Even if the average listener has a stereo setup and they are fairly far away from it, it’s still going to sound “mono.” Your average person is NOT sitting in a perfect equilateral triangle sweet spot to listen to all of our horrible mixes. Haha mixing in mono HELPS
I like to collapse my mix to mono to spot check. If I can create a mix where the only difference between mono and stereo is only the width but the volumes feel essentially the same, I know it will translate well.
When listen to Mono? Near all u hear in a Supermarket is in mono. When u go in a club there will be mono, EDM make extra mono mixes for big dancehalls. When u watch TV the most is in mono. The most portable radios are in mono, so the most people listen to radio on workspace or so listen in mono. The most live concerts are mixed in mono. theater audio is in mono. You should better ask when we are listening in stereo, this is more rare. Some examples. When u sit in a car u listen to stereo? When u listen music at home is it in stereo? The "problem" with stereo is u must be in the sweet spot, in the right angle and distance to the speakers (near field monitors, mid field monitors, far field monitors. for mixing you use near field speakers, did u ever ask yourself when the customors listen to near field systems? The only time i listen to near field systems is when i visit a friend in his studio with a near field system. In the past i found near field systems next to the screen of PCs...but they are no more trend.), only than it is real stereo. Many people listen to music with headphones, is this stereo? Nope. Stereo is Centre, Left Right "in front" of the listener. Headphones got the centre inside your head and left and right are 90°. Stereo got the centre before you and left and right are maximum 60° "in front". The most people no more got a classical stereo system at home. What comes closest is a 2.1 System the most use witn a PC, so satellites and a subwoofer. For TV atm soundbars are trendy or sourround systems with 4.1 or more. This systems are often weak when listen stereo music over it, ok for home cinema but bad for quality music in stereo. U say the argument with the phones no more count ebcaus ethe most smartphones are stereo today? But do the most people listen over the internal piezo speakers? Most time they use headphones...or blutooth speakers and the most are in mono. When u are mixing in front of your monitors and the head look into the centre, there u got stereo. But u only need to turn the head a bit left or rigt and the stereo field is broken and it is no more real stereo. When u sit only a tiny bit closer to one speaker as to the other, it is no more real stereo. So u can see, real stereo is more rare as the most might think.
You do realize that you can direct mono tracks to both speakers right? If you mix in stereo, and you are listening in stereo as you mix, it really is almost impossible to tell what your mix will sound like if the perfect stereo balance is compromised. If you mix in mono you can compensate for any potential loss... I've NEVER faced a situation where I was disgusted with a mix after upgrading to a more robust stereo system. The final mastered mix will either sound better or be about the same... Conversely I *HAVE* been SHOCKED at the result of playing my mix back on a system that is somewhat compromised. Mixing in mono is the best way to assure that what you've intended as the sound of your music is represented in almost ANY system.... What's more your very assertion that everyone is listening in stereo underscores my point... It's the very REASON why you should mix in mono... When someone listens in stereo, IT WON'T COMPROMISE a mix that sounds good through only one channel, because you're getting that one channel, IN ADDITION to the other channel that is well balanced. Conversely, If one of your stereo channels is compromised, you may be listening to something that is missing HALF of what you wanted to convey!!! NO GOOD!!! MIX IN MONO!!!!
In the 60s there was a lot teenagers and twens get beatles fans. And all what they was listening was in mono. From the engineering side they invested weeks for the mono mixes and only houres for the stereo mixes. Stereo systems was rare and very expensive. In the 70s stereo systems get more affortable and so they started to listen to stereo records over stereo systems...and they made strange faces and often they was dissapointed. This was not "the sound" they knowed and loved from their idols. only some years ago the recording idustry realized this and so more as one Vinyl-Boxes with only stereo mixes of the Beatles came out and was the Beatles fans loved it. Similar stories from other Bands not rare. Mono got a power stereo never can reach.
When I make dance and performance tracks I write the entire track in mono. 1.) I have a portable PA for busking, single speaker. 2.) I actually do have a 2.0 stereo setup for club speakers, but I STILL make in mono if I can... because no one is going to hear the stereo. Most normal tracks I do in stereo though.
i mixed a song in mono recently, i got it to a point where it sounded so good i forgot its still in mono. when i flipped back to stereo it totally fell apart
I am a big true mono (mooned mix on a single one-way speaker) fan, occasionally focusing the mids with a 600-3.7 K bandpass filter (12 dB), getting superfast and reliable results... So for me its more 80 % mono and 20 % stereo...but I still liked to listen to your perspective... The only thing that counts in the end is a great result
Point 3 Cons has me interested in a poll. I do my best to get all my processing to equate tracks to -12dB, even just with a trim plug, BEFORE moving any faders for balance or doing automation. Anyone else do similar? Ive found mixing to be WAY easier doing it this way, how about y'all?
Well, I do this before any processing (actually aiming for -18 dBFS RMS which, for the most material, gives peaks at -12 dBFS). That's basic gain staging, it does indeed makes life easier.
Great points and I commend you for challenging conventional lessons. I generally set a static mix with levels and panning in stereo, then I spend roughly 15 minutes EQing in mono to clean up the mix. Particularly the low end and frequencies where low end instruments cross into higher frequencies. I find mono reveals frequency build up better than stereo does. From there I flip to stereo and really don’t check mono until the end where I double check for phase issues etc. I’m actually working on a shootout between JST skybox and the Strymon bigsky for my second TH-cam channel launching next weekend. Looking forward to putting it through its paces.
strong words considering that i can buy a phonograph in 2021 and since it was mainly used in 1880´s i dont think locating and buying a mono sourced speaker in 5 years will be that hard
The point to mix in stereo and switch to mono to see if anything missing or checking levels on the mix if you can make it sound good in mono it will translate and sound good on anything I love my mixcubes it save you time and from keep going to your car or wasting cds your car sound system uses a mono source any way.
It would be foolish to mix completely in mono. It would be foolish to not check your mix in mono. Also, even if a phone has stereo speakers now, the source at a distance becomes monophonic.
Top down mixing works great if you use it right Parallel compression works great if you use it right Same with mono. Anything can ruin your mix if you use it wrong and don't have good ears, taste and judgement
OK, Miami you caught me. I have fallen victim to the hype. Now please fix the other 99 mixing mistakes I make. I'll wait. Jokes aside, it's great video with a very reasonable perspective.
Excellent vid - the one thing I guess I didn't understand was if hard panned guitars are disappearing in mono it means they're not as wide as they could be. I've been a bit obsessed lately with mono compatibility (ie, bluetooth speakers), made a few small changes that helped and it wasn't getting them wider.
Awesome! I quit a while ago mixing in mono... Because of the same reason you mentioned with the "mono" speaker. But don't mix in mono fix in mono is a great idea! Thanks man. ^^
Hi Mike, I am sorry I’ve only just seen this comment. Unfortunately the above advice isn’t accurate, with the 1st point being irrelevant to any valid technical reason why mono mixing is bad. The reason why you mix in mono is to get a greater sense of space in the mix and to make better EQ decisions. You cannot be fooled by the stereo image. By mixing in mono you will create more space, which will lead to louder masters, making frequency masking easier to combat, because you are only dealing with a mono image.
most speakers are definitely mono as who buys speakers in pairs unless theyre are monitors or computer speaker when u buy a speaker its one individual speaker... that being said i do agree with all the other points!
How can something with phase issues when checked in mono be less wider than it could be? Isn't the whole point of mid/side processing based on the sides BEING out of phase with the mids?
This is confusing. Isn’t mixing often fixing? My mixing got a lot better using mono techniques. Ali learned under Dre. I think I’ll roll with them, Kush and the many others.
Omg I just realized I have never mixed in mono. 🤭 I’ve always been told I should but don’t care to listen... Now that I think about it... I mix only on headphones too. OH GOD WHAT HAVE I DONE!? WHY AM I SUCH A REBEL!? IVE BEEN SUCH A BAD BOYYYYY!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 On a serious note, you make some very solid points. 👍
I mix in mono a lot. Majority of time I'm either checking or mixing stuff in mono and I get good results doing it. It translates better to any other system may it be mono, stereo or 5.1 for me when doing it in mono as opposted to mixing mostly in stereo. It's just a tool, like mixing in stereo is just a tool, a different set of information. You can't listen to music the same in mono like you're used to do in stereo, it requires different type of listening, it's different skill, that's why for some people it works, for others not... For example sounds that are panned to either side should be quieter than sounds that are in center when listening in mono, because hard panned sounds play only from one speaker instead of two for sounds positioned close to center, etc... Everybody uses pretty much the same tools these days, but we all get very different results, so it's not the tools as much as it is the way you are able to listen and can hear stuff that others may overlook, it's always been like that... So the conclusion is...Mix in Mono! Mix all kinds of ways, just learn to use it to your advantage, not to your detriment!
@@joeymusic I got an Altec Lansing Orbit im227 mono speaker off of ebay for $4 (+ a lot more shipping) as my poor poor man's mono computer speaker auratone. And yes, I agree with you. I need a deal on a mono speaker, and I need to find a suitable amp / switcher setup, etc. oi. I've come to the same conclusions as you, i think.
If anyone wants to get adventurous - there are two models...one im227 model has usb and it disconnects constantly if audio isn't playing and makes annoying noises, and the other has a little jack for headphone output of a computer or phone. I bought both for some reason.
U know why the auratones are so great? 1 single driver no crossover phasing issues etc.. no extreme high freqs and no lows..that makes *Focus on the mids*
Mono got a strong centre channel? Where comes the centre from when u only got one channel? The (phantom) centre is physical only possible when there are minimum two channels (stereo). Mono is like u are on the north pole and and all directions from there are south. There can be no west or east. So a centre only can be exist when u got minimum point A and point B, so centre is exaxt in beetween them. When u only got point A where is the centre than? Correct, there is no centre, only point A. U can build a centre when u got more than two points, no problem.
I watched some tut video like as mix with masters....they said mixing in mono, record in 24 bit/96 khz ...balabala... then i config my track in mono, the meter always shown stereo, haha i'm confused
So I listened to Flesh god Apocalypse - the top rated one in Spotify called 'the violation' and that track collapses In mono. So much information is lost that it has to be totally out of phase L-R? Do you not worry that when a mix has this much phase issues that it is harder to translate these mixes in different room setups? I went through all the mixes in rick beato's last video checking out the metal top ten and pretty much every song collapsed in mono. And when you switch to stereo all the mixes have these nasaly artefacts. My question to you is is the mix of 'the violation' track acceptable considering the amount if information that cancels out when mono'd? If you play the same game on the 'Damn' album they are rock solid in mono hardly loose any thing and quite frankly sounds amazing. These metal producers are all doing something weird which I would like to understand what they are using to cause this effect.
You say " its ok to check in mono time to time " oh' " don't mix in mono" oh you can mix in mono depending on the genre" but, don't mix in mono,. CONFUSING!
I have noticed alot of engineers trying to confuse people who are still learning and I figured why🤣😂the equipment barrier has been obliterated now Knowledge is more valuable and with the right info you can replace some of this engineers.. Moving the goal post another eg:atmos crap💩🤞🏽
Idk it seems a lot easier to leave things in mono and create separation in a mix in mono, but yeah since everything is going straight up the middle I don’t pan and do stereo effects until I switch it into stereo.
depending on the pan law this wouldnt work. if your volume drops 3 db or more when panned when you put it in mono that instrument will be 3db louder then when you mixed it.
U talk from phase cancellation. I ask me if all your tracks are in phase when u get those massive difference when switch beetween mono and stereo. Check it! Do not use stereo to shade your mixing issues. Phase most time no more get checked by EDM producers. They trust in that the virtual instrumenst and samples and recorded or sampled vocals will fit automaticly in phase to each other. When u ever recorded a real drum kit with real microphones than the first thing u do before start mixing is check and set the entire kit in phase. And later do it with all tracks of the song. And after we mixed with nice plugins we shopuld check the phase again. Plugins can cause phase problems because some got latency. Heavy usage of EQs, special when boosting lot frequencies can also bring phase problems.
@@cycleofficial4744 Just mix mono with Mono out enabled. There will be different EQ choices to cut through the mix. Maybe using alternate instrumental and/or vocal parts. Examine The Beatles albums who have all but two albums mixed in mono and stereo.
![ว้าว!ลุงบีมแบกทองมารับขวัญหลานกันยกบ้าน [cc] แดนแพทตี้ SS2 | EP.49 |](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Osihq1OAs-4/mqdefault.jpg)
People are listening to mono more and more with those smart speakers.
if those speakers are so smart, then why are they mono?
@@generichuman_ they are mono ,thats why
@@zavixr2311phone speakers aren't mono
@@TakeHit0 there is only one speaker in my phone
@@zavixr2311 what model are you using?
"Don't mix in Mono, *FIX* in Mono." I knew I couldn't be the only one.
there are actually mono devices that are popular these days. it's the smart speakers like google home and amazon echo or even some bluetooth speakers
Right, I mixed in stereo and then when ran it through my Bluetooth speaker it was sooo muddy
Making me question everything I believe....I like it.
Glad you enjoyed the vid man! Did any of the points from the video stick out to you?
Even if the average listener has a stereo setup and they are fairly far away from it, it’s still going to sound “mono.” Your average person is NOT sitting in a perfect equilateral triangle sweet spot to listen to all of our horrible mixes. Haha mixing in mono HELPS
I like to collapse my mix to mono to spot check. If I can create a mix where the only difference between mono and stereo is only the width but the volumes feel essentially the same, I know it will translate well.
Facts
100% on point🙊
Kush's vid on this is great. He mixes primarily in mono and his tracks absolutely slay. It's not hype by any means.
When listen to Mono? Near all u hear in a Supermarket is in mono. When u go in a club there will be mono, EDM make extra mono mixes for big dancehalls. When u watch TV the most is in mono. The most portable radios are in mono, so the most people listen to radio on workspace or so listen in mono. The most live concerts are mixed in mono. theater audio is in mono.
You should better ask when we are listening in stereo, this is more rare. Some examples. When u sit in a car u listen to stereo? When u listen music at home is it in stereo? The "problem" with stereo is u must be in the sweet spot, in the right angle and distance to the speakers (near field monitors, mid field monitors, far field monitors. for mixing you use near field speakers, did u ever ask yourself when the customors listen to near field systems? The only time i listen to near field systems is when i visit a friend in his studio with a near field system. In the past i found near field systems next to the screen of PCs...but they are no more trend.), only than it is real stereo.
Many people listen to music with headphones, is this stereo? Nope. Stereo is Centre, Left Right "in front" of the listener. Headphones got the centre inside your head and left and right are 90°. Stereo got the centre before you and left and right are maximum 60° "in front".
The most people no more got a classical stereo system at home. What comes closest is a 2.1 System the most use witn a PC, so satellites and a subwoofer. For TV atm soundbars are trendy or sourround systems with 4.1 or more. This systems are often weak when listen stereo music over it, ok for home cinema but bad for quality music in stereo.
U say the argument with the phones no more count ebcaus ethe most smartphones are stereo today? But do the most people listen over the internal piezo speakers? Most time they use headphones...or blutooth speakers and the most are in mono.
When u are mixing in front of your monitors and the head look into the centre, there u got stereo. But u only need to turn the head a bit left or rigt and the stereo field is broken and it is no more real stereo. When u sit only a tiny bit closer to one speaker as to the other, it is no more real stereo.
So u can see, real stereo is more rare as the most might think.
You do realize that you can direct mono tracks to both speakers right? If you mix in stereo, and you are listening in stereo as you mix, it really is almost impossible to tell what your mix will sound like if the perfect stereo balance is compromised. If you mix in mono you can compensate for any potential loss... I've NEVER faced a situation where I was disgusted with a mix after upgrading to a more robust stereo system. The final mastered mix will either sound better or be about the same... Conversely I *HAVE* been SHOCKED at the result of playing my mix back on a system that is somewhat compromised. Mixing in mono is the best way to assure that what you've intended as the sound of your music is represented in almost ANY system.... What's more your very assertion that everyone is listening in stereo underscores my point... It's the very REASON why you should mix in mono... When someone listens in stereo, IT WON'T COMPROMISE a mix that sounds good through only one channel, because you're getting that one channel, IN ADDITION to the other channel that is well balanced. Conversely, If one of your stereo channels is compromised, you may be listening to something that is missing HALF of what you wanted to convey!!! NO GOOD!!! MIX IN MONO!!!!
Word.
In the 60s there was a lot teenagers and twens get beatles fans. And all what they was listening was in mono. From the engineering side they invested weeks for the mono mixes and only houres for the stereo mixes. Stereo systems was rare and very expensive.
In the 70s stereo systems get more affortable and so they started to listen to stereo records over stereo systems...and they made strange faces and often they was dissapointed. This was not "the sound" they knowed and loved from their idols.
only some years ago the recording idustry realized this and so more as one Vinyl-Boxes with only stereo mixes of the Beatles came out and was the Beatles fans loved it.
Similar stories from other Bands not rare.
Mono got a power stereo never can reach.
When I make dance and performance tracks I write the entire track in mono. 1.) I have a portable PA for busking, single speaker. 2.) I actually do have a 2.0 stereo setup for club speakers, but I STILL make in mono if I can... because no one is going to hear the stereo.
Most normal tracks I do in stereo though.
i mixed a song in mono recently, i got it to a point where it sounded so good i forgot its still in mono. when i flipped back to stereo it totally fell apart
This has definitely happened to me before lol
-Miami
🤣🤣
Pan law is also a factor
I am a big true mono (mooned mix on a single one-way speaker) fan, occasionally focusing the mids with a 600-3.7 K bandpass filter (12 dB), getting superfast and reliable results... So for me its more 80 % mono and 20 % stereo...but I still liked to listen to your perspective... The only thing that counts in the end is a great result
Mono in Spanish is monkey so that made this comment 10x funnier
@@dangdrjay3011 Really?
@@dangdrjay3011 hahahahaha I'm a big as monkey xD
Point 3 Cons has me interested in a poll.
I do my best to get all my processing to equate tracks to -12dB, even just with a trim plug, BEFORE moving any faders for balance or doing automation. Anyone else do similar? Ive found mixing to be WAY easier doing it this way, how about y'all?
Well, I do this before any processing (actually aiming for -18 dBFS RMS which, for the most material, gives peaks at -12 dBFS). That's basic gain staging, it does indeed makes life easier.
Great points and I commend you for challenging conventional lessons.
I generally set a static mix with levels and panning in stereo, then I spend roughly 15 minutes EQing in mono to clean up the mix. Particularly the low end and frequencies where low end instruments cross into higher frequencies. I find mono reveals frequency build up better than stereo does.
From there I flip to stereo and really don’t check mono until the end where I double check for phase issues etc.
I’m actually working on a shootout between JST skybox and the Strymon bigsky for my second TH-cam channel launching next weekend. Looking forward to putting it through its paces.
strong words considering that i can buy a phonograph in 2021 and since it was mainly used in 1880´s i dont think locating and buying a mono sourced speaker in 5 years will be that hard
It's funny you made a video of EQ matching because I learned about it from Andrew Wade in a Nail The Mix course lol
The point to mix in stereo and switch to mono to see if anything missing or checking levels on the mix if you can make it sound good in mono it will translate and sound good on anything I love my mixcubes it save you time and from keep going to your car or wasting cds your car sound system uses a mono source any way.
It would be foolish to mix completely in mono. It would be foolish to not check your mix in mono.
Also, even if a phone has stereo speakers now, the source at a distance becomes monophonic.
Stereo sources end up being mono or almost mono in many instances. Interesting perspective though.
Ueah watched this other video where a guy was claiming that mos new phones are "stereo" now cause they have two speaker, lol.
Do whatever works for you man. MixedByAli mixes in mono and he engineered the entire To Pimp a Butterfly album.
Top down mixing works great if you use it right
Parallel compression works great if you use it right
Same with mono.
Anything can ruin your mix if you use it wrong and don't have good ears, taste and judgement
OK, Miami you caught me. I have fallen victim to the hype. Now please fix the other 99 mixing mistakes I make. I'll wait.
Jokes aside, it's great video with a very reasonable perspective.
Excellent vid - the one thing I guess I didn't understand was if hard panned guitars are disappearing in mono it means they're not as wide as they could be. I've been a bit obsessed lately with mono compatibility (ie, bluetooth speakers), made a few small changes that helped and it wasn't getting them wider.
I love this guy.
I love you too!
-Miami
Awesome!
I quit a while ago mixing in mono... Because of the same reason you mentioned with the "mono" speaker.
But don't mix in mono fix in mono is a great idea! Thanks man. ^^
You’re welcome, Mike! Honestly, I was so proud when I came up with that slogan lol
-Miami
Hi Mike, I am sorry I’ve only just seen this comment. Unfortunately the above advice isn’t accurate, with the 1st point being irrelevant to any valid technical reason why mono mixing is bad. The reason why you mix in mono is to get a greater sense of space in the mix and to make better EQ decisions. You cannot be fooled by the stereo image. By mixing in mono you will create more space, which will lead to louder masters, making frequency masking easier to combat, because you are only dealing with a mono image.
Most small bluetooth speakers are in mono. This is mostly what people use at work to listen to music.
most speakers are definitely mono as who buys speakers in pairs unless theyre are monitors or computer speaker when u buy a speaker its one individual speaker... that being said i do agree with all the other points!
How can something with phase issues when checked in mono be less wider than it could be? Isn't the whole point of mid/side processing based on the sides BEING out of phase with the mids?
Mixing in mono? Well, FUCK IT! 'Nuff said.
This is confusing. Isn’t mixing often fixing? My mixing got a lot better using mono techniques. Ali learned under Dre. I think I’ll roll with them, Kush and the many others.
Omg I just realized I have never mixed in mono. 🤭
I’ve always been told I should but don’t care to listen...
Now that I think about it...
I mix only on headphones too.
OH GOD WHAT HAVE I DONE!?
WHY AM I SUCH A REBEL!?
IVE BEEN SUCH A BAD BOYYYYY!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
On a serious note, you make some very solid points. 👍
You gonna go try it for the first time??
@@joeymusic Why yes, yes I am! Specifically for this month's NTM.
I mix in mono a lot.
Majority of time I'm either checking or mixing stuff in mono and I get good results doing it.
It translates better to any other system may it be mono, stereo or 5.1 for me when doing it in mono as opposted to mixing mostly in stereo.
It's just a tool, like mixing in stereo is just a tool, a different set of information.
You can't listen to music the same in mono like you're used to do in stereo, it requires different type of listening, it's different skill, that's why for some people it works, for others not...
For example sounds that are panned to either side should be quieter than sounds that are in center when listening in mono, because hard panned sounds play only from one speaker instead of two for sounds positioned close to center, etc...
Everybody uses pretty much the same tools these days, but we all get very different results, so it's not the tools as much as it is the way you are able to listen and can hear stuff that others may overlook, it's always been like that...
So the conclusion is...Mix in Mono!
Mix all kinds of ways, just learn to use it to your advantage, not to your detriment!
The first video on this channel that didn't convince me.
Would you have preferred some audio examples? I can definitely address this again in the future😀
-Miami
@@joeymusic that would be helpful. Especially for "when you switch over to stereo, your levels gonna be all over the place"
Im planing to Invest on a Auratone c5a😅
now i get it..so i should do it both..
I still prefer to check it in mono and back to stereo.
Totally agree! Fix I’m mono, don’t mix in mono🙂
I listen to music in stores while shopping. Those gotta be single mono speakers on the ceilings of safeway and goodwill?
This is true! Those places will have a mono setup at times. Speaking of which, I’ll keep my eyes open at goodwill for an avantone mono speaker 😂
@@joeymusic I got an Altec Lansing Orbit im227 mono speaker off of ebay for $4 (+ a lot more shipping) as my poor poor man's mono computer speaker auratone.
And yes, I agree with you. I need a deal on a mono speaker, and I need to find a suitable amp / switcher setup, etc. oi.
I've come to the same conclusions as you, i think.
If anyone wants to get adventurous - there are two models...one im227 model has usb and it disconnects constantly if audio isn't playing and makes annoying noises, and the other has a little jack for headphone output of a computer or phone. I bought both for some reason.
this is a really good channel
Excellent points
You make some interesting points🤔
Good video
A lot of people do listen to music from their phones or from shitty speakers lmao. Most music listeners live in the global south buddy.
Good stuff..Subbed!
U know why the auratones are so great? 1 single driver no crossover phasing issues etc.. no extreme high freqs and no lows..that makes *Focus on the mids*
LOL. Very good. Thanks
CLA of all people have never actually mixed in mono, just in case you guys were wondering.
Also Nolly doesn't seem to be interested in doing so.
Well ya...it’s for fixing.
My jbl charge 4 is mono
Hence, "don't mix in mono" , "check your mix in mono" 🙌
Mono got a strong centre channel? Where comes the centre from when u only got one channel?
The (phantom) centre is physical only possible when there are minimum two channels (stereo).
Mono is like u are on the north pole and and all directions from there are south. There can be no west or east. So a centre only can be exist when u got minimum point A and point B, so centre is exaxt in beetween them. When u only got point A where is the centre than? Correct, there is no centre, only point A. U can build a centre when u got more than two points, no problem.
I watched some tut video like as mix with masters....they said mixing in mono, record in 24 bit/96 khz ...balabala... then i config my track in mono, the meter always shown stereo, haha i'm confused
Mixing in mono means to LISTEN to your mix in mono - such that you’ll make different decisions because of what you’re hearing.
So I listened to Flesh god Apocalypse - the top rated one in Spotify called 'the violation' and that track collapses In mono. So much information is lost that it has to be totally out of phase L-R? Do you not worry that when a mix has this much phase issues that it is harder to translate these mixes in different room setups?
I went through all the mixes in rick beato's last video checking out the metal top ten and pretty much every song collapsed in mono. And when you switch to stereo all the mixes have these nasaly artefacts.
My question to you is
is the mix of 'the violation' track acceptable considering the amount if information that cancels out when mono'd?
If you play the same game on the 'Damn' album they are rock solid in mono hardly loose any thing and quite frankly sounds amazing.
These metal producers are all doing something weird which I would like to understand what they are using to cause this effect.
💘
You say " its ok to check in mono time to time " oh' " don't mix in mono" oh you can mix in mono depending on the genre" but, don't mix in mono,. CONFUSING!
I have noticed alot of engineers trying to confuse people who are still learning and I figured why🤣😂the equipment barrier has been obliterated now Knowledge is more valuable and with the right info you can replace some of this engineers.. Moving the goal post another eg:atmos crap💩🤞🏽
Idk it seems a lot easier to leave things in mono and create separation in a mix in mono, but yeah since everything is going straight up the middle I don’t pan and do stereo effects until I switch it into stereo.
depending on the pan law this wouldnt work. if your volume drops 3 db or more when panned when you put it in mono that instrument will be 3db louder then when you mixed it.
U talk from phase cancellation. I ask me if all your tracks are in phase when u get those massive difference when switch beetween mono and stereo. Check it!
Do not use stereo to shade your mixing issues.
Phase most time no more get checked by EDM producers. They trust in that the virtual instrumenst and samples and recorded or sampled vocals will fit automaticly in phase to each other. When u ever recorded a real drum kit with real microphones than the first thing u do before start mixing is check and set the entire kit in phase. And later do it with all tracks of the song.
And after we mixed with nice plugins we shopuld check the phase again. Plugins can cause phase problems because some got latency. Heavy usage of EQs, special when boosting lot frequencies can also bring phase problems.
I don’t mix in mono I only use it to check eq and panning… mixing in mono and relying on it is stupid… translation is the goal of it
Maybe it's time to make separate mono mixes like in the 60s...
Can you please explain the exact process ? Sounds interesting. Thank You !
@@cycleofficial4744 Just mix mono with Mono out enabled. There will be different EQ choices to cut through the mix. Maybe using alternate instrumental and/or vocal parts. Examine The Beatles albums who have all but two albums mixed in mono and stereo.
@@ButcherGrindslamso does that simply mean creating a separate mono mix and a separate stereo mix for a song / an album ?
Never had problems mixing in Mono.
lets be real, nobodys gonna hear your mixes in stereo either
🤣
best way to mix is to not
I felt that
Love you