Sets skipping sizes these days in general to me is just admitting they are aiming for DIY, you can't skip a size or in this case 3 and claim you're trying to sell to someone who makes a living with these.
Every GM vehicle since 2000 or earlier uses 18mm heads on almost their entire suspension, it drives me bananas when sets skip 18mm. Especially since a lot of reasonably priced brands dont offer individual sockets/wrenches, or they are at least hard to find.
Mid 2000s Saab owner here, yup... also wrenches that thick are terrible for alot of suspension work. Although I do have the Husky thin wrenches I've been pleasantly surprised with. I didnt have time to wait for the Capris.
Yeah. 1996 Chevy k1500 uses some 18mm bolts. Luckily one of my sets came with one, but I did have to buy a 16mm and 20mm wrench separately for some parts I was working on.
16mm and 18mm are still common in industrial machines sucks to see cost reduction come down to entry level tools like these feel bad for the apprentice fresh out of trade school who's gonna have to buy more wrenches and borrow coworkers tools in the meantime
I think you should penalize companys that don't include 16mm and 18mm in their sets as those are very common sizes on Caterpillar, John Deere and Ford vehicles. These may be the largest Construction equipment, farming, and truck manufactures in the world, so plenty of 16mm and 18mm fasteners out there.
I won't buy wrench or socket sets that either skip sizes and/or don't sell singles. I work on to large a variety of equipment to find out halfway through a project that I literally don't have that size tool.
I won a set of metric flank drive plus wrenches in an diag auto competition years ago. It was apparent immediately that when you needed to lean on an open end they hit different. No open end use case is ideal but these were the 1st I used and they are great.
A thickness corrected torque would be an interesting way to look at these against one another to compare how they are biting the hex stock to get a better idea of how biting jaw design, material hardness, and oversize width play out.
I wonder how linear the thickness : torque ratio is. I think the way to test is start with the thickest wrench and gradually grind off increments of about 5-10% of the thickness range and test at each point. I suspect it is linear, but would still be good to get the slope of that line.
@@szurketaltos2693 Grind off any material from the wrench's open end will alter the heat treating and vastly alter the results. What appears tobe happening with the vast market wrench brands, they are designing and making their wrenched to meet TH-cam folks like these knowing they have vast influence over potential buyers. Fact remains, open end wrenches should NOT be used to crack loose a threaded fastener unless the situation is dire with no options. Note there is not a lot of testing for boxed ends of the wrenches as the box end is nearly always stronger than an open end wrench. Not mentioned or tested, damage to the hex or similar fastener head when held by these gripping open end wrenches.
@@Greeev That would be a NO.. Heat treatment is not uniform across the entire depth of the heat treated metal. Specific to hand tool heat treatment, often has specific depth to the hardness where the surface is harder than the core, This is done to improve hardness at the outer while preserving a softer inner core to allow elasticity where needed and hardness/strength at the outer where needed.
I forget where I found them, probably Home Depot, but I purchased the 6 and 7 mm Milwaukee wrenches to round out the set. They just hang out at the bottom of the tray near the 8 mm. They have up to 36 mm wrenches, for $100, in the Milwaukee Max Bite line.
The carlyle xl no slip metric 12 piece set is 70 bucks right now at napa....which is crazy priced at less than half the usual price of around 200.00.For anyone interested.They are fantastic wrenches and beautifully finished if you get a lucky blemish free set..also skip free 8-19mm.
They do the same kind of testing-they just don't film it and post it. Their labs and staff are amazing. Of course, they focus on things that are of interest to the majority of the public.
Great, as always. I love how clear and unbiased your testing is. I have a few requests if youre not already looking into them: The new Bauer right angled impact The box ends of the Anti slip grip wrenches Anti slip sockets I always look forward to your videos every week. Keep up the great work!
I had a 12 inch crescent brand adjustable wrench with whatever the black coating *used to be* and I work in a shipyard in San Diego. It worked great for everything, didn't really rust much at all even though it got dropped in water more than a handful of times. Ocean air never put any spotting of rust on it even after it was partially melted in one spot from HV short circuit from a welding lead. If they're using the same coating it will probably say rust free for a very long time so long as you make a minor attempt to keep it dry
The thickness in the grip area really helps the hand strain, but too bad that isn't considered. Much nicer feeling than my Mac Tools set that is thinner and more squared off. I feel it in my knuckles when I have to crank down with those. The Milwaukees just kind of get better distributed in my whole hand. Granted the thickness is tested at the head, but I also see it a plus there to prevent rounding off bolts while allowing some quick release/grip as you are wrenching since the tolerance isn't the tightest. They are just a great set for the money in general for a first "complete set with no skips" despite perceived drawbacks.
Milwaukees need to be thicker because they are using much lower quality steel snap on wrenches are much thinner because they use alot higher quality steel.
I still use the original Husky slim line polished SAE and metric for over 25 years, Not one ever broke or slipped, did loose the 10 and 11 mm once over the years and replaced with Gearwrench. 35+ years in the commercial heavy duty work place I have refused to buy sets from the tool truck and only big expense was a snap on KRL1000 box, deep top hutch with fold down door and 2 side lockers from snap on. Other than that the Only high end tools I got from tool trucks was what the other brands didn't have. Specialty wrenches i took cheap ones and simply heat and bend to fit the need and quench them in oil.
I had the craftsman wrenches in my cart a few weeks ago and got side tracked and didn't buy them. Now I've got to throw milwaukee into the mix... Great video as always!
We still have both rankings listed under hand tools, but Pushy's results are seperate because its an automated machine, and we're looking at multiple sizes and material types worked on not just 1
Any 6pt socket will turn any regular steel test hex into a pretzel, they only start to have an advantage one over the other as you machine down a hex into 40% rounded, 50% rounded ect and we're unsure if there's an appetite for that kind of test
Its 2025 my man. Pretty much any socket from any reputable brand will work on any non-damaged bolt or nut about the same. The only difference you will notice will be socket thickness and how well the socket works on damaged fasteners. If you will break or wear out a Tekton you will wear out a Snap on.
I'm still happy that i went with the craftsman overdrive. Not only does it have 16 and 18mm sizes, but it also has a 6-point box end, as opposed to a half-assed ratcheting end like Milwaukee, or a bolt-rounding 12-point junk like the rest of them
@ The jaws are soft metal , with wrenching daily , they warp and can no longer fit there designated size . Milwaukee only make good power tools . All other hand tools are garbage , they fall apart easily.
@@Pure-BloodedDo you use the Milwaukee daily? What type of work do you do? My Milwaukee hand tools have been excellent when not abused. Even broke a Land Rover crank bolt loose with the 1/2” ratchet and cheater pipe.
@Pure-Blooded I guess I'll have to wait and see how they hold up. The HRC of the Milwaukee is right in line with all of the tool truck brands. The jaw design and HRC is identical to the Mac RBRT. I don't see any bad reviews or complaints about them experiencing excessive wear.
Would like to see you re-test the non-non-slip wrenches again, now that you have pushy. Also, since the Icon ratcheting non-slip wrenches use a different design from their non-ratcheting, non-slip wrenches, it would be nice to see how they compare (they seem similar to the Crescent you tested in this test, but I could be mistaken).
I'm assuming that you are talking about newer Nisaan/Infiniti? So Renault trash. Real Japanese made from back in the day (Pre Ghosn) never used any of these sizes.
Great Videos! For some reason I cannot get enough of the wrench performance tests. However, the numerical achievements - taken to extremes - reminds me of my bike riding days where folks would literally choose a motorcycle based on top-speed, bragging rights (kawasaki zx 14r vs suzuki hayabusa). Before the electronically-pre-regulated days I recall both being over 200 miles per hour with a single digit difference. Right. . . a speed you will never obtain except on the Salt Flats at optimum conditions drives the warmness in you belly? I still have my purchased-in-the-80s $4 India-wrench set. 20-years of pro-shop use and an ounce of brains, they have worked fine - but of course I did not task the open-end to the likes of some of the images you showed 🤣🤣🤣. In my experience I have found that the worse a nut/bolt is, the less likely I am to want my wrench to be gripping/turning-whatever less a bolt break off in a block/(or whatever) or stripping threads making my job longer/harder. That job is best left to heat, cutting, [nut]-splitting or soaking. The understandable impatience of the 'pro'-mechanic is precisely why I still work on my cars 20 years AFTER my pro-shop career transitioned. And every car-task I have set out to do - on my 1991, 2003, and 2008 cars - has been accomplished by my now 20+ sets of wrenches of every brand, bend, grip-tech and length. All for the equivalent cost of one set of Snap-On wrenches (or close to it).
I got the Milwaukee’s just because i liked the design, they have not disappointed. Many times my FD+ just won’t do it and the milwaukees will. But as mentioned, the milwaukees won’t fit in the same places snappys will. They both serve their purpose, very well.
Those huskys are intriguing. There's definitely been a few times when 0 offset comes in handy. I'm concerned the directional box end could lead to accidental rounding.
Agreed. Much easier on hand strain. The sort of loose tolerance on them also helps to release and reengage bolts. Sort of a "well engineered sloppy" fit for 95% of jobs.
I’d really like to see the new wrench dyno test wrenches that aren’t going to tear up fasteners. I don’t live in a rusty climate and can’t think of any time I’d need one of these style of wrenches.
I actually use 16 a fair bit, idk why but euro cars seem to use them for certain things like caliper carrier bolts etc. Sets skipping sizes is the biggest "skip" in my book, especially for things like store brands where i can't always easily source the missing size
Hey if we leave out the most commonly used size for rusted out suspension systems we'll never have to warranty them...🤔🤣 Pretty sweet wrenches though 👍
I bought the Husky Bite wrenches specifically for the six point box end. It seems almost everything out there is 12 point. They do seem a bit gimmicky but I picked up a new set for $30, so no real loss if they don't perform. I need something I feel a bit more confident in when using it to loosen up a nut/bolt/bleeder screw knowing it is less likely round over the fastener in question. My Milwaukee wrenches are fine for other jobs plus I can switch to a 12 point wrench, instead of using the six point Husky, once the fastener has been broken loose.
My vehicle requires 18mm wrenches to work on the suspension so I've had to buy a few of those to add to the tool sets I already had. "pushes on the fastener without an opposing side to stop it..." Yes there is no opposing side but there is friction in the parallel flats. How much friction? Well it's going to be a small percentage of the perpendicular force. The perpendicular force is large so on paper it should offern an improvement. If it isn't significant in the results then something else is happening. On the wrenches with the little grooves maybe the V could help more. You would have to test the wrench, then grind out the V, then test again, in order to really know. I agree that it seems more like a gimmick but maybe more testing is required.
Great and thorough testing. While I appreciate the strength and value of the Husky and Milwaukee they're just too thick for me and have too much slop. On a budget I'd probably be looking at the Icon set, but honestly speaking as a retired professional nothing is ever as sweet to use as the Snap On FD+. If you make a living doing this stuff it's the details and feel of day to day use that makes the difference and Snap on length, thickness, grip and feel check all the right boxes. Lots of great options these days for DIYers at all price points though.
Skips are a no go. I have the Icon with 40% off it’s hard to argue against. Picked up the craftsman overdrive this past holiday on the cheap too. I’ve always liked Milwaukee screwdrivers looks like the wrenches came to play.
Say what you will about husky tools for the home gamer working on his own stuff and having them readily available at a decent price they are hard to beat
Please do more flare nut wrenches. You never tested Husky brand. Also would appreciate it if you included the autopart store brands like Performance tool, Power Torque and Duralast to know how bad they are.
My Proto anti slip wrenches are where it’s at. I bought those based the original open end wrench throw down. I don’t even go for line wrenches anymore.
Trouble is you never break loose fasteners with a open end wrench unless its the only way. In my 25 years as an auto tech it happened so few times they might as well be made from butter..
When I was a kid, we only had a crescent wrench, pliers and a hammer to work on bicycles and small gas motors... I rounded SO MANY fasteners, it was ridiculous...!!! When I FINALLY acquired some proper tools, in my teens, I NEVER wanted to use ANYTHING OPEN END, ever again, LOL, and that mindset continues as an adult...!!! Brake lines, fuel and fluid lines, plumbing, that's about IT...!!!
Hmm, potential issue with the ranking methodology, tighter tollerance isn't a good thing when working on rusty stuff. Rust expands the steel so you want them to have a bit of give (after all 19.5mm sockets sell well due to rusted chrome lug nuts).
Would you ever consider testing the wrenches with only a fraction of the test fastener to bite onto (the hex stock only being 2 or 3 millimeters tall)? Then it could be a more level playing field when dealing with "which wrench gives the most torque from this limited bite."
I had to unscrew a 3/8in fine thread nut that only had a 1/8in of flats on it(this isn't a standard nut, it's part of a another mechanism). Of course, threads were tight and it only had a set of flats, no hex. That is a perfect example of when a harder, stronger wrench is perfect, as jaw spread could have easily caused issues with slipping off the nut.
Great video. I’d like to see the “regular” icon wrenches (set 56611) since the anti slip did so well. I wonder how they’d compare and if they’d be good for times when you don’t want to damage the bolt/nut
Been waiting to see those wrenches. Wonder how the box end performs on the huskys. Also wonder how old made in the USA craftsman wrenches stack up to modern wrenches in general
Measuring stretch systematically would be good. If a wrench stretches meaningfully,, it's probably as much junk as if it had broken, as using up one wrench per nut is not usually good.
Also no Extractor Wrenches, the closed end toothy ones that are MADE to not slip. A video towards messed up oil drain plugs and the wrenches associated 😊
With different measurement and rankings from your original rankings a few years back I'm not sure if the budget anti=slip wrenches actually grip better than my vintage Craftsman which were near the top of the rankings just below the professional Pronto, snap-on, mac... or if the budget anti-slips will just chew up nuts that could have been removed with a good conventional wrench.
I would love to see you test some auto parts brand tools. I work at O'Reilly and want to see where the PowerTorque series stands. Better or worse than Harbor Freight, Walmart, Home Depot, Lowe's, etc. Especially against AutoZone tools. Thanks if you even consider this pleb request!
Ever since harbor freight started making good Pittsburgh tools i never waste money on expensive tools i dont need. Still have my original craftsman and gearwrench tools and 5 very specific snap on tools but HF is where its at. They even sell tool box inserts like cmon how do you beat that? Ive been happy using there diagnostic tools . They work well and dont stress me on the job or the wallet.
Am I the only one that thought out loud with the 19m Milwaukee wrench "Flip it Over!" to get it off the test hex? Might have to get a set of them. Always knew a thicker wrench gave more leverage. Taking out early Rover 1/4" fluid check plugs. They were square head but they would rust stuck and the only wrench with enough surface were over 1/4" thick.
One recommendation: When you do Rockwell hardness testing, you must grind off the coating to bare metal so the coating/plating doesn't obscure the results.
Since you work for Astro, what happened to the extractor wrenches that were rebranded for Matco as well? I got the metric set a while back, but needed the standard to get all the sizes. When I looked, it was discontinued
I wonder if the cheap Gearwrench bolt biters are a gimick. They're certainly cheap. I'm not sure if there are real brands that make similar products, however.
Great test as usual. Sets missing 18mm are a crime since so many suspension nuts and bolts are 18mm.
Sets skipping sizes these days in general to me is just admitting they are aiming for DIY, you can't skip a size or in this case 3 and claim you're trying to sell to someone who makes a living with these.
I had to go door-to-door neighbors to try to find an 18 mil wrench to take off my Silverado suspension lol
I thought 18mm use had become widespread enough to be included in most decent sets by now. In my case it is a very common used size and needed.
It’s not that serious. You can buy a Tekton 18mm combination wrench for $9 and you’re covered.
Lol don't work on a Euro car with these sets! I used every size from 13-21 doing the control arms/bushings on my e46 the other day.
Every GM vehicle since 2000 or earlier uses 18mm heads on almost their entire suspension, it drives me bananas when sets skip 18mm. Especially since a lot of reasonably priced brands dont offer individual sockets/wrenches, or they are at least hard to find.
Psssh Chrysler beat them to it by several decades. And that lonely unexpected torx just to make things fun.
My R56 suspension/subframe uses 16mm and 18mm sizes...I wish more sets would include them.
Mid 2000s Saab owner here, yup... also wrenches that thick are terrible for alot of suspension work. Although I do have the Husky thin wrenches I've been pleasantly surprised with. I didnt have time to wait for the Capris.
Yeah. 1996 Chevy k1500 uses some 18mm bolts. Luckily one of my sets came with one, but I did have to buy a 16mm and 20mm wrench separately for some parts I was working on.
My 94 Explorer had 18's hidden all throughout the damn truck lol.
16mm and 18mm are still common in industrial machines sucks to see cost reduction come down to entry level tools like these feel bad for the apprentice fresh out of trade school who's gonna have to buy more wrenches and borrow coworkers tools in the meantime
I think you should penalize companys that don't include 16mm and 18mm in their sets as those are very common sizes on Caterpillar, John Deere and Ford vehicles. These may be the largest Construction equipment, farming, and truck manufactures in the world, so plenty of 16mm and 18mm fasteners out there.
My Saab sway bar end link flats are 18
@@jaseswinconos 900S?
I won't buy wrench or socket sets that either skip sizes and/or don't sell singles. I work on to large a variety of equipment to find out halfway through a project that I literally don't have that size tool.
@@galeng73 93 Aero
As a cat tech, i agree
I won a set of metric flank drive plus wrenches in an diag auto competition years ago. It was apparent immediately that when you needed to lean on an open end they hit different. No open end use case is ideal but these were the 1st I used and they are great.
A thickness corrected torque would be an interesting way to look at these against one another to compare how they are biting the hex stock to get a better idea of how biting jaw design, material hardness, and oversize width play out.
I wonder how linear the thickness : torque ratio is. I think the way to test is start with the thickest wrench and gradually grind off increments of about 5-10% of the thickness range and test at each point. I suspect it is linear, but would still be good to get the slope of that line.
@@szurketaltos2693 Grind off any material from the wrench's open end will alter the heat treating and vastly alter the results.
What appears tobe happening with the vast market wrench brands, they are designing and making their wrenched to meet TH-cam folks like these knowing they have vast influence over potential buyers. Fact remains, open end wrenches should NOT be used to crack loose a threaded fastener unless the situation is dire with no options.
Note there is not a lot of testing for boxed ends of the wrenches as the box end is nearly always stronger than an open end wrench.
Not mentioned or tested, damage to the hex or similar fastener head when held by these gripping open end wrenches.
@@rupunzel6299it wouldn't alter the heat treat as long as you were careful to not let it get too hot during stock removal.
@@Greeev That would be a NO..
Heat treatment is not uniform across the entire depth of the heat treated metal. Specific to hand tool heat treatment, often has specific depth to the hardness where the surface is harder than the core, This is done to improve hardness at the outer while preserving a softer inner core to allow elasticity where needed and hardness/strength at the outer where needed.
@@rupunzel6299 you are correct, however the hardness of the jaw faces shouldn't be affected.
I bought the Milwaukee wrench set 8-22mm and I love it.
I have the same set and I love it. Great to see them score so well here. I’m even happier with my purchase now.
I forget where I found them, probably Home Depot, but I purchased the 6 and 7 mm Milwaukee wrenches to round out the set. They just hang out at the bottom of the tray near the 8 mm. They have up to 36 mm wrenches, for $100, in the Milwaukee Max Bite line.
The carlyle xl no slip metric 12 piece set is 70 bucks right now at napa....which is crazy priced at less than half the usual price of around 200.00.For anyone interested.They are fantastic wrenches and beautifully finished if you get a lucky blemish free set..also skip free 8-19mm.
I checked it out and it looks like 8mm isn't included (which is a bummer cuz my dirtbike has tons of 8mm) still looks like a great set though!
My carlyles are my favorite wrenchs
What Consumer Reports should be. Well done, Sir!
They do the same kind of testing-they just don't film it and post it. Their labs and staff are amazing. Of course, they focus on things that are of interest to the majority of the public.
@@afellowinnewengland6142 yah but when they conclude that every single washing machine tested sucks it does not actually help a consumer🤷♀
Makita XGT 1" has hit the wild on the other side of the world. I can't wait.
Great, as always. I love how clear and unbiased your testing is.
I have a few requests if youre not already looking into them:
The new Bauer right angled impact
The box ends of the Anti slip grip wrenches
Anti slip sockets
I always look forward to your videos every week. Keep up the great work!
I have both the sae and metric Milwaukee 15 piece wrench sets. Awesome wrenches
What the advantage of SAE VS metric? I mainly work on cars.
I had a 12 inch crescent brand adjustable wrench with whatever the black coating *used to be* and I work in a shipyard in San Diego. It worked great for everything, didn't really rust much at all even though it got dropped in water more than a handful of times. Ocean air never put any spotting of rust on it even after it was partially melted in one spot from HV short circuit from a welding lead. If they're using the same coating it will probably say rust free for a very long time so long as you make a minor attempt to keep it dry
Thanks for the testing! I have a bit of a tool addiction and this helps prevent impulse buys 😂
Lots of money well spent because of this channel
One of my favorite wrench series
I rarely use wrenches. But I love seeing new tools on the channel.
I'm glad to see my Milwaukee Wrenches tested so well. They would be in first without the thickness deduction. I've been waiting for this episode. 👍
You’re right but if snap on was the same width it would be testing higher to
The down side is it’s harder to take advantage of due to the short-ish length.
The logic doesn’t hold tho. If they were all thicker they’d all score better.
The thickness in the grip area really helps the hand strain, but too bad that isn't considered. Much nicer feeling than my Mac Tools set that is thinner and more squared off. I feel it in my knuckles when I have to crank down with those. The Milwaukees just kind of get better distributed in my whole hand. Granted the thickness is tested at the head, but I also see it a plus there to prevent rounding off bolts while allowing some quick release/grip as you are wrenching since the tolerance isn't the tightest. They are just a great set for the money in general for a first "complete set with no skips" despite perceived drawbacks.
Milwaukees need to be thicker because they are using much lower quality steel snap on wrenches are much thinner because they use alot higher quality steel.
I still use the original Husky slim line polished SAE and metric for over 25 years, Not one ever broke or slipped, did loose the 10 and 11 mm once over the years and replaced with Gearwrench. 35+ years in the commercial heavy duty work place I have refused to buy sets from the tool truck and only big expense was a snap on KRL1000 box, deep top hutch with fold down door and 2 side lockers from snap on. Other than that the Only high end tools I got from tool trucks was what the other brands didn't have. Specialty wrenches i took cheap ones and simply heat and bend to fit the need and quench them in oil.
I have those Husky wrenches too. They've been a great set of wrenches. USA made.
I had the craftsman wrenches in my cart a few weeks ago and got side tracked and didn't buy them. Now I've got to throw milwaukee into the mix... Great video as always!
I like the length and look of the Craftsman, but the set completeness of the Milwaukee set to 22mm
Bad ass vid. I was always weary of those Milwaukee’s because of the v cut
That crescent set is an insanely good deal
They're $26 at the moment, hard to be upset with those amzn.to/4jDUTmg
no 16mm?
@@beargillium2369You can easily buy a 16mm with the money you save.
@@beargillium2369 and no 18. Just charge $32 and add them. It would still be an incredible deal.
That’s a great deal. And just fill in the missing ones buying them separately
Man, do I love fridays.
same! this is a good consistent channel
Did I miss the wright grip Wrenchs? They are outstanding
They were in earlier wrench reviews, I think since they redid they're wrench testing with Pushy they have took all the old results off?
We still have both rankings listed under hand tools, but Pushy's results are seperate because its an automated machine, and we're looking at multiple sizes and material types worked on not just 1
@TorqueTestChannel are yall going to go back and retest? I know your busy, love ya
Damn!! That’s crazy!! Another great video!!
Can we get a metric chrome socket test? Snap on, Mac, Sk, Matco, Cornwell vs Proto, Icon, Gearwrench, Capri, Tekton, Craftsman, Milwaukee.
Any 6pt socket will turn any regular steel test hex into a pretzel, they only start to have an advantage one over the other as you machine down a hex into 40% rounded, 50% rounded ect and we're unsure if there's an appetite for that kind of test
@ We’ve all cracked a lot of chrome sockets over the years. Be nice to see who’s on top for fitment and most durable.
Its 2025 my man. Pretty much any socket from any reputable brand will work on any non-damaged bolt or nut about the same. The only difference you will notice will be socket thickness and how well the socket works on damaged fasteners. If you will break or wear out a Tekton you will wear out a Snap on.
@@TorqueTestChannel Have you seen that makita guy in New Zealand, he got the new XGT 1" drive rattle gun. Looks like a beast
thank you for testing the husky bite!!! from what ive seen them and the icon are the only ones you can get with the anti-slip + ratcheting
After all this time… I still enjoy every single video y’all make. Not many channels I can say that about. Thank you for all you do. 🙏
I'm still happy that i went with the craftsman overdrive. Not only does it have 16 and 18mm sizes, but it also has a 6-point box end, as opposed to a half-assed ratcheting end like Milwaukee, or a bolt-rounding 12-point junk like the rest of them
Awesome! Just bought the Milwaukee 30 piece non-ratcheting set for $170/$5.66 ea.
Bad choice
@Pure-Blooded how so?
@ The jaws are soft metal , with wrenching daily , they warp and can no longer fit there designated size . Milwaukee only make good power tools . All other hand tools are garbage , they fall apart easily.
@@Pure-BloodedDo you use the Milwaukee daily? What type of work do you do? My Milwaukee hand tools have been excellent when not abused. Even broke a Land Rover crank bolt loose with the 1/2” ratchet and cheater pipe.
@Pure-Blooded I guess I'll have to wait and see how they hold up. The HRC of the Milwaukee is right in line with all of the tool truck brands. The jaw design and HRC is identical to the Mac RBRT. I don't see any bad reviews or complaints about them experiencing excessive wear.
Would like to see you re-test the non-non-slip wrenches again, now that you have pushy. Also, since the Icon ratcheting non-slip wrenches use a different design from their non-ratcheting, non-slip wrenches, it would be nice to see how they compare (they seem similar to the Crescent you tested in this test, but I could be mistaken).
Nissan and infiniti are riddled with 16mm, and 18mm hardware. It sucks shilling out extra for a brand name just to get the size you need.
I'm assuming that you are talking about newer Nisaan/Infiniti? So Renault trash. Real Japanese made from back in the day (Pre Ghosn) never used any of these sizes.
@Datsuntech on my 02 maxima it was the same deal, 18s, 16s, and 14s. Some 19 and 21 for suspension but thats it
Nuttin' to add - just tickling the algo
gotta say those cresecent wrenches look sick. phosphate really looks good on wrenches
Glad to see Pushy back!
Great Videos! For some reason I cannot get enough of the wrench performance tests. However, the numerical achievements - taken to extremes - reminds me of my bike riding days where folks would literally choose a motorcycle based on top-speed, bragging rights (kawasaki zx 14r vs suzuki hayabusa). Before the electronically-pre-regulated days I recall both being over 200 miles per hour with a single digit difference. Right. . . a speed you will never obtain except on the Salt Flats at optimum conditions drives the warmness in you belly? I still have my purchased-in-the-80s $4 India-wrench set. 20-years of pro-shop use and an ounce of brains, they have worked fine - but of course I did not task the open-end to the likes of some of the images you showed 🤣🤣🤣. In my experience I have found that the worse a nut/bolt is, the less likely I am to want my wrench to be gripping/turning-whatever less a bolt break off in a block/(or whatever) or stripping threads making my job longer/harder. That job is best left to heat, cutting, [nut]-splitting or soaking. The understandable impatience of the 'pro'-mechanic is precisely why I still work on my cars 20 years AFTER my pro-shop career transitioned. And every car-task I have set out to do - on my 1991, 2003, and 2008 cars - has been accomplished by my now 20+ sets of wrenches of every brand, bend, grip-tech and length. All for the equivalent cost of one set of Snap-On wrenches (or close to it).
I'm just here for Pushy!
Understood , it's a beast!
Amen Brother!
I got the Milwaukee’s just because i liked the design, they have not disappointed. Many times my FD+ just won’t do it and the milwaukees will. But as mentioned, the milwaukees won’t fit in the same places snappys will. They both serve their purpose, very well.
Love the Crescent brand. Good tools for not a steap price.
Those huskys are intriguing. There's definitely been a few times when 0 offset comes in handy. I'm concerned the directional box end could lead to accidental rounding.
Assuming their gimmick doesn't work just as well in reverse...
The Milwaukee set is insanely comfortable in the hand.
Agreed. Much easier on hand strain. The sort of loose tolerance on them also helps to release and reengage bolts. Sort of a "well engineered sloppy" fit for 95% of jobs.
It ought to be considering it's as wide as tennis racquet handle.
Torque Test, Just to let you know I ordered today the Husky Bite wrenches in metric and SAE for $39.97 for each set with free shipping.
Would like to see the capri Wave Pro wrench tested curious how it would rank on the list...
TTC gets a little PUSHY! 😂
Excellent testing! Thanks for sharing! 👍
I’d really like to see the new wrench dyno test wrenches that aren’t going to tear up fasteners. I don’t live in a rusty climate and can’t think of any time I’d need one of these style of wrenches.
I actually use 16 a fair bit, idk why but euro cars seem to use them for certain things like caliper carrier bolts etc.
Sets skipping sizes is the biggest "skip" in my book, especially for things like store brands where i can't always easily source the missing size
Hey if we leave out the most commonly used size for rusted out suspension systems we'll never have to warranty them...🤔🤣
Pretty sweet wrenches though 👍
I bought the Husky Bite wrenches specifically for the six point box end. It seems almost everything out there is 12 point. They do seem a bit gimmicky but I picked up a new set for $30, so no real loss if they don't perform.
I need something I feel a bit more confident in when using it to loosen up a nut/bolt/bleeder screw knowing it is less likely round over the fastener in question. My Milwaukee wrenches are fine for other jobs plus I can switch to a 12 point wrench, instead of using the six point Husky, once the fastener has been broken loose.
Gotta admit, that Milwaukee set is a decent deal
This is a great channel.
My vehicle requires 18mm wrenches to work on the suspension so I've had to buy a few of those to add to the tool sets I already had.
"pushes on the fastener without an opposing side to stop it..." Yes there is no opposing side but there is friction in the parallel flats. How much friction? Well it's going to be a small percentage of the perpendicular force. The perpendicular force is large so on paper it should offern an improvement. If it isn't significant in the results then something else is happening. On the wrenches with the little grooves maybe the V could help more. You would have to test the wrench, then grind out the V, then test again, in order to really know. I agree that it seems more like a gimmick but maybe more testing is required.
The 16mm not being there isn’t so bad but the 18mm is a crime. I use them all the time on my Toyotas.
I’d love to see WrightGrip tackle pushy. Last testing I saw showed 90% of snappy results for like 1/3 the price
Great and thorough testing. While I appreciate the strength and value of the Husky and Milwaukee they're just too thick for me and have too much slop. On a budget I'd probably be looking at the Icon set, but honestly speaking as a retired professional nothing is ever as sweet to use as the Snap On FD+. If you make a living doing this stuff it's the details and feel of day to day use that makes the difference and Snap on length, thickness, grip and feel check all the right boxes. Lots of great options these days for DIYers at all price points though.
Skips are a no go. I have the Icon with 40% off it’s hard to argue against. Picked up the craftsman overdrive this past holiday on the cheap too. I’ve always liked Milwaukee screwdrivers looks like the wrenches came to play.
These videos have made me want to go buy some new wrenches lol I’d love to see the Williams MWS-18A 18-Piece Super Combo Wrench Set
Get the facom 441s exactly the same as Mac rbrt but at 1/4 of the price best spanners money can buy
I've recently spent hundreds of dollars on Williams USA SuperCombo sets and the quality control for the plating inside the box ends is nonexistent!
Say what you will about husky tools for the home gamer working on his own stuff and having them readily available at a decent price they are hard to beat
For the $, availability, warranty and performance, that Husky set is hard to beat.
Been waiting for this one, just out of curiosity.
Thanks, I will be looking at the Craftsman Overdrive one I need a new set of wrenches.
Please do more flare nut wrenches. You never tested Husky brand. Also would appreciate it if you included the autopart store brands like Performance tool, Power Torque and Duralast to know how bad they are.
Very helpful suggestion...!!!
My Proto anti slip wrenches are where it’s at. I bought those based the original open end wrench throw down. I don’t even go for line wrenches anymore.
What is a line wrench?
@@mandapalque another term for a flare nut wrench
Good video. Can you test tekton wrenches next? They list their proof torque in their site so you could compare them.
Not sure they list proof torque for open end wrenches
@TorqueTestChannel oh you're right I was looking at the ratcheting box end. My apologies
Crazy the finish difference from the Cresent to the Husky being they are manufactured by the same company
Trouble is you never break loose fasteners with a open end wrench unless its the only way. In my 25 years as an auto tech it happened so few times they might as well be made from butter..
When I was a kid, we only had a crescent wrench, pliers and a hammer to work on bicycles and small gas motors... I rounded SO MANY fasteners, it was ridiculous...!!!
When I FINALLY acquired some proper tools, in my teens, I NEVER wanted to use ANYTHING OPEN END, ever again, LOL, and that mindset continues as an adult...!!!
Brake lines, fuel and fluid lines, plumbing, that's about IT...!!!
Can you do Carlyle anti slip? I got those for school and they were pretty expensive, but they have been my go to wrenches for sure!
Hmm, potential issue with the ranking methodology, tighter tollerance isn't a good thing when working on rusty stuff. Rust expands the steel so you want them to have a bit of give (after all 19.5mm sockets sell well due to rusted chrome lug nuts).
can confirm, the tight tolerances of the icon set can sometimes be a pain on really rotted crap
Would you ever consider testing the wrenches with only a fraction of the test fastener to bite onto (the hex stock only being 2 or 3 millimeters tall)? Then it could be a more level playing field when dealing with "which wrench gives the most torque from this limited bite."
I had to unscrew a 3/8in fine thread nut that only had a 1/8in of flats on it(this isn't a standard nut, it's part of a another mechanism). Of course, threads were tight and it only had a set of flats, no hex. That is a perfect example of when a harder, stronger wrench is perfect, as jaw spread could have easily caused issues with slipping off the nut.
Love your channel man
Didn't you tested the mactools rbrt wrenches? Why is it missing from the chart?
We've only had Pushy for a couple months, we did test like 50 brands by hand in the past though
Keep up the good work ...can you test the new kobalt 24v compact impact wrenches thanks
I'd like to see the box end of the Husky Bite tested.
16mm fasteners are very common on Chryslers, Nissans, VW’s, BMW’s and Audi’s
Great video. I’d like to see the “regular” icon wrenches (set 56611) since the anti slip did so well. I wonder how they’d compare and if they’d be good for times when you don’t want to damage the bolt/nut
Don't forget about Channel Locks with its "Anti-slip Grooves"
I can see skipping 9mm but 16mm and 18mm are fairly common sizes. Especially 18mm.
Is that a random allen key working as the hinge pin on that Husky set?
would love to see Max RBRT wrenches go head to head with Pushy.
Just for laughs, you should test Temu's wrench set..🤣
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Been waiting to see those wrenches. Wonder how the box end performs on the huskys. Also wonder how old made in the USA craftsman wrenches stack up to modern wrenches in general
Measuring stretch systematically would be good. If a wrench stretches meaningfully,, it's probably as much junk as if it had broken, as using up one wrench per nut is not usually good.
pml stop trying to look clever because in fact you look stupid
Kinda want to see how wright wrenches hold up. I don't know about antislip versions from them but I love my SAE and Metric sets I have.
Also no Extractor Wrenches, the closed end toothy ones that are MADE to not slip. A video towards messed up oil drain plugs and the wrenches associated 😊
With different measurement and rankings from your original rankings a few years back I'm not sure if the budget anti=slip wrenches actually grip better than my vintage Craftsman which were near the top of the rankings just below the professional Pronto, snap-on, mac... or if the budget anti-slips will just chew up nuts that could have been removed with a good conventional wrench.
I'd love to see Wright wrenches along side these
Do you guys get kincrome over there? Would be good to see that tested
You should test the capri wrenches
I just picked up a set of the Milwaukee wrenches for $44 on clearance at Home Depot, so hoping they do well lol.
I would love to see you test some auto parts brand tools. I work at O'Reilly and want to see where the PowerTorque series stands. Better or worse than Harbor Freight, Walmart, Home Depot, Lowe's, etc. Especially against AutoZone tools.
Thanks if you even consider this pleb request!
Test the same wrench twice to see how well wrenches stand up to repetitive use. Jaws spread after first slip ?
"Road salt renovated" lmao im gonna have to remeber that one
Ever since harbor freight started making good Pittsburgh tools i never waste money on expensive tools i dont need. Still have my original craftsman and gearwrench tools and 5 very specific snap on tools but HF is where its at. They even sell tool box inserts like cmon how do you beat that? Ive been happy using there diagnostic tools . They work well and dont stress me on the job or the wallet.
Am I the only one that thought out loud with the 19m Milwaukee wrench "Flip it Over!" to get it off the test hex? Might have to get a set of them. Always knew a thicker wrench gave more leverage. Taking out early Rover 1/4" fluid check plugs. They were square head but they would rust stuck and the only wrench with enough surface were over 1/4" thick.
One recommendation: When you do Rockwell hardness testing, you must grind off the coating to bare metal so the coating/plating doesn't obscure the results.
11:05 we do that since we got the device, there would be no point in measuring the finish hardness - that would be 1st class stupid move haha
@@TorqueTestChannel My apologies, I missed that! 🙃
I have ended up using my Milwaukee only on stuck fasteners. It damages nuts even in "normal" use.
Since you work for Astro, what happened to the extractor wrenches that were rebranded for Matco as well?
I got the metric set a while back, but needed the standard to get all the sizes. When I looked, it was discontinued
I wonder if the cheap Gearwrench bolt biters are a gimick. They're certainly cheap. I'm not sure if there are real brands that make similar products, however.
Can you test the napa Carlyle no slip wrenches?
no mac rbrt or torque plus or knuckle saver 2 in the test??? mac won other channels shoot outs 2 times now??
There still getting to those, but spoiler alert the rbrt is on top