Michelin Road 5 FINAL Review 12,000km
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Michelin sent me a set of Road 5 Sport Touring tyres in 190/55/17 & 120/70/17 sizes for my 2006 Yamaha FZ1N. They lasted for 2 full seasons of touring and a total of over 12,000km.
Here's a round up of how I found the tyres overall.
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In case Michelin are reading this, I bought a set of Road5s on the strength of Andy's review! They have now done 3500 miles on the MT10 on various tours and I have to say, they are the best road tyre I think I've ever had! (and I've been riding 30 years). On a recent tour it was at least as "fast" as the Rosso3s and S21s on other bikes, and on other very wet tours, work better than any other tyre I've ever had in the wet. Super confidence inspiring and amazing wear (I usually get less than 3000 miles out of a road rear tyre, so these are into unknown amazing territory!!). They are not as sharp in profile as they were new, but are still very good, and as I said, usually, my tyres are done by this mileage. I'm expecting probably the same mileage again before they will need replacing. Can't recommend highly enough. Amazing tyres!!! :) (Michelin, send Andy another set, he must have made you loads of new/extra sales! ;) :) :D )
How long do you think they'll last? I have an FZ-09 and planning on buying these
@@alexanderswander8176 Well, I've done 5000 miles on them so far, and they look like they might even be only half worn. Usually, I don't get much more than 3000 out of a set, so these are already record breaking for me! :) (like it seems they were for Andy). I'd recommend these over pretty much everything else out there! :) (it will be interesting to see how Andy's new Avon Spirit STs turn out, and the new Bridgestone T32....)
I managed 12,000km on mine.
@@AndyManCam Yeah I see why they charge double the price now, because the tires last double the km. I thought about the dunlops and pirellis but for the price that it costs for someone to unmount, mount, and balance new tires I guess its better to spend the extra cash and get the better tires
Did you get a 190 50 17 or 190 55 17 size rear?
What a beautifully well presented, audible crystal clear video. Well done 👍🏻
Thank you most heartily Jim.
Thx for the great review. Will absolutely order a set to the bike.
My pleasure! Enjoy, I’m sure you will!
As I prepare to embark on my 8-10K mile (15000km) journey on a Ducati Hypermotard, I am seriously searching for a tire that will complete the journey without me needing to replace before I make it back to California. Looks like the Road 6 will be ordered and installed in a few weeks. Thanks for the wonderful review. I hope that I will be able to document half as well as you.
Just done 17500 miles on my road pilot 4, its a 100 mile motorway commute to work, it has worn out on the centre with them just being above the wear bar, with winter coming up I've decided to put a set of road pilot 5 on there, after looking at this review I'm glad I made the choice, let's see how long these last....
Cheers Steven. I wish you many happy miles with your new boots!
I have a set of road 5's on my Kawasaki versys 650 and they have lasted me a little over 13000 miles so far with a lot of tread left. Amazing tires and I don't think I'll ever put anything else on my sport bikes!
That's awesome!! Can't complain about that mileage. Especially if they've been good miles!
If you can get 2 seasons out of them then I'm in, changing my tyres around end of sept each year so fresh for the winter. These will work out cheaper in the long run. Great review as always 👍
It is impressive. Certainly puts the extra perceived cost into perspective.
I got 11.000 km out of my set. Marvellous performance from day 1 to the last. Great grip and neutral handling. Tread wear was not noticable towards the end. If it wasn't for the steep price i would have gotten another pair.
50 Euro difference to other tires, but double the performance.
I think its a bargain.
hi I'm in southern France here in summer it's 30/37 degrees and the road5 is less good it loses grip when it's hot, less than 28 degrees super ok, finally I put road5 back and before power GP
So I have heard. But then I guess you actually can't have everything after all! No such thing as the PERFECT tyre!
I had PR4s on my Versys, they worked marvelously on wet and pretty decent on dry. Then changed my front to Road 5 but sold the bike before I had time to seriously form an opinion and buy the rear as well. For what I gathered on couple of hundred kms on that front it was a better tyre on the dry but still a bit squirmy, and in the wet the front Road 5 was as good if not better than the old PR4. The main thing here is the longevity which is unprecedented and wet grip which is one of the best.
Now, I could put them on my GS when I destroy these Dunlop Trailsmart but I don't think I will. I'd like a bit fire road sand slide action so I think I'll try Dunlop Trailmax Mission, heard only positive things about them, especially longevity and road performance.
Rant complete, great review Andy as always! Cheers!
forgot add, great in wet or dry, loads of miles too ! didn't even square off after an 800 mile motorway/peage blast from uk to millau two up full luggage on my zzz 1400, a spirited ride to stop the boredom ! after two tours in Europe and 12,000 miles, not kilometres, I finally killed them and have changed them for the same again, not bad miles when you consider the weight and torque of the big zzr ! oh and about £100 cheaper than the Road 5 ...... ;)) good vid Andy
I'm really enjoying the Spirit ST's so far.
Just bought two sets of these for my ladies Street triple 765RS and a conversion set of wheel on her BMW 850GS, so far so good. Can't wait to see the life we get out of them. Great content as usual, cheers.
I reckon they'l last forever on a 765! Nice light bike. Unless the right hand is overkeen! 😜
I use the PR5s on my Honda Deauville which I use for commuting. The tyres, as you say, are just brilliant. I think the PR4s had marginally more grip on wet white lines. As to longevity, I get about 29,000km from the front and 24,000km from the rear, the Deauville isn't particularly quick 😀. As they are used only for commuting, they do square off quite a lot and it is quite noticeable towards the end of their life. They are worth every penny!
I'll be putting them on my FJR once the factory fitted Bridgestones have worn out.
If I were you and with the amount of riding in the rain we do in Europe, I'd put PR5s on again.
That's astonishing mileage! Michelin definitely seems like your brand then! R5's would be the sensible choice, but I didn't start youtube to be sensible!
Enjoyed that amc. I have 10k km on my Strom1000, and have had exactly the same experience as you. I've ridden loooong north american highway and curvy, rain, over 40C to 0C and never a shimmy, slip or adrenal squeezing moment have I had. There is no siginificant squaring - none that impacts the cornering yet. Judging by the wear, it looks like I'll get another 6000 on them. It is an outlay, but I have to say that not only are they the best tyres I've ridden on, they're also very good value for money over the life time. But best of all they stick like glue. My other bike, the Z900RS came with Dunlop Sportmax GPRs - and they are nervous and skitish in anything under 20C, frequently lighting up the abs and tc. I'll be replacing those asap with road 5s. Cheers.
So happy that my gushing is being backed up by the experience of others. Glad you’ve found your tyres BMR.
I had pilot 4 on my st1300 and was really impressed..Two days ago had the 5 fitted to my nc750..can't wait to try them..!!
Andy,. I'm about to get an H-D Iron 883, and as an auto mechanic along with being a first generation German/American, I've learned to recognize real quality. These road 5's were emphatically recommended to me. Loved your "no baloney" review of these tires. The fact that you were aggressively digging into the tires as you rode on them to prove the point of "good as new even when worn"! Keep up the great content quality, it makes a BIG difference! Doug, in the U.S. 🏍️⭐👍🦁🐻
Changing for a new set this week. I got 16.210 km out of mine, on my ZX10-1200cc. Superb tires, riding in all kinds of weather. And i'm a pretty aggressive rider.
Good work! Awesome that you’ve found the tyre for you!
I had road 2 2ct back in 2011 and I kept buying them. 17,000 miles on the back and 23,000 miles on the front. I rode all weather. It’s about being smooth and not hammering on the brakes. I sold my bike in 2013 (K1200S) and I’m buying a new BMW next year. I’ll definitely try the new road 5s.
Totally agree. I think the fact that after nearly 7000 km on my new bike, that I still haven't seen the traction control light, shows that I'm doing something right with the smoothness! The Road 5's won't disappoint. I'm also trying out the Avon Spirit ST's right now and so far very pleasantly surprised.
Well, after having done much research and also watching your review, I installed a set on my Yamaha FJ-09 (MT09 tracer). I immediately found them very smooth, nimble and sticky. Awesome tires mate.
Nice one! No surprise to me there mate! I told you they were good! 👍🏻
Did you see a difference between the michelin and the stock rubbers?
@@alexanderswander8176 the Michelin Road 5 had a lot more grip, even in colder weather 👍
@@Viper6-MotoVlogger You never had an fishy experiences like fishtails? I was scared a little the other day after I drove over a wet patch and fishtailed. Felt like I was riding a bull.
@@alexanderswander8176 yes I have many times with my other Dunlop sport Max tires 😁
I’m glad you posted this review, as I was looking to see what tires to install on my Yamaha FJ-09 (MT09 Tracer). The Dunlops sportmax that are currently on the bike, have 13k kilometres, but they do take time to warm up so you have to be careful. Be safe mate.
Thanks mate. The R5‘s always seemed to be pretty sticky, pretty quickly.
I also have the Road 5 in my GSX 1400. And they are absolutely the best tires I have ever ridden. They work well on a track day even. Regards from Sweden
Glad to hear it! Seems they work well on so many bikes!
Thanks for doing this video, Mate. I'me getting a set fixed today and I can not wait to see how they do for me. Cheers!
My pleasure! Enjoy your new rubber. They're amazing!
Great video. I had the same thing happen on my 2020 Triumph T-120 where the front wore out 3,500 miles before the rear and I’ve owned a dozen motorcycles over the past 30+ years and that’s a first!
Glad to know that its not just me!
Still loving mine andy, put them on last July & have done a brisk track day at donington & some very wet riding in between. Not sure on mileage without looking but I’ve done a fair few thousand & they still look fairly new. Not the cheapest tyres I’ve ever bought (£250) fitted but will definitely be buying the same again. Absolutely 100% confidence in them wet or dry.👍🏍
Glad to hear it Si. I’m sad that i didn’t get to try them on track. Certainly not the cheapest, but smiles per pound, very reasonably priced!
Germany Yessss!! Now this is a review. I'm out of the saddle for a bit so your video was enjoyable. What awesome country. I'm running the Anakee Wilds on my Super Tenere. I'm going to wear them out then swap over to the Road 5's for paved riding.
Thanks very much Christopher. Always happy to help in your time of need!
And I see you've gone back to a Satnav, after the epic and most enjoyable meltdown post NC500 ride home.
Only as backup! Once i was done and suitably lost, it just allowed me to plug in home and hit go! But the power cut out several times on the way home and i wanted to throw it in the sea again. So it’s days may yet be numbered!
You'll end up going back to an old school paper map if this keeps up. (but with your rain summoning abilities, maybe not!)
I’m seriously considering it!
I think it’s a ploy by the manufacturers to put less rubber on the front now. I have the Road 5’s on my Z1000SX and truly loved them. I fitted the R5’s at 4044 and currently I am at 12775. My tyres pretty much look like yours Andy. The tyres are still legal (ish) and I’m planning on changing them this coming week. I would like to stay with the R5’s but I had the Pirelli Angel GT’s on a previous SX and got over 8000 miles from them, so I might try the Pirelli Angel GT 2’s next. I hate the look of the Roadtec 01’s cause as we all know, they have to look nice on the bike. I apologise to the folk that like them. They are meant to be exceptional tyres.
I also have a Z1000SX. I bought mine with a set of Maxxis rubbers. I'm still getting to know the bike so I am not pushing it extra hard but I don't trust my tyres as of yet and will change them soon. I'm still undecided about what I will choose thought.
I reckon you can’t really go wrong at the top end. I’m keen to see if the 01‘s can live up to the R5s
I actually went for Michelin Pilot Power 2CT”s. The SX is the toy in the garage as I have a Tiger XRT for touring. I’ll not expecting the tyres to last more than 5k but they will be fun miles (I hope).
Just got these fitted to my MT07, first change from new off the forecourt (bridgestone battleax). Glad to hear I made a good choice!
Hope they work (and last) as well for you as they did for me! 👍🏻
I'm Just about to change my Michelin 5s for the same again done 9000 miles kawasaki sx 1000 though all of Wales forest roads ,mountain single file roads lots of B roads an motorway riding some a bit suspect patches of gravel around several mountain roads passing big lakes or Llyn in Welsh back tyre still seems OK looks like theres few thousand more miles however the front scrubbed up on both edges,
Not been in much rain winter roads lowest temperatures - 7 only if there's no road salt in the winter ,Max summer 28, overall quality very good on the 5s
I can only agree. Great set of rubbers.
I got 12000kms from them on my 1200 multistrada. Great tyre am now on my second set.
Very nice. 12k seems like the magic number! Cheers Phillip.
Great video!
Apparently Michelin has addressed the front tire wear issue with the Road 6.
Really glad you made this review, I had planned on replacing my stock tyres with these and wasn’t sure if I’d get the mileage I have been. Can’t wait to have them fitted now.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Glad to help Darren. I honestly can’t complain about the mileage 👍🏻
I have R4's on my XSR900, such an improvement on the tyres it came with. When they need replacing I'll probably go for the R5's, based on your review, cheers. Great quality vid by the way.
Thanks very much Tim! Certainly seems that the R5‘s are a little more surefooted than the 4‘s. I guess you’ll be able to confirm or deny!
Andy! Your initial review on these tires was the reason I ended up putting them on my shiny VTR1000. 😄
Thank you doing a great job bud..safe travels my friend.
How you finding them after a year on the VTR mate? I'm decideding between these and Bridgestone S22
Thoroughly enjoyed your reviews and perhaps its a boring suggestion but how about trying the PR4S? Being the cheaper alternative you could compare em to the PR5S etc.
I switched from Michelin Road 5 to Continental Road Attack 3. Great improvement. These tires are popular for a reason. The bike feels way more nimble and predictable. Highly recommend!
Good to know! They're a tiny step higher in the price right?
@@AndyManCam I think so... But marginally.
Most important thing is that you enjoy the riding i suppose. Might try them later.
Have you ridden in wet and cold? I currently have CRA3 on my CBR650R and it's a wonderful tyre but I'm a year-round rider so I'm curious how it preforms on 3C and damp in January i.e. should I rather fit R5's for that part of the year...
I have ridden over 8,000kms on my CB1300S, the 5s look only half worn. Best tyres I’ve ever owned, the profile of the tyre is still round.
Thanks for the reassurance about Road 5s. I've just fitted them to my R1200RT. It looks like you ride them quite hard too so a great result to get 12000km. Thanks again
My pleasure John. Quite simply fantastic tyres. I Reckon you’ll be pleased with them.
Find it kind of funny that I found your channel looking up reviews for the tires you been using and now your journey is over with them. Love how you make the videos and review of the tire. Sadly I did not get them due to price.
Well I’m just glad that you did and i hope that you fancy sticking around for a while! 👍🏻
@@AndyManCam 😁 I am glad I did as well and most definitely hanging around. I am however jealous of the places you rode to and the rides you're able to drive on, where I am in the U.S there are no rodes like that unless I ride a hole day
Tell me about it John! Hamburg is miles from all the mountains! It takes me forever to get to those places too! 😂
@@AndyManCam well you see.... Haha. your videos are deceiving then 😂. Keep up the amazing work and stay safe out there
Yeah, i just don’t switch the camera on for the first 1000km 🤣. You too mate.
I got about 18500 km out of My Bridgestone T31 on my kawasaki z900 🏍️
I liked Them so much I went with a pair of Them again.. I did consider the road 5.. Maybe next time 👍🏻 good review
That's impressive mileage! No wonder you went with them again! I guess that once it works, rock it till it doesn't!
Great review! I am getting a set of Road 5 GT on my FJR 1300 gen 3 tomorrow. Really looking forward to test them! Greetings from Sweden
Thanks Johnny! Enjoy the new boots!
No negative thing exept the price. Finishing my 2.nd set and gets 10k km on bouth of them on my mt09 trazer. Going to try the gt version next. In Norway they are 400-450 euros fitted ☹️ love your vids Andy
Wow! Yeah that's a real investment. Good that they last though! Thanks very much Roy!
I was wondering why this tire was rarely mentioned in any vlog when the specs are so damn good
Me too. Seems youtube people speak relatively little about their tyres, considering they’re always on the videos!
I had the road 5 fitted last week thanks to your video. Yes they’re expensive but immediately felt worth it. As for longevity, im on a versys 650 v2 and i weigh 100 kls. Last pair i had was pirelli angel gt and lasted 10k kms. If michelin will give me 15k kms will definitely buy them again, mainly for cruising and dine outs with the mrs 👍🏻
I have a feeling you’ll not be disappointed. I managed almost that much on my 150hp bike and not really trying to be gentle!!!
@@AndyManCam great to know the comparison 👍🏻🙏🏻
My pleasure! Grippy rides to you sir!
@@AndyManCam and to you too champ ride safe always
Great! I am looking forward to seeing your response to them.
You and me both!
Between you and teapotone I am convinced Michelin road 5,s. My set of tyres are shot. I must get a sticker to go with my fantastic new t shirt. Take care comrade. 🏍🏍
Happy to help mate! I don’t think you could go wrong with these.
Stick with them Road 5`s for new 1`s Andy, great honest review, which will make my choice easier nxt year - thnx mate, and ride safe
Thanks Anders. Too late I’m afraid. Getting the metzelers fitted next week. Hopefully they’ll be about as good.
Today these still coast around 350€ to loose rims fitted in finland so indeed theyr little expensive. Still going to put them under my cbr 600f pc41. I got pilot power 2ct atm, still have some life in them but front starts to make an edge where the softer material starts and it makes bike feel abot unstable. Hopefully i wont be disappointed!
Good vid Andy - to be honest, you had me sold after part 2 (but it's nice to complete the set :) ), as you know, which is why I'm now running 5s on my MT... :) Agree with Mike G though, these days I don't think there is such a thing as a bad tyre any more, only "the wrong tyre" for your personal preference or use case...
Cheers Matt. So true. There is no best tyre either. Just the best tyre for your tastes.
Nice review! Just picked a set couple days ago Road 6. Looking forward throw something miles on it just like you did 😊 Tnx!
Had these set fitted on my bike since Jan 2019. So far clocked about 20500km as I don't ride far. Still running on them for the confidence it gave me. Only changed the front due to wear. Not sure why the front tyre wear faster than the rear.
It was the same for me. I think they must be using softer compounds in the fronts nowadays for more grip. Apparently the new Road 6 has dual compound on the front, so they might be trying to combat that. I also see it as a sign that I'm not using the throttle TOO much and getting good life out of the rear. Rather than just constantly toasting the back tyres like I used to when I was younger!! 🤣
brilliant tyres mate got em on my mk1 1200 bandit always had pilot 2 tried the 4s but never felt sure footed but the 5s are bob on
I totally agree. Such a solid tyre.
I use mostly pirelli stradas because I'm utterly tight and they are cheap. they can last from 4-5k miles up to 8k depending on a bike, style of riding and type of routes. when I rode FZ6 when I was a newbie, I took it for a couple of Alpine trips and was plonking around on the passes, they lasted 8k miles easily and that's back if I remember correctly. Now, when I gained a bit of experience, changed bike for an MT09, started pushing it a bit more and use it solely on the mountain roads (I started carrying the bike with me rather than riding stupid distances to places) the tyres last me maybe 4k on the back and 6k on the front XD AND I'm not a fast raider at all, I'm only entry level intermediate I'd say. I think an experienced, fast rider would eat them up in half the time. What I'm getting at it's very hard to judge how long a tyre will last. Same model can do double the mileage in different hands ;)
I totally agree. One rider can toast a rear in seconds, another can gently run it for tens of thousands of miles! Most important is to find something that works for you and your style. Sounds like you’ve nailed it.
Got to say Andy the Scottish tour was a good tour.
Many thanks Carl! It was thoroughly enjoyable. Despite the crappy weather!!
Nearly 9k miles on my Road 5s. About 1mm of wear left before hitting the wear markers and a bit more on the back. Superb tyres especially in the wet.
I’ve seen nothing but stellar reviews on these tires. Totally sold on them for the dry / wet grip, their longevity and sense of control, road feedback and confidence they provide. The only question I have remaining is… would they perform favourably on what we call fire route roads (gravel roads in cottage country) on as well secondary roads that are flattened compressed gravel here in Canada 🇨🇦? I have a 2021 BMW R1250GS and would be riding mainly on paved surface but at times would like to go on gravel roads to access scenic compositions in landscape to paint 🎨 and canoe.
Much a predicated,
Cheers
I have exactly the same question... Did you end up getting them ?
Howdy there matey! I had a set of PR5s on my Hornet before I sold it and I gotta say, I agree with everything you've said. They're confidence inspiring! My Street Triple came with a set of Pirelli Angel GT and while they're good, I can't wait to replace them with a good set of PR5s when they wear out (Could still be a while yet though! as they've still got about 2.5mm of wear left in them) Sure the PR5s are quite costly but I can't justify cheaping out on the contact surface between my bike and the road.
Just put some on well worth it thank's for the review ,had a look at the other brands for me Michie's are an all time favourite.
Glad to hear you're happy! No surprise really. Fantastic tyres! Ride thee well!
I have these tyres on my FZ1 down here in New Zealand. Absolutely brilliant, wet & dry, winter and summer. seriously - this is Road tyres - solved .
Regarding 7:00 - Yikes! As well as stupidly leaning into the oncoming traffic while riding on the centerline, traffic paint does *not* have the same traction as bare asphalt! I learned this the hard way on a twisty mountain road, when the front tire let go on the centerline paint, and I low-sided into the side of the mountain. The road was dry, and the traffic paint was only a year old.
Yeah he had no real excuse there. You can see who's coming into the corner from miles before it! In his defence (weakly) the white lines here are potentially MORE grippy than the asphalt itself! It's like glittery sandpaper! Important that I never forget that when i'm no longer riding in Germany. Of course German white lines are IMPOSSIBLE to see in the rain, so that's another side of the situation!
Great review start to finish Andy, certainly considering a set of these tyres now;)
Thanks Anthony. You really couldn't go far wrong with them. 👍🏻
they warming up fast and are easier to flip the bike than on Metz 01
Good review Andy. I am a fan of the Michelin road series used them on my GSX-R 750.I think it was the road 3.
Thanks Lyn. The ‚Road‘ Series seems to have gone From strength to strength. And even the PR2‘s were great tyres!
I made 20k km on Pilot Road 4 and replaced them with Road 5. I have no idea if easier leaning and more confidence comes from the improved tread and/or compound or just because I replaced a little bit square tires with a brand new, but after 1 month and 4k km I must admit the feelings are that they perform better and rather won't last longer than PR4 (I think due to softer compound? Probably Road 5 GT would stay on my wheels as long as PR4, we will see).
PS - Try to turn off video stabilisation while using ND filters. This way you will avoid horizon's blur and your front (chin) camera footage will look more live.
Glad to hear you’re enjoying the tyres Marcin. I don’t mind a bit of horizon blurring in the shady Patches. The rest of the Video looks so much better than the jarring mess without ND or stabilisation.
Just had them fitted and straight into a thunderstorm which you can imagine i was concerned about. However straight out of the box they gave me incredible confidence and just felt like they were glued to the wet road.
Looking forward to seeing how they feel at 500 miles
Very happy to hear it Joe and I have no trouble believing it! Fantastic set of hoops!
Any updates? I'm trying to decide what tires to get. Thank you.
All of my updates are in this video I’m afraid! I haven’t had the same tyres again since, though i would very happily spoon them on again in a heartbeat.
@@AndyManCam I just got them installed today. Thank you and ride safe my friend.
@@EEEBA1 thanks, you too! And enjoy those new hoops!
Had Pr4 on my versys.....good in the rain, but in the dry. meh. way too "iffy" in leaning. And the Pr4s profile became like sawteeth very fast(Sägezahn)
Now i am on my third set of Continental Road attack 3's and i do not regrett my decision. A lot more grip in the dry and at least even or better in wet conditions. Just better overall
Sounds a lot like the Pr3‘s i once had. These 5‘s are nothing like that though. 👍🏻
Thanks to your recommendation, i installed the Road 5s on the Sprint GT - no regrets.
Gladly Ted. Hope you get many more happy miles out of them!
Hi Andy, I've put over 17,000 on my PR5s that I fitted to my Ninja 1000. I do a lot of freeway kms (sadly) but overall these have been excellent tyres. I do have some scalloping, but I've since adjusted the suspension which I think contributed to that (increased the preload and stiffened the rebound) and it seems to have stopped the scalloping getting worse (maybe 2000-3000 since I've adjusted it). In all weathers they've been excellent. I am fairly confident that I could get another 10,000km from them, unless I do a couple of longer trips mixed into my commuting. I previously had a rear PR3 last over 25,000 on my VFR.
Glad to hear it mate! I think it's possible that my suspension was set a little bit soft/slow too. Have changed it, and we'll see if it makes any difference on the Metzelers that replaced these.
That’s a great vid as it’s renewed my confidence in buying a new set again. My front tyre has squared off too never had that before either. Best tyres I’ve ever had Versys 1000 btw.
Excellent review. 5* performance is the norm from AMC.
Interesting about the wear of the front tyre, normally the other way around. Anybody else out there experienced that?
Still using PR4 but may well consider upgrading, when they next both wear out at the same time.😀
Thank you most kindly MrC. I know, weird right!? But then I was hammering in to the bends and being relatively controlled on the exits!
I've had the front PR5 wear out faster too.
Great review keep up the good work. I’ve had a few pilot road 4/5s on my bikes they’ve been great until I tried the Bridgestone S22. You should try them out and make a video on that.
Thanks mate! I've recently been on the road with @TheLikeableRider and he had S22's on his Superduke R. In wet temps below 10 degrees, he had an awful time keeping the tyres warm enough to get any grip at all. He was all over the place! Whereas I was on Avon Spirit ST's and had no troubles at all!
Ive just taken a set of these off my Crosstourer. I agree, probably the best tyres for feel and performance in the wet ive ever had. Like you they got a real test last year in Scotland where they were rock solid. However, its not all good for me, at around 4500 miles they were really badly squared off and the tread had become "stepped" (It may be called feathering?) on the sides making them feel quite weird when cornering. Though not down to the wear indicators at 5400 miles i decided they had to go. What i will add is that the Crosstourer is a heavy bike, the rear is only a 150 and due to the sizes my bike requires the Trail version. I do keep an eye on my pressures and Ive had 11000 miles on a set of Anakee 3s. Just fitted Pirellis Scorpion Trail 2s.
That's really interesting to know HR. I guess that on my 190 rear and with probably 50 kilos less, the weight is spread much more across the contact patch. Horses for courses I suppose. Show that you can't blanket recommend these for everything. Cheers!
Hi Andy, Nice ride dude, thanks for your opinion on the Road 5 bike shoes. Not quite ready for a new set on my Tracer yet. Sometime maybe you could chat a bit about the new video gear your sporting... new cameras and mounting position. I know you've mentioned in a past video you like the chin mount position better than the side. Are you liking the GoPro better than the Sony. Both companies handle video stabilization quite differently. Really enjoyed it, thanks again, Mike
Cheers Mike, my pleasure mate! I think a video about the new gear is definitely in order. I’m just ironing out the creases and getting it perfect for me. Plus I’m waiting till I’ve got a bunch of different footage to use. So far I’m liking the effects though.
Mate, I really like your style and thanks for the review... I've hit the thumbs up for ya too.
One thing about your nomenclature though Bro; you keep saying "profile" when you actually mean CROSS SECTION... "Profile" for want of a better definition, means the distance between the rim and the road... Tyre manufacturers refer to that in the second set of numbers of the tyres dimensions... as a percentage of the tyres width.
For example the "50" in "200/50 ZR17" is the "profile" of the tyre... as a percentage of the width of the tyre ie. 50% of 200 millimetres (the width of the tyre) which of course means there is 100mm of rubber between the aluminium of the rim and the asphalt of the road.
Thanks again for the video... great work.
Warm Regards, Alan Squires.
Thanks Alan. Happy to help. With regards to profile, I’d say we’re both right. Yes technically the profile is the height of the tyre from the rim. Also referred to, in connection with the width, as the aspect ratio. But the height of the tyre coupled with the width has a lot to do with the shape of cross section of the tyre when looked at, you guessed it, in profile. A 190/55 has a taller and therefore more triangular profile than a 190/50. It has to be so, because curve of the tyre is completely changed by the extra height but with the same width.
@@AndyManCam Trust me Andy It's "cross section" mate... not profile. You look at the profile viewing the tyre from the side.
Just so there's no misunderstanding see this diagram: www.denniskirk.com/dkmobile/17800f3db7/images/help-center-cms/motorcycle-tire-dimensions.jpg
Dunlop disagrees with you mate. Well, doesn’t disagree with you, but doesntz disagree with me. Check out this page about their Sportsmart TT. Scroll down and find them talking about the the revised dynamic front profile. www.dunlop.eu/en_gb/motorcycle/tires/sportsmart-tt--ssmart-tt.html I’m certain I’ve read marketing blurb from other manufacturers using the same terminology to refer to the shape of the tyre. I’m fine with the fact that it’s also known as cross-section, but I don’t think anybody has any problems knowing what I’m talking about when i say profile. A seat is also called a saddle, a triple clamp is also called a yoke, a brake disc is also called a rotor….
@@AndyManCam By your reasoning if someone says it's good to stick your head in the fire, it must be good to stick your head in the fire. ie. just because someone at Dunlop says something does not mean they are right... He may be a tyre genius but his
English is poor. Another example is; some QANTAS publications cites QANTAS as "Qantas", which is incorrect as
QANTAS is an acronym. Queensland And Northern Territory Aerial Services. Just because it came from the "horses mouth"
does not make it right my ol' son.
Sorry Alan. That makes no sense mate. If a tyre manufacturer uses certain terminology to describe their products, i think it can be assumed that they know what they’re talking about. After all, it’s all they do. If a doctor told me it would be safe to stick my head in a fire, then maybe I’d trust the expert. Though that also wouldn’t happen as their only job is to protect my health. You didn’t just take things out of context, you blew it out of the water and it’s lying on the bank gasping for air! Maybe just let it go. I’m going to keep saying profile and everybody is still going to know what I’m talking about.
Great review ! Good analysis, weight distribution of bike, type of riding eg motorway , country roads. Thanks for sharing
Thanks very much. My pleasure! Was a thoroughly enjoyable experience from start to finish with these tyres!
Hi Andy, great to see you riding again and making beautifull vlogs!! I was planning to mount the twin horns like you did. So I checked to see your tutorial of that. Can't find it anyware anymore in your vid's. Something happened to your playlist I guess. Some vid's dissapeared, some double...... Work to be done mate haha. Or maybe I'm just not looking wright. Good luck Andy!!
Sorry Fred, I took the video down as it was getting next to zero views and it seems that all of the links don't work any more.
On front tire wearing faster than rear: I have Dunlop Roadsmart II's on a Versys 650. The front tire has 1mm to the tread wear indicators, but the rear has 3mm to the indicators.
Maybe some of us are just a bit more zealous into the corners! I certainly haven't been shy!
Nice review AMC. I have a set of these on my MT09 and love them so far.
Looking at the wear on your tires I think you might need some suspension adjustments, the raised tread edges on the rear and the slight scalloping on the front can be signs of incorrect suspension adjustment.
Thanks Steve. Incorrect in which direction? It’s a dark art, that suspension adjustment! I’ll take any help i can get!
@@AndyManCam it is definitely a dark art. I'm not 100% sure, but the rear has to do with rebound and compression adjustment.
I've been trying to watch Dave Moss's videos to learn more about the art.
I find that with Dave Moss, he says an awful lot, without actually giving you any useable information. You obviously have to pay for the good stuff!
@@AndyManCam I definitely think you're onto it there. If you pay you get the answers.
I've also started reading the Race Tech suspension bible to learn more.
The more i Read, the more i think I’d rather just have a professional sort it all out for me! Though i still don’t reckon I’m enough of a rider to really benefit a huge amount! As long as the wheels go round and the brakes work, I’m happy! 😂
Hi Andy. My PR5's are on the shelf waiting to be fitted to my Versys 1000 (your recommendation helped) and they're fitted to our son's Versys 650. Just waiting for the Bridgestone T30Evos to wear out on my bike. Looking forward to seeing the difference. PS who do I have to kill to get some of those new stickers?! 😄 👍
Very nice! I'm sure they'll be splendid!
Thanks for the recommendation Andy, I used to ride my old FZ1 with those as well ;)
My pleasure! You know how good they are then. 👍🏻
I was worried for a minute as I resently put the road 5 trails on my Caponord so glad they lasted.
Ha! No need to worry. I think these are one of the most solid choices available right now.
Yes my front Road 5 wore out before the rear too. Very strange- gsx650f
Glad I’m not alone. Must just be much softer.
Buying my Road 5 tomorrow 👍
Front and Back
$ 615.00 Australia 🇦🇺
Metzeler M7 RR too slippery for winter
BMW R nine T
Enjoy the new rubber mate!
Fantastic mileage and overall performance of the tyres! 👍
Yes indeed! If I weren't trying to show an unbiased channel, I'd likely just get them again!
Andy Man Cam Sorry but if they are that good I'd get another set without question. The fact you are paying for the new set will shut up any nay-sayers. Tyres are such a personal choice if you find some that work, stick with them! 👍
If i don’t enjoy the Metzelers, I’ll definitely come back to these.
Fantastic tyres, thanks for the reviews Andy played a major part in me choosing them. Just like the bike - you cost me some money you do!!!! 😂😂
My pleasure mate! Sorry about all the money, but at least it's for good stuff that you like (need)!
Andy Man Cam can’t argue with that at all 👍🏻😀.
The pirelli angel gt 2 might be worth a try. Would be good if you could review these
They’ve had good reviews. I’ll consider them next time. 👍🏻
Very good tires, but the front lasted only 9000km. Rear was stil good for a couple of thousand kilometers. So I'm back on Dunlop Roadsmart 3.
Compared to the M7RR‘s 9000km would have still been a huge improvement for me!
loved these tires as well, surely an improvement from the pilot road 4's which were ok. Unfortunately did not have the chance to test them properly but up to the 5k km's they were great, sportier than the pilot road 4s but not as sporty as the pirelli diablo rosso's III which I had before them. No regrets
Yeah something like Rosso III's will always leave you feeling more sporty. Sadly my location rules out the sportier super sticky tyres.
With the bike you have I would like that you give the new Power 5's a go. Great content!
I had seriously considered those. I think i will likely try them next. I wanted to finally be able to answer the michelin vs metzeler question so have opted for the new Metzeler Roadtec 01 SE.
@@AndyManCam Excellent! I had been considering Roadtec 01, and I just love how the rear tread pattern looks like a MotoGP rain tire. I have a set of Pirelli Angel GT's on hand (got them at discount after GT II was released). But I've been considering the Roadtec 01 for the next set after that.
I have been really impressed with them on my Triumph. ace to hear how they do over longer/higher miles! :-) Nice burn out Mr
I can imagine! Nice light bike like that will likely get even more mileage than I did! Enjoy mate!
@@AndyManCam :-)
What triumph do u have
@@TINNING1 Hi AT, I had a Triumph Street Triple 765R. The Pilot Road5's are possibly the best all weather tyre I've run on a bike, and I did 3 trackdays on the same set too on the bike! :-)
12.000 km? Not bad! Not sure the Bridgestone S22 will last that long, probably not. But I've been in the Harz area last weekend and they performed just great especially in bends. 👌🏻
That’s the most important bit, after all! 👍🏻
Brilliant tyre, brilliant review... Subbed
Many thanks Andrew and welcome aboard!
Impressive, they still look good. I have always had the back go first
Yeah, weird! Apparently some of that could be down to worn or weak supsension in the forks. Quite possible as I don't know how old the oil is and I'm a bit bigger than the average rider!
You could ask a Yamaha dealer. I think if can get that mileage out of a set of tires, it's not that bad.
I reckon a fork servicing video is in order in the autumn.
I’ve got a set on my S1000XR, they are incredible. Lovely Black Helmet you have, sir. #NoHomo. 😝
Haha! Thanks very much!
I might have to get some. Howvever if this lockdown in Wales continues as it is, my Supercorsas are going to last 2 seasons. :)
Nice viking like send off for the rear !
The Supercorsas that lasted forever....
@@AndyManCam I seriously hope not :(
@@mikejgriffiths No chance they will last *this* season, however long it is. I know that you're gonna finish them off within a couple of days, once you get back out on the bike!! ;)
Very decent wear out of those rubbers mate, especially when you consider spirited riding and motorway miles. As you say pricey but for longevity and confidence surely worth it.
After many tyre videos I’ve watched your reviews on them a few times and today decided to go with it and have ordered a set 🤪 good work Andy keep the videos coming btw have you run the cbr in yet so you can properly give the pastie 👍👍👍
Nice! Hope they work as well for you, as they did for me! Already at 5000km and about to change the tyres on the Honda! 🤣
AndyManCam what r u going with tyre wise I think they came on Bridgestone S21’s if I remember my test ride 👍👍
Brilliant vid.if that doesnt convince people about road 5s nowt will.had them on myself 👍🤜🤛🏍
Cheers Kelvin. Undeniably good tyres.
Andy I've got Continental Road Attack 2's on my gixer. Really good tyre and I got them for £150, but I fit them at home so some dosh saved there 👌🏻
Good to know. I think I’ll have to try out Conti and Bridgestone again soon.
AndyManCam I once had the sport attacks which were known to have an impressive lean angle, defo worth a look.
I would have to agree 100%, the best tires (tyres) bar none !
Just realised the pun that I'd missed! 'Bar' none!! 😂 Always sharp, me...