Beauty and the Beast (2017) is TRASH
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Intro - 00:00
Plot - 02:17
Plot pt 2: Straight Outta Parents - 08:21
Characters - 09:45
Emma Watson - 17:21
Music - 22:25
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JLongbone honestly I would’ve made a better fucking Belle than Watson, I can _actually _*_sing_* ,
act, and hell I even _look_ more like the original character.
@@RinitaChan nobody cares
sharing the sheee-it out of your vids! please be exhorted!
I feel your pain. I've been working on a review for a terrible anime for a whole year. You did it though. Great review.
I love your editing man.
The only gay couple in this movie is Gaston and his reflection.
😂
Well, Luke Evans is gay, so
Gaston is gay for Gaston ONLY.
End of discussion.
wHeN wILL mY rEEEEfLECtiON shOWWW
wHO I Am *iiiiNSIIIIIIIDE*
@@omegamark9178 true
Emma should have played Gaston. She nailed the bloated ego and self-importance.
Greatsaiyakirby I’m crying xD
She didn't actually nail it, because that's just what she's like in real life, so she didn't have to act at all!
Girlston
😂🤣😂
No~ one~
Plots like Emma
Takes cheap shots like Emma
No one ruins every movie they're in like Emma🎶
The villagers didn’t hate Belle. They merely saw her as an oddity and were a bit curious about her. In the song, they say “I wonder if she’s feeling well”. I hate the remake.
Yea. I mean it's a small town that's comfortable in its patterned behavior. Belle isnt shes. Frustrated and curious and desperate for a new experience.
@come to order! C.G.:the Cartoon Judge! same. Being at home seeing the same thing can make u depressed and a little crazy.
@@nebula5371 They didn't watched it.
Exactly, was the whole point. The villagers represented the masses that couldn't think for themselves but could easily be scared into going on murderous manhunts. This was literally a close-minded "poor provincial town" where the residents never wandered out of their comfortable lives, never thought to question the prevailing views/beliefs. Belle explains all this in the song "Belle" where the live action movie chose to place all those hostile looking villagers.🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
@@destituteanddecadent9106 Except that the live action undoes all of that by stating that the village was under the Enchantress's spell of forgetting the castle and their loved ones that were servants at the castle. It made me think that they were mean to Belle because the Enchantress was setting up Belle to marry the Beast from the moment she got to the poor provincial town. And that they were small minded because they were literally missing large parts of their memories and angry and depressed because they knew something was missing but couldn't remember what.
F the Enchantress in this movie.
Belle didn’t fit in not because she was a “rebel”, she didn’t fit in because the people around her did not hold the same values she does. Belle is an introverted nerd who dreams about adventures and having almost fantastical life. Whereas the villagers don’t care, they’re quite happy with living a mundane life in a town they’ve been born and raised. Belle would find it impossible to talk to them and vice versa, but neither party really despise the other. That’s just human interactions.
Exactly. That's why the town despising her made no sense.
not in this movie
Her only friends in the beginning of the film were the sheep. Even she thinks talking to sheep who just wanna eat her book was more in her element than the townspeople. That was how our of place she was. Watching the animated movie again, they did imply that they somehow are sorta newcomers and were wanting a new life for themselves.
It isn't even just that. She kept her head in the clouds barely taking notice of things around her, she has a weird father who is WAY too old, and she hasn't really settled down at the age when she should have been. Then you add in that Belle is a knockout and could have ANY guy she wanted (rich or poor) and yet doesn't care.
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A big aspect of the movie is the fact that even the town doesn't look past Belle's appearance. If she was less attractive no one would have cared... Yet the town didn't have any antipathy towards Belle, they considered her a welcome member of their village.
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Yet the funny thing is the NEW Beauty and the Beast... Belle and her Father... really hate the village and consider them ignorant poor people... (Hey Hollywood projecting much?). You know, that one thing Belle is supposed to look past?
@@Nionivek Yeah Belle never had any animosity towards the townspeople as much as the vice versa. In fact from her song in the animated version she considers them basic but accepts it as their way. The LA Movie, you can see there is animosity from both sides. Though in a cause-and-effect way the town hatin on Belle was because of the Enchantress' magic, not because they lived basic.
"This is not about you", said Emma Watson. And then, proceeded to make everything about her.
IKR
modern day textbook neo-feminist
people still say sjw nowadays?? I thought that stupid word died in 2016
@@deepfriedspaghetti982 Guess you were wrong.
@@sweetmama4491 unfortunately........
The village folk didn't dislike her in the original. They were worried about her.
Her reading wasn't an issue, it's a useful skill and wasn't that uncommon at the time. The issue with the reading was twofold.
1. The degree to witch she read. We see her reading as she walks the streets barely looking up like a modern day cell phone zombie. We get the feeling that she does not have much of a social life in the village, ironically not made better by her shutting everyone out with her obsessive reading habit. She uses the bookstore like a library, one that she has read everything in multiple times.
2. What she reads. In the animated original we see her lend a book from the bookstore and read to some sheep. But the story she reads is a fairy tale, a children's story.
The village folk are worried about her because she is to them what a teen in the 90s or 00s who locked themselves away in their room to watch anime was to their parents and community.
They worry that once she grows out of her obsession she will be to old to score a good husband to raise a family with, which they as traditional townsfolk see as the best way for a woman to a happy life. Something the story pretty much shows is what she chooses in the end but with Beast rather than anyone from the village, but we can't really blame the villagers for not considering Beast as marriage material when he was a well, beast, and they didn't even know he existed.
Belle also sings about wanting something more than the quiet village life, something pretty much every villager has wished for at some point in their youth. That combined with her obsession with children's stories have them concerned about her being stuck in a childlike mentality, perhaps from not having her mother around, only her eccentric inventor father, and really even today we don't expect fathers to be able to raise children as and daughters especially as well as mothers.
Consider what they see of her; a young woman who shuts others out, hides away in fairy tales and has the daydreams of a child about exciting adventures. To them she looks like someone living with a trauma keeping her at least partially mentally adolescent.
They consider her odd and strange but they worry about her, maybe pity her but there is no dislike or malice.
Well written 👏🏼
Well said I see the story differently now.
Don't get me wrong I never thought that the village hated her but I never thought that they may worry that she would be stuck with a childlike mentality I always just thought that the town thought she was weird for reading all the time.
I won't be surprised if the picking of chidren book is the result of it being a movie for children. In German version she reads Romeo and Juliet. Maybe wanted to give something familiar.
About the others worrying about her: some just think she's snobbish and weird. Most of them actually. I think more they pity her than worry.
To be honest I think they consider strange that a girl this young and beauty could find interesting reading more than guys (like the three blondies) or work.
But despite her being so weird in their eyes, they were somewhat attracted to her and her different attitude. They were curious about her and her weirdness, watching at her smiling and singing how much unique she was. They have NEVER hated her.
Just Gaston wanted her to stop reading because he doesn't consider it right for a woman because "it's not right for a girl to have ideas".
I think it was just a representation of how people only tend to look at the outside, which was the entire point of this story: there is more than meets the eye. So the townsfolk are these people who just live their lives according to society's standards and don't question anything. Then comes this girl who reads and has ideas, opinions and imagination. Of course they find that odd. They find it strange that a beautiful young woman doesn't want to marry a handsome young man. They find it strange that she seeks adventure and excitement instead of settling down and have children and be a doting wife. They find it strange that she is willing to give up a life of easy comfort, safety and familiarity. They find it strange that she chooses to be odd, chooses to be herself and not conform to the standard ideas of what a woman should be of that time period.
The message of Belle is that you shouldn't to give up yourself in order to fit in, that it's ok to not fit in and that you don't have to be ashamed of it. Never lose your hopes and dreams go just because others have different opinions of it. Follow your own path and stay true to who you are, write your own story, as did Belle.
The message of the townsfolk is that they are willing sheep, slaves of fashion; only liking things when everybody does, only listening to the handsome strong guy cause he seems to know what he's talking about. The townsfolk are designed to be surfaced, it mirrors our own society.
"You have this great allstar cast" *blurs out Emma Watson*
Lol! I noticed that too. Loved it. 😂
timestamp?
@@vilmavenla 5:24
Yes definitely blur her out
Emma Watson cannot sing. She's auto tuned in this movie and she still sounds terrible
Do what High school musical did, and have Belle lip sync to someone else's vocals 🤷🤦
I also hate that Belle is portrayed as "Different" because she was "born in the city." Because you know... People can't feel like outcasts in the town they were actually born in. That NEVER happens!
Amanda Pike As someone who comes from a small town. You can indeed feel like an outcast. The community is small and most people know each other so if you are different from everyone else everyone in that town will ignore you unless it's their job to have to talk to you.
powerstar 2028 I agree sometimes xD
Hannah Papernick-Yudin The creators obviously have never been to a small town or lived in one.
Tbh you’re actually more likely to be outcast cuz there’s less people.
In big cities there’s loads of people so at some point you’re guaranteed to run into someone.
Amanda Pike Are you sure about that people be unable to feel like outcast in there own town ? big OOF
@LadyAmaltheaUnicorn You dense bitch - Belle has always been from a city, even in the original 1740 version. It's only the Disney version that omitted that.
Wanna read a good joke???
The lion king remake being called live action.
Spoilers, it's shit
@@ayonc2575 shit? SHIT? BRO shit has smell and certain displeasure toward it. Lion King has nothing of it, it bland as fuck, boring as hell and pretty sure the wall i falcon punch of pure rage againts that train wreck (which i deny to call movie) felt more than anyone ever could feel with Lion King. As of matter of facts: it make me feel something, i feel sadness, rage and depression.
soulXstar720 your right. Shit, literal shit, is more entertaining than the new lion king.
Pffffffff everything about this thread
The only good thread on youtube, besides the ones in dr sax love's videos
I actually like Gaston in this movie, because the actor seemed to be enjoying himself. He must be the only one not bored to death
Yeah Luke Evans did really well as Gaston.
IMO he was the best part of the remake
He was actually the only character that I was satisfied with in the remake
I feel like it was so unnecessarily creepy of him to grab her though, whereas the rest of the time he's just... eh. Not like Gaston.
He was having a BLAST. You can tell from the behind the scenes footage.
Lefou was totally gay the whole time.
Thats why he ogles the bimbettes and attempts to impress them at every chance he gets during the original movie.
"You like looking at girls, mate? You're really just gay." - Fanficcers and SJWs.
i was literally watching it with my sis, and i turn to her and say “thats dudes gay,right?” and she goes “idk lol”
Lefou acting as Gaston's yes man wasn't because, I dunno, Lefou was little and benefited from a brawny dude beating up everyone else. It *must* have been sexual attraction.
@come to order! C.G.:the Cartoon Judge! So, you have a problem with Obi-wan mind-raping Stormtroopers, right? Because you're consistent and not a massive hypocrite reading rape metaphors which don't exist into a magical kids movie, right? Into a scene which is intended to be intimate and set up a mutual kinship which eventually becomes a romance? I mean, you posted this moronic 2016 take in 2020 so maybe you're too far gone, but consider that every subsequent moment between those characters validates the reading you are mocking while literally nothing has ever validated yours except your furious desire to make ever female character a victim.
@come to order! C.G.:the Cartoon Judge! So taking someone's free will away is good guy stuff but reading someone's mind is rape. Sure. Hey remember when Rey beat up Luke for Ben Solo's sake because she realises he was the one Luke let down not the other way around? Remember when Rey held his hand in front of a fire? Remember when she frenched him? But it's totally not delusional of you to say their dynamic wasn't meant to be romantic. Totally.
*"Bell has become you know more of an Activist"* ... So Watson wanted her personal life in this story.
women always do
@Truth-Rationale Scientist Mackenzie Foy, in two years, will be a perfect Belle, even on the inventor standards that Emma claimed to be... Liked it in the imperfect Nutcracker...
If it was based on her life belle would just bitch on Twitter all day in between blowing guys
Still "been Activist" is not personality... it's character trope...
Women always want everything to be about them.
17:44 WTF? BELLE wasn't feminist enough? Bro she was already one of the strongest female characters in movie history, she became a prisioner to save her father, and instead of acting all salty and bitchy she never ONCE was impolite or unfair to the folks from the castle that were nice to her, and opened her heart to see past Beast's rude behavior and look into his mind. She was smart, compassionate, fair, independent... just because she did not weild a sword doesn't mean she was weak.
You see, Emma's idea of a feminist is a female who gets everything they want.
Belle was feminist, because she learns to boys to respect women as the equal they want on their sides. Totally a game changer in animation business, like Princess Leia in SF fantasy.
And she literally saves the prince with a true love kiss, SHE IS THE FUCKING HERO
Mulan still more epic though.
@@bobthet-rex2718 Of course, because it's more war oriented than BatB who stills a good romance, after all.
I know im late to the party but in my opinion, they kinda ruined Belle. Belle was very kind and sweet in the cartoon. She wasnt afraid to stand up for herself, but she maintained her kindness, compassion, and empathy at all times. This kindness allowed for her to fall in love with the beast, because she could tell he was hurt and she could see the goodness within him. I have a hard time beliving Emma Watson's Belle would ever love the beast. She would see him as an animal, a evil wicked thing. Emma Watson's Belle tried to escape from the castle, while the original Belle toughed it out and lived up to her word. The original Belle had more strength and substance. She was a female i loved to look up to because she remained kind throughout it all, but she wasn't a doormat. Emma Watsons Belle is too tough, and too stubborn. I wish they hadnt of changed her.
There are a lot of things i didnt like about this film, and im sad because beauty and the beast is my favorite disney film
I second that
I agree big time
News Flash: First "openly" gay character is a DISNEY VILLAIN.
WHOOPS!!!
Also his name is LeFou, which if i remember correctly means The Fool....
@@adamb2216
Ouch... Disney's lucky casual movie-goers they aim for are dumber than bricks otherwise we'd have a problem...
also, the only time we even get a hint towards him being gay is at the end where he dances with a man as an accident because he and the other may have done the dance wrong and thus ending up with each other.
And he's only gay because he was a shameless groveler, who allowed Gaston to abuse him apparently because he was in love with him.
But the older Disney villains especially males had that gay touch to it because they that it was taboo at the time examples Ursula entire design was based off a drag queen scar and the villain from Pocahontas was very very flamboyant I mean “LOOK HOW I GLITTER!” all the older villains just had that touch of gay so it make sense they do the first “openly” gay character as a villain side kick
Please, tell me both their mothers name was Martha.
I had such a laugh from your comment!
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!!!!
*How do you Know Martha?*
I vote that all dead moms in Disney movies that aren't called by their name in the movie are now called MARTHA!!!
HAHAHA Do You Bleed?
Is anyone gonna talk about belle’s house? Remember in the original her house was outside the village in a beautiful open field, but in the remake it’s literally stuffed in the crowded village
Agree. The fact that the house was outside the village in the animation was actually quite symbolic.
Pffftt who needs important symbolism and subtle storytelling when we can just lazly throw in a cramp set design so we don't have to spend extra money on extra cg or a new location...
Cause she's a city girl. Can't be made to look like some poor peasant. My God that would almost Imply that she did Chores and "Women" things. No No No she's from the city and modern. She's literally at the forefront of technology inventing shit.
Kind of akward, if you think about it.
Yeah I hated the changes they made >_
"it's Orange Fanta"
Me: Thats not so bad i love Fanta
"LUKEWARM Orange Fanta"
Me: OH GOD
I'll do you one better lukewarm DIET Fanta
@@burntgrahamcracker2866 STOP! STOP IT!!!! T____T
@@burntgrahamcracker2866 *hot* diet *red* Fanta
@@ebi_tempura 🤢
The exact point
In the original, Beast roaring after Belle leaves is so heart wrenching. After finally finding love and true meaning, he has to let her go for her father's sake. Very little words need to be said, and he's a monster so it's fitting!
But nah, instead we get *forva-moOOOOOAAARRRrrr*
Ikr so cringe.
I laughed out loud because that comment is so funny but you‘re so damn right 😂
i mean you kind of got a roar out ever ever moar....
Personally, I think it's a good song, but I understand what you're saying.
I said the exact same thing when my family and I watched this dumpster fire- that roar was essentially the sound of Beast's heart breaking as he lets go of the thing he loves the most _(and_ his ticket to being human again) so she can go help her father. The roar was one of the most raw and powerful moments in classic Disney, *and* later played into Gaston propagandizing to the villagers about how vicious the Beast was. A perfect example of show, don't tell. The remake decided to have him spell it out for us in song. I'm not totally knocking the song, I somewhat enjoy some of the covers I've heard of Evermore, but as a storytelling device in the remake, it falls completely flat.
i dont understand why they made Le fou gay in the live action , in the cartoon i always saw him as a fanboy sidekick because gaston was the village hero , he never showed any kind of sexual attraction to gaston just being a huge fan
also writters need to stop writting characters like their personallity is their sexuality , it never make for good characters , sexuality of a character should be secondary to its flaws , traits and personallity
If anything, LeFou was more like an admiring little brother/sidekick to Gaston. I never saw him as being gay for him, more like he wanted to be as cool as everyone thought Gaston was.
Agreed! Like I says they make a bad image of homosexual and bisexual people by this toxic generalization there is more to us than our sexuality for goodness sake.
too bad that probably wont stop as long as writters etc dont understand that pandering is forced because they decide to put womens , minorities or gay characters not as characters that happen to be female , black or gay for exemple , but as the gender , race or the sexuality of the character is more important than the rest of it , because they think this will make peoples want to Watch their movies or play their games more , i miss the before 2000's times
They made him gay because it was the safest option but completely forgot the fact that Le Fou is comic relief and would simply be another funny gay comic relief character that's prevalent in a lot of media that just shoehorns in a gay character. Disney though they were being all up for representation, and everyone, even the LGBT community, was baffled because they didn't ask for a gay character nor did they want ''representation'' to just be another dumb comedic trope. There was no point in doing it, but they wanted to do it because they thought it would be trendy with the current political climate. That's it: it's Disney being short sighted and stupid.
@Scout Silvaru Yup. The little dude wanted to get some.
The Gaston song scene is ruined without Gaston lifting the girls on the seat and throwing eggs into his mouth
Well, you can't blame them for being normal human being. Sure, this movie has its flaws but not finding a superman is reasonable flaw. He did put one of the girls and Lefou on his sholders. That's totally something worth mentioning
Yeah! He's not even remotely roughly the size of a BAAAARGE
@Hannah Papernick-Yudin Hence the core problem with making live-action versions of films that were originally ANIMATED. The live-action counterparts will always feel like pale imitations by comparison.
@Hannah Papernick-Yudin It also highlights the flaw of the medium. You can only do so much with a live-action setting; especially when you're trying to follow up something animated.
@Hannah Papernick-Yudin Both points apply TENFOLD for the upcoming "Lion King" remake.
Gaston and The Beast were the same type of person, when they were both introduced in the 90's animated movie, they both thought Belle was a "prize to be won" (which oddly was a plot point in numerous 90's Disney movies). While the Beast changed himself for Belle and learned to be a better person gaining back his humanity at the end. Gaston learned nothing and went to destroy everything and everyone belle loved because he couldn't have her, becoming more of a "beast". They sort of "switched" places at the end of the movie. Gaston became a "Beast" and The Beast became a "Man" (Which again is another plot point that Disney used several times during the 90's). The 2017 Movie had none of this subtlety and/or nuance to it's story and it is completely forgettable like ALL the live action Disney Remakes.
Neil Price say it louder
To be fair, the Beast himself didn’t think so highly of himself and never thought he was worthy of anyone, let alone Belle. If anyone had the “prize to be won” mentality, it was Lumiere. When the Beast began to realise that his actions have consequences, that’s when he started to make the changes in himself.
Gaston (that fucking asshole) on the other hand … was always TFA. Belle’s persistent nos and seeing the Beast as competition just brought that inner ugliness more to the front.
It's less of the Beast viewing her as a prize and more of the Beast viewing her as a means to an end, the end being him becoming human again. His decision to let Belle go to save her father, without any strings attached is the main thrust of his arc, as this decision helps Belle at the cost of his own goals.
The irony of that “discrimination against Belle for teaching a girl to read“ thing is that reading was perfectly normal for women in the French countryside of the 18th century. In fact the original French story of Beauty and the Beast premiered in a women’s magazine. The movie sidesteps the very real issue of racism that existed at the time but completely invents prejudice against women for reading because, as we all know, white women are more oppressed than black people 😐.
Disney should've done some research, or I dunno
Used common sense
Exactly. It was even looked down upon if you didn't teach your kids to read and write or get them a tutor. To become a gentleman or gentlewoman you *had* to know good penmanship and how to read and how to figure. Heck if you were lucky you even got to learn other languages like Latin or English (if you were in France anyway). It just baffles me that people still think that people didn't know how to read or write in the 1700s, like yeah they knew! There weren't typical schools like now but if your parents didn't teach you something you'd be failed for life! They always started teaching them to read by reading from the Bible. That was the easiest way!
I personally think that politics should just stay the fuck out of kids movies. I didnt give two shits about womans issues as a kid. And i didnt even know racism was a thing when i was a kid. Dat shit can wait until i have to pay taxes and can vote
This actually would have been the only remake where making the main character black might have fit.
Bro you’re all overthinking this crap, kids probably didn’t even know this took place in France, and nobody made this big a deal about the original or the book it was based off of. Y’all just hate disney tbh.
Also, I will forever be MAD at Emma Watson for making Belle’s yellow dress look like a freaking thrift store prom dress. Where was the gorgeous Rococo gown that the beginning scene got me excited for??
Josh Groban was the only good part of this movie.
EDIT: Also, Emma Watson clearly knows NOTHING about corsets, any corsetier would tell you that corsets aren’t restrictive. More women fainted from heatstroke during the Victorian and Rococo time periods than by not being able to breathe. You’re not supposed to tighten a corset to where you can’t breathe, and most ladies back in the day didn’t. Cartoons of the era have swayed our modern perspective of the corset. It’s just shapewear. Seriously. Shapewear with metal in it.
imagine if they just CGIed her dress. that would be a cool way to show off the technology and probably be actually doable... unlike trying to make a whole realistic CGI animal.
That would have been awesome. I wish they would have at least kept the costume designer from Cinderella, she knew how to make princess gowns look absolutely magical.
But you don't understaaaaand a Rococo dress would have required a corsage and corsages are a superbad example for little girls.
Even though the little girls wouldn't even know it and children's costumes wouldn't micic it either, but it's baaaaad because reasons.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to prance through the town with my dress stuck into my panties, like a true feminist icon.
There's also the fact she demanded they use...GLITTER....GLITTER...on the fucking dress. GLITTER! NOT EVEN COSPLAYERS USE FUCKING GLITTER! That's why it looks dull and plain, the design on it was done in GLITTER, which doesn't reflect cock all when it comes to lighting. The question is why she, an actor, was allowed to over rule over somebody who's profession is to MAKE COSTUMES!
Shatterstar YES. No appliques, no beading, no embroidery? It’s going to look cheap as heck.
That scene where Belle was teaching the girl to read really bugs me because it ignores the history. In 1740 (when Beauty and the Beast was written) twenty five percent of all women could read. There were even womans magazines being published. And the Beauty and the Beast novel (which pre-dates the faery tale) was written by a woman. When one fourth of all women could read in France in that era (and not just the large cities), there's no way in Hell they'd have reacted to her simply teaching a child to read.
It depends on many things. Belle was from a small town. In Paris it probably wouldnt happen.
Amanda Pike Completely agree. And thank you for the cool historical info! I’m always here for history buffs! That part felt like a heavy-handed attempt to depict the oppression of women and cement Emma/Belle’s status as Super Awesome Female Role Model by someone who has only a rough, stereotype-ridden idea of “olden times” as universally backward in all things.
And to answer the other commenter, I doubt a remote town’s ethos and customs would be so profoundly unlike those of the capital. Again, it’s 18th-century France, not 8th-century Francia. Sure, boys’ educations were prioritized over those of their sisters, and unless they belonged to a Jewish family with a business, girls’ educations did not have a professional application outside the home, which was itself a plus. (But this is a Disney movie, so there are no Jews, anyway...) It’s totally fair to show the boys heading to school while girls of a certain class did menial labor-but if attainable/economical, literacy was a valuable asset for a woman, not least as a means of achieving moral and religious improvement.
I’m kind of in two minds about it because it’s eye-rollingly ham-fisted but also this is a weird fantasy France so yeah.
Yeah, the whole point on Belle reading and being considered weird for it is because it was all fantasy novels she had her nose stuck in to and was ignoring reality to such a degree that she doesn't acknowledge anybody or anything going on around her other than her book, not because she was able to read.
I think they were trying to falsely equate 18th-century French society with something like modern-day Boko Haram society, because as we all know "Traditional Western Culture Bad" and "No women had rights until 1973". Meanwhile, I guarantee you that the live-action "Aladdin" will be "woke" AF, with half the shops in the bazaar being run by women, half the guards in the Sultan's palace being women, and a big to-do made about how cultured and cosmopolitan and respected Jasmine is by all, her only restriction in the world being that she's royalty. Jasmine's gender probably won't even come up once...and while it didn't in the animated original, neither did Belle's, originally! We'll see that "gritty period realism" regarding gender roles disappear _real quick,_ once we're talking about a fairy tale set in the Middle East!
@@edoboleyn Disney had Jewish animated characters as early as 1978's THE SMALL ONE short subject, even if they were bringing a donkey to Mary and Joseph. In live-action, they made a TV movie in 1988 called A FRIENDSHIP IN VIENNA with Ed Asner and Jenny Lews about a Jewish girl and a Christian girl who were friends in Nazi-era Germany. Walt Disney certainly didn't mind casting Jews, seeing how many times he cast Ed Wynn in stuff.
The thing is, with the reading thing, girls were already reading during that time period. The original Beauty and the Beast story was published in a girl’s magazine, so honestly, this scene is insulting to logic, history, and the original author.
To be fair, not many care about real history. They'd take their volumes of women's history by feminists instead of reading Regine Pernoud or Daniel Roche.
"What about the new generation?"
What about them? Don't they deserve better or is any regurgitated material fine?
if you ask me, it’s frankly disrespectful to the new audience’s intelligence to keep making this trite nonsense of a remake instead of giving them new stories to enjoy
@@hecklife6636 And assuming that newer generations lack interest in Disney animated classics.
Every remake that comes out are just complete trash. If I ever get kids, I'll for sure let them watch old Disney and classics, because they are so much better than this newer trash. I don't get the same feeling with the live versions, not at all. But as people say, remakes are always worse than the original.
@@accountnolongerinuse2044 again, nostalgia kill people opinion
My future child will grow up with the classics, it's that simple
This movie doesn't get that the town didn't think Belle was weird cause she was 'too feminist' or a 'girl' reading. They just thought reading was a weird thing to be preoccupied with in general. As Lindsey Ellis put best in her video essay "they're a poor prevential town, they take everything at face value". They're simple-minded and superficial, to them that's what matters and that's why it's baffling to them that someone, especially like Belle, could have such a heavy interest in anything but. They don't deteste Belle for this or think 'women need to be put back in their place', they view Belle as just, as the opening song puts it "very different from the rest of us".
btw "let me fornicate in dem fallopians" is something I will be using often from now on.
Until 19th & 20th mechanization, countryside french peoples was too busy with daily routine task to have some time to read. Even until 1950's, parents asked to their child to ditch school to work in harvesting campaigns... Theren't no reasons to turn it in New England Puritans in the Live Action, except to push the american audience in a sort of "comfort zone".
ballon fly is disagree, at least from Gaston’s character. I think they went more extreme with the town also having this distrust of women reading in the remake because it’s live action. It’s based a cartoon, it needs to have some grit and relevance to modern topics of interest. Gaston actually says something along the lines of “women shouldn’t read, because then they get ideas, thinking...”
And belle says “Gaston, you’re positively prime evil.”
I just think this movie gives an updated, and maybe bolder stance on what the original at least hinted at. It’s still Disney.
But for those reasons, I can see why someone wouldn’t like the movie, I guess.
SketchTheParadigm York Gaston isn’t supposed to be representative of the town as a whole though. Gaston is more representative of a pretty face and charm for people to be taken in by while not knowing the hidden maliciousness behind it. If you could call anyone sexist in the original, yes it would be Gaston. If you want to update the topic Gaston character would be the one to go for it with. Regarding the town itself, Belle doesn’t fit in not because she’s too progressive and they want to push her down for being feminist, but rather because she is unsatisfied with a lifestyle the town is more that content with so much so that they don’t understand why anyone would want anything more. Making the town more sexist is just a confusing change that the movie doesn’t even care enough about to expand on beyond one silly poorly dialogued scene that is so minuscule in importance that they don’t even bother to carry that ‘bolder stance’ on to Gaston, the only true character that change would be logical towards. Plus it’s beauty and the beast, people were going to flock to this movie like flies to rotten meat regardless. No one was going to be boycotting if this movie didn’t have a ‘bolder stance on sexism’, this movie had no requirements other than to be cohesive and competent in comparison to the original.
ballon fly that’s why my first sentence literally says “at least from Gaston’s character”
I just think they tried to flesh out the town more than the original, and some people didn’t like how they did it, which is fine 🤷🏻♂️
Also, Emma was offered Cinderella, and turned down because she didn’t feel it would be a good role, and that she could relate to belle more.. I think it’s fine that she added to the creative process, they weren’t offensive changes to the original, in my opinion. 🤷🏻♂️
I just don’t think it was “garbage” but I can see why some people might not like the direction or change.
It’s also weird to say “the movie doesn’t get” because like I said, both movies are made by Disney... I think that kinda literally gives them the right to do whatever they want with the rights they own.
But still, that I’m not saying you have to like it, I understand your issues with the movie
"If it isn't 'baroque', don't fix it!"
Nice Rob Walker reference
AS YOU WERE!
@@fusselmietz5929 it's a quote from the original film.
I like how Belle is supposed to be more of an "activist", but does nothing to help the woman literally described as "BEGGING for scraps". Very nice.
Isn't that what an activist does? Demand someone else do something, and shy away from the opportunity to do it herself?
I don't think she and her father are swimming in that much cash. What did you expect her to do? Tell the crazy town that throws her laundry in the street for teaching a girl to read to start a food bank?
The Rock would’ve been better as Gaston despite him not being white.
I would kill to see that now. I can already imagine the delight of seeing the Rock juggle eggs while they sing a song about him, with that cocky smile of his. ☺️
THIS!
Agree 100% percent, I would see that.
Henry Cavill.
Meh, it's a fairy tale and the rest of the town aren't completely white, the only worry is that The Rock wouldn't come across as a duche enough like the original, then again I ain't seen that much of his filmography n shit, so maybe it could have worked
It was also Gaston in the movie who blatantly said towards Belle, "first women begin reading then suddenly they'll start to get ideas and thinking...?!" The village people were never mean towards her just cause she's a girl and reads, they thought she was just odd. Since she avoided social things and had her head up in the clouds, they did not know how to really approach her.
DororoXPenana in the remake they actually had me rooting for Gaston because he wanted to protect her lol. But he suddenly becomes a huge ass and abandons her dad? It’s like they realized they weren’t doing him right from the start but left the bit where he was looking out for her lol
To add to your point, near the end of the song where they sing that she's strange but special, they're actually smiling. They acknowledge that she's beautiful but kind of weird with the whole reading thing
@@nahime4204 That whole movie is bs.
Not to mention that in France at the time when the movie was set women were encouraged to read. Fun fact the original Beauty and the Beast story was found in a popular women's magazine at the time. But apparently, Disney couldn't even do a 10th-grade level research about their source material.
The book was even written by a female.
Yeah and even if people would argue saying that it's not the case for a little village, it's actually bullshit. Plus there's a bookshop, a school and even a hat store. The only places where reading would have seemed useless were the agricultural areas which is not the case of the village. So, yeah, Disney did shit.
The Black Plague also screws up the timeline of the game. Wasn't it much earlier in history than when this story takes place?
We got an Anachronism Stew over here, y'all.
Hate misinformation in movies. And if you pay attention you will see it everywhere even in movies that aren't bad.
lkr women at that time will has thay hair hidden in they wig or hat.
if you didn't that mean you are telling man that they can fuck you and bell didn't wore anything !
you know why the town hate her? because they think she a pormiscuous!
(sorry for some shitty gramma)
A black person who aknowledge the history instead of demanding a black character in every movie, no matter how accurate it is or not? Dude, you have a HUGE respect from me. You're awesome.
I was thinking the same thing.
This movie was not that fun
I remember when Emma was good
Elsa from Frozen was never gay, not having a love interest does not makes the character gay
ikr? Elsa is perfect in the way she is. Her being asexual makes more sense than her being lesbian.
I used to be one these "they gay" people
I feel ashamed of my past self
I mean, I know I’m straight but I do not have a boyfriend. Not having a boyfriend or showing interest in pursuing a romantic relationship doesn’t make me gay. I’m a bit ambivalent towards romance because my parents split up. Elsa suffered trauma from the fear of freezing someone and her parents died when she needed them.
Ace!!!
I hate her character, but it's really annoying to see people trying to make her a lesbian.
She keeps thinking she needs to steal from other characters to make her character better. As Belle she stole Maurice's job and as Hermione she stole alot of moments and lines from Ron.
Owl Face sadly yes
Ron becomes a petulant bitch in the last 4 films, thanks to screenwriter’s preference on Hermione
@@nont18411 Well in book 6 and 7 Ron wasn't there. In the book 7 he literally wasn't there.
You do know that actors don't write the script?
@afootineachworld
Well, but the movies portray *Snape* better than in the books. In the books it was to much of a plot twist, while in the movies you could actually understand why Harry named his son after him.
The relationship between Harry and Sirius, Harry and Hermione and Harry and Luna was EXCELLENT in the movies. But the relationship between him and Ron was TERRIBLE. Also Prisoner of Azkaban was great !
"Emma Watson is trash."
Best sentence in the entire review. KUDOS!
OMG!!! You are more right than I originally gave you credit for! Seeing her in these scenes, and seeing how they made this movie STRICTLY about EMMA FUCKING WATSON makes me sick to my stomach. Also, the bitch cannot SMILE. She's got this smirk that makes me want to just backhand her until I can't backhand her anymore. This creature shouldn't be a thing that anyone gives 2-cents about.
That about sums everything up. She absolutely sucks at acting, and the only thing she's remotely good at is being hot eye candy!
Exactly! I love Disney, especially old Disney and DAMN she ruined it all. She just happened to be in HP for some stupid reason.
I hated her in Harry Potter and I still hate her now. Plus, outside of the “characters” she plays, she’s annoying as hell.
she is so overrated .-.
Wasn't the reason that Lefou stayed around Gaston was because he admired him and considered him his best friend, and why Gaston always had Lefou around was because even though he got beat up a lot, he respected Lefou as a friend and basically considered him "second in command"? There was no gay overtones in the original Disney movie. I always fucking hated that this movie just changed him to be gay "just because". I mean yeah Lefou was a boot licker basically, but Gaston always knew he could count on Lefou.
Also the fact that Emma Watson was so offended by the original Disney Belle that she made her an inventor and made Maurice a sad widower instead of an inventor only shows that once again feminism can only be something if they take it away from a man. In fact Maurice was very upbeat and even had an nickname "Crazy Old Maurice" because the village considered him crazy for working on so many inventions. So I guess it's Crazy Young Emma Watson now, makes sense.
I don't care how often they say it, Lefou WASN'T always gay. It adds nothing to the plot or character in this film, and it makes no sense. It's like they mixed up bootlicker with 'oh man I want him to ride me like a horse!' without bothering to realize that he was like a fanboy. He looked up to gaston and would do anything for him, but that doesn't mean he wanted the D.
I don't see why people are saying he's gay
Like everytime anyone interacts in a platonic way or any interaction at all with anyone, people always have to be like:
"OMG THEIR FLIRTING"
"OMG HE OR SHE IS GAY"
"THIS PERSON IS IN LOVE"
It’s like they were trying to give them a Smithers-Burns sort of dynamic and failed HARD. Smithers is a bootlicking assistant first. He’s definitely gay, but his dialogue with Mr. Burns has subtle humor that establishes him as a toady before everything else. Here, Lefou’s just in love, I guess, and there’s no subtlety or humor to it.
@@daniboy4153 ikr. *septiplier flashbacks*
I agree with you 100%
The thing that bothers me the most is that there are a lot of Harry Potter fans who say "Emma Watson was the best casting choice because Belle and Hermione have so many things in common!!!"
The only thing Belle and Hermione have in common is love for books. Like, seriously. They're completely different.
This film shouldn't be called "Beauty and the Beast", it should be called "Hermione Granger and some furry jerk"
The moment I lost full interest in this film is when they played “Be our guest” they went hard on the CGI to make the musical sequence look as bombastic as possible and all Emma Watson did was sit there and give a half lidded smile. Like, bitch? Hello???
Original belle was dancing along and having fun but Emma Watson looked awkward and bored out of her mind
Greg Elchert she’s an actor, people have love scenes with green screens.
@Aware Have you ever seen a hardcore feminist have fun? Like, actual fun? Even the _concept_ of fun is completely incompatible with the "I must hate literally everything that doesn't revolve around me" worldview.
And the worst thing is that (somebody told me) they ACTUALLY TOLD HER to be like that during the song I-
Ikr. Emma could’ve dance a little during the song. It almost like she didn’t want to be there. Girl, you lived in a magical castle where a singing candlestick is busting the moves. Like seriously.
Another question :
Who tf let Emma decide what directors and designers did ? Like corsets where not sexist, they were modest undergarments that made women feel comfortable and be sure that her boobs willl stay in the same place , plus why didn't they just write :
Belle's loving father as the inventor he was invented the washing machine to help his daughter into having more free time to read , learn and help other people?
the answer is: women empowering. She needed to be able to do things herself, her intelligence needs to surpass others and that's it. yep, pretty sure the writers really thought that while showcasing Belle's prowess.
A well-fitted corset didn’t squeeze the crap out of women. To them, it was a bra. Just like with a bra, you have to find a well-fitting one to get the benefits of the garment. Emma seems to be historically illiterate.
@@khfan4life365 truly, aren't you meant to research a bit before portraying g a character set in a specific time period?
@@reginaphalange9417 Men also wore corsets though it slowly started to become unpopular during the 1800's. I think a scene in Versailles they showed them putting on the men corsets.
I don't know for the first question, but for the second:
BECAUSE THEN IT WOULD MAKE ACTUAL FUCKING SENSE. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT WE CAN'T HAVE COHERENT PLOTPOINTS IN DISNEY FEMENIST -PROPOGANDA- I MEAN MOVIE...
Belle isn’t meant to be some radical confident kid who strides to the beat of her own drum. She was shy and withdrawn, that’s what she learnt to overcome. She wasn’t happy being different and wanted to be liked. Over the course of the story she learnt to be confident and to stand up for herself.
Does Disney know you shouldn’t start your story with your character already being perfect?
Mah
Rey
Sooooooooooooo
Remember when the village just thought Belle was weird because she was a hardcore bookworm, and when Belle just felt dissatisfied with her humdrum life?
WAY too much unnecessary CGI, a poorly cast Belle who couldn’t sing or act, a beast that wasn’t scary looking AT ALL, a weak Gaston, pushing political tropes every 5 minutes, extra story plots that weren’t needed/or didn’t make sense,.
And forcing it to be a musical...
That’s why we liked the remake of Cinderella so much - good casting, no musical, no politics, no crap, just a beautiful artistic rendition of a classic. Please make more of those.
Seass cinderella live action was boring as fuck, if youre just gonna do what the animated version did whats the point in that
@@revlo8483 I personally enjoy both versions of Cinderella for different reasons. The original for the art and all the side characters while the remake is enjoyable because you actually see the two mains chemistry together instead of the falling instantly in love. I'm not saying one is better than the other (I'd actually have to rewatch both to figure it out), but both movies did different aspects better.
UNLIKE THIS MONSTROSITY! God! The original one is perfect, why the hell was a remake needed?
@@Princess101855 My favorite Cinderella story other than the 1950 Disney version and the 1965 Rodgers and Hammerstein version is THE SLIPPER AND THE ROSE. As I recall, EVER AFTER wasn't that bad, and Anjelica Huston, who is pathologically incapable of giving a bad performance, was pretty good as the stepmother.
@@Attmay Ever After was a masterpiece. Amazingly well-written and had great acting. ^_^
@@ohfortheloveofguacamole6803 And its director, Andy Tennant, played Melio in MIDNIGHT MADNESS.
I never saw Lefou as gay (in the original):
The way I saw it, it wasn't that he wanted to be WITH Gaston. He wanted to BE Gaston.
In the original, the Beast gave her the library because he wanted to give her something she would like. He was learning to think of people other than himself. In this, he was still a jerk and he showed her the library to show off. We didn't get any growth moments for him. He just suddenly decided to be a better person out of nowhere.
the whole Ghaston Lefou ship is probably the dumbest part of the movie. I've heard people say "oh no a perfectly good reason for Lefou to be obsessed with Ghaston, what a crime!" and if you think that you completely misunderstood the character dynamic here. Lefou is a leach. he's a creep who wouldn't get any popularity on his own, so he hangs out with Ghaston so he gets more eyes on himself. this adds to Gaston's character because his best friend is literally a leach who will give him unconditional praise even though he doesn't like him for his personality, but for his fame. and because of Lefou only hanging out because of his popularity, Ghaston can just smack the heck out of him and he will still give unrelenting (but empty) praise. Lefou being attracted sexually to Ghaston completely undermines this dynamic, and in fact, a major plot point of the film, being that Ghaston wants Bell as his wife. if he could just be with Lefou there's no problem.
But the the movie wouldn't be PrOGrEssIVe
They could just have made Lumiere and Cogsworth a couple lol it was the most obvious choice, belle even ships it in the christmas special
H
Hell in the first movie lefou clearly hits on the three women so this whole he’s gay things it just bull shit they pulled out of their ass. Hell im gay and when this whole fake controversy came up all I could do was roll my eyes at how stupid it was on both sides
Thank you
Emma doesn’t even look like belle to me
Belle is suppose to be a WOMAN. Emma reminds me of a little girl playing dress up
She came off like a feminist failing to act in a historical period piece!
Same here
If it's just her apperance, I can't think of a good reason to say she'a bad
Sharon Efee it’s not just her appearance that’s not right, her singing was very auto tuned and very bad. Also her acting was horrible and she turned Belle into a boring person.
"...a cross between T-Pain and actual pain."👌😌 perfect.
Belle: “No one can change...THAT much.”
Boy, what a non-judgmental, accepting individual you are. How can they mess up her character THIS bad?!
Thank you for hating Emma Watson as Belle as much as I did lol. She had no charm. She's actually unpleasant. Ugh and that voice is a perfect example.
Jessica Lovecat and she’s such a bitch to Gaston, who in this movie was actually pretty nice in comparison, even took an interest in her book. What a cow
She was good as Hermione. I saw none of that talent in BatB. Wtf, Emma?
You're right. My dream is to see Lily Collins playing Belle
she is overrated it's annoying
Yass. Literally i can't say anything negative about her without being lectured of How wonderful she is and she does so many wonderful things! I'm done with that tho. Watson needs to calm down
It pains me when people who think they are smart and know better just tottally miss the point of certain characters or stories. Like people thinking that Cinderella was about getting a man to make you happy but in actuality it was about keeping your chin up and hopes high and one day life will throw you a bone.
Plus Cinderella didn't even want to go to the ball to try to impress the prince, that was what the step-sisters and step-mother wanted.
...&if you're _really_ lucky: a boner! -W/"said" handsome, rich dude attached;)
Exactly! Cinderella just wanted to be able to attend the ball like everyone else. Cinderella's mice friends and fairy godmother supported her because she was kind and generous despite getting treated like crap all the time.
The live action Cinderella actually nails this, I think. “Have courage and be kind”.
One of the arguments about the original source is that it was a story to prime young girls for arranged marriage.
"Hey SURE he might seem like a creepy guy older than your dad, but think of the nice palace long enough and you won't even see his liver spots!"
At least in the original disney cartoon, it's heavily implied that the prince was a kid when he opened the door..
A thing that I noticed in the remake: In the live action film, Belle's washing machine invention WAS SIMPLE AND PRACTICAL, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, SUCCESSFUL AND FULLY FUNCTIONAL. Maurice's crazy and deadly looking inventions never really worked in the beginning of the animated movie, that's why the villagers thought of him as a kinda crazy, eccentric inventor. His invention only successfully worked during the break out scene with chip and the woodchopper, but none of the villagers witnessed it. Plus, Belle's invention is simple and easy to understand. Like, all you need is a barrel and rope, then tie it up to a donkey and make it go around in circles. Maurice's inventions were too elaborate for the dumb townspeople to understand and too risky and hazardous to be put to use.
This would have been a great set up for father-daughter bonding moments, like testing inventions together and discussing ideas. It would have been a great payoff too because we'll get to see that same moment again when they escape together.
This movie was just all over the place. Emma Watson ruined it in my opinion. She looks nothing like Belle, she is not a good actress and instead of playing the damn role, she changed it to suit her feminist agenda. She was like a robot throughout the whole film. And I hated how the library gift was presented in this movie. It was not as romantic and sweet like in original one...Beast just suddenly gave it to her. While in the animated one, he really wanted to give her a present and thought hard about what might make her happy. It was super sweet. This film was a cash grab...nothing more. This is what happens when everything has to be politically correct.
But didn’t you know she was in Harry Potter which is like the hipster bible cause thinly veiled metaphors for race/fascism mixed in with Dawson creek level teenage melodrama is clearly what you want to base our political ideology one(and I say this as someone who likes the book alright and even the first three movies)
This comment is perfect
I thought she looked fine for the part, the biggest problem was she just couldn't sing and they had to autotune her, and it sounded really bad. She definitely wasn't the only problem in the movie though.
Third-wavers are anti-woman.
@@asher8754 All HARRY POTTER did was copy every Disney movie that had a witch or a wizard in it. The estate of Mary Norton, the author of BED-KNOB AND BROOMSTICK (the movie pluralized it), should get royalties. That story only needed two books and one movie to tell it. Now it's getting a stage version and I hope it's a success.
Even though this movie is basically a fairy tale, doesn't portraying an unrealistic degree of racial equality in this 18th century French town kind of defeat the purpose of having a historical setting in the first place? I mean, you might as well just make it take place in modern times if you're going to jettison the historical context.
I agree, at least put it in another time period like the Dark Ages or Roman Times. It's public domain anyway, alternate continuity this bitch.
Or you can also reset them in different cultures and time periods, which I am a fan of the diverse settings of folklore and fairytales.
No, it doesn't, because it doesn't matter.
@@pigsnoutman i wonder if belle was considered strange not because she reads books, but because she does nothing but read books. she lives her own world, and that is unfamiliar territory for everyone else
@The Confusing Riddle There was no mention of slaves in the original story, you dumb bitch.
It's hilarious that they had to insert diversity into a town that is supposed to be small-minded, xenophobic, and dumb. Yet they are very progressive when it comes to diversity... except when they need to be sexist, or something.
And now Lefou, the only character more weaselly and pathetic than Gaston, now must be redeemable... becuz "gay".
It's funny that they decided to make the freaking villains of the movie diverse and more representative.
I hate how Hollywood removes feminity out of women in cinema to make them "more feminists". They litterally drained all the grace out of Belle... did you see how freaking emma walked in the village ?! She wasn't even reading that book and she looked bored as hellllllll !
I know , the way Emma Watson walked in this movie literally looks like an angry little boy , like a boy scout being scolded by the instructor and throwing a temper tantrum ~~
Wait a sec, why did people make such a fuss about girls reading? There were a lot of women writers back in those days. True, Belle was often outcast due to reading in the original. But, wasn't more so because people thought she should've been more concerned about her beauty than books?
In the original film, I always thought Belle was seen as odd because she was almost always reading and had her head in the clouds. She was a dreamer who wanted something more in her life, meanwhile everyone else was content with their boring everyday life in a small town.
Gaston is really the only one in the animated film that makes a comment about a woman reading. Heck, there's even a scene where Belle goes to the bookshop and the guy working there is nice to her and lets her keep the book. He says something like "you've read it twice already, if you love it so much it's yours".
I think she was outcasted in the original because people were village people, they looked after their land and jobs and were more grounded, while Belle was more of a dreamer and they just found her weird, but the kind of weird "hey this kid reads again, oh well i dont get why she reads but its okay" and in the live-action the people were like "oh, you reading again? you useless brat"
In the original movie, I thought the villager was like "uhh, there she go, reading and act like she deserves better again"
@@duykhangtran4406 That's the case too.
It's a small village, everyone is on everyone's business there, that's why it was such a big deal.
Listening bad reviews about this movie brings me so much joy.
Same
Another small thing that annoys the hell out of me.
Bell's clothes(Her normal every day ones speficially).I know the original one didn't have clothes all that accurate with the time period.But even so,they still feel closer compared to what the movie did.She is literary wearing what a hipster cottage lover girl on Tumblr would think women dressed like back then but did 0 research on the mater.
Her clothes are way too modern looking.The colours should had been more full,more raggy,no animal prints and no fucking gold necklace.Gold necklaces were 100% for rich people only back then!Also they were not as small and delicate as they are today.Back then gold was a sign a status far more than today,so when they did get something made out of gold,they made it big and detailed so you fucking noticed them.
7:04 Belle isn’t an ACTIVIST. She’s a character in a beautiful story that many girls can relate to. He doesn’t understand Belle’s character.
Emma has and probably always will be overrated. And not because feminism.
That’s true but my g-d her vapid third wave femanist shtick it tiresome
She's decent in Harry Potter (especially during her younger years), and that's it.
@@thevioletbee5879 thats all i can say about her. "she was decent In harry potter"
Wait... Wtf... Lefou even fell in love with the triplets in the original film.
@Wowie Zowie
He never showed interest in men though?
@Hannah Papernick-Yudin Not so much leeching, as he admired and looked up to him, like a little brother.
Disney has always pissed on the source material...now they're pissing on their own IPs.
Honestly, I thought Lefou admired but also feared Gaston, since in many parts, he is scared of Gaston about to smack him or obeying all his orders, even if means to froze in snow... If that is romantic love... Then ew.
you forgot to talk about how the timeline was all over the place. Such as the fact that the black plague and pistols were not at all in the same time period
According to Emma Watson, apparently had to audition like everyone else for the role but between how terrible her singing was in the movie and how much influence they gave her over the character and wardrobe, I beg to differ.
what Emma Watson said and the director Bill Condon said was very contrasted to eachother. While Emma Watson tried to imply that she had no privilege at all she had to show her skill like other girls but Bill Condon strongly said Emma Watson was the ONLY CHOICE from the beginning. I highly doubt her statement about competing with other girls for this role...
I’m so glad that someone said it. I hated that Emma Watson was Belle like she is the worst representation of her. I grew up with Belle being a strong dreamer who doesn’t give a shit about what others think and does what she can to protect those she loves even if everyone is against her. When Emma Watson played Belle I saw a weak girl, ESPECIALLY in the songs, Belles voice was strong and powerful and that is NOTHING like Belle. This movie was pretty disappointing. Great video though, really funny.
They should change the title of the remake to reflect exactly what you're getting: "Emma Watson and the CGI Mess"
Adrianna Morales ya, they make belle a helpless idiot, I always thought of her as a smart ass
I though Lefou fallowed Gaston because he wanted to be Gaston, the macho, ahole who got all the girls who had arms ticker than some goats, he was living vicariously, and maybe he was also a bit like Wormtail from Harry Potter, walking around a stronger person that isn't necessarily good to you but can protect you from others.
Basically Lefou was Gaston's lackey/sidekick/yes man. He looked up to Gaston so much as his number one role model and wanted to be just like him, and Gaston loved having a personal servant who did whatever he wanted. It was kind of a pseudo parasitical/abusive relationship, although Lefou certainly didn't see anything negative about it!
Well he probably disliked the whole getting punched, slapped and knocked around -thing. But if their roles were switched, he totally knock Gaston around in the same way, so...
also him suddenly changing sides at the end of the movie didn't make sense at all, like why is he suddenly a good guy? His character wasn't meant to be good, the original Lefou had nothing redeemable about him, why didn't they keep him this way
@@TheAkwarium Because they made him gay. You can't have a gay villain, that would be homophobic.
Just ask tumblr.
The irony that the gay character was someone whom Gaston always took it out on when he didn't get his way.
The opening song is basically Emma Watson saying: “DIRTY PEASANTS I’M BETTER THAN ALL OF YOU.”
Their love didnt convince me. He didnt give her the library as a gift to make her happy because he liked her, he did it cuz he wanted to show off
I remember just deciding that Belle's mother must have died in child birth when I watched the original. That was literally good enough for me. I didn't really need an answer--I already had one. Sometimes it's better to just let the audience make decisions on things for themselves, movie writers!
She would have probably died from a disease, but tuberculosis & few viral or bacterial fevers would have made the deadly job less Broadway over dramatic cliché than dark plague... Original let you tell our own BatB story, Beast Castle was a kind of X-Men school for daydreamers...
but moviegoers ~need~ to have their hands held watching all these disney movies. why be imaginative when you can have everything handed to you with a silver spoon
@@needmeachillplaylistforstu3495 Ah, this is very true. Imagination is overrated anyway. I mean, who has time for that anymore?
@Hannah Papernick-Yudin Yes! Thank you!
@Hannah Papernick-Yudin Also, ya know, some people are just jackasses because they're just jackasses. There are people like that.
did everyone forget that LeFou was legit eyeballing the three bimbettes at the opening song from the animated film..? you know, when the three were ogling over Gaston in their part of the song?
Damn glad someone remembered that part
Bisexuality exists.
@@PhoenixRising87 It exists but he aint part of it clearly.
It definitely wasn’t subtle. Dude was practically upside down and had his tongue out!
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Exactly! I was wondering how everyone came to the conclusion that LeFou was gay if he CLEARLY demonstrated immense interest towards the opposite sex! Geez, this live-action remake..... 😒
I'm still shaking my head at the way they turned Belle's beautiful golden ballgown into a canary yellow prom dress.
Linda Wolverton, the one who wrote the Beauty and the Beast script was a REAL feminist and wanted Belle to be different from the previous princesses. Also she was the first external screenwriter in a Disney movie . She worked directly with the rest of the staff, she was the only woman there , so she felt like Belle on her own town ....
But nah, for Emma Watson , Belle wasn't feminist enough
@@krillcommunication exactly !
My favorite non-Belle moment in the 2017 movie is a clip this video didn't even include - she agrees to take her father's place in the dungeon, then says "Don't worry, I'll escape!"
In the original, she takes her father's place out of love and compassion, even though she's scared and falls into a depression thinking this is the last time she'll see her father - but she still means to stay because she exchanged herself for her father. She only runs away when she absolutely can't keep that promise anymore because she was so terrified at him lashing out at her.
Adding "I'll escape!" is so...untrustworthy and dishonest and makes that life exchange so meaningless and all her emotions - fear, anger, sadness later are undermined by this bout of confidence that comes basically out of nowhere.
Lindsay C.
I agree.
Yeah. It’s really disappointing.
Wow, I never thought about that point. But it makes sense how grave belle exchanging her life for her dad was meant to be.
So I talked to a friend about this movie. And she’s extremely well-read in medieval literature and history. Back in the day, promises weren’t to be taken lightly. A promise, any promise, was to be kept or you’d be shamed. So there’s a story or a well-to/-do married woman promising a peasant she’ll sleep with him if he performs some near-impossible favor. And he does. And she goes to her husband and asks what to do. He told her yeah, sleeping with that guy would be shameful, but breaking a promise would bring her even more disgrace.
Now let’s look at Belle’s sacrifice through the same lens. Her promise was her honor and beauty and virtue.
“I’ll escape” can only break the immersion by painting a sacrifice / promise through the modern perspective where there’s no shame associated with breaking it. Sad.
@@Lyn22020 did u have the name of the story? I’d love to read it.
I'm all for racial equality, but it realllly pisses me off when movies portray history inaccurately just for diversity. Black aristocrats in 18th century France? Come on, Disney, you can do better than that!
I like to call this "equality washing"
Tbh, I don't mind this at all. Those movies are not meant to portray real history, they're fairytales. I can easily imagine an alternate reality where things just are like that.
Eh, it's a fantasy; just imagine BatB 2017 as an AU where Africans in Haiti and Sierra Leone were properly emancipated and made fully-vetted subjects of the French crown.
Random black bookstore owners and aristocrats are the *least* of the problems w/this Disney remake.
@@brokenandcraked good name. gotta use this one-
As a company that acknowledges that racism exist, they completely neglected it happened in the 18th century 😅
To justify the whole Belle is an inventor the film maker says "what is she doing all day?" As the original shows, she's running the farm to feed her father who is a flawed dreamer like herself, as his inventions are hit and miss at the best of times, but because she cares so deeply for her father she has taken on the running of the family business.
26:10
"what about the new generation"?? how about instead of doing shittier versions of already good movies we give the new generation... *new* movies
revolutionary, i know.
Also, it sounds like the new generation can’t handle the original masterpiece movies.
Disney: We have you fam. Raya and the Last Dragon, anyone?
Fairy Tales are not something that happened just in Europe and Asia. There are several continents Disney has barely tapped into. Wouldn't you want to watch an Anansi movie? I would.
Well, obviously not if they where made by the same people who made the live action remakes.
Who is that in ur pfp? She looks familiar
17:16 This, exactly this. Whoever cast Emma Watson as Belle needs to be taken out to pasture. Nobody could be further from the character than her. I'm glad I found someone who gets it.
Whoever casts Emma Watson in anything period should be shot. She can't act at all, and people only remember her because she was in the Harry Potter franchise. Oh, and also that she's hot eye candy for straight guys and lesbians to get off to!
I agree...I do badly wish they'd cast Rose McIver for Belle...plus she can actually sing....but it's always about big names and money... :((
Most people would awe that Belle could read; cause it provide the person with the skill to possibilty to read and understand the law that govern them. These weren't some stupid hillbillies on the country side, but often very bright and practical people. In the animated verson it wasn't about that Belle could read, but read too much.
The fact that she could read wouldn't have been such a great deal either. This were the time when public schooling just started to form
Yeah but Disney don't give a fuck. Just remake the old movies for uncreative nostalgia bait
@@twiliblade Yup. The real reason any of these live action movies were made: $$$
Tell that to the Mulan live action movie now
I read in another comment that apparently 64% of women during the that time period of France could actually read so it's not like she's special for being able to. I'm certain that in real life, the parents of the girl would've been grateful that her daughter was learning to read. And I'm sure the villagers would actually be asking her to be a teacher or something for the other kids.
"Doing laundry"?! Wasn't she taking care of her father? Y'know, out of LOVE for the man? And it wasn't like he was ungrateful, either. Helping someone with chores does not equal _oppression,_ you ignorant children!
And didn't the town generally like her? I remember everyone speaking fondly of her in her little introduction song. If she "didn't fit in", it was because she had interests that are more introverted or solitary. She's a nerd, and most people think that the things nerds like are boring. And even then, it was only Gaston that wanted her to drop her interests. Did they even watch the original? Or did they just look in its general direction?
They farted in it's general direction.
Why else would he hang around Gaston????
Uhm.... maybe because everyone loves Gaston. They constantly give him attention. So for him to be around Gaston would mean he would maybe get some attention from the coolest guy in town. Not in a gay way either. More of a "oh this guy is the coolest and everyone wants to be around him and i was lucky enough to be!"
Also If I remember correctly, there is one scene where he tries to flirt with some of the girls after Gaston does.
I didn't enjoy the film at all despite me being a big fan of Disney stuff. I felt like they only casted Emma because she is popular rather than thinking about how well she could actually portray the character. I personally think casting lesser known actors / actresses is great, you're giving other people a chance (not reusing the same actors over and over) and it also helps you seperate the character from the actor. It really just felt like we were watching Emma Watson rather than Belle. Her singing was incredibly mediocre and autotuned, and the characters looked a bit unsettling in CG. It would have been cool to see a more historically accurate adaptation.
I think Disney should only make remakes when they have a really good plan for it, rather than it just being a easy cash cow for when they run out of ideas.
I'd have really loved to see Lily Collins as Belle I think she'd fit far more and would have made Belle to actually be Belle as she's supposed to be
The irony is that Disney been rehasjing other people's works since Snow White.
"Ay! Look at dis! We got a FEHHGIT!"
I choked on my lukewarm fanta.
I literally cried when you were reading Emma Watson's quotes, that was the funniest part
I’m mad Maurice isn’t fat. That’s what I loved about him. I like Fat Disney dads, like Jasmines dad, Prince Charmings dad etc
Prince Charming and his Fat Dad have the best fucking parent/child relationship in all of Disney.
I still am not over the whole "don't you go down these stairs!" "Ok" *jumps out of the window* AND THEN HIS DAD YELLS AFTER HIM "WE'LL GET YOU HELP! WE'LL HAVE YOU LEECHED!!"
I also like Prince Philip scolding his dad's backwards views "This is 14th century, DAD"
Amazing video! Thank you soo much for touching on the Old woman just bursting into the castle. Always annoyed me. Something that also got to me in the movie was how disrespectful Belle was throughout the entire thing. In the opening song, she walks on the edge of the communal well. Which forced the young ladies who'd just laid out their laundry to quickly pick it up. Then when she invented the washing machine (why since she never does anything else the entire movie invention wise) She takes up the entire well for a device that A. can only be used by one person. And B. requires an animal that will take up all the space. And is unsanitary for the area. For a progressive girl of her time. Belle certainly became a spoiled privileged one.
I´m also surprised that any of the other ladies said anything about the destroyed washin machine. I mean, laundry was one of the hardest chores, it even took all the women of the household to wash by hand everything! A real life woman would´ve slayed anyone who dared to destroy a washing machine!
Shit movie hermione wasn’t even this annoying well pre goblet of fire anyway.
They tried, I can tell they tried....but Watson ruined everything with this movie for me.
Disney owns 47% of all movies in America now they don’t care cause even if the Disney brand itself were to crash and burn they have hundreds of new properties to make up the difference.
@@asher8754 They stopped caring the day Walt Disney himself died. They just wanted to grab more and more cash, but Mr. Disney said "No" more often than the moneybags liked.
They're trying too hard, that's the problem.
She ruins everything she's in, except for Harry Potter. She's literally only eye candy, that's all she has going for her!
@@christopherregan1654 Then to a gay man such as myself, she has nothing going for her. I've seen better acting on LAVERNE & SHIRLEY.
Only Disney could take some of the most beautiful animated characters of all time, reverse-engineer them into a horror show, and think they had improved anything!
Emma Watson turned Belle as a Mary Sue
While we're drawing Twilight comparisons, Belle = Bella here. Everything is inexplicably all about her despite the fact that she has the personality of a dead termite. Everything is overtly contrived to make her stand out because she certainly can't on her own. She somehow manages to grandstand while still being more wooden than a fence post. Yet she still has a prissy twat and a hairy ragey dude after her. Yes, I'm calling this Gaston a prissy twat. #NotMyGaston
Emma Watson as Belle is boooring
Yeah, Emma Watson really sucked as Belle! There were a whole bunch of others who could've done the role justice!
#NotMyGaston , #NotMyBelle , and #NotMyBeast .
she didn't have to teach the kid to read, it was not uncommon for women to read at all, in fact, the story "la belle e bete" was published in a women's magazine in France. To Watson not wearing a corset throughout the film, It is HISTORICAL COSTUMING and stays (18th-century corsets) are not as uncomfortable as portrayed. They were mainly back and bosom support and less of a waist shaper. finally, why is her peasant dress skirt tucked up into her belt? why couldn't they just leave it down because it isn't long enough for her to trip over anyway? plus, showing that much leg back then was improper for any woman, because it was synonymous with being a harlot.it's not progressive, its actually demoralizing to her character. does Maurice turn a blind eye to this because belle's mother did that? well congratulations, Belle's mom is a prostitute, guys. even women in the suffragette movement centuries later still wore corsets and proper clothing and didn't think they needed to disrobe or shock people with their outfits. what they fought for was radical enough to get anyone's attention.
Lisa Leyendekker I wore a corset once. I felt gorgeous and comfortable in it.
@@CandyApples4ever So have I, both for historical costuming and regular day wear. to be honest, it's better than a bra for the support and my posture felt better wearing it.
"even women in the suffragette movement centuries later still wore corsets and proper clothing and didn't think they needed to disrobe or shock people with their outfits. what they fought for was radical enough to get anyone's attention." damn I wanna plaster this everywhere. You don't need shock value to sell an idea. Also corsets honestly are really nice, Emma needed to woman up.
Lisa Leyendekker Now I’m going to buy corsets!
I wear dresses in summer!
No one can tell me no!
@@IceQueen975 Well, yeah, you don't need to shock people to sell your ideas, in fact the suffragettes never went on hunger strikes, they never broke things, they never chained themselves to railings, they never burnt buildings, they never threw themselves under the king's horse during a race. That was just us dreaming that it happened.
21:57 THANK YOU!!! I've been saying this forever. Emma Watson has no real acting prowess or range or charisma/screen presence. Her acting is just so...formulaic & predictable. She has the ability to do only two facial expressions:
1. The (insufferable) patronizing smirk
2. The hilariously theatrical scrunchy-eyebrow-puppy-eyes thing she always resorts to when she's attempting to emote "sadness."
Fun fact in the original animated (good) version they had scenes with the beast as a child but ended up cutting it for various reason. In hindsight this was a good move since we don't need to know every facet of a character's back story to understand who they are.
I feel that with representation if you make it your goal to make a gay character they won't be as good as if you make a character that happens to be gay. Like negasonic in deadpool 2 happened to be gay and we didnt even blink twice about it.
Ironically the best example of inserting gay characters into a movie is scott pilgrim don’t get me wrong it’s still a bad movie with very unlikeable people in it especially Scott and Ramona but they handle the gay guy and her female ex great they state they see gay and that’s it they treat them like actual cheaters and not some freak show attractions defined by just being gay.
@@asher8754 But why waste gay characters on movies that bad?
@@senorcreepypasta3126 If gay inclusion was all they were pushing, that would be one thing.
The same argument can be made for how a lot of Hollywood approaches strong female characters. That’s the focus, rather than simply making a good character and they happen to be female.
@@senorcreepypasta3126 Ah, yes, the Gay Agenda™. We bisexuals aren't allowed at the monthly meetings, but we do get to attend the annual convention.
I may not agree with your every point, but I have to admit that your editing is absolutely hilarious. More reviews like this please.
"This Gaston ain't eating five dozen eggs, he's out here doing Yoga and hot rock therapy"
I rarely crack up watching videos on TH-cam but that got me good
It’s scary that this movie is so bad because I can only imagine that the remake for The hunchback is going to be bad af
They just need to stop remaking there own movies.