The Ultimate Ferrari F430 Buyer's Guide // How to Buy the Right Ferrari
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- I am by no means a Ferrari buying expert, but alas I have learned a few things to look for when buying a Ferrari F430.
I will show a few of the common problems to look for and some of the issues that you will face when trying to find the right F430 for you.
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Just bought one of these (and it's amazing, only 20k miles). Here is some more tips if you consider one of those:
1) if it's got an F1 transmission (most will have), make sure you let the dealer read out the current clutch wear. They can wear really fast if not properly driven (lot of hard starts, lot of citry traffic, keeping gear engaged while stationary - always pull both paddels at the same time to engage neutral if you are stationary eg. on a red light)
2) the catalyc converters break easiely and burn out quickly. Not sure about the US folks, but in Europe that is a show stopper because you do have to replace them to pass the emission control. There is two of them and one costs around 4k $.
3) check the paint on the engine, often it starts to fall off after time
4) as explained check the tail lights, their mounts are breaking a lot
5) make sure there is all original tools including the flash light still there. It is a cheap as fuck flash light, but for reselling purposes it's quite important.
6) the Capristo exhaust mounts really solve the issue of cracking headers. Good invest if the model you look at does not have them. Preferably it's already done. Downside is, tailpipes will vibrate much more.
7) if the F1 isn't shifting properly have the transmission hydraulics fluid checked. Normally it's solved rather easiely having this leveled. However, leveling is difficult for the shop. It's accessible below the first cover on the right side of the engine bay. There is an overflow just beside the rear difusor so don't worry if you fill up the hydraulic oil and get some oil down there if you were driving fast.
Thats great tips man thanks a lot! will buy one soon!
You seem like a real decent guy. Especially it's real nice to give kids the toys. I am sure that makes a lot of kids really happy and it's something they'll remember all their life, so you are spreading some real joy there, man.
Thanks! I think it's important to try and do good things for others. It makes the world a little better.
Normal Guy Supercar Dan, where do you order the Burago models from? I’d like to do the same but have had trouble finding the models and a reliable seller.
Toys for the kids. Such a brilliant idea.
Thank you for being a Ferrari ambassador. I ordered my toys for the kids off Amazon. I will try to pass on the smiles also.
I enjoy watching your channel there is nothing like a Ferrari they're special just a great car not a bad line on that vehicle I have been in the car business for my entire life most of which has been with ford for over 25 years from a tech to service manger and a lot in between and I get a kick out of watching you work on it and all your comments and you just seem like a genuinely nice person. Thank you
Thumbs up mate! Just a little word of advice, be careful with bikes in walls next to cars or motorbikes, one felt down in my garage and damaged a Ducati ...
He literally Spun that brand new light face down on that bench!! Scratch’s don’t bother this guy.
Great video thanks for sharing. I’m in atx as well and looking at a f430 currently available in Houston. Your video is definitely going to help me out! Subscribed 👍
Great video. Bookmarked for future purchase.
Great job! Anyone who wants to buy one should definitely watch this. You pretty much covered everything. Kudos Daniel.
Giving kids Ferrari car toys... you deserve that Ferrari.
Nice job
Thanks!
Nice tip with the detailer for the PPI.
Great tips - as always. Love the content you are a great asset to the Ferrari community.
Happy to help!
Great channel and context. Watched many of your videos. Most importantly you take away the fear of buying a Ferrari because you demonstrate you can repair it yourself.
Thanks! That was part of the plan. 😁
Normal Guy Supercar well it was a great plan! Changing your wheel bearing was actually easier than changing it on my Volkswagen! My friend was literally talking about buying a preowned Ferrari a month ago but was dissuaded because of the maintenance costs. Your channel changed his mind.
Definitely the most useful of the buying guides on the F430
Thank you
Great detail on this!
Thanks!
Great video!
Nice video! Great job
Thank you
I bought 06 F430 spider a few weeks ago even without PPI. Felt dump afterward. However I feel lucky as my car has been so far so good. I bought 12mon warranty so hope it helps. Wish me luck! Really enjoy your channel. Let me know when u have a chance to visit Orange County California. :)
I was totally excited at that moment so forgot everything (like a blackout moment). After I came back home, I realized....Shit i forgot to ask lots of questions at the dealership and should have done PPI. Cant complain.. i just love my Ferrari :)
Why the fuck would you buy any car without a ppi? Let alone a ferrari???
Hi Daniael, how's the little spider so fsr with you. Any comments or notices? Am about to buy please advice me. Thanks
Older video, but once again, very helpful! Any thoughts on the 430 Scuderia 16M? Stumbled across one for sale..
They are pretty pricey but great cars. Only 499 made
I love this guy so much I swear he’s the best
That was helpful ! thanks ! Cool Stuff
Daniel Hurlbert is there an email I can contact you at ?
Very good video...considering buying one in the near future once this Virus pandemic is over (be interesting to see if this has any effect on the prices). Obviously F1 clutch life, manifolds, ball joints and CCB (if ceramic) are all major points to be looked at.
Hey Tim, I wonder did you buy, if so, how is it so far ?
Really lots of good advice although I'm saving as much as possible for hopefully a 458. Wish you could do one for one those. :P
Great video! Solid idea on using remote resources, if my Ferrari ends up coming from Austin, i'll buy you tacos :D
Nice car.
It's too bad you didn't get the manual with the gated shifter, they are now appreciating like crazy.
Enjoy
Yeah, I would have had to fork out 50% more money to get one of those... At that price, I'd rather just get a 458. :)
The cavallino you have on your garage wall is really cool, where'd you get it?
Useful tips
Binge watching these videos. After every video I learn something about the car and check my dads.
Thanks Dan good to know when I buy my 430 next.
+Alfa Won no problem
Very Good videos! I'm subscribed.
Planning to buy F430, any idea how long will the F1 tranny clutch last?
There is one here offering me 2009 F430 with CCB and mileage around 6k miles.
Is f430 reliable? More comfortable than the LP550-2?
(Currently driving some BMW Ms and Lp550-2)
Thanks!
Hey Harry, I wonder did you buy ? If so, how is it so far ? I also plan to buy, thanks!
When in Austin, I would love to meet with you. I am looking for F430 as prices have drop to $100k. Love your videos! Also, how can I get intouch with you if I have questions on active listing of F430?
dan@normalguysupercar.com
I'm shopping for a 430 right now in California. Where do you buy the toy Ferrari cars? I think that is such a great thing for kids! Great video I learned a lot!
I buy them at Die Cast Models Wholesale. If you're looking for a 430, I'm selling one: www.normalguysupercar.com/exotic-cars-for-sale/2007-ferrari-f430-18-2k-miles-in-a-sinister-triple-black-115k/
Thank you!
You're welcome
I think I saw your car earlier today at the Range, Ferrari and Espresso get together.. Wish I would have seen this video before I showed up.
Yup! Was kinda shitty weather so we bailed to grab some breakfast after a little while.
Oh, one other note. I watched the Hoovie's Garage video about selling his land yacht earlier which then led me Doug DeMuro's article on Jalopnik from when he finally sold his 360 (I swear this is going somewhere relevant), and he mentioned that (at least where he lives) when getting a PPI inspection done Ferrari charges the owner for the inspection (all two hours worth) and every interested buyer an additional sum (in his case $380) who wants to see the report. Also he had to wait 16 days to get his car inspected. I am not sure if it works that way in Austin, but... that may seem weird (and absolutely outrageous) to someone that has never purchased a Ferrari before. Again, it may vary by region, but probably something worth noting.
Yeah, seemed nuts to me as well but I know even Audi prices and practices are kind of silly expensive sometimes, and they know they have you in a captive market. There are just not that many Ferrari specialists out there, and you are kind of beholden to the buyer; as there are only so many people that are willing/able to spend that much money on a car and you have to satisfy their need for reassurance on such an expensive purchase.
Hearing you point out all the little quirks with Italian engineering and build quality makes me think of that scene from Rush when Lauda is going on about a Ferrari being a crap box and the engineer says, *insert Italian accent here* "You can't say that, it's a Ferrari." Out of curiosity do you watch Rob Ferretti's channel? He tends to have some good tips on keeping your Ferrari running on the cheap as well. For example buying used Ferrari parts through ferrparts and exoticautorecycling. For example they have the wheel hub bearing for your car for the same price you paid in the UK (although yours might have been new).
Oh sorry if that is something you have answered before (oh, and for the sudden deluge of comments). I just found your channel today and have been watching through your back catalog as time/work allows. And yeah Rob is cool for the most part. A bit cheesy at times, but that is the way it is when you have to push out a video a day and try to make money on youtube.
Yeah I hadn't seen your channel before, and trust me I follow a lot of car channels. It is cool that it is growing like that though. I helped a friend of mine with his Subaru WRX Volkswagen channel somewhat, and I know from my own experience doing youtube it is hard to grow your viewers base. It can get discouraging when you are putting in a lot of time into recording and posting content to only see slow growth, and so to suddenly get a jump like that... always feels nice. Definitely keep up the good work.
Toys NOT ONLY for big boys - I like it ;)
By the way ... beautiful example and great color combination! They drive like a dream and that sound ! Especially on cold or in a parking garage/tunnel/between the buildings - PURE SYMPHONY !!! After nearly 14 years on a market still the best Ferrari sound ever! In other words - Perfection On Wheels! CONGRATS!
Thanks! They do sound really damn good.
Im looking into purchasing an F430 relatively soon. If my local dealer (actually a pretty large dealership here in South Florida) is selling the car, is it common practice to get the PPI at that dealership or a different dealership just for security? Or does it not matter and have them throw the PPI in as part of the deal ;). Beautiful car and thank you for all the great info!
Theoretically you want someone that has nothing to gain do the PPI so they are honest. If you do one, I would probably have it done by someone other than the dealership.
@@normalguysupercar Agreed, thats what my common sense told me but just wasn't sure if I was thinking too much into it. Thanks for the reply!
I test drove a F430 about 6 months ago and was surprised to hear a vibration coming from the dash on the passenger side.
Is that the defroster vent covers you mentioned?
Other than oil in the coolant or coolant in the oil, what other deal breakers are there that are specific to the car? Like you, I'd be ok with wobbly mirrors and tail lights as they are replaceable. Thanks, Jeff
the F430 has been known for being a very robust vehicle and doesn't suffer from the major issues as some of it's predecessors did. there are no belt or engine out services so maintenance is much cheaper compared to a 355/360. Dan covered some very good issues and the biggest thing is deciding how your going to use the vehicle first. there are a lot of buyers guides and discussions on the various Ferrari forums so spend your time looking through those. there are corrosion issues on the back of the front air inlets on the bottom and the paint can flake off in the door jams and wiper voids. another big consideration is carbon brakes. they are optional from 2005-2007 and standard after that. they do usually last a long time but if you ever had to replace them they are very expensive.
where did you pick up your car? Thank you
Hey boss did u do ur annual maintaince yet. We spoke earlier about my friends masserati that spend 7k on mandatory maintaince. How was ur experience?
Daniel Hurlbert would u buy a cheaper f430? I looked into few and saw one for 80k. So the question is, would u be afraid to buy one this cheap because there more then likely something wrong with it?
You're amazing pal
Thanks
You can get a measure that you put up to the paint and it will tell you how thick the paint is. Letting you know where its been repainted
Yup.
Where did you get your die cast Ferrari’s? I’ve been wanting one!
Diecastmodelswholesale
Thanks for the review. I have too say. Too many issues for my taste. Are they all this buggy? Honestly I would not spend the money for that quality and issues. Thanks but I will keep my 911.
OK
LOL wtf.
Does this model comes with the classic traditional gated shifter manual? No electronic. I was debating this or 360 Modena.
You can find the F430 with a gated shifter but if comes at a very expensive premium. Like $50k more
Normal Guy Supercar oh, what are the difference between f430 coupe, and a 360 Modena? Thank you for replying by the way, I also asked the same question in detail on your other videos.
I have watched a few Ferrari reviews and they all seem to have a lot of problems. So my conclusion about Ferrari 360 and 430 is a no no...the chinese has a saying “ it’s good to look at but not eat it” ...i think Camry would do for me hah...
hello ..just bought a ferrari f430 spyder ..i need to buy interior parts ..do you know where to buy them ?thankyou
Not entirely sure but check Ricambi.
Shifts under 1 second????? Is that the target for an old school single clutch F1 semi? Modern DCT like 488 or NSX shift under 0.1 second lol! If I was shopping for F430i would get gated stick! How often do the hydraulics blow out on the F1 shifters?
I believe the F1 is tested to shift in 0.2 seconds.
I love this car it's just right !
Hey dan I sent you an email and need some advice on buying an 09 F430 F1 and trading in the 20 992 911S
I'm considering this car for about 2y now.... prices went low and nice piece here in europe you can find for about 70k€
Yeah they are a pretty good bargain at the moment. I suspect they will start to go up in value soon.
Why did you pick the 430 to buy versus another model?
Well at the time it was as close to a 458 as I could afford. Lol
Where can I get one of those stainless Ferrari logos like on your wall?
Enthusiworks
How much did you pay for the f430? If you don't mind me asking.
96k
@@ondrejpotancok1538 lol wtf that's a RIP off
How reliable are the f430s? more reliable than Gallardo ?
I mean, probably? I can't tell you, I've never owned a Gallardo.
Did you do the PPI for your 430?
Did I have someone else do one? Not really. One had already been done though.
Great guide, too bad I will never use it...LOL
Like you couldn't have done this video before I bought my F430 Spider?
Clyde did you not do a pre-purchase inspection??
Uh...tires, yeah? Check the tires! And brake pads. Great idea, those toys for kids, brilliant!
Well, tires and brakes go for any car...
Hi Daniel , how r u , Very Nice buyer Guide video. Thank you again. I don't know should or shouldn't ask you this question here from this comment, but I would like to have an experience guy like you to help me test drive or select or walk me through the buying process. I decided to buy anytime from Oct - Dec this year but I currently living in LA. I can pay for ur plane ticket, hotel , foods and some services charge if you want to charge me I'm willing to pay you. So sorry I asked such in here but I do need ur professional advise and help. I don't want to get rip off and buying a broken car then cost me 20 30 thousands to fix. Thank you Daniel , my name is James nice to meet you
+Daniel Hurlbert thank you so much Daniel !! I deeply appreciate ! I plan to buy between Oct - Dec. I will check back with you around that time ok? I pretty much will search the car from autotrader.com , I'm James very nice to meet you. I do garment production I have 2 factories in China, and I production for many popular brand name u sell at the mall :) And for this time, I am seriously want to hire you to help test drive a couple or as many as we can find within the few days when you in LA. I don't have any experience and I honestly have no idea what is call good or bad. If I bought a defective one, I know will cost me so much to fix because I have no mechanical background, all I can do is send the car to the dealer let them fix. They most likely will buy the best original parts charging me crazy labor. So I rather pay you help me select a good one I'm worry free. I'm so sorry I know it sound stupid but you are the only person that I know here know Ferrari so well. Hope u understand
Thank you Daniel , I really appreciate. I can leave you my phone and email and business card. Thank you million
Sorry Daniel , a lot of typo , is 3am here in LA , I'm on my bed watching ur F430 !! So cool
does this car come with an aux hole?
Daniel Hurlbert lmao I mean aux input 😂😂
Do you know how the depreciation looks?
Of what?
@@normalguysupercar English is not my first language so I was unclear. How has the car value changed since you bought it?
I understand that it is difficult to predict the future, but if you buy an F430 today, provided that it is well managed. What does the value of the car look like in the future?
The newer models are, of course, more expensive than the older ones. Do you know if Ferrari made any significant improvements?
I am also a normal man, 54 years old who is not super rich but can afford to buy a F430 (with paddles) and I therefore greatly appreciate your youtube videos. Thanks for all the great information!
@@normalguysupercar I get my F430 tomorrow, I am convinced it will be a good buy, both financial and for joy! Thanks for all your videos
How can i get the toys
First you get the moneys
Dont know who this guy is but would sure like it if he told us about those shipping horror stories in a camp fire, cant even imagine gives me the chills
Huh?
Normal Guy Supercar Nevermind that, Im having a marathan on this channel love the content keep up the great work!
Ah gotcha. Well, have at it! :)
PPI needs to be done on any purchase
It's certainly good insurance.
What year car???
Depends
My PPI was $2,000. Had to fly a guy out from 2,000 mikes away though... Lol!
Daniel Hurlbert well, that's what I thought. It was on a Scud too.
Tim Tursonoff you got screwed.
Are you sure you are not just lying your ass off? Your profile seems a little suspicious
Checking all these things, sound like a pre flight airplane inspection.
Haha I suppose so
be careful. the PPI is 20 grand and they force a 5 thousand dollar oil change. the tires are like 30 thousand. None of this statement is true.... I'm working on my BS story
Daniel Hurlbert lol. I bet i could find a way to reuse that wheel bearing!
Hi the Fritter,
Sorry but is the PPI ?
Thanks
What is the PPI *
If I was going to buy a Ferrari I'd want to make sure that cardboard box it came in hadn't been opened.
It could get a scratch otherwise.
I'd be concerned some kid opened it up in the toy store and got sticky fingerprints on it.
Hope you buy a 458 ... :)
I am sure you will! great information better than a lot of forums, I call it revealing the truth(I only knew about the headers - does the 430 scud have the same issue?)). I noticed 458s are a massive amount more but would be interesting to really know the issues they have. BTW, I do not own a Ferrari :)
Can I get the toy ferrari plzz
The toys won me over
Thanks
the hanging bicycles is terrifying.........
Na they are fine.
👍👍👍😀😀😀
You Tube keeps unsubscribing me, damn them
get rid of the sh*tty mini & you are good to go
I like the mini
So things are loose, sticky, broken and come appart? And you consider it all as normal?
I drive a 2001 Mazda 626 with about 183 000 miles on te clock and nothing is broken, ratling or came appart.
Maybe, just mabe, it is an overrated and overengineered piece of shit!
Headers cracks to....
Yup