Exactly, it doesn't make sense yet I see we will receive ways to upgrade the interior of small houses into mansion size and they are even going as far as removing beams in said houses in upcoming patches. Adding hats for Hrothgar and Viera must be "Too Complex" smh
I literally bought the Snow outfit off the cash shop so I can have the bandana hair and pretend it's a hat. Combine with the pince-nez and I turned my weakness into a strength.
I used to play Viera. I was hoping for being able to show hats ( I have so many beautiful ones to complete my glamour), but then I switched to Miqo with the free change. I would have prefered to stay Viera tho. :(
It seems like the consistent thing with the Viera headwear where the ears are visible is that the regular hair doesn't display? Not no clue about the specifics. And I do appreciate that it seems like lately more helmets are accounting for Viera ears just like Elezen and Miqote ears. But yeah as a Viera player, I definitely still share in your disapointment for sure. And as someone who originally got into Final Fantasy via Tactics Advance I was also crushed I couldn't recreate the iconic Viera Red Mage look.
The thing with the Viera helmets is that there is gear like the Artifact Armors for Reaper and Viper, which come with hoods, and those hoods do show perfectly fine with the ears clipping through it (which, honestly, doesn't bother me), but they decide that helmets, where they could essentially just do the same, are a no go... it's just strange decisionmaking. And YES! Both my introduction to Final Fantasy and the reason why i chose to play as a Viera in FFXIV were exactly the same as yours: The brilliant FFTA-games (which, sadly, get totally overshadowed by the calls for a remake for the original FFT, but would deserve a remake or a sequel all the same) and the cute Viera-sprites, Red Mage chief amongst the (also Sharpshooters and Assassins).
From what I understand on the matter it's because all hairstyles in the game actually have 2 models, excluding the hrothgar and viera unique hairstyles which only have 1. Model 1 would be the regular model you see when the player isn't wearing any helmet whereas model 2 is a "compressed" version of the hairstyle that's meant to account for both clipping and how you would actually tuck longer hair into a hat. The most obvious example being the afro hairstyle and how it drastically shrinks when put in a hat. Apparently since neither viera or hrothgar have this second model for their unique racial hairstyles the devs solution was to axe the hats entirely something that while it could be construed as lazy makes a bit more sense when you remember how tight the release of both shadowbringers and endwalker were, with endwalker even requiring a delay that Yoshi P publicly apologized for. That being said it has been a while since and I really want my RDM hat Yoshi Plz.
To be fair the dolls are a very different team then graphic team of in game. But yeah I kinda get with the Viera I hate it and I don't even play the buns. I switched my Miqo'te to Hroth cause I hated how short she was and even as a Miqo'te I couldn't stand any hat that didn't have ear holes or covering that let the ears point up. For Hrothgar it makes 0 sense. Their ears are not much bigger then a Miqo'te. If its the location that's the problem then just copy from the Miqo'te. But most of all. No excuses for cash shop hats or hairs.
It's less about who works on it and more about how the money is invested. Adapting headwear for both groups would require time and resources, but they chose not to do it-not because they couldn't, but because they didn't have to. This decision doesn't hurt their profits; in fact, it benefits them. The saved funds can be redirected into more profitable ventures, such as selling merchandise like dolls.
I love Viera, but it baffles me that even in Dawntrail with the "new models" we got, the head pieces STILL don't work that are Dawntrail drops. The healer and melee set you can see the hat just fine...But the fending help for this current tier, no??? I don't understand. If the universal models were meant to avoid this in Dawntrail, why is it still persisting anyways? Square can't figure it out, but modders have since 2020. Come on Yoshi-san. Love you to bits, but come on man.
square is too busy remodeling chins and every single outfits for lalas to care about vieras and hroths jokes aside at this point i feel like its stubborness on yoshi p part, allmost as if he is so jealous of his game he doesnt want to admit he was wrong in his decision making
lol, the real kicker for me is the fact that Elidibus and Koana rocking Male Viera hairstyles no problem. So not only do we not have newer gear with ear holes for Hrothgar and Viera but NPC's would be able to wear hats with Viera hair XD.
How many years have come and gone since that day, and how many more must Hrothgar and Viera players suffer.
Modders have it figured out. But that's something we aren't supposed to be using, but if Modders can figure it out, why can't Square?
Still mad about the reaper hat and then the red mage hat that's basically roughly the same shape on top isn't allowed for viera.
Exactly, it doesn't make sense yet I see we will receive ways to upgrade the interior of small houses into mansion size and they are even going as far as removing beams in said houses in upcoming patches. Adding hats for Hrothgar and Viera must be "Too Complex" smh
I literally bought the Snow outfit off the cash shop so I can have the bandana hair and pretend it's a hat. Combine with the pince-nez and I turned my weakness into a strength.
Power to you.
I used to play Viera. I was hoping for being able to show hats ( I have so many beautiful ones to complete my glamour), but then I switched to Miqo with the free change. I would have prefered to stay Viera tho. :(
Sorry to hear :(, It shouldn't be like that, we wanna play and enjoy the game just as much as anyone else.
It seems like the consistent thing with the Viera headwear where the ears are visible is that the regular hair doesn't display? Not no clue about the specifics. And I do appreciate that it seems like lately more helmets are accounting for Viera ears just like Elezen and Miqote ears. But yeah as a Viera player, I definitely still share in your disapointment for sure. And as someone who originally got into Final Fantasy via Tactics Advance I was also crushed I couldn't recreate the iconic Viera Red Mage look.
The thing with the Viera helmets is that there is gear like the Artifact Armors for Reaper and Viper, which come with hoods, and those hoods do show perfectly fine with the ears clipping through it (which, honestly, doesn't bother me), but they decide that helmets, where they could essentially just do the same, are a no go... it's just strange decisionmaking.
And YES! Both my introduction to Final Fantasy and the reason why i chose to play as a Viera in FFXIV were exactly the same as yours: The brilliant FFTA-games (which, sadly, get totally overshadowed by the calls for a remake for the original FFT, but would deserve a remake or a sequel all the same) and the cute Viera-sprites, Red Mage chief amongst the (also Sharpshooters and Assassins).
From what I understand on the matter it's because all hairstyles in the game actually have 2 models, excluding the hrothgar and viera unique hairstyles which only have 1. Model 1 would be the regular model you see when the player isn't wearing any helmet whereas model 2 is a "compressed" version of the hairstyle that's meant to account for both clipping and how you would actually tuck longer hair into a hat. The most obvious example being the afro hairstyle and how it drastically shrinks when put in a hat. Apparently since neither viera or hrothgar have this second model for their unique racial hairstyles the devs solution was to axe the hats entirely something that while it could be construed as lazy makes a bit more sense when you remember how tight the release of both shadowbringers and endwalker were, with endwalker even requiring a delay that Yoshi P publicly apologized for.
That being said it has been a while since and I really want my RDM hat Yoshi Plz.
To be fair the dolls are a very different team then graphic team of in game.
But yeah I kinda get with the Viera I hate it and I don't even play the buns.
I switched my Miqo'te to Hroth cause I hated how short she was and even as a Miqo'te I couldn't stand any hat that didn't have ear holes or covering that let the ears point up.
For Hrothgar it makes 0 sense. Their ears are not much bigger then a Miqo'te. If its the location that's the problem then just copy from the Miqo'te.
But most of all. No excuses for cash shop hats or hairs.
It's less about who works on it and more about how the money is invested. Adapting headwear for both groups would require time and resources, but they chose not to do it-not because they couldn't, but because they didn't have to. This decision doesn't hurt their profits; in fact, it benefits them. The saved funds can be redirected into more profitable ventures, such as selling merchandise like dolls.
I love Viera, but it baffles me that even in Dawntrail with the "new models" we got, the head pieces STILL don't work that are Dawntrail drops. The healer and melee set you can see the hat just fine...But the fending help for this current tier, no??? I don't understand. If the universal models were meant to avoid this in Dawntrail, why is it still persisting anyways? Square can't figure it out, but modders have since 2020. Come on Yoshi-san. Love you to bits, but come on man.
Its a slap in the face for those of us who enjoy playing the race, we pay the same as all players yet have less options.
I am a proud female hrothgal i want my hat and hair. For the love of the twelve se hire the modders to fix it
Awesomeness ❤
I'm still mad over the Loporrit ear wiggle not using viera's ears
square is too busy remodeling chins and every single outfits for lalas to care about vieras and hroths
jokes aside at this point i feel like its stubborness on yoshi p part, allmost as if he is so jealous of his game he doesnt want to admit he was wrong in his decision making
lol, the real kicker for me is the fact that Elidibus and Koana rocking Male Viera hairstyles no problem. So not only do we not have newer gear with ear holes for Hrothgar and Viera but NPC's would be able to wear hats with Viera hair XD.