We all hate when the boxart shows certain details and they're nowhere to be found inside the kit! Happened to me several times, especially with older Fujimi kits! Thanks for a great video, keep up the great work 👍🏼
The story I heard about the boxart not matching the kit contents is that RC2 (and Ertl) would contract out a build with an very difficult deadline. The builder would send a model that he already had on his shelf (of an earlier release) that had some of his enhancements on it. It is also interesting to note that many were build without glass to prevent glare when photographing, The "glass" would be airbrushed (or photoshopped) in.
I have the MPC kit and it has everything your AMT kit has. I picked the kit up at a bargain store for $9. It was the first kit I chose when I decided to start modeling again as an adult. There are many things I had issues with. The carbs didn't fit the air filter assembly. The add on parts to the front were hard and took a lot of work to fit. I had to add some plastic to keep the front of the hood from falling in the engine bay. If I were to get this kit again, I would cut the bottom of the front fenders off and graft the add on pieces to the front fender. I should have installed the front wheels to the upper hole in the front suspension. I wound up cutting the rear bumper (I call them push wings) off because they came in contact with the body under the bumper. I didn't drill the rear exhaust pipe location holes and the rear exhaust pipes stick down too far and look awful. I want to buy another kit sometime and repair all the problems. I would also wire the spark plugs and do something different with the radiator. It looks awful from the bottom of the car. Last, I didn't paint the car because it was molded in red. I would paint the next kit I got. So I keep that first car boxed and on the shelf.
Cool. We all have to learn and this one will do it. Mine ended up as parts and I used the engine and chassis under a Modelhaus resin 70 Charger RT kit.
Thank you for sharing the detailed issues with these kits. I built the AMT/ERTL Daytona years and years ago. I also built a pseudo NASCAR version (no nose cone, no wing) as well. In my stash, I have the yellow plastic 1987 issue of the 500, one of the Dukes version and the F&F 70. I also have about 1/2 dozen of the various Revell kits. One part you did not mention was the incorrect 71 Charger grille insets that come in some of these reissues.
What a trippy deal! I picked up most of the Walmart checkerboard 5-buck kits, so I may have this one buried in the closet. I never really liked the real ones. I used to call the Daytona and the Superbird "Flying Towel Racks" back when they were new, so maybe it's no big woop if mine never gets built. Interesting about the other kits parts to be more correct with this one. You sure do some good research!
It's a very cool car. I built the Postal tin version & it does require some work to get the nose looking good. I used some sprue-goo and a little putty and it turned out pretty nice.
You mentioned model kits at Walmart, I haven't seen any sold there for nearly 20 years! If this kit is unbuildable, good luck then! The one that I had to completely pitch out was the mpc 1983 Craig Carter IMSA Camero but that was due to the previous owner placing his models next to a room heater.
I can think 2 more kits with misleading box art from the same period under RC2. The 77 Chevy Nova and the 77 Mustang II street machine kits. Both show stock wheels on the box but don't include them in the kit despite them being in the original issues of the kits.
Thanks Much on this comparison Raul. A kit I've got on the List but now which Daytona do I get? not interested in the Superbird. I do want steelies & dog dish caps? Revell make a Daytona 500 Wing car? I guess I'll look. I'm more confused Now LOL
You should enjoy reading this. aerowarriors.com/tsots.html They are scoops and Chrysler knew what they were doing but the rules allowed modifications to the fender for tire clearance on the race cars. So they put the scoops on the street cars. The Daytonas were a least functional as vents but the SuperBirds were not even cut open. Just had scoops bolted on. Chrysler stuck with the tire story for many years but the aerodynamic advantages have been discovered as how many race cars and high speed street cars now have air extractors right above the front tires!
These kits are very good donors for the Polar Lights NASCAR kits. The Polar Lights bodies are pure crap but they have all the parts to build an aero war era Mopar 200mph record breaker.
As a Daytona, this kit was never correct, even when it was the Isaac #71. The Richard Brooks Daytona was better, but still terrible. I just finished this kit earlier in the year. It's the one with the orange one from 1990 and I had started it around that time. I stole several items from the Revell Daytona because it's being built as a NASCAR race car. Made my own spoiler and added the spacer rubber between the nose cone and fenders too. I used aftermarket dog dish hub caps because the proper full wheel hubcaps are not attractive. I've built that Charger 500 too when it was new. Thanks for your video!
I wonder when Revell will reissue their '69 Charger. It sure appears to be better than AMT's at this point, no matter if AMT's is a Daytona kit or not. So far, I haven't seen anyone able to build AMT's '69 Charger kits and get the front and rear of the body to fit together properly. And gaps around the hood can be HUGE. Revell is re-releasing a '70 soon I think, but I want the '69 more.
If memory serves me correct, didn’t the early GTX and Super Bee kits come with both 440 and the Hemi? I know the Super Bee did as I recently built one of the earlier kits. Great video as always.
I couldn't remember so I dug my 69 GTX kits and 70 Super Bee kit. The 70 Super Bee is the 93 issue with purple car on box. Yes, it has both Hemi and 440 6pack engines and most of the pro street parts as well. No 4V for 440. I have 4 of the 69 GTX kits. First one is 90 issue with white GTX conv on box. This one is Hemi only and has Hemi molded on sides of correct 69 hood and all correct 69 GTX parts. Second one is 2002 issue with yellow GTX conv on box. This one is also just like the white box and Hemi only with correct hood. Next is 93 issue GTX Hardtop red car on box. This one is just like Super Bee with Both the Hemi and 440 6pack plus most pro street parts. Has correct 69 GTX chrome but 68 Road Runner hood. The last one I currently have is the 2012 issue 69 GTX hardtop with blue car on the box. This one has the Hemi plus the 440 6pack and also has the 440 4v intake and carb as well. It has a correct 69 GTX hood but the hood does not have Hemi on the hood like the conv kits do. So, this is very interesting and contradicts my memory. Plus I remember some of the 69 GTX kits had the 68 Roadrunner Hood and the 68 Roadrunner grill and 68 rear bumper without the backup lamps but still had the 69 GTX taillights and tail piece.
I haven’t built one of those in years because of how bad they are. I really hope revell brings theirs back again because it seems they’re really expensive second hand. Or for round 2 to retool their chargers to be better.
I have seen that one also. I believe that was the first one to have the corrected rear window instead of the 500 rear window. But it still had the 69 front fenders but a 70 style front bumper that fit into the 69 fenders.
I know it has been issued a few times but checking. It has not been issued since 2012! Didn’t realize it has been 12 years ago and the last time before that was 2001!
Ah, yes, the best of the worst casting Round 2 has (and by that I mean I think this casting should've been scrapped a LONG time ago). Round2 should've made a new tooling of this. I mean, when they do something new, it's superb. So, it would've been awesome if they had done a new mold of all of this. Starting with the 500, as they're the only one doing it. Sadly, they still have that "nostalgia sells" mindset.
It would be nice to see some modern day kits on the shelf. I wonder if it would appeal to younger kids to build something they see driving down the street.
Yes but Round2 is at least fixing some of these kits and are much more knowledgeable about the kits they are producing. RC2 was more of a Diecast company and didn’t care much about the model kits.
@@TheMuscleCarModeler ERTL before them weren't caring much about the upkeep of the molds either. But I think that Round2 in fixing that mold to get a "meh" result after all that hard work, should've retired it and do an all new tooling of the 500
@TheMuscleCarModeler Absolutely. I have their catalog when they acquired AMT and MPC and it was obvious they favored diecasts as that's where the money seemed to be.
that kit has always been a let down, lol, if someone wants to build and 69 charger revell is the way to go, even if you want a 69 charger 500, you can kit bash it from the daytona and charger, using maybe the MPC grill or a 3d printed grill from a 68 wagon coronet wagon
Yes, I agree, I have built the Revell 69 Daytona and I have even built a Revell based 69 Charger 500. Both of those builds are featured on this channel.
I'll be honest with you I've found 85% of amt and mpc to junk But when they make a good kit they make a great kit 66 nova awesome 70 bm camaro La france fire trucks Chrysler kit cars All great kits Did revell or mono make a winged car? Was it any better Maybe revell could tool one up or jr salvino could make one up
I heard about all the issues with the kit so just went with the Revell version (which I have yet to build). Thanks for the great video!
The Revell kit is way better but the front suspension and front of chassis can be a pain to get in correctly.
We all hate when the boxart shows certain details and they're nowhere to be found inside the kit! Happened to me several times, especially with older Fujimi kits! Thanks for a great video, keep up the great work 👍🏼
Yes. And it happens more that I would like.
The story I heard about the boxart not matching the kit contents is that RC2 (and Ertl) would contract out a build with an very difficult deadline. The builder would send a model that he already had on his shelf (of an earlier release) that had some of his enhancements on it. It is also interesting to note that many were build without glass to prevent glare when photographing, The "glass" would be airbrushed (or photoshopped) in.
I have heard that as well!
I have the MPC kit and it has everything your AMT kit has. I picked the kit up at a bargain store for $9. It was the first kit I chose when I decided to start modeling again as an adult. There are many things I had issues with. The carbs didn't fit the air filter assembly. The add on parts to the front were hard and took a lot of work to fit. I had to add some plastic to keep the front of the hood from falling in the engine bay. If I were to get this kit again, I would cut the bottom of the front fenders off and graft the add on pieces to the front fender. I should have installed the front wheels to the upper hole in the front suspension. I wound up cutting the rear bumper (I call them push wings) off because they came in contact with the body under the bumper. I didn't drill the rear exhaust pipe location holes and the rear exhaust pipes stick down too far and look awful. I want to buy another kit sometime and repair all the problems. I would also wire the spark plugs and do something different with the radiator. It looks awful from the bottom of the car. Last, I didn't paint the car because it was molded in red. I would paint the next kit I got. So I keep that first car boxed and on the shelf.
Cool. We all have to learn and this one will do it. Mine ended up as parts and I used the engine and chassis under a Modelhaus resin 70 Charger RT kit.
Thank you for sharing the detailed issues with these kits. I built the AMT/ERTL Daytona years and years ago. I also built a pseudo NASCAR version (no nose cone, no wing) as well. In my stash, I have the yellow plastic 1987 issue of the 500, one of the Dukes version and the F&F 70. I also have about 1/2 dozen of the various Revell kits. One part you did not mention was the incorrect 71 Charger grille insets that come in some of these reissues.
Thanks. I did forget about the 71 Grill inserts, but I have seen them.
What a trippy deal! I picked up most of the Walmart checkerboard 5-buck kits, so I may have this one buried in the closet. I never really liked the real ones. I used to call the Daytona and the Superbird "Flying Towel Racks" back when they were new, so maybe it's no big woop if mine never gets built. Interesting about the other kits parts to be more correct with this one. You sure do some good research!
Thanks.
I build the Daytona as it came in the U.S. Postal Service tin. I think I used at least one pound of putty on the nose. Thanks for sharing.
I believe it!
Nice review, I built the MPC branded one a couple of years ago, they are quite challenging, but with some patience, they can build up nice.
They sure are and like you said can be built up nice.
Thanks for the info. I have the postal stamp box version. I'll keep an eye out when I build it.👍
Enjoy it!
@@TheMuscleCarModeler
Will do! Just struggling on a factory color for it. Lol
Nice review and info
Thanks!
It's a very cool car. I built the Postal tin version & it does require some work to get the nose looking good. I used some sprue-goo and a little putty and it turned out pretty nice.
Yes it is.
You mentioned model kits at Walmart, I haven't seen any sold there for nearly 20 years! If this kit is unbuildable, good luck then! The one that I had to completely pitch out was the mpc 1983 Craig Carter IMSA Camero but that was due to the previous owner placing his models next to a room heater.
These were 20 years ago back when just about every Walmart had models. Most were $15.00 but these were $5.
Thank you for all the info Ralph.
My pleasure!
Have Revells Daytona and have no problem with the body work. It's wait for paint. Keep up with your good work. 😊
The Revell one is way better!
Very informative thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Wow! Excellent reviews. Who knew?👍😎
Thanks! 👍
I can think 2 more kits with misleading box art from the same period under RC2. The 77 Chevy Nova and the 77 Mustang II street machine kits. Both show stock wheels on the box but don't include them in the kit despite them being in the original issues of the kits.
How about the 74 Plymouth Duster kit but the picture and the car inside is a 74 Dodge Dart Sport.
Thanks Much on this comparison Raul. A kit I've got on the List but now which Daytona do I get? not interested in the Superbird. I do want steelies & dog dish caps? Revell make a Daytona 500 Wing car? I guess I'll look. I'm more confused Now LOL
Revell did make a 69 Daytona and it’s well worth getting!
Great information. I'm hoping One day they will release a non generic NASCAR Daytona
Rumors are the Salvinos JR is planning a Daytona.
I started a MPC daytona kit and couldn't figure out the nose cone ,ended up giving it away.
Have a great day. 😊
I'm sure a lot of them are unfinished.
wow great vid dou remember seeing a 1/1 my neighbor had although it was in need of some TLC far from the kit 😁🤩scooter 😎
Those were cool cars!
Those are not fender scoops, they are for tire clearance.
Thank you for showing us these kits.
You should enjoy reading this. aerowarriors.com/tsots.html
They are scoops and Chrysler knew what they were doing but the rules allowed modifications to the fender for tire clearance on the race cars. So they put the scoops on the street cars. The Daytonas were a least functional as vents but the SuperBirds were not even cut open. Just had scoops bolted on. Chrysler stuck with the tire story for many years but the aerodynamic advantages have been discovered as how many race cars and high speed street cars now have air extractors right above the front tires!
These kits are very good donors for the Polar Lights NASCAR kits. The Polar Lights bodies are pure crap but they have all the parts to build an aero war era Mopar 200mph record breaker.
Interesting. I have not thought of that.
As a Daytona, this kit was never correct, even when it was the Isaac #71. The Richard Brooks Daytona was better, but still terrible. I just finished this kit earlier in the year. It's the one with the orange one from 1990 and I had started it around that time. I stole several items from the Revell Daytona because it's being built as a NASCAR race car. Made my own spoiler and added the spacer rubber between the nose cone and fenders too. I used aftermarket dog dish hub caps because the proper full wheel hubcaps are not attractive. I've built that Charger 500 too when it was new. Thanks for your video!
Thanks for your input. I have a friend who has the original kits and I may borrow them someday and share what is in them.
RC2, also did that with their modified models. They had box art that was not what was available in the kit. It was a real bummer.
I'm sure it was disappointing.
I wonder when Revell will reissue their '69 Charger. It sure appears to be better than AMT's at this point, no matter if AMT's is a Daytona kit or not.
So far, I haven't seen anyone able to build AMT's '69 Charger kits and get the front and rear of the body to fit together properly. And gaps around the hood can be HUGE.
Revell is re-releasing a '70 soon I think, but I want the '69 more.
It’s been awhile since the Revell 69 Charger was issued. Like you said. They finally reissued the stock 70 Charger.
If memory serves me correct, didn’t the early GTX and Super Bee kits come with both 440 and the Hemi? I know the Super Bee did as I recently built one of the earlier kits. Great video as always.
I couldn't remember so I dug my 69 GTX kits and 70 Super Bee kit. The 70 Super Bee is the 93 issue with purple car on box. Yes, it has both Hemi and 440 6pack engines and most of the pro street parts as well. No 4V for 440. I have 4 of the 69 GTX kits. First one is 90 issue with white GTX conv on box. This one is Hemi only and has Hemi molded on sides of correct 69 hood and all correct 69 GTX parts. Second one is 2002 issue with yellow GTX conv on box. This one is also just like the white box and Hemi only with correct hood. Next is 93 issue GTX Hardtop red car on box. This one is just like Super Bee with Both the Hemi and 440 6pack plus most pro street parts. Has correct 69 GTX chrome but 68 Road Runner hood. The last one I currently have is the 2012 issue 69 GTX hardtop with blue car on the box. This one has the Hemi plus the 440 6pack and also has the 440 4v intake and carb as well. It has a correct 69 GTX hood but the hood does not have Hemi on the hood like the conv kits do. So, this is very interesting and contradicts my memory. Plus I remember some of the 69 GTX kits had the 68 Roadrunner Hood and the 68 Roadrunner grill and 68 rear bumper without the backup lamps but still had the 69 GTX taillights and tail piece.
Never was a fan of MPC kits. I found myself in possession of a '69 Charger kit.... I threw it in the trash! Really!
The first issues of the MPC kits are really nice body wise. Those annual kits get pricey but those are the ones to buy.
I haven’t built one of those in years because of how bad they are. I really hope revell brings theirs back again because it seems they’re really expensive second hand. Or for round 2 to retool their chargers to be better.
I haven’t looked to see what the Revell versions are selling for now. I still have two more unbuilt ones in my stash.
Don’t forget the f and f 70 charger wich the same kit as the one ur showing in this video .
I have seen that one also. I believe that was the first one to have the corrected rear window instead of the 500 rear window. But it still had the 69 front fenders but a 70 style front bumper that fit into the 69 fenders.
Thats right it was a 69. But I still love that kit
Cool.
There were quite a few kits during that era but it seems RC2 was the worst. I have some in my stash and most of them have some bad issues.
Yes RC2 was bad about this with many of the kits.
This kit is from a time when the amt kits were el cheapo.
Yes, but not anymore.
Maybe they lost the rights to bring it back on the shelf...I'm sure there is a lot of modeler that want a kit
What version are you referring to? I know the Dukes kit is now The Country Charger.
I think its a kit from jo-han..but I don't remember off hand
The JoHan kit is a 70 Superbird.
I see dodge Daytona around. But where is the Plymouth Superbird ....they need to reissue the kit
I know it has been issued a few times but checking. It has not been issued since 2012! Didn’t realize it has been 12 years ago and the last time before that was 2001!
Ah, yes, the best of the worst casting Round 2 has (and by that I mean I think this casting should've been scrapped a LONG time ago). Round2 should've made a new tooling of this. I mean, when they do something new, it's superb. So, it would've been awesome if they had done a new mold of all of this. Starting with the 500, as they're the only one doing it. Sadly, they still have that "nostalgia sells" mindset.
It would be nice to see some modern day kits on the shelf. I wonder if it would appeal to younger kids to build something they see driving down the street.
Yes but Round2 is at least fixing some of these kits and are much more knowledgeable about the kits they are producing. RC2 was more of a Diecast company and didn’t care much about the model kits.
@@TheMuscleCarModeler ERTL before them weren't caring much about the upkeep of the molds either. But I think that Round2 in fixing that mold to get a "meh" result after all that hard work, should've retired it and do an all new tooling of the 500
@TheMuscleCarModeler Absolutely. I have their catalog when they acquired AMT and MPC and it was obvious they favored diecasts as that's where the money seemed to be.
that kit has always been a let down, lol, if someone wants to build and 69 charger revell is the way to go, even if you want a 69 charger 500, you can kit bash it from the daytona and charger, using maybe the MPC grill or a 3d printed grill from a 68 wagon coronet wagon
Yes, I agree, I have built the Revell 69 Daytona and I have even built a Revell based 69 Charger 500. Both of those builds are featured on this channel.
I avoid AMT kits. Lousy building experience every time.
They do have some good ones also but need to know before you buy as you can’t always tell from the box.
That kit is a mess..to say the least..lol..i got a couple of versions in my stash.. probably never to get built
Probably many kits like that.
Terrible attention to detail with this kit
It happens when adding parts to a kit but not adjusting other parts to accept them.
I'll be honest with you I've found 85% of amt and mpc to junk
But when they make a good kit they make a great kit
66 nova awesome
70 bm camaro
La france fire trucks
Chrysler kit cars
All great kits
Did revell or mono make a winged car?
Was it any better
Maybe revell could tool one up or jr salvino could make one up
Revell made a 69 Daytona in the 90s and it is great. Monogram did a 70 Superbird in the 80s and I like it but it could be better.
@TheMuscleCarModeler that one I don't have in my collection
I have mostly gms
Nova chevelle etc