Is this the Best 2 stroke MX Race Ever? CR500 BEATS 450 Four Strokes!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- This is one for all the old school Two Stroke Motocross fans. Watch a CR500 beat modern 450 four strokes! #CR500 #twostrokemotocross
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2020 has been a crazy year for so many reasons. Fortunately one of those crazy moments was a good one for dirt bike lovers. Neville Bradshaw has never been shy of taking on a tough two wheel challenge, and this season was no exception. He turned down a paid ride in 2020 to race his own CR 500 in a national championship. Nev put a lot of hours on the CR500 over the winter and fell in love with it so much so that he was sure it could still be competitive in a modern championship race. Nev's realistic expectation was to be in the top ten, but deep down he was hungry for a win. We took our cameras and documented Nev's endeavours in our TH-cam series "For The Love of 2 Strokes". The series has gone down a storm online and we have had so many requests to see the full extended, uncut race where Nev made the impossible a reality, so sit down, strap yourself in and witness Nev and his CR500 do something truly special.
Thanks for the support and Merry Christmas!
Max
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if you knew how a two stroke makes boost you would not say it is impossible. That what really is impossible is that a four stroke will never make the same horsepower as the same size two stroke as that is totally impossible. The proof for this is the fact that four strokes suck air at a constant rate of 14.7 pounds per square inch at sea level. After that Mazurek pressure pressurize is the crankcase on a 2-stroke the piston on his way down compresses that mixture above atmospheric pressure. that is called boost as two strokes are internally supercharged 4 Strokes will never ever be able to do that. and this is not an opinion this is not debatable my instructors name was pop Yoshimura who invented the two-cycle engine for Honda. and no one in the last 10 to 20 years has ever figure it out how high to cycle actually works except for The world's greatest tuner that there ever was mr. Yoshimura my instructor
Another top quality video, a 22 year old machine beating modern 4 strokes, just goes to show how good these bikes still are in a skilled riders hands. Merry Xmas .
Thanks Kevin. Have a good Xmas
Not really a fair comparesion doe imo. But fun that it still can hang :P
Bigger cc and 2 stroke(Imagine how big of a 4 stroke you would want to comapre to if you follow the normal formula :D)
Would be fun to see a modern 500+cc 2 stroke rip around.
BOOSH! Every veteren CR500 rider jumped off the Couch - thats a really hard won race against that young talent on fast 4ts. BRILLIANT video lads☝️👍
Thanks for watching dude! So glad you enjoyed the video as much as i enjoyed making it. Merry Christmas dude
If I was still in my 20s the CR500 or KX500 would be my number ride today. Great bikes.
Absolutely epic!,testament to how good the cr500 still even today and a even bigger testament to Nev being able to wrangle one around at that pace,loved every second of it well done!
50,000 views and only 800 likes, come on guys this video deserves a thumbs up!
Too many proud 4 Stroke viewers must have watched this one ! 😁 Definitely got a like from me , what an awesome ride on a handful of a machine . 👍
I jumped the sofa when the CR500R passed to lead the pack😂💪🏻
It's so crazy to see!! Modern 450s are quicker than 500cc 2 strokes so this was a nice surprise
@@StrykerV8 is a lot harder to ride a 500
@@guillermosantiago3334 agreed, their power band is much more narrow. Modern 450s make power everywhere.
Such a rad moment! Glad you enjoyed watching dude
Holy tom cruise
It was at 24:12 that I realised that I had just broke the world record for longest breath-hold.
Haha Thanks for watching dude! Hope you got your breath back! ;-D Merry Christmas
Dude how? I literally was holding my breath to and i dont even know why.
Neville must be in incredible shape! The combination of the explosive power of the 500 and rough track conditions will wear out a mortal man in no time. Congratulations on a spectacular ride and a thrilling win!!
The dude is a machine! Thanks for watching Dennis. Merry Christmas!
@@999lazer
And Merry Christmas to you and Neville 🎄!!!
Awesome video Max and Nev. How he can beat those young guys on modern bikes, when on the 500 vibration monster whilst in his 30s is beyond me !!
Legend.
Have a great Christmas chaps.
💨💨
Merry Christmas Jamie, have a good one dude!
When men were men and bikes were bikes.
Nev is in his FORTIES. I remember when he was an up and coming 250cc GP rider.
The guy is the shizznit💪🏻😎🙌🏽😎
Conditioning and wisdom cancel out age.
I've already seen this race, but I was wringing my fingers and tensing up everytime Nev got on the arse of the bike in front. The gift from Max and Nev that keeps on giving. Cheers fellahs. Enjoy the winter solstice festivities. I'm soooo looking forward to your endevours next year!
Thanks for the support!
Excellent throttle management on that beast. Makes me regret selling my 01 500 recently but still have a kx500. 😁😁
Great drive from Neville and a outstanding video, thanks guys, was fun to watch!
Thanks so much for watching the video and your comment. Have a good Xmas.
I think Bradshaw's freshness at the winners speech after riding that Brahma Bull for 20 minutes impressed me more than the bike.
Thanks for watching, he's such a down to earth guy and a pleasure to work with and make these films for you guys
Holy fuck I was on the seat of my chair the entire time great commentary. Fuck yeah fuck yeah man badass. Love it wheeww I felt like I was racing myself haha 😂
Hell Yeah! Glad you enjoyed watching Mak, thanks for the support dude!
Great video,, super fun to watch! Great commentary, love the 2t videos! Have a 97 cr500, 03cr250 and 2 Trx250r, 363 and 350cc
Thanks for watching Nathan - a nice collection of bikes too!
I'd seen this before when you first put it on,watched the uncut version, even tho I knew the result,it still made my heart rate go up,its just a 2stroke thing I guess,😉👌🏻great vid max,👍🏻
I used to race a 2004 km 500 in the Montana off road series. The Honda and Kawasakis were hell of a bike
To control the cr 500 is impressive, let alone winning the race. That’s a awesome trained rider for sure.
A South African from birth, proud of a fellow countryman ! Awesome ride!!!!
I love how the Cr500 closes gaps with the rip of a throttle.
How he reeled in that kxf was a damn beast, those kwakas are no slouch.
Sure was. Thanks for watching Ian
Congratulations Neville, that was a tough track and you hung in there man, I noticed you've been slower exiting corners but those last 5 laps you were getting faster and smoother.
We'll done, awesome video, I miss racing so much. Bring back the 2T. 👏👏👏LEGEND 😁💪👍🍻🥃
Thanks for watching Scott, Have a great Xmas
@@999lazer you're welcome mate, Merry Christmas to you both and your families. 🌲☃️👍😊
Legend says: he needs to change hes tyres every race
Considering that bike’s design dates back to 1988, and was dated by1998 standards due to lack of R&D on 500s, the win is that much more impressive!
'89 was the last year of signifigant design change for the 500. Big changes from '88.
I remember the very 1st bike I ever tried to ride . It was a CR500, and it taught me me a certain type of respect for a motorcycle. It stood up, my hand hand got stuck and if it wasn't for jumping out of ditch I have no ideas about what would have happened to me and that bike. When it jumped I was able to turn the throttle loose. I'm not surprised though that it can still compete. A CR500 is stupid powerful dirtbike.
never gets old watching this
Pleasure to watch neville ridding especially on a 500 smoker 👍👍👍👍
Thanks for watching. Have a good xmas!
Pleasure
You too enjoy 👍👍 hopefully be racing next
I dont understand why people say they cant believe the 500 do so well with 450s. The 500 2 stroke has twice the horsepower. They call them the widow maker when i live. Once you have a 500 you dont want any less
@@Tv-nv7st i dont see how those numbers are right i just looked up all the numbers and the cr250 59 hp and the cr500 60hp one horsepower different but the 450s race with the 250 2 strokes and the 500 supposedly only had 60 hp something doesnt add up
I understand all that ive been on a dirtbike since 1976 lol started on a yz50
Ill say this my 500 kicks my wr450 ( with yzf ignition and piped and airbox opened up) kicks its ass all day lol i dont ride the yamaha much
Well i have a yzf 426 as well and it whips that one too and it whoops ass on my buddies crf 450 too. Only another 500 is close. I luv the 500 power. Lol
@@Tv-nv7st its all about the exhaust polution why two strokes are being removed not because of 450s. The california emmision controls dont just affect californians. All bikes from the us and canada follow these strict standards and when i bought the new wr 450 there was all kinds of emmision shit on that that needed to be removed before the bike made any power and the spark arrester needed to be removed as well as a throttle stop screw ( more like a bolt) lol
16:15 Even the corner worker was stoked! Brraapp! 🤙 Thanks for posting. Good stuff.
Thanks for watching Gray! Have you seen the full 4 episode series following Nev's story?
@@999lazer No, but I’ll look into it. Thanks.
That really was an awesome race,there isn't a sport in the world that Even comes close to the talent of a top notch motocross racer....
Yesssss! I use to race the CR500 too, also years after it was cool to.
Wow heart in mouth kinda racing, loved it! 👍🏼🏁
CR500’s are legendary machines! 👍
What a legend and great video footage..top work and the best bikes two strokes rules ok.
Thanks for watching
Why does it sound like he's racing against a bunch of Harleys?
Brrrcrap
Congrats Neville!
Thanks for watching Scott!
@@999lazer I recently lost my right lower leg and am unable to ride my CR500 anymore. I truly enjoy watching you kick ass on that thing! Merry Christmas Neville!
Big Bore 2 stroke conquered!! Great race Neville. 2 strokes for life!!
Thanks for watching Brian. Have a great Xmas
@@999lazer you too Merry Xmas
Always great!, And the comments on race too!
Thanks Ivan, Have a great Xmas
Love your vids and announcement thank you.
Thanks so much. Really appreciate your comment
Congratulations brotha great ride!!
Thanks for watching dude!
Truly Awesome!!!
Miss my 93
The 500 engines made the horsepower but the suspension tech was still being improved . Not hard to put some modern forks on a 500.
The shock could use some help too. They came with springs too light for anyone over 160lbs. I got my fork & shock both revalved with the Race Tech Gold Valve system, and am running the heaviest available springs. Much, much better than stock, but something like an Öhlins suspension on both ends would be as good as a steel frame could get.
Up until a few years ago you could buy a brand new modern aluminium frame CR500 or brand new kx500 from service Honda.
Back In 2001, when _team Chevy Trucks Kawasaki_ was building the KX250 Ricky Carmichael needed to battle indisputable Supercross King Jeremy McGrath, they shortened the Swingarm so the seat wouldn’t knock him off the foot pegs, they set the Kayaba Suspension Squatting *WAY* low in the back & real high in the front & they were running some _works SR parts_ from Japan, one of which being a _TPS carburetor_ with a programmable CDI, & his mechanic had the ability to map the carburetor & put the power right where Ricky wanted it… my point being, if someone wanted to, there’s stuff that does exist & is possible to build a 2-Stroke which would put the thumpers back into their place…trails…but
_[shaking head no]_ am I the only one who sees what’s coming?!?
Just the way Doug Henry ushered in the 4-Stroke Revolution back in 1997 on the prototype _YZM400F_ it’s about to happen again with Electric bikes with no gears, no fuel, no oil, no air filters, just a direct-drive monster with more torque, some batteries weighing probably more than the internal combustion engine (except the guys in the factory team will have theirs modded to run for two 9v batteries)
Awesome work as usual max!!!! Great job Nev!!!!
its not about the bike,its about the rider (: i ride yz85
100% dude! Hope you're enjoyed that Yam, they are sweet look bikes and handle so well. I have a YZ125. Thanks for watching dude
That CR 500 probably never made it out of 2nd gear LoL
Amazing win 💪
Thanks for watching dude! Filming this was the highlight of my year for sure
Throw that 500 2-stroke engine into a modenr chassis and say ADIOS amigos
Brapp Lives Matter
😁😁😁
Just awesome 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks for watching. Have a great Xmas buddy
So happy to have watched this.....
Awesome race.
This shouldn't be a big suprise considering the CR 500 is about the same weight, produces about the same horsepower and ALOT more to torque. I can only imagine where 2 stroke tech would be if the big companies kept developing it for the last 20 years. Hell....The 2 stroke, twin cylinder 500cc Moto GP bikes from the early 2000's were pumping out an honest 200 hp.
That dude can ride!
Wow my hero👏👏👏
Yes of course it is.
Thanks for watching Dennis. Have a great Xmas
Amazing, he sure can ride a 5 banger
I didnt catch how old or what bike hes riding?
Hahahaha I believe he might be riding a 22-year-old Big Red CR500...I'm not sure though lol
Its in the title..somewhere!
sssshhh....don’t state the obvious and let the secret out! LoL
Btw...Neville Bradshaw is as talented, well trained, and well prepared a rider as ever has been. Skills, training, and preparation! The CR500 obviously well prepped also. Simply stunning on all aspects. Filming, narration, bike prep, everything....PROFESSIONAL!
Honda sure had those bikes dialed in perfect superb rider and legendary machine.
so true, thanks for watching
@@999lazer it was pop Yoshimura who dialed in all the two strokes for honda and pop Yoshimura trained all of us Honda technicians how a two-cycle engine operates and why it makes boost what a 4 stroke can only suck ... and no one on TH-cam has a clue how a two stroke engine makes boost
Awesome footage max and great narration 👍👍
Thanks for the support Tommy mate, merry Christmas dude
@@999lazer same to you max👍👍hope next year is better than this one
Fantastic--wyoming
The AMA, and FIM messed up big time when they changed rules to allow 4 strikes double the displacement advantage. Modern 4t are basically 1 cylinder of a F1 car. 😳😧
Change the rules back to be fair, displacement vs displacement no matter how many strokes.
450F vs 450 2T, 250F vs 250 2T.
When the great Roger DeCoster says "you have to be more talented to race a two stroke" and legendary NESC and former Yamaha and KTM factory rider John Junkyard Dowd says "We are Pros, we race what we get paid to race but yes, most guys would rather race two strokes" that's more than enough to know 4T was a marketing scheme to COST you more money when it came time for repairs.
Neville Bradshaw is one of the best 2 stroke riders in the world...100%
I used to watch him and learn from him back in 2000's.
Modern 450s are much quicker than 500cc 2 strokes. If they weren't, this result wouldn't be surprising or impressive. Nice riding on the 500, you're a much better rider than they are.
100% dude... i've ridden that bike Nev is racing. The thing is a beast, i couldn't ride anywhere near as fast as i could a modern 450. Thanks for watching!
Very cool!
top man , top bike , top vid
BRADSHAW AKA THE BOSS
He's a true 2 stroke hero for sure! Thanks for watching dude
That looks very hard to do.
I used to have one , it was a scary bike
they sure are. thanks for watching
GO ON MY SON
Could anyone tell me what the rider is called and how old the bike is? Didn’t manage to catch it in the video
James Stewart could have taken them on a KX100.
The irony is the 2 stroke actually takes more skill to ride. It's way easier to ride a 4 stroke.
Look at the dakar bikes (900 + cc 4 strokes) that used to compete against done up 500s. So the 450s now have half the power of the 500
Neville Bradshaw - Quality Rider
If took a shot of whiskey everytime you said 22 year old I would have alcohol poisoning jeez
Hahaha There are several drinking games we could play in this one lol Thanks for watching Brian
What is the exact year of this CR500
1998
Please dont wear that hat like that.no trendy flat bills for bradshaws..you did fn amazing!!!on an old bike keepin up with new class young comin ups..i give alotta props for sure!!!
Thanks for watching Ben
Perhaps for now, but you're still going to be racing for a while so only the future will tell haha.
Thanks for watching. Have a good xmas
What class is he racing in here?
This s the British AMCA MX1 class...so 450 class
Remember when Doug Henry was the only thumper on the starting gate?
Doug Henry literally smoke the competition with blue oil smoke as it took a brand new engine for every Moto. He wanted to go so nobody else can see where they were going I was there and seen the whole thing and it's pathetic
Good ol CR500's, best Mottocross bike ever made 👍
Hell yeah dude, they are legendary! Thanks for watching Todd
Two strokes still rule the high end snowmobiler world all electric start fuel injected and even some turbos!!
Never Bad!! 😃
Cant stop watching this vid, how does Nev consistently hit those lines on a clay track with a 22 yr old bike, despite the braking issues, thats some feat. better get back to Zoom.
Haiden Deegan smoked his dad in a race on his 125. A 125 smoked a 450 because of the rider.
a two stroke 125 will eat any four stroke 450 or bigger as all two strokes make internal boost that is ever increasing ..four strokes ate limited by the atmospheric pressure that study at 14.7 at sea level and cannot go any higher as two strokes are internally supercharged making boost that goes much higher than atmosphere constantly making more horsepower. It was pop Yoshimura who built the first two stroke engine for Honda and race it to a championship in 1971 1970 2 in Japan as it was a 125cc single-cylinder two-stroke my faster than any four stroke of the day. But then you have to know something about engines which you know nothing at all
2-Stroke for ever ♥️ ♥️ ♥️♥️ ♥️ ♥️
2 Strokes for life! Thanks for watching dude
I agree love 2 strokes
Honda cr 500 was a head of it's time wish they would do it again. And build a 2 stroke for a snowmobile think it would be awesome 👌
I have raised snowmobiles and dirt bikes all my life. And arctic cat snowmobile dealer and at 61 years old love 2 strokes
@@tonynewnam2809 I ride an MX and have a 2-stroke Suzuki RM 250 built in 1990. It's just great with her on the track.
Bought the kit,didnt need the Ball toner or ball perfume lol,
But, if you can sort out the handling, AND know how to race a big 500 2 stroke, you'll win most races. 60hp and 48 ft/lb. Vs 53hp and 35ft/lb. Simple. The 450.fart machines replaced 250s, not 500s.
CR500s had 55hp. Modern 450s make 60+. Google it.
@@StrykerV8 your arguing over 2hp? Educate yourself. 4 strokes will never be more powerful than the same displacement 2 strokes. KX500 ~65hp
@@marksommerville5857 a stock cr500 made 55hp, this is documented knowledge. A 19+ CRF450 makes at least 61hp, possibly upwards of 63. Again, this is documented. The CR500 COULD HAVE made more power, but it didn't. Modern 450s are quicker and faster. I'm sorry.
@@StrykerV8 of course modern 450s are faster. You keep stating the obvious. You clearly don't understand, (you just watched a bloody video showing EXACTLY what I'm talking about), As I said, educate yourself then you don't.need to search for everything.
@@StrykerV8 why are you sorry modern 450s are quicker than old 500 2 strokes. You've missed the point.
Top guy 👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks for watching Nathan. Have a good Xmas
some 2 strokes are lightweight too'and the power'torque'nice if it had good suspension'or put the engine in a 250 frame'modern everything'it willbe faster maybe'
why 500cc 2 stroke beating a lesser cc 4 stroke a surprise? A 2 stoke has more torque and HP of 4 stroke with same cc. A fairer race is with a 600cc 4 stroke of similar weight
2 stroke 500s are just faster and better than any wet fart sounding 450f
Cheers !
Not only are you wrong... but if you were right then why is him winning such a huge accomplishment? Because 500 two strokes are slower than modern 450s.
@@StrykerV8 Its an accomplishment because he is running tech that is supposedly over 20 years out of date without all the fancy bells and whistles of new machines with new tech and better suspension and frame geometry. It is a testament to not only his skill, but also to show that bikes have not evolved so much as to take rider talent out of the equation. He beat the best of today with what was good of yesteryear.
@@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 80% rider, 20% bike. It's a huge accomplishment because as you said, the CR500 technology is prehistoric.
It's a bit "misinformation" to say "doing the impossible". 2 strokes are just as good as 4 strokes, and are better than 4 strokes in many areas, and they are much lighter. The myth that you need an electronic fuel injected 4 stroke is a bunch of BS. The truth is, the bikes from 20 years(if in perfect condition) are competitive with the bikes today.
The only area where there might be some "real" improvement is in the suspension. Otherwise 4 strokes are just a markerters and PR wet dream, making loads of money from all those willing to lay out $10,000 .... insane!!
500's are badass
100%
If this DOESNT open the eyes of the big 4 motocross bike manufacturers about why they have to bring back the big bore two strokes I cant imagine how or why it wouldnt !
I ABSOLUTELY loved racing them in the 80's 💪😎
👍🏻👍🏻 cr 500
Cr500 lighter better sound shame about the emissions.