I have owned a 650GS for the last four years and there is nothing in this video that I can argue with. It is easy to ride, forgiving, and infinitely practical so much so that it has become my main mode of transport over the car. Everything from camping tours, city traffic, shopping, even carrying sacks of coal for the fire in the winter months. Being short, it is the only enduro i can ride comfortably and i have been able to pick this up on my own, even when fully loaded with my camping gear. Easy to work on too, I do all my own maintenance. The exception is valve clearances. And yes, not the most attractive of bikes, the silver paint on the engine has a habit of peeling off, other things to look for is an appetite for head bearings, (roughly every 15000 miles) and water pump wear, though mine is still ok at 48000 miles. Go for the 2004 onwards twin spark bikes.
Thanks for the comment and for participating in the conversation. Riders looking at this bike will appreciate your insight. Im glad you found the review accurate. I also welcome you to watch my review of the Sertao - one of the best bikes Ive owned with all the necessary uogrades for more serious adv touring. More 650 thumper adv bike reviews are in the making so I hope you consider subscribing and that I hear from you the near future. Cheers. Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for another great video. As a long time biker with almost 50 bikes owned in last 40 years of riding, i really appreciate how much research and ownership experience you build up before giving a review. Much better than these guys that go to a bikeshop(armed with latest go pro) and climb on a bike for 1st time and ride around the city streets blabbering rubbish with alot of swearing at cars and traffic. Keep up the excellent work!!
Precisely- I couldn't agree with you more. I can't handle another "review" with a kid talking into his helmet riding boring streets never before having ridden that actually bike being reviewed. I try to put more effort into the production and am always grateful to receive feedback. Thank you so much. It keeps me motivated since TH-cam does their best to remove all control and monetary incentive for independent, sponsor free channels like mine. Glad to have you. Ps, I've reviewed every competitor in this class including the Sertao in case you are comparing. Best Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours I was deciding between the BMW and the KLR650. Your videos definitely helped me make up my mind. I look forward to a fuel injected KLR650. Thanks for great videos
I was considering buying an F650GS and stumbled upon this video while doing my research. You have covered every question i had. Great video. I will go back to the seller and make an offer. Thanks
Excellent. I also have s comparison of the KLR vs Dr, that's actually the highest watched video in this channel. I'm releasing a review of the hills XR 650 and the Royal Enfield Himalayan in a few weeks as well so I hope you consider subscribing.
Very pleasantly done thank you! I am a returner to motorcycling and have discovered off roading in the mountain regions of Spain where I now live. I had a guided tour in Cantabria a couple of days ago, renting a small 250 mutt motorcycle and remembered how great it felt to be on two wheels again going up mountain passes and steep slopes covered in scree. I am looking for a smallish bike, 400cc upwards, a Himalayan, or the F650, and found your channel. Thank you for the way you present, you come across as a quiet, respectful, thinking, compassionate man, and that resonates with me. You have another subscriber! Take care. Mark
Greetings Mark. Welcome back to the channel, and to motorcycling. If you ever find yourself in Southern California, I'd be happy to offer you a private tour. We are fortunate here. Ps, I've also reviewed the Himalayan albeit not very favorably. I've reviewed every 650 cc adv thumper on this channel so you have lots of comparisons. Good luck with your search. Cheers. Nik
Thanks for watching and for the complement - glad you found the video helpful. Please stay tuned for a new review of the Sertao, as well as my newest bike, the rare BMW G650XChallenge.
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. PS: A new review is premiering today, in an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
That must have been such an awesome trip and adventure. I returned to Brazil with my wife (we met there year prior) and the experience was very tense honestly. I don't think I'd be able to relax with her on the back. The situation there overall is getting really tense, especially in places around the Amazon due to illegal logging and mining - the road you mentions I believe is referred as the Ghost Road - I was more west towards the Border with Peru. Ride safe and thanks for participating in the conversation. Cheers - Nik
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. PS: A new review is premiering today, in an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
You really covered the details on this bike, and I appreciate that. I'm on the east coast US but I have ridden in NM and CO on really gnarly trails and fire roads. Was looking at F650GS as a potential overlander/camping bike. Now I have to watch the Dakar/Sertao review though lol
Thank you again for being here and for participating in the conversation. I would urge you to check my Sertao review out before pulling a trigger because at the end of that review I reveal another 650BMW that is much more dirt oriented, rare, and super light (in comparison) That is the bike I ride today due to all of the factors above. The BMWG650XChallenge. Thank you again for being here and for participating in the conversation. Three more 650thumper reviews are in the making (Honda XR650L, KTM SXC635 and the XChallenge) so I look forward to hearing from you then. Be well in the meantime- Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Thank you so much - that's a huge compliment. I appreciate it. That keeps me motivated. Please stay tuned for a new reviews of the DRZ400, the BMW Sertao, and of the rare BMW G650XChallenge.
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
What a great vid, 20 mins flew by. I've got G650GS, excellent bike. Loved hearing your personal experience of the GS along with the anecdotal stuff, Cheers!
Thanks again for the support. Yes, definitely and awesome line of the 650. Shame they got rid of it. I also reviewed the very cool Sertao and currently own the xChallenge, which is rare. All great capable bike.
Thanks for the great video. Sharp and honest analysis. Just bought a 2005 F650 GS model with low miles. Very happy with it on and off road. Watching your video was key in the decision process. Thought about the Sertao, but stayed with the F650 GS based on seat height. Keep it up.
Great to hear that this review was helpful and CONGRATS - you'll love the bike. I made a tutorial of how to improve the stock kickstand easily and cheaply albeit on the Sertao/Dakar It is basically the same motorcycle, to be very honest, aside form the aesthetics mostly noticeable in the front end. The rear subframe is entirely the same, dimension wise, so much so that luggage racks and carriers are for the most part interchangeable. I review the G650GS as well so please take a look at that to get more insights into their differences and similarities. I have reviewed most of the 650 ADV thumpers on this channel, so please take a look through my videos. I also still have in my garage waiting to get reviewed the Honda XR650L and KTM SXC 625, as well as the BMW XChallenge. Also, some great news, Kawasaki invited me to their press release and extended review of the new KLR being release later this year so stick around for that and please consider subscribing to be informed when these come out. In the meantime, thanks again for being here and Congrats once more! Cheers - Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Great to hear you found it valuable. If you like the scenery, I lead tours here in Southern California, and more details are on my website. Cheers. Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Hi Nik - So please do let me know, in the previous GS video you had a gripe of no fuel indicator. I'm thinking of getting a Sertao here in Australia, having been former owner of Vstrom (not enough suspension in rougher terain) and Africa Twin (way too big and heavy and I recently crashed it and broke my leg!). As I heal up, I am thinking of the GS650 Sertao, but often I end up doing 80% road to do 20% dirt. What's your take on Sertao's performance/noise sitting on 100/110 on road? One TH-cam review suggested neutral is an issue on the gearing - is it an issue you've encountered? Many thanks. My only concern is coming from twin, single may just been too underpowered on 100km/h run down highways at length....
Thanks for writing all the way from Germany. I am glad to hear it - My Sertao has only 2000 miles on the clock, so I look forward to riding it till the wheels fall off. Greetings from San Diego - I hope you all are staying safe. Cheers - Nik
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
my 1st motorcycle was a YBR 125 cc, man i have good memories with that bike but i later upgraded to the GS650, the difference is crazy, i haven't used it enough to give a proper review but i am hoping to create new memories with it.
Enjoy it, it's a great bike with lots of possibilities. I look forward to hearing from you in future reviews. I also reviewed the related Serrtao and will be releasing a review of my BMW Xchallenge - basically a more capable version of the GS. Stay tuned.for that review coming in a few weeks - it's a rare bike and one of the best in the GS line. Cheers. Nik
Great video. I ride an Aprilia Pegaso and love it, dual carbs and all! The650cc Rotax engine has great power and torque. Can’t imagine why anyone would need anything more.
Thank you for watching and for adding your opinion about that increasingly rare motorcycle. I'm always curious about unique bikes like that and imagine the two carbs benefits torque and power delivery. I'm just not a fan of cleaning. But I would love to experience the EFI version the newer Picasso generation that I don't think was sold in the US. But the road texture is an awesome motorcycle. The next review will be of my Aprilia futura which has that same road text twin engine that was used in the RSV mile. And if you like these reviews please be sure to check out my other 650 adventure touring thumper motorcycle reviews, some of them are fairly hard to find bikes like the BMW x challenge and the ktm sxc 625. Thanks for being here
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Great video, fully agree with the description of the F650 GS. 2001 make owner here, visited with it 39 countries and gathered 172 thousand kilometers on it. My first and only bike, will never sell it.
It's an honor to have you. And I'm very happy to hear a person of your caliber agrees to my review. I have also owned and reviewed the Sertao and the cross challenge
Great video, thanks. I rode a BMW R80G/S from 82-89 in Africa & loved it. I've ridden road bikes since but next year want a Dakar or Sertao. I wanted to hear another opinion & delighted you like it so much. I'll buy one in 12 months.
Thank you for watching. If you like the GS 650 line, take a look at my playlist to see my review of the Serrtao, previously the Dakar version. Still one of the best looking bikes in this class. Cheers. Nik
Great review. Both excellent bikes for their intended purpose. I'm contemplating entering the adventure bike world & being only 5' 7" with only a 29" inseam I'm leaning (no pun intended!) towards the F650GS.
That will be a good choice since it's one of the more capable bikes with a lower seat height - you will enjoy it. Thanks for participating I the conversation - you are In the right place since this channel is dedicated to ADV touring. Cheers - Nik
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
It is not unfortunately. There are rising links you can instal for the rear but the front is limited to the fork length. Adjusting only one height will negatively affect the geometry and ride quality.
Thanks for sharing! Currently looking for my first motorcycle and the F650GS was one of the candidates, you can pick one up for cheap here in Europe. Can't say the same for the KLRs though
I have a KLR650 Gen.1 which I consider to be the best of the KLR variants. It does everything without missing a beat, it's only downfall really the balance chain tensioner system but once that's replaced with the torsion spring mod. it is no longer an issue. I like simple, cheap motorcycling because then I can service my machine, and with it being cheap it means more trips because I have no overheads other than basic maintenance. Both these bikes will do this, but I will stay loyal to my "bullet proof" KLR even though both the Dakar and Sertao are head turners (I have been tempted) and somewhat prettier !!
Thanks for watching and for participating in the conversation. The new KLR still holds its place in the ADV community. I was just given the newest one to review by Kawasaki and that review is coming out this Saturday in case you are curious - it is a much improved bike albeit 50 pounds more than your version. I also reviewed the Sertao on this channel but own the lighter XChallenge - amazing motorcycle. Thanks for the support and happy new year. Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Many thanks and glad you found the review valuable. If you liked this one, be sure to check out my review of the BMW Sertao - much more dirt oriented and handsome motorcycle. I also pit the KLR against the DR650, and the most popular review on this channel is of only the KLR. There are three more 650 thumper sin the garage waiting to be reviewed so I hope you subscribe and stick around to see those.Cheers - and thanks for being here- Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Yes, they should for the most part since the changes were largely aesthetic. This was a 2003. Next model switched from F to G, bit for a year or two BMW continued with the F650GS even though it was an 800cc twin. Silly in my opinion.
very well said as F650 owner as well that has ridden KLRs they really are two different bikes. That said i completely agree the engineering put into the mid 2000s dual spark F650 is pretty much spot on. it has all the things you need and is still simple and efficient.
Thank you, good video. One point I was wondering, what is the top speed on a freeway, you touched on that more or less saying 80 mph - is that correct? It's faster than the KLR that way?
To speed is close to 120 but honestly anything above 100 is sketchy because the 21 front typically with knobbies start to make the front feel too light and loose for comfort. The Beemer is definitely pepper and more responsive, and more stable at speed since it has a smaller front wheel.
Great video thank you! I'm looking at getting my first road bike and am really interested in the F650 GS. Perhaps its slightly biased by the fact my dad and uncles have all had the R1200/1250 GS for as long as I can remember. My only concern is that it might be a bit small as I've read a few comments of people having this issues. At 6'3 would you still recommend?
Thanks for watching. I've reviewed other bikes from the gs line as well as nearly everything other competidor in the 650 line. The tallest of them is on the honda xr650L. Have you considered the 800/850 gs? Cheers. Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours I've ridden the xr650r and really enjoyed it, but I recently moved to the city for university and wanted something solid for commuting purposes as well as adv riding. The 800 gs would be ideal, but its slightly out of my budget and not permitted in Australia on your learners unfortunately. I think I'll go with the f650gs. Thanks again Nik
I've seen this video, ate least 3 times, it is so rich in information and experiences that there's always something to catch each time. And thanks to it i'm a proud owner of a F650GS (the injection made me choose the BMW, but I would like to drive a KLR someday). Keep up the good work Obrigado pela partilha Thanks for sharing Merci d'avoir partagé.
Obrigado para teu apoio - and thank you for being here and for the kind words. I am happy to hear this video helped you make a decision you seem happy with (and I hope you watched my review of the BMW Sertao as well since they are related). As for the KLR, the new one just announced will have EFI - so it is much improved and fairly attractive - everyone is excited about it, as am I. Stay tuned for that review and ride safe - thanks again - Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Most serious bike shops in America are traditionally closed on mondays. Sunday is race day...and folks need a day to get back home from travelling to race tracks.
That is some excellent information that I will admit I did not know - I do hope the shop folks still get. change to hit the track or the woods o the weekend. I respect that bit of info, but I think in place like Moab an exception must be made since there are so many riders I the backcountry over the weekend. I can't help but be bitter about loosing 4 days of riding and shooting to a simple plastic part. Thank you for being here and for participating I the conversation. I invite you to run through the motorcycle review playlist on this channel to get inspired about other options available to you in the 650 ADV category. I have reviewed/or am editing reviews of nearly every 650 ADV touring motorcycle in the used market including the awesome BMW Sertao which is a world of improvement on this GS. th-cam.com/video/ph5ELUGizxQ/w-d-xo.html If you enjoyed this I also invite you to definitely take a look at the most watched video on my channel, and that is a review of the DR650 vs KLR650 th-cam.com/video/xiHzulc5r7s/w-d-xo.html Kawasaki liked it so much they invited me to the press release of the new KLR later in the year so please consider subscribing to get notified when that comes out. Also, this Saturday at noon I will premier a new review of the Honda NC700X - another great bike for the ADV community, and at the end I show which other 650 Thumper reviews are upcoming. Be well in the meantime and I hope to hear form you in the future. Cheers, Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
One more question... given the choice would you recommend/go with the post 2007 F650GS with the parallel Twin 800 or the previous F600GS single piston 650. I am too short for the G650 GS unfortunately... Could you give me your thoughts please?
Thanks for the questions. The 650 thumper sits lower and is lighter. I'm 5.8 and appreciate the lower seat height. It has plenty of power, bit ofcourse the two. Is smoother. So I'd say stick with either the f650gs until 2003, and g650gf thumper later on. I've also owned that rares ga 640 version title XChallenge. That's the best offroader yet. Stay tuned for that review.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Much appreciate the details... the models certainly are a little confusing... then they have the international models with some different etc. Crazy reading through all of it. That Austrian Rotax engine seems to be very highly regarded. Will certainly check out your video about the xchallenge, though finding one in these parts would be impossible. Thank you for your time and expertise!
You deserved the full 20min of my busy time. What a great review! Im really considering this bike as my next one. I was a bit worried about it's behaviour on difficult off road and on long on-road fast cruise speeds, being a single cylinder but now i know that it's good enough. My actual bike is and Honda Varadero XLV125, a great adv 125cc bike but it's time to move on
Time is invaluable and I thank you for giving it - and am happy to hear you found it well spent, and the review informative and helpful. You wont be disappointed - since you have dirt background, have you considered the Dakar or Sertao? I would urge you to check my Sertao review out before pulling a trigger because that might be more up your alley. At the end of that review I reveal another 650BMW that is much more dirt oriented, rare, and super light (in comparison) That is the bike I ride today due to all of the factors above. The BMWG650XChallenge. Thank you again for being here and for participating in the conversation. Three more 650thumper reviews are in the making (Honda XR650L, KTM SXC635 and the XChallenge) so I look forward to hearing from you then. Be well in the meantime- Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours I saw that video too! Another great review :) I would prefer the sertao version for better off road specs but a friend of mine is selling me a standard f650gs with only 24.000 km and I think it's a nice opportunity. Also, I would share the bike with my father and he hates the dirt. Keep like that! Nice videos, very informative and interesting! Cheers:)
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
I liked your video. I bought a 2004 two years ago. It's yellow as well. It was a bit neglected, and needed a lot of minor work. But it came with all the luggage, and both standard and low seats. I agree with all the good things you said. Fuel range is amazing. I get 390 k befor the fuel light comes on, and still have apx 4 litres left.
Great to hear it and glad you found the review valuable and accurate. If you like this one be sure to check out my BMW Setao review - definitely a better bike for ADV touring. I have three more bikes in the garage waiting for their reviews in the same 650 thumper class so please stay tuned and consider subscribing to be informed when that comes out. We just released a new video listing all the reviews coming up in 2021 so please take a look. Cheers - Nik
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. I hope you also had the chance to watch my G650GS Sertao Review - one of my favorite motorcycles for sure. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
I'm looking at some F650GS's now. Nice bikes. I'm 5'9". What do you think the maximum rider height is to be to still be comfortable on a long trip on a F650GS? It's one thing to be standing on the pegs a lot, but quite another to be seated on the highway for hours at a time.
I have a choice and because of my age above 60 I was wondering what would you buy as your last bike purchase in your life. a 2003 BMW f650gs with 12,000 miles or a 2022 KLR 650 abs with 6,000 miles for 2,000 more? I will do 70% road 30% mountain back road coal mining roads but very few single tracks. I'm 6ft 185lbs and will do 50% road riding with 100LB pasenger. I will be doing 100% maintenance inc tire tube changes. I will average 6,000 miles per year total. thank you so much for your reply.
I would say go with the newer bike. 20 years is a good amount of time on a motorcycle. The killer will meet your needs but the suspension might be a little too soft for two up riding. I've reviewed the new KLR and you can see that in my playlist. Good luck and safe travels and if I can be of any assistance regarding any trips, please don't hesitate to ask. Last year we launched our Eastern Sierra tour which is amazing, but I also do Southern California tours as well as tours of the Southwest starting and ending in Las Vegas. A must for any Adventure touring Rider. Safe travels
It's great to see reviews and comparisons by someone that has real life experience and use of Adventure motorcycling. I personally feel that motorcycles have gotten ridiculously large on and off the road and therefore in both cases have lost the feeling of the machine being a extension of your body. I want to go back to something simpler and easier to maintenance.
Great to have you here, thanks for watching and for the support. I totally agree with you, and that's why I only tour with 650 thumpers. All my touring bikes like the XChallenge bmw or the ktm EXC are under 350 lb. I just finished a review of the newest klr so please tune in next weekend to see what that bike is all about. Thanks again. Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for watching and greetings from San Diego. I have family in Madrid. Safe travels. If you liked this review please take a look at.my BMW Sretao review, and I will be releasing a review of the Honda XR650L this Saturday which is in the same class. Cheers.
Loved your review! Been riding for years. Try filtering your gas through a chamois in questionable areas. Also, you could put an aviation oat(outside air temperature gauge) through your windscreen for temp.
We have both models in the US, but both are fairly uncommon on the road. I had and have reviewed the Sertao, so please take a look at that video - it was my favorite motorcycle in the 650 ADV class, until I found another rare BMW which is.... well, please watch the review :) Thanks for bein here.
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for this. I have the F650gs Dakar and also this disease where I am always wanting to upgrade and ride bigger, newer bikes, even though I have no real reason to justify the expense. This will help me control that urge and stick with my F650 for a while longer...maybe. It's the Harley rider in me I think that is the cause of such urges.
Hey - nothing wrong with satisfying an urge like that. I also have the same problem, and an additional one in living in such a rich market as is Southern California where one can find the best deals on even the rarest of motorcycles fairly often (just picked up a Honda NC700X 15 minutes ago actually). I am always on the market searching for the next thing - if you liked this bike, please consider subscribing to get notified when the next review is release next week - it is of your bike, just newer - the Sertao (but watch at your own risk cause it might tickle that itch again) It's such a great bike. And after that is another 650 which is rare and is the bike that made me sell the Sertao which I was sure I'd be keeping. I'll keep that a surprise - you'll have to tune in and watch the Sertao review till the end to see what bike I am talking about (hint -also a BMW) Welcome to the channel and hope to hear form you then! - Nik
@@scottrodcustoms1 I would suggest you keep an eye on the market and be ready to pull the trigger if a Sertao emerges for a good price, since at the moment you would be able to get just as much money for your Dakar (one I just saw last week was listed at $5.5, and the guy won't budge - that's a price of the Sertao.) So no need to loose money if you are flexible. In any case glad to have you here!
I was ready to sell my bmw f650gs 2004 model cause I wanted something with more power and a little big bigger cause I am 1.94 meters BUT I simply cant give it away.. this bike is so light, so easy to drive, so low fuel consumption that im thinking of keeping it and continue my trips with it all around the world...
I too have decided to sell the KLR and keep the GS - and every time I sat on the KLR I felt it was too bulky and not nearly as agile enough in comparison. Thanks for the comment. Cheers-Nik
you could get the dakar version of the GS, it's a little taller but also a little more expensive. the main difference to the regular gs is the suspension and the front wheel which is a 21 inch on the Dakar.
@@simonemmert9824 yes I know! I was aiming to buy the Dakar version but I couldn't find a single one that is being sold in a good condition so I bought the basic version...
@@simonemmert9824 No doubt, you are preempting the next video which reviews my F650GS Sertao. - the evolved Dakar. I think it's one of the best ADV bikes on the market so please stay tuned for that review, and thanks for being a part of this awesome community. Cheers - Nik
The f650gs single is probably one of the best designs that BMW ever made. It is a pity they stopped producing it in this stupid race for more horsepower. A lot of people still don't understand that a motorcycle needs 2 sturdy wheels and a simple reliable engine to serve all purposes. Now, why put electronics on bike to tame down its too powerful engine instead of developing a great and more reliable engine built with modern materials, I for one cannot understand.... I've owned my 650gs for over 14 years now without a single issue and to be honest nothing on the market convinced me to change. I think I'll keep riding it until no spare parts are available and then turn it into a collectible as it deserves. Hurray for this video, it is great to see these bikes are still properly appreciated after all these years. And by thw way, BMW...please begin building proper bikes again, you're losing all your serious GS customers...
Thanks for that comment and for participating in the conversation. I agree with you on all points. We need lighter, smaller, more reliable, simple motorcycle for serious ADV touring. The BMW I continue to own was all of those - GS650X-Challenge - have you heard of it? This will be. coming review so please stay tuned and consider subscribing. Thanks for being here! Nik
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. I hope you also had the chance to watch my G650GS Sertao Review - one of my favorite motorcycles for sure. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Servicing the f650gs is a abit of a pain especially when the previous owner stripped half of the torx bolts but otherwise a fair review. I have both of these bikes (tengai) and a tt350. The bmw is complex the klr easy and tt ridiculously simple to work on.
True True - I really hate the hex bolts. Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. PS: A new review is premiering today, in an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Thinking more and more lately about adventure / rtw riding and considering between DR650, F650GS, KLR650, V-Strom 650. Something around 600cc, simple and reliable but being only 170cm tall I guess it narrows it down. Thank you for amazing comparative review.
Glad to have you and glad you enjoyed the review and found it useful. I too am 172cm so seat height is important to me - the GS is by far the most accessible of the bunch. Please take a look at the DR vs KLR review I posted a few months back for some more information about this class. I am finishing up a review of the BMW Sertao. -probably the best of the bunch, so please consider subscribing to be notified when that comes out. Great to have you here! Cheers - Nik
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. I hope you also had the chance to watch my G650GS Sertao Review - one of my favorite motorcycles for sure. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
@@pegasusmotorcycletours the new KLR 650 is a great bike, and you're right about the military paint scheme being too much outside of the US. I've been to Mexico twice and North Africa once. Some places (maybe even most places) outside CONUS being military causes unwanted attention
Completely agree with your opinions . I have a BMW 650 twin , and a Suzuki dr200 . I would much prefer my dr200 for off road stuff or riding the americas . My 650 is good for ‘ concession road ‘ type travelling ., I agree with your carb comment though .
Great video, have one 2004 the same colour. Would you please let me know where I can get all equipment needed for repair tire, change oil....all you would recommend for longer trip. thank you. Bob Popelka
Greetings bob. Thanks for watching. If you are interested in how it compares to the new klr, I just released a review two weekends ago of the 2022 KLR 650. As for your other question, I get all my gear tools and equipment at a local motorcycle supply shop. By the way you spell color, am I correct to assume you live in uk?
Also, to your other question regarding the gear I take on longer trips, I will make a longer more inclusive video about that topic soon, but in the meantime in my newest KLR 2022 review, I review the luggage and everything that I take in it. So you'll get some great ideas of all the bare essential tools and equipment you need even for a weekend trip. For any other advice or assistance or consulting service, please visit my website to see all that I offer in that regard. Thanks again for reaching out.
I agree completely that the motor w/the FI makes these bikes, the rear factory rack is silly, and also that it's absurd to not have a fuel gauge. I have an '05 Dakar that I have swapped the suspension (KTM White Power front, HyperPro rear), 18" rear rim, and a proper headlight, plus an aftermarket saddle and some bar risers, really make the bike so much more fun and safe to ride on backcountry roads. I would love an updated model with the Rotax, a lightweight frame, real suspension, a similar small but useful fairing and a solid gauge package. Thanks for the great video.
Thanks for being here and for participating in the conversation. That sounds like a killer bike you got there. I just picked up a competitor KTM 625 - amazing WP suspension with over 11 inches of travel (12.6 in the rear). Very much looking forward to what it can do. Be sure to watch my next review of the Sertao - the modern Dakar. That's one of the newer, more popular reviews. Also, please consider subscribing to get notified when I release the upcoming reviews of three more competitors in the 650 category - BMW XChallenge, KTM SXC625 and Honda XR650L. We also have exciting announcement to make closer to the new year. Cheers - Nik
You get used to the lack of fuel gauge on the KLR. You get to know the fuel level by distance traveled. I agree it is ridiculous to not have one stock, but it its what it is.
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. I hope you also had the chance to watch my G650GS Sertao Review - one of my favorite motorcycles for sure. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the great video. I am new to riding and have wanted the BMW GS for a number of years. Curious, what year is the 650 that you are reviewing here? I find the oil change on the earlier models to be a bit wanky. I am looking for a 2009 and up. Peace and safe travels.
Welcome to the channel and thanks for being here. You are in the right place because my channel is primarily devoted to ADV touring. This was a 2003. But I also review the more capable F650GS Sertao so I highly suggest you look at that review. More 650 thumper adv bike reviews are in the making (3 more being revealed in the next video coming out this or next sat. so I hope you consider subscribing to get notified. (I talk about my current garage which includes 9 motorcycles, one of which is the most capable 650 Bmw in the gs adv bike lineage that is very lught and rare. Hope to see you there. Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Hello if your planning on coming to Aus, stop in for a coffee / meal. I live on the Central Coast about 100km north of Sydney . I just noticed that this video was posted about a year ago. Anyway safe travelling
I appreciate that invite. Very generous of you. The same goes if you are in San Diego. I'll definitely take you up on your hospitality if the opportunity arrives. Be well in the meantime and thanks for the support.
The 650 is typically a single cylinder. I say typically, because there was a few years where BMW for whatever reason named its 800 a 650 even though it was a twin cylinder 800cc motor. Pretty weird of them to do that.
I've owned 4 bmw autos, spent 2 grand total.. if bought new they would of been around 200 grand.. why I chose a KLR, I'm cheap!.. and I like reliability and parts when needed.. love my klr, & it's actually more comfortable as a ride for me
I agree - reliability is so important and the new KLR actually looks attractive as well. You can't beat reliability. Thank you for that, and thanks for being here - glad to hear you found the review helpful. Please consider subscribing to get notified when other reviews come out in this 650 class, - 3 more are in the making, of the Honda XR650L, KTM625 SXC, and BMW XChallenge. By then I will have a complete review of the 650 thumper ADV lineup on this channel. I hope you get the chance to watch all the other 650 reviews I have made already (BMW G650GS, F650GS, KLR) as well as the DRZ400S - you might be surprised by that bike. Be well in the meantime. Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for being here. I am all about the weight savings but Australia has a lot of straight and fast roads, so in this case it's up to you since all of these are not uncommon there and would be easy to service. If you are planning mostly road riding and easy dirt, go with the faster, more powerful bike. If it were the Alps, I'd go lighter, but in the outback a big bike is less of a burden and more usable. Although I love Hondas (three In the garage ATM including one form the 70s and a XR650L. -review coming soon), the BMW packs more tech and is newer so they are not real competitors, if you have the choice. Best of luck and please get in touch after your trip - I'd be very curious to hear what you go with and how it went. Cheers. -Nik
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Northern San Diego county - congrats on the purchase - you'll love it. If you'd like some one on one coaching in the field, that exactly what I do, and so cal has a number of great rides/roads of increasing difficulty.
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
I'm looking into getting the GS's cousin, the F650 CS (Scarver). They're super cheap and seem to be perfect for commuting and a bit of weekend fun. They have the same engine as the GS. Is there anything in particular I should check (like a visible/audible fault) when looking to buy?
Yeah, that's Avery interesting bike and you don't see them often on the road. Less capable in dirt but could still do some easy fire roads. How to purchase used is the next video in line - there are. Aton of little tell tale signs to look out for - please stay tuned. My main suggestion for you for now before that video comes out is to avoid any bike that's been crashed (the old, laid it down in the driveway story) - no salvage title bikes, and preferably try to look at bikes sold form original owners.
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
So I'm currently looking to get an adventure bike and the ones I have my mind set on are the KLR650, F650GS, and the DR650, all the DR 650's around me in Wyoming including neighboring states like Co. Ut. and Idaho have no DR650's on the used market, at least not that I can find. My question for you great people on here is how many miles is too much for a 2007 BMW F650GS Dakar, and a Gen 1 KLR650 year 2000? I absolutely love the look of the Gen 1, I'm not crazy about how the F650GS's look but I can always put my spin on it!
I always stay below 20k on my thumper purchases. It's a single cylinder so the life span isn't as long as on other bikes. And these are often used in harsh conditions. So that's my heuristic but it all depends on the owner and maintenance.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours I ended up going with a different bike and while watching your last video at the end you said you just bought a BMW X challenge and I just about spit my drink all over my laptop, for that is the bike I ended up getting lol!!!! 2007 BMW G650 X Challenge with 6,013 miles, and a Race Tech G3 Rear shock. Only issue is the ABS sensor is bad so the ABS light stays on and I am unable to turn the ABS off.
@@lancemartin7584 awesome choice. They hold their value. I have yet to review my x. What an awesome bike. It compares directly to my newest purchase this week if the KTM 690 Enduro r. Enjoy your new ride.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours I'm interested to see what you end up doing with your Xchallenge. I need to find a way to lower the bike a bit. I was thinking of getting a second set of wheels for it, 19/17 to make it a bit more manageable for me. I can't find a lower concepts seat anywhere. Any suggestions?
Hello I can't compare but I'm 29 years old and I'm planning to mainly drive downtown and do occasional round trip rides around 200km. 2018 lambretta v200 scooter 310mile 2100$ vs 2006 bmw f650gs dakar black 15000 mile 2400$ I'm thinking about. What would be a good choice? And I'm a beginner I can't do maintenance on my own and I don't have a garage. ps. My height is 172cm and im in south korea
what are the name of the panniers? do they hook up to the tusk rack?, I bought 20 days ago this KLR 2014 with 600 miles, totally stock so I am trying to dress her up and protect her, I like the look of those panniers better thank the tusk, also like that the top is attached t with the hinges, Like your videos, I have been watching several of them.
Glad to hear you've found my videos useful. I actually recorded a video of the install of these cases to the klr. Please stay tuned. They are fantastic. If you like these exact ones, they are moose racing expedition cases, size large, 47liter (not 57 like the revzilla site says). www.revzilla.com/dirt-bike/moose-racing-expedition-side-case?sku_id=951048
Ps: I have a brand new set, black, Large, same as in the video. I have not listed them on our website shopping page yet but if you would like to own them, I'm happy to sell them to you. The cheapest price I see online is this revzilla sale. Revzilla has them listed at $370 on sale, but I'm happy to ship them to you, my valued subscriber :) for $300 a piece instead. If you find it cheaper by chance, let me know and I'll price match. Keep in mind, they do require about an hour or two worth of install labor. (the labor itself is mostly around the carriers, and not the panniers actually). The panniers just take 6 holes and bolt on to the carriers. I use the Tusk carriers and they come with all the hardware. But they look awesome on the KLR, and are supper ample and organized. I will be releasing the full install video in the coming weeks. Simple stuff, basic mechanical skills required and fairly easy to do. If you are in SoCal, I could help you with it as well.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours sorry didn't see the entire message, they sure are nice but I little more than I want to spend at the moment, thanks for the offer though.
@@csiautodetail No problem. I suggest the Tusk system then - a bit more rugged even although less spacious. Removable with a quick release too. Good luck!
Hi there. Just recently came across your channel. Congrats 👏👏 good content, fluid speech, very enjoyable to watch. I'm planning on buying my first bike and the Bmw F650gs is on my short list (not too tall, not too heavy and versatile). I found a 2002 apparently in good shape (new chain, tires, brakes,original top and side cases) but with 85000km 😬😬 the owner asks 1500€. In your opinion would it be a good deal or should I search for one with lower mileage knowing that the prices are almost double for one with 40/50000km? I appreciate your input. ✌️
Hi CJ, and welcome to my channel. I appreciate your participation in this community with your question and am glad you found the video valuable. If you liked this one, I strongly urge you to look at my BMW Sertao review - you'll find more relevant info about this GS line. As for that specific bike, I'd say it has a bit too many KM for my taste. It is a single cylinder 650 mind you so the life of these engines is not typically as long as other multi cylinder engines, and besides that it is 20years old now. Save up another grand and look for something with fewer miles - that would be my suggestion. Other factors do come into play such as how many owners the bike had, service records, age and experience of owner, etc. But I simply don't buy singles with more than 15k miles. At that point you are referencing they usually require top end work, clearance checks, gasket replacements, fell line and cable replacements, etc etc etc. I don't know where you are or how rich the market there is, but her ein Southern California 3k dollars buys a lot of bike now a days. Good luck in your search.I plan to put a video together about how to search for and evaluate/buy a used motorcycle so please consider subscribing cause I think that will be helpful for you. I also hope to hear from you when the next 3 rival 65 reviews drop (Honda XR650L, KTM SXC625, and BMW Xchallenge) and if you haven't seen my other 650 reviews already live, please do for some competition. Cheers - Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours hi Nik thanks for the reply. I'm in Europe, in Switzerland to be precise. Here the prices aren't as sweet as in the US 😁 and the GS650 apparently really holds its value. Under 15k miles prices start at 4000 + dollars or even more for the Dakar/Sertão versions 😬 the twin cylinder version starts at roughly the same price. What interested me in these bikes is the fact that they are not too tall and have a low center of gravity which I suppose would be ideal being an inexperienced rider. But as a beginner I was looking for something not too expensive. I've ridden 500cc naked bikes but I don't like the riding position and lack of comfort. That's why I turned myself towards the trail bikes. I'll have to try to test ride a couple, maybe it will help make up my mind. Keep up the good work, really enjoy your channel, it's among my favourites ✌️
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Hi Nik thanks for your message. I got the notification of the new video so I will for sure check it out. Keep up the good work and all the best for 2022. Cheers ✌️
The BMW’s engine with the KLR’s suspension, front wheel and rack would go a long way towards a decent bike. That’s a clue to how I’m designing my own 1998 CCM Dakar inspired dual sport/adventure bike that addresses many of the deficiencies you’ve highlighted here, and more. Add a lighter frame (with integral oil tank), plus an extra 5-10bhp via cam and inlet work, and lose the EFI in favour of a traditional carburettor and high mounted DNA air filter, plus the gearing you favour, and we’ve essentially got what the BMW should be, in my humble opinion. Thank you for sharing your findings here. They’ve confirmed my own, and helped convince me my plans are on the right tract. Ride safe.
That sounds super exciting - please keep me posted with the process - I'd love to see the end result. Also, please consider subscribing to be notified when the next reviews are published soon - the next one in particular will interest you since it reviews the G650GS Sertao - the more dirt oriented version of this BMW that is a better comparison to the KLR. After that the reviews of the BMW G650XChallenge are in the works which is another amazing ADV bike (best in class perhaps), as well as Suzuki DRZ400 - Cheers - Nik
Pegasus Motorcycle Tours & Consulting Cheers. Thank you for your words and updates. Will look out for your next vids. I’m already subscribed and hope YT keeps me posted. I’m presently at the parts weighing stage. Many of my choices are based upon weight saving. But because I’m also building on a limited budget, I’m looking at as many parts I can scavenge from the cheap bucket. This has lead me to check out standard silencers from various bikes (often discarded in great condition due to weight, performance suppression and ugliness), with the intention of cutting them up to remove their excess weight and performance strangling features. The process has turned up some interesting surprises. The Yamaha system with a valve is as heavy as a house!! And after an hour of carefully chopping all the welds of the early single stainless F650GS silencer with a 1mm cutting wheel, the damned thing still won’t come apart! But the OEM Suzuki GSXR1000 can condemned by owners as UGLY, is already only 3kgs and barely restricted. I might get around to blogging this process at some point.
@@G58 If you are so keen on shaving pounds but like the 650 GS line - have you looked into the G650X line - I presently own the XChallenge - Same 650 single, just 12 inches of suspension travlel at 350lb - amazing bike and one heck of a choice for the perfect ADV machine. They also make the Xcountry from that line - check them out and stay tuned since I will be releasing that review shortly.
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. I hope you also had the chance to watch my G650GS Sertao Review - one of my favorite motorcycles for sure. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Pegasus Motorcycle Tours & Consulting I did, but forgot to thank you. They’re quite rare here in the UK, but I am now looking. So, thanks for your great suggestions.
I plan to buy f650 2012 as daily commuter..i live in SE Asia where the road is pretty much crap in some place. How is the suspension comfort for bumpy road? I currently own Honda CRF250. Comfortable bike but 250cc is too underpowered when I got into the highway. Considering upgrade to f650gs 2012. They have excellent price compared to 1200 and 1250
Yes, I agree that abroad in such places and most of Latin America this bike is the ideal choice. The 1200s are too big, heavy and expensive and flashy (unsafe). I would never consider riding such a flashy bike down through places like Brazil or Mexico at the moment due to security issues. Thank you for watching and for commenting - please be sure to watch my BMW Sertao review, as well as the upcoming G650XChallenge. Cheers - Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
superb review. You speak very clearly and to the point, a pleasure to learn listening to you. I'm on an edge between v strom 650 and f650gs. Somewhat leaning towards the gs, less weight and simplicity of a single is attractive, though v stroms are bulletproof in many ways... How is the f650gs to work on yourself? Parts not too expensive? thanks
Thank you for that, and thanks for being here. I've never owned the 650 Vstrom but have owned (the hell out of) two 1000s. It is an excellent motorcycle and actually, my first review wo this channel was a very detailed one of the Vstrom 1000. If you haven't seen it I would recommend it highly since it is my second most popular review.I promises you will learn a lot of useful info about the bike even if you are determined to ge the smaller brother, since a lot of the recommendations and info translates. As for which I would choose between the Suzuki and BMW - the Suzuki is definitely cheaper to upkeep, and aftermarket parts are easier to locate since they are more numerous, so if you are hoping to add a bunch of aftermarket parts on it, probably go with the Suzuki. But the GS is also proven, also bulletproof, and simple, so working on it is not a real challenge - and you need not bring it to the dealer really if you have medium level shop skills. In any case I always opt out for the simple bike and the GS is definitely more dirt capable. Also, the ABS and heated grips are. nice feature to have. And you watch the Suzuki review you will realize that I am always for getting the 1000 instead of the 650 just because its so much more bike. PS: I also reviewed the G650GS Sertao, the more dirt oriented version of the650 - that has been one of my favorite bikes so please be sure to check it out. There are so many great contenders I the single 650 ADV category, and I also review the DR650 by Suzuki and the KLR by Kawasaki. Out of all of these, the Sertao (formally the Dakar) is my favorite. I hope this helps. Cheers - Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours even your response is thorough and quick and detailed. Yes, I have watched the dl1000 video a while ago, though wasn't sure how much of it could be applied to 650 version. I always liked dl650 very much, but the weight is a bit too much. I wish there was a slim and light 450cc version of v strom :) Perhaps sv650 needs adventurising. Thanks for your reply!
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. I hope you also had the chance to watch my G650GS Sertao Review - one of my favorite motorcycles for sure. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Great to hear you enjoyed the review. If you are considering either of these bikes, I also have reviewed the BMW G650GS Sertao, and the KLR alone - I would suggest those if you liked my style and narrative since the KLR was my world tour bike and that review has great footage. PS a new review was released this past Saturday with footage form Baja Mexico - of the Honda NC750 X so if you like gorgeous scenery, please check it out and let me know what you think. Cheers and thanks for being here. Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
I'm looking at these 2 bikes. 06 650GS vs similar KLR650. I know these aren't meant for highway riding. but how which is better on highway for those times I need to get on highway? Thanks!
Actually, I have to correct you. These bikes are much more at home riding 70mph, than on difficult dirt riding 15mph. These are both meant for long distance touring, mostly highway with some dirt road capability. But they are predominantly street oriented, I'd say about 70/30%. Both have fairings that guide air away and keep the bike stable at speed, and both have windscreens for the same reason. I would recommend a cramp buster for the throttle to make the long stretches easier.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours perfect. That's exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks! Out of the two, which would you prefer riding on asphalt? I don't see myself doing any technical dirt riding except rather flat unpaved roads. It would be a longer road journey then the 5 miles I might get riding in dirt/unpaved areas
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for review. I have one question, which pannier racks are you using on f650gs? I have some Tusk soft bags with mount plates, but don't see a rack that fits the bike. Thank you!
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Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for your support. I started 2 years ago and the channel has been growing rapidly since then. I also released a video in the first week of this year showing all the reviews that are coming up. If you liked this review, may I suggest that you also see my BMW sertao and KLR specific reviews as well. Thanks for your support and for spreading the word. Cheers, Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for watching. I've reviewed every competitor to these two so be sure to check out the playlist. This list includes the awesome Serrano/Dakar, and please consider subscribing, and you'll get notified when my favorite bmw thumper adv bike review goes l live of the rare G650xchallenge. Happy hunting.
Great Bike!!! Great Review!!, Awesome Channel!!. I own a BMW F650gs 2000, same colour. I Love the bike and enjoy every ride. At the present, got the radiator hit by a little road stone and had to remove to fix it. Haven't found any one here in New Zealand to do it so I doing it myself as everything. Just wondering to know why the hell dual sport adventure bikes and dirt bikes come without a radiator guard, is my complaint to every motorcycle brand on this genres. Keep the shine side up Nik. 👍
Thanks much! That is sad to hear honestly - and can imagine how frustrating it must be. If it's a small leak I noticed anew product in a tube in my local auto parts store by the register which is supposed to plug that. There are also epoxies that you combine that harden to plug smaller holes. Mythbusters - the popular American TV show did an episode on the myth of putting eggs into the radiator - I won't spoil the concussion for you but wish you good luck with the repair. Thanks for the support - please consider tuning in on Saturday for a premier of the review of the DRZ400 at noon.
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Your reviews are so good sir , i have a doubt , i have the opportunity of buying a 650 sertao 2013 (14k km) and a 650 2008 lime yours (20k km) , wich one would you advice me to buy ?
Definitely the Sertao - it's more capable, more advanced, easier to sell, rarer, more valuable, less miles, newer, etc. Easy choice - it's a keeper too. Thanks for being here.
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. I hope you also had the chance to watch my G650GS Sertao Review - one of my favorite motorcycles for sure. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Luckily the market is flooded with them - not as common as the KLR but still easy to acquire. Keep looking and you will have another in no time. Thanks for the comment.
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
From what I gather the GS is better suited for ticking off highway miles than the KLR, along with it's astounding MPG. However the KLR redeems itself with rugged simplicity and immensely cheaper parts when repairs are required. I'd take the KLR anytime off road, the GS seems like too nice of a bike to abuse. Just my 2 cents because I'm currently in the market for a dual sport and these two are in the running-it's simply a matter of which one I can get a better deal on. I plan on mainly blacktops and gravel roads with some city commuting, so perhaps a GS will suit me better.
That would be a correct assessment. The GS comes with more standard features such as switchable aBS and heated grips, but it's more expensive to equip and own. The KLR has been around for a long time and will never let you down, although both motors are iconic. The GS is more powerful though and one can easily fell it. It is also lower and easier to handle cause of the weight distribution. Since you are looking, go through my motorcycle review playlist cause I have numerous 650 and smaller thumper ADV bike reviews, including the amazing G650GS Sertao - one of my favorite motorcycles. If you enjoyed this I invite you to definitely take a look at my KLR review - It claims to be the most complete review on TH-cam and portray footage I shot from my 40k miles tour across North America and Europe. Amazing scenery there. th-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/w-d-xo.html Kawasaki liked it so much they invited me to the press release of the new KLR later in the year so please consider subscribing to get notified when that comes out. Also, this Saturday at noon I will premier a new review of the Honda NC700X - another great bike that should been your hit list, and at the end I show which other 650 Thumper reviews are upcoming. Be well in the meantime and I hope to hear form you I the future. Happy hunting. Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Same back to you and thank you. I ended up finding a 2018 KLR with only 5k on the clock which the PO had fitted with heated grips and Tusk engine guard. I haven't really gone off road yet-but it's great riding through and over construction sites and gravel roads knowing the KLR was made to go wherever you like in most cases. The most surprising thing for me is how comfortable it is, especially with the VStream aftermarket tall windshield I just added. It's definitely a simple, rugged no frills bike. I'm thinking perhaps next year or so I'll trade in while the bike still has resale value to get the new version-or perhaps a GS. For now, I'm happy!
Thanks for the comment - I've been looking for one but two carbs turn me off. Not a huge fan of the looks either and Aprilias infamous electrical problems, but I would buy one if they were more common on the market. Right now I am building up my Honda XR650L, my KTM SXC625 and my BMW G650XChallenge - I am glad you found the video useful - please consider supporting my channel by subscribing so that you can get notified when the other 3 650 reviews come out. Also - I am curious - what have been the major issues with the Pegaso?
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for being here - be sure to watch my BMW Sertao review if you are considering the BMW - it's more dirt oriented and more capable than this. Also, I hope you find this KLR specific review more helpful. th-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/w-d-xo.html Glad to have you here - thanks for participating in the conversation. I also released a video in the first week of this year showing what exciting reviews are coming in 2021, including a review of the sister bike BMW G650XChallenge - much, much more capable than this GS - th-cam.com/video/ydQ1LMAFiVI/w-d-xo.html I hope to hear from you in the future. Cheers - N
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
also please get chain lube auto kits / scotoiler. changes the life of chains and sprocket x 5 longer and saves money by ton on stupid lube sparays and cleaning. continuous lubing increases mech effiency
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Thanks for answering. I'm 171, so I was worried if it's possible for me to ride such bikes. I'm considering to buy f650gs as a first bike.
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Hi there. Glad you found it useful. I am 5.8, 170 lb. I think you would find the GS bit to cramped for your needs. The KLR sits 5 inches higher and I am tippy toes on it. The Sertao or Dakar version is a bit taller than the regular GS, but the controls still feel more cramped than on a KLR. Good luck!
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Glad you found it helpful and glad to have you here. Please consider subscribing to be notified when the next reviews are published soon - the next one in particular will interest you since it reviews the G650GS Sertao - the more dirt oriented version of this BMW that is a better comparison to the KLR. After that the reviews of the BMW G650XChallenge are in the works, as well as Suzuki DRZ400 - Cheers - Nik
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
Thanks, I am looking at 2006/07 models, as that is what is in my area. How many kms was it when you did the review (I am trying to get a gauge on what point I should worry about kms, most here have about 50-80,000)? Thanks for the reveiw.
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/ox5xeIEEjbE/w-d-xo.html
I had a 650 GS for about 3 weeks, until i got hit on it and ended up selling what was left after the accident. I did not spend much to buy it and i really was not too sad to see the last of it because it was way too small for me. They are really tiny compared to the KLR and DR.
They are definitely lower, and then that's why they feel smaller. The seat height makes a big difference. If you prefer a toddler bike, check out my review of the honda xr650l. BMW also released the X challenge from the 650 line, which is 350 pounds for the same engine. And a lot more travel. I have also reviewed the 650gs sertao which is taller. Thanks for watching.
No toddler bikes for me, thx. I like tall 650 thumpers and I have owned alot of them at one time or another... the aforementioned GS, a KLR, XR and DR and I rode a 1991 600 XT extensively in northern Thailand over the course of 3 years, back in my younger days. @@pegasusmotorcycletours
I have owned a 650GS for the last four years and there is nothing in this video that I can argue with. It is easy to ride, forgiving, and infinitely practical so much so that it has become my main mode of transport over the car. Everything from camping tours, city traffic, shopping, even carrying sacks of coal for the fire in the winter months.
Being short, it is the only enduro i can ride comfortably and i have been able to pick this up on my own, even when fully loaded with my camping gear.
Easy to work on too, I do all my own maintenance. The exception is valve clearances.
And yes, not the most attractive of bikes, the silver paint on the engine has a habit of peeling off, other things to look for is an appetite for head bearings, (roughly every 15000 miles) and water pump wear, though mine is still ok at 48000 miles. Go for the 2004 onwards twin spark bikes.
Thanks for the comment and for participating in the conversation. Riders looking at this bike will appreciate your insight. Im glad you found the review accurate. I also welcome you to watch my review of the Sertao - one of the best bikes Ive owned with all the necessary uogrades for more serious adv touring. More 650 thumper adv bike reviews are in the making so I hope you consider subscribing and that I hear from you the near future. Cheers. Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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Thank you for another great video. As a long time biker with almost 50 bikes owned in last 40 years of riding, i really appreciate how much research and ownership experience you build up before giving a review. Much better than these guys that go to a bikeshop(armed with latest go pro) and climb on a bike for 1st time and ride around the city streets blabbering rubbish with alot of swearing at cars and traffic. Keep up the excellent work!!
Precisely- I couldn't agree with you more. I can't handle another "review" with a kid talking into his helmet riding boring streets never before having ridden that actually bike being reviewed. I try to put more effort into the production and am always grateful to receive feedback. Thank you so much. It keeps me motivated since TH-cam does their best to remove all control and monetary incentive for independent, sponsor free channels like mine. Glad to have you. Ps, I've reviewed every competitor in this class including the Sertao in case you are comparing. Best
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@@pegasusmotorcycletours I was deciding between the BMW and the KLR650. Your videos definitely helped me make up my mind. I look forward to a fuel injected KLR650. Thanks for great videos
I was considering buying an F650GS and stumbled upon this video while doing my research. You have covered every question i had. Great video. I will go back to the seller and make an offer. Thanks
Great to hear it was helpful for you.
I've watched like 20 comparison videos and yours were above and beyond the best
Excellent. I also have s comparison of the KLR vs Dr, that's actually the highest watched video in this channel. I'm releasing a review of the hills XR 650 and the Royal Enfield Himalayan in a few weeks as well so I hope you consider subscribing.
Very pleasantly done thank you! I am a returner to motorcycling and have discovered off roading in the mountain regions of Spain where I now live. I had a guided tour in Cantabria a couple of days ago, renting a small 250 mutt motorcycle and remembered how great it felt to be on two wheels again going up mountain passes and steep slopes covered in scree. I am looking for a smallish bike, 400cc upwards, a Himalayan, or the F650, and found your channel. Thank you for the way you present, you come across as a quiet, respectful, thinking, compassionate man, and that resonates with me. You have another subscriber!
Take care. Mark
Greetings Mark. Welcome back to the channel, and to motorcycling. If you ever find yourself in Southern California, I'd be happy to offer you a private tour. We are fortunate here. Ps, I've also reviewed the Himalayan albeit not very favorably. I've reviewed every 650 cc adv thumper on this channel so you have lots of comparisons. Good luck with your search. Cheers. Nik
Love my f650gs. I’m never getting rid of it I’m keeping it forever.
Thanks for watching and for the complement - glad you found the video helpful. Please stay tuned for a new review of the Sertao, as well as my newest bike, the rare BMW G650XChallenge.
I love my 650gs.
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. PS: A new review is premiering today, in an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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I ride f650gs in South Africa carrying camping luggage, she behaves extraordinary well. Everything you mentioned in your video I agree with. 👍👍😊
Glad to hear from another owner who found the review accurate. And all the way from down south too? Thanks for taking the time. Nik
Great Video mate. Love Brazil, I completed the BR-319 in a KLR with my wife (no others bikes/cars) it was quite the adventure!!
That must have been such an awesome trip and adventure. I returned to Brazil with my wife (we met there year prior) and the experience was very tense honestly. I don't think I'd be able to relax with her on the back. The situation there overall is getting really tense, especially in places around the Amazon due to illegal logging and mining - the road you mentions I believe is referred as the Ghost Road - I was more west towards the Border with Peru. Ride safe and thanks for participating in the conversation. Cheers - Nik
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. PS: A new review is premiering today, in an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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You really covered the details on this bike, and I appreciate that. I'm on the east coast US but I have ridden in NM and CO on really gnarly trails and fire roads. Was looking at F650GS as a potential overlander/camping bike. Now I have to watch the Dakar/Sertao review though lol
Thank you again for being here and for participating in the conversation. I would urge you to check my Sertao review out before pulling a trigger because at the end of that review I reveal another 650BMW that is much more dirt oriented, rare, and super light (in comparison) That is the bike I ride today due to all of the factors above. The BMWG650XChallenge. Thank you again for being here and for participating in the conversation. Three more 650thumper reviews are in the making (Honda XR650L, KTM SXC635 and the XChallenge) so I look forward to hearing from you then. Be well in the meantime- Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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@@pegasusmotorcycletours Thanks, I'll check out that video right now!!
I’ve got a 01 Dakar. It’s the BEST! Z👍🏻👍🏻
Your bike reviews are truly some of the best I have watched on TH-cam, well done!
Thank you so much - that's a huge compliment. I appreciate it. That keeps me motivated. Please stay tuned for a new reviews of the DRZ400, the BMW Sertao, and of the rare BMW G650XChallenge.
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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Just bought a well taken care of 2001 dakar. I will be watching more of your videos!
Congrats. Tha ks for the support and enjoy the Dakar. I'll be releasing the review of my GS650XChallenge shortly. Cheers. Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours have any recommendations on helmets?
What a great vid, 20 mins flew by. I've got G650GS, excellent bike. Loved hearing your personal experience of the GS along with the anecdotal stuff, Cheers!
Thanks again for the support. Yes, definitely and awesome line of the 650. Shame they got rid of it. I also reviewed the very cool Sertao and currently own the xChallenge, which is rare. All great capable bike.
Thanks for the great video. Sharp and honest analysis. Just bought a 2005 F650 GS model with low miles.
Very happy with it on and off road. Watching your video was key in the decision process.
Thought about the Sertao, but stayed with the F650 GS based on seat height.
Keep it up.
Great to hear that this review was helpful and CONGRATS - you'll love the bike. I made a tutorial of how to improve the stock kickstand easily and cheaply albeit on the Sertao/Dakar It is basically the same motorcycle, to be very honest, aside form the aesthetics mostly noticeable in the front end. The rear subframe is entirely the same, dimension wise, so much so that luggage racks and carriers are for the most part interchangeable. I review the G650GS as well so please take a look at that to get more insights into their differences and similarities. I have reviewed most of the 650 ADV thumpers on this channel, so please take a look through my videos. I also still have in my garage waiting to get reviewed the Honda XR650L and KTM SXC 625, as well as the BMW XChallenge. Also, some great news, Kawasaki invited me to their press release and extended review of the new KLR being release later this year so stick around for that and please consider subscribing to be informed when these come out. In the meantime, thanks again for being here and Congrats once more! Cheers - Nik
How tall are you? I’m 5’10 would the gs be a good height ?
@@aboveworld8209 im 5.8 amd have no issues on the gs. You'll be 100 percent flat footed on this bike.
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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I just picked up a super clean 2014 g650gs with 18000 miles and summer will be here soon 👌. Great video.
Congratulations. It will ended. Enjoy your new bike and key me know if you need any time suggestions or big trip planning help. Cheers. Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours wii do & thank you.
Loved your video and honest commentary - practical and great recording quality.
Great to hear you found it valuable. If you like the scenery, I lead tours here in Southern California, and more details are on my website. Cheers. Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Hi Nik - So please do let me know, in the previous GS video you had a gripe of no fuel indicator. I'm thinking of getting a Sertao here in Australia, having been former owner of Vstrom (not enough suspension in rougher terain) and Africa Twin (way too big and heavy and I recently crashed it and broke my leg!). As I heal up, I am thinking of the GS650 Sertao, but often I end up doing 80% road to do 20% dirt. What's your take on Sertao's performance/noise sitting on 100/110 on road? One TH-cam review suggested neutral is an issue on the gearing - is it an issue you've encountered? Many thanks. My only concern is coming from twin, single may just been too underpowered on 100km/h run down highways at length....
I'm driving still a 2003 F650GS in germany and I'm still impressed . The Rotax engine ist so reliable and after all the years everything ist finde.👍
Thanks for writing all the way from Germany. I am glad to hear it - My Sertao has only 2000 miles on the clock, so I look forward to riding it till the wheels fall off. Greetings from San Diego - I hope you all are staying safe. Cheers - Nik
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Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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My 2001 650 Dakar has got it going on! 👍🏻👍🏻
I have the same motorcycle and year 2003 went to Alaska and back from Minnesota when it was with 5000 miles , just change oil and storage in winter .
I'm very impressed with your reviews. I've never watched a more informative review. Awesome and interesting! Thank you!
Thanks for taking the time and glad to hear it. Nik
my 1st motorcycle was a YBR 125 cc, man i have good memories with that bike but i later upgraded to the GS650, the difference is crazy, i haven't used it enough to give a proper review but i am hoping to create new memories with it.
Enjoy it, it's a great bike with lots of possibilities. I look forward to hearing from you in future reviews. I also reviewed the related Serrtao and will be releasing a review of my BMW Xchallenge - basically a more capable version of the GS. Stay tuned.for that review coming in a few weeks - it's a rare bike and one of the best in the GS line. Cheers. Nik
Great video. I ride an Aprilia Pegaso and love it, dual carbs and all! The650cc Rotax engine has great power and torque. Can’t imagine why anyone would need anything more.
Thank you for watching and for adding your opinion about that increasingly rare motorcycle. I'm always curious about unique bikes like that and imagine the two carbs benefits torque and power delivery. I'm just not a fan of cleaning. But I would love to experience the EFI version the newer Picasso generation that I don't think was sold in the US. But the road texture is an awesome motorcycle. The next review will be of my Aprilia futura which has that same road text twin engine that was used in the RSV mile. And if you like these reviews please be sure to check out my other 650 adventure touring thumper motorcycle reviews, some of them are fairly hard to find bikes like the BMW x challenge and the ktm sxc 625. Thanks for being here
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Great video, fully agree with the description of the F650 GS.
2001 make owner here, visited with it 39 countries and gathered 172 thousand kilometers on it. My first and only bike, will never sell it.
It's an honor to have you. And I'm very happy to hear a person of your caliber agrees to my review. I have also owned and reviewed the Sertao and the cross challenge
Wow that's a good mileage, did you do anything with the motor? 😁
@@karleriklund428 Nothing in particular; just several fuel filter changes, timely oil + filter changes and one time water pump impeller replacement.
@@karleriklund428 Not a thing.
Great video, thanks. I rode a BMW R80G/S from 82-89 in Africa & loved it. I've ridden road bikes since but next year want a Dakar or Sertao. I wanted to hear another opinion & delighted you like it so much. I'll buy one in 12 months.
Great to hear it. Let me know your thoughts wondering you get one. I reviewed the sertao so take a look at that review. NIK
Love the Okterfest b-roll when you mentioned the BMW headquarters in Munich. Nice video, totally agree with what you said regarding the 650.
Thank you for watching. I like to include that stuff mostly for my own viewing pleasure and reminiscing. Cheers. Nik
Dude, you actually lived in Brazil. So cool! Im in Ceará but love Alagoas too. Nordeste region is a dream for motorcycle adventuring.
I did, for a year. Loved it. Such a big place and tons of opportunities to ride. Thanks for watching and greetings from San Diego.
I think that yellow gs650F is the best looking version nice sleek headlight etc
Thank you for watching. If you like the GS 650 line, take a look at my playlist to see my review of the Serrtao, previously the Dakar version. Still one of the best looking bikes in this class. Cheers. Nik
Great review. Both excellent bikes for their intended purpose. I'm contemplating entering the adventure bike world & being only 5' 7" with only a 29" inseam I'm leaning (no pun intended!) towards the F650GS.
That will be a good choice since it's one of the more capable bikes with a lower seat height - you will enjoy it. Thanks for participating I the conversation - you are In the right place since this channel is dedicated to ADV touring. Cheers - Nik
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I am pretty much the same size, I can flat foot my f650gs, it’s perfect. Get one, don’t hesitate.
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This is one of the best reviews I’ve seen.
Glad you found your time well invested. Cheers. Nik
is it possible to increase the ground clearance of the bmw f 650 gs? Any king of modification that is budget friendly.
It is not unfortunately. There are rising links you can instal for the rear but the front is limited to the fork length. Adjusting only one height will negatively affect the geometry and ride quality.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours so the ground clearance is that of 5.1'' and a sertao has the better dimessions.
Thanks for sharing! Currently looking for my first motorcycle and the F650GS was one of the candidates, you can pick one up for cheap here in Europe. Can't say the same for the KLRs though
Interesting. Thanks for watching. Good luck with the search.
I have a KLR650 Gen.1 which I consider to be the best of the KLR variants. It does everything without missing a beat, it's only downfall really the balance chain tensioner system but once that's replaced with the torsion spring mod. it is no longer an issue.
I like simple, cheap motorcycling because then I can service my machine, and with it being cheap it means more trips because I have no overheads other than basic maintenance.
Both these bikes will do this, but I will stay loyal to my "bullet proof" KLR even though both the Dakar and Sertao are head turners (I have been tempted) and somewhat prettier !!
Thanks for watching and for participating in the conversation. The new KLR still holds its place in the ADV community. I was just given the newest one to review by Kawasaki and that review is coming out this Saturday in case you are curious - it is a much improved bike albeit 50 pounds more than your version. I also reviewed the Sertao on this channel but own the lighter XChallenge - amazing motorcycle. Thanks for the support and happy new year. Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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What's a better engine in f650gs dakar rotax or twin spark And what's the difference
I wanna say all rotex had the twin spark for a more efficient, cleaner burn. I have not heard anything bad about the newer Rotax assembled in China.
Wow, wasn't expecting such a good review/comparison. Nice job
Many thanks and glad you found the review valuable. If you liked this one, be sure to check out my review of the BMW Sertao - much more dirt oriented and handsome motorcycle. I also pit the KLR against the DR650, and the most popular review on this channel is of only the KLR. There are three more 650 thumper sin the garage waiting to be reviewed so I hope you subscribe and stick around to see those.Cheers - and thanks for being here- Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours subscribed. Keep up the excellent quality.
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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What’s your thoughts and opinions on the 2024 CFMoto 650 Aventura?
Don't have personal experience but looks like a street bike - I don't see any meaningful adv features.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours How about a KTM 690 Adventure and Triumph 800 XCx versus the new Fuel Injected KLR?
So how does the Sertao compare to the Dakar? I have a 2000 F650GS Dakar and I love this bike.
Same bike, just updated livery.
Love the video, thanks!! Can you please tell me what year the beauty BMW is? I am looking at a 2010 and wondering if all your comments apply? Thanks
Yes, they should for the most part since the changes were largely aesthetic. This was a 2003. Next model switched from F to G, bit for a year or two BMW continued with the F650GS even though it was an 800cc twin. Silly in my opinion.
very well said as F650 owner as well that has ridden KLRs they really are two different bikes. That said i completely agree the engineering put into the mid 2000s dual spark F650 is pretty much spot on. it has all the things you need and is still simple and efficient.
Yes. I just picked up an f800gt and that thing gets 60plus mpg from a dual cylinder sport touring bike. Very efficient engine.
Thank you, good video. One point I was wondering, what is the top speed on a freeway, you touched on that more or less saying 80 mph - is that correct? It's faster than the KLR that way?
To speed is close to 120 but honestly anything above 100 is sketchy because the 21 front typically with knobbies start to make the front feel too light and loose for comfort. The Beemer is definitely pepper and more responsive, and more stable at speed since it has a smaller front wheel.
Great video thank you! I'm looking at getting my first road bike and am really interested in the F650 GS. Perhaps its slightly biased by the fact my dad and uncles have all had the R1200/1250 GS for as long as I can remember. My only concern is that it might be a bit small as I've read a few comments of people having this issues. At 6'3 would you still recommend?
Thanks for watching. I've reviewed other bikes from the gs line as well as nearly everything other competidor in the 650 line. The tallest of them is on the honda xr650L. Have you considered the 800/850 gs? Cheers. Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours I've ridden the xr650r and really enjoyed it, but I recently moved to the city for university and wanted something solid for commuting purposes as well as adv riding. The 800 gs would be ideal, but its slightly out of my budget and not permitted in Australia on your learners unfortunately. I think I'll go with the f650gs. Thanks again Nik
I might have missed it but what year is the BMW? Thank you.
I believe this was a 2003
I've seen this video, ate least 3 times, it is so rich in information and experiences that there's always something to catch each time. And thanks to it i'm a proud owner of a F650GS (the injection made me choose the BMW, but I would like to drive a KLR someday).
Keep up the good work
Obrigado pela partilha
Thanks for sharing
Merci d'avoir partagé.
Obrigado para teu apoio - and thank you for being here and for the kind words. I am happy to hear this video helped you make a decision you seem happy with (and I hope you watched my review of the BMW Sertao as well since they are related). As for the KLR, the new one just announced will have EFI - so it is much improved and fairly attractive - everyone is excited about it, as am I.
Stay tuned for that review and ride safe - thanks again - Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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Most serious bike shops in America are traditionally closed on mondays. Sunday is race day...and folks need a day to get back home from travelling to race tracks.
That is some excellent information that I will admit I did not know - I do hope the shop folks still get. change to hit the track or the woods o the weekend. I respect that bit of info, but I think in place like Moab an exception must be made since there are so many riders I the backcountry over the weekend. I can't help but be bitter about loosing 4 days of riding and shooting to a simple plastic part. Thank you for being here and for participating I the conversation. I invite you to run through the motorcycle review playlist on this channel to get inspired about other options available to you in the 650 ADV category. I have reviewed/or am editing reviews of nearly every 650 ADV touring motorcycle in the used market including the awesome BMW Sertao which is a world of improvement on this GS. th-cam.com/video/ph5ELUGizxQ/w-d-xo.html
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Kawasaki liked it so much they invited me to the press release of the new KLR later in the year so please consider subscribing to get notified when that comes out. Also, this Saturday at noon I will premier a new review of the Honda NC700X - another great bike for the ADV community, and at the end I show which other 650 Thumper reviews are upcoming. Be well in the meantime and I hope to hear form you in the future. Cheers, Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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I BUYED bmw f650 gs because your movies , yesterday , drive safe end good luck brother greetings from Holland europe
I'm very glad to hear my reviews were helpful to you. Congratulations and may it serve you long and well. Cheers. Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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One more question... given the choice would you recommend/go with the post 2007 F650GS with the parallel Twin 800 or the previous F600GS single piston 650. I am too short for the G650 GS unfortunately... Could you give me your thoughts please?
Thanks for the questions. The 650 thumper sits lower and is lighter. I'm 5.8 and appreciate the lower seat height. It has plenty of power, bit ofcourse the two. Is smoother. So I'd say stick with either the f650gs until 2003, and g650gf thumper later on. I've also owned that rares ga 640 version title XChallenge. That's the best offroader yet. Stay tuned for that review.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Much appreciate the details... the models certainly are a little confusing... then they have the international models with some different etc. Crazy reading through all of it. That Austrian Rotax engine seems to be very highly regarded. Will certainly check out your video about the xchallenge, though finding one in these parts would be impossible. Thank you for your time and expertise!
I've owned both of them and still can't make up my mind which was best, own an 07' dl650 v-strom now, and it's just as bulletproof, great video 👍
Thanks for watching. The first review on this channel was of my DL1000. I love those bikes. Thanks for the support.
You deserved the full 20min of my busy time. What a great review! Im really considering this bike as my next one. I was a bit worried about it's behaviour on difficult off road and on long on-road fast cruise speeds, being a single cylinder but now i know that it's good enough. My actual bike is and Honda Varadero XLV125, a great adv 125cc bike but it's time to move on
Time is invaluable and I thank you for giving it - and am happy to hear you found it well spent, and the review informative and helpful. You wont be disappointed - since you have dirt background, have you considered the Dakar or Sertao? I would urge you to check my Sertao review out before pulling a trigger because that might be more up your alley. At the end of that review I reveal another 650BMW that is much more dirt oriented, rare, and super light (in comparison) That is the bike I ride today due to all of the factors above. The BMWG650XChallenge. Thank you again for being here and for participating in the conversation. Three more 650thumper reviews are in the making (Honda XR650L, KTM SXC635 and the XChallenge) so I look forward to hearing from you then. Be well in the meantime- Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours I saw that video too! Another great review :) I would prefer the sertao version for better off road specs but a friend of mine is selling me a standard f650gs with only 24.000 km and I think it's a nice opportunity. Also, I would share the bike with my father and he hates the dirt. Keep like that! Nice videos, very informative and interesting! Cheers:)
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. Cheers - Nik
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Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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I liked your video. I bought a 2004 two years ago. It's yellow as well. It was a bit neglected, and needed a lot of minor work. But it came with all the luggage, and both standard and low seats. I agree with all the good things you said. Fuel range is amazing. I get 390 k befor the fuel light comes on, and still have apx 4 litres left.
Great to hear it and glad you found the review valuable and accurate. If you like this one be sure to check out my BMW Setao review - definitely a better bike for ADV touring. I have three more bikes in the garage waiting for their reviews in the same 650 thumper class so please stay tuned and consider subscribing to be informed when that comes out. We just released a new video listing all the reviews coming up in 2021 so please take a look. Cheers - Nik
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. I hope you also had the chance to watch my G650GS Sertao Review - one of my favorite motorcycles for sure. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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I'm looking at some F650GS's now. Nice bikes.
I'm 5'9". What do you think the maximum rider height is to be to still be comfortable on a long trip on a F650GS? It's one thing to be standing on the pegs a lot, but quite another to be seated on the highway for hours at a time.
I'm 5.8 and found this bike very comfortable and manageable. I think you will too.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Thanks!!
I have a choice and because of my age above 60 I was wondering what would you buy as your last bike purchase in your life. a 2003 BMW f650gs with 12,000 miles or a 2022 KLR 650 abs with 6,000 miles for 2,000 more? I will do 70% road 30% mountain back road coal mining roads but very few single tracks. I'm 6ft 185lbs and will do 50% road riding with 100LB pasenger. I will be doing 100% maintenance inc tire tube changes. I will average 6,000 miles per year total. thank you so much for your reply.
I would say go with the newer bike. 20 years is a good amount of time on a motorcycle. The killer will meet your needs but the suspension might be a little too soft for two up riding. I've reviewed the new KLR and you can see that in my playlist. Good luck and safe travels and if I can be of any assistance regarding any trips, please don't hesitate to ask. Last year we launched our Eastern Sierra tour which is amazing, but I also do Southern California tours as well as tours of the Southwest starting and ending in Las Vegas. A must for any Adventure touring Rider. Safe travels
It's great to see reviews and comparisons by someone that has real life experience and use of Adventure motorcycling.
I personally feel that motorcycles have gotten ridiculously large on and off the road and therefore in both cases have lost the feeling of the machine being a extension of your body.
I want to go back to something simpler and easier to maintenance.
Great to have you here, thanks for watching and for the support. I totally agree with you, and that's why I only tour with 650 thumpers. All my touring bikes like the XChallenge bmw or the ktm EXC are under 350 lb. I just finished a review of the newest klr so please tune in next weekend to see what that bike is all about. Thanks again. Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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Yes, really good video, I have a f650 of 1995, I am agree with your comments, thanks for your vídeo, bye from Aranjuez (Madrid)
Thank you for watching and greetings from San Diego. I have family in Madrid. Safe travels. If you liked this review please take a look at.my BMW Sretao review, and I will be releasing a review of the Honda XR650L this Saturday which is in the same class. Cheers.
Ok, very good, I Will watch your recomendation, thanks for all, bye
Loved your review! Been riding for years. Try filtering your gas through a chamois in questionable areas. Also, you could put an aviation oat(outside air temperature gauge) through your windscreen for temp.
Thanks for watching and for those awesome tips. Very helpful advice. Much appreciated.
Hi don't you have the bmw dakar, which is the model before the sertao in that countries?
We have both models in the US, but both are fairly uncommon on the road. I had and have reviewed the Sertao, so please take a look at that video - it was my favorite motorcycle in the 650 ADV class, until I found another rare BMW which is.... well, please watch the review :) Thanks for bein here.
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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Thank you for this. I have the F650gs Dakar and also this disease where I am always wanting to upgrade and ride bigger, newer bikes, even though I have no real reason to justify the expense. This will help me control that urge and stick with my F650 for a while longer...maybe. It's the Harley rider in me I think that is the cause of such urges.
Hey - nothing wrong with satisfying an urge like that. I also have the same problem, and an additional one in living in such a rich market as is Southern California where one can find the best deals on even the rarest of motorcycles fairly often (just picked up a Honda NC700X 15 minutes ago actually). I am always on the market searching for the next thing - if you liked this bike, please consider subscribing to get notified when the next review is release next week - it is of your bike, just newer - the Sertao (but watch at your own risk cause it might tickle that itch again) It's such a great bike. And after that is another 650 which is rare and is the bike that made me sell the Sertao which I was sure I'd be keeping. I'll keep that a surprise - you'll have to tune in and watch the Sertao review till the end to see what bike I am talking about (hint -also a BMW) Welcome to the channel and hope to hear form you then! - Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours I would normally agree, but I don't ride enough to financially justify constantly upgrading. I will check your other vids!
@@scottrodcustoms1 I would suggest you keep an eye on the market and be ready to pull the trigger if a Sertao emerges for a good price, since at the moment you would be able to get just as much money for your Dakar (one I just saw last week was listed at $5.5, and the guy won't budge - that's a price of the Sertao.) So no need to loose money if you are flexible. In any case glad to have you here!
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@@pegasusmotorcycletours I guess I'm confused as to why I'd want to sell a Dakar for a Sertao? Isn't it basically the same bike?
I was ready to sell my bmw f650gs 2004 model cause I wanted something with more power and a little big bigger cause I am 1.94 meters BUT I simply cant give it away.. this bike is so light, so easy to drive, so low fuel consumption that im thinking of keeping it and continue my trips with it all around the world...
I too have decided to sell the KLR and keep the GS - and every time I sat on the KLR I felt it was too bulky and not nearly as agile enough in comparison. Thanks for the comment. Cheers-Nik
Hey bro, is there any site to get parts for repairs? I’m struggling to find them for the right price, thanks a lot
you could get the dakar version of the GS, it's a little taller but also a little more expensive. the main difference to the regular gs is the suspension and the front wheel which is a 21 inch on the Dakar.
@@simonemmert9824 yes I know! I was aiming to buy the Dakar version but I couldn't find a single one that is being sold in a good condition so I bought the basic version...
@@simonemmert9824 No doubt, you are preempting the next video which reviews my F650GS Sertao. - the evolved Dakar. I think it's one of the best ADV bikes on the market so please stay tuned for that review, and thanks for being a part of this awesome community. Cheers - Nik
The f650gs single is probably one of the best designs that BMW ever made. It is a pity they stopped producing it in this stupid race for more horsepower.
A lot of people still don't understand that a motorcycle needs 2 sturdy wheels and a simple reliable engine to serve all purposes.
Now, why put electronics on bike to tame down its too powerful engine instead of developing a great and more reliable engine built with modern materials, I for one cannot understand....
I've owned my 650gs for over 14 years now without a single issue and to be honest nothing on the market convinced me to change. I think I'll keep riding it until no spare parts are available and then turn it into a collectible as it deserves.
Hurray for this video, it is great to see these bikes are still properly appreciated after all these years.
And by thw way, BMW...please begin building proper bikes again, you're losing all your serious GS customers...
Thanks for that comment and for participating in the conversation. I agree with you on all points. We need lighter, smaller, more reliable, simple motorcycle for serious ADV touring. The BMW I continue to own was all of those - GS650X-Challenge - have you heard of it? This will be. coming review so please stay tuned and consider subscribing. Thanks for being here! Nik
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. I hope you also had the chance to watch my G650GS Sertao Review - one of my favorite motorcycles for sure. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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Thank you for the review, what are the make of the GS pannier racks?
Hepco & Becker. Thanks for watching. The review of the new klr650 is being released this Saturday so I hope to see you there.
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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Servicing the f650gs is a abit of a pain especially when the previous owner stripped half of the torx bolts but otherwise a fair review. I have both of these bikes (tengai) and a tt350. The bmw is complex the klr easy and tt ridiculously simple to work on.
True True - I really hate the hex bolts. Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. PS: A new review is premiering today, in an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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Thinking more and more lately about adventure / rtw riding and considering between DR650, F650GS, KLR650, V-Strom 650. Something around 600cc, simple and reliable but being only 170cm tall I guess it narrows it down.
Thank you for amazing comparative review.
Glad to have you and glad you enjoyed the review and found it useful. I too am 172cm so seat height is important to me - the GS is by far the most accessible of the bunch. Please take a look at the DR vs KLR review I posted a few months back for some more information about this class. I am finishing up a review of the BMW Sertao. -probably the best of the bunch, so please consider subscribing to be notified when that comes out. Great to have you here!
Cheers - Nik
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. I hope you also had the chance to watch my G650GS Sertao Review - one of my favorite motorcycles for sure. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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@@pegasusmotorcycletours the new KLR 650 is a great bike, and you're right about the military paint scheme being too much outside of the US. I've been to Mexico twice and North Africa once. Some places (maybe even most places) outside CONUS being military causes unwanted attention
Completely agree with your opinions . I have a BMW 650 twin , and a Suzuki dr200 . I would much prefer my dr200 for off road stuff or riding the americas . My 650 is good for ‘ concession road ‘ type travelling ., I agree with your carb comment though .
Thanks for watching. Glad you found the review accurate. Thanks for participating in the conversation as well. Cheers. Nik
Great video, have one 2004 the same colour. Would you please let me know where I can get all equipment needed for repair tire, change oil....all you would recommend for longer trip. thank you. Bob Popelka
Greetings bob. Thanks for watching. If you are interested in how it compares to the new klr, I just released a review two weekends ago of the 2022 KLR 650. As for your other question, I get all my gear tools and equipment at a local motorcycle supply shop. By the way you spell color, am I correct to assume you live in uk?
Also, to your other question regarding the gear I take on longer trips, I will make a longer more inclusive video about that topic soon, but in the meantime in my newest KLR 2022 review, I review the luggage and everything that I take in it. So you'll get some great ideas of all the bare essential tools and equipment you need even for a weekend trip. For any other advice or assistance or consulting service, please visit my website to see all that I offer in that regard. Thanks again for reaching out.
I agree completely that the motor w/the FI makes these bikes, the rear factory rack is silly, and also that it's absurd to not have a fuel gauge. I have an '05 Dakar that I have swapped the suspension (KTM White Power front, HyperPro rear), 18" rear rim, and a proper headlight, plus an aftermarket saddle and some bar risers, really make the bike so much more fun and safe to ride on backcountry roads. I would love an updated model with the Rotax, a lightweight frame, real suspension, a similar small but useful fairing and a solid gauge package. Thanks for the great video.
Thanks for being here and for participating in the conversation. That sounds like a killer bike you got there. I just picked up a competitor KTM 625 - amazing WP suspension with over 11 inches of travel (12.6 in the rear). Very much looking forward to what it can do. Be sure to watch my next review of the Sertao - the modern Dakar. That's one of the newer, more popular reviews. Also, please consider subscribing to get notified when I release the upcoming reviews of three more competitors in the 650 category - BMW XChallenge, KTM SXC625 and Honda XR650L. We also have exciting announcement to make closer to the new year. Cheers - Nik
You get used to the lack of fuel gauge on the KLR. You get to know the fuel level by distance traveled. I agree it is ridiculous to not have one stock, but it its what it is.
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. I hope you also had the chance to watch my G650GS Sertao Review - one of my favorite motorcycles for sure. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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Thanks for the great video. I am new to riding and have wanted the BMW GS for a number of years. Curious, what year is the 650 that you are reviewing here? I find the oil change on the earlier models to be a bit wanky. I am looking for a 2009 and up. Peace and safe travels.
Welcome to the channel and thanks for being here. You are in the right place because my channel is primarily devoted to ADV touring. This was a 2003. But I also review the more capable F650GS Sertao so I highly suggest you look at that review. More 650 thumper adv bike reviews are in the making (3 more being revealed in the next video coming out this or next sat. so I hope you consider subscribing to get notified. (I talk about my current garage which includes 9 motorcycles, one of which is the most capable 650 Bmw in the gs adv bike lineage that is very lught and rare. Hope to see you there. Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. Cheers - Nik
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Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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Hello if your planning on coming to Aus, stop in for a coffee / meal.
I live on the Central Coast about 100km north of Sydney .
I just noticed that this video was posted about a year ago.
Anyway safe travelling
I appreciate that invite. Very generous of you. The same goes if you are in San Diego. I'll definitely take you up on your hospitality if the opportunity arrives. Be well in the meantime and thanks for the support.
Look forward to catching up, I'm sure you would have endless stories to tell
And thank uou for the offer too.
Is gs f650 Twin ? Vs klr 650 single?
The 650 is typically a single cylinder. I say typically, because there was a few years where BMW for whatever reason named its 800 a 650 even though it was a twin cylinder 800cc motor. Pretty weird of them to do that.
I've owned 4 bmw autos, spent 2 grand total.. if bought new they would of been around 200 grand.. why I chose a KLR, I'm cheap!.. and I like reliability and parts when needed.. love my klr, & it's actually more comfortable as a ride for me
I agree - reliability is so important and the new KLR actually looks attractive as well. You can't beat reliability. Thank you for that, and thanks for being here - glad to hear you found the review helpful. Please consider subscribing to get notified when other reviews come out in this 650 class, - 3 more are in the making, of the Honda XR650L, KTM625 SXC, and BMW XChallenge. By then I will have a complete review of the 650 thumper ADV lineup on this channel. I hope you get the chance to watch all the other 650 reviews I have made already (BMW G650GS, F650GS, KLR) as well as the DRZ400S - you might be surprised by that bike. Be well in the meantime. Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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Great video. I'm currently planning a solo trip across Australia and weighing up the 650 and 800 gs as well as the transalp. Any thoughts?
Thank you for being here. I am all about the weight savings but Australia has a lot of straight and fast roads, so in this case it's up to you since all of these are not uncommon there and would be easy to service. If you are planning mostly road riding and easy dirt, go with the faster, more powerful bike. If it were the Alps, I'd go lighter, but in the outback a big bike is less of a burden and more usable. Although I love Hondas (three In the garage ATM including one form the 70s and a XR650L. -review coming soon), the BMW packs more tech and is newer so they are not real competitors, if you have the choice. Best of luck and please get in touch after your trip - I'd be very curious to hear what you go with and how it went. Cheers. -Nik
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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What part of SoCal? Recently got a 03 650 and looking to start some adventure riding and improve my skills?
Northern San Diego county - congrats on the purchase - you'll love it. If you'd like some one on one coaching in the field, that exactly what I do, and so cal has a number of great rides/roads of increasing difficulty.
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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I'm looking into getting the GS's cousin, the F650 CS (Scarver). They're super cheap and seem to be perfect for commuting and a bit of weekend fun. They have the same engine as the GS. Is there anything in particular I should check (like a visible/audible fault) when looking to buy?
Yeah, that's Avery interesting bike and you don't see them often on the road. Less capable in dirt but could still do some easy fire roads. How to purchase used is the next video in line - there are. Aton of little tell tale signs to look out for - please stay tuned. My main suggestion for you for now before that video comes out is to avoid any bike that's been crashed (the old, laid it down in the driveway story) - no salvage title bikes, and preferably try to look at bikes sold form original owners.
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Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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So I'm currently looking to get an adventure bike and the ones I have my mind set on are the KLR650, F650GS, and the DR650, all the DR 650's around me in Wyoming including neighboring states like Co. Ut. and Idaho have no DR650's on the used market, at least not that I can find. My question for you great people on here is how many miles is too much for a 2007 BMW F650GS Dakar, and a Gen 1 KLR650 year 2000? I absolutely love the look of the Gen 1, I'm not crazy about how the F650GS's look but I can always put my spin on it!
I always stay below 20k on my thumper purchases. It's a single cylinder so the life span isn't as long as on other bikes. And these are often used in harsh conditions. So that's my heuristic but it all depends on the owner and maintenance.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours I ended up going with a different bike and while watching your last video at the end you said you just bought a BMW X challenge and I just about spit my drink all over my laptop, for that is the bike I ended up getting lol!!!! 2007 BMW G650 X Challenge with 6,013 miles, and a Race Tech G3 Rear shock. Only issue is the ABS sensor is bad so the ABS light stays on and I am unable to turn the ABS off.
@@lancemartin7584 awesome choice. They hold their value. I have yet to review my x. What an awesome bike. It compares directly to my newest purchase this week if the KTM 690 Enduro r. Enjoy your new ride.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours I'm interested to see what you end up doing with your Xchallenge. I need to find a way to lower the bike a bit. I was thinking of getting a second set of wheels for it, 19/17 to make it a bit more manageable for me. I can't find a lower concepts seat anywhere. Any suggestions?
Hello I can't compare but I'm 29 years old and I'm planning to mainly drive downtown and do occasional round trip rides around 200km.
2018 lambretta v200 scooter 310mile 2100$ vs
2006 bmw f650gs dakar black 15000 mile 2400$ I'm thinking about.
What would be a good choice?
And I'm a beginner
I can't do maintenance on my own and I don't have a garage.
ps. My height is 172cm and im in south korea
Dakar, no contest, great price, great bike, much more usable.
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thank you so much
what are the name of the panniers? do they hook up to the tusk rack?, I bought 20 days ago this KLR 2014 with 600 miles, totally stock so I am trying to dress her up and protect her, I like the look of those panniers better thank the tusk, also like that the top is attached t
with the hinges, Like your videos, I have been watching several of them.
Glad to hear you've found my videos useful. I actually recorded a video of the install of these cases to the klr. Please stay tuned. They are fantastic. If you like these exact ones, they are moose racing expedition cases, size large, 47liter (not 57 like the revzilla site says). www.revzilla.com/dirt-bike/moose-racing-expedition-side-case?sku_id=951048
Ps: I have a brand new set, black, Large, same as in the video. I have not listed them on our website shopping page yet but if you would like to own them, I'm happy to sell them to you. The cheapest price I see online is this revzilla sale. Revzilla has them listed at $370 on sale, but I'm happy to ship them to you, my valued subscriber :) for $300 a piece instead. If you find it cheaper by chance, let me know and I'll price match. Keep in mind, they do require about an hour or two worth of install labor. (the labor itself is mostly around the carriers, and not the panniers actually). The panniers just take 6 holes and bolt on to the carriers. I use the Tusk carriers and they come with all the hardware. But they look awesome on the KLR, and are supper ample and organized. I will be releasing the full install video in the coming weeks. Simple stuff, basic mechanical skills required and fairly easy to do. If you are in SoCal, I could help you with it as well.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours sure I am interested how much are you asking for them? thank for the reply
@@pegasusmotorcycletours sorry didn't see the entire message, they sure are nice but I little more than I want to spend at the moment, thanks for the offer though.
@@csiautodetail No problem. I suggest the Tusk system then - a bit more rugged even although less spacious. Removable with a quick release too. Good luck!
Hi there. Just recently came across your channel. Congrats 👏👏 good content, fluid speech, very enjoyable to watch. I'm planning on buying my first bike and the Bmw F650gs is on my short list (not too tall, not too heavy and versatile). I found a 2002 apparently in good shape (new chain, tires, brakes,original top and side cases) but with 85000km 😬😬 the owner asks 1500€. In your opinion would it be a good deal or should I search for one with lower mileage knowing that the prices are almost double for one with 40/50000km? I appreciate your input. ✌️
Hi CJ, and welcome to my channel. I appreciate your participation in this community with your question and am glad you found the video valuable. If you liked this one, I strongly urge you to look at my BMW Sertao review - you'll find more relevant info about this GS line. As for that specific bike, I'd say it has a bit too many KM for my taste. It is a single cylinder 650 mind you so the life of these engines is not typically as long as other multi cylinder engines, and besides that it is 20years old now. Save up another grand and look for something with fewer miles - that would be my suggestion. Other factors do come into play such as how many owners the bike had, service records, age and experience of owner, etc. But I simply don't buy singles with more than 15k miles. At that point you are referencing they usually require top end work, clearance checks, gasket replacements, fell line and cable replacements, etc etc etc. I don't know where you are or how rich the market there is, but her ein Southern California 3k dollars buys a lot of bike now a days. Good luck in your search.I plan to put a video together about how to search for and evaluate/buy a used motorcycle so please consider subscribing cause I think that will be helpful for you. I also hope to hear from you when the next 3 rival 65 reviews drop (Honda XR650L, KTM SXC625, and BMW Xchallenge) and if you haven't seen my other 650 reviews already live, please do for some competition. Cheers - Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours hi Nik thanks for the reply. I'm in Europe, in Switzerland to be precise. Here the prices aren't as sweet as in the US 😁 and the GS650 apparently really holds its value. Under 15k miles prices start at 4000 + dollars or even more for the Dakar/Sertão versions 😬 the twin cylinder version starts at roughly the same price. What interested me in these bikes is the fact that they are not too tall and have a low center of gravity which I suppose would be ideal being an inexperienced rider. But as a beginner I was looking for something not too expensive. I've ridden 500cc naked bikes but I don't like the riding position and lack of comfort. That's why I turned myself towards the trail bikes. I'll have to try to test ride a couple, maybe it will help make up my mind. Keep up the good work, really enjoy your channel, it's among my favourites ✌️
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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@@pegasusmotorcycletours Hi Nik thanks for your message. I got the notification of the new video so I will for sure check it out. Keep up the good work and all the best for 2022. Cheers ✌️
The BMW’s engine with the KLR’s suspension, front wheel and rack would go a long way towards a decent bike.
That’s a clue to how I’m designing my own 1998 CCM Dakar inspired dual sport/adventure bike that addresses many of the deficiencies you’ve highlighted here, and more.
Add a lighter frame (with integral oil tank), plus an extra 5-10bhp via cam and inlet work, and lose the EFI in favour of a traditional carburettor and high mounted DNA air filter, plus the gearing you favour, and we’ve essentially got what the BMW should be, in my humble opinion.
Thank you for sharing your findings here. They’ve confirmed my own, and helped convince me my plans are on the right tract.
Ride safe.
That sounds super exciting - please keep me posted with the process - I'd love to see the end result. Also, please consider subscribing to be notified when the next reviews are published soon - the next one in particular will interest you since it reviews the G650GS Sertao - the more dirt oriented version of this BMW that is a better comparison to the KLR. After that the reviews of the BMW G650XChallenge are in the works which is another amazing ADV bike (best in class perhaps), as well as Suzuki DRZ400 - Cheers - Nik
Pegasus Motorcycle Tours & Consulting Cheers. Thank you for your words and updates. Will look out for your next vids. I’m already subscribed and hope YT keeps me posted.
I’m presently at the parts weighing stage. Many of my choices are based upon weight saving. But because I’m also building on a limited budget, I’m looking at as many parts I can scavenge from the cheap bucket.
This has lead me to check out standard silencers from various bikes (often discarded in great condition due to weight, performance suppression and ugliness), with the intention of cutting them up to remove their excess weight and performance strangling features.
The process has turned up some interesting surprises. The Yamaha system with a valve is as heavy as a house!! And after an hour of carefully chopping all the welds of the early single stainless F650GS silencer with a 1mm cutting wheel, the damned thing still won’t come apart! But the OEM Suzuki GSXR1000 can condemned by owners as UGLY, is already only 3kgs and barely restricted.
I might get around to blogging this process at some point.
@@G58 If you are so keen on shaving pounds but like the 650 GS line - have you looked into the G650X line - I presently own the XChallenge - Same 650 single, just 12 inches of suspension travlel at 350lb - amazing bike and one heck of a choice for the perfect ADV machine. They also make the Xcountry from that line - check them out and stay tuned since I will be releasing that review shortly.
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. I hope you also had the chance to watch my G650GS Sertao Review - one of my favorite motorcycles for sure. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Pegasus Motorcycle Tours & Consulting I did, but forgot to thank you. They’re quite rare here in the UK, but I am now looking. So, thanks for your great suggestions.
I plan to buy f650 2012 as daily commuter..i live in SE Asia where the road is pretty much crap in some place. How is the suspension comfort for bumpy road? I currently own Honda CRF250. Comfortable bike but 250cc is too underpowered when I got into the highway. Considering upgrade to f650gs 2012. They have excellent price compared to 1200 and 1250
Yes, I agree that abroad in such places and most of Latin America this bike is the ideal choice. The 1200s are too big, heavy and expensive and flashy (unsafe). I would never consider riding such a flashy bike down through places like Brazil or Mexico at the moment due to security issues. Thank you for watching and for commenting - please be sure to watch my BMW Sertao review, as well as the upcoming G650XChallenge. Cheers - Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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superb review. You speak very clearly and to the point, a pleasure to learn listening to you.
I'm on an edge between v strom 650 and f650gs. Somewhat leaning towards the gs, less weight and simplicity of a single is attractive, though v stroms are bulletproof in many ways... How is the f650gs to work on yourself? Parts not too expensive? thanks
Thank you for that, and thanks for being here. I've never owned the 650 Vstrom but have owned (the hell out of) two 1000s. It is an excellent motorcycle and actually, my first review wo this channel was a very detailed one of the Vstrom 1000. If you haven't seen it I would recommend it highly since it is my second most popular review.I promises you will learn a lot of useful info about the bike even if you are determined to ge the smaller brother, since a lot of the recommendations and info translates. As for which I would choose between the Suzuki and BMW - the Suzuki is definitely cheaper to upkeep, and aftermarket parts are easier to locate since they are more numerous, so if you are hoping to add a bunch of aftermarket parts on it, probably go with the Suzuki. But the GS is also proven, also bulletproof, and simple, so working on it is not a real challenge - and you need not bring it to the dealer really if you have medium level shop skills. In any case I always opt out for the simple bike and the GS is definitely more dirt capable. Also, the ABS and heated grips are. nice feature to have. And you watch the Suzuki review you will realize that I am always for getting the 1000 instead of the 650 just because its so much more bike. PS: I also reviewed the G650GS Sertao, the more dirt oriented version of the650 - that has been one of my favorite bikes so please be sure to check it out. There are so many great contenders I the single 650 ADV category, and I also review the DR650 by Suzuki and the KLR by Kawasaki. Out of all of these, the Sertao (formally the Dakar) is my favorite. I hope this helps. Cheers - Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours even your response is thorough and quick and detailed. Yes, I have watched the dl1000 video a while ago, though wasn't sure how much of it could be applied to 650 version.
I always liked dl650 very much, but the weight is a bit too much. I wish there was a slim and light 450cc version of v strom :)
Perhaps sv650 needs adventurising.
Thanks for your reply!
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. I hope you also had the chance to watch my G650GS Sertao Review - one of my favorite motorcycles for sure. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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Awesome narrative 👏. Great video, many thanks 😊..
Great to hear you enjoyed the review. If you are considering either of these bikes, I also have reviewed the BMW G650GS Sertao, and the KLR alone - I would suggest those if you liked my style and narrative since the KLR was my world tour bike and that review has great footage. PS a new review was released this past Saturday with footage form Baja Mexico - of the Honda NC750 X so if you like gorgeous scenery, please check it out and let me know what you think. Cheers and thanks for being here. Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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I'm looking at these 2 bikes. 06 650GS vs similar KLR650. I know these aren't meant for highway riding. but how which is better on highway for those times I need to get on highway? Thanks!
Actually, I have to correct you. These bikes are much more at home riding 70mph, than on difficult dirt riding 15mph. These are both meant for long distance touring, mostly highway with some dirt road capability. But they are predominantly street oriented, I'd say about 70/30%. Both have fairings that guide air away and keep the bike stable at speed, and both have windscreens for the same reason. I would recommend a cramp buster for the throttle to make the long stretches easier.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours perfect. That's exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks! Out of the two, which would you prefer riding on asphalt? I don't see myself doing any technical dirt riding except rather flat unpaved roads. It would be a longer road journey then the 5 miles I might get riding in dirt/unpaved areas
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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@@pegasusmotorcycletours I purchased a gs650 soon after review you had. Very happy with it
Thank you for review. I have one question, which pannier racks are you using on f650gs? I have some Tusk soft bags with mount plates, but don't see a rack that fits the bike. Thank you!
These racks are Hepco Becker. You are limited to this brand or Touratech and SW Motech or the BMW.
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Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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You deserve much higher subscriptions
Thanks for your support. I started 2 years ago and the channel has been growing rapidly since then. I also released a video in the first week of this year showing all the reviews that are coming up. If you liked this review, may I suggest that you also see my BMW sertao and KLR specific reviews as well. Thanks for your support and for spreading the word. Cheers, Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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you can remove the catalytic conveter in the tail pipe freeing up airflow and weight, after 5 years when it expires anyway and use space for storage.
Thanks for watching that awesome tip. How does ot effect the noise?
The f650 will be my first motorcycle in 1 month after i will take the exam ! Safe ride! Cheers
Thanks for watching. I've reviewed every competitor to these two so be sure to check out the playlist. This list includes the awesome Serrano/Dakar, and please consider subscribing, and you'll get notified when my favorite bmw thumper adv bike review goes l live of the rare G650xchallenge. Happy hunting.
Great Bike!!! Great Review!!, Awesome Channel!!. I own a BMW F650gs 2000, same colour. I Love the bike and enjoy every ride. At the present, got the radiator hit by a little road stone and had to remove to fix it. Haven't found any one here in New Zealand to do it so I doing it myself as everything. Just wondering to know why the hell dual sport adventure bikes and dirt bikes come without a radiator guard, is my complaint to every motorcycle brand on this genres. Keep the shine side up Nik. 👍
Thanks much! That is sad to hear honestly - and can imagine how frustrating it must be. If it's a small leak I noticed anew product in a tube in my local auto parts store by the register which is supposed to plug that. There are also epoxies that you combine that harden to plug smaller holes. Mythbusters - the popular American TV show did an episode on the myth of putting eggs into the radiator - I won't spoil the concussion for you but wish you good luck with the repair. Thanks for the support - please consider tuning in on Saturday for a premier of the review of the DRZ400 at noon.
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Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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Your reviews are so good sir , i have a doubt , i have the opportunity of buying a 650 sertao 2013 (14k km) and a 650 2008 lime yours (20k km) , wich one would you advice me to buy ?
Definitely the Sertao - it's more capable, more advanced, easier to sell, rarer, more valuable, less miles, newer, etc. Easy choice - it's a keeper too. Thanks for being here.
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. I hope you also had the chance to watch my G650GS Sertao Review - one of my favorite motorcycles for sure. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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Excellent content
Thanks for watching. I've reviewed other bikes from the gs line as well as nearly everything other competidor in the 650 line. Cheers. Nik
Oh man, I miss my Funduro. Never had the chance to use it the way it was meant to be used but for the short time I had it it was a great bike
Luckily the market is flooded with them - not as common as the KLR but still easy to acquire. Keep looking and you will have another in no time. Thanks for the comment.
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Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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From what I gather the GS is better suited for ticking off highway miles than the KLR, along with it's astounding MPG. However the KLR redeems itself with rugged simplicity and immensely cheaper parts when repairs are required. I'd take the KLR anytime off road, the GS seems like too nice of a bike to abuse. Just my 2 cents because I'm currently in the market for a dual sport and these two are in the running-it's simply a matter of which one I can get a better deal on. I plan on mainly blacktops and gravel roads with some city commuting, so perhaps a GS will suit me better.
That would be a correct assessment. The GS comes with more standard features such as switchable aBS and heated grips, but it's more expensive to equip and own. The KLR has been around for a long time and will never let you down, although both motors are iconic. The GS is more powerful though and one can easily fell it. It is also lower and easier to handle cause of the weight distribution. Since you are looking, go through my motorcycle review playlist cause I have numerous 650 and smaller thumper ADV bike reviews, including the amazing G650GS Sertao - one of my favorite motorcycles.
If you enjoyed this I invite you to definitely take a look at my KLR review - It claims to be the most complete review on TH-cam and portray footage I shot from my 40k miles tour across North America and Europe. Amazing scenery there. th-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/w-d-xo.html
Kawasaki liked it so much they invited me to the press release of the new KLR later in the year so please consider subscribing to get notified when that comes out. Also, this Saturday at noon I will premier a new review of the Honda NC700X - another great bike that should been your hit list, and at the end I show which other 650 Thumper reviews are upcoming. Be well in the meantime and I hope to hear form you I the future. Happy hunting. Nik
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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@@pegasusmotorcycletours Same back to you and thank you. I ended up finding a 2018 KLR with only 5k on the clock which the PO had fitted with heated grips and Tusk engine guard. I haven't really gone off road yet-but it's great riding through and over construction sites and gravel roads knowing the KLR was made to go wherever you like in most cases.
The most surprising thing for me is how comfortable it is, especially with the VStream aftermarket tall windshield I just added. It's definitely a simple, rugged no frills bike. I'm thinking perhaps next year or so I'll trade in while the bike still has resale value to get the new version-or perhaps a GS. For now, I'm happy!
rim kits will allow you to run at zero psi . no rim damage or need for inner tubes. nuetech tyre kits tubeless kits
I've had those and loved em.
How about sertao?
Amazing bike. I reviewed my own sertao, please see through the playlist.
I have a Aprilia Pegaso, same engine! Unfortunately it gives more than one problem... But i love it anyway!
Thanks for the comment - I've been looking for one but two carbs turn me off. Not a huge fan of the looks either and Aprilias infamous electrical problems, but I would buy one if they were more common on the market. Right now I am building up my Honda XR650L, my KTM SXC625 and my BMW G650XChallenge - I am glad you found the video useful - please consider supporting my channel by subscribing so that you can get notified when the other 3 650 reviews come out. Also - I am curious - what have been the major issues with the Pegaso?
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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Nice thorough comparison. Thanks. Subscribed
Thanks for being here - be sure to watch my BMW Sertao review if you are considering the BMW - it's more dirt oriented and more capable than this. Also, I hope you find this KLR specific review more helpful. th-cam.com/video/KMVxuvy7A74/w-d-xo.html
Glad to have you here - thanks for participating in the conversation. I also released a video in the first week of this year showing what exciting reviews are coming in 2021, including a review of the sister bike BMW G650XChallenge - much, much more capable than this GS - th-cam.com/video/ydQ1LMAFiVI/w-d-xo.html
I hope to hear from you in the future. Cheers - N
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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you can convert the wheels to tubeless with kits. done it. works gret. ive done 125 000 km in Southern Africa and Namibia on my F650 gs 2003 model.
Wow that would be one hecho of a trip!
Very good video, I learned a few things
Glad to hear it! Welcome to the channel and community. Nik
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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also please get chain lube auto kits / scotoiler. changes the life of chains and sprocket x 5 longer and saves money by ton on stupid lube sparays and cleaning. continuous lubing increases mech effiency
I've heard good things. Thanks for the rec.
Hey man! Thank you for awesome video. How tall are you?
Zdravstvuyte Igor - Glad to have you here. I am 5'9'', or 172cm. 170Lb / 80kg.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Thanks for answering. I'm 171, so I was worried if it's possible for me to ride such bikes. I'm considering to buy f650gs as a first bike.
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Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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I like the F 650 thanks for a great review. 👍🇬🇧
I am glad you found the review helpful - thanks for participating. Cheers and greetings from San Diego. Nik
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Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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thank you so much for this detailed comparison, how tall are you im 6.1 is bmw f650gs the right size? thanks
Hi there. Glad you found it useful. I am 5.8, 170 lb. I think you would find the GS bit to cramped for your needs. The KLR sits 5 inches higher and I am tippy toes on it. The Sertao or Dakar version is a bit taller than the regular GS, but the controls still feel more cramped than on a KLR. Good luck!
Don‘t know if it is still important, but I had no problems being 6.3 tall.
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Great video. Thank you.
Glad you found your time well spent. Thanks
Excellent review, thanks .
Glad you found it helpful and glad to have you here. Please consider subscribing to be notified when the next reviews are published soon - the next one in particular will interest you since it reviews the G650GS Sertao - the more dirt oriented version of this BMW that is a better comparison to the KLR. After that the reviews of the BMW G650XChallenge are in the works, as well as Suzuki DRZ400 - Cheers - Nik
Exciting news about the new KLR eh?! I look forward to getting my hand s on one of em. PS: A new review is premiering today, in about half an hour at noon - it is a review of the KLR's competitor, the Suzuki DRZ400 in case you've considered a much lighter and much more dirt capable bike with similar power output. I hope to see you there. Cheers - Nik th-cam.com/video/PAE6Yx7a5kA/w-d-xo.html
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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What year is the GS here?
This is a 2003
Thanks, I am looking at 2006/07 models, as that is what is in my area. How many kms was it when you did the review (I am trying to get a gauge on what point I should worry about kms, most here have about 50-80,000)? Thanks for the reveiw.
Greetings. I hope all is well with you and yours in 2022. I wanted to let you know that I released a comprehensive review of the newest KLR in case you might be interested. A much better bike and a better competitor to the GS650 line of bikes. I hope you find it informative. Thanks for the support. Cheers - Nik
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I had a 650 GS for about 3 weeks, until i got hit on it and ended up selling what was left after the accident. I did not spend much to buy it and i really was not too sad to see the last of it because it was way too small for me. They are really tiny compared to the KLR and DR.
They are definitely lower, and then that's why they feel smaller. The seat height makes a big difference. If you prefer a toddler bike, check out my review of the honda xr650l. BMW also released the X challenge from the 650 line, which is 350 pounds for the same engine. And a lot more travel. I have also reviewed the 650gs sertao which is taller. Thanks for watching.
No toddler bikes for me, thx. I like tall 650 thumpers and I have owned alot of them at one time or another... the aforementioned GS, a KLR, XR and DR and I rode a 1991 600 XT extensively in northern Thailand over the course of 3 years, back in my younger days. @@pegasusmotorcycletours
I’ve got 8.3” travel front and rear on my 2002 650 Dakar.
Thanks for watching. Please stay tuned for my.revoew of the xchallenge. Most capable of the GS line.