Why Patriots Coaches Fail Outside of New England: Bill Belichick's Complicated Coaching Tree
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Bill Belichick is undeniably one of the greatest coaches in NFL history, but in comparison to some of the other most iconic coaches of the past, Belichick's coaching tree pales in nearly every way. This video covers the underwhelming nature of Belichick's disciples as well as reasons they've failed to replicate the dynasty New England has built over the past two decades, highlighting the two most infamous examples in Matt Patricia and Bill O'Brien.
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Yes, Brian Flores is doing well in Miami (and may get a video of his own after the season) and the jury is out on Joe Judge in NY. I'm rooting for them too, but judging from those who came before out of the Belichick tree, they still have their work cut out for them.
EDIT: Mike Vrabel was never a part of Bill Belichick's coaching staff, please stop asking why he isn't in the video lol
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@@alexjames5526 Only as a player
You mentioned Judge and Flores in the video. You shouldn't have to mention them in a pinned comment lol
We all know that you only didn't mention Mike Vrabel in this video because you're afraid he would beat you up
He was part of Bill O’Brian’s coaching staff so yes he is a part of the tree
“The jury is out on Joe Judge” I see what you did there
There's an important point you glossed over. In typical Emperor Palpatine fashion he'll never teach his apprentices all the tricks because he doesn't want them to someday challenge him on even footing
The short-sleeve hoodie is the essence of dark side football couch.
Lmaoo, also everyone’s minds are different. He just seems to be a genius who knows how to play to his strengths
Bellicheck ain't shit without Tom Brady. Brady was like a coach on the field and gave the team confidence. He'd be lucky to have one ring without Brady.
A good Sensei never teaches their pupils EVERYTHING they know.
Like how Mike Vrabel using his tricks against him last year
Everyone mentioning Joe Judge and Brian Flores are proving to the world they commented before watching the video
The Chad reasoned take vs the Virgin first impression
He hit the nail on the head. In the future, Matt Patricia and Bill O'brien will get highlighted for flunking out of their towns in the same season. But, given that both those teams are now being revealed to have player attitude problems, perhaps the culture was just too broken to fix. Where as, Judge and Flores have adopted much younger teams/players, yet to reach a stagnant rut.
@@thedarkemissary Flores did not adopt a young team, he and Grier had to tear down the team first, before building the young team you see today and it will get younger next season with the draft thanks to BoB.
Especially since Flores is in the same division as Bill
You can't take losers and make them winners
Patricia inherited a playoff team.
After the “posture” press conference, a Detroit newspaper had a picture of stafford flat on his back, after a sack, with a caption of “Nice posture.”
When Bill gets tossed down the reactor shaft, we all know Disney just going to write him back to life.
😂😂😂😂
God damn you for predicting the future with Mac. You’ve cursed us all.
This aged too well...
@zyzz lives in all of us haha for real.
We've gotten reports from a Patriots spy it confirms the worst somehow Bill Belichick returned.
I’ve never actually heard Patricia’s voice until now; he sounds nothing like how I’d expect
Me too, expected his voice to be a lot deeper. Kinda the same situation with OSU's Ryan Day lol
I thought the same thing! I think I first heard him talk at the senior bowl
Ikr
It's the beard, his actual face matches his voice
Kind of like General Patton. For some reason I thought he would sound gruff like George C. Scott in the movie Patton, but nope, not at all.
I thought Flores would flame out in Miami like every other coach, and I still don't have a damn clue how he turned a dumpster fire defense into #1 overall in 2020
Brian Flores is a fantastic defensive coordinator. He unloaded overpriced underperforming players into draft capitol and acquired really good former Patriots. Makes sense to me.
Easy....Brady left the AFC.
Seriously though the rebuild was already started when the interim coach took over year before last thinking 🤔 it was the defensive coordinator for the fins.
Flores got rid of ALOT of fluff players and brought that next man up mentality you hear it and see it at Miami.
Remember when the Pats won their first SB with a group of nobody's? And the rest is history.
@@Dadolphinsmakemecry We didn't have an interim coach between Adam Gase and Flores.
@@Dadolphinsmakemecry with a group of nobody's and the refs.
I think it's the difference between a coach who embraces the talent that he has to work with (Flores) versus what Miami had previously in a coach who pushed 90% of their talented players out the door (Gase). Flores seems to have the ability to tap into what makes his players tick, what gets them going.. they fight for him.
"Help me Eli Manning you're my only hope"😂😂😂
Bill Belichick wasn't like that at the start of the dynasty. He wasn't as strict, he was more loose, and he had some splash signings early on. He had to earn what they eventually became and he built the so called Patriot way over time. It became a well oiled machine as the years and wins went on. Now, any player comes in ready to work and knows what's expected, but that kind of respect can't happen overnight. Plus, Bill had Tom Brady who embodied his philosophy and led the team to buy in. That's why what Matt Patricia did and acted like was so ridiculous. He comes in like he owns the place and hasn't won shit as a head coach. These coaches try to emulate Bill so much that they think the respect that the league has for him just comes along with their imitation. You have earn it as Bill did. That's why I'm glad to see Flores finding his own way and kicking ass in Miami.
I think it was more Tom Brady way
bro good comment, such good points, Josh Mcdaniels acted just like Patricia when he got that Job in Denver and admits he was dumb for being that way lol Anyways great comment and it is very interesting to watch Bill now without Tom.
The Flores point didn’t age well
@@Somewheredownintexas Well, based on what we understand at this time, it doesn't look like a lot of what happened in Miami was on Brian Flores. Assuming some of the stuff we're hearing is true, the best we can say is that Dolphins management did him dirty.
I completely disagree. He's more loose now. He was much stricter then.
Bill Walsh has the craziest coaching tree. Literally like 40 former and current HC either directly came from Bill Walsh's staff or from coaches who coached under Bill Walsh. Pete Carroll, Sean Payton, Mike Holgren, Andy Reid, Mike Tomlin, Tony Dungy, Jon Gruden, Mike Shanahan etc....
That why Wlash is my GOAT coach
@@dewanewelch1744 dennis green was also on bill walsh's staff, he was the qb/wr coach may both rest in peace
lot of superbowl winners there huh
And Tomlin has successfully sawed off his branch of that tree
Why does matt Patricia looks like he orders a whopper everyday then drives his bmx bike back home to go in his mother's basement to finish the 4th season of Naruto
Oddly specific
Why did I coincidentally run into you here and saw you in Dofu stream chats
Cmon now that’s ridiculous... he’s only on season 3
Diesel patches
Why do I feel attacked
The clip at 11:16 is actually hilarious. It’s bill complaining about daylight savings time because he can’t figure out how to change the clock on his car.
🤣🤣🤣
@@damienwhited87 my coworker and friend is actually jamie collins' cousin he said bill used to crack jokes like that all the time...he'd actually would joke with players during the off season....he had a dry wit sense of humor....the thing with his coordinators is that they dont understand human behavior or how to relate to players....every successful nfl coach the legends all had sense of humors and could crack jokes, they understand how tough it is to be a player so they understand its ok to relax and have fun after working hard on the gridiron
"Suffering for the sake of suffering."
The irony of this is that that is what being a Lions fan is like.
"Eli Manning, your my only hope"
Lmao
You’re
@@alexandriaocasio-smollett5078 Damn you’re lucky if you even got friends who genuinely like you.
@@cam42704 I don’t. I’ve come to terms with it. So it’s all good man.
@@alexandriaocasio-smollett5078 damn are we in english class? We taking a test or something?
@@thenickfoxx When did someone correct me though?
This video is summed up by that scene in Iron Man 1
Iron Monger: Tony Stark built this in a cave! With a box of scraps!
Scientist: Well, I'm sorry Mr. Stane, I'm not Tony Stark.
The same thing can be said about all of Sabin's assistant coaches. They aren't Sabin. Neither are Belichick's assistants. They aren't them. That's why they fail.
Fun fact: The Scientist is played by Ralphie from A Christmas Story
Ironically enough, Saban was an assistant for Belichick that obviously went on to succeed.
@@zachwachter8214 he wasn't a Patriots assistant though, was he?
@@blakeharris58 with the browns
Sabin is the opposite. He takes coaches off the scrap heap and plugs them right in and rehabs their rep.
brady did make everything easier, his effect on the culture, with his elite skills on the field, and his ability to make useful less than perfects players
“They are moving on from the end of an era and it is going to take time”
Me: Sitting here trying to comprehend how they just completed a 1 year rebuild
Remember all that money they spent during Free agency?
“The Empire has fallen, commence Operation Cinder”
-Bill Belichick
Operation cinder will only last for one season and after that I do see bill coming back to make the rest of the NFL hell again
@@attiepollard7847 I can't see the Pats being that dominant again. They don't really have a good receiver core, no Brady, right now they don't even have a competent QB and Cam is probably not the best fit with Belichick's system, and they most likely gonna trade Gilmore but if not, he's unlikely to stay and his contract expires next year. Other top corners like Jalen Ramsey, Marlon Humphrey and Tre’Davious White already signed extensions with their teams.
There will be a lot of free agent QBs and some big name receivers this offseason, but many of them expected to resign with their current teams. And without Brady, the Patriots has lost a good part of their appeal to free agents.
@@attiepollard7847 damn you kinda called it, one season then back to the playoffs… but the bills made light work of the pats so 🤷♂️
As a lions fan, my middle finger has never come up faster than when Patricia first came into the video.
For a defensive “genius” it’s mind boggling how bad he’s made our defense.
I never really understood the whole Lions strategy of hiring defensive coaches to coach a team that clearly has most of its talent on the offensive side.
Its like "Hmm, our top players are Stafford, Calvin Johnson, Kennny Golladay etc. so lets hire a defensive coordinator to be our head coach to maximize their talents, that makes sense."
@@koonteriskool honestly I agree with every word you just said
I sympathize I'm a Broncos fan and we had to deal with little dictator Josh Mc Daniels
@@koonteriskool thank you buddy. That was such a good description of the lions and the way they’ve worked in the last decade plus
As a follow-up, can we also have a video explaining the large disparity between Bill's abysmal record against former coaches vs everyone else?
Everyone always forgets that Belichick earned the respect the patriots give him. He was much looser and much more easy going earlier on in his patriots career. The difference is that he didn’t demand perfection until his team reached that level.
In the almost undefeated 2007 season he ripped into his team after every victory. Every small mistake he saw was emphasized in the film room on Monday. Brady and his teammates said that it was the players getting their “humble pie”. And by that point the players already respected and trusted Bill’s coaching. And because the veterans (especially Brady) respected Bill’s coaching, new players would fall in line.
I'm curious about how his son Steve might fare on his own one day
Not until he cuts off that mullet
@@bookswithbenjamin8902 but it's the patriot way
you talk about him like he's the next king of an ancient kingdom
@@11conormcloughlin I was trying to decide whether Steve would take over the patriots after Bill, or if he would go to a different team
It's rumored he's playcalling for the defense now and sounds EXACTLY like his dad. Scary thought.
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Having the greatest and most competitive QB of all time helps too
Well Brian Flores got the axe guess that's one more for the history books.
I'd argue that Belichick didn't begin to find real success until he figured out he couldn't be Bill Parcells. While Belichick held on to some of the Parcells' type of interactions with players, he modified it to fit his personality. More than anything, Belichick simply knows more football than just about any current head coach. He's a huge student of the game, and is more of a collaborative leader than some may think. Belichick is the only NFL coach I can think of who will change his offensive and defensive schemes to fit the players he has rather than try to make square pegs fit in round holes. That takes a kind of knowledge and confidence most HCs simply don't have, and Belichick doesn't seem to have any interest whatsoever in people reveling in how much of a genius he is. Flores, to his credit, seems to have come into Miami not trying to be a Belichick clone, and perhaps it's the same for Judge.
It's also interesting that Romeo Crennel didn't seem to be worth mentioning. And, based, on his coaching record, perhaps really appropriate.
And a year after this comment, both head coaches were fired, Joe Judge failing miserably
@@thomass7466 romeo crennell's issue he tried to stray away to the point he wouldnt even run the same defense as he did in new england...he didnt run any hybrid 3-4/4-4 schemes and just ran soft 3-4 storm ...and matt patricia is an idiot.....beliecheck never did any of them things....you can see this when his teams celebrate with him ...in fact beliecheck is one of the coaches who allow players to have fun as long as they work hard
its like matt, josh, and matt focused on the "work hard' mentality, first off beliecheck is seen running and working out as hard as his players, how are you gonna talk about "hard work" when youre riding on a quad like matt was? bill o'brien's issue was he was trying to "build like beliecheck" he doesnt have the clout belicheck had....
belicheck never would trade an elite moss for an injury prone wr, outside of football o'brien was a really good guy, donated millions to charities (including black lives matter) but hes a terrible headcoach and gm
I like how he never accounts for the "Rule of the Two" that is created by the Sith. Only Kraft and Belichek can succeed in football until one of them gets overthrown by one of their apprentices.
Bill and Tom imo but yes
Looks like that has already happened with Flores. Seeing how he was the one that kept the Patriots from getting a first round bye last season which knocked them out of the playoffs in the wildcard round. And then this year Flores was the one that eliminated the Patriots from playoff contention and also made sure the Patriots couldn't finish with a winning record for the first time in 20yrs.
It seems to be happening more and more. Vrabel's Titans beat the Patriots in 2018 and the 2019 playoffs, as did O'Brien's Texans in '19, Patricia's Lions in '18, and Flores' Dolphins (split season series) in '19 and '20.
Kraft is best friends with goddell so it’s no surprise they are successful
@@wisewolftony Flores is maul he’s his own man now not part of the sith no more
Good lord that joe judge & brain flores part aged sooo well
Your videos are absolutely amazing, the editing and the scripts are the best I've seen in a while. Thanks a lot and keep it up.
12:42 For anyone talking about Flores and Judge who didn't make it to the end of the video
You mentioned Mike Holmgren after Walsh, when Mike was a part of Walsh's tree as far back as 1986, which goes back to Paul Brown.
It’s crazy to me how connected some of the best coaches are. It’s pretty cool to think about.
@@EJD339 - Yes.
Walsh was the OC for Cincinnati in the 70's. When Brown retired and the promoted the DC instead of Walsh, Bill left to the NCAA and Stanford. Meanwhile, the Bengals continued to use his playbook. When SF hired Walsh and Super Bowl 16 was 49ers vs Bengals, it was pretty much the same teams in a mirror match.
Sam Wyche was the backup QB for Walsh in the 70's and later became his assistant HC with SF. Wyche would then become the Bengals HC in the mid 80's and would face Walsh in Super Bowl 23. Again, the system and styles would face off in a mirror match.
Bill Walsh got his NFL start with the Raiders and gives a lot of credit to Al Davis, including how to run practice and many other ideas. Mike Shanahan worked for Al Davis and the Raiders before going to the 49ers and learned under Walsh as well. Shanahan was the OC for the 49ers after Holmgren left and helped SF with the Super Bowl in 1994 before going on to coach the Broncos.
As a result, the Packers vs Broncos Super Bowl was essentially two 49ers and Bill Walsh coaching tree teams facing off in yet another mirror match.
Kyle Shanahan, Mike's son, faced off just this Feb. 2020 against Andy Reid in a third generation of that Walsh coaching tree and similar schemes/concepts/philosophies.
Yes, the game has adapted over the decades, but the core principals have remained. WR route combinations, QB triangle reads, approaches to practice, scripting plays and so much more all came from a combination of All Davis, Paul Brown and Bill Walsh.
@Harry Engel Paul Brown and his impact upon the league is totally underappreciated
@@paulgaither you say mirror teams, but didn't the Bengals lose? By record setting proportions?
@@fuckgoogle6716 - No, that was Denver who lost 55-10 and was coached by Dan Reeves... which is funny, because Reeves would later coach the Falcons and go to the Super Bowl against his former team (Denver) which was led by Mike Shanahan of the Bill Walsh tree. So, both times he made it to the big show, he had to face the Walsh tree and got smashed. Poor guy. He was a good coach.
Super Bowl 16 had a final score of 26-21. The 49ers had a crucial goal line stand in the third quarter. Look it up. It was a good game.
Super Bowl 23 was the epic come back by SF and the throw to John Taylor.
Great analysis, but the video shots are put together in such a humoristic way ! Loved it !
I loved the imperial march in the begining of the video. Good touch sir. Also this video earned my sub to you
Tedy Bruschi when he was first hired to be a tv analyst this was one of the first questions I remember him being asked. Bruschi said the only two coordinators who went into the office with Bill to come up with the game plan with him were Charlie Weis and Romeo Crennel. According to Bruschi after Weis and Crennel left Bill did the game plan alone, none of the other "coordinators" participated in making the game plan for the upcoming game.
It wouldn't be the first time a coaching legend doesn't have a good coaching tree. How many of Vince Lombardi's assistants became great coaches? Were there any good ones under George Halas (I can think of George Allen but that's it). That would have been something to mention briefly. Bill Walsh wanted to be a teacher to his assistant coaches because of his experience with Paul Brown with the Bengals because he believed Brown undercut potential head coaching opportunities for him by trashing him. I am curious if Belichick has that same belief or does he think his assistants need to learn it on their own. But I'm also surprised you didn't mention that Belichick's first head coaching job with the Browns.
To be fair, Halas had Joe Stydahar (coach of the 1951 NFL champion Los Angeles Rams) and George Wilson (coach of the 1957 NFL champion Detroit Lions).
The success of Patriots way was based on one simple key, Bill Belichick had Tom Brady in the locker room and the field, Brady's leadership got other players bought in to the system..
to continue the Mike Holmgren line. Holmgren got his foot in the door as an offensive coordinator under George Seifert, who came to prominence as a defensive coordinator under Bill Walsh, who came to league attention and refined the West Coast Offense as a coordinator under Paul Brown. That means that there is a branch involving five championship head coaches that came from the mighty oak of Paul Brown.
As a texans fan. Really accurate description of Bill O'brien, you deserve a lot of credit for this vid
Josh Mcdaniels literally fits both of these reasons. Dude had a huge ego when he went to the Broncos and thought his way was the only way.
Started off 6-0 and ended 9-7 in 2009. Boy was he wrong lol
yet for some reason people think he'll be a good coach in 2020-21 😑
He also accepted the Colts head coaching job then backed out like a little girl and I'm a Broncos fan he was a little dictator here and was caught spying on another team
@@rocknroll7065 what is hilarious about mcdaniels backing out of being the head coach is that Bilicheck did the exact same thing to the Jets years ago, but at least bill did it AT the press conference.
Mcdaniels is like a little kid holding onto his parents pockets so they don't get separated.... it's also funny how much his name was being thrown around when the giants were looking to fill their head coach position... and he was in no way even a blip on the giants radar. What he did in indianapolis effectively killed off any chance of him being an nfl head coach ever again. You know you royally screwed up when the Browns don't even want to hire you
@@retrogamernes3121 you are very accurate
The reasoni find it funny in a dark humor way is because im a Broncos fan and Mc Daniels was the coach but i also blame upper management
Excellent analysis.
If nothing else, this is a very well done video. On top of that, it's a nice analysis.
i do be loving these uploads
I love these uploads. *
@@Tres_Nueve Nope what he is saying is grammatically correct. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitual_be
McDaniel's time in Denver was a blight on the franchise
Yes! Arguably the greatest single-season collapse of all time! Went from ahead 3.5 games with 10 games to go to *losing* the division by *5 games!* That's an 8.5 game swing in *ten games* (from 6-0 to 8-8)! Ugh!
And the worst is that that blight is not even an aberration when it comes to Belichick's coaches! McDaniels is but *one* former Belichick coach who *badly embarrassed* franchises and set them back indefinitely!
Romeo Crennel's single season with the Chiefs was one in which he took a team that had *six* Pro Bowlers (yes, the Chiefs had *six* players make the Pro Bowl in Crennel's one season in charge of them. For perspective, the last 7 years, the average number of Pro Bowlers on *Super Bowl* winning teams was *4.71,* including *six* on the *Chiefs* Super Bowl LIV winning team- tying a franchise record that was set the year of, you guessed it, Crennel's time in charge!) and won *two games,* making us the worst team in the league and tying the franchise record for *worst season!*
I don't think I need to go into Eric Mangini's failure with the Jets! You all know the story (another one of the largest single-season collapses of all time in '08-'09)!
Then, of course, there's the coaches STE mentioned in the video and how they've likely set their franchises back *many years!*
Again, these are all coaches who were known for building units that won *multiple* Super Bowls (Crennel's defense won 3 Super Bowls with the Patriots. McDaniels' offense won 6 Super Bowls with the Patriots. Patricia's defense won 2 Super Bowls with the Patriots. Do I need to continue?), considered the "greatest minds in football," and yet, leaving New England *badly* exposed them as some of the most mediocre football minds!
It's almost like all that cheating we keep discovering Belichick and Co. have committed isn't simply an afterthought! Like that's the *entire reason* they've fooled us into believing these godawful football minds have *any* amount of competence!
www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/13533995/split-nfl-new-england-patriots-apart
Same with Patricia with the lions
His belichick jr ahole approach to fans, media and players was childish and incompetent.
@@mazdakmina9493 Actually it does not even qualify for one of the biggest collapses.
@@tombondcrispy6585 Gimme a break!!!! When did Detroit last win? Oh, yeah, when they had Bobby Lane in 1955. Try harder, you guys have been terrible for decades.
I think Vrable is a great coach, but i understand why he isn’t in the video since he wasn’t on Bill’s coaching tree but he’s definitely learned a lot from him. Great video!
Finishing your analysis with Bill and his elderly Father getting doused by Victory Gatorade is iconic & a well-deserved, fortunate family-trope. Gratitude
I am a simple man. I see Belichick I click.
Cole Adams the legend himself and one the biggest pats fans
Smart man
what's good Cole
I am a simple man, I see belichick I think of cheating, an all time qb playing way under market value forever and an unlikeable SOB
@@kalleknall7804 hahaha stay mad son.
I think you're missing a key point here. In the early days of the Patriots dynasty, Belichik could've flopped just as hard if it hadn't been for the Parcells-era players that were already there. Parcells had just similar enough of an approach that it wasn't a huge culture shock when Bill came in.
Patricia jumped the gun on trying to build the culture before he had the players, but Bill never had that problem.
Bill Parcels drafted Drew Bledso, the 100 million dollar man Bledsoe. Belichick drafted Tom Brady even though thy had two back up quarterbacks, he wasn't looking for a quarter back, when he saw he was still on the Board at 199. Most teams keep 2 or sometimes 3 quarterbacks on the active roster, but Belichich drafted him as a fourth QuarterBack, and as they say "THE REST IS HISTORY" Bill Parcells left Patriots in 1996, in 1997 Pete Carroll took over you think He stood Pat with the same team.
great video as usual
Great great breakdown of the BB 🌳
Patricia asking a grown man to sit up right before speaking to him 🤣😂💀
I can't imagine him as a dam coach 🤯
They fail because they do not have Tom Brady making all those plays in the clutch, and providing leadership and that commitment to winning, and a culture of excellence. This is also the same reason why Bill Belichick also has a LIFETIME LOSING COACHIN RECORD without Tom Brady on the Field, and covering up for all of the talent deficiencies around him.
Meanwhile Tom Brady proved that he will still win anyway regardless of Bill Belichick, and regardless of any coaching tree is involved.
Great video brother
Economics value understanding is on another level combined w the greatest football mind & all the slick tricks & clutch kicks
So essentially the patriots were the perfect storm from getting the best quarterback ever, who was essentially a coach on the field and took pay cuts so the rest of the team would stand under salary and foster its winning culture, an owner who was willing to let the coach be the GM, and the G.O.A.T. Coach.
Simple answer: They couldn't take Brady with them.
Well, it wasn't just Brady
EXACTLY Seth
No it was Brady..and the way he demanded everyone to get on the same page..👍👍
No lol
Isn’t like Watson and Stafford aren’t good BOB and Patricia straight up failed them
Great insight.
I am a huge Patriots, Brady, & Belichick fan but I always liked thinking of them as the empire. Good choice of background music!
Nice work. I just want to add one thing. Belichick has been exceptional with identifying role players. This allows him to be specific with his roster moves. He always knows what he gets from a player and what he needs to replace.
Reason I say this is that I believe he hires coaches the same way. They are all amazing in their roles as coordinators. Belichick gives them limited responsibility and the succeed because they were set up to do so.
Pretty sure you got the most important parts in there though.
Mike Vrabel: because they weren't good students.
very true... I think Vrabel is doing a damn good job in TN
@@CSRookie yeah but one thing i don’t understand is mike was supposed to be a defensive coach but you see how that played out #1 offense #32 defense
the one thing about Vrabel is that he was only a player for the Patriots. His assistant coaching career started elsewhere. That said, he's surely picked up a few things from his time as a player.
@@johnchedsey1306 you best believe Vrabel remembers the playbook from when he played for them. When the Titans faced the Patriots last year, Vrabel had Bill's number, and everyone knew it.
Great video.
Great Take......👍
Who's here after Joe Judge got fired, another one of his assistants bit the dust
We may need to keep an eye on Brian Daboll, he will more than likely be offered a HC position after the type of year he has had as an OC with the Bills.
Didn't happen in the 2020 offseason, but if Daboll succeeds in rehabbing Mitch Trubisky over the 2021 season (and that second preaseason game was a good starting point), then a head coaching job is all but guaranteed in his future. The only real questions are "Will he take Mitch with him to the new team?" and "Will he wait to get the Bills a Super Bowl ring before leaving?"
Dude this page is just amazing football content.
I noticed coach Belichick watching hagler vs hearns in the background. Great fight!
"are these two going to be exceptions..."
1 year later and they're both fired 😂
Joe Judge proved to be nothing more than skinny Matt Patricia.
The Lions firing Jim Caldwell was the dumbest move of the the past decade!
No. Caldwell was better than Patricia but he was going nowhere with Detroit.
@@odysseus2656 that's because Detroit is going nowhere
@@odysseus2656 Ya it’s who they hired. Patricia’s hiring is an example of why you get a close look at a guys persona to see if it’s actually his or someone else’s at the Job Interview.
@ Rob Freedman have you heard of a certain franchise in Cleveland by chance?
@@lonmurphy4698 I like the Browns because they're underdog organization like my Cardinals!
Would you consider doing something about the Andy Reid coaching tree? It's always kind of amazing how many successful head coaches get their shot after being mentored by him (Reich and Harbaugh come readily to mind).
And Sean McDermott, and Ron Rivera, and Doug Pederson!
Combined with Harbaugh, that's two coaches that *won* Super Bowls, one coach that won the NFC (with a 15-1 record, nonetheless) and took his team *to* the Super Bowl, and one who took an awful Bills franchise that hadn't made the playoffs in 17 seasons, and took them to the playoffs *three times* in *four years,* won them their *first* playoff game in over *twenty* seasons, and took them all the way to the *AFC Championship!*
In other words, yes, I 100% agree with you! I badly want to hear STE go into depth on why Andy Reid's coaches are so successful once they go on to be head coaches! :)
Good water-cooler banter.
Here after Brian Flores and Joe Judge were relieved of their duties.
Frank reich was first on the nfl scene as the bills backup QB in the 90s. He was the QB when the bills made a comeback after being down 35-3 at halftime in the 1993 wildcard vs the oilers
I mention this like 30 seconds later my guy
@@SetTheEdge I realized that later lol. I just immediately paused and made the comment.
I remember watching that game. Hell of comeback!
How about running a series about coaches and they coaching tree. Now that will be cool to find out where they learn the game from.
The part about Flores and Judge (commenting in February 2022) made me wince 😣😣
Flores has what it takes to be great and I’m rooting for him
Whoever said "wHat AbOuT bRiAn FloReS" clearly commented before watching the vids till end😭😂
I think one key quote is “I’ve taught you everything you know, but I did not teach you everything I know”. Sometimes pure geniuses are not great at explaining their genius onto others.
Along with other factors such as bill having complete control where a lot of his disciples didn’t. Bill having elite qb play consistently where a lot of others didn’t and lastly bill commands discipline and respect both because of his consistent behaviour throughout the lineup as well as finding players that will buy into that mentality. You can wear the sleeveless shirts and the visor caps and have the pencil on your ear but you can’t command the room like bill can.
Good video. 👍😄
Can u talk about Andy Reid’s coaching tree? That would be a great video
That's really an extension of the Bill Walsh coaching tree.
@@HP_____ what would make for a more interesting video? Andy Reid tree or Bill Walsh tree?
@@omgroony Both are great coaches and coaches of coaches! Bill Walsh was the originator of the westcoast offense and would encompass more of the lineage. And on film, Walsh was more verbally articulate, almost professorial so I can watch him talk football all day long!
Aaaaaannnd one year later, neither Flores nor Judge are coaching.
I think the biggest lesson is to be you as a coach, not the other guy. I’ve worked under a hall of fame high school coach and it drives me nuts when I hear younger coaches wanting to “do it like Mister.” Even when I’m working under the man, I bring my own personality and ideas and apply it to his program and workouts.
It's all about the QB. Brian Daboll is having success. But buffalo found a QB. Bill Belichick is a defensive genius. But the "patriot way" was always Brady's arm.
Wow for some reason I keep forgetting that Detroit fired Jim Caldwell so they could hire Matt Patricia. Not that there are any other similarities but it kinda makes me think of when Buddy Ryan was fired in 1990, and after all of our anticipation in the Delaware Valley that we’d get maybe Howard Schnellenberger (RIP, Coach) or even the young Jeff Fisher...we got...
Rich Kotite. Sigh.
Have to compliment on that thumbnail though, got belichick looking like Palpatine!! Appropriate.
2:25 I wasn’t looking at my phone while watching this part and I heard something very different
Seems kinda simple why, none of those assistants had Brady at qb. Bb is really good at coaching defense and Brady is really good at playing qb and clutch. So the defense always keeps the game in reach and gets clutch stops when they need to most and Brady always does the same for the offense. Plus they always had more cap money since Brady took less and bb used that as leverage to make the other players take less too.
Frank reich was oc in San Diego, considered for the Bill's head coach, etc all before he was in philly as oc. He didn't burst onto the nfl scene in philly...
More accurately, he became a name to fans in Philly.
Will you be doing a video on Coach Flo? Or you waiting till the end of the 2021 season to get a clear picture?
The Mike Holmgren tree actually starts with Bill Walsh. Holmgren was the QB coach under Bill Walsh when the 49ers won the Super Bowl in 1988. He then became OC under George Siefert in 1989, after Walsh retired. They went on to win the Super Bowl that year. Siefert was Defensive Coordinator under Bill Walsh for two Super Bowl wins in 1984 and 1988 before taking over as Head Coach and hiring Holmgren as OC. Without Walsh there's no Siefert or Holmgren. Walsh is the tree. The rest are branches. The group that branched out from Holmgren is pretty impressive. Andy Reid, John Gruden, and Doug Pederson have all won Super Bowls. Pretty impressive.
See y’all again in a month..
Tom Brady is not on their teams? He can only play for one team at a time.
Sorry to be completely off topic, but what is the name of the song He plays at the end of the video? I want to know!
Belicik coached the Browns from 1991 through 1995. His best year was 1994, with Testaverde at QB and a few ex Giants on his defense. The Steelers pounded them twice in less than a month during that season.
The fact that the words “they had Tom Brady” weren’t said 80 times on repeat, does detract from the video.
It’s bizarre you think 1 player makes an a tier team and franchise
@Chandler Russell thats fucking crazy cause they legitimately won 7 games without him and huge injuries on the defensive side of the ball. There’s literally 1 QB who has a winning record when having more turnovers than TDs and that’s Tom. Hell he had like 12 games like that in the playoffs alone. Stick Tom Brady on the Houston Texans right now and you’re saying they’re immediately Super Bowl contenders?
All of Belichick's coaches needed one player: Tom Brady.
Even Belichick needs Brady, cause bill sucks now...
@@thegoat5334 Riiiiight!!!!! LOL!
The person below me is a good person :D
Truer now more than ever
@@evanlarsen-chaney2301 thanks G, you pretty dope also
Good video l. 👍😊
0:00 I was just going to comment how Beli is looking like Palpatini on the thumbnail 😂😂😂
As a Lions fan, I approve of this video ... subscription earned my friend 👏🏾
this explains the boneheaded move Bill O Brien did when he traded DeAndre Hopkins
Hey Matt Patricia, respect has to be earned!
The sight of you in shorts means you have a lot further to go than most.
God damn! Everything about B O B was more than on the money! Good work
The title of this video should have been "Why Patriots coaches fail when Tom Brady isn't their QB".
People seem to forget that Belichick was a crap coach before he lucked out with Brady, but there about to be reminded now that Brady is no longer there.
Belichick's record as an NFL coach w/o Tom Brady at QB: 58-69
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Except he helped turn the patriots around and on track before Brady even got there
@@DreadPages No, he had a losing season year one. Year 2 drew got hurt super early in the season when they were 0-2 before Tom Brady.
@@DreadPages What are you talking about. Brady was the only star Belichick added to the teams that won those early SB’s. All the others were acquired by Carol and Parcells. NE hadn’t had a losing season the previous four years before Bill arrived and went 5-11. He was on his way out before Bledsoe got injured and Brady got his shot.
@@seriously6654 You can be great at coaching and have a brain of Einstein, but you NEED the players to execute plays properly and in a timely matter. People been defense/offense coordinators and the plays they put in for the players to know, they have to crack open the case. It isn't rocket science. If you have watched every single snap of the ball from Cam, Jarred, and that other jarhead, you can clearly tell the difference in between the minds of all the players that surround Cam. We have all seen his not-so great throws. His in-depth chart of him recognizing the fields and how far he should throw has significantly drop since he got released by the Panthers. I commented a while back of how we should utilize Cam and progress him more and more IN the pocket and what plays he can practice to be a better QB than the ones that are getting drafted this year. This is a different system and he is clearly not used to it. But it is a profession and it backs up a lot of arguments. Belichick should of already had a game plan when Brady was going to exit Foxborough. So why not draft a 2015 MVP QB? Sure enough of it was a while back but hell with it! He has a good name for himself than his other back ups for sure. So when you say Brady was the system, he had spent 20 years serving as a QB for the patriots without ever getting benched.