Tia Mowry Says Men Aren't Courting Women Anymore
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ต.ค. 2023
- Subscribe NOW to The Breakfast Club: ihe.art/xZ4vAcA
Get MORE of The Breakfast Club:
► LISTEN LIVE: bit.ly/3r17qJm
► CATCH UP on What You Missed: ihe.art/Dx2xSGN
► FOLLOW us on Instagram: / breakfastclubam
► FOLLOW us on Twitter: / breakfastclubam
► LIKE us on Facebook: / breakfastclubam
Executive Producer: Eddie F.
DP/Sr. Video Director: Nick Ciofalo
Video Editor: Elijah Lugo
Social Media Manager: Sydney Brown
Producer: Taylor Hayes
Producer: Brandon Tagoe
Producer: Symantha Wilson
Board Op/Producer: Christopher Arce
Writer/Producer: Big Mack
Podcast Producer: Arthur Roques
The Breakfast Club features celebrity interviews, Charlamagne tha God’s Donkey of the Day, Rumor Reports, DJ Envy’s mixes and so much more! Every guest visiting the world’s most dangerous morning show is grilled with their signature blend of honesty and humor. The results are the best interviews to be found on radio.
#BreakfastClub - บันเทิง
![[TH] Esports World Cup : Grand Final](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/sedbKhFYDMo/mqdefault.jpg)
As a society, we desperately need to STOP makin blanketed statements of entire groups of ppl. If your sentence starts with over generalizing a whole group of ppl I can guarantee you your wrong. All men don’t do the same thing and all women don’t do the same things. It’s makes ppl sound dumb when they do this.
When’s the next ERB review bro?
Ppl talkin in majority not all that’s obvious af we talkin bout wat majority of ppl do nobody cares about wat the 5% of the world is doing
FACTS
@@500beatz5it’s not 5%. Stop being dense. His point stands
Facts
I started courting my wife back in 2009. And she was the only girl I ever courted because she was the only girl to accept me for who I was as a person. The rest of the girls came into the relationship with baggage from their previous relationships and had intentions of changing who I was to fit the mold of their standards. Those girls weren’t “courting material” for my standards. But my wife was worth it and is still worth to this very day.
Well said.......u can't court a 304/hoe!
That’s what’s up !! 🙏🏼
Courting is damn near nonexistence because we live in a "on to the next one" type of mentality. It's so easy to swipe, match and unmatch based on the smallest thing that irritates them in the conversation. Ghosting is a thing now as well. People are detaching their emotions and moving on quickly.
Technology has basically taken over some people minds, not to mention their way about treating others. For example, it's much easier to ghost someone than it is to have an honest discussion.
It’s looking pitiful out there, people will post on social media apps all day. When you meet them in person they can’t even hold a full adult intellectual conversation. I noticed a guy turn into a nervous wreck every time I made eye contact with him.
People have very little patience today. Like you said, one little argument and they chunking the deuces. People barely "talk" anymore like verbal conversations its mostly being done through DMs.
Perfectly said
People have also lowered their own value and are not worth courting or it takes time to find someone who is and learn that. Out of the gate, NOW, most men are not finding most women are worth courting (for many different reasons including those apps, not being pure/virgins, not having fathers or fathers involved, not seeking marriage, being independent, etc).
It’s so strange to watch this shift in men’s mentality in regards to dating women. Before I was married the most fun I ever had was going out with the homies and trying to bag girls. Seeing who could could get a girl to get her number and get her and her friends to hang out with us and by the end of the summer everyone had someone they could call because we kept up with “courting” that girl. After nearly over a decade of being married to my wife I still court and keep up the things that bring her joy because I like seeing her happy.
Alot has changed in a decade..so by you being married its been a huge shift with the females..so men are now responding to the shift thats all..if the women dnt like it they going to have to fix it first
@@RidewithDEEbesttransportation I gotta take your word for it because I’m not outside anymore. I wish y’all good fortune with finding something worth while because It looks real ghetto out there.
@@coolblack1yea the dating scene has change I think it's because social media disconnected people & society people are getting brainwashed by what they see on social media now back then you had to go outside & around people for everything
& this music is another it's all this rachet toxic behavior going back then woman had they rachet ways but they hid it more out of the way carrying yourself with class was big & we had more love song's relationships music that we could listen to around are girl's
Everything change
One major difference is numbers aren't given out anymore. It's IG and Snap now. You jus become a name in her contacts now. I often tell stories to my younger co-workers about how it was jus like you described it. After a whole summer of "courting" those girls would be your flex for the winter...fun times 😅
Yea right the shift is in 304s and Men will NOT adjust to accepting 304s
The problem is the type of men that women WANT aren't the types who court ladies. The kind of men who do court women are deemed 'too nice' or 'not everything on their checklist of wants in a man' so they get ignored/friend zoned.
What's the use of courting a woman in the hopes that she'll be with you only for her to leave you in a heartbeat to let a Pookie or Ray Ray smash without a sign of courting?
On top of that, some women find courting a sign of weakness if the guy shows his love and appreciation for her.
Facts. The only girls I ever got are the ones that I IGNORED.. 😂 F*ck I look like trying to EARN your attention.. women are a unique species lol.. and I’m actually handsome 🙄
I agree, to me these 2023 relationships are weird
This false narrative that women don't want nice guys or good guys is so tired. Wrap it up, please.
@@Jack_Hammer_Abrams Doesn't have to be all it just too many, stereotypes are not lies they are just overblown generalizations.
@@Jack_Hammer_Abramsyes most women all want the same things in men. Tall physically attractive with money. These guys have their pick and don’t have to court shit 💯
We been saying this. She just now listening bc she’s tryna jump out there now. Ain’t no love to be found in these streets. She was better off staying right where she was.
Envy is speaking from the perspective of a married man. He fails to realize the times have changed. And “courting” doesn’t produce the same results as it has in years past. You court someone all you want. Until you find out she’s seeing 3-4 other dudes. Maybe some of them she’s sleeping with without any of the same effort. It’s going to change how you feel about a person. And vice versa. It’s hard for women to be submissive and nurturing to a man and give all their love and attention, when he’s sleeping with 5 other women (most of the time unprotected).
We have to find a way back to valuing ourselves first. And dating with purpose. Stop sleeping around. Build meaningful friendships and relationships. That’s key to having a fulfilling and meaningful connection.
@@Jack_Hammer_Abrams you are correct. There’s an abundance of single people everywhere. But do they all have the same intentions of finding love?
It just seems like people these days prefer the instant gratification from attention online or sex as opposed to putting in the real work that’s required to build and maintain relationships. You have to be willing to endure the ups and downs. Most people aren’t willing to work that hard. First sign of any conflict or challenge and they’re out.
Preach.
women aren't even women anymore. why court someone you apparently cant even tell to not have her azz out and not be all up on another man? men usually court women because afterwards that's his woman and she would honor and respect him. thats not how it is today. women expect to talk about nothing but themselves, say how much they don't need a man then think men will be there at their feet. those days are over
I wish I could hug you girly! I just posted something similar… I said that truthfully-it’s BOTH genders that have killed traditional dating/courting/relationships/marriage…
And the reason is because of SEX.
Men expect sex with putting in little to NO effort…
And women are SO busy competing with the rest of the women for a man’s acceptance that she has devalued herself…. SO she willingly gives up her body and EXPECTS nothing in return for doing so because she hopes that the man will value that she isn’t “combative” or “materialistic” or a “gold digger” for asking/wanting/demanding simple things like dates…
@@biancampeacockI agree with most of your comment but the type of men that have sexual access to multiple women are a small minority ( less than 20% ) of men..The body count numbers for men and women have flipped.. the average woman has a higher body count than the average man.. this stems from the modern women's hypergamus nature and modern women not requiring committment before sex. The majority of single modern women are focused on a minority of men..
If a woman is not made to feel special (or a man) why would they want to be with you? If you listen to what Tia actually said, she says "we "(men and women) don't court each other.
Women have never courted tho lmao
Same way the other way too. Y'all can't expect to be treated well but treat a man like 💩 or treat him like he's not there so it's both ways
They weren't listening at all.
Many men are so soft and sensitive nowadays. They want to be courted and provided for. Gimme a break. 😂 No wonder there are so many of them trying to become women.
@@jillharley993we were, but tia wasn't talking about women doing the courting. Y'all have a tendency to try to group everybody, men and women together, when it comes to problematic behavior, when by and large, this is a problem for yall
I hate seeing marriages fall apart and it’s unfortunate Tia and Corey couldn’t have worked out their issues. Tia is learning that the streets are COLD. Times have changed. The game has changed. Wishing her well.
FACTS, getting divorced in your mid 40s is crazy, Corey seems like a good dude too.
Facts...she was a fool for breaking up her family
@@dn30001but did he cheat?? Was she suppose to accept that stuff ?
@@wadduphotthing Who told you that he cheated? SHE SURE DIDN'T say he cheated. Not sure where you are getting your info from 😂 females ALWAYS making up situations in their head to justify breaking up a family
Corey wanted to be courted. Of course they got a divorce.
“If you choose to be in the streets, the streets are COLD and if you get the chills, it is what it is” 🥴 shitttttt someone drop a Clues bomb for Jason 👏🏻 🔥
I’m 28 years old and this is my first time hearing about “Being courted”
Just want to add to the mess; letting y’all know there’s a large number of us that don’t even know wtf women be on.
Oh I know. While you’re courting they’re doing the fucking on the guy they want. The guy they lust after doesn’t jump thru hoops
You've never had a man pay for a date and pursue you? That is what courting is. Maybe you've been courted and didn't know the term.
@@user-dv3kq3rm4hthat's not courting, that's dating. Courting is dating with the intention of marriage.
Imagine embarrasing and then divorcing your significant other in full view of the public. Imagine saying you graduated from the marriage and family that you built together. And then imagine being shocked when nobody else wants to sign up to be the next person you do that to. 🤷🏾
EXACTLY THIS!!! People act like they don’t know why people don’t want to be bothered with her backstabbing, feminist behind.
@Extol-mg3dy you're a hater looking for a man yourself.
Facts on Facts on Facts!
Women love playing the victim even while being the perpetrator
Hey we told to stay home. These single streets are bad. If he wasn’t cheating or beating on her she should have tried harder to work it out.
DJ Envy, I totally agree, usually around the age 40 and above most people have children, it is very important to set an example to show your children what love and how to get to the point of being in a relationship. It is a process and not a race, I prefer getting to know someone before intimacy, men don't court, people don't court, and we are all worthy of love and loving relationships. Courting is beautiful, it's learning what a person likes and dislikes.
People cannot put value on others and they don't even value themselves.
If men were as loud on social media about being cheated on, being lied to, being manipulated, women may just understand why men are less enthusiastic about courting and marriage. We can have a tennis match of issues amongst genders but the reality is tradition has proved to not work . And sadly social media has done irreparable harm to the minds of our people. Finding someone who truly lives and values tradition- respect, loyalty, not overstepping roles will be like finding a needle in a haystack.
PREACH
Big facts!!💯💯💯👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
This was the subject matter in my bible study group yesterday most weren't aware of how men don't publicly express issues but most women do and sometimes shouldn't express all personal issues on social media and I personally think some women make things more embarrassing by doing so because honestly most people on social media are spreading criticism towards others that tell all personal business 😉
They are, society simply just doesn’t accept women being capable of those things because they’re put on a pedestal.
Go ahead, ask a co-worker about a wife cheating on her husband. The first reaction you’ll get is “well, what did he do?”
If you reverse it where the husband cheated, the reaction you’ll get is “men are dogs.”
Nah that would just be a weak man we have to build shit not cry cuz u got cheated on I get it that shit hurts but that's why we can get a 25 year old at 60 life go on
Tia just got a taste of the real dating world. It’s hard out here in these streets.
That "I'm the prize" attitude will have you lonely everytime! Whether you're a woman or a man, you have to do for your significant other. A successful reltionship is the prize. We're both working towards that. You have to have the same energy to make it work in the relationship as I do!
People want to say and be the prize without actually showing and proving they are!
Preach
Just say women
@ksisniipez it's not just women though. There are some men out here who think that because they drop off a bag of money they don't have to participate in the emotional side of the relationship. It's all about her giving 100% and him giving 100%.
The dating market favors women so much they can have one fwb, one sugar daddy, one platonic friend who's being lead on. All that instead of one man who might lack one or two of those things
My man courted me for 6 months 🙌🏽❤️
i think the issue with Tia was she really believed she will have a million different options that's why she rushed to leave the marriage/relationship all because she got a bunch of dudes in her DM's not realizing that 99% of those guys just wanna smash.
here we have it fellas.
Another case of a woman conflating men that want to smash with men that wants a relationship
Maaaaaaan men her age have be courting women for 25 plus years and we're fucking tired. If you're single, go after what you want and stop waiting for someone to approach you. A closed mouth doesn't get fed, and a shy person rarely gets head!😂
That rhyme at the end 😂😂🙌🏾🙌🏾😂😂😂
@@missa9313 mixtape dropping soon! 😂
Don Damarco!!!!!
@@jaiazandapherBar's lol at the end
She never said that men shouldn't believe they are not the prize but too often they don't feel they need to do anything to make a woman feel special. Charlemagne are you saying that once you get a certain age you should not be courted. Dude, please!
A lot of women these days have become very entitled. A lot of women expect things from men that they will never reciprocate.
If you disagree with that you gotta see how some women will literally complain and be angry at anything that has to do with serving their man. Those same women expect men to go above and beyond to make them happy. A lot of men ain't going for that shit anymore. We treat ourselves like the prize now. You gotta work for us too.
I'm sure he will want his daughters consistently courted by their future partners. Sometimes I think he just says things to be contrarian. He's said in the past that he does everything he can for his wife to keep her happy so he's clearly still courting her.
Men are the prize because a woman wants a man that's equal if not better than them in every metric
Wasn't courting traditionally for virgins and chaste women? If a woman was promiscuous back in the day she wasn't courted because her perceived value was low... In this modern era of female sexual liberation, slu± walks, hoe phases, women with bodycounts in the double/triple digits by the first date, women using roster dating tactics to date multiple men at once, etc... courting is simply unrealistic.
You can't compete by staying the same as the world around you changes; *Women changed a lot so men have adapted.*
A lot of women aren't special though.
Tia...get in line sis, some of us have already been waiting🤷🏿♀️😂.
Bruh courting is actually fun asf. I still practice courting.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾I'm married and I court my wife. Courting is the sht and low key an ego boost.
That caller sounded old as hell talking about she was 36 talking to a 49 year old. She sounded like she was 55 even the guys were shocked 😂😂😂
We live in a Red Pill/MGTOW era and dudes are tired of being strung along. Might not be her doing it, but the way the dating scene looks now with women just trying to get free food and material things from men and not pursue relationships, that's what she has to deal with.
Facts
Very true brother
Sista's Go Get It Come Agenda 2030 And The Next Plandemic 😂
Tia has worked since she was a teenager. I doubt that she is looking for a free meal
100%
She just left her husband. Women move on in a drop of a hat now. No one fights to stay together anymore
This is very true
She didn’t just leave them, they BEEN separated and before that I’m sure she was mentally checked out
14 YEARS. That's pretty impressive for Black Hollywood.
14:38 Tia is not telling why she divorced her husband, because it was for a dumb reason.
She knows she would get judged and it will make him look good.
If he cheated she would have screamed it from the roof tops till this day.
Many women remain quiet for the sake of the children. So unless you know them personally your comment is a negative reflection of yourself.
@@estelleoliver757 Ummmm… saying that she graduated from her marriage publicly doesn’t protect the kids and making her divorce public has nothing to do with me.
If she really cared about protecting her family we wouldn’t hear about it at all and she wouldn’t be going on a “single ladies” tour of interviews.
Maybe think about your comment for 5 minutes before typing.
You know them folks? Because you talking negative about that women like you witness their marriage. She’s a celebrity it’s going to be public but the reason doesn’t have to be.
@@estelleoliver757 Look at how she’s handling it and look how Jeezy is handling his. Very different.
Jeezy is not going on interviews, looking for validation through social media and TH-cam interviews.
I know you stay cape-ing for her here, but I'm sure you don’t know her, either.
Yes, we don’t know the reason, but she's still very vocal about leaving him and being single. All she cares about is her public perception. If she wasn't, then these videos wouldn't exist.
I don’t know them which is why I have NOTHING NEGATIVE to say about either of them!!!!
Thank You DJ Envy!! 😊 💓 ☺️
Women killed courting
The amount of women that get online and clown the dudes that actually court them while giving it up to a guy that she knows isn't bf material
Social media been the silent killer of relationships for a minute.
Too many men and women are exposing themselves online and showing most of them aren't worth the effort on either side.
Exactly and now that women in my generation at least (millennial/gen-Z) are trying to court men now are showing them how it feels via rejecting them and they don’t like it they don’t like that. They actually have to put in work now.
i sadly agree with this. it’s the whole feminist “we can do it all” movement. okay sis, now court yourself 😂😂😂
@@_livefearless You're remedial and you clearly dont know what feminism is. You're taking online incel talking points and regurgitating them.
@@_livefearless🤣🤣 at “court yourself”
We're courting women. They're just passing us up.
Lies and slander....y'all don't do the minimum and say hi to women...how you gone court them? 😅😅😅
@@mrs.g.r.n You don’t know me to make this comment. I’m a 44 year old man that courts women. But if you don’t have that going for you then just say that. 🙂
@@ronnyg3871 you tried it 🤣🤣 the first go to....is ASSuming a woman that's not a ball worshipping pickmeisha is single....no....there's always a dude in my face, wishing....those of us that are taken are spectators in this sport....it's hilarious to watch...
Yep. The men that court women, the women don't want because the men they do want, they don't care about him doing the minimum! It's wanted if they like them. It's sexual harassment and a nuisance if they don't.
@@mrs.g.r.nmen court women that don't want them. Play in your own lane and you'll find women that like you
I’m 35 an I basically gave up asking girls out because the game is unbearable, u gotta portray a fake version of yourself just to get the person to like u and if u slip up to early and show your real personality they’re gone. It’s too hard
Lol well maybe if you didn’t spend the beginning being fake, they wouldn’t leave when you act like yourself…
And maybe look inward to see what it is about your true self that is such a p*ssy deterrent lol. Cuz it’s clearly something
What's wrong with your personality?
Women love me bro
@@LetsGeTDeepexactly 😂 like huh?
Just work on your game and seek coaching from someone more experienced than you
Be real and a real one will make themselves available. But also think about who you are and what you want from your partner.
I love it when married men talk about dating & courting women.
Everytime I hear either one of them say "Eboni William said", I just think how Kevin Samuels said the same thing and they hated him for it.
She's 40 let's be real older men wants younger women
I'm 33. I tell men I like to be courted. The ones who want to continue getting my attention court me
Looks like you got 8 😂
I am young and still old school. I will not subject my life to no gentleman to not doing the basic necessities of courting and dating with intentions and ways
Charla better stayed married because with the way he thinks is crazy! Courting should be normal no matter how old you are.
Exactly! It has nothing to do with “market value”, it has everything to do with how the man was raised.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 gtfoh so u rather yur son court every women he meets. No matter if she's the devil. So 10 women court all 10. Spend on all 10. & when all 10 finish using u. Try again on 11. That makes u a real man getting used. 😆 🤣 yall mad we finally woke 😆 🤣
Let’s be clear - the men SHE is pursuing are not courting women anymore. Come to the south Tia. We here…
Ain’t to many man nowhere courting a single mother of 2 🤣🤣🤣 idc where you go.. most likely she want a rich man and they ain’t paying no 40 yr old no attention
She would not spit on you if you were on fire because of how much money you make or lack there of!
And the issue is not the men .. she doesn't want you smh she complaining about her pool she doesn't wanna swim in your pond. Women call that settling
There are men in the south still courting 😉. She's must be looking in the wrong places.
@@CerebralSigma -- niqqas on the westcoast just know the score 🤷♂️
Is this the first time I have agreed with Envy? LOL. People should continue to court their partners whether you are 20, 50, or 80. The idea that there is an age limit is strange to me. And why is CTG assuming courtship is solely based on financial transactions? One of my most prized possessions is a beautifully written letter from my partner.
Today that means man spends money, woman gives sex that she likes just as much as man. That’s what it is
Envy got to do that because he don’t satisfy his wife in the bed. She said shes been faking it for 20 years. 😂
Courting your SPOUSE, yes 💯
Cause most people see courting as a transaction
Thank you, DJ Envy!
The game has changed and so too have the pieces on the board... Men aren't courting women because we live in a world where both/all genders are independent, self reliant and establish self worth to the point that traditional relationships are damn near unnecessary to them cause they aren't willing to compromise because they view it as settling for less.
Some truth to that
Yes woman aren’t damsels and men aren’t masculine 😂😂😂anymore
@@Couture426 Men aren't masculine????? WHAT???? How has society emasculated men????
My only point is the man or woman that puts in a little extra effort (courting) is going to come out further ahead then the one that does the bare minimum. I think that what has changed for both genders in the dating game is that the increased use of dating apps make people feel as if they can always find someone better just around the corner so why should they do "more". And before anyone starts arguing, I said this applies to both sexes.
Interesting take on this.
Tia Mowry went on social media and said she graduated from marriage and expect for a man to court her. You really can’t make this shit up. No mam, men just are not courting you. People in her age demographic ain’t stupid enough to put time into a person who ultimately shows that they will leave even if nothing is wrong. This place is delusional as hell!!!!!
As for DJ ENVY who is teaching your son to know they are special as well.
“What happen to for better or for worse is that not a thing anymore” 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Well Said Jason Lee
A great relationship is the prize. And that comes when both side put in the same level of effort. All parties getting exactly what they need from the relationship is the prize.
From what I see, at a certain age men lose interested in dating anymore. Most men I’ve spoken too just keep to themselves, or spend time with their friends and family. I think some people just lose interest in dating after while.
They’d rather pay a prostitute then go on a date cause at least they know they’ll get something in return
@@MikeDexClusive it sounds like you speaking from personal experience my guy, cuz no one i talked to said that 🤣🤣🤣.
@@iAmMarcellus 🤷🏾♂️
Actual headline: Modern woman thought she could do bad all by herself only to find these streets are cold.
We don’t know what happened in their relationship,they been together 20 years. 20 years for Hollywood is a lot of time.
I’m sure they tried everything.
Why would I court a 45 year old single mother of two that left her husband because the relationship didn’t “serve” her anymore??
She’s a millionaire . Not your average single mother
@@Zee-ob1pe And you know EXACTLY what her account balance is?
Ever since women became "sexually liberated" walking around half naked and sleeping with and having babies with anyone rather than "The One".
These practices that were once shamed now became celebrated and Courting kind of phased itself out after that.
Yes, it lowered their value and they don't realize it. Hence, you don't get courted. You're not worth it (unless you are and prove it so).
Interesting
Women are always blamed for everything nowadays
@@nunya54the irony is that those women have become the men they always hated .lol
I didn’t know courting had an age limit.. the standards are low out her😂
Based on social media, the bar is in hell sis 😂
What he's saying is after a certain age and number of experiences people are just exhausted and have the is what it is mentality
If u wanna be around cool..if I dont still cool
But I'm not doing anything extra..
U have to think at a certain point people have had some questionable experiences so things shift in the matters department
The men she wants (high earning, tall, attractive black man I am assuming) doesn’t have to court because of the endless options of women they have chasing him. There are men that would court her but it might not be the man she really wants
Good conversation
He told me this isn't the 70's anymore so I need to get over myself! 😂😂😂😂
Didn’t she just leave her husband?
Nah remember she "graduated" from her husband! Lol
Cory will be back in there
TrAdiTiOn
Sexercise😂
@@datnigganameTJ92 😂😂
I’m 36 and my most recent guys have courted me, same age group as me.
Thank you Envy!
Thank you Envy❤❤❤
People are getting too cerebral with dating. Tia has 2 kids, and she made a sketchy choice and left her husband. Dudes ain't checking for HER.
These three are the last people I would ever take advice on regarding relationships.
Good episode
I disagree that because she is older, she has no value. I am 48 and actively dating. My age range is 40-55. I have been dating consistently (even if it hasn’t been turning into anything.)
So I’m wondering where the narrative is coming from. Please provide feedback.
It's not that you don't have value but it is true that your value to men in the dating pool changes. It's the same for men. When men are young, skinny and broke women typically don't value them. But when men are 35, rich and full of muscles the women love them.
Tia… I love you but, your a mid 40 year old single mother / ex wife, ain’t nobody courting you 😂 FOR WHAT?!
1:52 😂 Charla took the words right out of my brain
I’m so sick of envy I swear 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🙄
One day women will finally look in the mirror and accept the fact that dating is the way it is these days because of them.
Thank you Envy
These women don’t know what they want
They want the next IG model is getting and flaunting with her sugar daddy and paypig simps!
Amen
The problem is we are in a now movement. Everyone wants it now. Also when you court a woman now a days the man is called a simp or they call it love bombing
Courting is NOT love bombing…
If the man wasn’t doing anything to show any effort or actions that progressed the relationship forward and then when the woman was about to leave and move forward with her life he comes in and “court” her so that she wouldn’t terminate the relationship-THATS love bombing.
Just showing affection, going on dates, genuinely spending time, and getting to know a woman, etc. from the Very Beginning and doing so consistently is courting
@@naturalvibes9014 Thanks for the education lesson. I keep getting different definitions of love bombing. One person told me it’s when I man loves and woman who doesn’t love him. Or a man trying to buy things and be affectionate so a woman can love her quicker. If I knew your Tik Tok I would tag you in that post.
@@Omegasupreme21it can be that as well. Love bombing can be a man that comes on too strong too fast in order to rush a relationship. A lot of these situations became abusive situations, please consider both sides to the hesitations🙏🏽
I don’t feel sorry for Tia. She left her husband on her own because she said she was bored. What exactly did she expect? She had it all. And threw it away for nothing. Girl, please. Go sit down somewhere. You reap what you sow.
She's 45 with two kids, a 5 year old and a 12 year old. That's a handful for any new man. If she was HONEST, she wanted a man earning two or three times what she makes and can wear her out in the bedroom. Cory's done mostly guest roles on TV and video on demand thrillers - it's a steady income but nothing of status, not like A-movies like Marvel and Disney blockbusters. She married a TV star like herself...
@@matthewprince9705… I don’t know if you’re saying that about him as an excuse for her leaving a good man who works and make more money then the average man or not. Regardless of money cause money is not important regardless what ppl say. Having someone stable and that’s good to you is what matters. And she threw it away cause she said she was “bored.” Now she can be old and alone. No one will put that type of effort into her like her ex husband did. Especially considering she publicly divorced him for noting. No man will walk into that same trap.
This is a sad era smh
It’s not based on romance and love anymore.
Social media & this music , & people are not going off God's values anymore
You need to make a certain amount of money for a woman to let you court them. 😂
Age is irrelevant to this conversation. It’s based on standards and having patience to wait for what you want. This applies to Tia and ladies like her.. practice patience and not expecting instant gratification. Society is based on the latter…
@@Jack_Hammer_Abramswhat do you deem as unrealistic? I've seen women have the most basic requirements from a man and men will attack her. There was a woman who posted the other day about wanting a loving, honest man and men were attacking her saying she wants too much.
@@jas1565you don't think like a man so you take what she said at surface level when we know it means more than that. The things y'all want us to be mind readers about. You can show someone you love them by writing them a love letter and a picnic in the park. We don't see those things talked about. Is always materialistic things.
Age is very relevant because men her age don't want to play the games she's trying to play. She literally said men don't make women feel special anymore ... you expect men to make you feel special after you just left a marriage not because something went wrong but because you were unhappy?? Just like you shouldn't look for a partner when you are battling things internally, you shouldn't end a Marriage because of unhappiness. Happiness is within. She made the emotional decision to leave her man. No smart person would take her seriously when she's shown she has no emotional stability.
@@Jack_Hammer_Abrams I'm talking about grown men on social media who took issue with a woman stating traits she wants in a man then attacking said woman for those standards claiming "she's asking for too much" or questioning if she's deserving of bare minimum standards. I would hope you're not implying that social media is not real life.. if so, please save it, I'm not arguing with stupidity.
@@Jack_Hammer_Abramshow do you know any of that was going on when neither of them have spoken on it, and even if it was yeah you stay, work, and build. People grow apart and when you're married that's the time to figure out how to build a bridge back to each other. Y'all people are quitters and it shows in y'all dating lives and social topics.
They broke up because she makes more money smh. But she knew he made less but he has been a great husband and great father. And she still chose to leave him smh
Notice how Envy spoke to how he teaches his daughters how they should be treated and his son's how they should treat women. There is nothing wrong with this statement however the part that most parents leave out is teaching their daughters how to treat men. When all you do is preach about how women should be treated it gives a perception that it's a one way street and women are often not equipped to care for a man. It's a major gap we have in our community and I feel one of the primary causes of divorce.
💯💯💯💪🏾 correct
I feel like we hearing too much from her lately. But i guess thats the life of a tv celebrity like her
Right. Moving in silence is okay!
I guess my only thing with this is, when she was courted it still didn’t work! So maybe we need to focus on other things…. Unless that’s her man focus, I definitely feel like as an accomplished rich woman, she has options and may need to just wait til the man she wants comes her way. Her divorce is still fresh. Social media gives people access to so many people that folks don’t cherish each other
This whole situation is a great analogy for what is happening in dating market today. She WAS courted and married a man who did that but still left him. If you want to know why people dont court - its because men are not rewarded for courting ..also courting is for traditional women.. if you arnt traditional then you are asking too much. why would someone move the moon for someone thats been passed around like a blunt at a snoop concert.
DAMN THE TRUTH!!
Just so that you know. She courted him. She helped him and took care of him.
@iamnateria4016 this isn't true, she had an interview saying he courted her and treated her well and pays bills as well but she pays more due to her making more.
Envy is absolutely right!
NO HE IS NOT!
Envy has been with his wife since the 90’s . How would he possibly have a clue what goes on today?
im 48 & the men i meet still want to court... ive had brothas say i want to court & come back around when they can... & lastly it has nothing to do with money...
Interesting times man.
Bingo Jason!
CTG went back and watch old KS tapes and saw the light lol. I remembered I offered to pick a lady up for a date and I offered to take her home, she said no thanks 🤷🏾♂️ you right courting is not the same
Did you ask why she didn't want to be picked up? Some women are concerned about their safety and that's perfectly okay.
@@Dymsx86 yes that’s the reason I did bring it up, I guess a man can’t be old fashion anymore to pick you up and drop you off. I realized then the game has changed
We all have opinions on relationships but that doesn’t make them facts no matter who said it.
Im 32 with NO KIDS i always find men younger and older who court me. I dont pay for NOTHING. Its a vibe you give off and over 30 with no kids is gold dust.
You right I be 50 in a couple of months no kids being celibate for 7years now
See how it went to money. Women gets to feel special man gets nothing.
ALWAYS? how many marriage proposals you have under your belt? or was it REALLY a poundtown tour with these so called courters?
The thing is she happy not paying for anything… she I just using men for money she isn’t looking for love she is looking for a come up
@@cr5cc these chicks like to use the word "court" loosely too. Courting involves dating with a purpose of MARRIAGE. If a female tells you that they get courted by multiple men and dont ever seal the deal with ANY of those men, then that says a LOT about the female
Jason literally spoke my entire mind! No one person should feel like they are the sole prize. Both people should be a prize. Also, Tia got a divorce and came back the streets after probably close to 20 years and found out the hard way that the dating streets are extremely ghetto. There is trash everywhere. So maybe working it out with Cory might have been worth it, I don’t know what they went through. But yeah if she left him thinking she was gonna find something shiny and new, think again.
These aren’t traditional women but they wonder where all the traditional men went. Like Kevin Samuel’s said, winter is coming and women are realizing how cold them streets really are.
I'm 63. I've been divorced since 2005. My marriage lasted 18.5 years. We dated (not living together) for 4 years prior to marriage. 'Courting' is the process of getting to know a person. The current culture is 'hooking up'/having sex. Courting is when you're selective/intentional about whom you're spending your time with because they are a potential marital partner. Sex partners...not so much. I currently deal with a man who is courting me; we're in our 8th month. He's wonderful! As a matter of fact, I have not dated anyone who did not court me. I believe the Sexxy Redd era will give some interesting results; time will tell. For me; if the interaction is not respectful; I know how to entertain myself. Ms. Mowry's observation is pretty spot on. The culture has shifted. It has only made things worse.
I’m a 39 year old divorcee and this is so relatable. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Thank you! Most people have no clue what courting is based on these comments.
What benefit was there to courting/dating for 4 years before marriage if it didn't make the marriage last?
I only ask because I am in a similar situation.
Did anyone notice that person in DJ Envy's background killing that sandwich!!! 😂😅😂😅😂😅
27 year old woman here. Courting isn't doing well! lol. I've dated men who have courted me in the past so I know men can do it but most men in their 20s to early 30s (at least in Chicago, where I'm at...) don't court. I'm honestly surprised when a man DOESN"T invite me to a "smoke and chill" date because that's all these guys want to do. We live in the 3rd largest city in the country, with a plethora of exciting places we could go together besides netflix and chilling at your apartment on the first date. Like, we can have a picnic in the park, a walk through a museum, cocktails at a happy hour, brunch, etc. Like let's hang out somewhere in public for 90 minutes and keep hanging if we're both interested or part ways if either of us aren't feeling it. It's not that hard.
Exactly
Tia sounds exactly like a married woman trying to get back in the streets after a long time.... Sadly she has to find out the hard way there's nothing out there
Always say, you don't appreciate a good thing until it's gone. That's exactly what happened here. Tia wanted to graduate from marriage. So good luck going to grad school in single life.
What’s that drill beat between playing between breaks?
Gotta give it up to #TheBreakfastClub, this was a great conversation and it was really interesting to hear the perspective of 3 different men with one being of the LGBTQ community. They could have an even longer discussion on this.
People Not Being Able To Think For Themselves Killed Courting Everyone's Worried About Keeping Up With Trending Ideologies Instead Of Setting Values And Standards That Actually Work For Them And Sticking With Those Who Fit The Criteria
Women honestly we talk too much! So many women don’t even want to have their traditional roles anymore. It makes it hard to find like minded people because of the view a lot of man have on black women. It’s a lot of us still cooking cleaning and enjoying our feminine energy.
I can relate....she said it, wow
That girl in the background behind Envy tearin up that food!
Envy courted the people he scammed too😂😂.
She has a track record of leaving her husband. I would never sign up to be the next one you leave. It’s time to bunker down and enjoy being single forever.
The fact that adults are in relationships referring to themselves as prizes, male or female, is insane in itself.. you want someone to praise and worship you with the mentality that it's okay to just up and leave because you found something new is what you're carrying around..
Thanks again to Envy for having sense...
I can only speak from my experiences most women dont even give you a chance to court anymore when u try to approach them they automatically think you trying to sleep with them and your really trying to get to know them but hey thats not every woman in the world i just haven't met the right one i guess