Soft Dramatic vs Soft Natural and being MEMORABLE

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ธ.ค. 2018
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  • @jankchic91
    @jankchic91 5 ปีที่แล้ว +604

    An interesting video idea is showing how celebrities' (or IG models) have had their body type preferences distorted through plastic surgery. Like when Aly Art talks of how Romantics/Gamines might feel insecure about the fleshiness of their cheeks but if they were to remove it, it would age them or make them look too dry. Or maybe dramatics might want get lip injections and how it would make their face look swollen/"fake", etc. Basically, the potential insecurities of each given body type and how their way of compensating for it might take away from their beauty imbedded in their body types.

    • @margaritap.9459
      @margaritap.9459 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      I second that - such an amazing idea!

    • @jankchic91
      @jankchic91 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mishynaofficial Um. Okay.

    • @sadypack
      @sadypack 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What video was that?? I'd like to check it out

    • @polja2543
      @polja2543 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I Loved that comment from aly as well

    • @aeterna581
      @aeterna581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well, Jennifer Connelly or Demi Moore look much better with rhinoplastic than with their natural noses. Maybe because they both became more dramatic classic than they were before. Now they are shining examples of DC. Don't forget, that Kibby said its impossible to change your type.
      I guess this is also true for Keyra Knightley, Natalie Portman, Megan Fox with their rhinoplastic and becoming more look like their types (d, g, tr). But their nose changing were minimal (compare to Connelly and Moore).
      And what about other examples? Scarlett Johansson, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Winona Ryder? They are: sn (or r), sn (or sd), sg.

  • @secretalias2264
    @secretalias2264 5 ปีที่แล้ว +386

    lots of indian traditional clothes and hair really suit soft natural so it makes sense that someone like aishwarya would be a beauty icon there.

    • @aayushivasnik
      @aayushivasnik 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Yeah. Especially when she was working in movies the clothes and hair/makeup was very soft natural

    • @sahtification
      @sahtification 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Great observation

    • @danaso2567
      @danaso2567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yes, but she was really appreciated worldwide for her beauty

    • @michellemarie9526
      @michellemarie9526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      That's so interesting. I'm not Indian but people sometimes have thought that I was (I'm Eastern European)! I am a pure soft natural, and drapey clothes look so perfect on me.

    • @parvathisudheesh9820
      @parvathisudheesh9820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      She is Miss World not only a beauty icon in India

  • @itsnemosoul8398
    @itsnemosoul8398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    I went through all the fashion phases. People always told me I was curvy and I went for old hollywood/Marilyn Fashion but it looked kind of weird on me because I'm a lot more blunt. Coming out of that phase I tried boho fashion and loved it but I kind of grew out of it and wanted to be more "grown up and professional" as it fits with my career. I thought I was a soft classic but straight cuts and stiff fabrics make me look so weird and I only realized this when I couldn't figure out my actual Kibbe type for years. Realizing that I'm a soft natural was a game changer. I don't need to be super "flower power" to have flowy, uneven fabrics. Embracing my Yin and Yan feels so good. Making my hair go wild and free with blonde highlights, not trying to give my soft droopy eyes sleek cat winged eyleiner, not trying to push my boobs, embracing my soft lips but sharp nose with lots of flesh (My ex called it ogre nose *middle finger*) I want to find style and chicness in my asymmetry and unevenness. I try to go for Serena from Gossip Girl with a bit more girly (Blake Lively is the queen of naturals) and it's so much fun and works for me. Yes to my small boobs. Yes to my big ass. Yes to my big fleshy nose. Yes to hooded eyes. Yes to wavy hair. Yes to my small waist. Yes to my high cheekbones, fleshy cheeks and slim Jawline. Yes to me

    • @anushareddy6145
      @anushareddy6145 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Reading this has been so clarifying that I am definitely SN too

    • @itsnemosoul8398
      @itsnemosoul8398 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@anushareddy6145 I'm actually a Soft Dramatic 😭😭😭
      I found out months later. Sorry girl.

    • @anushareddy6145
      @anushareddy6145 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@itsnemosoul8398 I'm glad you figured it out! I think I'm still SN. Curve needs accomodation way more than vertical, I can't do outfits without waist definition etc.

  • @sattvadevi
    @sattvadevi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +206

    Dear Merriam, please make a video on how to recognize the different types "through" overweight! You have one on how the types don't change if you gain or loose weight, but as a beginner, how do I see my type "through the overweight" in the first place? That would also be a great training for all of us! Thank you, I love your videos!

    • @mjade1673
      @mjade1673 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      💞💞💞💞💞💞💞👌🙏😇💪

    • @mjade1673
      @mjade1673 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Agree! I have thought of this but have been always forgetting to request. 👏👏👏👏

    • @PamHoshi
      @PamHoshi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep! I need that.

    • @taprgurl
      @taprgurl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There’s a video where she discusses focusing on the facial features, vertical line, arm/leg length, and hand shape because those don’t change as much with weight. Another video discusses trying on dresses of the different body types if you’re stuck. Good luck in your search! 😘

    • @cocoacoolness
      @cocoacoolness 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes i was just wondering how you would be able to tell the difference between dramatic and soft dramatic if they are both overweight

  • @shirlecheer
    @shirlecheer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    I am a soft dramatic when I go to work and wear my hair in a curly regular ponytail ( wash and go look but in a ponytail). My co-workers always tell me; I would look better if I did my hair professionally. I would said, "I did do my hair" . I would get annoyed. So, when I do get glamor up people and co- worker are like, "wow". I like being SD sometime, but it is like you have to be glamorous all the time, if not people will question you.

    • @edennis8578
      @edennis8578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I've seen simple ponytails look very glamorous; they were not messy ponytails, however, but slicked back on the head very neatly. When my hair was long, I either wore a neat ponytail, a French braid, or a quick and neat French twist most of the time. A messy hairdo just isn't suitable for most Soft Dramatics because it clashes with the rest of our vibe or essence. Even if we don't see anything wrong with it, other people are disturbed by the contradiction.

    • @starfishinasandstorm4152
      @starfishinasandstorm4152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Ugh I’m with you, I haven’t found any way out of it haha, we look really messy when we don’t dress up 😭. I have a natural friend who looks amazing in sweat pants and a dramatic friend who literally looks ill if she wears the same thing. It’s so real and annoying!!

    • @AdrienneJung.M
      @AdrienneJung.M 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I feel the same way! Its nice to be noticed (SDs have serious stage presence) but that adds a layer of pressure to be more polished because we dont blend in.

    • @drauglynn
      @drauglynn ปีที่แล้ว +6

      As a SD I think choosing a side pony tail helps it

    • @7goldglamour777
      @7goldglamour777 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@drauglynn that's what I try to do. It's a bit of an unusual look but it fits SD better than a ponytail in the back.

  • @halucasan
    @halucasan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The more I dig into Kibbe’s theories the less sense they make. So I checked the Soft Natural celebrities and I can’t see what those ladies have in common, some are perfect hourglasses with long limbs and square jaws (Sandra Bullock, Hellen Mirren), some are hourglass with quite short limbs and softer facial features (Scarlett Johansson, Kat Dennings, Aishawrya Rei), some are gamine like ladies with not much curves and big heads (Goldie Hawn, Jane Fonda). And there is Renée Zellweger with very different body and face to all of other ladies and some sources claim that singer Pink is SN and she is short limbed with zero curves. I can’t see any common vibe at all just very random celebrity list.

    • @Yazon_Off
      @Yazon_Off 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think is more about the vibe coming out of the person , I can relate to it bc I'm soft dramatic all my life people told me I have the diva vibes and look better in majestic grand clothing , when I wear natural and less glamourous I look blah out of Character. I look quite like chloe morello twin with narrower sharper jaw tall and more of Bellucci body . Chloe looks phenomenal with red lips or diva looks and average in natural soft look I relate to her

  • @windylue6206
    @windylue6206 5 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    That was very useful for me because when I didn't know about Kibbe yet, I used to buy all kinds of Soft Natural clothing because I thought I was similar to the models in terms of a soft face, and then it turned out that those clothes often looked 'undone' on me, like I was hiding my lines more than emphasizing them. Now that I know I'm a Soft Dramatic, it all makes sense and I always pay attention to the relative length and width of the clothes so that I can look effortless but complete at the same time.

    • @elefanteluzvioleta
      @elefanteluzvioleta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How do you choose your clothing? I am soft dramatic too but I am kind of lost

  • @kiskakuznetsova503
    @kiskakuznetsova503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I laugh because I’m definitely a soft natural- at 5’3, however, I have always been attracted to Dramatic and Soft Dramatic styles. I am attracted to jewelry and clothes for them but at 5’3, I have to be careful! It’s as if I think I’m an Amazon but I’m stuck in a short, SN body (which isn’t awful, there are so many beautiful, curvy, vital-looking SNs).

    • @SongofBeauty
      @SongofBeauty ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can be soft dramatic despite the height. I look tall for my height 5’2 and I’m a soft dramatic. There is no way I’m blunt or wide enough to be a SN or soft and curvy enough to be romantic.

  • @lowkeychillionaire3213
    @lowkeychillionaire3213 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Incredible analysis. Thank you. I’m a soft dramatic and I feel that it’s true, when I wear loose flowy clothes or messy hair it looks separate from me, and I don’t look or feel relaxed or comfortable. Yet, when I wear cleaner lines and style my hair in romantic waves I look relaxed and comfortable. How fascinating, I’m amazed at your teaching.

  • @nattycampos
    @nattycampos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    It's so interesting to notice that when you dress in your natural feature you feel so much in your own element, it feels right not only outside but also inside. It just fits in your body AND personality!!

    • @Krismkm
      @Krismkm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Natty Campos so true.

  • @Kattrunte
    @Kattrunte 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This was exactly what I needed

  • @miriamcombe3033
    @miriamcombe3033 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m so glad I found this video! I’m honestly still unsure as to which type I am between these two, but probably SN. This was so helpful and beautiful thank you!

  • @rayellejohnson9961
    @rayellejohnson9961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    5:07 thank you! Thank you! It has taken me forever to understand what blunt meant especially in the jaw. Most of my features are sharp but rounded so I kept thinking I'm a soft natural but i look awful in the clothing and too full bodied for flamboyant natural.

  • @1_fruitperday347
    @1_fruitperday347 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Thank you Merriam, so helpful as always ❤️ your videos are so relaxing you have the most soothing voice I get asmr vibes from your videos.

  • @passionateaboutpink
    @passionateaboutpink 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yet another awesome video, thanks Merriam! Love listening to your voice and you have such amazing content. I'm a soft natural so I really appreciated this video, and the one before it, talking about the differences and similarities with other kibbe types. Thanks again.

  • @TB-rx1ue
    @TB-rx1ue 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    I feel like people with yang bones age well as they get more sharpness in the face, which helps with the drooping of the skin flesh
    Thanks for pointing out how for soft dramatics being more put together looks more relaxed on us than a casual look! I’ve realized that I have to put in a lot more effort to look decent. I love boho style or more casual looks but it just looks a bit off on me... looking polished isn’t easy tho ah

    • @kuramacabre
      @kuramacabre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes! Jane Fonda is gorgeous and she is a SN.

    • @edennis8578
      @edennis8578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kuramacabre That's hardly a fair example, though, since JF has had a LOT of work done. It isn't natural aging by any stretch of the imagination.

  • @laululla
    @laululla 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It was so nice to see this video! Thank you!
    As I have been writing before, I like to wear soft natural clothes. I don't have skills to do my hair so they are always bit messy.
    Seeing this video made me very sure that I belong to dramatic - family as my body looks just the same as the soft dramatics you presented wearing long dresses.
    So I shouldn't be afraid to wear more glamorous clothes as they don't make me look too "much". And also I should figure out easy way to do my hair in soft natural way... Sadly my hair is thin and slightly curly, so it looks easily messy.

  • @babykakers321
    @babykakers321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was torn between the two, but now am leaning toward soft natural 🌬 thank you!

  • @MicaTuHermanaMayor
    @MicaTuHermanaMayor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank youuu!!! After this video no more doubts, I'm definitely a soft dramatic 😄

  • @janebennet6204
    @janebennet6204 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video Merriam! Even when I am not one of these types, I can't stop watching your videos! ☺ Please do a video on how to differentiate between soft classic and romantic!! 😊

  • @GM-xo7yy
    @GM-xo7yy ปีที่แล้ว

    You are the most perceptive on this kibbe topic. And also color analysis. I always learn the most from your videos.

  • @grettalemabouchou6779
    @grettalemabouchou6779 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Soft Dramatic here.

  • @beautifulworld7940
    @beautifulworld7940 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much for this video, it’s such a great analysis! 😊 🎉 Could you make one about classics and soft classics?

  • @AndromedaMarina
    @AndromedaMarina 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love opening my youtube to find a new video from you, Merriam, I've been learning from you for months. I still don't know which type I am, a mixture of classic and natural but that doesn't really exist in Kibbe system :(
    Anyway, Thank you for sharing your gift with us. I wish you a very Merry Christmas

  • @christineschneider3341
    @christineschneider3341 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After a sleepless night, I watched ~3 hrs of your videos and managed to get more confused 🙃. I do love your content. Very intellectual and analytical. I think I'm either soft dramatic, soft or flamboyant natural. Basically 1/2, 1/2 As and Bs 🤷🏻‍♀️ so hard to be objective with my own body.

  • @notblondeswede
    @notblondeswede 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Can you do muscular Soft Dramatic with small eyes/small mouth vs a curvy Flamboyant natural

  • @tanyaeve9498
    @tanyaeve9498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your photos of a soft natural face and a flamboyant natural face made me look at myself and say - yup, that's me, definitely a natural!

  • @jankchic91
    @jankchic91 5 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Can you do Romantics next? You touched on so many of the body types. It would be nice to see romantics next

    • @merriamstyle
      @merriamstyle  5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Yes Alaa, I definitely will! The next video will be a romantic video!! I know we've covered a lot of body types but romantics are probably the least covered on this channel so far (but still quite common in real life).

    • @jankchic91
      @jankchic91 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@merriamstyle Thank you!!

    • @rynmarr8566
      @rynmarr8566 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am so excited now!

    • @marine930
      @marine930 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Merriam Style thank you!!!!!!!

    • @jessicagomes4043
      @jessicagomes4043 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Do a R/TR comparison video

  • @rita6291
    @rita6291 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this is one of your best. Loved it as always :)

  • @archeraimsaarrow3864
    @archeraimsaarrow3864 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Please would you be able to do a video comparing Theatrical Romantic and Soft natural please?

  • @Nancy-mm3uc
    @Nancy-mm3uc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Could you please make a video on different posing for different body types?❤️ I love your videos! They’re what I look forward to every weekend!!!😂

    • @merriamstyle
      @merriamstyle  5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Ah! I really want to, but I would want Aly to make that since everyone has been asking her!! If she doesn't make one in like six months or a year or so then I might cave and make it after all, because it is such an interesting topic to explore.

    • @sxs311
      @sxs311 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@merriamstyle she hasn't made it, please make it! I love Aly Art, don't get me wrong, but your technical eye and background has really opened up Kibbe typing for me and made me see it's not about rigid boundaries, but guidelines that you can play with to create different effects. You've analysed the poses here beautifully, please do this for all the types!

    • @zuzanavalovska4704
      @zuzanavalovska4704 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still not any video about posing... And here is one SD in a great need for some advice

  • @7834karebear
    @7834karebear 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Such a great video! One of your best I think. 😊 So much detail and research put into it, thank you for the info; your delivery is unique and awesome!

    • @merriamstyle
      @merriamstyle  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you Karen!!!

    • @ambercotrone
      @ambercotrone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Karen Maher Well said 🙌 I agree

  • @lolawho8676
    @lolawho8676 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! I am definitely soft-dramatic!

  • @di3486
    @di3486 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    More soft natural videos? I feel spoiled rotten!!!😍😍😍💕

  • @cinderling5472
    @cinderling5472 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow i learned so much from this, f.e. all this time i believed Aishwarya to be a romantic (thanks to the Truth is Beauty lady) Thank you for putting this all together ❤

  • @mj_dolman5122
    @mj_dolman5122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was so much more helpful than just written descriptions and random celebrities who appear to have almost perfect bodies anyway. Well as these ladies do too, but the deeper analysis of the bone structure and particularly the facial bone structure helps me understand why I am in fact (mainly) a soft natural and not some other type. I have read random things like that a soft natural will have wide set eyes and thin lips, or can't be "exotic", whatever that means exactly. I don't think those details have anything to do with it, except that wider cheekbones might go with wide set eyes, or on the other hand the relative width of the bones might make the eyes appear a bit closer set. Now I can see more clearly it's all about the bones and general softness vs tautness of the flesh.

  • @wayawuffin
    @wayawuffin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    these videos are so interesting!! i love getting to see the deep dives and comparison of different body types!! would love to see another one about/including plus sized women, your last one was so helpful!

  • @epasuxelar4473
    @epasuxelar4473 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really good and accurate video, you can really see the difference wearing your lines makes on your overall effect

  • @arazk5728
    @arazk5728 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Can you do a video on posing in photos for the body types?

  • @taraanndonohue8940
    @taraanndonohue8940 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is a very helpful video. I was lucky enough to visit David Kibbe in NYC and have a personal consultation and makeover. His observations ( I am a Soft Dramatic) literally changed everything I was doing wrong. I wasnt accepting my yin undercurrent and trying to hard to be just a Dramatic. I am so thankful to him for helping me find my true style identity.

    • @pianolove5690
      @pianolove5690 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      tara ann donohue how much did it cost?

    • @taraanndonohue8940
      @taraanndonohue8940 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@pianolove5690 Hi....I visited David way back in 1992 when I was much younger. His consultation was $500 plus extra for haircut, hair color, makeup lessons and make up to bring home--I think I spent over$750 dollars . I dont know what his current rates are. It was the best money I ever spent---I still have the book he wrote and refer to it a couple times a year to remind myself--of course, I bend the rules with my clothes sometimes--but he is spot on with regards to hair color, hair style and make up application--it does make a difference.

    • @shinebabyshine.
      @shinebabyshine. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      amazing! you are very lucky to have this experience

  • @radiantdevi1
    @radiantdevi1 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks for using south East Asian examples! I’m a soft dramatic but don’t have the height, am only 5 ft 5 but people think I am taller

  • @Laura-vs6fs
    @Laura-vs6fs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love how much detail you put in your videos and I am now even more assured that I am a soft dramatic. I think the hardest thing is to analyze yourself as you mostly only see the differences between you and others with the same body type rather than the similarities, which may cause you to not recognize you are that body type. People tend to also concentrate on one detail which they think is the most important rather than the whole picture. Keep up the great work!!

  • @JaneDoe-ol7yl
    @JaneDoe-ol7yl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you so much for this! I was stuck between thinking I was theatrical romantic or soft dramatic and with this video I've finally found that I'm a soft dramatic 💕

  • @mangoitaliano1757
    @mangoitaliano1757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely fantastic video! Helped me to settle on being SD not SN ❤️

  • @cheranda988
    @cheranda988 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So well explained thanks 👏🏽

  • @TheGareth87
    @TheGareth87 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Whenever Aishwaraya attend Cannes in her immaculate makeup, hair and dresses, she looks older about 15 years.

  • @sapnanayak1453
    @sapnanayak1453 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Can you do a soft gamine vs a theatrical romantic next? Btw I love this new 'this body type vs another similar body type' series on this channel.

    • @sapnanayak1453
      @sapnanayak1453 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Omg, thanks for the like @MerriamStyle! Lots of love ❤️❤️

  • @patricialinares241
    @patricialinares241 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Please a video about flamboyant natutal!!

  • @smol_chilli_pepper
    @smol_chilli_pepper 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was so helpful thank you

  • @SmooCHT123
    @SmooCHT123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I would love to see a similar video comparing Romantics and Soft Dramatics. On the surface it seems obvious but there can be tall romantics and shorter soft dramatics (ie you can BE tall but LOOK short and vice versa). Furthermore, the advice Kibbe gives them is quite similar. The differences seem to be small rounded lines vs large rounded lines. I've seen a few people online wondering this as well but not a lot of information. I would love a video on your opinion on this matter.

  • @Anita-silver
    @Anita-silver 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It would be helpful to have a video comparing soft natural to flamboyant natural. I know I'm one of them...

  • @unneighborlyarcades6356
    @unneighborlyarcades6356 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    This video was so helpful in differentiating between the "square" jaw of a dramatic and the "broad and blunt" jaw of a natural. It just goes to show that a video can be helpful, even if it is on (a) completely different body type(s).
    I can now say that I have been wrongly assuming my jaw to be natural , when it is, in fact, dramatic. With time, I will hopefully be able to analyze more features I'm not very good at analyzing better. For now, I can only reference comments I've received regarding these features.
    Here's a question: Can a person who is more yang than yin-with a yang skeleton and body and a yin face and stature-be considered flamboyant gamine although she has no B answers? I've read Kibbe eliminated the gamine category and that a flamboyant gamine consists predominantly of answers A and E with several B answers. If a person matches the "yang body and skeleton; yin size and facial features", does it matter whether that yang is sharp or blunt?

    • @Keapix
      @Keapix 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Unneighborly Arcades I found the detailed descriptions in this one so helpful. I’ve been assuming I’m a Soft Classic, but now I’m wondering whether I’ve been misinterpreting, and may actually be Soft Dramatic!

    • @unneighborlyarcades6356
      @unneighborlyarcades6356 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Keapix But the descriptions of a Soft Classic and of a Soft Dramatic are so dissimilar!
      That said, I realize it is easier to see the difference in descriptions than it is in actual people. I'm certainly not very good at that.
      As well, I think perhaps we see more of our features as "classic" (or balanced) than actually are. That's why I think it is so helpful to take comments you receive on certain body parts into account. I would say my nose is answer "C", for instance, but I've received so many comments on the smallness of my nose I've moved it over to the "yin" category. It would perhaps help to find collages of Soft Dramatics and of Soft Classics so that you may note the similar features within each category.

    • @windylue6206
      @windylue6206 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@unneighborlyarcades6356 They are dissimilar but I'm on the same boat - thought I was SC because I thought I was balanced and chose many C answers but that was in the mirror! In the mirror I saw myself from a much higher point than one would see me at a larger distance, and when I took a standing photo of my full body, I realized how tall, narrow and sharp I looked. And I wouldn't have noticed if I hadn't asked in a Facebook group what the ladies thought about my typing. They said I was very yang and I was shocked, especially since personality-wise I always think of myself as an innocent, naive girl. I would've assumed I look best in the little cute classic dresses. I still have enough softness to have a 'cute' face though, and SD fits me best.

    • @unneighborlyarcades6356
      @unneighborlyarcades6356 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@windylue6206 Oh my goodness, mirrors are our worst enemies! I can relate so much. I look completely different to myself in a full-length mirror than I do in a bathroom mirror, even.
      I think you can still dress in a "cute" way to suit your personality; it is just that it would have to be a SD kind of "cute". But, I think you bring up an interesting point. Perhaps we also have a tendency to, at first, type ourselves by our ideal self, rather than by our true self. (And maybe some type themselves by magnifying their perceived "flaws".)

    • @windylue6206
      @windylue6206 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@unneighborlyarcades6356 Sure, I'm doing my best to find a cute style for myself without looking like a joke, haha. Tighter clothing in pinks and reds seems to be good for this, large flowers also work as they're more yang patterns but still 'girly'. And large, 'oversized' jewelry can be cute given the right shapes. It's a matter of balance and it's so fun trying to figure all of this out! :D
      That's interesting, about the tendencies, and I would agree. Sometimes we build an 'ideal' in our heads based on other people and not ourselves. It's often easier to see the beauty in others than in ourselves and that's something to work on.

  • @violet18
    @violet18 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love that the glam items look casual on the soft naturals

  • @sarahahhh1943
    @sarahahhh1943 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you
    ❤️🤗

  • @rexysmith4029
    @rexysmith4029 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    oh my god Yes 😍! I've been binge watching your videos all day, trying to figure out my Type and Colors , These are two of my multiple "Not sure" 😂 It Might Help me! also I just made a super interesting testing just taking Pictures in front of my Bright Cyan/Deep Green Curtain Shower/ Pale Cool grey wall / Muted turquoise/teal towels/and almost Black Shower Tiles. The Difference on how my skin look in the different pictures is CRAZY !!! it was all taken in tge same exact lighting facing the same direction only a couple inches Appart ! 😮😮😮 I would have NOT thought I was to see such a difference. I couldn't see a difference when I was trying to see between Bright Yellow or blue , but I definitely look bad on Pale cool grey and worst on warmer pale grey !!! my entire house is in cool grey tones... maybe that's why I always feel like I look bad 😂😂😂😂

    • @merriamstyle
      @merriamstyle  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh my gosh tell me about it! Some of my walls are beige (which is an awful color on me) so I sometimes feel like 'why do I look like this today am I even ok??" But then I go to the gray wall (the one that I film next to, needless to say), and I look much better already. :)

    • @gittevandevelde2208
      @gittevandevelde2208 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@merriamstyle My walls are grey and bright white, while I am an Autumn! When I move out from my parents, I am definitely going to paint my house teal, cream and moss...

  • @user-cs1xz
    @user-cs1xz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you are amazing!

  • @clementinetufts3454
    @clementinetufts3454 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful, thank you.

  • @divestedkonservativekarame4269
    @divestedkonservativekarame4269 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the traits you're talking about in the face that soft naturals have. To me though when I don't smile it looks like the the dramatic but when I smile I do have have a lot of muscle there lets see with the body

  • @littlefrog9553
    @littlefrog9553 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I'm really bad at typing, I think my own bodydysmorphia distorts my ability to assess bodies.
    I really thought Monica, Aishwarya and Kat were romantic (sub)types. 👀

  • @stayathomemess
    @stayathomemess 5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    How do you work with your natural hair structure when it differs from the lines you need? Like a romantic body type with straight hair or a Yang body type with curly hair? The idea that these people would have to damage their hair to get lines that work is annoying. Is there a way to work with that?

    • @ambercotrone
      @ambercotrone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jenna Olson That’s a good point! I have naturally messy curly hair that does not suit my soft dramatic lines. I don’t like straightening and brushing my hair gives me instant frizz.

    • @gforskli4307
      @gforskli4307 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ambercotrone maybe extra hidration to help define the curves and give volume but at the same time making sure it looks taken care of. I don't brush my hair, I kind of "comb" it with my hands... like just follow the natural lines to help define them

    • @Kpower
      @Kpower 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Well, curls aren't the only property that contributes to the shape of a hairstyle. There's also the length, cut and parting of the style.
      If you have a Yin body and straight hair, short hair, layers, side-swept bangs and side parts will all add yin to the hair even if it is straight.
      For yang body types, with curly hair. You can do a blunt cuts, middle parting, pony tails/ buns, pixie/buzz cuts.

    • @laetitialalila7390
      @laetitialalila7390 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Jenna, there are heatless methods of styling the hair both for curling and straightening ( if your hair is not TOO curly that is). I am a Romantic with straight hair and curl my hair damp on rolers. I actually tried using a hot curler, but it leaves my thin hair crispy and I hate it anyway. With the curlers, it remains soft, but I'm just starting out and I'm not very good at it 😅. And yeah, a good cut also helps with the lines! ☺

    • @rachelholden792
      @rachelholden792 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Jenna Olson I’m a dramatic with natural hair (read: Afro hair) and if you can’t work with the texture, work with the cut and shape! My hair grows up and out, not down, so I can’t usually use tips about hair.

  • @jessicagomes4043
    @jessicagomes4043 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    SD and TR are similar speaking of glamour

  • @ambercotrone
    @ambercotrone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You are so right. When I first saw Priyanka I thought she might be a SD but then I heard that she was a natural from somewhere so I guess that stuck. I totally see the SD lines now. This is such a detailed video I love it. Thank you for helping me train my eye 😊

  • @everlastingideas8625
    @everlastingideas8625 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos are great and very detailed but I m still confused between those 2 types . I lean more towards soft dramatic considering my face (esp the cheekbones and nose) but I m still not sure enough.

  • @tejalrokade1771
    @tejalrokade1771 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Idk why but I feel Priyanka Chopra belongs to Natural Family

    • @jasmeen5712
      @jasmeen5712 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because she is 😉

  • @Hanna-nw8mn
    @Hanna-nw8mn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Merriam! I think we all would appreciate if you could make videos for the rest of body types as there already are for soft gamines and soft naturals! :) It is really helpful to have more information about the clothing (with examples), hair, makeup and everything gathered in one place. Thank you for keeping us informed and making videos!

  • @Julia-ey4zd
    @Julia-ey4zd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Don't say too much of "this is just my opinion", "again, she's beautiful, but.. ". It's too much of reassuring and we know that you don't criticize her. You just have to make those judgements to show your insight.
    Thank you for your work.

    • @welcometothesaltyspitoon
      @welcometothesaltyspitoon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, but some ppl don't understand normal things like that and get easily offended by everything. .

  • @ambercotrone
    @ambercotrone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I’ve been curious what do you think is Bella Hadid’s type? Aly Art mentioned that she might be a flamboyant natural, but I think she is a really skinny soft dramatic. She wears soft Dramatic lines often and I think she looks so distinguished in them. What do you think? Also is Angelina Jolie SD? I’m still not sure on her.

    • @windylue6206
      @windylue6206 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Angelina Jolie looks like she has a blunt, Natural face to me, and the leading Kibbe stylist in my country typed her as a Soft Natural but having lost a lot of her softness due to being very thin. When I look at her photos, I do like her best in more relaxed hairstyles.

    • @marhas1389
      @marhas1389 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I was wondering about Bella's type too. And I agree that she looks stellar in sd lines.

    • @ju2082
      @ju2082 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I would say Angelina is some sort of natural, could be the soft natural yes. And Bella is probably FN, I don't follow her but at times I come across her photos and in them she tends to wear and look unique in the separates and unconstructed lines, when I saw her in something diva glamorous, very put together in the SD style, I thought the style wore her, in my opinion. But she also allegedly had some surgeries so it could be throwing off her "essence".

    • @Laura-vs6fs
      @Laura-vs6fs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      angelina has naturally blunt bones and her face used to look SN, but now she looks like a dried up SD, since she had cheek, lip and jaw implants, which added sharpness to her face yet her nose jobs still kept the natural essence of her nose without changing it too much. Her body is more of a FN though as she doesn't look as good in soft natural lines, for examples she tends to wear them on the red carpet, but looks amazing in more flamboyant natural, casual outfits. The D black dress she wore with the leg slit actually looked pretty good on her, but still it felt a little too constructed. As for bella, she is classified as an FN too, btu she also had procedures done, which sharpened her features, so even though she may look like a D, she looked like a FN, when she was very young and you could see that even through her baby fat.

    • @GlitteryGossip21
      @GlitteryGossip21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      angelina is def a natural. she is big-boned. bella is a skinny sd

  • @naushinkhan2598
    @naushinkhan2598 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Hi, I am a biochemist. Can we have some more soft gamine and looking boyish instead of girlish ? I always see girly looks for soft gamine but for my lab work I prefer boyish looks.

    • @naushinkhan2598
      @naushinkhan2598 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@aoifecalderon383 I love her! I will see how I can modernize it. Thank you

  • @sarahfreeman1304
    @sarahfreeman1304 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the best news I've received all day! I share a body type with Aishwarya! ❤

  • @clairekurdelak2913
    @clairekurdelak2913 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Great job! This came in great timing; my daughters and I were talking about this just this afternoon. So, naturals have width in their yang skeletons, dramatics more narrowness, right? And with the soft types of these, both have soft flesh. But the character of SD needs to be more structured or polished, SN needs to be unstructured and unpolished! Right? So with my beautiful teens there is one of each. 😊

    • @clairekurdelak2913
      @clairekurdelak2913 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Btw your video in which you discussed how a SD could use girlish elements that are not too small and dainty for her was super helpful! ❤️

    • @gittevandevelde2208
      @gittevandevelde2208 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Based on your description, I am a soft dramatic! I have narrow, sharp bones. Thin-boned in a way, but not small-boned. Just...thin-boned, kind of lanky, sharp, narrow but strong bones. But with some yin influence: round eyes, soft cheecks, fleshyness even at a bmi of 16. I'm a bit in between regular draamtic and soft dramatic in terms of fleshyness, but overly structured and boxy takes away from the small but existing 'womanly curves' I have.

    • @cinderling5472
      @cinderling5472 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gitte Van de velde I think I'm the same as you, but I'm kinda smallish for a dramatic (5"7) and really thin (gaining weight for me is hard). So i forever thought myself a natural. But i have no width to my bones, just lanky narrowness and small curves. So curious huh?

    • @gittevandevelde2208
      @gittevandevelde2208 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cinderling5472 ​ Totally the same! I am only 5'5" even, which is usually short for anything dramatic. But most people guess me taller because of my small head, long neck and because I look so narrow overall. Like you take someone very tall and just resize the whole body to be smaller. No width to my bones at all, just lanky narrowness like you say, but some albeit small, still soft and existing 'feminine curves' in the areas where it matters the most - I am quite voluptuous in the bust and hip area considering my weight. A c-cup and sometimes my waist and hips differ two full sizes, depending on the brand. I only weigh a 100 pounds which is very little for my height.

    • @cinderling5472
      @cinderling5472 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gitte Van de velde Oh that is interesting! Actually, you are starting to sound a bit like perhaps a sort of gamine to me now you've mentioned your height! You know; flamboyant gamines are often noted to be just like smaller sized dramatics, as you've specifically mentioned to be like! If your body seems a bit on the compact side as opposed to 'stretched out' if that makes sense, then perhaps you could see how FG lines suit you? Just guessing here though 😇

  • @waterbearer4627
    @waterbearer4627 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting and informative. What is yasmeen ghauri? She has a true skinny hourglass figure but she is lean and has a swan neck.

  • @hideawayglobal
    @hideawayglobal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please do soft natural vs. theatrical romantic

  • @ariesgirl371
    @ariesgirl371 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don’t know which one i am, i feel like I’m everything lol. I have bold round features with high cheek bones but soft also with big cheeks and dimples....

    • @merriamstyle
      @merriamstyle  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Have you considered soft gamine? You look like you may be shorter (some yin in your skeleton), but of course it's hard to say just from your face. And also, for your face, I would say your jawline is answer B, it's hard to say for your cheekbones from that angle but you say they're high so let's say answer A, but your nose is answer E (again a mixture of opposites in your face). Then, your lips and cheeks look quite yin (also soft gamine--yang skeleton, yin flesh, but a mixture). Another possibility is theatrical romantic depending on the rest of your body. It's possible that you're soft natural too. Would you say your arms and legs are long or short? Do you have an hourglass figure? Do people say you look taller or shorter than you are?

    • @ariesgirl371
      @ariesgirl371 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Merriam Style i am short ( 5’2 ) i have an athletic body type. I do not have a sharp (masculine) jaw line.

    • @merriamstyle
      @merriamstyle  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe some kind of gamine then! Seems like a mixture of opposites. :) I would forget about soft natural and soft dramatic if you have an athletic body type because soft natural and soft dramatic are more curvy/soft (but they have larger bones), not necessarily athletic.

  • @theagaram9581
    @theagaram9581 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you do soft natural vs. soft gamine?

  • @jenniferpanicacci5938
    @jenniferpanicacci5938 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    🙏🏻 Merriam, this one's SO helpful. My mom always wanted me to dress soft dramatic or classic and I'm a soft natural like my dad! Ironically and conversely, my mom was a classic and never quite got her type right, bless her. I'm so glad we all have Kibbe to set us a little bit more on the right path, making us aware of all the subtleties and nuances. 🌺Thank you. ~ Jen in California

  • @lemmings6516
    @lemmings6516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am a soft dramatic with a baby face :D that is such a funny mixture

    • @zec5763
      @zec5763 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too 😂

  • @mariemai2902
    @mariemai2902 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is it possible to be a natural without broad shoulders? I think I have a soft dramatic body but my face does not fit this type at all.

  • @rustyrober368
    @rustyrober368 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    6:00 how does she still look gorgeous while doing a derp face

  • @daniellepreyar
    @daniellepreyar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still confused...I'm one of them dont know which one though. Im 5'7.5, fleshy, long arms and legs...I just wanna know best type of clothes to wear 😩

  • @sunalighoghari
    @sunalighoghari ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can soft natural be tall too? I mean they are into shorter side more

  • @bliboablublubblappvaude7960
    @bliboablublubblappvaude7960 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Please do theatrical romantics next.

  • @catobrien837
    @catobrien837 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please help!! Can’t figure it out and I just got a haircut that doesn’t suit me and I don’t know why.
    5’8”loong torso, fairly narrow shoulders though not angular, slight hourglass, long slim, hands and feet. Look pretty tall.
    Medium fleshiness , large bust, med booty.
    Very full lips, almond eyes, not a cheekbone in sight, long broad nose, high forehead
    Thanks a ton if you read this 💜

  • @user-iv5yq5sc1h
    @user-iv5yq5sc1h 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thaaaaank you

  • @elinljungstrom3932
    @elinljungstrom3932 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I would actually love to see a more in depth-comparison between SN and FN. In some cases, I think it's fairly obvious if a person is tending towards a bit softer or a bit more dramatic (i.e. if you compare Scarlett Johanson and some of the super models; she looks shorter and curvier, the super models look way taller, less curvy and with longer bones). In other cases, I find it difficult to understand why a certain celebrity is considered FN and not SN, as with Jennifer Lawrence. It's not obvious to me why Katy Perry and Pink (both being SN on Kibbe's list) are considered softer than Jennifer. Several times I've found myself thinking that a certain celebrity is SN and then finding out she's typed as FN. To me, seeing that extra bit of yang or yin is easier in classics or gamines, but for some reason, I find it harder with naturals.

    • @kidaria1333
      @kidaria1333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah Jennifer Lawrence is more soft natural for me as well especially if you value her face and not only the body. Her and Katy Pery are even the same hieght. The only difference between her and Katy are the shoulders. Jennifers are a bit more broader and straight whereas Katys are a bit more smaller, rounder and dipping.
      However in reality many people are betwenn two types not far from each other like soft natural and flamboyant natural, or soft natural and soft dramatic,...etc. The main thing is the kibbe system is to understand the general essence of yin and yang in your body where and how.

    • @quicampbell8415
      @quicampbell8415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is late but it’s because Jennifer is 5’9. I still count her as soft natural because lines>height

  • @jessicagomes4043
    @jessicagomes4043 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I thought Jennifer Love Hewitt was a TR

    • @annatttttttt67584
      @annatttttttt67584 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She is :) I also don't agree with Monica being SD, she's Romantic (too soft for SD, compare with Sofia Loren or Lisa Kudrow, i don't see that much yang in Monica), Priyanka Chopra is FG (completely different body type than SD)

    • @jasmeen5712
      @jasmeen5712 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@annatttttttt67584 I totally disagree with you about Monica Bellucci, her skeleton isn't romantic at all. Compare her to Marilyn monroe or Drew Barrimore you'll see that Monica looks more "powerful" the other two will look very delicate and fragile. Also, Soft Dramatic clothes look perfect on Monica (probably why she likes to wear them). Her cheekbones, her shoulders, arms, legs, hands and jawline are dramatic.

  • @JC-ry4we
    @JC-ry4we 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Jennifer Love Hewitt is Theatrical Romanitic pritty sure.

    • @merriamstyle
      @merriamstyle  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      She's on Kibbe's list as being 'probably FG'. She isn't a complete textbook FG, but, her bone structure is more yin while her flesh (on her face) is more yang. For her body, she also has a primarily yin skeleton, but a mixture of yin/yang for her flesh (her flesh on her arms and legs is taut for example, even though she has an hourglass shape).

  • @arlenewitt248
    @arlenewitt248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow, I reviewed multiple videos discussing the different Kibbe types by different fashion channels and I’ve come to the conclusion I can talk myself into being about 4 different types and it’s a ploy to get people to fork out for analyses. I am happiest wearing what makes me feel the most attractive in the colors I like best. I think I am going to go with that. When one has difficulty determining type because of how much “flesh” a person is packing then it kind of negates the importance of types.

  • @666mooncat
    @666mooncat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how about doing Gwyneth Paltrow vs Claire Danes comparison?

  • @mariavictoriasalita5273
    @mariavictoriasalita5273 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish to see the differences between Soft Dramatic vs Soft Classic, Soft Natural vs Soft Classic, plus their common denominators. Thank you and greetings from Mapnila, Philippines.

  • @kareng.7773
    @kareng.7773 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we be SG even with some b answers? like b jawlines but a shoulders, and d/E flesh/arms/legs (etc.)

    • @merriamstyle
      @merriamstyle  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I think so! As long as you're a mixture of opposites, with your flesh and facial features being primarily yin, and your skeleton and facial bone structure tending more toward yang.

  • @JuliaShalomJordan
    @JuliaShalomJordan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video. I think I am a soft dramatic...🧐

  • @nawezashaikh7054
    @nawezashaikh7054 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm confused between natural and soft natural

  • @joymiller2055
    @joymiller2055 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you please go more in-depth on flamboyant gamine? I am so confused by the stereotypes.

  • @mjade1673
    @mjade1673 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So do you think when/ S. Gomez dresses Gamine she is dressing for her face? Because i think it looks good on her (as does SN), when proportioned correctly. Thanks for all your info/work 👍😇✌💪

    • @merriamstyle
      @merriamstyle  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I wouldn't say Selena has a gamine face. Her bone structure in her face is 100% soft yang, and her features are 100% yin--this is a soft natural face. But, gamine is often confused with cute or ingenue faces (which she totally has). I compare her in gamine lines vs soft natural lines in my 'same face different kibbe type' video, if you want to check it out for some examples!

    • @mjade1673
      @mjade1673 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@merriamstyle oh yes👍. Ive definitely seen that it's in my faves! I just have a terrible memory (especially after having mono all year😆). And that totally makes sense 💪👍. I am one of those people 😆😊😊. Because i like her in those outfits 😄✊. Thanks for Clarifying 😊

  • @levinaana6574
    @levinaana6574 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you tell me about Ornella muti ?

  • @RoastedSaltedPeanut
    @RoastedSaltedPeanut 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought in one of your other videos..you typed Aishwarya rai as romantic

  • @adrijamajumdar1856
    @adrijamajumdar1856 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I feel like Priyanka matches soft natural more than she does soft dramatic

  • @someoneyoumightknow2795
    @someoneyoumightknow2795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oooh I might be a soft dramatic then

  • @hotncold4050
    @hotncold4050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Apparently Kibbe just typed Selena Gomez as a TR!

  • @aa540
    @aa540 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    does anyone know a difference between a soft gamine and a soft natural?? (besides the size difference) your answer will be appreciated!!

    • @aa540
      @aa540 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pdpUU thank you for your response, I really appreciate it!