You hit the nail on the head when you compared it to the Honda 125, in comparison it’s ridiculously expensive and lacks practicality, nowhere to store gear or a small shop, removing the batteries to recharge would become a bind after a few weeks of ownership IMO, long term ownership would be costly when the batteries reached the end of their useful life, it appears that it does everything half as well as it’s internal combustion counterparts and costs twice as much, I don’t like to be negative when the manufacturers have put so much effort in and have obviously tried their best within the constraints of current battery technology, but tbh if Honda had just produced an IC 125 with an 80 mile range, top speed of 47mph, no storage, no pillion capability and needing a 2k battery replacement every few years we’d say it was unacceptable wouldn’t we?, my mother told me if you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all, maybe I should have done that, sorry Maeving 😊
Maeving are attempting to sell a product on style alone rather than practicality,it is also over priced by a large margin into the bargin,it's OK as a toy for the hipster crowd,but as a practical vehicle it's sadly lacking as you say.
This is one of number of bikes/scooters I am looking at. Living 2 up in a flat, the removable battery is essential as I have no other way to charge an EV, whether bike or car.
I suppose they could be forgiven for not knowing how best to deploy this as a practical thing….they are still feeling out the technology and how to price it….Price being one issue…as expensive as this is…an electric bicycle…..a practical electric motorcycle that can carry some things and ride for hours and hours is going to cost more than it will ever be worth….at least in the short term. As always …we are the beta testers.
I have to say, this electric bike has captured the ‘look’ in a very pleasing way. Following your review I might very well be tempted if they’re available in the states.
It seems they are, if you go to their site and set the country to US. However it says available in California only whatever the reasoning behind that is
I think for the experience level of the expected rider and the intended use the engineering is perfect especially the ease of removing and replacing the batteries.
I like it. It’s different and looks well made. I live in the U.S., if you went in a Harley Davidson dealership and started complaining about the cost and gas mileage, they would laugh you out of there! If you want it, all the other things don’t matter. And the range would likely be ok for what most riders do in an evening ride.
What a good looking bike. I would certainly consider it. I own a higher end electric bicycle and I'm constantly impressed with how well it runs. It doesn't do 50 miles and hour but it does put a smile on my face when I ride it.
Morning Andy. Nice bike but the Silence 01 has a similar range as the two battery with good underseat storage and the availability of a top box plus a faster top speed of 62 with regen braking for £1000 less.
Yeah but have you looked at a Silence01?! As a purely functional too sure, but transport is aspirational and driven by subjectivity for most, the Maeving is leagues ahead on that front
@@ashleyhazell662 yes I have looked at it, as a scooter it looks fine and for me and and the majority of small bike riders, functionality, practicality and price are more important than aspiration. The majority of low capacity bikes are bought as transport not aspirational art.
@@sergentcolon1 Young people looking for a way to get round the city will happily whack an extra £1000 on their finance agreement to ride around on a Maeving, of that I'm confident.
@@ashleyhazell662 in the U.K. not many young people ride bikes at all these days and at nearly £7k plus the huge cost for insurance charged for younger riders I doubt there will be many. This bike will be bought more by older guys as a toy like the Monkey and Dax
Nice video Andy. You are going to be very careful where you park this bike in an urban environment, a quick lift into a pick up or van and it’s gone. What’s is the range per KW to miles and battery size ? Does the cost of electricity stack up against a 100 mpg 125 ? It looks cool, but perhaps a warm weather bike to trundle round the village in my dotage. I like the bike, but not yet for me.
It looks amazing. When I sat on one at the NEC a couple of years ago I was well impressed with the fit and finish and the thought and style that had gone into it! I wish they made a slightly bigger one with a 70mph limit..... but, unless I was rich, you could buy so much more bike for the money. You could get pretty much any cool retro bike you wanted, second hand, for £7k.....
Nice review Andy. Personally if I wanted a urban electric bike for commuting I would be looking at either the super soco tc max or the horwin cr6. Both are quicker than this bike and come in just under £5k... and the horwin can also have a top box 👍. That been said I still feel electric bikes and cars have a long way to go in terms of price, range and charging times. Having watched tea pot one do his lap of the UK on one (with all the charging issues) it demonstrated that they still aren't a practical replacement for the ICE. Maybe in 7 to 10 yrs things will improve but for now I am sticking with my GS 😇. Ride safe
7to10years? Nah, quicker than that with charging build-out, more stores and cafes will have chargers out front (instead of random locations with nothing to do while you wait). I wish I had more info on QUALITY of build- supersoco seems cheap made and I've heard it is an issue. If the extra 2grand goes into higher build quality, its well worth it. Someone on here needs to do an expose/investigation of the various parts/build quality of these bikes. I got a REAL cheap Chinese scooter and had the throttle break off in my hand.
Maeving have designed and built a lovely little urban commuter, but with a Royal Enfield 350 (Classic, Meteor, or Hunter) costing so much less it is going to be hard to compete.
Not so hard to compete when you look beyond sticker price and consider no maintenance and cheap electricity, which reduces lifetime cost to a comparable level. And at that point no petrol fumes beats petrol fumes.
Seen a few reviews of this and I wish them all the best with their endeavour. An option to charge "On the road" at public charging points would give a little more reassurance to those with range anxiety but as an urban cruiser/utility bike it tick all the boxes. Hopefully range might even improve as battery technology improves if they can maintain the same battery configuration. It certainly peaks my interest more than a Vespa.
Looks great, and if I was a city commuter, I’d definitely have one. As a retired village dweller, I’m struggling to build a scenario for getting one, but I’m working on it…
Pretty neat as a supplementary battery for your GoPro. Since these extended batteries became pretty large, they supply them on wheels. Don't forget the proper disposal.
I think Maeving missed a trick. It would be great if they included a plug in charge port to charge the batteries in a garage. I wouldn't expect to be able to use public chargers but being able to charge without pulling the batteries would be great.
Hopefully they will add some new and improved models to their line in the future and have that option added. I don't own one, but I do think that carrying the battery/ies inside for charging may also help reduce theft. Just a thought.
Hmmm. £7K!. It looks nice but I can't help comparing it to my 2012 Honda Innova 125 which I bought 9 years ago for £1,500. With its Honda build quality it still looks like new, is as light as a feather, will easily keep up with urban traffic and do 60 even with my considerable weight on it, and 120mpg. It has a top box, under-seat storage, and a front basket (now that IS cool in my book!). I think I'll be keeping the little Honda!
Great video as always. Looks OK but does nothing for me I'm afraid. I'd always want an engine in a bike or car. I think the electric vehicle world is one big con and some people are getting very rich on it.
I keep hearing this especially from those who haven’t tried one but I’m not sure what the reasoning is for why it is thought to be a con and how people are getting very rich by it. Surely the oil companies are Uber rich as a result of our dependance on petrol powered vehicles.
@@ianfutcher1518 how do you know I've never ridden an electric bike? If you keep hearing the same thing then maybe a lot of people don't share your opinion! I've been in the electronic and electrical industry for 30 years, watch this space, its not sustainable, practical or environmentally friendly as they have you believe!
@@simonr1392 I don’t know if you have ridden one - have you? I’m merely asking why you think it’s a con and how people are getting very rich by it - I’m genuinely interested in your view so that I can understand objections to electric motorcycles other than generic “I don’t want one” statements because from what I can see we are currently already feeding the oil companies with massive profits. I say we because that includes me.
Why is it a 'con'? It's just an option. There's no 'con' about it. It's an electric motorcycle. And if you think people aren't getting rich from internal combustion vehicles, then I have some lovely bridges to sell to you.
As a commuter it lacks any storage space. Granted, you can carry a rucksack, but it’s probably only really suitable as a hipster (poseur?) hangout toy given the low range and not being able to charge out and about. There’s something about it that doesn’t do it for me visually, possibly because it looks like an odd mish-mash of bicycle and early motorcycle. As you said, a Vespa is infinitely cooler, much more practical and the best part of £2K cheaper.
Thanks for posting. I agree with you. So far the coolest of the electric bikes I have seen so far. With the cheaper traditional bikes like the Honda/Vespa you mentioned, with a gas range approaching 100mpg (assumption on my part), you have to wonder the environmental impact of going electric at this level. Nonetheless, if I had to choose between the Honda 125 and the Maeving, I would choose the Maeving. There is a vanity factor involved, which I can't deny.
If I had to use it as actual transport for work then I'd take the Honda - if I was just nipping to the bike shed to get my chai latte and beard trimmed then this would be the bike for me...
As ever, excellent review, Andy. I'm sure some people might have spotted at 15:26 what I think might be a BSA C15 wearing a period fairing. Really cool bit of footage there - the old Brit and the new!
A great video Andy an well done for continuing to showcase what's coming up on the market! As for my opinion on the bike, I'll just say that if it had a combustion engine instead of the battery one, it would be awesome, nevertheless we have to give credit to Maeving for the bike built and above for being a privately owned company trying to compete with the big ones out there! 👍👍
I cant make my mind up as to whether its an ugly thing, or design genius. That, i think, makes it spot on. Its a customisers dream. Plenty of scope to modify the rear end etc. Cost is high, yes, but its going to be, For a first proper go at one, in that design & quality, built in the uk, i think they've done great! Made near to me too. The only thing i winced at was the tang/ latch holding the 'tank' cover down. I can easily see your hand getting cut or grazed when taking the top battery out. Surely a rounded latch pin would have been a better solution. I would also have made the battery & electrics covers moulded more like a motor, or engine of sorts. If thats the only constructive criticism, i think they've done a good job!
ABS saved me a couple of times as a beginner. And even with experience, you can't stop as quickly without ABS. Love everything else about this motorcycle though.
You can stop quicker without abs, if your very skilled and have time to prepare for the stop. But id have it every time in a real life emergency brake.
I frequently see that people don't deduct potential lifetime savings from the higher sales price for electric vehicles. Practically no maintenance (especially on a hub motor bike) and presumably cheap electricity must save quite a lot of dosh but it's usually only brought up as ease of ownership. As if the sticker price on a fossil is the only money you spend and the frequent maintenance costs are irrelevant.
Another great review! 👍bike looks cool but just too expensive. There are definitely cool looking retro 125’s out there for a lot less money. I think this type of toy (and it is a toy) will have very limited sales
A superb little commuter. Unfortunate that electric vehicles are still considerably pricier than their petrol equivalents, but Maeving have clearly gone down the quality route. I'd definitely have one as a 2nd bike if I had that sort of cash lying around.
A great bike for the urban environment. Looks cool, made in England. Like that you could just pull the battery out and charge it in the office. Makes more sense than the full size electric motorcycles at 20K plus.
Great review and what a cool looking bike. I put one in my basket but no servicing option so took it out again. They got to show the service cost and how that works before you buy, shame because I love it.
Gotta say at the outset Andy it's just plain ugly 🤣mate you ain't selling this one to me . Man I respect your attempts at finding the positive in it but noooo.I see this as having as much visual impact as a Sinclair C5 sorry but I can't help but chuckle at you trying to find all the positives given the bikes you have in the garage . Seriously a £1,000 for a battery and ny on £7,000 to buy why on earth would you buy one .👌👍😋What a gem !!
Hmmmm 2020 TMAX owner, 2 bags of shopping under the seat, weather protection, 120mph top end, great handling, great stopping, and i can stretch out my legs straight when i want, dont think i'll be trading it in anytime soon, thats to answer your question, however quite a nice looking machine if not a little impractical.
Thanks for the great review! Very helpful perspective. I don't buy the entire 'loud bikes save lives' thing. Someone turning left (or right) in front of you (the most common type of accident) is still going to do so if your bike is loud. Likewise, a car shifting into your lane. Cars run into bikes because they don't see you. Even if they do hear you, if they don't see you they don't know where it is coming from--and still probably won't look for you. Oh, and soundproofing in cars is pretty good. A car traveling 55MPH creates 72dB of road noise. Maximum motorcycle sound level at 50' here in my home state of WA is 82dB. My cheap-o Kia is able to dampen that freeway noise to the point it is easy to carry on a conversation or listen to the radio at moderate levels. The noise of the cars around me doesn't even register, and slightly louder motorcycle doesn't either unless it is right next to my car door. So by the time even an illegally loud bike shocks someone into looking around, it's probably too late. My source: personal experience, and many, MANY motorcycle police who have told me stories about being cut off or hit by people who didn't see them even when they had their siren going and lights flashing.
The “Bobcycle” is born 😎 nice balanced view of the bike. It won’t meet the needs of all but like you said as a town /urban transportation solution it’s not a bad option. In terms of cost I know people who spend that sort of money on a electric pushbike so there will be a market for it I’m sure.
I think I mentioned this in passing, on one of your great monthly bike news. It's stylish for sure, conjures up thoughts of the old 50's bikes, like the Triumph 6T or the Norton Manx, that sort of thing. The design looks well thought out and the finish looks solid. I would say it looks like a really nice little city bike, with an ease of ownership that even cyclists will appreciate. It definitely has that cool factor going on. I am not a particular fan of EV's, so it's not for me, plus EV generally is still too expensive a proposition for mass market adoption. Now taken as an art piece, devoid of batteries or electric gubbins, I could see it sitting somewhere on a dealer's shop floor for the kids to get photos on, while Dad is laying down the pound notes on that new Speed Twin he's been drooling over for 6 months 😁
I watched this late last night and have a few thoughts on the bike. I have an E-bicycle that I used for what would be the same sort of commuting that this bike is intended for so I'll compare it to that. My e-bike was $3800 here in Seattle and I used it every day to commute 22 miles round trip to work. De-restricted (what, me officer? nah) it will do 33mph on the flat but you have to pedal all the time, no throttle. I charge it at work and at home and can do the 11 miles each way in half an hour through city traffic. I can fully see the appeal of this bike for that sort of work but at 7k it's quite expensive and has no real storage space when compared to a petrol scooter type that typically costs less. (as you mentioned) It has some really nice touches, like the spare battery that I really like. My own bike has done 4000 miles on the original battery and is still going strong, I expect it will probably last another 2-3000 before I have to replace it. Batteries ARE expensive. For my bicycle IF i can still get one, it would be around $700. Tech moves on fast and older rated batteries go out of production. This is going to be a real problem when I have to replace mine I think. I think the only things holding this bike back are the lack of possibilities in luggage due to no pillion provision and initial cost. Once over that the lack of servicing required will pay for a 2nd battery and it really is plug and play! Great review Andy!
I like it, it's cool, and the idea behind it is solid. But it is quite a bit less practical than a scooter, but then again, bikes are less practical than cars yet we ride them anyway as well. Quite pricey, though, yet at 7k it isn't unsurmountable, but you really need to WANT it to justify it. All in all it's a good thing this bike exists, it really adds something to the market. Thanks for the video Andy! Oh, and I hope the people don't confuse the RM1 with the R1M, which is a slightly different bike and maybe less beginner friendly
Nice looking machine but the range and charging is an issue for me. I’d be bored of having to take the batteries out all the time and then the costs of charging them, and the time to charge is always a hindering factor to me. Other than that, I think it looks great, but the cost of the whole package is just too steep, as with all electric vehicles. Until the pricing meets reasonable levels, I won’t be looking at one. Great review as ever.
The problem as you’ve rightly mentioned is cost. I’m happy that manufacturers are starting to produce practical electric transport but they are still expensive and not yet as practical as their fossil fuel competitors. The breakthrough for an urban electric motorcycle, in my opinion, is when it would have a top speed of 80mph, the weight close to a 140kg, 100mile range per charge and some sort of storage option even it’s in a form of a rack or a Givi style platform solution. The price would have to compete with a 250cc bike. I’d buy one if that came out as it would be practical. I don’t see a future in electric cars, not the way they don’t have standard chargers/sockets, the charging points finicky and unreliable. I think that there’s going to be a better solution in the future for energy in regards to cars than electric. But on urban bikes electric makes a lot of sense. Especially with us drop in dual battery solution as with this bike. Definitely a good direction that this British manufacturer has took with this bike and hoping they come up with more ideas in the future.
It's a nice looking bike, it's not for me but I'm glad they make it. There might come a day when disposing of end of life batteries becomes an added cost to factor in when buying any electric vehicle. Great video TMF :)
Companies have been set up to recycle EV batteries. Their biggest problem is that they can't get hold of any. EV batteries are outliving the vehicles they are fitted to, and get whisked away into second lives as home backup systems.
Reminds me of the Vincent Black Shadow. At that price you're correct, definitely a rich man's toy,, more so here in the USA where that's the price of a car.
Lovely leather trousers there Andy! good to see you wearing the proper protection! The CBT need to be taken every 2 years, you should know that with Misses TMF, but I am sure lots of people have also chimed in here. Hope you are well, buddy. Battery degradation these days is hardly noticeable the technology has moved on since the original Nissan Leaf days. The road tax will be from 2025 on and the size of the bike will be incremental like they are on ICE vehicles. Can you get a Switch eScrambler? now that is super cool!
Hi Matt - good to hear from you and glad you approve of my swanky leather trousers - they seem to have caused quite a stir! ...and yes my bad on the CBT, I did of course know it was 2 years (as you say Mrs F is in the thick of that) so no idea why I made the error - sometimes when I'm talking on camera I'm quite busy thinking ahead and make silly errors like that as a result....anyway, thanks for watching and see you around!
I’m glad you compared it to a scooter. The top speed limit of 47 confirms this. Fun around town scoot. 80 miles for a scooter is good but 40 is not adequate for my peace of mind. Price is 6999 is way over what I would pay. I’d do the top end Vespa.
I think I'd forego some range and use the tank section for storing small items and eliminate the top heaviness of a battery at that level, while always having a charged battery available. On second thoughts I'd probably prefer it if one or both batteries were kept down low in a more practical bike - something like big wheeled scooter, e.g.Honda Deputy/Sym Symphony, where one could take a pillion and have some parcel stash space. I'd also want the option of charging without removing the batteries.
You made me laugh out loud when you had been riding for a whole and then said ' I think the left leaver is for the the rear breaks, I think that's how it works' .....epic 😁
For someone who commutes on the motorway and goes into central London, I can imagine using my 650 to get through the motorway miles and then switching to this when I reach the ULEZ . Unfortunately despite all that cost cutting, it’s too expensive.
@@ianjames3078 I have family that lives on the edge of the ULEZ zone and they dont drive, yet have a driveway. So could do it. Nevertheless. I think the cost of these things is so enormous that they may be better off having some kind of rental system and parking areas. That would require collaboration with the necessary authorities in London and we know that it wont happen.
Something doesn't look right. I think I don't like that is looking something between a bicycle and a motorcycle. Not convinced with electric bikes at the moment. I test ride the Livewire ( which supposed to be a premium Harley Davidson) and I did find many issues with it. I can only imagine anything less than that specific bike ( which cost alot) would be even worse . Obviously that's just an opinion over million of users. Some will say I'm too negative but it's just an opinion. I do appreciate though taking time and making a video for something new. Always lovely to watch
I'm curious about the statistics of accidents due to quiet or silent motorbikes over the "loud pipes save lives" faction. I'm actually not so sure that electric bikes lead more people to run into them than into regular fossils.
Do like the battery pack idea - here's to them becoming 'a standard' & maybe run along similar lines to gas bottle 'rental'. eg. Open an account, exchange batteries as & when needed - any online corner shop or garage with mains power can run a charging 'station' - swap the batteries, measure the used current from your previous unit(s) & charge both them & your account accordingly. "If you're going to the paper-shop, take my Rolls & ask them to swap the batteries over will you? . . . and the same to you!" : )
Looks a bit geeky,which Im sure will hit its target market spot on. I will stick with my bike,at least people can hear me coming too.I run a standard pipe,its good enough.I worry if people dont hear silent bikes....
I'm sceptical about the likely sales success of this bike, in competition with much more practical and less expensive scooter options. It might be just the eco-ego thing for an affluent city-dweller, when not using their gas-guzzling SUV. Ideal also for motorhome owners who want to leave the campsite without packing everything up. Its small size and light weight would be a security advantage if you don't have a garage - you could just wheel it into the hallway, like a bicycle. On the down side, you would need to recharge it after every ride, and would rapidly tire of removing those batteries. I am surprised that Maeving have not provided an option of charging the batteries in situ, like on many electric golf carts.
Hi Andy Another great review. Just wanted to mention you state that CBT needs renewal every year at 11.55 mins. I have just checked, and its actually every 2 years. Might make possible new riders re consider starting
Nice looking, very stylish. I'd be scared (if this kind of bike becomes commonplace) people may just take a crowbar to it and take the batteries out. Or did you feel they were adequately secure against basic tools? I mean it's a 1000 pound battery if you look at their pricing on their website. That's 2000 pounds worth of battery
The removable battery pack definately the way forward as a commuter vehicle.Pop into work and put your battery on charge next to your phone and scoot home later on a full charge! Probably going to get grief from the big wheel brigade but as a commuter I feel the scooter format is more practical with greater inboard storage and a degree of weather protection
Thank you Aid - they do tend to drive women (and a few fellas) a little crazy when I wear them for sure....bang on trend urban fashion those....you wait, everyone will be wearing them soon.
A bit odd looking. I love the front fender though.😄 I know. Silly isn't it, but few things annoy me as much as a stubby front fender permitting road debris to assault the motor. I wasn't satisfied with Wing fender. I found a good extension for it. Hmmm, I had not thought about hearing the workings of a motorcycle without the sound of an engine drowning 'em out. I guess that is more s slow speed phenomenon than high speed. I hope a small rack is available for grocery store errands and the like.
I rode this at the NEC and it really does feel like you are riding a bicycle, we were limited to the low power mode but I think for a urban piece of transport it would be great, but the price needs to come down for something like this to be viable for the people that will buy this.
Another interesting and informative video Andy - thank you. Liked the looks of the bike and ease of use but I would be interested to get your thoughts on - 1. Lack of luggage carrying ability. No provision on the Maeving web site for a rear carrier, tank bag etc so it would appear rucksack only? 2. Cost of running compared with a small, equivalent ICE scooter. I would think with higher energy prices for the foreseeable future, the cost benefit of electric has reduced. 3. What do you think about the bikes future residuals? Batteries are guaranteed for 3 years, but what would be the bikes value based on the fact that the batteries might be coming to the end of their service life when the bike is, say, 30 months old etc? I often wonder how “attractive” they will be once they are a few years old. 4. Finally, what if Maeving as a company do not survive? Are the batteries used in other bikes or dies the bike become obsolete / worthless? Regards Bob
With 100 mile range and 47 mph top speed, can you imagine how well this would sell if it was $4500-$4700 for one battery and $5200-$5300 for two? I'd love this bike but, not at this price.
Lovely aesthetics. I'm very very pro EV, but such a quiet bike, IDK. I wonder how much the saying "loud pipes save lives" comes into play? I suppose time and statistics will tell us.
Did you notice if the bike had running lights. I’d be reluctant to let my kid out on a silent bike especially with no lights . But it’s a beautiful bit f engendering .. another great vid x
Suspension seems hard as you can here your voice bouncing with the road. Looks like they have taken a bike from the war and put a motor into it and for the money i would expect better storage on the bike for commuting. Still not impressed with electric as being 55 i love the sound and grunt of my Tiger 900. Great vid Andy, keep em coming.
The range is great but for commuting into town I'd really like to see a 60 mph top speed to keep up with traffic on the country roads before hitting town, and ABS / TC for the wet and twisty lanes. I'd certainly pay extra for that. Now I can understand why a lot of people compare these negatively to 125cc scooters but as many work places, like mine, let you charge electric bikes / scooters for free one of these could be run for next to nothing.
I actually love the idea of walking through a city without all the noise pollution from road vehicles. It'd be nice if people could just learn to use their eyeballs when they're on or near a road.
Like the bike, like the concept… too expensive in my opinion but the highlight for me was your ‘sprayed-on’ leather jeggings… a very bold choice sir, very bold indeed… much love ❤️🤣👍👍
Hi mate. I know you love small dual sport bikes as you’ve delved a little into that territory when you bought the CRF250L some years back. Now there’s an electric option which comes in the form of the Chinese, Surron Storm Bee Electric Motorcycle. Does 132kg, 60 mile range, 69mph top speed, four riding modes, abs, traction control, regen braking on an enduro bike sound? I’d be happy if you manage to find one and give it a go. It’s the most exciting electric in my books.
Interesting thing! But mr Flyer, I need to point something out. First you start at a petrolstation with a comment. I hope we some day don't think or talk as if electric and petrol fueled bikes are eachothers rivals. They all need fuel, just a different kind. It's not how many parts that makes the bike reliable or not. A crappy motor and it's enough with one part! That "bugeye" camera is something I would not miss if you stopped using it! That was me, the ol' fart! But there are a lot of positive things about this bike. That battery solution is interesting! And the design! And the fact it is not a speedmonster! Well done mr Flyer!
Thanks for watchinbg anyway John - I try and limit the "bug eyed" camera use but it is useful for showing riding position on the various bikes I ride....
You hit the nail on the head when you compared it to the Honda 125, in comparison it’s ridiculously expensive and lacks practicality, nowhere to store gear or a small shop, removing the batteries to recharge would become a bind after a few weeks of ownership IMO, long term ownership would be costly when the batteries reached the end of their useful life, it appears that it does everything half as well as it’s internal combustion counterparts and costs twice as much, I don’t like to be negative when the manufacturers have put so much effort in and have obviously tried their best within the constraints of current battery technology, but tbh if Honda had just produced an IC 125 with an 80 mile range, top speed of 47mph, no storage, no pillion capability and needing a 2k battery replacement every few years we’d say it was unacceptable wouldn’t we?, my mother told me if you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all, maybe I should have done that, sorry Maeving 😊
Maeving are attempting to sell a product on style alone rather than practicality,it is also over priced by a large margin into the bargin,it's OK as a toy for the hipster crowd,but as a practical vehicle it's sadly lacking as you say.
@@johnwood4448 And why not? H-D has been doing this for 110 years
This is one of number of bikes/scooters I am looking at. Living 2 up in a flat, the removable battery is essential as I have no other way to charge an EV, whether bike or car.
@@terrellgarren7125 Ha, I think you may have something there 🙂
I suppose they could be forgiven for not knowing how best to deploy this as a practical thing….they are still feeling out the technology and how to price it….Price being one issue…as expensive as this is…an electric bicycle…..a practical electric motorcycle that can carry some things and ride for hours and hours is going to cost more than it will ever be worth….at least in the short term. As always …we are the beta testers.
I have to say, this electric bike has captured the ‘look’ in a very pleasing way. Following your review I might very well be tempted if they’re available in the states.
It seems they are, if you go to their site and set the country to US. However it says available in California only whatever the reasoning behind that is
I think for the experience level of the expected rider and the intended use the engineering is perfect especially the ease of removing and replacing the batteries.
Agreed 100%
I like it. It’s different and looks well made. I live in the U.S., if you went in a Harley Davidson dealership and started complaining about the cost and gas mileage, they would laugh you out of there! If you want it, all the other things don’t matter. And the range would likely be ok for what most riders do in an evening ride.
I saw this at the NEC in 2021. Looked amazing. The price had me wandering off pretty quickly though. Real shame as it is lovely.
Lifetime cost recoups sticker price considerably. Basically no maintenance, cheap fuelling if you can get it.
Great review thanks. I particularly like the way you edit the descriptive detail bits into the relevant part of the ride.
Glad you like that - I think it makes for a more watchable review (although it is a bit of a pain to do).....
What a good looking bike. I would certainly consider it. I own a higher end electric bicycle and I'm constantly impressed with how well it runs. It doesn't do 50 miles and hour but it does put a smile on my face when I ride it.
Morning Andy. Nice bike but the Silence 01 has a similar range as the two battery with good underseat storage and the availability of a top box plus a faster top speed of 62 with regen braking for £1000 less.
Yeah but have you looked at a Silence01?! As a purely functional too sure, but transport is aspirational and driven by subjectivity for most, the Maeving is leagues ahead on that front
@@ashleyhazell662 yes I have looked at it, as a scooter it looks fine and for me and and the majority of small bike riders, functionality, practicality and price are more important than aspiration. The majority of low capacity bikes are bought as transport not aspirational art.
@@sergentcolon1 Young people looking for a way to get round the city will happily whack an extra £1000 on their finance agreement to ride around on a Maeving, of that I'm confident.
@@ashleyhazell662 in the U.K. not many young people ride bikes at all these days and at nearly £7k plus the huge cost for insurance charged for younger riders I doubt there will be many. This bike will be bought more by older guys as a toy like the Monkey and Dax
Nice video Andy. You are going to be very careful where you park this bike in an urban environment, a quick lift into a pick up or van and it’s gone.
What’s is the range per KW to miles and battery size ? Does the cost of electricity stack up against a 100 mpg 125 ?
It looks cool, but perhaps a warm weather bike to trundle round the village in my dotage.
I like the bike, but not yet for me.
It looks amazing. When I sat on one at the NEC a couple of years ago I was well impressed with the fit and finish and the thought and style that had gone into it! I wish they made a slightly bigger one with a 70mph limit..... but, unless I was rich, you could buy so much more bike for the money. You could get pretty much any cool retro bike you wanted, second hand, for £7k.....
Very true....
Nice review Andy. Personally if I wanted a urban electric bike for commuting I would be looking at either the super soco tc max or the horwin cr6. Both are quicker than this bike and come in just under £5k... and the horwin can also have a top box 👍. That been said I still feel electric bikes and cars have a long way to go in terms of price, range and charging times. Having watched tea pot one do his lap of the UK on one (with all the charging issues) it demonstrated that they still aren't a practical replacement for the ICE. Maybe in 7 to 10 yrs things will improve but for now I am sticking with my GS 😇. Ride safe
Are the super Soto or Horwin made in the UK?
7to10years? Nah, quicker than that with charging build-out, more stores and cafes will have chargers out front (instead of random locations with nothing to do while you wait).
I wish I had more info on QUALITY of build- supersoco seems cheap made and I've heard it is an issue. If the extra 2grand goes into higher build quality, its well worth it. Someone on here needs to do an expose/investigation of the various parts/build quality of these bikes. I got a REAL cheap Chinese scooter and had the throttle break off in my hand.
Maeving have designed and built a lovely little urban commuter, but with a Royal Enfield 350 (Classic, Meteor, or Hunter) costing so much less it is going to be hard to compete.
As a Classic 500 enjoyer, I agree.
But imagine if RE made an electric motorcycle...
@@keanuxu5435 They would have to outdo themselves to get all the bolts to rattle loose as per RE specs......
Not so hard to compete when you look beyond sticker price and consider no maintenance and cheap electricity, which reduces lifetime cost to a comparable level. And at that point no petrol fumes beats petrol fumes.
Seen a few reviews of this and I wish them all the best with their endeavour. An option to charge "On the road" at public charging points would give a little more reassurance to those with range anxiety but as an urban cruiser/utility bike it tick all the boxes. Hopefully range might even improve as battery technology improves if they can maintain the same battery configuration. It certainly peaks my interest more than a Vespa.
Looks great, and if I was a city commuter, I’d definitely have one. As a retired village dweller, I’m struggling to build a scenario for getting one, but I’m working on it…
😂 always room for one more 🤙
You could go to the Post office or pub on it😀
Pretty neat as a supplementary battery for your GoPro. Since these extended batteries became pretty large, they supply them on wheels. Don't forget the proper disposal.
I think Maeving missed a trick. It would be great if they included a plug in charge port to charge the batteries in a garage. I wouldn't expect to be able to use public chargers but being able to charge without pulling the batteries would be great.
Hopefully they will add some new and improved models to their line in the future and have that option added. I don't own one, but I do think that carrying the battery/ies inside for charging may also help reduce theft. Just a thought.
Hmmm. £7K!. It looks nice but I can't help comparing it to my 2012 Honda Innova 125 which I bought 9 years ago for £1,500. With its Honda build quality it still looks like new, is as light as a feather, will easily keep up with urban traffic and do 60 even with my considerable weight on it, and 120mpg. It has a top box, under-seat storage, and a front basket (now that IS cool in my book!). I think I'll be keeping the little Honda!
The design reminds me of early board track racers. And the removable battery packs are a nice idea.
Yes I get that too....and agreed....
Enjoyed the review as per. Really enjoyed the comments re mr flyers choice of trouser, gave me a laugh when I need it.
Seems to be a lot of jealousy amongst the beer belly brigade (whom I don't recommend the trousers too)...
Great video as always.
Looks OK but does nothing for me I'm afraid. I'd always want an engine in a bike or car. I think the electric vehicle world is one big con and some people are getting very rich on it.
I keep hearing this especially from those who haven’t tried one but I’m not sure what the reasoning is for why it is thought to be a con and how people are getting very rich by it. Surely the oil companies are Uber rich as a result of our dependance on petrol powered vehicles.
@@ianfutcher1518 how do you know I've never ridden an electric bike? If you keep hearing the same thing then maybe a lot of people don't share your opinion!
I've been in the electronic and electrical industry for 30 years, watch this space, its not sustainable, practical or environmentally friendly as they have you believe!
@@simonr1392 I don’t know if you have ridden one - have you? I’m merely asking why you think it’s a con and how people are getting very rich by it - I’m genuinely interested in your view so that I can understand objections to electric motorcycles other than generic “I don’t want one” statements because from what I can see we are currently already feeding the oil companies with massive profits. I say we because that includes me.
Why is it a 'con'? It's just an option. There's no 'con' about it. It's an electric motorcycle. And if you think people aren't getting rich from internal combustion vehicles, then I have some lovely bridges to sell to you.
Like how they have designed the batteries, no need to carry cables or rely on the temperamental charge network. Hope it does well. Nice vid .
Thanks...
They said in imterview this was why they made the battery removable.
As a commuter it lacks any storage space. Granted, you can carry a rucksack, but it’s probably only really suitable as a hipster (poseur?) hangout toy given the low range and not being able to charge out and about. There’s something about it that doesn’t do it for me visually, possibly because it looks like an odd mish-mash of bicycle and early motorcycle. As you said, a Vespa is infinitely cooler, much more practical and the best part of £2K cheaper.
That is the big issue isn't it - I agree.....
Agree on the Vespa point!
Thanks for posting. I agree with you. So far the coolest of the electric bikes I have seen so far. With the cheaper traditional bikes like the Honda/Vespa you mentioned, with a gas range approaching 100mpg (assumption on my part), you have to wonder the environmental impact of going electric at this level. Nonetheless, if I had to choose between the Honda 125 and the Maeving, I would choose the Maeving. There is a vanity factor involved, which I can't deny.
If I had to use it as actual transport for work then I'd take the Honda - if I was just nipping to the bike shed to get my chai latte and beard trimmed then this would be the bike for me...
As ever, excellent review, Andy. I'm sure some people might have spotted at 15:26 what I think might be a BSA C15 wearing a period fairing. Really cool bit of footage there - the old Brit and the new!
Well spotted!
A great video Andy an well done for continuing to showcase what's coming up on the market! As for my opinion on the bike, I'll just say that if it had a combustion engine instead of the battery one, it would be awesome, nevertheless we have to give credit to Maeving for the bike built and above for being a privately owned company trying to compete with the big ones out there! 👍👍
100% agree and I wish them the best of luck…
I cant make my mind up as to whether its an ugly thing, or design genius. That, i think, makes it spot on. Its a customisers dream. Plenty of scope to modify the rear end etc. Cost is high, yes, but its going to be, For a first proper go at one, in that design & quality, built in the uk, i think they've done great! Made near to me too. The only thing i winced at was the tang/ latch holding the 'tank' cover down. I can easily see your hand getting cut or grazed when taking the top battery out. Surely a rounded latch pin would have been a better solution. I would also have made the battery & electrics covers moulded more like a motor, or engine of sorts. If thats the only constructive criticism, i think they've done a good job!
Yes me too - if only it could be a couple of grand cheaper....
ABS saved me a couple of times as a beginner. And even with experience, you can't stop as quickly without ABS. Love everything else about this motorcycle though.
You can stop quicker without abs, if your very skilled and have time to prepare for the stop. But id have it every time in a real life emergency brake.
@@timscott3027: Yes and even than it would be very difficult: th-cam.com/video/G-GEUkiMuLk/w-d-xo.html
@UCp-kCzGdbQMncMN4o4Pb82g I saw a video of someone testing it out a few years ago I think.
I frequently see that people don't deduct potential lifetime savings from the higher sales price for electric vehicles. Practically no maintenance (especially on a hub motor bike) and presumably cheap electricity must save quite a lot of dosh but it's usually only brought up as ease of ownership. As if the sticker price on a fossil is the only money you spend and the frequent maintenance costs are irrelevant.
Another great review! 👍bike looks cool but just too expensive. There are definitely cool looking retro 125’s out there for a lot less money. I think this type of toy (and it is a toy) will have very limited sales
Not at 7 K
Do the Math. Enfield interceptor 6k 650 cc 40 plus mpg less than 5 seconds to fill up.
@@honeybadger6313 that’s exactly why I have an Interceptor 👍
What a beautiful machine. Oh, Alvin Stardust has just called - he wants his trousers back. 😉
He he - a blast from the past! Someone with similarly great fashion sense as myself....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Seriously, another excellent review, Andy. Thanks. 👍
A superb little commuter. Unfortunate that electric vehicles are still considerably pricier than their petrol equivalents, but Maeving have clearly gone down the quality route. I'd definitely have one as a 2nd bike if I had that sort of cash lying around.
I have the cash lying around but it's way too slow and too expensive for what you get for this price
A great bike for the urban environment. Looks cool, made in England. Like that you could just pull the battery out and charge it in the office.
Makes more sense than the full size electric motorcycles at 20K plus.
It certainly does!
If it was nearer 5k, with a 200 mile range it would be a very attractive option.
Honda NC750. £5k, 100mpg, empty to full in 2 minutes. I won't be buying a Maeving.
@@BibtheBoulder You summed up petrol bike ownership over electric motor bikes perfectly.
Great review and what a cool looking bike. I put one in my basket but no servicing option so took it out again. They got to show the service cost and how that works before you buy, shame because I love it.
Gotta say at the outset Andy it's just plain ugly 🤣mate you ain't selling this one to me . Man I respect your attempts at finding the positive in it but noooo.I see this as having as much visual impact as a Sinclair C5 sorry but I can't help but chuckle at you trying to find all the positives given the bikes you have in the garage . Seriously a £1,000 for a battery and ny on £7,000 to buy why on earth would you buy one .👌👍😋What a gem !!
I like it as urban transport personally - just the cost is a little high for me....
I love my Surron. Nothing will ever replace my traditional motorcycle.
Fair enough...
Hmmmm 2020 TMAX owner, 2 bags of shopping under the seat, weather protection, 120mph top end, great handling, great stopping, and i can stretch out my legs straight when i want, dont think i'll be trading it in anytime soon, thats to answer your question, however quite a nice looking machine if not a little impractical.
Thanks for the great review! Very helpful perspective.
I don't buy the entire 'loud bikes save lives' thing. Someone turning left (or right) in front of you (the most common type of accident) is still going to do so if your bike is loud. Likewise, a car shifting into your lane. Cars run into bikes because they don't see you. Even if they do hear you, if they don't see you they don't know where it is coming from--and still probably won't look for you.
Oh, and soundproofing in cars is pretty good.
A car traveling 55MPH creates 72dB of road noise. Maximum motorcycle sound level at 50' here in my home state of WA is 82dB. My cheap-o Kia is able to dampen that freeway noise to the point it is easy to carry on a conversation or listen to the radio at moderate levels. The noise of the cars around me doesn't even register, and slightly louder motorcycle doesn't either unless it is right next to my car door. So by the time even an illegally loud bike shocks someone into looking around, it's probably too late.
My source: personal experience, and many, MANY motorcycle police who have told me stories about being cut off or hit by people who didn't see them even when they had their siren going and lights flashing.
I couldn’t agree more - I once made a video on the whole “loud pipes save lives” things and drew the same conclusion…
The big M on the side reminds me of Maico motorcycles. Maico breako was the chant in the 70's. Nice first ride review.
Oh dear!
The “Bobcycle” is born 😎 nice balanced view of the bike. It won’t meet the needs of all but like you said as a town /urban transportation solution it’s not a bad option. In terms of cost I know people who spend that sort of money on a electric pushbike so there will be a market for it I’m sure.
That is very true!
I think I mentioned this in passing, on one of your great monthly bike news. It's stylish for sure, conjures up thoughts of the old 50's bikes, like the Triumph 6T or the Norton Manx, that sort of thing. The design looks well thought out and the finish looks solid. I would say it looks like a really nice little city bike, with an ease of ownership that even cyclists will appreciate. It definitely has that cool factor going on. I am not a particular fan of EV's, so it's not for me, plus EV generally is still too expensive a proposition for mass market adoption. Now taken as an art piece, devoid of batteries or electric gubbins, I could see it sitting somewhere on a dealer's shop floor for the kids to get photos on, while Dad is laying down the pound notes on that new Speed Twin he's been drooling over for 6 months 😁
I watched this late last night and have a few thoughts on the bike.
I have an E-bicycle that I used for what would be the same sort of commuting that this bike is intended for so I'll compare it to that.
My e-bike was $3800 here in Seattle and I used it every day to commute 22 miles round trip to work. De-restricted (what, me officer? nah) it will do 33mph on the flat but you have to pedal all the time, no throttle. I charge it at work and at home and can do the 11 miles each way in half an hour through city traffic.
I can fully see the appeal of this bike for that sort of work but at 7k it's quite expensive and has no real storage space when compared to a petrol scooter type that typically costs less. (as you mentioned)
It has some really nice touches, like the spare battery that I really like. My own bike has done 4000 miles on the original battery and is still going strong, I expect it will probably last another 2-3000 before I have to replace it. Batteries ARE expensive. For my bicycle IF i can still get one, it would be around $700. Tech moves on fast and older rated batteries go out of production.
This is going to be a real problem when I have to replace mine I think.
I think the only things holding this bike back are the lack of possibilities in luggage due to no pillion provision and initial cost. Once over that the lack of servicing required will pay for a 2nd battery and it really is plug and play!
Great review Andy!
Thanks Desmo - and i find myself agreeing with you 100% - gad these different sorts of machines exist though....
Looks great 👍 TMF are you wearing skinny leather trousers!!! Showing off your pins
Oh yes - bang on trend for this type of caper.....
I like it, it's cool, and the idea behind it is solid.
But it is quite a bit less practical than a scooter, but then again, bikes are less practical than cars yet we ride them anyway as well.
Quite pricey, though, yet at 7k it isn't unsurmountable, but you really need to WANT it to justify it.
All in all it's a good thing this bike exists, it really adds something to the market. Thanks for the video Andy!
Oh, and I hope the people don't confuse the RM1 with the R1M, which is a slightly different bike and maybe less beginner friendly
Nice looking machine but the range and charging is an issue for me.
I’d be bored of having to take the batteries out all the time and then the costs of charging them, and the time to charge is always a hindering factor to me.
Other than that, I think it looks great, but the cost of the whole package is just too steep, as with all electric vehicles.
Until the pricing meets reasonable levels, I won’t be looking at one.
Great review as ever.
Yes I agree....alternatives offer better value - but it is a cool machine...
A two wheeled drive version in the range would be nice! Top video as always.
Why?
@@neilurquhart8622 twice the power!
Love the looks, reminds me of the ex GPO BSA Bantam 125 I learned to ride on 50 odd (!) years ago.. 😀
I agree!
Maybe they could make one with and engine 🤣⛽️
Cheeky....
The problem as you’ve rightly mentioned is cost. I’m happy that manufacturers are starting to produce practical electric transport but they are still expensive and not yet as practical as their fossil fuel competitors.
The breakthrough for an urban electric motorcycle, in my opinion, is when it would have a top speed of 80mph, the weight close to a 140kg, 100mile range per charge and some sort of storage option even it’s in a form of a rack or a Givi style platform solution. The price would have to compete with a 250cc bike. I’d buy one if that came out as it would be practical. I don’t see a future in electric cars, not the way they don’t have standard chargers/sockets, the charging points finicky and unreliable. I think that there’s going to be a better solution in the future for energy in regards to cars than electric. But on urban bikes electric makes a lot of sense. Especially with us drop in dual battery solution as with this bike. Definitely a good direction that this British manufacturer has took with this bike and hoping they come up with more ideas in the future.
I think this one is gettibng close for urban transport - just that cost issue for me....
7 grand!!!!! Ha ha ha ha ha ha............
It is expensive but it is cool.....
Pretty cool electric bike! Thank you for the review!
No problem!
It's a nice looking bike, it's not for me but I'm glad they make it. There might come a day when disposing of end of life batteries becomes an added cost to factor in when buying any electric vehicle. Great video TMF :)
Yes good point and thank you...
Companies have been set up to recycle EV batteries. Their biggest problem is that they can't get hold of any. EV batteries are outliving the vehicles they are fitted to, and get whisked away into second lives as home backup systems.
Really?
@@TheMissendenFlyer yes so far
From what I've read a Tesla battery doesn't out live the car. EV's are an environmental disaster.
In my opinion its looks awful and i would rather give up riding than ride that thing
Blimey - a bit harsh!
@@TheMissendenFlyer The sight of it turns me right off . Sorry Andy .
No need to apologise for your opinion!
Reminds me of the Vincent Black Shadow. At that price you're correct, definitely a rich man's toy,, more so here in the USA where that's the price of a car.
Wow this thing is expensive, much better with a super soco tc max, lower cost and higher top speed.
Thanks for appreciating my pausing skills
No problem 👍
Lovely leather trousers there Andy! good to see you wearing the proper protection! The CBT need to be taken every 2 years, you should know that with Misses TMF, but I am sure lots of people have also chimed in here. Hope you are well, buddy. Battery degradation these days is hardly noticeable the technology has moved on since the original Nissan Leaf days. The road tax will be from 2025 on and the size of the bike will be incremental like they are on ICE vehicles. Can you get a Switch eScrambler? now that is super cool!
Hi Matt - good to hear from you and glad you approve of my swanky leather trousers - they seem to have caused quite a stir! ...and yes my bad on the CBT, I did of course know it was 2 years (as you say Mrs F is in the thick of that) so no idea why I made the error - sometimes when I'm talking on camera I'm quite busy thinking ahead and make silly errors like that as a result....anyway, thanks for watching and see you around!
Love it.
None bikers will too, I hope.
If that's the future, I'll have the next size up, please.
Safe,happy travels 👍
Good review as always Mr Flyer 👍. Built-in cameo footage too, you started the ride a petrol station ⛽👏😂
I’m glad you compared it to a scooter. The top speed limit of 47 confirms this. Fun around town scoot. 80 miles for a scooter is good but 40 is not adequate for my peace of mind. Price is 6999 is way over what I would pay. I’d do the top end Vespa.
Yes i think I would too....
I think I'd forego some range and use the tank section for storing small items and eliminate the top heaviness of a battery at that level, while always having a charged battery available. On second thoughts I'd probably prefer it if one or both batteries were kept down low in a more practical bike - something like big wheeled scooter, e.g.Honda Deputy/Sym Symphony, where one could take a pillion and have some parcel stash space. I'd also want the option of charging without removing the batteries.
Love your small print …. You get a like for that ❤
Thank you!
You made me laugh out loud when you had been riding for a whole and then said ' I think the left leaver is for the the rear breaks, I think that's how it works' .....epic 😁
Yes, shows how much we use the gears on a motorcycle doesn’t it!!
It does look really cool. Looks better than any other electric bike I've seen.
For someone who commutes on the motorway and goes into central London, I can imagine using my 650 to get through the motorway miles and then switching to this when I reach the ULEZ . Unfortunately despite all that cost cutting, it’s too expensive.
Will you carry it on the back of the 650?
@@ianjames3078 I have family that lives on the edge of the ULEZ zone and they dont drive, yet have a driveway. So could do it. Nevertheless. I think the cost of these things is so enormous that they may be better off having some kind of rental system and parking areas. That would require collaboration with the necessary authorities in London and we know that it wont happen.
i like the fact the batterys come off, wants a better seat and somewhere to carry stuff i think
Yes a rack would be handy I agree….
Something doesn't look right. I think I don't like that is looking something between a bicycle and a motorcycle. Not convinced with electric bikes at the moment. I test ride the Livewire ( which supposed to be a premium Harley Davidson) and I did find many issues with it. I can only imagine anything less than that specific bike ( which cost alot) would be even worse . Obviously that's just an opinion over million of users. Some will say I'm too negative but it's just an opinion. I do appreciate though taking time and making a video for something new. Always lovely to watch
Thank you - appreciate that!
I'm curious about the statistics of accidents due to quiet or silent motorbikes over the "loud pipes save lives" faction. I'm actually not so sure that electric bikes lead more people to run into them than into regular fossils.
Do like the battery pack idea - here's to them becoming 'a standard' & maybe run along similar lines to gas bottle 'rental'. eg. Open an account, exchange batteries as & when needed - any online corner shop or garage with mains power can run a charging 'station' - swap the batteries, measure the used current from your previous unit(s) & charge both them & your account accordingly.
"If you're going to the paper-shop, take my Rolls & ask them to swap the batteries over will you? . . . and the same to you!" : )
Looks a bit geeky,which Im sure will hit its target market spot on.
I will stick with my bike,at least people can hear me coming too.I run a standard pipe,its good enough.I worry if people dont hear silent bikes....
I'm sceptical about the likely sales success of this bike, in competition with much more practical and less expensive scooter options. It might be just the eco-ego thing for an affluent city-dweller, when not using their gas-guzzling SUV. Ideal also for motorhome owners who want to leave the campsite without packing everything up. Its small size and light weight would be a security advantage if you don't have a garage - you could just wheel it into the hallway, like a bicycle. On the down side, you would need to recharge it after every ride, and would rapidly tire of removing those batteries. I am surprised that Maeving have not provided an option of charging the batteries in situ, like on many electric golf carts.
Hi Andy
Another great review. Just wanted to mention you state that CBT needs renewal every year at 11.55 mins. I have just checked, and its actually every 2 years. Might make possible new riders re consider starting
Yes my bad - apologies for that….
Looks awesome, they did a great job on it. Performs a bit lower than it's competition, but looks a lot better than the Sondors.
Love it, can't afford it, not that it will come to Canada anyway. Good review, cheers.
Great review as always. Positive take on an interesting bike.
Nice looking, very stylish.
I'd be scared (if this kind of bike becomes commonplace) people may just take a crowbar to it and take the batteries out. Or did you feel they were adequately secure against basic tools?
I mean it's a 1000 pound battery if you look at their pricing on their website. That's 2000 pounds worth of battery
They seemed secure to me but that is an interesting point I hadn't thought of!
The removable battery pack definately the way forward as a commuter vehicle.Pop into work and put your battery on charge next to your phone and scoot home later on a full charge! Probably going to get grief from the big wheel brigade but as a commuter I feel the scooter format is more practical with greater inboard storage and a degree of weather protection
Exactly!
Who knew Mr Flyer was a hipster 😂 Looking good and a great review!
Thanks! 👍
Later Down the pub...
What ya got ?
An RM1
💪😃👍
Looks are subjective but I think it's a monstrosity! However, I can see why it would be good in a big city, but that price! 😳
Lookin good in the leather trousers Andy. Bet Mrs Flyer likes u in them! 🙂
Thank you Aid - they do tend to drive women (and a few fellas) a little crazy when I wear them for sure....bang on trend urban fashion those....you wait, everyone will be wearing them soon.
A bit odd looking. I love the front fender though.😄 I know. Silly isn't it, but few things annoy me as much as a stubby front fender permitting road debris to assault the motor. I wasn't satisfied with Wing fender. I found a good extension for it.
Hmmm, I had not thought about hearing the workings of a motorcycle without the sound of an engine drowning 'em out. I guess that is more s slow speed phenomenon than high speed.
I hope a small rack is available for grocery store errands and the like.
Yes defo only at slow (manouvring) speeds....
Thank you another great review...
My pleasure!
I've got one and I think it's great, handy if you live in a city
I rode this at the NEC and it really does feel like you are riding a bicycle, we were limited to the low power mode but I think for a urban piece of transport it would be great, but the price needs to come down for something like this to be viable for the people that will buy this.
Yes it will be interesting to see how they do at this price - cool looking thing though…
Everything was going so well and then the £7,000 bomb drop. Beautiful bike though - shame about the price.
Yes it is a little salty compared to the competition isn't it....
Another interesting and informative video Andy - thank you. Liked the looks of the bike and ease of use but I would be interested to get your thoughts on -
1. Lack of luggage carrying ability. No provision on the Maeving web site for a rear carrier, tank bag etc so it would appear rucksack only?
2. Cost of running compared with a small, equivalent ICE scooter. I would think with higher energy prices for the foreseeable future, the cost benefit of electric has reduced.
3. What do you think about the bikes future residuals? Batteries are guaranteed for 3 years, but what would be the bikes value based on the fact that the batteries might be coming to the end of their service life when the bike is, say, 30 months old etc? I often wonder how “attractive” they will be once they are a few years old.
4. Finally, what if Maeving as a company do not survive? Are the batteries used in other bikes or dies the bike become obsolete / worthless?
Regards
Bob
Excellent questions Bob - your guess is as good as mine on those!
With 100 mile range and 47 mph top speed, can you imagine how well this would sell if it was $4500-$4700 for one battery and $5200-$5300 for two? I'd love this bike but, not at this price.
Lovely aesthetics. I'm very very pro EV, but such a quiet bike, IDK. I wonder how much the saying "loud pipes save lives" comes into play? I suppose time and statistics will tell us.
Did you notice if the bike had running lights. I’d be reluctant to let my kid out on a silent bike especially with no lights . But it’s a beautiful bit f engendering .. another great vid x
I can't 100% remember but I'm pretty sure it did,just like any motorcycle....
Suspension seems hard as you can here your voice bouncing with the road. Looks like they have taken a bike from the war and put a motor into it and for the money i would expect better storage on the bike for commuting. Still not impressed with electric as being 55 i love the sound and grunt of my Tiger 900. Great vid Andy, keep em coming.
Will do Chris - cheers....
The range is great but for commuting into town I'd really like to see a 60 mph top speed to keep up with traffic on the country roads before hitting town, and ABS / TC for the wet and twisty lanes. I'd certainly pay extra for that. Now I can understand why a lot of people compare these negatively to 125cc scooters but as many work places, like mine, let you charge electric bikes / scooters for free one of these could be run for next to nothing.
It just needs a clothes peg and some cardboard in the rear spokes, for a bit or a roar.
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Their website says 40 mile range wouldn't even get me to work and back!
11:55 - Just a note here, CBT is every two years, not every year.
Yes my error - apologies - several have pointed it out....
I actually love the idea of walking through a city without all the noise pollution from road vehicles. It'd be nice if people could just learn to use their eyeballs when they're on or near a road.
This would be perfect for my cross town commute .
Like the bike, like the concept… too expensive in my opinion but the highlight for me was your ‘sprayed-on’ leather jeggings… a very bold choice sir, very bold indeed… much love ❤️🤣👍👍
That sir is a bang on trend fashion choice right there....
@@TheMissendenFlyer … 👍👍👍🥰🥰
...glad you approve :0)
Hi mate. I know you love small dual sport bikes as you’ve delved a little into that territory when you bought the CRF250L some years back. Now there’s an electric option which comes in the form of the Chinese, Surron Storm Bee Electric Motorcycle. Does 132kg, 60 mile range, 69mph top speed, four riding modes, abs, traction control, regen braking on an enduro bike sound? I’d be happy if you manage to find one and give it a go. It’s the most exciting electric in my books.
Is it legal?? I'll look it up....
@@TheMissendenFlyer yes it’s legal. There are many upgrade kits to these bikes as well. It’s what the SV650 was back in the noughties.
Looks very cool!
Interesting thing! But mr Flyer, I need to point something out.
First you start at a petrolstation with a comment. I hope we some day don't think or talk as if electric and petrol fueled bikes are eachothers rivals. They all need fuel, just a different kind.
It's not how many parts that makes the bike reliable or not. A crappy motor and it's enough with one part!
That "bugeye" camera is something I would not miss if you stopped using it!
That was me, the ol' fart!
But there are a lot of positive things about this bike. That battery solution is interesting! And the design! And the fact it is not a speedmonster! Well done mr Flyer!
Thanks for watchinbg anyway John - I try and limit the "bug eyed" camera use but it is useful for showing riding position on the various bikes I ride....
@@TheMissendenFlyer That makes sense! Hmm...that's actually a good idea! Never thought about it like that! Thank you mr Flyer!
Looks like a great little bike but i will stick to my Tmax560 for now