I think its good bc it allowed Kishore to address US/EU mainsteam media narratives on camera. Not that I think the host or audience were able to comprehend a perspective outside of their own though ..
Oh my goodness. It's like watching a tennis match between Roger Federer and a amateurish club level player. Kishore is so patiently but articulately telling her how narrow her worldview is and how little she truly understands what's going on in China.
It's incredible how diplomatic Kishore is in having to deal with these obtuse questions from Europeans who think the world revolves around them. Fantastic job.
Incredibly, all comments and questions were unanimous. Should we think the political science academics in Poland all think this way? Or these are young students?
Kishore is great....I know how deeply entrenched the Polish are within the Anglo sphere of thought and it makes it extra interesting he shares his perspectives here
Thank you professor Kishore, for giving me some laughters at the humorous manner you deal with difficult questions from the Europeans. I say 'difficult' because the Europeans cannot phrase the questions clearly, very messy, difficult to understand . Always love your intelligent speech. You spoke simple English, but very clear and can be easily understood . You are great. From a singaporean
Watching this really make me laugh at the Polish moderator & those that ask the question, this really show the low standards of the Polish community where they don't see the big picture & only narrow narrative which the Asia don't subscribe, well done Prof Kishore 👏👏👏
Yes agree. But I think this is a result of bureaucrats in EU who speaks for Europeans nations but they are not elected 😂 They talk n talk but policies useless for the National independent nations. 😅
The West has an epidemic of narcissism on national level. These people literally tried to rebuke his arguments with "it's OK if we do it, but not others."
Professor Mahbubani is so good in explaining the history and economics to East Europe. I think many European countries are still brain wash by U.S. and the EU economy is suffering as happening now. Professor answering her questions very well and as truthful as possible. He is trying to wake up the EU countries on how is all link together when it comes to business.
If the host's understanding of the world is typical of that of the Polish intellectuals and politicians, then Poland will be groping in the dark for a long time to come.
I have met some Polish and I can assure you they have some sharp minds with a lot of knowledge. This confusion here is due to a deep discrepancy between reality and the propaganda installed to service US interests. People are confused.
@@Ra-mx4bo I stayed to get a feel of the calibre and psyche of the Polish elite. It is not positive. These guys are both ignorant and arrogant. A bad combination.
At the end she literally said to prof. Kishore : "I mostly do not agree of your thoughts" 🤣😵 she didn't even try to learn the nuance, rationality and objectivity Kishore had been sharing for the sake of europe
Kishore is a deep deep thinker and a great intellectual. I love his talks. I agree with him that there will be no war in the Pacific, Asian cultures are inherently less prone to violence when talks and negotiation is available. Regarding Ukraine, ukraine walked into a war with eyes wide open.
It isn’t that we Asians are less prone to violence… Japanese killed probably more people than German did during 2nd world war….We Asians simply learnt from our past mistakes as we are pragmatic people….
The professor has repeatedly said that geopolitics is a cruel game, and almost asked the host if she understood the reason why Poland often disappears from the map. In short, Poland has not yet learned enough lessons on this issue.
She is trying so hard to demonize China for not taking the European side, but he reasons with the learnings of ASEAN and China towards peace in the region. She still came off frustrated.
Looks like a father struggling to tell his teenage kid how to survive in this complicated world and deal with problems pragmatically so that doesn't have to pay a hefty price to learn.
More like an uncle stealing niece's weekly allowance and promote his book. Kishore is a China compromised diplomat. Kishore what did China offer you? more book sales, shares of Alibaba taken from Jack Ma, or something worse?
Europe is so doomed. First time i visited Asia back in 2006 and it was shocking to realize how slow, narrow-minded and actually "dead". Europe is. Happy that I managed to set up a life in Asia. Cordial, hard-working,and pragmatic people
Sorry! I did finish the interviewed with a special guest Prof. Mahbubani. At the end the host said rudely aid and she said she didn't agree with Mahbubani. That's fine but she continued it hard for Poland to adopt and hard to change. That's fine go back the way you want as usual follow the U.S. rules and see what happen to Germany, the two Nort Stream pipelines have been destroyed by U.S. Now, the German's economy is in trouble for many years to come. But you don't have right to tell India, China or Asean countries to agree with EU with on the Ukraine war.
A Polish moderator asking Kishore why Russia decided to invade Ukraine!! OMG!! The level of naiveté, of ignorance and or is it plain innocence is just mind boggling.
Putin made multiple speeches on why Russia invaded Ukraine. It is not difficult to find and read them. One can believe or not believe him. One can agree or disagree with him. But there is no point to psychoanalyze Putin or any politician on their real motivations. How would anyone really know? Yet the media and the internet are full of shrinks doing this.
@@robertthong1926 may be kishore does not want to provoke russia into bombing poland after he is finished with ukrain .all eastern european countries must make a pragmatic deal with russia and be good friends with russia ,good friends with america and very good friends with europe ,if they fail to keep interest of big power's their fate will be same as -you know who ,
Have to say it’s a very strange format, where the host has the final say. Isn’t it typical to give your guests the final word? Sounds to me like you only want to have someone to say things that you want to have validated.
One feature of Asia which is lacking in the West is respect for elders. Prof Mahbubani presents cogent arguments based on many years of study and experience. The emotional responses of the crowd suggesta difficult future for Poland.
@@vijayarajan3276 . Generally speaking, you are right about some Asians, but not so in areas where they are not "talkative" (seemingly introverted), like Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans, but perhaps can be accorded to less communicative ability.
@@huatchyetan8830 Well, it's not easy here to keep an open mind when the propaganda is so extreme and strong. Most of it comes from US and Europe just repeated it. Kind of funny that the Continent that started the Colonial era now is an inconsequential colony with no independent voice. Perhaps its needed, we can learn a bit of humility from it and start seeing the world in a different way. USA on the other hand will need a deep economic crisis, and that is coming. When I don't know but there is no question that it's on its way.
Glad to see Kishore traveling all the way to Europe and making connections there. I hear only pessimism out of the audience. My impression is the Poles is incapable of thinking ina world where the West is no longer dominant. Poles are living in the 1990's.
they live in a way that i did when i was young and loved watching Hollywood movies from john wayne to superman..., and thought that the USA was sent by god to save the world...
It's an example of what propaganda does to people, the difference between reality and the nonsense being spread is too big, so people have to make an effort to believe in it. This is the result.
Europe used to be allies of USA because in the past they jointed the raids and then they got to share plenty of the spoilts. This time they will soon wake up to the fact that they have to put in a lot of efforts,often to Europe's detriment,but no spoilts to share .Example : the Ukraine conflifict. Europe will find itself in many more situations like Ukraine where it had to sacrifice itself for US's well being
This will not be the last visit of a wise man to a CIRCUS 😂 Must be incredibly entertaining to prof kishore… I definitely enjoyed every second of the video 😂
@@TacticalMayo that’s because as Asian we are pragmatic peace loving people who know how to avoid wars within ourselves… on top of that, we are also well informed on the debt problem of the western countries and well aware of the fact that the west are financially incapable to start a war….😂
@@TheAlbert18361 you have to be out your mind to think you would not get a full-blown world War trying to take the place of the United States as the number one economy in the world. Everyone knows surpassing the United States is the red line that ends all life on Earth but China still wants to cross that line anyways. Being number two to the United States is not an option but Armageddon is ☢️
Im a Pole and im ashamed of "level" of our think tanks. Thx God we have Strategy and Futere with Jacek Bartosiak in charge, who has the same mental maps like guest.
Remember, she is a China Expert but without much knowledge of China !!!...So she was trying to gain as much information from Kishore now by taking all the time asking questions than presenting to the floor.
When we invite a guest to hear his opinion we should take this opportunity to learn his perspective. We can disagree but we should take the most from it. Dear PISM learn from this brutal experience - you were faced with reality, deal with it.
Actually the Poles were very polite. They let Mahbubani talk and didn't interrupt him. This is remarkable considering that their views are totally in the opposite of Mahbubani's. If this had been held in US on a talk show, Mahbubani would not have been able to talk for 10seconds without being interrupted.
She is evidently an avid consumer of the narratives of the western mainstream media and wearing her misplaced emotional sentiments on her sleeve is an embarrassment.
About d Russian Ukrainian conflict, the Poles are quite selective n chosed to ignore certain things..like persecution of Russian Ukrainians, NATO eastward expansion, etc..haha
After the event in Smoleńsk in 2010, the Poles played a weird game of dubious pro-propaganda with the US EU and Russian, it is very weird game, and you only need to look at Ukraine now. A jungle world of bio and nuke, drones and missiles ... but they survived the Hitler Stalin 6-years war and the 40-years cold war , so this was ment to be so.
Although she keeps saying Russia is the aggressor, most of the non European world does not see Russia as an aggressor. Russia would not have invaded Ukraine if the US had not been behind the 2014 coup, if nato had not kept expanding eastward and if it had said that Ukraine will not be part of nato. Russia had little choice but to invade Ukraine because of those earlier events. That is the main difference in how we see Russia. Food prices may be high but we definitely do not blame Russia because the instigator of all these problems was /is the US. No doubt the worst thing is the loss of Ukrainian lives. That is the saddest situation. But I agree with John mearsheimer who says it is the US that led Ukraine down this path. We hope that Ukraine will be allowed by the US to negotiate peace with Russia. And it may be a bit cruel to state this given the wrong choice made, but if only Ukraine had not been persuaded out of the first settlement by Boris. There would have been half a million Ukrainian men still alive today.
@@margaretxxx8286 , Was Crimea historically part of Ukraine? I thought it was incorporated to Ukraine by Khruschev to permit Ukraine to have a seaport?
@@margaretxxx8286 The population of Crimea is Russian, has been for generations. They voted to be incorporated into Russia. Since they were treated as second class citizens by the Ukranian government. Suggest you read the other Reply which gives you some background when the war really started. The Ukranians were used to provoke Russia into a war with Ukraine and supported by Nato. They thought Russia was for the taking and imposing sanctions would crash its economy. They thought they would be drinking vodka in Moscow by Spring! So how did that work out? The tools destroyed Europe all themselves!
You are exactly right! Prof Mahmubani was being diplomatic by citing he was not at expert on Russia and Russia invasion of Ukraine. I am sure he knew very well the reason ,being a diplomat in UN and a geopolitical observer for fifty years...He did not want to justify Russia's action for the simple reason Singapore took a stance ,on the behest of the US, to sanction Russia, and it would take a lot of explaining to do that would counter Singapore's position on Ukraine...so, the best way out was to say he did not want to touch on the subject. I can understand why the Polish finds the Russian as an aggressor because historically , Imperial Russia and modern day USSR had invaded Poland many times.
Ukraine politicians must be corrupted with money in USA and is held at ransom by USA, likes most other corrupted politicians from other country. That is how USA control other countries.
I have to say most of the Polish people have the thinking of "Europ's problem is the world's problem, the world's problem is not Europe's problem". They only remember how bad they were treated by the Russian or German, but always fail to remember how bad they treated other people when they together with the Lithuanian were running the show.
Poland have experienced a complicated Karma ! As a christian country , she has mistreated on its territory the jews from whom Christ originates ! She was erased as a state during 39-45 from the european map , her intelligencia was killed in 1939 after Hitler ‘s invasion and her land desacrated by squalid concentration camps ! Europe is an idiotic victim of a war someone else created against her will, for Ukraine should have remained neutral and accepted , as concluded during the Minsk accord ,to grant the autonomy to the Domblast region ! Putin is doing what Kennedy was ready to do to Cuba , had the russian misiles not been dismantled in 1962 ! Ukraine choosed to listen to the foolish proposition conveyed by Boris Johnson not to negociate the early end of the war ! Europe has become a vassal of the US ! , it has maybe always been ? She will have to pay for prevaricating particularly Africa !
Ah yes, the horrible Commonwealth. So horrible that it attracted jews fleeing persecution in the western Europe at the time. And today, most if not all countries around PL, still prefer it over RU and DE.
are these people supposed to the elites of Poland? I will be very surprised if yes. oh my...unbelievable... like professors talking to high school kids
These people are not the elites of PL, but the polish elites present the same school of thought unfortunately. A year ago if someone said in a debate in Poland that the article 5 of NATO doesn't work "automatically" and that we may end up in a solo fight it was deemed by majority that saying things like that is undermining of NATO and pro-Russian - and that's only one example of naivety, there's ton of more. Foreigners must understand that our political system, political parties have roots in the Solidarity movement - people ruling our country are simple workers who didn't have much sources of information for majority of their lifetime, their view of the West is idealistic because they hated the Soviet Bloc, therefore it is very hard for them to crush the old view on the West inside their heads.
This is a very good dialogue. The mentalities are so different and they are adversarial, but I hope some of the points Mahbubani was making got through. Mahbubani once made an insightful observation: Everyone was predicting that Europe's past would be Asia's future, meaning that Europe have achieved peace while Asia would be like the pre-war Europe with wars breaking out of all over. Then he said, yet the guns are silent in Asia. And now wars are breaking out in Europe. Mahbubani was very patient and tried his best to avoid talking about Ukraine, but even he lost some patience: Europe, do whatever you want, but face and accept the consequences. Poland isn't facing the consequences. Ukraine is.
Kishore: Ascended master in geopolitical reality. The rest in the video: Naive hordes of children thinking Santa Claus exists and the world is always Garden of Eden.
This is the first time I listen to Polish people talk that much. I found the Polish are lovely people but it is very dangerous when it comes to Geopolitics. The Polish stand firm to China but on the other hand, the richest CEOs like Elon Musk, Tim Cook and CEO of Boeing are lining up to go to China. Why they are going to China and not Poland, think about it my friend
You ask why PolandPISM has only 3.2 subscribers and an international event featuring the knowledgeable Kishore Mahbubani can only attract 3.2 k views after 3 weeks on TH-cam ? Just listen to the naive comments and accusations thrown by this Polish "China expert" at Prof. Mahbubani !
Prof Mahbubani, a stumbling Chinese economy is likely to enjoy a US$1 trillion trade surplus in 2023, not only doubled the pre pandemic 2019 level but larger than Poland's entire GDP!
This is so entertaining that I'm watching it a second time. The naivety of the Poles represented by the host and the audience is so astounding and I salute Prof Mahbubani for being his usual learned articulate self, having the patience to explain to people who obviously have an engrained bias.
Mahbubani: I advise that you be as pragmatic as possible. US has been and will always be pragmatic. US went to bed with Mao, even though it is a superpower. It has already had one Trump. Polish neocon: We need to stand up to big powers and let them know there are red lines they cannot cross. Ukraine is fighting and dying for the red line. Mahbubani: You should do what you want. Stand up for your principles and accept the consequences. That about summarizes the whole conversation.
Summery of this conversation. Poland - EU we won't change or adjust with changing world order & we would go to war to prevent it. Most asian countries want to adjust with changing world order & don't want to fight war.
Poland was one of the cheerleaders of the invasion. Poland even sent some troops to Iraq. Mahbubani was too polite and diplomatic to mention this. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_involvement_in_the_2003_invasion_of_Iraq
Professor Mahbubani, thank you for shining your thoughts on the global realities any country should be thinking about. This is the first time I have witnessed a forum where the professor faces European-centric thinking, which is most interesting. He did an amazing job!
I don’t think Russia woke up one morning and decided to invade Ukraine, maybe the Europeans should see the Russians perspective on behaviours of their western neighbors since the end of the Soviet era. Also the host made emotional comments of Russians killing the Ukrainians, but before the invasion, Ukrainians themselves are killing each other. There are actually many Ukrainians in the east that welcomed Russia military intervention, even pleaded for Russia to do so before.
This lady's views and knowledge of these issues are too NARROW!! Go and visit Asia/SEA regularly and listen to more independent investigate news or journalists who live in CHINA. They are all foreigners - eg. Cyrus Jansen, Jerry's take in China, Chongqing, etc......and NOT that liar Gordon😂😂😂
@@willwillque8791 that's what i was thinking, but i think its an internal fire wall from years of cultural indoctrination. Poland is in the garden after all not the jungle or so she believes.
She brought up multiple times that problems are black and white. If that's true, what's even the point of inviting debate? Are you serious, Poland? is this the level of intellectualism that you can muster for geo-politics? Get your house together!
Oh gosh! She is all over and very confusing! I believed, she has confused Prof. Mahbubani with her questions. It seems like, she is begging for a solutions on the Ukrainian war and blaming China standing with Russia.
The moderator is another typical Westerner who has chosen to be half blind as they watch and read only half the story. The world needs more open-minded people.
The PISM speakers state their view of Europe, Asia and Global issues. Kishore state his view of Europe issues as an outsider with some facts and examples, emphasizing pragmatic "national interests". There is cognitive dissonance between the two approaches and conclusions. The audience can weight the evidence and decide for themselves.
Ciężko się nie zgodzić. "Mamy złe doświadczenie z byciem mokrym, więc uważamy, że deszcz nas nie dotyczy" I takie coś finansowane jest z budżetu??? :-/
Przede wszystkim większość tych pytań jest bardzo (ale to bardzo) niekonkretnych, nie wiadomo o co pytajacym chodzi (i czy w ogóle sa to pytania) - Kishore powtarza i wyłuskuje baaardzo długie (gdaczące) wypowiedzi (pań) i prubuje sklecić pytanie. Po drugie - wiekszość jest bardzo niegrzecznych (np. gość gdzies w okolicach 1g15min - 1g20min - mówi, że gość jest "factually incorrect") - podziwiam cierpiliwość Kishora, rozumiem, że jest w pracy i pewnie promuje jakąś książkę
33:58 Whataboutism... clearly is from discussion with people without children. If you do not practice fairness in dealing with your kids, you will have no end to the conflict...
Another great performance by Prof. Kishore. The audience does not understand meaning of looking into geopolitics & being utterly pragmatic. Firstly Poland is not Ukraine because is Poland is already under US nuclear protection umbrella - NATO, and economically part of EU, but is border & very near Russia - that's the Poland's geopolitics reality, not other Asian countries. To be pragmatic for Poland, may further invest in military strength as "porcupine" that deters anyone, including Russia to try attack. That's just as tiny countries in dangerous regions like Singapore, Korea, Taiwan, Israel & etc had to do. But also to improve the economic performance, and then become a good reason for West to project (like Taiwan with semi-conductor for USA to protect for their own self interests.) Try to look beyond academic levels but realism and pragmatism to situations.
I don't think US will intervene if war breaks out because of Taiwan declaring independence; actually, US is already moving the chip making capacity out from Taiwan
The context some foreigners might lack while listening to it is, that Poland has Just gone through ± 200 years of brutal occupation/hard dependency and it DID affect the way the people here see the world. This is one of the differences between the Eastern and Western Europe that might not be very well visable for the people from (for example) Asia at first. Also, as a Pole, I just wanted to let you know that luckily PISM does not represent all of the polish academia nor the strategic thought. Luckily. And hopefully, this - idealistic - thinking will keep vanishing as it is right now.
thank you prof mabubhani for being FRANK even in poland...for frankness is too rare and SO DIRE NEEDED IN THIS CONVOLUTED WORLD..a friend today is a foe tomorrow is a friend again ......WE IMAGINE AND CREATE OURSELVES🥰..DESIRE 💝 & PEACE
On the housing issue in China, you can see it as profit-taking after 30 years of bull-run. Chinese households have huge savings. There is a large pool of property buyers waiting to enter the market. Another point is that Chinese property tycoons have borrowed extensively, especially USD from foreign institutions. Remind you that only China has the economic health and size for hot money. Wishfully, those risk-takers are waiting for the Chinese government to bail them out. But China and the USA are having an economic war currently. Chinese government and investors won't step in until those speculators have bled out. Ha ha ha!
The housing prices have been going up too fast and for too long. The property developers were trying to corner the market by outgrowing each other. China introduced the three red lines (limit borrowings) to cool things down.
I've seen a lot of bad hosts, this one beat them all
She is actually quite good. She is an advocate of the neocon position, most Poles are, but she let him talk, without interrupting.
The irony of a "China expert". 😂
This organizational wasted the United Nation President Security Council Kishore Mabhubani time...
She acts like some US media host on China related topics. Think that is where she learned how to host. 😅
I think its good bc it allowed Kishore to address US/EU mainsteam media narratives on camera. Not that I think the host or audience were able to comprehend a perspective outside of their own though ..
Oh my goodness. It's like watching a tennis match between Roger Federer and a amateurish club level player. Kishore is so patiently but articulately telling her how narrow her worldview is and how little she truly understands what's going on in China.
We don't care
@@TacticalMayocared enough to comment 🤡
@TacticalMayo we know. That is exactly the situation and the problem of Europe.
@@TacticalMayothat explains why the Europeans are so ignorant
@@TacticalMayoit’s OK, stay in your well and enjoy the echoes of your own croaks
It's incredible how diplomatic Kishore is in having to deal with these obtuse questions from Europeans who think the world revolves around them. Fantastic job.
I mean what else would he do he's in the West.
The Host is fumbling from one sentence to another…😂
This lady has been brainwashed, too, too long winded, should learn more Asian history before voicing skewed European opinions.
Incredibly, all comments and questions were unanimous. Should we think the political science academics in Poland all think this way? Or these are young students?
It shows how the the ex USSR Eastern European countries are being infiltrated and brain washed by the Western mainstream media.
Kishore is great....I know how deeply entrenched the Polish are within the Anglo sphere of thought and it makes it extra interesting he shares his perspectives here
Thank you professor Kishore, for giving me some laughters at the humorous manner you deal with difficult questions from the Europeans. I say 'difficult' because the Europeans cannot phrase the questions clearly, very messy, difficult to understand .
Always love your intelligent speech. You spoke simple English, but very clear and can be easily understood .
You are great.
From a singaporean
People here now live under total propaganda with deep impact, so it's not a surprise they sound so confused.
Singaporean should be proud to have many great leaders.
When Prof KISHORE speaks, the best one can do, is to listen.
Nope
@@TacticalMayoCope
@@TacticalMayo Then you shouldn't be here
@@ssss8162 I'm an American🇺🇲 on a United States social Media platform. If you don't like it you can stay behind your firewall 🤣
Watching this really make me laugh at the Polish moderator & those that ask the question, this really show the low standards of the Polish community where they don't see the big picture & only narrow narrative which the Asia don't subscribe, well done Prof Kishore 👏👏👏
Yes agree. But I think this is a result of bureaucrats in EU who speaks for Europeans nations but they are not elected 😂
They talk n talk but policies useless for the National independent nations. 😅
Most hilarious is their high horse moral perspective, how they lecture others while not learning their own lessons.
The West has an epidemic of narcissism on national level.
These people literally tried to rebuke his arguments with "it's OK if we do it, but not others."
I agree she should just follow Kishore and keeps on praising PRC.. 😊
@@donaldjoseph3903
You too ! Follow the facts,not the propaganda by the west
God bless Poland with these level of interlectuals. Can't they understand this is all about national interest, not ideology!
I just wish you people could understand that for the United States being number two will not be an option and will not be accepted ☢️
Once deeply brainwashed they do know how to think. Forgive them Father for they do not know what's they are thinking
@@Virgo49275 They are the reason, why Strategy & Future was sent here. Someone have to clean up this mess.😎
Blood thirsty ideologues!
@@Virgo49275I don’t forgive them just like you can’t forgive German citizens under hitler.
Professor Mahbubani is so good in explaining the history and economics to East Europe. I think many European countries are still brain wash by U.S. and the EU economy is suffering as happening now. Professor answering her questions very well and as truthful as possible. He is trying to wake up the EU countries on how is all link together when it comes to business.
Mr. Kishore !! The first time I know your name, I hear your voice, your heart and mind. You’re very wonderful, Sir. I admire you already. Thanks
it's nice that Kishore Mahbubani comes to make a speech to the kindergarten teacher
😂😂😂😂😂
If the host's understanding of the world is typical of that of the Polish intellectuals and politicians, then Poland will be groping in the dark for a long time to come.
No it isn't
@@nero1988Poland is already in the hole! Look at your hostess...is she the best Poland has to offer? Ignorance.
I have met some Polish and I can assure you they have some sharp minds with a lot of knowledge. This confusion here is due to a deep discrepancy between reality and the propaganda installed to service US interests. People are confused.
The interviewer should just interview herself if she just wants to hear her own opinions.
it's too painful to listen to her opinions. I have stopped watching the whole interview.
@@Ra-mx4bo
I stayed to get a feel of the calibre and psyche of the Polish elite.
It is not positive.
These guys are both ignorant and arrogant. A bad combination.
At the end she literally said to prof. Kishore : "I mostly do not agree of your thoughts" 🤣😵 she didn't even try to learn the nuance, rationality and objectivity Kishore had been sharing for the sake of europe
Really, I did not expect this kind of quality from Poland's top think tank.
You mean low quality 😂😂😂😂
They acted like frustrated low iq teenages.
This is not our top.. gov funded = career/money prioritizers
The moderator should look back at Minsk agreement before asking why Russia invade Ukraine.
This is the red lines of Russia.
13:36
Yes agree. Their eyes blinded by their own propaganda
Russia invaded Ukraine
It doesn't matter. Russia is a weak and crumbling state.
He came like a university lecturer to children in the kindergarten.
Kishore is a deep deep thinker and a great intellectual. I love his talks. I agree with him that there will be no war in the Pacific, Asian cultures are inherently less prone to violence when talks and negotiation is available. Regarding Ukraine, ukraine walked into a war with eyes wide open.
It isn’t that we Asians are less prone to violence… Japanese killed probably more people than German did during 2nd world war….We Asians simply learnt from our past mistakes as we are pragmatic people….
The professor has repeatedly said that geopolitics is a cruel game, and almost asked the host if she understood the reason why Poland often disappears from the map. In short, Poland has not yet learned enough lessons on this issue.
Exactly! Poland ceased to exist three times in its history without learning why!!!
A telling example of the quality of Academicians from the East & West.
which the east is just in the mud
@@yanxiliu6822😂😂😂 keep coping
@@steveagola9317if you haven't noticed coping is the one thing we're not going to do ☢️
People in the west think and feel and do as their TV and media tell them to do.
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She is trying so hard to demonize China for not taking the European side, but he reasons with the learnings of ASEAN and China towards peace in the region. She still came off frustrated.
The moment you challenged the United States for its number one spot in the world you have doomed humanity ☢️
A rude moderator indeed by finishing the session and saying she didn't agree with her guest
Looks like a father struggling to tell his teenage kid how to survive in this complicated world and deal with problems pragmatically so that doesn't have to pay a hefty price to learn.
No it's the West letting you know you have only two options. So you better get in line or all hell will break loose ☢️☢️☢️☢️☢️☢️☢️☢️
More like an uncle stealing niece's weekly allowance and promote his book.
Kishore is a China compromised diplomat. Kishore what did China offer you? more book sales, shares of Alibaba taken from Jack Ma, or something worse?
@@bobhan6395, YOU MUST BE A US PAID TROLL, RIGHT?
Europe is so doomed. First time i visited Asia back in 2006 and it was shocking to realize how slow, narrow-minded and actually "dead". Europe is. Happy that I managed to set up a life in Asia. Cordial, hard-working,and pragmatic people
China is doomed ☢️
Have you been to Indonesia ??
@@sarahcesar5813 No, I have not unfortunately. I hear is a very dynamic, up and coming country.
@@gritnltw
I hope you have a chance to visit Indonesia sometime in the future. GBU 🙏
Sorry! I did finish the interviewed with a special guest Prof. Mahbubani. At the end the host said rudely aid and she said she didn't agree with Mahbubani. That's fine but she continued it hard for Poland to adopt and hard to change. That's fine go back the way you want as usual follow the U.S. rules and see what happen to Germany, the two Nort Stream pipelines have been destroyed by U.S. Now, the German's economy is in trouble for many years to come. But you don't have right to tell India, China or Asean countries to agree with EU with on the Ukraine war.
A Polish moderator asking Kishore why Russia decided to invade Ukraine!! OMG!! The level of naiveté, of ignorance and or is it plain innocence is just mind boggling.
Being the consumate diplomat that Kishore is, he declined to answer it, citing lack of expertise on that .
Aiya Stephen lock, these Europeans thought that they smart and civilised beans. But really shown they are NUTs
Putin made multiple speeches on why Russia invaded Ukraine. It is not difficult to find and read them. One can believe or not believe him. One can agree or disagree with him. But there is no point to psychoanalyze Putin or any politician on their real motivations. How would anyone really know? Yet the media and the internet are full of shrinks doing this.
@@robertthong1926 That is a wise move, to decline to answer. That is what you do when you encounter a closed mind.
@@robertthong1926 may be kishore does not want to provoke russia into bombing
poland after he is finished with ukrain .all eastern european countries must make
a pragmatic deal with russia and be good friends with russia ,good friends with america
and very good friends with europe ,if they fail to keep interest of big power's their
fate will be same as -you know who ,
Have to say it’s a very strange format, where the host has the final say. Isn’t it typical to give your guests the final word? Sounds to me like you only want to have someone to say things that you want to have validated.
One feature of Asia which is lacking in the West is respect for elders. Prof Mahbubani presents cogent arguments based on many years of study and experience. The emotional responses of the crowd suggesta difficult future for Poland.
and I thought Asians were the emotional ones
@@vijayarajan3276 . Generally speaking, you are right about some Asians, but not so in areas where they are not "talkative" (seemingly introverted), like Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans, but perhaps can be accorded to less communicative ability.
She simply let her opportunity slip by; instead of learning from a non-Europrean mind, she is trying hard to get Kishore to subscribed to EU thinking!
It is alright. It is recorded and on TH-cam for perpetuity. If she is smart, she can watch this show again and think about it.
@@tannhaeuserx464LOL thinking the US would accept second LOL 🤣
Exactly
That's what you get when you already closed your mind. Sad European mindset.
@@huatchyetan8830 Well, it's not easy here to keep an open mind when the propaganda is so extreme and strong. Most of it comes from US and Europe just repeated it. Kind of funny that the Continent that started the Colonial era now is an inconsequential colony with no independent voice. Perhaps its needed, we can learn a bit of humility from it and start seeing the world in a different way. USA on the other hand will need a deep economic crisis, and that is coming. When I don't know but there is no question that it's on its way.
A voice of clarity in a sea of lunacy
Well said!
@@irvansaid26nonsense
Glad to see Kishore traveling all the way to Europe and making connections there.
I hear only pessimism out of the audience. My impression is the Poles is incapable of thinking ina world where the West is no longer dominant. Poles are living in the 1990's.
Totally agree with your assessments.
Professor Kishore really works very hard for PRC.. ❤😊🎉
they live in a way that i did when i was young and loved watching Hollywood movies from john wayne to superman..., and thought that the USA was sent by god to save the world...
@@donaldjoseph3903Why would he work for Europeans who are fascist warmongers and love to kill one another in Ukraine.
@@donaldjoseph3903 Unable to accept reality??
If this is the quality of a Polish scholar no wonder Europea is in such a bad situation! Clouded and confused thinking!
These people are brainwashed 😂😅
That's why still a lapdog !
That's why Russia is taking Europe for a spank
It's an example of what propaganda does to people, the difference between reality and the nonsense being spread is too big, so people have to make an effort to believe in it. This is the result.
@@svenhanson398 . 💯
The EU seems unrealistic, confused, and uncomfortable, which unfortunately dims its future outlook.
Dims all of humanities outlook ☢️
@@TacticalMayoonly Erope.
@@NoohCee like I said it dims humanities outlook.
Europe used to be allies of USA because in the past they jointed the raids and then they got to share
plenty of the spoilts. This time they will soon wake up to the fact that they have to put in a lot of efforts,often to Europe's detriment,but no spoilts to share .Example : the Ukraine conflifict.
Europe will find itself in many more situations like Ukraine where it had to sacrifice itself for US's well being
This will not be the last visit of a wise man to a CIRCUS 😂 Must be incredibly entertaining to prof kishore… I definitely enjoyed every second of the video 😂
You must be huge fan of PRC like Kishore 🎉😂
@@donaldjoseph3903 joker from the circus out to entertain the audience??😂
It's just hilarious that you people think you would get an Asian century and not WW3.
@@TacticalMayo that’s because as Asian we are pragmatic peace loving people who know how to avoid wars within ourselves… on top of that, we are also well informed on the debt problem of the western countries and well aware of the fact that the west are financially incapable to start a war….😂
@@TheAlbert18361 you have to be out your mind to think you would not get a full-blown world War trying to take the place of the United States as the number one economy in the world. Everyone knows surpassing the United States is the red line that ends all life on Earth but China still wants to cross that line anyways. Being number two to the United States is not an option but Armageddon is ☢️
The irony of this conversation is "the host got emotional while discussing Geo-politics".
Be kind. She looks very young (probably in her early 20s), and it could well be her first few interviews in her job.
Im a Pole and im ashamed of "level" of our think tanks. Thx God we have Strategy and Futere with Jacek Bartosiak in charge, who has the same mental maps like guest.
This Polish woman is not the Interviewer or Moderator, she is the Judge
The quality of this judge is.......
Sure, she is debating Mahbubbani and allows him to answer. She is adversarial, but that clarifies the issues. She is a very good interviewer.
Remember, she is a China Expert but without much knowledge of China !!!...So she was trying to gain as much information from Kishore now by taking all the time asking questions than presenting to the floor.
Puking pabulum@@yingzhang7637
She is biased opinionated and her mind is fixed.
When we invite a guest to hear his opinion we should take this opportunity to learn his perspective. We can disagree but we should take the most from it. Dear PISM learn from this brutal experience - you were faced with reality, deal with it.
Actually the Poles were very polite. They let Mahbubani talk and didn't interrupt him. This is remarkable considering that their views are totally in the opposite of Mahbubani's. If this had been held in US on a talk show, Mahbubani would not have been able to talk for 10seconds without being interrupted.
She is evidently an avid consumer of the narratives of the western mainstream media and wearing her misplaced emotional sentiments on her sleeve is an embarrassment.
Not misplaced because you're playing with something that will get the world destroyed.
About d Russian Ukrainian conflict, the Poles are quite selective n chosed to ignore certain things..like persecution of Russian Ukrainians, NATO eastward expansion, etc..haha
Yes so true. They are influenced by the not elected Brussels “leaders” and all the propaganda from their mass lying media 😮
what to expect from a vassal state 😂
You have to give it to Kishore on how to deal with ignorant & arrogant people.
A HUGE, HUGE, HUGE fan of the great Kishore Mahbubani!!!
The host from PISM is ill informed and has a very narrow and subjective view of what is happening in the world.
Their main source of study about the world is probably Western media "experts".
Thanks to the gentleman giving a lesson to the polish girl.
😂😂😂😂😂
First time seeing a moderator so unwilling to give chance to the floor to ask question 😂
Kishore, a big thank you for educating the Europeans, well done! They hold such a narrow view of the world.
Wise visionary words from Prof Kishore Mahbubani. Total respect ❤
wow as I continue to listen to this I find that the Polish did not invite Kishore for a talk, this was more of an lecture, or an ambush.
There are many ppl in PL, who think rather like Prof. KM, than like these naive "scientists" from PISM.
After the event in Smoleńsk in 2010, the Poles played a weird game of dubious pro-propaganda with the US EU and Russian, it is very weird game, and you only need to look at Ukraine now. A jungle world of bio and nuke, drones and missiles ... but they survived the Hitler Stalin 6-years war and the 40-years cold war , so this was ment to be so.
MR. KESHOR IS EXCELENTLY AND FANTASTICALLY WELL EXPLAINED AND THINKS TRUTHFULLY ON A SUPER HIGH LEVEL.
Prof Mabhubani one of the greatest scholars
Although she keeps saying Russia is the aggressor, most of the non European world does not see Russia as an aggressor. Russia would not have invaded Ukraine if the US had not been behind the 2014 coup, if nato had not kept expanding eastward and if it had said that Ukraine will not be part of nato. Russia had little choice but to invade Ukraine because of those earlier events.
That is the main difference in how we see Russia.
Food prices may be high but we definitely do not blame Russia because the instigator of all these problems was /is the US.
No doubt the worst thing is the loss of Ukrainian lives. That is the saddest situation. But I agree with John mearsheimer who says it is the US that led Ukraine down this path. We hope that Ukraine will be allowed by the US to negotiate peace with Russia. And it may be a bit cruel to state this given the wrong choice made, but if only Ukraine had not been persuaded out of the first settlement by Boris. There would have been half a million Ukrainian men still alive today.
Are you joking? Krimea was also taken In peace way? Russia is aggressive!!
@@margaretxxx8286 , Was Crimea historically part of Ukraine? I thought it was incorporated to Ukraine by Khruschev to permit Ukraine to have a seaport?
@@margaretxxx8286 The population of Crimea is Russian, has been for generations. They voted to be incorporated into Russia. Since they were treated as second class citizens by the Ukranian government. Suggest you read the other Reply which gives you some background when the war really started. The Ukranians were used to provoke Russia into a war with Ukraine and supported by Nato. They thought Russia was for the taking and imposing sanctions would crash its economy. They thought they would be drinking vodka in Moscow by Spring! So how did that work out? The tools destroyed Europe all themselves!
You are exactly right! Prof Mahmubani was being diplomatic by citing he was not at expert on Russia and Russia invasion of Ukraine. I am sure he knew very well the reason ,being a diplomat in UN and a geopolitical observer for fifty years...He did not want to justify Russia's action for the simple reason Singapore took a stance ,on the behest of the US, to sanction Russia, and it would take a lot of explaining to do that would counter Singapore's position on Ukraine...so, the best way out was to say he did not want to touch on the subject.
I can understand why the Polish finds the Russian as an aggressor because historically , Imperial Russia and modern day USSR had invaded Poland many times.
Ukraine politicians must be corrupted with money in USA and is held at ransom by USA, likes most other corrupted politicians from other country. That is how USA control other countries.
I have to say most of the Polish people have the thinking of "Europ's problem is the world's problem, the world's problem is not Europe's problem". They only remember how bad they were treated by the Russian or German, but always fail to remember how bad they treated other people when they together with the Lithuanian were running the show.
Poland have experienced a complicated Karma ! As a christian country , she has mistreated on its territory the jews from whom Christ originates ! She was erased as a state during 39-45 from the european map , her intelligencia was killed in 1939 after Hitler ‘s invasion and her land desacrated by squalid concentration camps ! Europe is an idiotic victim of a war someone else created against her will, for Ukraine should have remained neutral and accepted , as concluded during the Minsk accord ,to grant the autonomy to the Domblast region ! Putin is doing what Kennedy was ready to do to Cuba , had the russian misiles not been dismantled in 1962 ! Ukraine choosed to listen to the foolish proposition conveyed by Boris Johnson not to negociate the early end of the war ! Europe has become a vassal of the US ! , it has maybe always been ? She will have to pay for prevaricating particularly Africa !
Ah yes, the horrible Commonwealth. So horrible that it attracted jews fleeing persecution in the western Europe at the time. And today, most if not all countries around PL, still prefer it over RU and DE.
Could u name them?
Those people
@@tomaszchojna4145 andrij and natasha
Is she representative of Polish? She is like locked up in a her own world!
are these people supposed to the elites of Poland? I will be very surprised if yes. oh my...unbelievable... like professors talking to high school kids
Pls don’t insult high school students intelligence…. My nieces are definitely far more intelligent than those polish professors….
They are not elites but that profesor is a clown 🤡
These people are not the elites of PL, but the polish elites present the same school of thought unfortunately. A year ago if someone said in a debate in Poland that the article 5 of NATO doesn't work "automatically" and that we may end up in a solo fight it was deemed by majority that saying things like that is undermining of NATO and pro-Russian - and that's only one example of naivety, there's ton of more. Foreigners must understand that our political system, political parties have roots in the Solidarity movement - people ruling our country are simple workers who didn't have much sources of information for majority of their lifetime, their view of the West is idealistic because they hated the Soviet Bloc, therefore it is very hard for them to crush the old view on the West inside their heads.
High school?! Elementary at best!
@@kamillencki1557 . Thanks for the info, though I question how it can be still true after so many years since the Solidarity Movement?
This is a very good dialogue. The mentalities are so different and they are adversarial, but I hope some of the points Mahbubani was making got through. Mahbubani once made an insightful observation: Everyone was predicting that Europe's past would be Asia's future, meaning that Europe have achieved peace while Asia would be like the pre-war Europe with wars breaking out of all over. Then he said, yet the guns are silent in Asia. And now wars are breaking out in Europe.
Mahbubani was very patient and tried his best to avoid talking about Ukraine, but even he lost some patience: Europe, do whatever you want, but face and accept the consequences. Poland isn't facing the consequences. Ukraine is.
Prof Kishore should be more blunt to his audience. But yes, he is great.
His training is in diplomacy. Notice that he avoids the most explosive issue of the Ukrainian war while the host kept goading him.
Russia is not the Agressor , US/NATO/Ukraine had been threatening/provocating Russia for a long
time
Kishore: Ascended master in geopolitical reality.
The rest in the video: Naive hordes of children thinking Santa Claus exists and the world is always Garden of Eden.
The aggression of the Polish lady is surprising. My way or the highway. Financed by US I suppose?
That Polish woman, so painful to listen to
Indeed, brainwashed and clueless! Eurocentric and ignorant about what's the real situation in other countries other than US and Europe.
She is being honest and frank and representative of the Polish view. She also lets Mahbubani fully exopose his view. That is a good interview.
This is the first time I listen to Polish people talk that much. I found the Polish are lovely people but it is very dangerous when it comes to Geopolitics. The Polish stand firm to China but on the other hand, the richest CEOs like Elon Musk, Tim Cook and CEO of Boeing are lining up to go to China. Why they are going to China and not Poland, think about it my friend
You ask why PolandPISM has only 3.2 subscribers and an international event featuring the knowledgeable Kishore Mahbubani can only attract 3.2 k views after 3 weeks on TH-cam ?
Just listen to the naive comments and accusations thrown by this Polish "China expert" at Prof. Mahbubani !
Prof Mahbubani, a stumbling Chinese economy is likely to enjoy a US$1 trillion trade surplus in 2023, not only doubled the pre pandemic 2019 level but larger than Poland's entire GDP!
This woman is definitely not a China expert as she claimed herself to be. Every word out of her mouth is cringey.
Especially when she was dismissive of the points made by the Professor as "whataboutism" , which is frankly insulting.
This is so entertaining that I'm watching it a second time. The naivety of the Poles represented by the host and the audience is so astounding and I salute Prof Mahbubani for being his usual learned articulate self, having the patience to explain to people who obviously have an engrained bias.
Wow. The world is so diversed. Poland keeps your idealism! Don’t change! Would like to see this social experiment turning out in 10 years.
There isn't 10 years left.
Two world wars started in Europe, hope they will change and not start the third one 😅
Mahbubani: I advise that you be as pragmatic as possible. US has been and will always be pragmatic. US went to bed with Mao, even though it is a superpower. It has already had one Trump.
Polish neocon: We need to stand up to big powers and let them know there are red lines they cannot cross. Ukraine is fighting and dying for the red line.
Mahbubani: You should do what you want. Stand up for your principles and accept the consequences.
That about summarizes the whole conversation.
You are so right!
Sigh....
Summery of this conversation.
Poland - EU we won't change or adjust with changing world order & we would go to war to prevent it.
Most asian countries want to adjust with changing world order & don't want to fight war.
You understand what you said?
If China surpasses the United States as the number one economy in the world you will get way, way more than just a war.
Prof is a brave man. The group is so brain-locked.. Totally brain washed, and cannot even pause, think and reconsider alternative view points.
This woman calls herself a 'China Expert'😅😅😅😅😂😂😂 She does all her 'research' on Sky News!😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
A Chinese expert claims that she did not have access to Chinese information 😅 Well… Good luck Poland
😂😂😂😂
@akuyangbenar, She goes to bed with Gordon Cheng... that's why she is a China expert!😂
@kennedy6618 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Oh my goodness I just can't stop laughing🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That's truly a good one👍👍👍
Conclusion to be drawn, the “moderator” n those who asked the questions are living under a dome, totally divorced from the realities 😢😢😢
She's not living under a dome the US will stay number one or it's going to be bad☢️
No wonder why Poland will never get out of their own mess
Prof Mahbubani is a gem. So eloquent and poignant base on facts & statistics ✅👍🤝.
Whataboutism? When you don't condemn US on invasion of iraq, this gave permission for Russia to invade Ukraine.
Poland was one of the cheerleaders of the invasion. Poland even sent some troops to Iraq. Mahbubani was too polite and diplomatic to mention this.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_involvement_in_the_2003_invasion_of_Iraq
She like the words "What about" a lot. 😅
Many countries in EU are going to Collapse is true due to high inflation.
Professor Mahbubani, thank you for shining your thoughts on the global realities any country should be thinking about. This is the first time I have witnessed a forum where the professor faces European-centric thinking, which is most interesting. He did an amazing job!
I don’t think Russia woke up one morning and decided to invade Ukraine, maybe the Europeans should see the Russians perspective on behaviours of their western neighbors since the end of the Soviet era.
Also the host made emotional comments of Russians killing the Ukrainians, but before the invasion, Ukrainians themselves are killing each other. There are actually many Ukrainians in the east that welcomed Russia military intervention, even pleaded for Russia to do so before.
This lady's views and knowledge of these issues are too NARROW!! Go and visit Asia/SEA regularly and listen to more independent investigate news or journalists who live in CHINA. They are all foreigners - eg. Cyrus Jansen, Jerry's take in China, Chongqing, etc......and NOT that liar Gordon😂😂😂
China and Asians are far too advanced for this lady to handle.
Ha ha ha!
Is Poland government have fire wall in there country that's why she have so little knowledge of other territories?
LOL eating dogs🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@TacticalMayoLOL eating frogs snails foul smelling moldy cheese
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@willwillque8791 that's what i was thinking, but i think its an internal fire wall from years of cultural indoctrination. Poland is in the garden after all not the jungle or so she believes.
this is entertaining，i guess Kishore has seen it all
The professor is a patient gentleman who suffer fools!
Kishore's freebook The Asian 21st Century contains great insights and analysis on geopolitical situation and the inevitable rise of Asia.
It's constant EASY for the Europeans to forgive and forget about their own Violences to all other countries!! 😮😮😮
Against which Asian country was Poland violent exactly?
@@andrew.r.lukasikHe said Europeans, that includes UK, France, etc. Also, He said "other countries", not limited in Asia. 😅
Excellent analysis by Mr Mahbubani.
A delight to hear such an erudite scholar and veteran diplomat.
Kudos
She brought up multiple times that problems are black and white. If that's true, what's even the point of inviting debate? Are you serious, Poland? is this the level of intellectualism that you can muster for geo-politics? Get your house together!
Don't forget there's 50 shades of grey 😂
Oh gosh! She is all over and very confusing! I believed, she has confused Prof. Mahbubani with her questions. It seems like, she is begging for a solutions on the Ukrainian war and blaming China standing with Russia.
The moderator is another typical Westerner who has chosen to be half blind as they watch and read only half the story. The world needs more open-minded people.
The PISM speakers state their view of Europe, Asia and Global issues. Kishore state his view of Europe issues as an outsider with some facts and examples, emphasizing pragmatic "national interests". There is cognitive dissonance between the two approaches and conclusions. The audience can weight the evidence and decide for themselves.
Cieszę się, że słuchałem tego na spacerze, mogłem rozchodzić żenujące pytania do KM. Wstydu w PISMie nie macie.
Pytanie rzeczywiście byly słabe ale ten profesorek jest klaunem.
Ciężko się nie zgodzić. "Mamy złe doświadczenie z byciem mokrym, więc uważamy, że deszcz nas nie dotyczy" I takie coś finansowane jest z budżetu??? :-/
To przerażajace, że nasze elity ekspercie sa jak dzieci we mgle.
Przede wszystkim większość tych pytań jest bardzo (ale to bardzo) niekonkretnych, nie wiadomo o co pytajacym chodzi (i czy w ogóle sa to pytania) - Kishore powtarza i wyłuskuje baaardzo długie (gdaczące) wypowiedzi (pań) i prubuje sklecić pytanie. Po drugie - wiekszość jest bardzo niegrzecznych (np. gość gdzies w okolicach 1g15min - 1g20min - mówi, że gość jest "factually incorrect") - podziwiam cierpiliwość Kishora, rozumiem, że jest w pracy i pewnie promuje jakąś książkę
33:58 Whataboutism... clearly is from discussion with people without children. If you do not practice fairness in dealing with your kids, you will have no end to the conflict...
Indeed whataboutism is at the core of any "rule based order". The rules are called rules because they apply to everyone or none.
Looks like these people have travel in a time machine and just come back from different time it is very entertaining now I know what expert are like
Trade is the glue and keeps the peace , New Zealand does well in this respect.
Amazing that a moderator has no self insight that she seemed to be singing from the US state department hymn sheet along with the rest of her choir
It's delightful to hear Kishore 's latest speech and thoughts
Another great performance by Prof. Kishore. The audience does not understand meaning of looking into geopolitics & being utterly pragmatic. Firstly Poland is not Ukraine because is Poland is already under US nuclear protection umbrella - NATO, and economically part of EU, but is border & very near Russia - that's the Poland's geopolitics reality, not other Asian countries.
To be pragmatic for Poland, may further invest in military strength as "porcupine" that deters anyone, including Russia to try attack. That's just as tiny countries in dangerous regions like Singapore, Korea, Taiwan, Israel & etc had to do. But also to improve the economic performance, and then become a good reason for West to project (like Taiwan with semi-conductor for USA to protect for their own self interests.) Try to look beyond academic levels but realism and pragmatism to situations.
I don't think US will intervene if war breaks out because of Taiwan declaring independence; actually, US is already moving the chip making capacity out from Taiwan
Even a wiseman cannot move sway this group of hot-headed teenagers. How sad
One advice to the host, go back to school do more home work!
The context some foreigners might lack while listening to it is, that Poland has Just gone through ± 200 years of brutal occupation/hard dependency and it DID affect the way the people here see the world. This is one of the differences between the Eastern and Western Europe that might not be very well visable for the people from (for example) Asia at first.
Also, as a Pole, I just wanted to let you know that luckily PISM does not represent all of the polish academia nor the strategic thought. Luckily. And hopefully, this - idealistic - thinking will keep vanishing as it is right now.
Keshore's wisdoms are totally wasted on those people. They braught him here to give him a lecture 😅
I just wish all of you would leave TH-cam because TH-cam is American 🇺🇲
Without us, there will be no TH-cam!
thank you prof mabubhani for being FRANK even in poland...for frankness is too rare and SO DIRE NEEDED IN THIS CONVOLUTED WORLD..a friend today is a foe tomorrow is a friend again ......WE IMAGINE AND CREATE OURSELVES🥰..DESIRE 💝 & PEACE
On the housing issue in China, you can see it as profit-taking after 30 years of bull-run. Chinese households have huge savings. There is a large pool of property buyers waiting to enter the market.
Another point is that Chinese property tycoons have borrowed extensively, especially USD from foreign institutions. Remind you that only China has the economic health and size for hot money. Wishfully, those risk-takers are waiting for the Chinese government to bail them out. But China and the USA are having an economic war currently. Chinese government and investors won't step in until those speculators have bled out.
Ha ha ha!
The housing prices have been going up too fast and for too long.
The property developers were trying to corner the market by outgrowing each other.
China introduced the three red lines (limit borrowings) to cool things down.
I guarantee you one thing if China surpasses the United States you're going to get a whole hell of a lot more than just an economic war.