Cummins powered CATERPILLAR 660B scrapers
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- CAT 660B scrapers get another life, repowered with Cummins engines to meet California Tier 4 requirements. Neat seeing new CAT's like the D10T2 pushing old girls like these 660B scrapers that just keep on going.
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I was one of the 3 who did a similar swap while working for Cummins Intermountain in '82 or '83. Swapped the Cat 346 with a Cummins K1160. The 346 is an overhead cam V8 while the 1160 is of course an inline 6. It required lengthening the frame between the front engine mount and the radiator. Quite a job.
Back in the seventies and eighties we used to build raised plyboard decks for The Operators feet because of the heat buildup probably the same 660 B's that we had back then they were down in LA
Yup that’s the new guys scraper for the summer. After 3 months being a laborer in the industry I
“Graduated” into a site truck driver. Next day I came in early and got in a new Cat D-400 and promptly got booted, than tried a couple D-350s with AC booted, a couple D-350s with no AC booted. I asked the foreman where’s my truck. He told me they’re taking it off the lowboy now and he’d give me a lift to get it. It was a 1987 Cat D-25C with no brakes bald tires and milky plexiglass for windows that couldn’t open. If the 90 degree heat wasn’t bad enough I was the one who had to take the Volksboulders so the new trucks didn’t get beat on. Them days are dead now greenhorns only want to run the machines or stare at their phones and if you yell at them to get to work they either quit or report you for bullying and using coarse language. Idk how this video just triggered me like that but it’s got a guy all sorts of disgruntled
I've watched your videos for a long time and they are great. And the work that you do is amazing. I wish you all the best.
Awesome videos! As always! Can you please make a video of the Cummins engine and conversion and all of that? Thanks
waitin for the youtube experts to say how they're doing it all wrong.
Why a scraper can't pick up itself? I saw the same in my country. Can't engeneers make an independent scraper?
@@sashaborkin if the soil is very hard or your cutting at close to maximum depth traction becomes an issue so push dozers or a second scraper are employed to help out otherwise you could only cut a couple inches at a time.
there is an earthmoving company in West Aust that replace cat engines with the make featured as a matter of course. The kta 19 is a strong reliable engine with wide ranging hp settings including huge ones
I put 400 big cam Cummins with Jake brakes in my DW20's
With an added 6 speeds.
47mph empty down the highway
Bet you don't have steering in high gear.
@@tallen4520 ....Or good brakes, but those 25-year-old kids didn't care, too much fun getting to the next job.
Sounds like a bunch of moonshiners in the hills
@@dennisholst4322 .... All in the Portland Oregon area..
Footage from every camera angle. Super video 👍
How much of a headache was that repower 🤣 QSX15’s?
My favorite..... Caterpillar Scraper!! Good video! Thanks
Those are ground pounders
I could watch these machines all day I just love moving dirt and shit loads of it it reminds me of s summer I spent on a Ts14g at rotowaro coal mine
What's easy to forget is how much HP and torque it takes just to get the crank, pistons, gears, etc. turning, let alone to move the dirt and the weight of the tractor itself. Incredible
When to the fill it isn't a dinky lift
Caterpilar 660B super big my friend. 😀😀👍👍👍
Awesome. Quality dozer hands are hard to come by. Nothing quite like operating heavy equipment.
Wes was on one push cat and the other was from independent. It is a real talent to run a cutt and wes has it.
It's a sensation
Waaaaaaayyyyyy better than the BW stuff
Can someone tell me why CAT stopped making the 660s and 666s instead of upgrading them over the years like everything else they make.
These things have a exhaust brake and can go down hill at a rate of knots where as the 57,s and 51,s crawl down so they don't blow motors and trannies,why didn't cat put exhaust brakes on them ffs?
Company owner must be a dodge owner, too. Thinking cummins is the best.😅
The 660b tractors where use to haul coal with bottom drop wagons at our mine
Excellent drone video work....
Those operators worked there butts off on them 660`s. Good job Luke, Bryan and Will. When they run they sure move some yardage
Sorry I forgot Dirk was also running 660`s
How's it going Tim?
@@bryankirker9243 good Bryan how are you doing?
Hello Tim. Do you work for ACI? We repowered their fleet of 660’s with Detroit Diesel S-60’s in the mid 2000’s under the Carl Moyer program. I was a PSM for DD then. I remember the old owner (great guy) would come around with his son when we doing the first start up and cooling tests. They were on a big job in Temecula. Cat wasn’t interested in re powering them so we did and then Cat came along to try and change his mind. He told Cat that the ship had sailed. He asked if we could repower some of the dozers with our S2000 engines but we didn’t have a good scavenge lube system for high angularity.
@@dougberry1011 No I went to work for another outfit. ACI just repowered 4 more 660`a before i went to work for them. They only have a few 660's left now. Steve loves them they make a lot of money in right condition and move a lot of dirt.
Carb compliant!
Carb compliant SUCK's
new stuff cool
Those 60 s ain't trying they do it
Don't take a hour and a half to load one
660 s don't need an appearance
The turbo whine of these KTAs under heavy throttle.....is music!!
Sorry not KTAs that are obsolete and no Tier4 available
S Rawson I’m pretty sure they are DETROIT Diesel Series 60’s. I was involved in their repower under the Carl Moyer program.
@@dougberry1011 And Detroit 60s Tier2 are being replaced with Cummins Tier4. Smart business to keep 57Es Tier3 going per CARB regulations.
Buy American.
60swere masterminded
I wondered what they meant by "repowered" that's why they don't puff the black stuff then.
8th gear haul road action
Overground 50
I wonder why the contractor went with a cummins power plant and not go to a new cat plant problely because of prce and other considerations
CALIFORNIA EPA REGULATION REQUIRES COMPLIANT MOTORS. CAT DOES NOT MAKE ONE.
@@hankclingingsmith8707 Wrong, Cat does have Tier4 compliant engines running Calif. Cummins is a bit cheaper.
@@hankclingingsmith8707 if they don't make compliant engines then what do they use in all their new equipment? They don't make an over the road engine.
Excellent!
Great video 👌
a question to ask the planners of these massive home projects. do they plan on public transportation thru on a route that allows people to walk less than 2 blocks to a bus stop so they can get on a bus or some mode of public transport to get to a transportation hub to get to the store or work without a car..
Yeah, let's get rid of diesel and go with the "green new deal". Getting shit done efficiently is way over rated anyway.
Trabalhei 28 anos nesse tipo de cervisso como operado de D 8 e outros tratores de esteira.hoje curso edificações na construção civil é muito prazeroso!!👍👍
Great video , just needs A day in the paint shop to make it completely Cat yellow.
What's up with the dozer ice skating down the hill?
That is a big clod carrier
Ran one for Bert
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They’re loud that’s fpr damn sure!
What model Cummins is in it? Year/Hp?
Is the Cummins in fact a better powerplant than the Cat?
Probably better than what came in those things
Very cool! Is this a highway build?
from about 4:40, just like a dance...
Cats purr..........CUMMINS ROAR!!!!
Esses equipamentos da muita produção!!
Three diesel engines used to carry 40 yards of dirt, I guess it depends on where you’re dumping it and how you’re dumping it!!
Talk and speech have a peculiar result it's a set up for another debate
Kipper mit Baggern beladen wäre definitiv effizienter als dieser Murks.
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That thing will move the dirt
What on earth are they building that requires grading such a massive area?
Tomato garden.
Who owns the dozers?
What's the fuel burn pur day on a job that size
About 10000g
Glad it works for now. I am a pessimist when it comes to engines, especially Cummins. I would be interested to know if you made it to 5000 hours without a significant failure in the engine.
Never got that many hours on engines . Small engine issues and the guys were setting next to an oven. Machine run really hot temperatures
Well we've gotten 17000 out of an 8.3 12 valve without touching it, so I don't know what your talking about
@@nicholasmeyer5234 There are exceptions in all stereotypical situations.
@@nicholasmeyer5234 that's an incredible story. Could you please enlighten us all with more???
@@NPC-mt1cz I’m guessing your being a smart ass, but on account your not, the motor was in a Case IH 7140, ran it as a chore/tillage tractor, used it hard the 16 years we had it, and the motor still ran smooth, with no blow-by, but the transmission went out so we updated tractors
Super picture and sound!
A Desert holy shit
very nice video
Can they not make a scraper powerful enough to not require a push.Perhaps it's a traction issue,I dont know!!!!!!!!!!!
Your ignorance is forgiven . its less wear and tear on the scraper with a little help.
@@lrodriguez9315we are all ignorant about something. Otherwise you're known as a fucking know it all.It just seems like it would be more productive to only need one machine instead of three along with three operators.I really don't care but if I were in the earth moving business and they made a scraper that was powerful enough to not need additional help,I would be buying one.
To answer your question, no they can’t make a Scraper powerful enough to load itself under all conditions. Even twin engine Scrapers normally are more productive when push loaded. Yes it is mainly a traction issue. Having two push tractors and operators may seem inefficient, but remember they are pushing maybe a dozen Scrapers consecutively, making this type of operation the most efficient way of moving large volumes of dirt.
It's like this. Scrapers....even twin engine ones....in most material, will just spin the tires trying to self load. Rubber tires cannot provide traction enough to self load, so the push - pull concept of the twin engine machines was thought up....and it was a brilliant idea. As far as the single engine machines. The idea of a large Cat designed to rip the area being loaded, while being capable of push loading scrapers....especially being that the dozer is already there ripping, just made the entire process at least 4 times more productive while using the same amount of fuel as before. The idea came out of Peterson Tractor out of San Leandro, as well as the first twin engine scraper and push block bail hook set up.
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ASMR
California :
Mother Earth is like, so precious, we should like, all come together and stop using plastic straws to save her.
Also California:
Lets move an entire mountain to build some shit.
Hi, Ken.
Another GREAT video and LURRRVE the drone footage. It's good to see operators who KNOW what they are doing doing it and doing it well. Thank you.
Wish I hadda couple of them up here on the ranch.
Just my 0.02.
You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
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i call b.s those should have powerstroke engines because ford says they are the best
That is a funny remark!
Thank you for another great video, Take Care 👍😎🇬🇧.
How much weight do those move? Is it comparable to a dump truck? Obviously much faster than one being loaded.
120 tons GVW loaded.
660's hauls the most yards than any other scraper. 32 to 34 yards
@@timothygrell4398 maybe wrong, but I'm thinking a 660 is a 54 yard machine.
@@1dieselsmoke007 Yes, plus these have sideboards so probably more in the order of 56 -58
@@Gavin84w unless your numbers are better then GPS topo then the numbers were between 32-34 and that was heaped loads that you seen the operators get in this video
CAT = Cummins All Terrain
Is the 666 a duel
engine scraper?
Yes
who is the contractor on this job
aci altfillisch contractors inc
I’m sure it was ACI that we did the 660 repowers on. Are they sure these are Cummins powered and Detroit Diesel S-60’s. The opening frames shows a blue engine in there. I got a lot of pictures of these being repowered as I was Product Support Mgr for Detroit Diesel back in the miss 2000’s when this was a Carl Moyer repower project.
For this job the equipment had to be tier 4. These 660 were repowered with Cummins .
Not all of ACI's 660 were repowered with Cummins. Some were scrapped and others sold.
@@bryankirker9243 How many 660s are in the fleet now?
great video!what are they building?
probably more sprawl
we need more sprawl
Debt for future Americans
They should be ashamed of themselves for using crap equipment... man killer stuff like that !
Mankiller....how so???
@@someguy920 low iq broke ass hey....what ever you say professor
@@someguy920 those broke ass real operators were making over 120,000 to 140,000 dollars a year and disagree with you no scraper hands. In every skilled operator seat there are good and bad ones. Most of them take 13-17 dollars an hour