I worked on a Boss 351 back in the late ’70s. The solid-lifter camshaft and those 4V Cleveland heads made it a beast, but you had to know what you were doing to keep it tuned right. It was a high performance masterpiece, but not for the faint of heart when it came to maintenance...
@@CookeZachery I built a bunch of circle track engines and the heads were great. Better than the blocks and cranks though. And the Chevy guys were brown nosing track owners too keep them out. By that time, the unibody front had to go. One tap from a Camaro and your setup was gone. I did way better with the FE just to steer with the throttle . They knew that, but the 351c cars got beat on a lot. I was there.
@@Bbbbad724 Alright, folks. Look, the Boss 351 was undeniably a monster when tuned right, but let’s be honest Ford over engineered themselves into a corner. Yeah, I said it. Those 4V Cleveland heads were incredible on paper, but they needed sky-high RPMs to shine. That’s fine for track junkies, but not great for the street. And don’t get me started on the solid-lifter camshaft beautiful for performance but a nightmare for anyone who didn’t live under their hood. Here’s the kicker: the Boss 351’s biggest downfall wasn’t its design, it was Ford's inability to get the right blocks and machining into the hands of builders who could handle them. Add in those unibody frames that folded like a lawn chair with a hard Camaro tap, and you’ve got a car that lived fast and died young. It was killer but only if you knew how to handle it.
@@CookeZachery That is what I hated about what the track owners allowed, and Ford putting the package together that wasn’t completely scienced out, and the Chevy guys changing the rules rules every weekend. Dick Trickle was really pissed because he never knew what the rules would be when he pulled in. His #99 70 Mustang he ran until it aged out with a Tunnel Port and extra weight just to be able to throw weight in it. The Chevy guys wanted no part of the Cleveland and actually made anyone running at 358 to run a Windsor with 289-302 heads. If you did happen to win they would keep you there in the barn until 2:00AM. Local tracks were awful. You had better be running a smog head. GMPP was selling claimer heads but Ford didn’t get to do that. I a machine apprentice and a lot of dirty dealings in the Chevy camp, claiming someone and selling it right back. Fords didn’t claim but got torn down. Try slipping a 289 OE head in there, they would ban you. AE or SE only no pre 70 Mustang stuff. They ran 483 Dove FEs in Sprint Cars at Sandusky with the Modified drivers shell on Mile tracks in to the 90s . Winston Cup started in the 80s with Yates and Ernie Elliot specing engines finally. But to this day many tracks still make you run a 70s-80s Windsor with 2Vs.
You're absolutely right Bob Gledden truly proved what the 351 Cleveland could do, showcasing its raw power and versatility as one of the ultimate small-blocks. His iconic performances left a lasting impact, reminding us all why the Cleveland is a legend in the muscle car world! Thank you for sharing your thoughts, and let's keep this passion alive! I’m doing my best to ignite the love for American Muscle Cars and bring more exciting stories like this. Don’t forget to comment, share, and subscribe for more muscle car content, let’s keep the roar of these engines alive...
when I was young. My neighbor had a Boss 351 sitting in his barn for decades. It was rusted and neglected, but we spent a year restoring it together. Hearing that Cleveland engine roar to life after so many years was a moment I’ll never forget.
Man, I get the love for the Boss 351, but honestly, I'd take a 351 Windsor over it any day. Clevelands are awesome when dialed in, but they’re a nightmare for street use too much head flow, not enough low-end torque. My old Windsor pulled hard off the line and kept me grinning. Restoring’s cool, but practicality wins for me. Rust buckets? I’ll pass unless they’re Windsor powered....
Yes, so great....what an incredible story! Bringing a Boss 351 back to life is no small feat, it’s a true labor of love. That Cleveland engine is a masterpiece of power and sound, and hearing it roar again must’ve been like music to your ears! Restorations like this not only save iconic cars but also create unforgettable memories. For everyone watching, we’d love to hear about your restoration stories or favorite muscle car memories in the comments. Don’t forget to share this video and subscribe to keep these American muscle legends alive. Hope to see you in the next video, have a great day
Thank you so much for your comment You’re absolutely right, the De Tomaso Pantera with its powerful American muscle engine is truly a remarkable machine. The Pantera, with its Ford 351 Cleveland V8, delivers incredible performance, blending Italian design with American engineering. That 351 Cleveland was a game-changer, known for its robust power and versatility. It was an engine that dominated in the '70s and left a lasting impact on the muscle car world. We appreciate your passion for this iconic engine! For those who are curious about more of the best American muscle engines and the cars that made them legendary, we invite you to dive into the history and engineering behind these machines.Don’t forget to comment below with your thoughts, share with fellow muscle car enthusiasts, and subscribe to stay updated on all the latest content on American muscle cars Let’s keep the conversation going
I remember seeing a Boss 351 Mustang at a local car show when I was a teenager. The sound of that engine starting up was unforgettable..... 😍😍It’s the car that made me fall in love with muscle cars and it’s still a dream to own one someday
I’ve got a 1971 Boss 351 in my collection, and let me tell you, it’s a head turner every time I take it out. The high-revving Cleveland engine is a joy to drive, and the rarity of the car makes it even more special. so beautiful...
Wow, what an incredible memory The Boss 351 Mustang truly stands out with its roaring Cleveland V8 and unmatched performance, a masterpiece of muscle car history. That unforgettable sound and raw power have inspired generations of fans. Keep chasing that dream of owning one; it's the kind of car that makes all the hard work worthwhile. To everyone watching, share your own muscle car dreams or stories in the comments below! Don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe to Muscle Car Masters for more classic car passion. Wishing you all the best, and see you in the next video. Have a fantastic day
That's an awesome setup you’ve got with that 351 Cleveland, man With the Arrow block, hydraulic roller cam, and Trickflow heads pushing out 600 rwhp, that’s serious power on tap! The Cleveland's deep breathing potential really shines when you’ve got a combination like that. You’re definitely building a beast under the hood To everyone else watching, drop a comment below and share your thoughts or setups! Let’s keep the muscle car community alive and thriving Don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe for more American muscle goodness. We’re just getting started here at American Muscle Cars
You're absolutely right The Ford Falcon GTHO Phase III in Australia became legendary, powered by the 351 Cleveland-a motor we proudly associate with American muscle. Its impressive 160mph top speed was thanks to its highway-friendly diff ratio, setting it apart from drag setups. The GTHO remains a testament to Ford's engineering brilliance down under, rivaling many American muscle cars of its era! We'd love to hear more stories about these incredible machines. Don’t forget to comment, share your thoughts, and subscribe to American Muscle Cars! Hope to see you in the next video-stay awesome and have a fantastic day
I get the love for the Aussie Falcons, but let’s not get carried away here. Sure, the GTHO Phase III is a legend down under, but calling it a true American muscle car? Nah. It’s a great machine, but it didn’t pack the same raw, untamed attitude that our Mustangs, Chargers, and Camaros had back in the day.
@AdelynDodson The story was about the ford Cleveland Boss 351 motors and that's what's in the GTHO with the shaker air scoop. It could smoke the American ford cars because it was lighter and had a better suspension set-up. These motors were used in Australia for several more years. Ford in Australia is the same company as Ford America.
@@MrJak427 Those Aussie Falcons are cool and all, but let’s keep it real 3.25, 3.5, and 3.9 rear gears are solid, but they don’t scream American muscle to me. Our Mustangs, Camaros, and Challengers were out there laying rubber with big blocks and 4.10s or 4.56s, built for quarter mile dominance.
Thank you for sharing, that 4V Cleveland in your '70 Mach 1 was indeed a legend The 4V heads delivered incredible airflow, making it a powerhouse on the streets and the strip. Paired with the right carburetor and headers, that engine could dominate just about anything in its path. The Mach 1’s aggressive styling and raw power make it one of the most iconic muscle cars ever built. We’d love to hear more stories from you and other fans Keep those comments coming, share your experiences, and don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe to American Muscle Cars! Hope to see you in the next videos. Have a fantastic day
@MuscleCarMasters68 my 1970 4v Cleveland came with the higher compression closed chamber design I recammed it,,, installed a larger Holley carb,,, and big tube headers and easily out performed my friends 70 Mach1 that had the 428CJ... I believe it was ford's best designed engine,,, and why DeTomaso chose it for the Pantera...
@@SpeedyPalomino Absolutely, that 4V Cleveland was a beast in the '70 Mach 1 The closed-chamber heads really set it apart, allowing for higher compression and better performance, especially with a larger carb and big tube headers. You’re right, Ford’s design with the Cleveland was on another level - it was truly one of their finest. And DeTomaso knew what they were doing by choosing it for the Pantera, no doubt! Thanks for sharing your experience. Have a good day. hope to see you next time.
We had 1970 Torino Dad bought new and optioned the 351C with power brakes. Didnt realize how fast the family hauler could be until i got 2 speeding tickets within 2 weeks of my 16th b day. Got my DL ON my b day and it was the best present ever!!
The 1970 Torino with the 351 Cleveland was a true sleeper-a family hauler with serious power under the hood. That engine, especially with the optional 4-barrel carb, could pump out an impressive 300 horsepower. It’s no wonder it got you into a little trouble so soon after getting your license! Ford really knew how to balance performance and practicality, making the Torino a standout in its lineup. To all our fellow muscle car enthusiasts, what’s your favorite memory with a classic muscle car? Let us know in the comments-we’d love to hear your stories! And don’t forget to subscribe to the channel for more deep dives into American Muscle Cars. Share this video with your friends, too-let’s keep the muscle car passion alive Wishing you a fantastic day and a Merry Christmas from all of us at Muscle Car Masters
I grew up in Australia, and I've built hundreds of Cleveland's. I can tell you 3 things about them; 1) the Cleveland, and the Boss 302, are the most misunderstood performance engines in history. 2) the greatest weakness of the Cleveland is Team Small Port engine builders, you can't build them like Chev's or Windsor's, if you do, you will lack performance, and have engine failures. 3) they go like stink!!!
Thank you for sharing your experience and passion for the Cleveland engine! It’s amazing to hear from someone who’s built hundreds of these legendary powerplants. You’re absolutely right, both the Cleveland and Boss 302 are among the most misunderstood performance engines in history. Their unique design, especially the large-port heads, can trip up builders who treat them like Chevy small-blocks or Windsors. They demand their own blueprint for success, but when built correctly? They’re beasts on the track and street alike... Cleveland's go like stink for a reason the high-flow heads, proper cam profiles, and tuning unleash untamed performance. We love hearing insights like this from fans around the globe. Muscle car culture transcends borders! To everyone watching, let’s keep the conversation going Comment your Cleveland stories, share this with fellow car enthusiasts, and subscribe to American Muscle Cars. Hope to see you in the next video. Have a great day, and keep roaring
@MuscleCarMasters68 your comment about cam profiles has more substance than almost anyone realises. Almost all camshafts are ground off Team Small Port knowledge. Great for inline valve, small port volume heads, and absolutely wrong for large port, canted valve heads. They are a very different animal, and require a different thought processes.
@@theshed8802 Thank you for your incredible insight! Cam profiles truly are the secret sauce to unlocking the full potential of Cleveland and Boss 302 engines. These beasts need precision tuning and a camshaft designed for their unique large-port, canted-valve heads. When done right? They deliver unmatched performance on the street and track Hope to see you in the next video, stay awesome and have a great day...
You're spot on about the Boss 351, it truly marked the end of an era for Ford's muscle car dominance in the early '70s. With its solid-lifter cam, high-compression 4-barrel Cleveland engine, and rev-happy 5,800 RPM redline, it was a beast designed for pure performance. Though emissions regulations and insurance rates began to tame horsepower wars, the Boss 351 stood as a final roar of muscle car glory. We’d love to hear your thoughts on other underrated legends Drop a comment, share this with fellow enthusiasts, and don’t forget to subscribe to American Muscle Cars. Hope to see you in the next video, have a fantastic day
And let’s not forget the 460 police interceptors they were keeping the muscle alive even when the EPA was breathing down everyone’s neck. Sure, the era started winding down, but Ford wasn’t throwing in the towel just yet. The Boss was great, but it wasn’t the end all be all of Ford muscle.
The Corvair’s flat-6 engine, while not a traditional muscle car engine, is relevant because it paved the way for turbocharging in American cars, influencing future performance tech. Chevy's bold move with a rear-mounted, air-cooled design showcased innovation during the muscle car era. It’s these unique stories that connect the dots in automotive history! Keep those questions coming, we love diving deeper into the roots of American performance. Hope to see you in the next videos Stay curious, keep those engines roaring, and have a fantastic day. Don’t forget to comment, share, and subscribe to American Muscle Cars
I found a 2bbl 351C in a wrecking yard, took it home and rebuilt it. The 2bbl version had wider crankshaft bearing saddles than the 4bbl blocks. Although I didn't have access to a dyno back then, it was easy to tell this motor meant business. I had the cylinders punched .030" over, a cam (I forget the specs), Edelbrock Torquer intake, 750cfm Holley carb, Hooker headers, Accel dual point distributer, all in a '72 coup body Mustang. The C6 trans had a hard time and couldn't maintain the horsepower, and my budget was shot down after the 3rd transmission rebuild. But, boy was it fun to drive...
Wow, Charles! That 2bbl 351 Cleveland build sounds like a true labor of love-and what a beast you created! The setup you described, with the .030" bore, Torquer intake, and 750cfm Holley, must have been an absolute blast in that '72 Mustang coupe. It's incredible how tough those Cleveland blocks were, whether 2-bolt or 4-bolt mains. Too bad the C6 couldn't handle all that raw power, but hey, the memories are priceless, right? Muscle car fans, what’s your best engine build story? Share your thoughts in the comments, and don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe to American Muscle Cars Have an amazing day
Y’all can keep your 428 CJ setups and Super Snakes. Sure, they were strong, but nothing compared to the Boss 351’s raw precision. Those Cleveland 4V heads flowed like a race car, and the solid cam? Pure adrenaline.
The Cleveland engine with its high revving nature and bulletproof bottom end? That’s what true performance feels like. Plus, the handling on the 71 is leagues ahead of those big-block bruisers.
@@Bbbbad724 LOL! Y’all can keep drooling over your big blocks and 428 CJs. Sure, they packed a punch, but the Boss 351? That Cleveland breathed like a champ straight off the track. Solid lifters, high-revving precision, and torque that could yank a house down, how’s that for muscle? Forget brute force. the Boss was all about finesse and domination. Different block, same story: Cleveland reigns supreme....😆
@ I know that they did, I wish they fit the FE, but they didn’t have the numbers of parts that the cumulative years yields. They did not make them for 25 years like the 352s 390s 410and such and they packed a punch too, we all love Fords, but they should have kept the FE and made Cleveland heads for them. They were sorted and way more cores and they weighed the same.
Wow, what an incredible story The Trojan Horse Mustang sounds like a real legend in your city. That 351 Cleveland engine was no joke - known for its high-revving nature and impressive power, it truly dominated the streets in its day. Beating challengers from TN, GA, NC, and SC? That’s muscle car royalty right there! The 351 Cleveland's canted valve heads and large ports were ahead of their time, making it a favorite for enthusiasts who knew how to unleash its full potential. It’s stories like yours that keep the spirit of American Muscle alive. Have a good day.
@@LoneWrencher You're absolutely right - the 351 Cleveland was a beast, and the Trojan Horse Mustang definitely made a statement. Those high-revving capabilities, combined with the raw power of the Cleveland's canted valves and big ports, made it a street king. It wasn't just about muscle; it was about pure performance, outlasting and outpacing everything that dared to challenge it. It's legends like this that fuel the fire of American Muscle. Hope to see you next videos Have a great days.
Those Cleveland output numbers were underestimated for insurance reasons and considering the 1971 Pantera with 10 to 1 compression was 347 fly wheel horsepower (aprox) the boss had to be more, much more
You're absolutely right, the Cleveland numbers were often downplayed to navigate insurance premiums, a common strategy back then. The 1971 Pantera's 351C with 10:1 compression pushed around 347 horsepower, and the Boss 351 likely exceeded that with its higher-performance cam and better heads. Ford knew how to pack hidden punch into their engines! What are your thoughts on the Boss Mustang's real-world dominance? Share your insights Don't forget to comment, share, and subscribe to American Muscle Cars for more deep dives into legends like this. Hope to see you in the next video-have an amazing day, and keep that muscle roaring
Pantera had that impressive 10:1 compression and hit around 347 hp, but let’s not forget it had better tuning and a European focus. The Boss 351, as legendary as it is, was rated honestly for its time 330hp net translates to a lot less than some folks dream up. Insurance dodging?
@ in the late 60s and early 70s insurance companies would partly base your insurance cost on the horsepower ratings of the car so car companies would under rate their motors as an incentive to get people into the cars
@ if you ever want to really question the European focus look up the rear brake pads on a 1971 Pantera look up the whole calliper it will cause panic. I thought the fox body rear drums were bad but the Pantera, that terrifies me the front brakes are good the back brakes are scary. I think you had two choices, sliding and nothing and the discs are unvented three-quarter (roughly) inch plate. Get those suckers hot and you might as well go for a beer waiting for them to cool down. They made some interesting choices on that car but in 1981 that was the highest tested (cannot remember what mag) of all the European super cars at the time which isn’t really saying much but it’s still interesting considering Ferrari Porsche and Lamborghini were in the game
@@600wheel You're spot on about the insurance game in the late '60s and early '70s, car companies played it smart by underrating horsepower to keep premiums manageable. The Pantera's 351 Cleveland is a beast, with its 10:1 compression delivering underrated performance. And you're right about those brakes! The unvented rear discs were a wild choice overheat them, and you're in for a long cool-down. The Pantera's blend of American power and Italian design is fascinating, especially when it outshined the Euro supercars of the early '80s in some tests. Speaking of underrated, the Boss 351's power was no joke Ford had a knack for sneaking insane performance under the radar. What’s your take on the Pantera vs. Boss Mustang in real-world thrills? Drop your thoughts below, share this with your car-loving friends, and hit subscribe for more muscle car magic. Keep that passion roaring, and have an amazing day Hope to see you in the next video...
Great observation You’re spot on with the comparison to the L78 heads on the 396 and 427 big blocks. Those 2.19-inch intake valves are a big part of what made the L78 so potent, especially for performance enthusiasts. The canted valve design helped improve airflow, maximizing the engine’s efficiency and power. It’s no wonder these heads were so sought after by those looking to make serious horsepower in the muscle car world. Keep sharing your knowledge, folks! Let’s get a conversation going about these powerhouse engines, comment, share, and don't forget to subscribe for more muscle car history and insights...
Man, working at a dealership and not getting to drive a Boss 351 must’ve been a heartbreaker That engine was a beast Ford packed it with high-compression Cleveland heads, a solid-lifter cam, and a massive 750 CFM carb, pushing 330 horses on paper (but we know it was likely more). It’s one of those engines that defined raw, unfiltered American muscle, capable of tearing up the quarter-mile with ease. The sound alone is unforgettable a symphony of power and precision. If you ever get a chance to hear or even feel one in action, trust me, it’s an experience you won’t forget. Have a good day.
Fords greatest engine?? The Coyote sure making some big moves in that direction but a Clevor is my favourite even though it doesn’t really count but a Cleveland top end on a Windsor bottom end is a thing of mechanical beauty or just take the 351 Cleveland and fix the oiling problem (easy) and I am a happy guy. All that said I wouldn’t trade my supercharged 331 Windsor for nothin. 600 wheel and I haven’t had to open the motor (head gaskets but not because they blew I just wanted Cometics and had to wait) since I built it 16 years ago and I drive the shit out of her
Wow, what a beast you’ve got there with that supercharged 331 Windsor 600 wheel horsepower and 16 years of hard driving, now that’s a testament to solid engineering and passionate wrench work! The Clevor setup is legendary for a reason, blending the best of Cleveland’s high-flow heads with Windsor’s reliability. Fixing the Cleveland oiling issues is indeed an easy win for massive potential. Ford fans, chime in what’s YOUR favorite Ford engine setup? Let’s keep the conversation alive! Don’t forget to comment, share, and subscribe to American Muscle Cars. Hope to see you in the next videos, have a great day... Note: This response by a fan's muscle cars... just kidding... have a good day.
Haha, love the passion, but I gotta say, the Boss 351 Cleveland deserves its own crown. The Clevor is cool, no doubt, but piecing it together feels like admitting Ford didn’t get it right from the start. A well-built Cleveland oiling mods and all is a brute straight out of the box. Sure, your supercharged 331 Windsor is badass, but I’ll take the raw, naturally aspirated grunt of a Boss 351 any day.
@ the oiling system on the Windsor is what brings me back to her. I know you can borrowed the lifter bored and put restricting bushings in but I still just can’t get away from the fact the Windsor has oiling solved! But you’re right the heads isn’t the nightmare it’s getting the intake for the cleaver that just takes your bank account and throws a fck into it
@ …… you are right when someone wants to argue Ford against anything I bring up the Cleveland. Those canted valves on a small block revving monster usually end the conversation.
@@600wheel that an incredible insight into the Windsor’s oiling system. Ford nailed it there, and it's hard to beat that reliability. The Clevor setup, while a bank-breaker, proves itself every time by marrying Cleveland’s canted-valve magic with Windsor’s practicality. Those canted valves? A total game-changer! That’s why the Cleveland dominates bench-racing debates high-revving, high-flow, small-block monsters that just don’t quit. Ford fans, let’s hear from you-what’s your ultimate setup? Whether you’re building a Windsor, a Clevor, or a full Cleveland beast, we’d love to know what you’re running. Keep the engine talk roaring in the comments! Don’t forget to share this video with your fellow gearheads and subscribe to American Muscle Cars for more deep dives into legendary powerplants. Hope to see you in the next video. Keep wrenching, keep driving, and have a fantastic day...
Thanks for sharing your thoughts The 427 Cammer, a legendary engine, set records with its all-aluminum block, lightweight design, and mind-blowing horsepower. It's often considered the pinnacle of Ford performance in the 1960s, dominating both on the street and the track. Then, there's the 289 HiPo-Shelby’s favorite! It’s known for its high-revving nature and efficiency, laying down the foundation for many legendary muscle cars, like the GT350. Both engines are icons in the world of American Muscle Drop your thoughts below, share your experiences, and don't forget to hit that subscribe button to keep the muscle car passion alive...
@@larrykimball6270 @larrykimball6270, The 289's thick cylinder walls make it an ideal candidate for stroker builds, allowing for increased displacement and more power. This flexibility has made it a favorite among enthusiasts looking to push the limits of performance while keeping that classic 289 charm. The 427 Cammer and the 289 HiPo are both amazing in their own right, setting the standard for muscle car engineering. Thanks for your input-always great to hear from fellow muscle car fans! Hope to see you in our newest videos. Don’t forget to comment, share, and subscribe to keep the American Muscle Car passion alive Have a nice day
Great Engine for making power. Would run with or beat big-block powered cars. Not as good as the Windsor for reliability over time. That Autolite 4300D carburetor was problematic.
big power doesn’t mean perfect. Sure, it could hang with big blocks, but let’s be real: those solid lifters and high-rev nature meant constant tuning and babysitting to keep it running top-notch. And that Autolite 4300D carb?
Thank you for your awesome comment The Boss 351 truly was a beast when it came to raw power running with or even beating big-blocks in its heyday was no small feat! You’re spot on about its competition heritage, but yes, the Windsor edges it out for long-term reliability. That Autolite 4300D carburetor definitely had its quirks, especially with tuning at high RPMs, but when dialed in, it helped deliver some serious performance. The Boss 351’s solid lifter cam and free-breathing heads made it a force to reckon with on the streets and track alike What’s your favorite muscle car memory? We’d love to hear more stories from you and everyone here. Don’t forget to like, comment, share, and subscribe to American Muscle Cars Let’s keep celebrating these legends together. Hope to see you in the next video. Have a fantastic day, and stay fueled with passion for muscle cars
@AilaniMadden Yes, The Boss 351 was truly something special raw power packed into a high-revving small-block that could run with the best big-blocks of its time. You nailed it: those solid lifters and Autolite 4300D carb were a double-edged sword. They required finesse to keep them performing at their peak, but when tuned right, they unleashed serious horsepower. The Boss 351’s free-breathing heads and aggressive cam profile made it a street and strip icon, but it wasn’t for the faint of heart this was a true driver’s car, built for those who loved to tinker and push limits. Hope to see you in the next video. Stay fueled with muscle car passion and have an amazing day....
I'm not an expert on either the Cleveland or the Chevy LT1, but in 1971 it looks like they put out the same HP. The difference is that the Chevy had a better oiling system, and it also looks lighter. Maybe someone can chime in here with some facts? Anyway, they're both great engines, as are the Windsors.
@panchorodriguez7246 Thanks for your awesome comment Yes...both the Cleveland and the Chevy LT1 were rated at around 275-330 HP in 1971, depending on the setup. The LT1 did have a more efficient oiling system, and being a small block, it was definitely lighter, giving it an edge for high-rev applications. The Cleveland, on the other hand, had those legendary 4V heads for incredible breathing at higher RPMs, making it a beast on the track. And hey, let’s not forget the Windsor-another solid Ford icon What’s your favorite American muscle engine? Drop your thoughts, share this video, and subscribe for more deep dives into muscle car legends have a great day, hope to see you in newest videos....
@@panchorodriguez7246 Thanks so much for your awesome input You're right, the small block Chevy is a true legend in the muscle car world, and that old iron really does have a special place in every car enthusiast’s heart. It’s amazing how each engine, like the LT1 or the Cleveland, brings its own unique characteristics to the table. Whether it's the Chevy’s rev-happy small block or the Ford’s powerful breathing 4V heads, they both make those old cars something special. Let’s keep this conversation going-what’s your ultimate muscle car engine? Drop your thoughts, share this video, and don’t forget to subscribe for more deep dives into the best of American muscle Hope to see you in our newest videos have a fantastic weekend
Yes, most of the criticism about the 429 SCJ comes from people who’ve never even seen one, let alone driven it! This beast was built for pure performance-factory-rated at 375 hp, but we all know that number was a little “conservative.” The staggered valve heads? Sure, they’re unique, but in the hands of the right tuner, they unlock serious power. And let’s not forget the Drag Pack option with the oil cooler and 4.30 gears-it made this Mustang an absolute quarter-mile monster. So yeah, maybe some folks talk trash, but it’s likely because they’re standing on the sidelines. True American Muscle fans respect what the 429 SCJ brings to the table. Let us know your thoughts, everyone! Comment, share, and hit that subscribe button to join our muscle car family. Hope to see you in the next video stay awesome, and have a great day
Hey @paratrooperlane7022, you’re absolutely right The early 327s were absolute powerhouses, especially in the Corvettes and Chevy II, where they were cranking out 375 horsepower. That early small-block V8 is still considered one of the best examples of engineering in American muscle history. It's hard to beat the raw sound and power they delivered on the streets and tracks. Thank you for sharing that! Let’s keep the discussion going tell us your thoughts and experiences with these iconic engines Don’t forget to comment, share, and subscribe for more American Muscle Car content, let’s keep the passion alive
Thanks for your awesome comment The 427, 429, and Boss 351 engines truly represent Ford’s muscle car dominance, each legendary in its own right. The 429 Boss was built for power and speed, dominating NASCAR, while the 427’s history in drag racing and Le Mans makes it iconic. The Boss 351 combined raw performance with street reliability, making it a fan favorite. Let’s hear more from you all-what’s your favorite Ford engine and why? Drop a comment, share this video, and subscribe to American Muscle Cars! Hope to see you in the next video. Stay legendary, and have a great day
Sure, the big boys like the 427 and 429 ruled the drag strips, but the Boss 351 was lighter, revved faster, and gave Mustangs the agility they needed to dominate.
It's just too bad that they didn't make the valve seats in the engine capable of running regular unlanded fuel. That was one of the downfalls of the engine, and it would cause a lot of issues. Secondly the 351 Cleveland boss was not anything that's special. No different than the four barrel, carb and heads just made it a higher revving, higher, powered less streetable engine and what a lot of people don't realize is that originally the 302 boss was a three fifty one cleveland 4 barrel head on a 302 which made it a high river, but it didn't make it a very good performance engine on the streets. This is why I don't like these channels because they don't really know what they're talking about.A real enthusiast would know that 302 351w was a low revving v8 vs 351c that made big blocks looked small..
Thank you for your detailed comment, @Brutalford It’s great to see such passion and knowledge about these iconic engines. You’re absolutely right about the challenges with valve seats and unleaded fuel-it’s a point that’s often overlooked but crucial for understanding the evolution of these engines. The distinction you mentioned between the 351 Cleveland Boss and the standard four-barrel Cleveland is valid, as the Boss variants were engineered more for high-performance applications, often at the expense of everyday drivability. We appreciate your insights on the 302 Boss origins with the Cleveland heads; it's a fascinating piece of automotive history that highlights Ford’s experimental engineering during the muscle car era. Your perspective adds depth to the conversation To all our viewers, we love hearing your thoughts-keep them coming! Don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe to American Muscle Cars for more discussions and features on the greatest vehicles of all time
You’re absolutely right to point out the math, and it’s always worth a double-check With 4.10 gears, hitting 147 mph would require a high-revving setup, likely exceeding the factory Boss 351 Cleveland’s 6,000 RPM limit unless paired with an overdrive or custom gearing. The Boss 351 was built for power off the line, not top-speed runs, with its 330hp beast of an engine and 11.0:1 compression ratio dominating the quarter-mile instead. What do you think about these specs? Let us know in the comments, share your knowledge, and subscribe to dive deeper into American Muscle Cars Have a great day and Merry Christmas
Hey there Richard Petty didn't use the 351 Cleveland, nor did he drive a Ford in the 1970s. Petty was famously behind the wheel of Plymouth and Dodge cars during that era, making history with models like the Plymouth Superbird and Dodge Charger. These beasts were icons of NASCAR and true muscle car legends! Thanks for pointing that out! What’s your favorite Petty ride or race memory? Let us know in the comments! And remember to share, like, and subscribe for more muscle car history. Have a great day and Merry Christmas to all enthusiasts out there
Thanks for your comment The Ford 427 SOHC, also known as the 'Cammer,' was a beast, designed to dominate NASCAR with its single overhead cam design and unmatched power. The Boss 351, though smaller, was a high-revving legend with Cleveland heads and a solid-lifter cam for street and strip supremacy. Each engine had its own magic-raw power versus race-bred precision. What’s your favorite Ford powerhouse? Let us know in the comments Don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe to American Muscle Cars for more legendary engines and muscle car history. Hope to see you in the next video-have a great day
Sure, the SOHC engines were legendary in drag racing, but they were temperamental and priced out of reach for the average muscle car fan. The Boss 351, with its solid lifters, free-breathing heads, and high-revving nature, was a beast right off the showroom floor. Plus, it didn’t need the constant tuning the 427 demanded.
Thanks for your comment The Ford Boss 351 engine is a true gem in the muscle car world. With its powerful 351 cubic-inch V8, it was engineered for high performance, particularly during the early '70s. It boasted 330 horsepower, which was impressive for its time, and its aluminum intake manifold helped it breathe efficiently. The engine's solid construction and reliable performance made it a standout in both street and track settings. The Boss 351 also had a distinctive high-rise intake manifold, paired with a four-barrel carburetor, which helped it achieve great torque at mid-range RPMs. Despite its short production run, it has earned a legendary status among muscle car enthusiasts. If you love these iconic engines, feel free to share your thoughts, questions, or experiences below. Don’t forget to comment, share, and subscribe to the channel for more in-depth insights and discussions on your favorite American Muscle Cars. Let’s keep this community growing
The Boss 351 was still laying waste to Pontiacs in the early 70s. That Cleveland 4v head design and 11:1 compression were untouchable when tuned right. I worked on one myself, and yeah, it needed finesse, but it delivered every ounce of that 330 hp when dialed in.
Ford kept muscle alive with raw performance and engineering like no other. After 1970, it wasn’t all about brute power; the Boss 351 proved finesse and high-revving dominance could still rule the streets.
Thank you for sharing your experience and keeping the muscle car spirit Pontiac indeed carried the muscle car torch into the '70s, and their dominance on the street remains legendary. That said, many fans still argue the Boss 351 was the king of its time, with unmatched performance and engineering for 1971. Perhaps it’s time for all our viewers to chime in what do you think truly defines a street king after 1970? Share your thoughts below, subscribe for more muscle car history, and let’s keep this debate roaring Hope to see you in the next video, and have a fantastic day
@@AilaniMadden while the Boss 351 was impressive, let’s not overlook the Pontiac 455 HO. Sure, the Cleveland heads were a masterpiece, but Pontiac wasn’t just sitting around...The 455 HO brought torque for days, and on the street, torque rules. The Boss might’ve been a rev-happy screamer, but Pontiacs were all about delivering power down low where it counts.
Hardened valve gear? Great question In engines like the Ford Boss 351, ‘hardened valve gear’ refers to parts-like valve seats and valve stems-designed to handle high-performance stress and modern unleaded fuels. Back in the day, leaded fuel helped lubricate the valve seats, but when unleaded fuel came along, engines needed tougher materials to prevent wear. The Boss 351 was ahead of its time, sporting durable components that let it scream to 6,000 RPM and beyond, all while staying reliable. That’s part of why it’s still a legend today. Got more questions about muscle car tech, history, or just cool stories? Drop them below, we love hearing from fellow gearheads! Don’t forget to share this with friends, smash that subscribe button, and keep the muscle car love alive.
@ I know exactly what you were saying but the way you said it made it sound funny. Thanx for the effort put into teaching. If you want to answer a question is this channel an AI channel? Does AI do all the video and voice work as well as answer the comments??
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JUNK ALL CLEVELAND MOTORS I OWNED WERE CRAP / WINDSOR BETTER - 70 TORINO GT HA D JUNK MOTOR WITH HEAD PROBLEMS / ALSO A 400 MOTOR IN A 75 WAS CHIT / SORRY I OWNED THIS CRAP AT ONE TIME == AVOID IT
Thanks for sharing your experience It’s clear you've had some tough times with the Cleveland motors, and I really appreciate your perspective. The Cleveland 351, especially the earlier versions, did have some head gasket and overheating issues that turned some people away. However, for others, the Cleveland was still a high-performance engine option, especially with its 4V heads that delivered impressive power when tuned right. On the other hand, the Windsor 351, like the one in your 70 Torino GT, was known for being a bit more reliable overall, which is why so many Ford enthusiasts prefer it for its durability and ease of modification. But, as you mentioned, every engine has its strengths and weaknesses, and it’s important to find what works best for your needs. I’d love to hear more thoughts from everyone what’s your experience with these engines? Comment below, share your thoughts, and don’t forget to subscribe for more deep dives into these iconic American Muscle Cars...
Hey there Sorry the Boss 351 video didn’t rev your engine. The Boss 351 was a powerhouse of its time, pushing out 330 hp and built for high-revving thrills with its solid lifter camshaft and 4-speed manual. This beast was a track legend, and maybe our next video will showcase what made it such a standout in muscle car history! Share your thoughts-what gets your motor running? Let’s keep this community growing, don’t forget to comment, share, and subscribe for more legendary muscle car stories. Hope to see you in the next video, and as always, have a fantastic day...
Thanks for sharing your thoughts While the Ford Boss 351 may seem like just another pushrod engine, it's much more than that. With its powerful 351 Cleveland block, solid performance, and unique styling, it made a lasting impact on the muscle car scene. The Boss 351 was all about high-revving performance, with a redesigned intake manifold and improved exhaust system, making it a true powerhouse for enthusiasts. We appreciate your input Keep the comments coming, and let us know what you think about the Boss 351. Don't forget to comment, share, and subscribe for more muscle car content
When I was in high school I had a 69 Dodge RT charger 440 tripower Force beam there was an older person who had been out of school 44 or 5 years and he ran around with a 351 Cleveland in a boss Mustang I mopped up the town with everybody except this guy I really thought it was gonna be an easy race and it wasn't it was even through the first 2 gears and it wasn't till I got to the top end of third year that I actually started to pull away you just can't beat cubic inches
Wow, what an incredible story! A ‘69 Dodge Charger R/T with a 440 Six Pack going head-to-head with a Boss Mustang running a 351 Cleveland? That’s muscle car heaven right there! The Charger’s sheer cubic inches would have been hard to beat, especially on the top end, but the Boss 351 Cleveland wasn’t about to make it easy with its high-revving power and insane top-end potential. That race must’ve been a sight to see and you proved the old saying true: There’s no replacement for displacement. These stories are what make the muscle car era unforgettable real American horsepower battling it out on the streets. We’d love to hear more stories from everyone about your high school muscle cars and street racing days! Don’t forget to comment below, share this video with fellow car enthusiasts, and subscribe to American Muscle Cars Hope to see you in the next video. Have an amazing day, gearheads....
@MuscleCarMasters68 Thanks for the comment I'm 58 now and I was 17 at the time this happened the tripower didn't come standard on that car the person I bought it from had put it on it had A General dynamics cam of 284 duration 484 lift but yeah it was a good race it's hard to believe so many years have come and gone since then It's blessed to catch the muscle car era when I did I was 17 years old and that very next autumn I joined the Army things are sure different now aren't they once again thanks for the response
@@NathanStickney-xv6dy Thanks for your comment Disagreements like this fuel the passion we all share for classic American Muscle Cars. The 2.5 "Iron Duke," 3.8 Buick V6, and Chevy 305 V8 have sparked endless debates. While the Iron Duke was loved for its fuel efficiency, it struggled in performance. The 3.8 V6, especially the turbo versions, brought some serious power later on, but early reliability issues caused doubts. The 305, while not as exciting as its big-block brothers, served as a reliable base for countless builds. Hope to see you in the next video. Stay legendary, and have a great day...
@MuscleCarMasters68 I've owned cars with both the iron Duke and the 3.8 Buick wonderful wonderful motors the iron Duke was super torque coming into a nice mid-range and of course that's 3.8 it just lasted and lasted the one I had was in an oldsmobile an early model
@MuscleCarMasters68 My current automobile I find Myself in a Ford Escape with a 3.0 V6 mile will Drive I live in Maine and I just love this little beauty I just keep putting Money into it because I Really enjoy Driving it but the motor is super durable and has decent power if you hammer it which I Don't do Too Much because it has a lot of miles on it but just a good motor I'm on the highway when I Drive Down to my night time watchman job I Drive about 60 mile an hour on 95 and I'm getting about 24 miles to the gallon Of course that's using a little mystery oil in the gas
Hey, we appreciate the feedback The Ford Boss 351 engine is often misunderstood, but it’s a true legend in the muscle car world. With its 4-bolt main block, aluminum intake, and solid camshaft, the Boss 351 made a real impact on performance back in the day. It's a prime example of Ford's commitment to pushing the limits of power and precision. Let’s all keep the passion for American muscle alive! We’d love to hear your thoughts, whether you’re a Ford fan or not Don’t forget to comment, share, and subscribe to keep the muscle car spirit roaring Thank you
I worked on a Boss 351 back in the late ’70s. The solid-lifter camshaft and those 4V Cleveland heads made it a beast, but you had to know what you were doing to keep it tuned right. It was a high performance masterpiece, but not for the faint of heart when it came to maintenance...
@@CookeZachery I work on bunch of those and they would have been great but 4000-5100 ain’t much time.
@@CookeZachery I worked a lot swapping out blowups that short cuts in machine work killed. 4000-5100 was a short leash.
@@CookeZachery I built a bunch of circle track engines and the heads were great. Better than the blocks and cranks though. And the Chevy guys were brown nosing track owners too keep them out. By that time, the unibody front had to go. One tap from a Camaro and your setup was gone. I did way better with the FE just to steer with the throttle . They knew that, but the 351c cars got beat on a lot. I was there.
@@Bbbbad724 Alright, folks. Look, the Boss 351 was undeniably a monster when tuned right, but let’s be honest Ford over engineered themselves into a corner. Yeah, I said it. Those 4V Cleveland heads were incredible on paper, but they needed sky-high RPMs to shine. That’s fine for track junkies, but not great for the street. And don’t get me started on the solid-lifter camshaft beautiful for performance but a nightmare for anyone who didn’t live under their hood.
Here’s the kicker: the Boss 351’s biggest downfall wasn’t its design, it was Ford's inability to get the right blocks and machining into the hands of builders who could handle them. Add in those unibody frames that folded like a lawn chair with a hard Camaro tap, and you’ve got a car that lived fast and died young. It was killer but only if you knew how to handle it.
@@CookeZachery That is what I hated about what the track owners allowed, and Ford putting the package together that wasn’t completely scienced out, and the Chevy guys changing the rules rules every weekend. Dick Trickle was really pissed because he never knew what the rules would be when he pulled in. His #99 70 Mustang he ran until it aged out with a Tunnel Port and extra weight just to be able to throw weight in it. The Chevy guys wanted no part of the Cleveland and actually made anyone running at 358 to run a Windsor with 289-302 heads. If you did happen to win they would keep you there in the barn until 2:00AM. Local tracks were awful. You had better be running a smog head. GMPP was selling claimer heads but Ford didn’t get to do that. I a machine apprentice and a lot of dirty dealings in the Chevy camp, claiming someone and selling it right back. Fords didn’t claim but got torn down. Try slipping a 289 OE head in there, they would ban you. AE or SE only no pre 70 Mustang stuff. They ran 483 Dove FEs in Sprint Cars at Sandusky with the Modified drivers shell on Mile tracks in to the 90s . Winston Cup started in the 80s with Yates and Ernie Elliot specing engines finally. But to this day many tracks still make you run a 70s-80s Windsor with 2Vs.
one man showed what the 351-C could really do, and showed us it is the ultimate small block, BOB Gledden !🐍
You're absolutely right
Bob Gledden truly proved what the 351 Cleveland could do, showcasing its raw power and versatility as one of the ultimate small-blocks. His iconic performances left a lasting impact, reminding us all why the Cleveland is a legend in the muscle car world!
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when I was young. My neighbor had a Boss 351 sitting in his barn for decades. It was rusted and neglected, but we spent a year restoring it together. Hearing that Cleveland engine roar to life after so many years was a moment I’ll never forget.
Man, I get the love for the Boss 351, but honestly, I'd take a 351 Windsor over it any day. Clevelands are awesome when dialed in, but they’re a nightmare for street use too much head flow, not enough low-end torque. My old Windsor pulled hard off the line and kept me grinning. Restoring’s cool, but practicality wins for me. Rust buckets? I’ll pass unless they’re Windsor powered....
Yes, so great....what an incredible story! Bringing a Boss 351 back to life is no small feat, it’s a true labor of love. That Cleveland engine is a masterpiece of power and sound, and hearing it roar again must’ve been like music to your ears! Restorations like this not only save iconic cars but also create unforgettable memories. For everyone watching, we’d love to hear about your restoration stories or favorite muscle car memories in the comments. Don’t forget to share this video and subscribe to keep these American muscle legends alive.
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I love this engine. It was put into the detomaso Pantera. It runs great.....
Thank you so much for your comment
You’re absolutely right, the De Tomaso Pantera with its powerful American muscle engine is truly a remarkable machine. The Pantera, with its Ford 351 Cleveland V8, delivers incredible performance, blending Italian design with American engineering. That 351 Cleveland was a game-changer, known for its robust power and versatility. It was an engine that dominated in the '70s and left a lasting impact on the muscle car world.
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I remember seeing a Boss 351 Mustang at a local car show when I was a teenager. The sound of that engine starting up was unforgettable..... 😍😍It’s the car that made me fall in love with muscle cars and it’s still a dream to own one someday
I’ve got a 1971 Boss 351 in my collection, and let me tell you, it’s a head turner every time I take it out. The high-revving Cleveland engine is a joy to drive, and the rarity of the car makes it even more special. so beautiful...
Wow, what an incredible memory
The Boss 351 Mustang truly stands out with its roaring Cleveland V8 and unmatched performance, a masterpiece of muscle car history. That unforgettable sound and raw power have inspired generations of fans. Keep chasing that dream of owning one; it's the kind of car that makes all the hard work worthwhile. To everyone watching, share your own muscle car dreams or stories in the comments below! Don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe to Muscle Car Masters for more classic car passion.
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I have a 351 Cleveland, Arrow block hydraulic roller cam and Trichflow heads producing 600 rwhp
That's an awesome setup you’ve got with that 351 Cleveland, man
With the Arrow block, hydraulic roller cam, and Trickflow heads pushing out 600 rwhp, that’s serious power on tap! The Cleveland's deep breathing potential really shines when you’ve got a combination like that. You’re definitely building a beast under the hood
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Lived on in Australia
Motor used in Ford Falcon GTHO. Car had top speed of 160mph as it didn't use a drag diff ratio
You're absolutely right
The Ford Falcon GTHO Phase III in Australia became legendary, powered by the 351 Cleveland-a motor we proudly associate with American muscle. Its impressive 160mph top speed was thanks to its highway-friendly diff ratio, setting it apart from drag setups. The GTHO remains a testament to Ford's engineering brilliance down under, rivaling many American muscle cars of its era! We'd love to hear more stories about these incredible machines.
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I get the love for the Aussie Falcons, but let’s not get carried away here. Sure, the GTHO Phase III is a legend down under, but calling it a true American muscle car? Nah. It’s a great machine, but it didn’t pack the same raw, untamed attitude that our Mustangs, Chargers, and Camaros had back in the day.
@AdelynDodson The story was about the ford Cleveland Boss 351 motors and that's what's in the GTHO with the shaker air scoop.
It could smoke the American ford cars because it was lighter and had a better suspension set-up. These motors were used in Australia for several more years.
Ford in Australia is the same company as Ford America.
3.25, 3.5, 3.9 rear gear were all available
@@MrJak427 Those Aussie Falcons are cool and all, but let’s keep it real 3.25, 3.5, and 3.9 rear gears are solid, but they don’t scream American muscle to me. Our Mustangs, Camaros, and Challengers were out there laying rubber with big blocks and 4.10s or 4.56s, built for quarter mile dominance.
I had the 4V Cleveland in my 1970 Mach1,,, it was truly a beast!!!
Thank you for sharing, that 4V Cleveland in your '70 Mach 1 was indeed a legend
The 4V heads delivered incredible airflow, making it a powerhouse on the streets and the strip. Paired with the right carburetor and headers, that engine could dominate just about anything in its path. The Mach 1’s aggressive styling and raw power make it one of the most iconic muscle cars ever built.
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@MuscleCarMasters68 my 1970 4v Cleveland came with the higher compression closed chamber design I recammed it,,, installed a larger Holley carb,,, and big tube headers and easily out performed my friends 70 Mach1 that had the 428CJ... I believe it was ford's best designed engine,,, and why DeTomaso chose it for the Pantera...
@@SpeedyPalomino Absolutely, that 4V Cleveland was a beast in the '70 Mach 1
The closed-chamber heads really set it apart, allowing for higher compression and better performance, especially with a larger carb and big tube headers. You’re right, Ford’s design with the Cleveland was on another level - it was truly one of their finest. And DeTomaso knew what they were doing by choosing it for the Pantera, no doubt! Thanks for sharing your experience.
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We had 1970 Torino Dad bought new and optioned the 351C with power brakes. Didnt realize how fast the family hauler could be until i got 2 speeding tickets within 2 weeks of my 16th b day. Got my DL ON my b day and it was the best present ever!!
The 1970 Torino with the 351 Cleveland was a true sleeper-a family hauler with serious power under the hood. That engine, especially with the optional 4-barrel carb, could pump out an impressive 300 horsepower. It’s no wonder it got you into a little trouble so soon after getting your license! Ford really knew how to balance performance and practicality, making the Torino a standout in its lineup.
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I grew up in Australia, and I've built hundreds of Cleveland's. I can tell you 3 things about them; 1) the Cleveland, and the Boss 302, are the most misunderstood performance engines in history. 2) the greatest weakness of the Cleveland is Team Small Port engine builders, you can't build them like Chev's or Windsor's, if you do, you will lack performance, and have engine failures. 3) they go like stink!!!
Thank you for sharing your experience and passion for the Cleveland engine! It’s amazing to hear from someone who’s built hundreds of these legendary powerplants. You’re absolutely right, both the Cleveland and Boss 302 are among the most misunderstood performance engines in history. Their unique design, especially the large-port heads, can trip up builders who treat them like Chevy small-blocks or Windsors. They demand their own blueprint for success, but when built correctly? They’re beasts on the track and street alike...
Cleveland's go like stink for a reason the high-flow heads, proper cam profiles, and tuning unleash untamed performance. We love hearing insights like this from fans around the globe. Muscle car culture transcends borders!
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@MuscleCarMasters68 your comment about cam profiles has more substance than almost anyone realises. Almost all camshafts are ground off Team Small Port knowledge. Great for inline valve, small port volume heads, and absolutely wrong for large port, canted valve heads. They are a very different animal, and require a different thought processes.
@@theshed8802 Thank you for your incredible insight! Cam profiles truly are the secret sauce to unlocking the full potential of Cleveland and Boss 302 engines. These beasts need precision tuning and a camshaft designed for their unique large-port, canted-valve heads. When done right? They deliver unmatched performance on the street and track
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The 351 boss was probably Ford's last real horsepower from the muscle car era
You're spot on about the Boss 351, it truly marked the end of an era for Ford's muscle car dominance in the early '70s. With its solid-lifter cam, high-compression 4-barrel Cleveland engine, and rev-happy 5,800 RPM redline, it was a beast designed for pure performance. Though emissions regulations and insurance rates began to tame horsepower wars, the Boss 351 stood as a final roar of muscle car glory. We’d love to hear your thoughts on other underrated legends
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And let’s not forget the 460 police interceptors they were keeping the muscle alive even when the EPA was breathing down everyone’s neck. Sure, the era started winding down, but Ford wasn’t throwing in the towel just yet. The Boss was great, but it wasn’t the end all be all of Ford muscle.
2:07-Still trying to understand why a flat 6 Corvair engine was relevant to the story.
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I found a 2bbl 351C in a wrecking yard, took it home and rebuilt it. The 2bbl version had wider crankshaft bearing saddles than the 4bbl blocks. Although I didn't have access to a dyno back then, it was easy to tell this motor meant business. I had the cylinders punched .030" over, a cam (I forget the specs), Edelbrock Torquer intake, 750cfm Holley carb, Hooker headers, Accel dual point distributer, all in a '72 coup body Mustang. The C6 trans had a hard time and couldn't maintain the horsepower, and my budget was shot down after the 3rd transmission rebuild. But, boy was it fun to drive...
Note: the 4bbl blocks had 4 bolt mains, whereas the 2bbl blocks had 2 bolt mains. Both were strong blocks to work with.
Wow, Charles!
That 2bbl 351 Cleveland build sounds like a true labor of love-and what a beast you created! The setup you described, with the .030" bore, Torquer intake, and 750cfm Holley, must have been an absolute blast in that '72 Mustang coupe. It's incredible how tough those Cleveland blocks were, whether 2-bolt or 4-bolt mains. Too bad the C6 couldn't handle all that raw power, but hey, the memories are priceless, right?
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The 428 CJ 2x4 aluminum intake with the solid cam from the 425 hp solid cam. The 67-68 Super Snake.
Y’all can keep your 428 CJ setups and Super Snakes. Sure, they were strong, but nothing compared to the Boss 351’s raw precision. Those Cleveland 4V heads flowed like a race car, and the solid cam? Pure adrenaline.
The Cleveland engine with its high revving nature and bulletproof bottom end? That’s what true performance feels like. Plus, the handling on the 71 is leagues ahead of those big-block bruisers.
@@CookeZachery 😹 BWHAHAHA. Did Robert Yates and Ernie Elliot, wait that was the 90s….Different Block…
@@Bbbbad724 LOL! Y’all can keep drooling over your big blocks and 428 CJs. Sure, they packed a punch, but the Boss 351? That Cleveland breathed like a champ straight off the track. Solid lifters, high-revving precision, and torque that could yank a house down, how’s that for muscle? Forget brute force. the Boss was all about finesse and domination. Different block, same story: Cleveland reigns supreme....😆
@ I know that they did, I wish they fit the FE, but they didn’t have the numbers of parts that the cumulative years yields. They did not make them for 25 years like the 352s 390s 410and such and they packed a punch too, we all love Fords, but they should have kept the FE and made Cleveland heads for them. They were sorted and way more cores and they weighed the same.
back in the day there was a mustang called the trojan horse in my city,i beat all comers from tn,ga,nc,sc 351 cleveland.
Wow, what an incredible story
The Trojan Horse Mustang sounds like a real legend in your city. That 351 Cleveland engine was no joke - known for its high-revving nature and impressive power, it truly dominated the streets in its day. Beating challengers from TN, GA, NC, and SC? That’s muscle car royalty right there! The 351 Cleveland's canted valve heads and large ports were ahead of their time, making it a favorite for enthusiasts who knew how to unleash its full potential. It’s stories like yours that keep the spirit of American Muscle alive.
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@@MuscleCarMasters68 as far as i know it never got beat on the street by any chevy mopar or ford!
@@LoneWrencher You're absolutely right - the 351 Cleveland was a beast, and the Trojan Horse Mustang definitely made a statement. Those high-revving capabilities, combined with the raw power of the Cleveland's canted valves and big ports, made it a street king. It wasn't just about muscle; it was about pure performance, outlasting and outpacing everything that dared to challenge it. It's legends like this that fuel the fire of American Muscle.
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Those Cleveland output numbers were underestimated for insurance reasons and considering the 1971 Pantera with 10 to 1 compression was 347 fly wheel horsepower (aprox) the boss had to be more, much more
You're absolutely right,
the Cleveland numbers were often downplayed to navigate insurance premiums, a common strategy back then. The 1971 Pantera's 351C with 10:1 compression pushed around 347 horsepower, and the Boss 351 likely exceeded that with its higher-performance cam and better heads. Ford knew how to pack hidden punch into their engines! What are your thoughts on the Boss Mustang's real-world dominance? Share your insights
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Pantera had that impressive 10:1 compression and hit around 347 hp, but let’s not forget it had better tuning and a European focus. The Boss 351, as legendary as it is, was rated honestly for its time 330hp net translates to a lot less than some folks dream up. Insurance dodging?
@ in the late 60s and early 70s insurance companies would partly base your insurance cost on the horsepower ratings of the car so car companies would under rate their motors as an incentive to get people into the cars
@ if you ever want to really question the European focus look up the rear brake pads on a 1971 Pantera look up the whole calliper it will cause panic. I thought the fox body rear drums were bad but the Pantera, that terrifies me the front brakes are good the back brakes are scary. I think you had two choices, sliding and nothing and the discs are unvented three-quarter (roughly) inch plate. Get those suckers hot and you might as well go for a beer waiting for them to cool down. They made some interesting choices on that car but in 1981 that was the highest tested (cannot remember what mag) of all the European super cars at the time which isn’t really saying much but it’s still interesting considering Ferrari Porsche and Lamborghini were in the game
@@600wheel You're spot on about the insurance game in the late '60s and early '70s, car companies played it smart by underrating horsepower to keep premiums manageable. The Pantera's 351 Cleveland is a beast, with its 10:1 compression delivering underrated performance. And you're right about those brakes! The unvented rear discs were a wild choice overheat them, and you're in for a long cool-down. The Pantera's blend of American power and Italian design is fascinating, especially when it outshined the Euro supercars of the early '80s in some tests.
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The heads have canted 2.19 inch intake valves, same as L78 head on Chevy 396 & 427!
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I never even got to drive one working at a dealer
Man, working at a dealership and not getting to drive a Boss 351 must’ve been a heartbreaker
That engine was a beast Ford packed it with high-compression Cleveland heads, a solid-lifter cam, and a massive 750 CFM carb, pushing 330 horses on paper (but we know it was likely more). It’s one of those engines that defined raw, unfiltered American muscle, capable of tearing up the quarter-mile with ease. The sound alone is unforgettable a symphony of power and precision.
If you ever get a chance to hear or even feel one in action, trust me, it’s an experience you won’t forget.
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Fords greatest engine?? The Coyote sure making some big moves in that direction but a Clevor is my favourite even though it doesn’t really count but a Cleveland top end on a Windsor bottom end is a thing of mechanical beauty or just take the 351 Cleveland and fix the oiling problem (easy) and I am a happy guy. All that said I wouldn’t trade my supercharged 331 Windsor for nothin. 600 wheel and I haven’t had to open the motor (head gaskets but not because they blew I just wanted Cometics and had to wait) since I built it 16 years ago and I drive the shit out of her
Wow, what a beast you’ve got there with that supercharged 331 Windsor
600 wheel horsepower and 16 years of hard driving, now that’s a testament to solid engineering and passionate wrench work! The Clevor setup is legendary for a reason, blending the best of Cleveland’s high-flow heads with Windsor’s reliability. Fixing the Cleveland oiling issues is indeed an easy win for massive potential.
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Haha, love the passion, but I gotta say, the Boss 351 Cleveland deserves its own crown. The Clevor is cool, no doubt, but piecing it together feels like admitting Ford didn’t get it right from the start. A well-built Cleveland oiling mods and all is a brute straight out of the box. Sure, your supercharged 331 Windsor is badass, but I’ll take the raw, naturally aspirated grunt of a Boss 351 any day.
@ the oiling system on the Windsor is what brings me back to her. I know you can borrowed the lifter bored and put restricting bushings in but I still just can’t get away from the fact the Windsor has oiling solved! But you’re right the heads isn’t the nightmare it’s getting the intake for the cleaver that just takes your bank account and throws a fck into it
@ …… you are right when someone wants to argue Ford against anything I bring up the Cleveland. Those canted valves on a small block revving monster usually end the conversation.
@@600wheel that an incredible insight into the Windsor’s oiling system. Ford nailed it there, and it's hard to beat that reliability. The Clevor setup, while a bank-breaker, proves itself every time by marrying Cleveland’s canted-valve magic with Windsor’s practicality. Those canted valves? A total game-changer! That’s why the Cleveland dominates bench-racing debates high-revving, high-flow, small-block monsters that just don’t quit.
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427 Cammer, then the 289.
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The 427 Cammer, a legendary engine, set records with its all-aluminum block, lightweight design, and mind-blowing horsepower. It's often considered the pinnacle of Ford performance in the 1960s, dominating both on the street and the track. Then, there's the 289 HiPo-Shelby’s favorite! It’s known for its high-revving nature and efficiency, laying down the foundation for many legendary muscle cars, like the GT350. Both engines are icons in the world of American Muscle
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Many turn the 289's into strokers due their thick cylinder walls
@@larrykimball6270 @larrykimball6270, The 289's thick cylinder walls make it an ideal candidate for stroker builds, allowing for increased displacement and more power. This flexibility has made it a favorite among enthusiasts looking to push the limits of performance while keeping that classic 289 charm. The 427 Cammer and the 289 HiPo are both amazing in their own right, setting the standard for muscle car engineering. Thanks for your input-always great to hear from fellow muscle car fans!
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Great Engine for making power. Would run with or beat big-block powered cars. Not as good as the Windsor for reliability over time. That Autolite 4300D carburetor was problematic.
big power doesn’t mean perfect. Sure, it could hang with big blocks, but let’s be real: those solid lifters and high-rev nature meant constant tuning and babysitting to keep it running top-notch. And that Autolite 4300D carb?
Thank you for your awesome comment
The Boss 351 truly was a beast when it came to raw power running with or even beating big-blocks in its heyday was no small feat! You’re spot on about its competition heritage, but yes, the Windsor edges it out for long-term reliability. That Autolite 4300D carburetor definitely had its quirks, especially with tuning at high RPMs, but when dialed in, it helped deliver some serious performance. The Boss 351’s solid lifter cam and free-breathing heads made it a force to reckon with on the streets and track alike
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@AilaniMadden Yes, The Boss 351 was truly something special raw power packed into a high-revving small-block that could run with the best big-blocks of its time.
You nailed it: those solid lifters and Autolite 4300D carb were a double-edged sword. They required finesse to keep them performing at their peak, but when tuned right, they unleashed serious horsepower. The Boss 351’s free-breathing heads and aggressive cam profile made it a street and strip icon, but it wasn’t for the faint of heart this was a true driver’s car, built for those who loved to tinker and push limits.
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I'm not an expert on either the Cleveland or the Chevy LT1, but in 1971 it looks like they put out the same HP. The difference is that the Chevy had a better oiling system, and it also looks lighter. Maybe someone can chime in here with some facts? Anyway, they're both great engines, as are the Windsors.
@panchorodriguez7246 Thanks for your awesome comment
Yes...both the Cleveland and the Chevy LT1 were rated at around 275-330 HP in 1971, depending on the setup. The LT1 did have a more efficient oiling system, and being a small block, it was definitely lighter, giving it an edge for high-rev applications. The Cleveland, on the other hand, had those legendary 4V heads for incredible breathing at higher RPMs, making it a beast on the track. And hey, let’s not forget the Windsor-another solid Ford icon
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@@MuscleCarMasters68 My favorite is definitely the small block Chevy. But, really, all the old iron makes me happy.
@@panchorodriguez7246 Thanks so much for your awesome input
You're right, the small block Chevy is a true legend in the muscle car world, and that old iron really does have a special place in every car enthusiast’s heart. It’s amazing how each engine, like the LT1 or the Cleveland, brings its own unique characteristics to the table. Whether it's the Chevy’s rev-happy small block or the Ford’s powerful breathing 4V heads, they both make those old cars something special.
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Everyone talks shit about the 429scj mustang. The heads are bad,yada,yada. Jealous because they cant afford one 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes, most of the criticism about the 429 SCJ comes from people who’ve never even seen one, let alone driven it! This beast was built for pure performance-factory-rated at 375 hp, but we all know that number was a little “conservative.” The staggered valve heads? Sure, they’re unique, but in the hands of the right tuner, they unlock serious power. And let’s not forget the Drag Pack option with the oil cooler and 4.30 gears-it made this Mustang an absolute quarter-mile monster.
So yeah, maybe some folks talk trash, but it’s likely because they’re standing on the sidelines. True American Muscle fans respect what the 429 SCJ brings to the table.
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The early 327's were making 375 hp in the vettes and chevy II.
Hey @paratrooperlane7022, you’re absolutely right
The early 327s were absolute powerhouses, especially in the Corvettes and Chevy II, where they were cranking out 375 horsepower. That early small-block V8 is still considered one of the best examples of engineering in American muscle history. It's hard to beat the raw sound and power they delivered on the streets and tracks. Thank you for sharing that! Let’s keep the discussion going tell us your thoughts and experiences with these iconic engines
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427, 429, Scammer, and this one
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The 427, 429, and Boss 351 engines truly represent Ford’s muscle car dominance, each legendary in its own right. The 429 Boss was built for power and speed, dominating NASCAR, while the 427’s history in drag racing and Le Mans makes it iconic. The Boss 351 combined raw performance with street reliability, making it a fan favorite. Let’s hear more from you all-what’s your favorite Ford engine and why? Drop a comment, share this video, and subscribe to American Muscle Cars! Hope to see you in the next video.
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Sure, the big boys like the 427 and 429 ruled the drag strips, but the Boss 351 was lighter, revved faster, and gave Mustangs the agility they needed to dominate.
It's just too bad that they didn't make the valve seats in the engine capable of running regular unlanded fuel. That was one of the downfalls of the engine, and it would cause a lot of issues. Secondly the 351 Cleveland boss was not anything that's special. No different than the four barrel, carb and heads just made it a higher revving, higher, powered less streetable engine and what a lot of people don't realize is that originally the 302 boss was a three fifty one cleveland 4 barrel head on a 302 which made it a high river, but it didn't make it a very good performance engine on the streets. This is why I don't like these channels because they don't really know what they're talking about.A real enthusiast would know that 302 351w was a low revving v8 vs 351c that made big blocks looked small..
Thank you for your detailed comment, @Brutalford
It’s great to see such passion and knowledge about these iconic engines. You’re absolutely right about the challenges with valve seats and unleaded fuel-it’s a point that’s often overlooked but crucial for understanding the evolution of these engines. The distinction you mentioned between the 351 Cleveland Boss and the standard four-barrel Cleveland is valid, as the Boss variants were engineered more for high-performance applications, often at the expense of everyday drivability.
We appreciate your insights on the 302 Boss origins with the Cleveland heads; it's a fascinating piece of automotive history that highlights Ford’s experimental engineering during the muscle car era. Your perspective adds depth to the conversation
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Someone needs to check your math- 4.10 gears and 147mph do not coexist, figure it again
You’re absolutely right to point out the math, and it’s always worth a double-check
With 4.10 gears, hitting 147 mph would require a high-revving setup, likely exceeding the factory Boss 351 Cleveland’s 6,000 RPM limit unless paired with an overdrive or custom gearing. The Boss 351 was built for power off the line, not top-speed runs, with its 330hp beast of an engine and 11.0:1 compression ratio dominating the quarter-mile instead. What do you think about these specs? Let us know in the comments, share your knowledge, and subscribe to dive deeper into American Muscle Cars
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Richard Petty never used the 351 Cleveland he didn't even drive a Ford in 1970s!!!
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Richard Petty didn't use the 351 Cleveland, nor did he drive a Ford in the 1970s. Petty was famously behind the wheel of Plymouth and Dodge cars during that era, making history with models like the Plymouth Superbird and Dodge Charger. These beasts were icons of NASCAR and true muscle car legends! Thanks for pointing that out! What’s your favorite Petty ride or race memory? Let us know in the comments! And remember to share, like, and subscribe for more muscle car history.
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390 SOHC or the 427 SOHC.
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The Ford 427 SOHC, also known as the 'Cammer,' was a beast, designed to dominate NASCAR with its single overhead cam design and unmatched power. The Boss 351, though smaller, was a high-revving legend with Cleveland heads and a solid-lifter cam for street and strip supremacy. Each engine had its own magic-raw power versus race-bred precision. What’s your favorite Ford powerhouse? Let us know in the comments
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Sure, the SOHC engines were legendary in drag racing, but they were temperamental and priced out of reach for the average muscle car fan. The Boss 351, with its solid lifters, free-breathing heads, and high-revving nature, was a beast right off the showroom floor. Plus, it didn’t need the constant tuning the 427 demanded.
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The Ford Boss 351 engine is a true gem in the muscle car world. With its powerful 351 cubic-inch V8, it was engineered for high performance, particularly during the early '70s. It boasted 330 horsepower, which was impressive for its time, and its aluminum intake manifold helped it breathe efficiently. The engine's solid construction and reliable performance made it a standout in both street and track settings.
The Boss 351 also had a distinctive high-rise intake manifold, paired with a four-barrel carburetor, which helped it achieve great torque at mid-range RPMs. Despite its short production run, it has earned a legendary status among muscle car enthusiasts.
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And Pontiac kept the muscle car going much longer than ford and spanked them on the street after 1970 I was there
The Boss 351 was still laying waste to Pontiacs in the early 70s. That Cleveland 4v head design and 11:1 compression were untouchable when tuned right. I worked on one myself, and yeah, it needed finesse, but it delivered every ounce of that 330 hp when dialed in.
Ford kept muscle alive with raw performance and engineering like no other. After 1970, it wasn’t all about brute power; the Boss 351 proved finesse and high-revving dominance could still rule the streets.
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Pontiac indeed carried the muscle car torch into the '70s, and their dominance on the street remains legendary. That said, many fans still argue the Boss 351 was the king of its time, with unmatched performance and engineering for 1971. Perhaps it’s time for all our viewers to chime in what do you think truly defines a street king after 1970? Share your thoughts below, subscribe for more muscle car history, and let’s keep this debate roaring
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Until a 429scj showed up.
@@AilaniMadden while the Boss 351 was impressive, let’s not overlook the Pontiac 455 HO. Sure, the Cleveland heads were a masterpiece, but Pontiac wasn’t just sitting around...The 455 HO brought torque for days, and on the street, torque rules. The Boss might’ve been a rev-happy screamer, but Pontiacs were all about delivering power down low where it counts.
What is a hardened valve gear??😂
Hardened valve gear? Great question
In engines like the Ford Boss 351, ‘hardened valve gear’ refers to parts-like valve seats and valve stems-designed to handle high-performance stress and modern unleaded fuels. Back in the day, leaded fuel helped lubricate the valve seats, but when unleaded fuel came along, engines needed tougher materials to prevent wear. The Boss 351 was ahead of its time, sporting durable components that let it scream to 6,000 RPM and beyond, all while staying reliable. That’s part of why it’s still a legend today.
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@ I know exactly what you were saying but the way you said it made it sound funny. Thanx for the effort put into teaching. If you want to answer a question is this channel an AI channel? Does AI do all the video and voice work as well as answer the comments??
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JUNK ALL CLEVELAND MOTORS I OWNED WERE CRAP / WINDSOR BETTER - 70 TORINO GT HA D JUNK MOTOR WITH HEAD PROBLEMS / ALSO A 400 MOTOR IN A 75 WAS CHIT / SORRY I OWNED THIS CRAP AT ONE TIME == AVOID IT
Thanks for sharing your experience
It’s clear you've had some tough times with the Cleveland motors, and I really appreciate your perspective. The Cleveland 351, especially the earlier versions, did have some head gasket and overheating issues that turned some people away. However, for others, the Cleveland was still a high-performance engine option, especially with its 4V heads that delivered impressive power when tuned right.
On the other hand, the Windsor 351, like the one in your 70 Torino GT, was known for being a bit more reliable overall, which is why so many Ford enthusiasts prefer it for its durability and ease of modification. But, as you mentioned, every engine has its strengths and weaknesses, and it’s important to find what works best for your needs.
I’d love to hear more thoughts from everyone
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Just a pushrod engine
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While the Ford Boss 351 may seem like just another pushrod engine, it's much more than that. With its powerful 351 Cleveland block, solid performance, and unique styling, it made a lasting impact on the muscle car scene. The Boss 351 was all about high-revving performance, with a redesigned intake manifold and improved exhaust system, making it a true powerhouse for enthusiasts. We appreciate your input
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When I was in high school I had a 69 Dodge RT charger 440 tripower Force beam there was an older person who had been out of school 44 or 5 years and he ran around with a 351 Cleveland in a boss Mustang I mopped up the town with everybody except this guy I really thought it was gonna be an easy race and it wasn't it was even through the first 2 gears and it wasn't till I got to the top end of third year that I actually started to pull away you just can't beat cubic inches
Wow, what an incredible story! A ‘69 Dodge Charger R/T with a 440 Six Pack going head-to-head with a Boss Mustang running a 351 Cleveland? That’s muscle car heaven right there! The Charger’s sheer cubic inches would have been hard to beat, especially on the top end, but the Boss 351 Cleveland wasn’t about to make it easy with its high-revving power and insane top-end potential. That race must’ve been a sight to see and you proved the old saying true: There’s no replacement for displacement.
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@MuscleCarMasters68 Thanks for the comment I'm 58 now and I was 17 at the time this happened the tripower didn't come standard on that car the person I bought it from had put it on it had A General dynamics cam of 284 duration 484 lift but yeah it was a good race it's hard to believe so many years have come and gone since then It's blessed to catch the muscle car era when I did I was 17 years old and that very next autumn I joined the Army things are sure different now aren't they once again thanks for the response
@@NathanStickney-xv6dy Thanks for your comment
Disagreements like this fuel the passion we all share for classic American Muscle Cars. The 2.5 "Iron Duke," 3.8 Buick V6, and Chevy 305 V8 have sparked endless debates. While the Iron Duke was loved for its fuel efficiency, it struggled in performance. The 3.8 V6, especially the turbo versions, brought some serious power later on, but early reliability issues caused doubts. The 305, while not as exciting as its big-block brothers, served as a reliable base for countless builds.
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@MuscleCarMasters68 I've owned cars with both the iron Duke and the 3.8 Buick wonderful wonderful motors the iron Duke was super torque coming into a nice mid-range and of course that's 3.8 it just lasted and lasted the one I had was in an oldsmobile an early model
@MuscleCarMasters68 My current automobile I find Myself in a Ford Escape with a 3.0 V6 mile will Drive I live in Maine and I just love this little beauty I just keep putting Money into it because I Really enjoy Driving it but the motor is super durable and has decent power if you hammer it which I Don't do Too Much because it has a lot of miles on it but just a good motor I'm on the highway when I Drive Down to my night time watchman job I Drive about 60 mile an hour on 95 and I'm getting about 24 miles to the gallon Of course that's using a little mystery oil in the gas
Lol what junk typical ford junk 😂😂😂
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