Rod
It's odd. My favourite songs on most albums aren't the big singles. On Superunknown, I listen to Head Down, Limo Wreck and Fresh Tendrils the most.
Mailman all the way
Melbourne Big Day Out January 23rd 1994: They were incandescent.
Melbourne Festival Hall January 26th 1997: They were tired and distracted, and broke up 2 weeks later. The difference was painfully apparent.
I wrote the press release announcing they broke up
Stone Temple Pilots aren't from Seattle, but they are up there with Pearl Jam and Nirvana, and Soundgarden. Core and Purple are great records.
down on upside sounds great and has some good songs, but u can tell the juice was dryin out
The industry that made them also destroyed them. Very tragic. They deserved better.
got to see them in 97 , was a good show other than the beating I took , should of kept my mouth shut , lesson learned
Yeah they (Soundgarden) were on top of the world in the mid nineties. Except for the fact that they were not yet inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame. Same goes for Alice In Chains as well. IDK maybe they need a much better facility or building because there is a little band named Nirvana that have been inducted., and I definitely don't consider either of the three bands better or more talented than the other. They all had about the same amount of exposure. So what's the hold up!!!
When the fuck are they gonna put out that final album?
I thought the band and Vicky had resolved their legalities in court and come to an agreement- so why haven’t they released it..
Nobody sings like you anymore... R.I.P. Chris Cornell
Overexposure killed a lot of the 90s / grunge era bands. During the early 90s you couldn't turn on the radio without hearing an STP, Alice in Chains or Soundgarden song, and they played the same ones over and over and over again. I suppose it happens in every generation, Zeppelin probably wore out their welcome in the late 70s/ early 80s, but the 90s were ridiculous.
It just breaks my heart that all these rock stars end up dying alone with nobody around. Kurt. Cornell. Layne. Joey Jordison. Prince. The list goes on and on. It just breaks my heart man!! 💔💔
60's Musicians: Peace, love, LSD..
70's Musicians: Peace, pot, microdot..
80's Musicians: Cocaine
90's Musicians: Depression
Anyone else see a pattern here?
I'm betting they broke up partially because they were getting tired of being called Savage Garden
Savage Garden didn't put an album out until '97 so I doubt your failed attempt at an amusing comment holds any weight.
@@andybaker6088 I'm terribly sorry that I don't know when that gay fxcking one hit wonder band came out. But I have heard people accidentally refer to Sound Garden as Savage Garden. And it's no knock on them, they're right behind Nirvana as being the best of the grunge era.
The only time I was bummed when a band broke up.
Spoon Man is hysterically bad
IMO Soundgarden were the best of the Big 4. By a wide margin. Cornell was head and shoulders above Cobain as a musician and songwriter.
I saw them in the mid-nineties and they were clearly not on good terms with each other. It was a drag.
At 5:34 that's a sweet SG-style guitar Kim has. It doesn't appear to be a Gibson. I can't read the headstock logo but it resembles "Guild". But Guild doesn't have this body style of guitar.
Yes, it's a Guild.
@@vorpalblades Thanks a bunch.
Then this past year Robert Smith of The Cure called Tickemaster and said they would cancel their world tour.I phone call. Saw then 10x but some were 2 shows on the same tour.
What
@@WinterInTheForest I was refering to the time Pearl Jam went to court and had to player smaller venues. The tried to lower ticket prices. Also 2 days ago Ticketmaster was hacked.
I think it made a certain amount of sense for Soundgarden to move on, otherwise change their sound which would piss off people because that grunge sound was not really popular by the mid 90's despite I really enjoyed the singles off of Down on the Upside
I went to the show in memorial stadium that they mentioned. You could see that Chris was struggling that night. I assumed that they were experiencing technical difficulties. He kept turning his back to the crowd and looking at someone off stage. I saw Soundgarden live 4 times. That was the only bad one. The other three sounded better than the records.
room a thousand years wide
Wait i don’t remember you ever showing your face before?!?!!
Been doing it in every video since last April
When Soundgarden broke up they had already been together twice as long as most bands. I'm glad they got back together before Cornell passed. Him and Michael Jackson are the only two celeb deaths I've ever felt saddened by because I'm genuinely disappointed I won't get to hear more material from either.
Superunknown is a masterpiece. I can get that at the time it might have seemed more commercial, but in hindsight it's their most diverse and experimental album. It wasn't a safe record by any stretch of the imagination, and it had all four members of the band contributing to songwriting. It's extremely rare for bands to get to the level that Soundgarden reached on that album. It's sad that the death of Kurt and the state of the industry ended up leading to the demise of the band.
It was a more commercial sounding album by 1994 standards. They played Black Hole Sun CONSTANTLY!!! lol. The rest of the album was good but it does sound as though it was made for radio and MTV as far as the production went.
We still mourn all of our banshee heroes.
Best band ever.
I feel like they are the most underrated of the big from Seattle. They were a great band and Cornell was one of the best
None of the big 4 from Seattle have ever once been underrated in any way
@@randall9000 I was saying the most underrated out of them 4
@@MrMeek79 no not even out of the 4. They had possibly the greatest rock singer of all time, the best drummer in Seattle, and were pretty much the first to make it big (with Badmotorfinger). Never been underrated in any way
I loved his voice ever since hearing Hands All Over about a million years ago. I was okay until later that day when they said "took his own life" and I just started crying. Still can't listen to Room A Thousand Years Wide or watch the live video of When I'm Down.
Down the Upside was a great album. I liked it better than Superunknown. My favorite track on Superunknown is Head Down.