After seeing your review, I went out and picked up some E6000 Premium to lock in the wheel wells on my 1600 Spitfire before maiden. Been using Gorilla Glue Clear/White for foam to foam and it has kept my EPO foam planes together for years even with my attempts at sudden disassembly by ground/tree, great product, although it is a little more rigid and I wanted something with more elasticity. I came across another product, E6000+, and decided to pick that up along with some Gorilla clear grip for scientific purposes. I'm really impressed at how well the E6000+ worked for foam hinges as it sort of self-levels and flows into the V grooves leaving a nice film over the area. It does not have any noticeable smell and can be tooled/smoothed into place without bunching/boogering up like the others do.
Will these videos are so useful man. Glad you are doing them...I've learned a lot. Interesting on the Gorilla white. What is the weight vs light Spackle? I'd also be curious how it sands and takes paint. Seems there are a lot of really good options for different jobs. Awesome video bro!
Always enjoy making these videos Adam. I usually learn more than any of my viewers, for sure. I will dig into this GG White and see how well I can repair a smashed up plane.. Use Spackle on one part and this glue on the other.. Sounds like more quality content.. Thanks buddy...
Another excellent video on glue to foam comparisons! Nice work Sir! Much appreciate your work to provide us options for repairing our softies.. I think for hinge repair on EPO only.. the GG clear tubes seem to be better. Have you ever tried”Hold the Foam”?? I’ve been told for pinch hinges that works great as a preventative measure on potential splits.
Hmmm.. Looks like a glue test #4 is in the making.. Great idea Ruby.. From my experience, FoamTac, Welders, UHU Por, and Foam2Foam are solid performers for this quick field fix.. Of course hot glue and CA will work too.
You know.. Thats a good idea... I've tested enough glues and have a few favorites for sure.. Let me think about that... Thanks for watching and commenting.
As you said, there's no "one glue" for RC foam constructions and repairs, so at no extra charge I will add a few observations about glue for RC foams which I don't think are so well known. First, and most importantly, is the utter supremacy of Beacon Quick Grip on EPP foam. It destroys EPS like nothing else and even attacks EPO (though possibly not too much if you dry out the solvent ASAP), but it can have an EPP airframe back in the air in under 5 minutes if you pull it apart a few times before the final press together. This is a world apart from other rubber cements like E6000 and Gorilla Clear Grip which need many hours of waiting. I have Quick Grip hinges that are highly flexible after more than 10 years, and I've never seen it go crispy. Building EPP with Quick Grip is wonderful for speed, weight, and the quality of the finished plane but the fast drying can be its own problem and I end up with it under my fingernails for days. Will last for many years after opening the tube UHU Por is expensive and becomes crispy over time, but it's lovely to work with and you don't have to worry about hurting any foam I've found. The expense is offset by the spectacular shelf life which is even better than Quick Grip They don't even bother sealing the nozzle at the factory, and my 15 year old tube flows like new. Amazing. Welder's goes crispy and yellows over time. I've found no reason to ever use this one - something else is always better for foam planes. The only styrene-safe (EPS foam) glue I've found with long term flexibility is a generic chinese stuff in a small white tube. It's the color of cola so it makes white foam look dingy, but dirt cheap and really works without harming any foam I've found. I haven't really compared it to other foam safe glues available at Walmart because it's been good enough for me. If you need to fill in missing chunks of EPS, you can mix a little white glue with polyurethane glue and it will foam up a lot in a uniform consistency and set up pretty quickly. The final foam is ugly but it does the trick.
Great insights.. Appreciate the info.. I'll play around with the Beacon Quick Grip. I've played with Gorilla Glue Clear Grip that seems similar to what you described as the Beacon Quick Grip. I'll need to test some out. So many glues, so little time to test them all..
I just use the Gorilla mini hot glue gun for everything. I use the low temp setting and wait 8 min for it to heat up, and then fire away. I find that it's industrial strength, and safe for all foamy planes!
Hot glue is great for some applications. I like the option for several adhesives depending on the job at hand. On a previous build/repair I used Hot glue, E6000 and foamtac. All worked perfect for their intended purpose. Kinda like drywall screws.. They are awesome and work great, but not for everything.. - Will
After watching this to try and find out the best way to fix my E-flite valiant 1.3. I tried the E6000 on my 1st plane wreck. It melts a little too much foam. My plane isn’t going to break in the same spots again but it’s sunken in and ugly in those areas. Flys nice still. If they were simple breaks and I could get it together quickly I would have tried the hot glue. Still very helpful thanks!
I use E6000 VERY sparingly. I add a dab, then use a brush to spread the light coat. If it’s oozing out the sides, I’d say too much is applied and you’ll get a noticeable scar. I learned the hard way on an A10😀
@Steffenrc one thing I noticed with these type of videos is I haven’t seen anyone flying a plane after it has been repaired with glue, would be cool to add to the channel
And here also very important tips! I have done all the mentioned errors I suppose and learned a bit the hard way. I have a PU glue also, that gave me a friend last year. Him saying "this is the best for foam". But as he gifted me his crashed and repaired V900 I thought that that glue does not bond as good as E8000. But what is really cool is for filling. Because when crashing an EDF many time the fuse is being compressed and if glueing ttogether compressing the parts, the nose will look not centered but down. So that glue would be cool to fill the gap of compressed foam of one side without needing to fill with E6000 (and popping foam) or filling with heavy material like hot glue. Because the filler probably does not add any strength. I will use that this time on my Viper :( :P The tips for clamping are super also! The one missing is tape. I use like paper masking tape. Because one time I needed compression around the fuselage or on the wings without the possibility to use weights or something else. I don´t know what more, but here are a lot of good infos!!
Thanks... I haven't had great results with some of the glue putty out there. Maybe I used it incorrectly.. For big holes, I've inserted a custom fit piece of EPO foam from a stash of busted planes, then apply lightweight drywall spackle. But now, I'm going to use some of this Gorilla Glue white and see if thats a better option.
All the years ive been repairing foam airplanes i still prefer hot glue and clear epoxy because those glues allow some flex and give and that is alot easier and forgiving on the airf rame, ive tried the CA type glues and they are very hard and tend to create a fracture line on the edge of the glue area everytime.Not a fan of it at all. i found that E-6OOO can soften and melt some foam planes foam
So many options for sure.. I'll use several adhesives to repair different things. E6000 is my go to for serious repairs on EPO and EPP. You gotta use it sparingly.
Thanks for the comment. Tape across the wings? It might help, but I'd try to add some reinforcing with a bamboo skewer or Carbon Fiber rod inserted and glued into the two broken parts. You might want to check out some of my repair videos on my channel.
You need to take care with PU glues if they are Di-Isocyanates. They can cause respiratory diseases when contact to skin or inhalating... just saying. Here in Germany you need to take a short course and get a certificate to use them for working. Not for private uses. But that cannot be bad to know :)
Wow these vids gave me a better idea of what i need. U should make a video for mounting servos and recievers to foam o have a turbo timber evolution and need to swap servos and reciever to new fuselage any ideas will help thx love the vids
Great video Will, I wonder if that Gorilla Clear Grip is the same as the Gorilla Clear Glue I’ve only ever used to glue foam back together. It comes in the same size bottle as the Gorilla White Glue. Can’t remember who’s channel or comment recommended to use it that I first saw, but it’s never failed me, you can fill holes with it, and it’s stronger than the surrounding unbroken foam, it’s cheap (I think?) and easy to find, Walmart etc. As a side note I usually slightly wet the foam being glued with water and a q-tip or just lick it first (ensue foam licker jokes..!! 🤣), again probably started doing that as it was mentioned by someone else when I first started out flying/smashing up RC planes. I bought a tube of Foam Tac once, still never opened it..!!
Well, well, well.. We have another Foam Licker in out midsts.. :-). So, Gorilla Glue clear grip is different that the regular GG Clear. I've used both and the Clear Grip was a better glue for most applications. (Not UMX EPS thought). I've been experimenting with the GG White Poly glue with its foaming action. Trying to find the best application for it. Keep in mind, many of my repairs and builds I'm using several glues for difference reasons. CA, Hotglue, foamtac and E6000 are all very different, but work great as seperate tools on the same built/repair...
Hi Steffen so for landing gear you'd definitely go for e6000 over gorilla white? Would the gorills white work well for landing gear too as it expands into foam? Or is e6000 a lot stronger? I ripped gear out of timber x EPO. Cheers
Great question.. (sorry about your TimberX...). The Gorilla White is pretty good stuff and if I was missing chunks of foam, I'd maybe use it. That said, I have a lot more experience with E6000 and find its outstanding for these structural repairs. Use it sparingly and lightly brush it on both surfaces... Good luck. Will
White gorilla expands 3 to 4 times its amount, so you have to tape it so it doesnt spread apart , and tape the seam to make the glue expand wear you want it to, dries in 15 to 20 min.
Hi ...thnx for the reply. I.m a beginner and B4 my first flight try , I was hoping to reinforce my small kootai plane before I fly it! Thnx again. Worried I.m gonna kill it on Day 1.
Mark, Crashing happens. Take a look at my Beginner series videos too. (in a playlist for beginners). Just make sure the weather and location are well suited for the flight. Have fun, fly, crash, repair and do it all over again. Its a wonderful hobby, but the learning curve is rough. Find a flying coach if you can.. Good luck. Will
@@SteffenRC nice video and happy to know the best glue for foam, and i do love the RC plane as well. and i use the hot glue for my poly foam rc plane ( fast dry and strong enough but the weight is heaviest then others ) Hot glue is easy to find than UHU por or white Gorilla glue at our place now days
@@SteffenRC Yes, very addictive..quit smoking ciggy and buy a foamy birdy, then another, and another..dammit I can quit any time Man..ok deep breaths.🤪🤪🤪
More good info! Thanks for sharing these additional glues. Gorilla Glue White seems like one of the best new options.
Thanks buddy. GG Wht has its purpose for sure. I'll try it out on the next repair...
Who knew a video on glue could be so interesting!
IKR….
I also like the small tubes of foam tack. Thanks for your time making videos
Appreciate the comments. Helps me stay motivated
After seeing your review, I went out and picked up some E6000 Premium to lock in the wheel wells on my 1600 Spitfire before maiden. Been using Gorilla Glue Clear/White for foam to foam and it has kept my EPO foam planes together for years even with my attempts at sudden disassembly by ground/tree, great product, although it is a little more rigid and I wanted something with more elasticity. I came across another product, E6000+, and decided to pick that up along with some Gorilla clear grip for scientific purposes.
I'm really impressed at how well the E6000+ worked for foam hinges as it sort of self-levels and flows into the V grooves leaving a nice film over the area. It does not have any noticeable smell and can be tooled/smoothed into place without bunching/boogering up like the others do.
Hmmmm.. Might need to try that one.. Thanks for the tip...
Will these videos are so useful man. Glad you are doing them...I've learned a lot. Interesting on the Gorilla white. What is the weight vs light Spackle? I'd also be curious how it sands and takes paint. Seems there are a lot of really good options for different jobs. Awesome video bro!
Always enjoy making these videos Adam. I usually learn more than any of my viewers, for sure. I will dig into this GG White and see how well I can repair a smashed up plane.. Use Spackle on one part and this glue on the other.. Sounds like more quality content.. Thanks buddy...
Another excellent video on glue to foam comparisons! Nice work Sir! Much appreciate your work to provide us options for repairing our softies.. I think for hinge repair on EPO only.. the GG clear tubes seem to be better. Have you ever tried”Hold the Foam”?? I’ve been told for pinch hinges that works great as a preventative measure on potential splits.
Thanks I appreciate the comments. Haven’t tried Hold the Foam, but probably need to check it out due to the cool name 😀
Will what a great video. Invaluable info there. Good going🇬🇧👍🏻
Thanks Dave.. You know I like my glues...
Be interesting to see a 1 hour "at the field" recommended glue. Gorilla glue contact cement if you let tack works quick
Hmmm.. Looks like a glue test #4 is in the making.. Great idea Ruby.. From my experience, FoamTac, Welders, UHU Por, and Foam2Foam are solid performers for this quick field fix.. Of course hot glue and CA will work too.
Another great test!
Would be great if you posted the cumulative results in a spreadsheet somewhere 🙂
You know.. Thats a good idea... I've tested enough glues and have a few favorites for sure.. Let me think about that... Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@SteffenRC Seriously - you're very methodical and cover it well (ie foam types, butt joint vs others, etc) - would be a great community resource!
As you said, there's no "one glue" for RC foam constructions and repairs, so at no extra charge I will add a few observations about glue for RC foams which I don't think are so well known.
First, and most importantly, is the utter supremacy of Beacon Quick Grip on EPP foam. It destroys EPS like nothing else and even attacks EPO (though possibly not too much if you dry out the solvent ASAP), but it can have an EPP airframe back in the air in under 5 minutes if you pull it apart a few times before the final press together. This is a world apart from other rubber cements like E6000 and Gorilla Clear Grip which need many hours of waiting. I have Quick Grip hinges that are highly flexible after more than 10 years, and I've never seen it go crispy. Building EPP with Quick Grip is wonderful for speed, weight, and the quality of the finished plane but the fast drying can be its own problem and I end up with it under my fingernails for days. Will last for many years after opening the tube
UHU Por is expensive and becomes crispy over time, but it's lovely to work with and you don't have to worry about hurting any foam I've found. The expense is offset by the spectacular shelf life which is even better than Quick Grip They don't even bother sealing the nozzle at the factory, and my 15 year old tube flows like new. Amazing.
Welder's goes crispy and yellows over time. I've found no reason to ever use this one - something else is always better for foam planes.
The only styrene-safe (EPS foam) glue I've found with long term flexibility is a generic chinese stuff in a small white tube. It's the color of cola so it makes white foam look dingy, but dirt cheap and really works without harming any foam I've found. I haven't really compared it to other foam safe glues available at Walmart because it's been good enough for me.
If you need to fill in missing chunks of EPS, you can mix a little white glue with polyurethane glue and it will foam up a lot in a uniform consistency and set up pretty quickly. The final foam is ugly but it does the trick.
Great insights.. Appreciate the info.. I'll play around with the Beacon Quick Grip. I've played with Gorilla Glue Clear Grip that seems similar to what you described as the Beacon Quick Grip. I'll need to test some out. So many glues, so little time to test them all..
Thnx so much. Will do. Fingers, toes crossed. Thnx again. Great channel. 👌
I just use the Gorilla mini hot glue gun for everything. I use the low temp setting and wait 8 min for it to heat up, and then fire away. I find that it's industrial strength, and safe for all foamy planes!
Hot glue is great for some applications. I like the option for several adhesives depending on the job at hand. On a previous build/repair I used Hot glue, E6000 and foamtac. All worked perfect for their intended purpose. Kinda like drywall screws.. They are awesome and work great, but not for everything.. - Will
What is the working time for assembly of pieces??
My Favorite go to glue is still the WELDER brand glue. Wondering why it wasn't in the lineup.
Welders is good.. This is the 3rd glue test I’ve done. Checkout my 2nd glue test and you’ll see Welders in the line up..
After watching this to try and find out the best way to fix my E-flite valiant 1.3. I tried the E6000 on my 1st plane wreck. It melts a little too much foam. My plane isn’t going to break in the same spots again but it’s sunken in and ugly in those areas. Flys nice still.
If they were simple breaks and I could get it together quickly I would have tried the hot glue.
Still very helpful thanks!
I use E6000 VERY sparingly. I add a dab, then use a brush to spread the light coat. If it’s oozing out the sides, I’d say too much is applied and you’ll get a noticeable scar. I learned the hard way on an A10😀
Love this test! Great video man, I’m definitely going to add GG to my glues stack! 😊
Yep, you get it... Its great to have several glues in the tool box.. So many options.. Thanks for watching and commenting.. Will
@Steffenrc one thing I noticed with these type of videos is I haven’t seen anyone flying a plane after it has been repaired with glue, would be cool to add to the channel
Checkout my video of my destroyed FMS Tigercat. I show the rebuild and have a second part where I fly it.
@@SteffenRC sweet! will do right now! Do you think e6000 is still the best?
@@ZTLifts E6000 is my go to for most repairs. That said. Foam2 Foam, welded and Foamtac are still used..
And here also very important tips! I have done all the mentioned errors I suppose and learned a bit the hard way. I have a PU glue also, that gave me a friend last year. Him saying "this is the best for foam". But as he gifted me his crashed and repaired V900 I thought that that glue does not bond as good as E8000. But what is really cool is for filling. Because when crashing an EDF many time the fuse is being compressed and if glueing ttogether compressing the parts, the nose will look not centered but down. So that glue would be cool to fill the gap of compressed foam of one side without needing to fill with E6000 (and popping foam) or filling with heavy material like hot glue. Because the filler probably does not add any strength. I will use that this time on my Viper :( :P The tips for clamping are super also! The one missing is tape. I use like paper masking tape. Because one time I needed compression around the fuselage or on the wings without the possibility to use weights or something else. I don´t know what more, but here are a lot of good infos!!
some manufacturers use like a silicone to glue. Not as strong as E6000-8000 glues!
Awesome glue test, thanks for this info, any suggestions on RC foam putty?
Thanks... I haven't had great results with some of the glue putty out there. Maybe I used it incorrectly.. For big holes, I've inserted a custom fit piece of EPO foam from a stash of busted planes, then apply lightweight drywall spackle. But now, I'm going to use some of this Gorilla Glue white and see if thats a better option.
All the years ive been repairing foam airplanes i still prefer hot glue and clear epoxy because those glues allow some flex and give and that is alot easier and forgiving on the airf rame, ive tried the CA type glues and they are very hard and tend to create a fracture line on the edge of the glue area everytime.Not a fan of it at all. i found that E-6OOO can soften and melt some foam planes foam
So many options for sure.. I'll use several adhesives to repair different things. E6000 is my go to for serious repairs on EPO and EPP. You gotta use it sparingly.
I use 5-minute epoxy on firewalls landing gear or structural important etc. And foam safe CA glue for fast repairs and sometimes hot glue
So many options. Use what works.. Thanks for watching..
Gotta give "Weld Bond" multi-surface a go i find it works very nice
Sure are a lot of quality adhesives out there.. Might be time to make a 4th video on this topic. Thanks...
Hi fella,great channel. Is it worth sticking some tape across my wings to help reinforce them when i crash my plane( cheap jet)? Beginner here ...
Thanks for the comment. Tape across the wings? It might help, but I'd try to add some reinforcing with a bamboo skewer or Carbon Fiber rod inserted and glued into the two broken parts. You might want to check out some of my repair videos on my channel.
You need to take care with PU glues if they are Di-Isocyanates. They can cause respiratory diseases when contact to skin or inhalating... just saying. Here in Germany you need to take a short course and get a certificate to use them for working. Not for private uses. But that cannot be bad to know :)
Good to know.. Thanks.
Wow these vids gave me a better idea of what i need. U should make a video for mounting servos and recievers to foam o have a turbo timber evolution and need to swap servos and reciever to new fuselage any ideas will help thx love the vids
Good idea. I'll add that to my list of VIDEOS IN THE WORKS... Thanks.. Will
Great video Will, I wonder if that Gorilla Clear Grip is the same as the Gorilla Clear Glue I’ve only ever used to glue foam back together. It comes in the same size bottle as the Gorilla White Glue. Can’t remember who’s channel or comment recommended to use it that I first saw, but it’s never failed me, you can fill holes with it, and it’s stronger than the surrounding unbroken foam, it’s cheap (I think?) and easy to find, Walmart etc. As a side note I usually slightly wet the foam being glued with water and a q-tip or just lick it first (ensue foam licker jokes..!! 🤣), again probably started doing that as it was mentioned by someone else when I first started out flying/smashing up RC planes. I bought a tube of Foam Tac once, still never opened it..!!
Well, well, well.. We have another Foam Licker in out midsts.. :-). So, Gorilla Glue clear grip is different that the regular GG Clear. I've used both and the Clear Grip was a better glue for most applications. (Not UMX EPS thought). I've been experimenting with the GG White Poly glue with its foaming action. Trying to find the best application for it. Keep in mind, many of my repairs and builds I'm using several glues for difference reasons. CA, Hotglue, foamtac and E6000 are all very different, but work great as seperate tools on the same built/repair...
I’ll definitely be picking up some of the GG Clear Grip for future use, thanks again Will.
Hi Steffen so for landing gear you'd definitely go for e6000 over gorilla white? Would the gorills white work well for landing gear too as it expands into foam? Or is e6000 a lot stronger? I ripped gear out of timber x EPO. Cheers
Great question.. (sorry about your TimberX...). The Gorilla White is pretty good stuff and if I was missing chunks of foam, I'd maybe use it. That said, I have a lot more experience with E6000 and find its outstanding for these structural repairs. Use it sparingly and lightly brush it on both surfaces... Good luck. Will
@@SteffenRC great thanks very much
White gorilla expands 3 to 4 times its amount, so you have to tape it so it doesnt spread apart , and tape the seam to make the glue expand wear you want it to, dries in 15 to 20 min.
I need to play with it a bit more. I can see there are some very good applications for it. Thanks Will
Hi ...thnx for the reply. I.m a beginner and B4 my first flight try , I was hoping to reinforce my small kootai plane before I fly it! Thnx again. Worried I.m gonna kill it on Day 1.
Mark, Crashing happens. Take a look at my Beginner series videos too. (in a playlist for beginners). Just make sure the weather and location are well suited for the flight. Have fun, fly, crash, repair and do it all over again. Its a wonderful hobby, but the learning curve is rough. Find a flying coach if you can.. Good luck. Will
Also super!! 👍🏼
Thanks! 😀
Have any of you guys tried B-7000? I friend gave me several small tubes but I've been afrais to use it.
Nope.. Give it a try on a sample EPO and EPS and let us know.
Let me guess the plane type, was it Twin otter ?
Yep.. I pulled if from the trashcan at the field.. Makes for great video props...
@@SteffenRC nice video and happy to know the best glue for foam, and i do love the RC plane as well.
and i use the hot glue for my poly foam rc plane ( fast dry and strong enough but the weight is heaviest then others )
Hot glue is easy to find than UHU por or white Gorilla glue at our place now days
As long as it doesn't melt the foam then its ok.
Lots of good options for our hobby..
@@SteffenRC Yes, very addictive..quit smoking ciggy and buy a foamy birdy, then another, and another..dammit I can quit any time Man..ok deep breaths.🤪🤪🤪
My foam tac eats eps....
Not sure how that’s happening. I’ve used foamtac for years without any issues. Very strange. I wonder if they changed their formula
I agree. I am not sure but it definitely ate my EPS foamy.
@@bigeclipse718 is it regular Foamtac. Or like Foamtac grip? Or another special formula
@SteffenRC foam tac. Same small tube's you shared in the video