...and belts, and brakes, and pads, and tires, and rims, and ect. You are gonna see some massive failures running all that power on the stock bikes. But it looks sweet.
You're right there super siper quick I mean it my mate has one its. Not as good is this and it's like a cr 125 no shit pulls of Alot faster too there scary quick 💯
Wow that bike looks like it pulls hard now! Awesome upgrade 👍 Thanks for posting Edwin! The trails are nice and snow free out in western Washington, I know it’s a long way to go.
So fun to see your reaction as it was exactly my reaction when I did the same mod. Of course I was in the dark ages with some crappy 3D printed mounting brackets and zero instructions that were helpful in any way, lol. The next step is a primary chain drive conversation because your belt will be shredded soon. Also keep an eye on the battery plug. Mine started to get so hot that it was melting. Yikes! Have fun!
Ha, you predicted a shredded belt and I just watched the newer video where sure enough he shreds the belt, o boy. Chain drive it is for these conversions.
@@ark6959 Really? You have a 60V or 72V? A friend of mine had the plugs melting on his stock battery/controller, you might have a defect. These plugs are rated for 300A continuous so that shouldn't be an issue…
so sick man, love it.. you can almost feel that 'on-tap' instant punch it's now delivering just from watching it here too haha (I've seen plenty of 'other' various Sur Ron vids, and yeah, for sure, you can easily tell the dramatic difference haha love it). EVs 4-the-Win ..Roll on bro! 👍
@@mountainflyhigh Better leverage against the wheel, less effort to move it. Similar to using a 1 foot breaker bar to break torque on a bolt vs a 3 foot bar. Sure you can do it with the 1 foot bar, but you put way less effort into it with the longer bar that has better leverage. Same concept with the sprocket except now the bar is a circle instead of a line.
God bless ya yung fella absolutely dope surron an your mechanic skills are great you got 5011 other cool toys I'd just save the surron till weather got better 😊
I think what I'll do is get a controller upgrade but for 60v cuz lets be honest 72v+BAC8000 is too much power. And keeping the 60v I could spend the extra 2k on one or two extra batteries. High power and high range. Awesome video!
Wowza! That looks fast. I have my bac8000 all set to install, likely do it today. The 72v battery is on the cards, but am also considering an emax 60v. Keep up the good work mate.
@@ianmangham4570 why is that? and is the bac8000 necessary? Not being a smartass, I really want to know. The motor can only handle about 13kw, so what is the advantage of the bac 8000 over the 4000? I'm in the market for these upgrades.
Now we're getting there, need to fit trials tires on 18 and 21 rims... A concern I have is that 5X power increase also means 5X increase in heat. I'm sure the controller has that covered, but how about the motor? If it gets too hot, the magnets die.
I don’t think he will be able to full power it anyway without flipping himself over, so unless he’s redlining it, heat should not be too much of a problem hopefully
@@turbotim9009 u had the 12k watt, 72v from like leili for example and you prefer the surron? Different bikes obviously one straight like speed and surron off road
@@techfreaks4134 I had a stealth bomber with a cyclone 4.8kw mid drive so it was closer to a sur ron than the hub style bombers. Not nearly as common as the hub motor bombers but much better off-road and such, It was a fun bike but I prefer the surron. Build quality on surron is crazy good
Lol u can give these things power but I’m still skeptical on the performance because of the small light duty chassis, and the non motor bike suspension. Still interested to learn and see how this works out.
@@Nik-gh6gz it's the truth. Its was never intended to be a dirtbike but rather a new class (kuberg fxr1 drill emotion stealth) it is literally a decent motor controller battery combo with a hollow one sided frame and swing arm and the rest is mtb components.. I love my surron but I know what I got
These bikes are a lot tougher than most people realize. I'm 6'2 220lbs and ride mine on pretty technical single track here in Hawaii. Crashed plenty of times and fell off a few cliffs. The bike is fine. With an 18" rear ,running a 3.50" kenda tire the bike hooks up great and climbs like a goat. Fox 40's for a front fork tamed the harsh front end. Check out Mark Hotta or The Chronic Sur Ron Couple's channels. They've been hammering away and testing these bikes for some time, both with motocross and trials/trail backgrounds. Fun people to ride with when I can keep up.
@@ff24 sure the bikes are tough but what I meant is that they will never be more than high power electric mountain bikes. The fox 40 is a mountain bike fork and the roxshox it comes with is too. The chassis and suspension of these bikes won’t ever be more super duty electric mountain bikes.
I ran 20s of nanotechs through my 8000 on my old surron. To say it was overpowered is an understatement but somehow I had my 8000 tuned well enough so it wouldn’t immediately kill you. I’d fall on my sword if I didn’t have BacDoor access like every other poor bastard I run into with an asi haha.
Thanks for the video! This setup would be neat for a DIY bike or go kart. Why not buy a higher end e-dirt bike for the $10k? Cool battery and controller kit, but you leave a lot on the table not going with a higher end bike, with clutch, traditional brake set up, better shocks, tires, and wheels.
This video is gonna sell a lot of batteries and motor controllers. LOL.
...and belts, and brakes, and pads, and tires, and rims, and ect. You are gonna see some massive failures running all that power on the stock bikes. But it looks sweet.
@@portland97211 yeah these noobs dont know yet
Its built for that bike there not cheap you know the bike alone Is about 6 grand
@@callumcoyne5850 so likely a 10k ebike lmfao..no thanks. I can build cheaper and just as powerful
@@MrDeceptacon88 can you upload a how to? That would be sick!
Next step snow bike!
I love this Channel!!
My immediate reaction after he installed the light speed system was "Next mod : Snow Bike" and I come and find this comment.
It is happening for sure!
Happy to hear it thanks!
Snow bike would have about 2 miles of range
Bad ass ride!! It blew my mind the first time I tried a BAC8000 too, you will tear up gas bikes in 1/8th mile drag races on asphalt and dirt!
You're right there super siper quick I mean it my mate has one its. Not as good is this and it's like a cr 125 no shit pulls of Alot faster too there scary quick 💯
Wow that bike looks like it pulls hard now!
Awesome upgrade 👍
Thanks for posting Edwin!
The trails are nice and snow free out in western Washington, I know it’s a long way to go.
You must be near all the craziness
I’m from western Washington to! 😂
@@raginggamer6361 Im in Lake Stevens but I would totally be down to go riding with you guys. I have this same setup and another Stock SurRon Black X.
@@austinw2111 I just realized we have the same name my name is Austin
@@austinw2111 I whould love to go but I just broke my wrist at white pass ski resort
What a badass upgrade Edwin!
I’ve literally never seen a verified person’s comment not have any likes or replies
So fun to see your reaction as it was exactly my reaction when I did the same mod. Of course I was in the dark ages with some crappy 3D printed mounting brackets and zero instructions that were helpful in any way, lol. The next step is a primary chain drive conversation because your belt will be shredded soon. Also keep an eye on the battery plug. Mine started to get so hot that it was melting. Yikes! Have fun!
Ha, you predicted a shredded belt and I just watched the newer video where sure enough he shreds the belt, o boy. Chain drive it is for these conversions.
@@heartsky experience is valuable! Cheers!
@@ark6959
Any mods dealing with the battery plug heat?
@@heartsky I wrapped it with gorilla tape lol. And I dropped the max power to 6kw.
@@ark6959 Really? You have a 60V or 72V? A friend of mine had the plugs melting on his stock battery/controller, you might have a defect. These plugs are rated for 300A continuous so that shouldn't be an issue…
The G forces must be incredible on those launches no doubt.
Dude so hyped on that! Can’t wait to hear about range upgrades (if at all)
Exactly I want to know the range
so sick man, love it.. you can almost feel that 'on-tap' instant punch it's now delivering just from watching it here too haha (I've seen plenty of 'other' various Sur Ron vids, and yeah, for sure, you can easily tell the dramatic difference haha love it). EVs 4-the-Win ..Roll on bro! 👍
The new editing style is so fun!
Glad you dig it!
Glad to se you actually riding something you are always behind the camera. Stay safe have fun dude
Your making everything into a snow vehicle but good luck putting the dirt stuff back on like 4 bikes in the spring 😂. love it
Yeah we definitely decided to do a lot of work. We get so much snow in Idaho and we got to keep playing!
haha, that's nuts... I'm pretty happy with the stock power, I'd get into trouble having that much on tap.
I can feel that cold crisp air ❄️
If you ride trails consider getting a 60 or 64 tooth sprocket, more range and acceleration. You loose some top speed but not a issue on trails.
How does gearing a bike down give you more range?
@@mountainflyhigh Better leverage against the wheel, less effort to move it. Similar to using a 1 foot breaker bar to break torque on a bolt vs a 3 foot bar. Sure you can do it with the 1 foot bar, but you put way less effort into it with the longer bar that has better leverage. Same concept with the sprocket except now the bar is a circle instead of a line.
@@ethanreed3718 - However, the motor also needs to produce higher RPMs to move the same mass the same distance = less efficient.
Nice upgrade! But it would be cool if you can add a motor for the front wheel too for all-wheel drive, especially in what your rode on in the video.
Now your bike can go like 80 mph. This is insane. Only downside is the battery life but this is a great tradeoff imo
That is SICK!!! It's borderline TOO MUCH! Like the Banshee they discontinued due to people dying. I WANT ONE!!!😛😛🐶
The sound of your voice when you said -"THIS IS WHAT I'VE ALWAYS WANTED!!" ❤
The ultra upgrade!!!!
That bad boy rips. Congrats on building a monster.
Don't get hurt we need you to make VIDEOS...LOL super jealous and excited for you..
I'll stay safe don't worry! Haven't seriously hurt myself on a dirt bike since I was 16 haha
Great item very Portable and easy to clean.
Awesome review bro thanx. Totally sold me!
Holy shit!! That thing rips like crazy!!
God bless ya yung fella absolutely dope surron an your mechanic skills are great you got 5011 other cool toys I'd just save the surron till weather got better 😊
this looks like pure madness...
Good evening. One of the strongest bikes is the one owned by the modified Am Sauron ultra bee 🐝
Im getting ready to hook up my 72v 40 ah to my 1500 watt electra townie bicycle. Wish me luck!
Your laughter said it all! 😄👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
That looks so awesome!! 🤪😃 You have made my decision to buy one very easy. Thanks for the content.
Do you want regret it for real it's the most fun thing I've bought as an adult
Hell of a ride...haven`t seen a lot of that type of bike...nice!
They are a blast!
I wouldn’t like that thin heat shrink to rub through and wires short out,bang
Yeah, I was thinking a 3 line terminal block would be the way to go.
I would do multiple heat shrink overlapping layers. Maybe 3 layers. It's really abrasion resistant stuff.
Looks like that was one hell of a rush!
It’s fast I love it!
I saw a quick shot of a sweet willys truck in the background . Will that be in a grindhard video in the future?
Dam Bro that looks so sick wach what your doing on that lol ...so fire I want one si bad ...stay safe & stay awesome ...UK England
Buenísimo!! Imagina sumarle un xtender más la bac 8000 quedaría súper potente y brutal más una larga autonomía
This video has me considering buying one that's bad ass
Insane speed and torque 👍👍
Soooo dope!!! Stoked to see a track on it!
It went from stupid fast to insane. Don't hurt yourself🤣have E put a track on it 😍
Gonna need to find a Speedometer for it now. That thing rips!
For real!
Has the range increased by much using this battery ?
Word what’s the range like
We're all dying to know the range! Haha
I think what I'll do is get a controller upgrade but for 60v cuz lets be honest 72v+BAC8000 is too much power. And keeping the 60v I could spend the extra 2k on one or two extra batteries. High power and high range. Awesome video!
Just got my 2022 Sur-Ron thanks to you and Surronster. so... any giveaways on a bac8000 and 72v anytime soon..? x)
Yeahhhh Nice vidéo !!!
Thanks !!!
👍👌😉
Check out Jack Cecil. Dude actually hit 80+mph on his Suron.
He has a motorcycle dyno in his shop. I recall seeing over 20hp/15kw on his stock motor!
24. something actually!
I want to have smth like this to go grocery store, if only it could take legal license plate or a city street scooter. This would be such beauty.
Hey Edwin great vid ! Is there any programming involved or is it plug and play ? Also does the speedo still work the same way ? Thanks Dave
Surron better sponsor you, this is a good as for thrm
awesome! thx for making this.
I have a question we’re do you get the battery case extender bolt cause I need one
Wowza! That looks fast.
I have my bac8000 all set to install, likely do it today.
The 72v battery is on the cards, but am also considering an emax 60v.
Keep up the good work mate.
With proper amps, the 60V can achieve the same power without problem. It'll tend to heat a bit faster but that's it!
72v is way better
@@ianmangham4570 why is that? and is the bac8000 necessary? Not being a smartass, I really want to know. The motor can only handle about 13kw, so what is the advantage of the bac 8000 over the 4000? I'm in the market for these upgrades.
@@kwent86 Volts speed Amps Torque
thanks for your help with me all brothers and subscribers 👍👍👍
Man i would wheelie that thing for ever ! Sick af!
Your laugh says it all!
Haha
Can't believe I just found this site hahahah thought was only 1 , sweet video
Thanks
that power is bad ass!!!!!!!!!
Dude you're description hahahaha ...has me very intrested...look in to the bike and setup another day.
Wow. That is amazing. I keep wondering why there aren't any factory bikes like that out there?!
Reliability the more power the more ware on the battery it won't have along of a life as a factory battery
That looks so fun with the power wow
It really is!
So jelly! Gonna be a blast man!
The tiltin Hilton tree house needs some love !
i see a snow track for the surron in the near fucher
cant wait for drag race
I stumbled upon this video and was like “why’s this guy sound like the guy from the grind hard plumbing videos?”
Wow that is insane power!!!!
Now we're getting there, need to fit trials tires on 18 and 21 rims...
A concern I have is that 5X power increase also means 5X increase in heat. I'm sure the controller has that covered, but how about the motor? If it gets too hot, the magnets die.
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I don’t think he will be able to full power it anyway without flipping himself over, so unless he’s redlining it, heat should not be too much of a problem hopefully
I heard someone had this exact same setup and full throttled for a bit too long so his motor melt
Have you tested or researched the BAC4000 vs the 8000, I wonder if there is a significant difference in performance?
Aye bro can you send me the links for the batteries an everything I want that foreal 💯
Ordered a 72v stealth bomber from alibaba. It fell off the boat, and I got a refund. Getting a sur Ron instead. Great videos 👍
Sorry to hear about your delay! I think you'll dig the surron tough!
Best thing that could of happened man, I’ve had both the sur ron is so much better
Much slower
@@turbotim9009 u had the 12k watt, 72v from like leili for example and you prefer the surron? Different bikes obviously one straight like speed and surron off road
@@techfreaks4134 I had a stealth bomber with a cyclone 4.8kw mid drive so it was closer to a sur ron than the hub style bombers. Not nearly as common as the hub motor bombers but much better off-road and such, It was a fun bike but I prefer the surron. Build quality on surron is crazy good
Must be right if it makes you laugh like a kid😃👍
Always!
I just started the video and didn’t watch yet I’m still on the commercial at the beginning but can’t wait to see if you hit a triple ha ha Ha
WOOOOHHH!!!😁😁😁✨ I'm looking forward to my next 72v ebike. Finance willing👀🤞
Cool I want one . Did you change the display?
Wild how easy it is to make this thing fast. Issue is to double the power you double the price you pay. Is it worth It? In the long run 100%
hey, are you able to program parameters with the BAC8000? Does it have an app to go along with it?
when u did the first pull on the street it look like u was about to lift off
Awesome uploads does this upgrade increase range as well?
cool tree house!! need tour please
Go on Grind hard plumbing site its all there. You’re welcome.😉
Lol u can give these things power but I’m still skeptical on the performance because of the small light duty chassis, and the non motor bike suspension. Still interested to learn and see how this works out.
In reality it's a mountain bike on steroids
@@mre741 exactly my opinion
@@Nik-gh6gz it's the truth. Its was never intended to be a dirtbike but rather a new class (kuberg fxr1 drill emotion stealth) it is literally a decent motor controller battery combo with a hollow one sided frame and swing arm and the rest is mtb components.. I love my surron but I know what I got
These bikes are a lot tougher than most people realize. I'm 6'2 220lbs and ride mine on pretty technical single track here in Hawaii. Crashed plenty of times and fell off a few cliffs. The bike is fine. With an 18" rear ,running a 3.50" kenda tire the bike hooks up great and climbs like a goat. Fox 40's for a front fork tamed the harsh front end. Check out Mark Hotta or The Chronic Sur Ron Couple's channels. They've been hammering away and testing these bikes for some time, both with motocross and trials/trail backgrounds. Fun people to ride with when I can keep up.
@@ff24 sure the bikes are tough but what I meant is that they will never be more than high power electric mountain bikes. The fox 40 is a mountain bike fork and the roxshox it comes with is too. The chassis and suspension of these bikes won’t ever be more super duty electric mountain bikes.
Are they out of business now? Can’t find anything
Lite speed bikes, Jersey City.
Is any type of tuning required when doing upgrades to these? Or is it plug n play?
That’s epic!! I need to get one them holy dang !
Dude, I want one of these so badly. Unfortunately I'm about to buy a new car, but someday 🤔
There so man get one I recommend it
is danger at the same time !, BE CAREFUL !! and have fun !!! 🚴♀️
I need this in my life! 🤩
I ran 20s of nanotechs through my 8000 on my old surron. To say it was overpowered is an understatement but somehow I had my 8000 tuned well enough so it wouldn’t immediately kill you. I’d fall on my sword if I didn’t have BacDoor access like every other poor bastard I run into with an asi haha.
You had me laughing. Hyper speed!
May I suggest a push button kill switch that you can reach with your thumb while still holding on to the grips
Crazy upgrade 😱 I might need to do this on mine lol
Thanks for the video! This setup would be neat for a DIY bike or go kart. Why not buy a higher end e-dirt bike for the $10k? Cool battery and controller kit, but you leave a lot on the table not going with a higher end bike, with clutch, traditional brake set up, better shocks, tires, and wheels.
Awesome video! Keep it up
Sounds soo cool!!!
Can you do a 1 year update on this kit? I want to know if all these aftermarket parts and mainly battery have held up well compared to stock
electric snow bike for sure!!!
so sick, i'm getting one and I'm doing the same thing
AWESOME. How much was the upgrade. THANKS ???
Ahhhhh I want this! Let’s get them sent to Australia for me 😎🏍💨
I think you can also upgrade the motor to get 33 kw