7:30 considering how powerful the family was, the Calvert mansion could be one in a mere string of mansions. The house could’ve laid empty with a skeleton crew most of the year and so was a great place for Chinese agents to squat.
Im pretty mad about the captain zao cut content, taking a Chinese nuclear sub to an underwater vault sounds incredible. Then again, and underwater vault doesn't seem to make much sense
@@markcarpenter6020 but how would they get people there? Every vault was essentially built for human experimentation. Save for a few control vaults. We know that most prewar Americans were taken almost by complete surprise, and many didn't even think the bombs were actually falling. Even with vault tecs early warning, I don't see them successfully getting people to an underwater vault in the ocean, in a timely manor.
@@saturn12002 just have it connected to land by a tunnel. You can even point out the tunnel was damaged or collapsed by the bombs in the game. It dosent have to be very far offshore to work as a vault. Just in maybe 100 -150 foot depth range.(that can be within half a mile of shore)
That and you do remember there is such thing as rich people who could afford to get to that vault. There is also a mod that restore the underwater vault by simply putting a elevator that leads to a underground tunnel which you have to go through a port hole into the water to get to the vault. If i am correct there used to be a small submarine which will take people to vault. Also it’s fallout none of things they do make sense logically. You don’t necessarily turn to a ghoul when taking high radiation amounts you freaking die a slow painful death
Sadly the bit about that and the true origin of the New Plague as a US bio-weapon isn't fully considered official canon. About the closest thing to it is the Red Chinese bunker under the Whitespring in 76 in terms of a serious security breach.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel it doesn’t have to have anything to do with the new plague. It’s a nod to it but it’s just some captured stealth armour from a canon game.
1:24 not to mention how if you use resurrect command on these two, they will be hostile to each other and whoever wins, they will then go after the player...but generally it's a deathmatch as they are both about equal
more than likely developer leftovers but I like to imagine they went crazy being locked down there together trying to survive the fallout from nukes they didn't expect
@@hotmailcompany52 that's what I thought too when I first tested it, sure is a neat thing to stumble upon, as most bodies don't do anything when you do that else wise
Hear me out: Any way you put it, USA Military and PRC Military aesthetics are terrific in Fallout. Even the propaganda versions are sick (looking at the Subjugator and Armor Ace). Operation Anchorage exemplifies the Chinese side and the Enclave exemplifies the American side. Either way, Fallout’s military art direction is spot on.
Yeah, it's weird they didn't include any Chinese bases in fallout 4, given how many locations held secrets that would be important to China. It would've been cool to find a Chinese intelligence bunker. Maybe close to fort strong, gathering intelligence on the development of the fat man.
Point Lookout’s Velvet Curtain was a perfect example (as mentioned in the video) of this. You find out about a Chinese Secret Agent-Dr. Jiang-finish her mission, and find out what would have awaited her. While minor, I think it’s worth mentioning the Little Yangtze Camp in the Big MT. Because it held Chinese prisoners, a good amount of them were probably spies.
I think Little Yangtze held mostly Chinese-American people, detained after the Executive Order 99066 (which is a reference to the real world Executive Order 9066 of Roosevelt, that put Japanese-American people in concentration camps)
Love your fallout lore videos man. I can’t get enough. I remember when I first played Fallout 3. It was such a mind f*ck. I was reading every terminal anything I could get my hands on to learn the history of what/why fallout happened. I didn’t know anything about the previous games.
Nietzsche was right in our universe too, at least in part. When he said “god is dead, and we killed him” he was not boasting, he was talking about how advances in science and industrialization etc had “killed” the role the church/god held in western societies. He then went on to talk about how people will try to fill this void with many different things; a process still ongoing.
I’ve always found it fun to get in-character playing an RPG, so with my Fallout 76 character I made up a story that my character was a Chinese double-agent infiltrating America to usher in communism, with my front being an Enclave agent. So “in public” I have the enclave officer uniform on with a normal home, but in a room locked off from the rest of my base it’s all red propaganda and a Red Shift power armor set I use for raids. Is it excessive? Sure. But if Bethesda isn’t gonna give me more content I’ll make my own!
That Chinese Assault Rifle Skin Works as well. Also Gauss Weapons are apparently of Chinese origin (if the Gauss Minigun being the one from Fallout Tactics can still be believed)
I actually have an easier time in 3rd. I only go into 1st person for looting usually. I'm such a weird player, I've been playing since 3 came out, and just this year started using chems! No reason, just never bothers. Yes, us crazy people do exist.
It's weird that the water is irradiated in Fallout. Water absorbs radiation pretty quick. The only thing radioactive enough that you'd still be getting rads from the shallows centuries later is ion exchanger resin. Even bombs wouldn't do that.
Yeah I read somewhere that after 200 years the radiation should've disappeared from most of the Wasteland, considering what happened with Hiroshima and Nagasaki in our timeline, but I guess making the game "realistic" would kill most of the aesthetic and mechanics. The Mojave is pretty clean though, thanks to House's missile defense system. In the same sense, Fallout's radiation follows many old and incorrect beliefs we always had from pop culture like "radiation is green" or "nuclear war=nuclear winter", etc.
I know it's probably a game thing, but I find weird that a lot of these Chinese remnants and troopers didn't attempt to take over the US after the bombs fell. I'm sure the Great War was unexpected for most of them (besides the Yangtze submarine), but what better opportunity to conquer an enemy country than during the chaos of a post-nuclear war? Even if there was no longer a country to conquer, the Chinese should've tried to secure government centers and military bases at least, that's how I imagine the origins of the Chinese/Shi's San Francisco.
The chinese were only maintaining relatively small groups of spies in the states when the bombs fell. Even if they could still focus on the goal of conquering the US instead of trying to get home, they probably didnt have the numbers or the firepower to defeat the remnants of the US army or tame the general anarchy/violence of any areas of importance.
2:26 Translation into English commoner tongue is apparently "The abyss also into you" which also would explain why it makes no sense given its a partial quote
ZzzzZzZZzzz Joking, but it depends on what parts. Some of it is a fucking mess. The raider lore is pretty good though, which I believe he has already made videos about.
The writers are really showing their inexperience with firearms and military doctrine here. They talk about a covert Chinese base being stocked with 1200 'units' of ammunition. I speak from experience when I say a thousand rounds of ammo will run dry in one afternoon if you're doing basic target practice for 5 people. A combat loadout usually includes up to 150 rounds per person. You're looking at 750 being carried on patrols or actions by a 5 man group
While you are almost certainly right about Bethesda not knowing their stuff, I suppose I can kinda twist my brain and say “the Chinese kept a very very small supply of ammo so as to not draw undue attention to large purchases and transport of ammunition.”
On some of the terminals in the base it talks about how their requests for more ammo and supplies keep getting denied so I think they are just under supplied
@@MatthewFavorite1927 Reminds me of some of the NCR bases in New Vegas, where the leadership will bitch to the player about being undersupplied and ignored.
Nice. Personally i ruin the plans for the captain of the Yangzee, because Nate is a soldier and literally saw the bombs that were launched from that very sub just a few weeks ago, the bombs that started his current living nightmare. I can do roleplay better than bethesda can do writing.
He actually seems remorseful. I spare him and help him so he can go home and rebuild his home. I hate commies, but he is no longer an enemy and he did not start a fight.
Your character was no different to the Captain: two survivors of a pointless war long over. War caused the end, why continue the bloodshed over long dead nations?
The fact you can ruin it, is the roleplay you are asking for. FO4 is bad when it come to rpg mechanics, but you have the option. I personally can understand him. If I recall, he feels guilty, and that the whole war was pointless. Hes not that different than the poor americans that committed brutal acts and died for some oil companies. (Im not american)
Huh. My biggest disappointment in fallout is the lack of oceanic combat. With all the corpses of mutated dolphins on the beaches of the commonwealth, I spent at least an hour swimming around trying to find what took a bite on my first playthrough. Then there's the disappointment of the pointless piping on the sea floor....
It's crazy how many people play Fallout, and somehow miss the point of "war is bad and the greed of nations will end the world" and then go parrot propaganda in real life.
Most fallout fans are weird, don't expect them to understand philosophy or history, most of them are just rednecks or weirdos who live in their mom's basements.
Chinese spies in the american system, large rich corpo chinese traitors, China mobilizing on to American soil through businesses, owning land before any conflict or war is started, American traitors tempted with nice words and bribes, China have full control over many different production lines of America (Made In China)
@@spider-spectre are you ignoring the fact the USA wasn't the good guy in Fallout? The Enclave, various horrifying projects, rampant poverty and evil companies...
@@Autumn_Actually Authoritarian governments are the problem. What point are you trying to make? That the Chinese are the good guys? Regardless of what you think of America in Fallout or irl, if YOU are an American, why would you want to be at the mercy of an invader? You literally have a better chance with the Enclave, Vaults etc. than getting shot on sight by a Chinese soldier yelling "Sǐguǐ lǎo!"
@@Autumn_Actually The game is telling you to not be a sellout, that America has become a sellout to its values to a quick buck, utilizing Chinese slave labor for cheap products which Americans are addicted to consuming thus work endlessly to buy dumb cheap plastic and useless gadgets. And through this, the corrupt have taken power with great funds, those with sadistic, self centered, narcissistic views now control the workings of government and the biggest businesses. Corrupt AMericans who betray their people for selfish benefit are the Enclave, Vault Tec, Worker corps like Hornwright, who fed off and even benefited from the conflict with China, taking the fear and propaganda to allow them free reign on how to steer the country.
"Where was China?' Oh I dunno m8, somewhere out East I reckon. *laugh track and clapping with woops and hollers* Heheh thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week.
Seems in the fallout universe the neo liberal hegemom needed the same type of boogeyman that our universe did. Red scare, death squads, cold War turned hot.
"Where did that guy even come from" Thats how the *REDS* are y'know... he was probably your neighbor... cant trust anyone these days. Stay vigilant, patriot
@Cat-uv7dy I think you are confused communist is a form of goverment that puts community above all else. Capitalism is the true evil as they put money above all else case and point 26k die every year from lack of medical coverage in america cuz they cant afford it. Take care comrade.
7:30 considering how powerful the family was, the Calvert mansion could be one in a mere string of mansions. The house could’ve laid empty with a skeleton crew most of the year and so was a great place for Chinese agents to squat.
What a small world! I've actually watched some of your content before! Pretty neat 👍
Im pretty mad about the captain zao cut content, taking a Chinese nuclear sub to an underwater vault sounds incredible. Then again, and underwater vault doesn't seem to make much sense
Makes a good bit when you realize water is a natural radiation blocker.
@@markcarpenter6020 but how would they get people there? Every vault was essentially built for human experimentation. Save for a few control vaults. We know that most prewar Americans were taken almost by complete surprise, and many didn't even think the bombs were actually falling. Even with vault tecs early warning, I don't see them successfully getting people to an underwater vault in the ocean, in a timely manor.
@@saturn12002 just have it connected to land by a tunnel. You can even point out the tunnel was damaged or collapsed by the bombs in the game. It dosent have to be very far offshore to work as a vault. Just in maybe 100 -150 foot depth range.(that can be within half a mile of shore)
That and you do remember there is such thing as rich people who could afford to get to that vault.
There is also a mod that restore the underwater vault by simply putting a elevator that leads to a underground tunnel which you have to go through a port hole into the water to get to the vault. If i am correct there used to be a small submarine which will take people to vault.
Also it’s fallout none of things they do make sense logically. You don’t necessarily turn to a ghoul when taking high radiation amounts you freaking die a slow painful death
@@markcarpenter6020 Yeah that's what I was thinking as well
There’s also the Chinese Stealth Armour found in Hoover Dam in New Vegas, which is from an attempted sabotage
Sadly the bit about that and the true origin of the New Plague as a US bio-weapon isn't fully considered official canon. About the closest thing to it is the Red Chinese bunker under the Whitespring in 76 in terms of a serious security breach.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel it doesn’t have to have anything to do with the new plague. It’s a nod to it but it’s just some captured stealth armour from a canon game.
1:24 not to mention how if you use resurrect command on these two, they will be hostile to each other and whoever wins, they will then go after the player...but generally it's a deathmatch as they are both about equal
more than likely developer leftovers but I like to imagine they went crazy being locked down there together trying to survive the fallout from nukes they didn't expect
@@hotmailcompany52 that's what I thought too when I first tested it, sure is a neat thing to stumble upon, as most bodies don't do anything when you do that else wise
Hear me out:
Any way you put it, USA Military and PRC Military aesthetics are terrific in Fallout. Even the propaganda versions are sick (looking at the Subjugator and Armor Ace). Operation Anchorage exemplifies the Chinese side and the Enclave exemplifies the American side. Either way, Fallout’s military art direction is spot on.
Wish Fallout 4 dipped more into this lore with the hidden PLA broadcasts and bases
Yeah, it's weird they didn't include any Chinese bases in fallout 4, given how many locations held secrets that would be important to China.
It would've been cool to find a Chinese intelligence bunker. Maybe close to fort strong, gathering intelligence on the development of the fat man.
Point Lookout’s Velvet Curtain was a perfect example (as mentioned in the video) of this. You find out about a Chinese Secret Agent-Dr. Jiang-finish her mission, and find out what would have awaited her.
While minor, I think it’s worth mentioning the Little Yangtze Camp in the Big MT. Because it held Chinese prisoners, a good amount of them were probably spies.
I think Little Yangtze held mostly Chinese-American people, detained after the Executive Order 99066 (which is a reference to the real world Executive Order 9066 of Roosevelt, that put Japanese-American people in concentration camps)
N_orte is favoured, a bot comment chain! He can now say hes sucessful and support Fallout's work and the Church of Bethesda.
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@@alpha_9997hope I get some australium
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@@Ilikebugs2464 wuhuhu
Love your fallout lore videos man. I can’t get enough. I remember when I first played Fallout 3. It was such a mind f*ck. I was reading every terminal anything I could get my hands on to learn the history of what/why fallout happened. I didn’t know anything about the previous games.
same here, my brain was a sponge, and fallout new vegas came...... then eventually fallout 4 lol it was a gold mine
Nietzsche was right in our universe too, at least in part. When he said “god is dead, and we killed him” he was not boasting, he was talking about how advances in science and industrialization etc had “killed” the role the church/god held in western societies. He then went on to talk about how people will try to fill this void with many different things; a process still ongoing.
Bruh Nietzsche is just another guy who shares his opinions, God doesn't exist neither Allah or Buddha, you people are just uneducated, that's all.
I’ve always found it fun to get in-character playing an RPG, so with my Fallout 76 character I made up a story that my character was a Chinese double-agent infiltrating America to usher in communism, with my front being an Enclave agent. So “in public” I have the enclave officer uniform on with a normal home, but in a room locked off from the rest of my base it’s all red propaganda and a Red Shift power armor set I use for raids. Is it excessive? Sure. But if Bethesda isn’t gonna give me more content I’ll make my own!
That Chinese Assault Rifle Skin Works as well. Also Gauss Weapons are apparently of Chinese origin (if the Gauss Minigun being the one from Fallout Tactics can still be believed)
@@lazwardazure716wait there's a Chinese assault rifle skin?
You forgot about Mama Dolce factory in Fallout 3. There’s a few alive Chinese Remnants that are hostile in there. 9:29
Erm no he didn’t, you missed that part of the video?
@@Vaultboy-ke2jj I thought he was doing it by game. Only watched until he started doing fallout 4. May bad! Thanks for letting me know. 12:53
Keep making your wholesome content bro love it ❤
Excellent info gathering,and presentation!!
Someone actually playing fallout in third person...
Respect 🙏
I actually have an easier time in 3rd.
I only go into 1st person for looting usually.
I'm such a weird player, I've been playing since 3 came out, and just this year started using chems! No reason, just never bothers.
Yes, us crazy people do exist.
Along with Piper and Nick, Zao is one of my favorite NPCs.
The numbers station op they were pulling was insane. I love that kind of stuff in this series. The Point Lookout submarine was another big one
It's weird that the water is irradiated in Fallout. Water absorbs radiation pretty quick. The only thing radioactive enough that you'd still be getting rads from the shallows centuries later is ion exchanger resin. Even bombs wouldn't do that.
Radiation in Fallout is a bit weird. Seeing how it may cause visions, immortality, psychic powers etc. Its easier to compare it to magic energy.
@@lurkingone7079 or is explained for dunwich borers demon maeby?
I dont talk very english, sorry my errors
Yeah I read somewhere that after 200 years the radiation should've disappeared from most of the Wasteland, considering what happened with Hiroshima and Nagasaki in our timeline, but I guess making the game "realistic" would kill most of the aesthetic and mechanics.
The Mojave is pretty clean though, thanks to House's missile defense system.
In the same sense, Fallout's radiation follows many old and incorrect beliefs we always had from pop culture like "radiation is green" or "nuclear war=nuclear winter", etc.
Dear Bethesda,
ITS ME... AUSTIN! 😂
I know it's probably a game thing, but I find weird that a lot of these Chinese remnants and troopers didn't attempt to take over the US after the bombs fell. I'm sure the Great War was unexpected for most of them (besides the Yangtze submarine), but what better opportunity to conquer an enemy country than during the chaos of a post-nuclear war? Even if there was no longer a country to conquer, the Chinese should've tried to secure government centers and military bases at least, that's how I imagine the origins of the Chinese/Shi's San Francisco.
The chinese were only maintaining relatively small groups of spies in the states when the bombs fell. Even if they could still focus on the goal of conquering the US instead of trying to get home, they probably didnt have the numbers or the firepower to defeat the remnants of the US army or tame the general anarchy/violence of any areas of importance.
@@justinl4412 oh yeah, it makes sense
2:26
Translation into English commoner tongue is apparently "The abyss also into you" which also would explain why it makes no sense given its a partial quote
16:55 Kinda want to try 76 now. Looks fun.
Oh dang can’t wait to watch this one!
Man i love this content you should do a fallout 76 lore video next perhaps
agree.
ZzzzZzZZzzz
Joking, but it depends on what parts. Some of it is a fucking mess. The raider lore is pretty good though, which I believe he has already made videos about.
What else was a mess the only thing i could think of was the brotherhood expedition the rest of the lore was pretty fucking good from what i seen
Wake up babe, new N_orte video dropped
I think the commando encounter is labeled in the game as downed pilot so uhh guess we found a paratrooper
The writers are really showing their inexperience with firearms and military doctrine here. They talk about a covert Chinese base being stocked with 1200 'units' of ammunition. I speak from experience when I say a thousand rounds of ammo will run dry in one afternoon if you're doing basic target practice for 5 people. A combat loadout usually includes up to 150 rounds per person. You're looking at 750 being carried on patrols or actions by a 5 man group
While you are almost certainly right about Bethesda not knowing their stuff, I suppose I can kinda twist my brain and say “the Chinese kept a very very small supply of ammo so as to not draw undue attention to large purchases and transport of ammunition.”
this is assuming this "unit" means a single bullet. Which is unlikely. Otherwise they would've likely said "rounds" or "bullets"
What are you considering a "unit"? It could be a truckload, a magazine, etc.
On some of the terminals in the base it talks about how their requests for more ammo and supplies keep getting denied so I think they are just under supplied
@@MatthewFavorite1927 Reminds me of some of the NCR bases in New Vegas, where the leadership will bitch to the player about being undersupplied and ignored.
Banger video as always, my Canadian brother
@@user-71675 nope, I am not a bot user-71675
(Going to check my basement for secret bunkers)
You never know!
It's crazy how much chinese stuff I've missed while wondering the wastes
Bruh where's the New Vegas Hoover Dam spy
My boy rocking the bloodied stealth handmade build. I'm proud. Stay filthy my friend
Nice. Personally i ruin the plans for the captain of the Yangzee, because Nate is a soldier and literally saw the bombs that were launched from that very sub just a few weeks ago, the bombs that started his current living nightmare.
I can do roleplay better than bethesda can do writing.
He actually seems remorseful. I spare him and help him so he can go home and rebuild his home. I hate commies, but he is no longer an enemy and he did not start a fight.
Your character was no different to the Captain: two survivors of a pointless war long over. War caused the end, why continue the bloodshed over long dead nations?
The fact you can ruin it, is the roleplay you are asking for. FO4 is bad when it come to rpg mechanics, but you have the option. I personally can understand him. If I recall, he feels guilty, and that the whole war was pointless.
Hes not that different than the poor americans that committed brutal acts and died for some oil companies. (Im not american)
At the start of fallout 4 in nates speech he doesn't sound like he is pro war tbh.
Seriously where can we get the pip boy art of your videos?? Share I want that as a tattoo
I’m so glad he said Maryland right
I’ve always wondered why Chiba became the 2nd super power instead of the ussr
You missed the agents in New Vegas
Wait they had sweet and sour stroganoff? Nd one even batted an eye at that? Bro that some drunk stuff, the hell wouldn't anyone question that?
Vim Captains Blend.
'Nuff said.
Oh shit, new N_orte video just dropped
Wow, this is cool!
AND COOL HAT!
Ever since Subnautica i havent been able to bring myself to explore the ocean in video games even in Minecraft lmao
Huh.
My biggest disappointment in fallout is the lack of oceanic combat. With all the corpses of mutated dolphins on the beaches of the commonwealth, I spent at least an hour swimming around trying to find what took a bite on my first playthrough.
Then there's the disappointment of the pointless piping on the sea floor....
It's crazy how many people play Fallout, and somehow miss the point of "war is bad and the greed of nations will end the world" and then go parrot propaganda in real life.
Hahah big green guy wants milk lmao 😂😂
Most fallout fans are weird, don't expect them to understand philosophy or history, most of them are just rednecks or weirdos who live in their mom's basements.
I really do think about the other country’s and how they thought
what best time to watch this video then 4th of july? lol
Yeah
Almost as if the writers were trying to tell us something.....
Chinese spies in the american system, large rich corpo chinese traitors, China mobilizing on to American soil through businesses, owning land before any conflict or war is started, American traitors tempted with nice words and bribes, China have full control over many different production lines of America (Made In China)
@@spider-spectre are you ignoring the fact the USA wasn't the good guy in Fallout? The Enclave, various horrifying projects, rampant poverty and evil companies...
@@Autumn_Actually Remove "in fallout"
@@Autumn_Actually Authoritarian governments are the problem. What point are you trying to make? That the Chinese are the good guys? Regardless of what you think of America in Fallout or irl, if YOU are an American, why would you want to be at the mercy of an invader? You literally have a better chance with the Enclave, Vaults etc. than getting shot on sight by a Chinese soldier yelling "Sǐguǐ lǎo!"
@@Autumn_Actually The game is telling you to not be a sellout, that America has become a sellout to its values to a quick buck, utilizing Chinese slave labor for cheap products which Americans are addicted to consuming thus work endlessly to buy dumb cheap plastic and useless gadgets. And through this, the corrupt have taken power with great funds, those with sadistic, self centered, narcissistic views now control the workings of government and the biggest businesses. Corrupt AMericans who betray their people for selfish benefit are the Enclave, Vault Tec, Worker corps like Hornwright, who fed off and even benefited from the conflict with China, taking the fear and propaganda to allow them free reign on how to steer the country.
Thanks for this one. I sometimes wonder about the enemy. Also didn't know about the Pitt thing
*your enemies enemy
I was trying to find our where that fucking whirring sound was coming from for the first 5 minutes of this video. Audio is a bit fucked.
"Who but China knows where China is and has been?"
The Zetans. The Zetans *ALWAYS* know!
There just needs to be a fan made fallout just slapped with a generic name
"Where was China?'
Oh I dunno m8, somewhere out East I reckon.
*laugh track and clapping with woops and hollers*
Heheh thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week.
I love your videos cuh
His voice sounds different I'm this one???
Seems in the fallout universe the neo liberal hegemom needed the same type of boogeyman that our universe did. Red scare, death squads, cold War turned hot.
Shut up! Scum Comunist! >:v!
You know?
Canadian a?
its zao not žau
I love roleplaying like a Chinese communist in fallout 4
Where was the Kuomintang during all of this? Wouldnt they help in tje conflict or wouldve been in US propaganda
For the Algorithm! Lol good vid.
"Where did that guy even come from"
Thats how the *REDS* are y'know... he was probably your neighbor... cant trust anyone these days. Stay vigilant, patriot
Love your shit my guy!!!
I was hoping he’d put a trump meme when he said China
I like the one that's done with cheetos.
Dude same 😂
I wanna play as the honorable communist China in fallout 5. Long live communism! 👻
Honorable and communist aren’t words that go together
@@Cat-uv7dy but every Fallout game lets you play as a good communist.
By letting ones health points reach 0.
@Cat-uv7dy I think you are confused communist is a form of goverment that puts community above all else. Capitalism is the true evil as they put money above all else case and point 26k die every year from lack of medical coverage in america cuz they cant afford it. Take care comrade.
Booo! Booo! Booo communism!
@@GH0STUN1T the taxes that fund those programs were voted for democratically. And when taxes are raised that is voted on as well. DEMOCRATICALLY.
420th like.