When you realize the homie 343 wasn’t a bad guy, but instead someone doing their job to ensure the flood could never ravage the universe like it once did T-T
@@richardpatterson1694 although that job would have been much easier if the Ring could fire local tactical pulses (it may actually be able to) and the Flood were only kept in the Library, and places they can be easily sterilized/vaporized...
@@chrissonofpear1384 spark actually had alot of measures that could do that one is even shown in the terminals he is just so insane he wants to fire the ring.
@@richardpatterson1694 True. Perhaps he was also the one who moved some Flood samples to some casually guarded outpost in a swamp, too? With quite easy to open cages, it seemed.
@@chrissonofpear1384 the tragic part of early halo is that most of the stuff was made up along the way so looking back at it with the information we have makes it look pretty stupid
This summary was awesome! Chakas, the sole character to be part of the past, present and future of Halo, wrapped up in less than thirty mins. That's pure Halo Canon.
@@kx7500Librarian is dead. Pretty sure Chief wasn't alive 100,000+ years ago when Forerunners were. Didact hasn't officially returned yet and was in a Cryptum for the entirety of the Galaxy's rebirth.
@@jasonoconnor6788 if you know more of the lore I think you’d have a more open mind. The librarian I suppose you’re right though same with the didact as he died off screen
I'm glad spark got a happy ending and all but that won't stop me from shooting the floating lightbulb, I was listening to this when I got to the end of halo 3 and watch Johnson die again!
To be fair, Johnson was a timebomb by that point. There were flood spores inside his body from the events of CE, they just had difficulty infesting him due to his screwed up nervous system and the sheer age of the infection forms. Sure he was fine at the moment, but it was only a matter of time until he became patient zero of a new outbreak deep within human territory. He went out the best way he possibly could.
@@jakeriese4862 He was, at least temporarily. The flood has shown an ability to evolve over time, they started out as literal dust particulates that didn't even have nutritional value after all, it was only a matter of time before they figured him out. Though I doubt he would of been a patient zero, if he was going to infect people, he would of already done it in the aftermath of Operation: First Strike, or after the events of Halo: 2, when he returned to earth. A single flood spore is enough to infect, but flood infection forms ignore Johnson, so it would be enough to assume spores do too.
@@chadyoung9934 I saw that in the last two games he was in. I knew instantly that Johnson was infected, and the Flood knew it the very first time they ignored him. When Guilty Spark killed him I was not surprised. In many ways, he must have detected the infection in Johnson progressing.
@@chadyoung9934 oh no he has flood spores in his lungs, but the lung cancer killed them. Joking aside when he died if he had any cells in his system they would’ve had a buffet
@@tri-sapien6487I’d want Chief to meet Spark again now that he has his full memory again. As Chakas again I feel like he would be much more helpful to him
Sometimes I go to Halopedia and just see a bit of the summary of the novel, just to know what I'm getting myself into, and then I see the novel's full cover art, and I think to myself "Why aren't they selling these as posters?"
Tim Dadabo voicing the Halo: Primordium audiobook is one of my favorite things in 343’s canon. Hearing his voice change from human to Monitor at the end is so chilling
It would be funny if Spark comes back in Infinite and is all like: "I told you that you should've given her (Cortana) to me, Reclaimer. I would've made her death quick and clean. All this crap with the Created? This is all your fault, dude." to the Chief.
One of my favourite characters. I love Spark, I got really sad at the end of Point of Light, cause to me that seems like it'd be where 343 and us cut ties with spark forever, never seeing him again, It was his perfect end, but it was also a good opportunity to return to him later
So what happens if spark shows up later with a small army of precursors to help finalize the end of the flood, and the series. A true union between the humans and their allies.
When the Halo CE soundtrack kicked in as soon as Chief arrives on the Halo ring I couldn’t help but smile. Great summary and you gave me a new appreciation for Tinker Bell.
His actions for killing Johnson is beyond unforgivable but knowing he's redeeming himself makes him a good character now. I won't forgive him but I won't hate him.
Johnson was already a living timebomb. There were flood spores in his body from the events of CE. His screwed up nervous system due to the Orion project made it difficult for them to infect him (along with how goddamn ancient the infection flood forms were), but it was only a matter of time. His ending in 3 really was the best way Johnson could have gone.
@@Horrorpleb 343 Guilty Spark is basically 2 different personas one is a rampant AI that lost its marbles after 100,000 years in isolation while Chakas, the human essence was locked away after the Rings were fired. Master Chief and Johnson pretty much killed the AI and as a result Chakas was reawakened again and was disturbed by what he did as 343 Guilty Spark.
Hey Canon. I am going through a mega marathon through the forerunner saga... even putting in movies/games that seem well suited to play/watch inbetween the Halo activation to humanity going through the industrial tiers and eventual exploration into space. This is leading up to Infinite which, on purpose, I've never seen the trailers in the hopes to keeping the build up leading up to Infinite to be as explosive and awesome as possible. I'm listening to the audiobooks in my car, I'm about to start Silentium soon and I cannot wait :)
Thats a huge undertaking and I commend you. I honestly think the Forerunner Saga could stand on its own if it wasn't connected to Halo. It was my favorite collection in the Halo book franchise. That, and the newest Master Chief trilogy. My only problem with that was that the last book timeskips to Halo 5s time. I really enjoyed the fact that the first two books were about a still developing John, where the last one... I honestly didnt finish.
@@Wizard_Pikachu I’m fully expecting to be disappointed in 1, 2 or more areas. I had a regular marathon for Halo 5 and that was a bummer. But I’m hopeful and going to try again 😊.
@@PrimordialBias Yeah I’m loving the forerunner saga. I had a massive list of everything halo lore and the date it’s set. Even putting in Far Cry Primal to see humanity in its early stage… but premise of it being the librarians creation, The Dish showcasing the moon landings and then Apollo 13 for when it goes wrong, COD and Battlefield carefully interwoven until Infinite Warfare when early ‘Halo-like’ technology came to light. I’m not fussed too much on time skips, primordium does that time to time when it has dialogue from the Rubicon crew and it’s ending. I’m so happy to share this with other Halo fans and story lovers.
@@DanteDevilDanCool beans, dude. Far Cry inclusion may be going too far... And how do you feel about fanfictions? I have one I've very proud of, but I've put off doing the final two chapters of, regarding the Forerunner-Flood war...
I love this redemption arc. And the fact that the precursors have a chance at life again after the forerunners is awesome. I do really hope we see him again at some point because he’s a very fascinating character.
Seriously. Imagine how crazy the story truly is - he starts as a humble pre historic human, becoming immortal and finally becoming a monitor for an installation that so above everything else not even most of the forerunners knew about it.
It would be interesting to know if those two remaining rescued Precursors (and their seeds) would be aware of the actions of their modern-day Flood/Gravemind/Primordial's consciousness. Will the seeds, once spawned in their new galaxy, reconnect to the Milky Way's Flood consciousness but remain independent in their actions/philosophies (i.e. bringing joy though complex life-building vs revenge on all life with misery in unity), or will they mentally merge/assimilate and just become new Flood in their new galaxy? Would they even have a choice? And what would they do with that choice? Perpetuate the Flood or come back and rescue their creations in the Milky Way?
The flood we know from the Milkyway were created from what were essentially corrupted Precursor corpses. That were guided by the Primordials desire to enact revenge against the Forerunners and all that they hold dear because of the slaughter against the Precursors. However the Librarian did said that the two survivors of Path Kethona held no anger for the forerunners that wanted to save them and just wanted to die in peace. Also the flowers that were emerging from their corpses were clean (of genetic memory) and of any corruption (unlike the Precursor dust in the milkyway). Therefore the Precursors that would emerge from the Flowers that are transported with the Eden would not undergo the same development as the flood. They will probably just emerge as the same Precursors before their extinction. At least that is what i took away from Point of Light.
@@42skynet31 I'm not convinced they were wholly 'good' when they threated to wipe out all Forerunners for falling short of the Mantle, that said - as Halo Warfleet also indicates. And whatever the Test from Primordium involves, and how long it's been pending... maybe even pre contaminated Flood dust?
This raises questions regarding on Flood itself for me, like for example since we know that Gravemind is able to gain the knowledge of the previous Gaveminds, which essentially means there's only been only Gravemind. This would mean that once Flood becomes evolved enough to form one, they should have all the knowledge from the previous Gravminds, whom had assimilated Forerunners and are the precurcors. So the question becomes "How come Flood doesn't start to manufacture Forerunner weapons, Star-roads and all that overpowered Precursor & Forerunner stuff in order to win the eternal war?
Guilty Sparks back story is much more interesting than I thought it would be. I'm glad we got to see his past and future with the books with potential for more.
9:57 Despite being called "rampancy", it isn't really what the UNSC defines it as, because it seems to mostly because of Spark being bored out of his mind with no social contact, rather than data overload. Basically like going insane from being locked alone in a box for thousands of years.
Depending how ambitious 343 industries is, it's possible that zeta halo is it's intended destination. And will appear some time later down halo infinite's development alongside new multiplayer maps and an extension of the campaign.
@@mark_thurwanger Not in infinite anyway. *Sighs* Damn it, is a fan made halo TTRPG campaign going to end up more faithful to the cannon of halo than the supposed custodians of it?
@@jensen2310 that would be great. For me, personally, it's his personality. He's really positive and is happy when he shares the lore of Halo. Some of the other Halo TH-camrs are more serious when it comes to their presentation. He gets really excited when new lore comes out. So why do you like Halo Canon the most?
I went through a Chakas/Spark deep dive (as much as is possible on Halopedia) sometime last year. Somehow I entirely missed the whole Bastion thing haha. (Mini edit: I just checked and Halopedia STILL isn't up to date with the Point of Light information neither on Spark's page nor on Ace of Spades page. Shame.) I really like his story a lot, and even though I think most people would be turned off by its twists and turns, having it all laid out in one place is fun. I'll continue to say that I think it'd be awesome to have a game that followed the Ace of Spades. But rather than being totally linear, make it a space sim where the salvagers have to work, con, and fight their way across the galaxy to make ends meet. Of course, that all depends on what time period you'd use. It could just be a standard endless space sim if it's before their meeting with Chakas, with few story implications. Sort of Freelancer or even early Elite vibes. Or they could certainly just have a fairly linear game following the events of their time with Chakas. Personally, I feel this period with Chakas would serve well as an extended tutorial that leaves you with a FORERUNNER UPGRADED SHIP?! Hello?? And at that point, you'd pick up with the crew as they flit around looking for clues about the Spirit of Fire, doing odd jobs with their crazy ship and dodging ONI attention as best as they can. Intersperse free roaming though cities and colonies with story bits told at Forerunner installations, and perhaps culminating at the Ark or somewhere afterward, depending on what happens in Infinite. Gameplay could even be MechWarrior-esque as you have to carefully manage your resources over time to ensure that you can get to the next story point and back safely. Anyway. It'll never happen. But I want it haha.
Awesome video! I honestly thought that it was flood gravemind who "logic-plagued" Mendicant Bias to turn on the forerunners. Edit: Nvm I saw the rest of the video lmao
It is so awesome to realize how big he really is to the whole story. Would have been cool for him and the didac to have a reunion in Halo 4, just like a passing "Sup man". Even though it's been ages for them, it's nothing co.pared to how we perceive that length of time.
The Ur-Didact from H4 never really cared for Chakas, so that reunion would have been awkward with only a minor acknowledgment. The Bornstellar Didact (Iso-Didact) is the one who was friends with Chakas and would have been a great reunion. Unfortunately he’s been dead for thousands of years :(
gotta agree man, Idk why so many people praise this, unless he's in any more games, they've basically just deleted his character from the lore (even after continuing his story after he was killed? bruh why even...)
Something that never made sense to me: if the Flood is so dangerous and you resort to firing the Halo array, ¿why even keep samples?... ¿for study??! DESTROY EVERYTHING GOD DAMNIT XD
Since there was no guarantees that all Flood would be destroyed even with the firing of Halo Array, samples were kept to be studied on in order to find a way to defeat them that doesn't involve killing off all complex animal life in the galaxy.
The Forerunners had no reason to believe that the entirity of the Flood exist in our galaxy. If they destroy all samples of it, they destroy any chance of developing better counter-measures.
I always felt bad for Spark. After all he was only doing his job and only acted out in anger finally when he had been taken advantage of and betrayed one last time in Halo 3-- only to be cheated once more. It makes me feel much better knowing that he not only found a sense of peace, but learned to love and grow attached. To be Human one last time. Given the bs he's been through, he deserves that much.
That probably won’t be a good idea reviving the prescursors since they might end up having a linked mind with whatever gravemind is currently alive right now, or they might end up becoming graveminds themselves automatically since the precursors do have access to the domain and by extension all the knowledge of the flood/precursors
TBH, there was no good reason to fire the ring at the end of halo 3. 343 was pretty confident it could hold out against the weakened flood for a couple days.
Because it probably could have, the elites and unsc could have easily defended the portal if the flood somehow got through and they crashed high charity on the ark so it's not like they could even leave
@@brennan1703 Doubtful, considering even the entire Fleet of Particular Justice and High Charity's defense fleet couldn't contain the Flood, and that they glassed half of Africa just for one ship, it'd be safe to say they'd be fucked if more came through the portal
@@nagger8216 that was when high charity wasn't stranded on the ark, plus the elites managed to destroy almost all infected ships besides the one that crashed on earth. After the ark the flood had 0 operable ships
The reason why they fired it early was to destroy the ring and the flood on it, not to wipe out every sentient being in the universe when it was finished.
If the flood return, I hope to see something of Chakas, like sending coordinates to master chief/humanity to find weapons suitable to fight the flood, or locations to shield worlds to help humanity, sort of an anonymous benefactor to humanity XD
Great vid! I’m a huge fan of the Halo expanded lore via Audiobooks. Halo is one of the few sci-fi stories that honors continuity via different mediums. Any chance you can do more videos of the books?
I went from HATING spark to having a deeper and empathetic understanding of the circumstances involved with him, then a level of respect for him after the events of 3
While I still don't entirely forgive him for The Sargent, I think a lot of people don't understand that humans aren't supposed to live that long. After loosing purpose too THAT will drive anybody insane. Guarantee nobody will ever last past 1000 years like that. Chakas has such a strong mind to come back in the end like that.
Hey great video I had a question would you be ever interested in doing a Q&A about halo lore that maybe is too small or none important in the halo canon?
You know with the while Flood collective knowledge thing, it's surprising they don't overtake the galaxy completely after returning time and time again. I mean they have the most knowledge on the history if the entire galaxy and all the species in it. As well as the knowledge of all Forerunner installations and equipment. When they start the consumption of the galaxy why don't they just go straight to the Ark, steal a human from a colony world or something and completely deactivate the whole array? I feel like this is definitely within the capabilities of the flood. Or they could head straight to Earth and start there. Lots of humans to assimilate and capture to deactivate Forerunner technology or maybe even use the Forerunner technology against other species or against Forerunner installations. Unlike all the other species in the galaxy the Flood already have knowledge of everything and everyone in the Milkyway when the whole cycle resets after a total ring activation. They have knowledge on how to build slipspace drives, advanced technology, artificial intelligence, etc. You could argue that they're waiting for the amount of lifeforms to get to a suitable point so they have maximum food, but the Flood is intelligent once it reaches the coordinated stage. They could just farm other species by allowing them to multiply and mature and then assimilate one mature generation of a species, and so on and so on. Unlimited Flood biomass.
@@richardpatterson1694 I wouldn't say mistranslations, the Prophets and those with them when Mendicant was talking about the rings were just too stupid to understand. They were religious fanatics, what did you expect? You can see the mirrored image when something supposedly "miraculous" happens
It makes me wonder if we'll truely see him ever again, hell, possibly on installation 07 where we currently are, afterall, you'd think he'd have alot of interest now with someplace with so much history and secrets hidden in it...I say this and literally not only 5 minutes later I somewhat get my answer. Honestly, I really do hope that one day we meet him once again, considering how important Bastion is we will inevitably find it....it'd also be funny seeing his reaction to seeing chief again thinking that after all this time he should technically be dead.
@@WarGrowlmon18 I feel like upcoming events and past events surrounding the ring will definitly draw his attention, because as much as he hates it there, whats currently happening can very much hurt his new friends and companions.
One thing that never made any sense to me is why didn’t the forerunners place any of their own species with the rest to be reseeded after the activation of the halo array. I’d like to think I know most of the halo lore out there but I’ve never heard of any reason that would prevent them from reseeding their own kind so that their species could live on after the flood was gone
The ship that landed on the ring is possibly the ancient human planet sterilising cruiser vessel. The one that fires the super charged particle beams capable of exterminating and entire fleet and planet.
I really want to know what will happen with Bastion and the Precursors. I don’t think this will ever affect the story of Halo but it would be nice to know. Also, this makes the Forerunners sort of the creators of the Precursors
Outpost Discovery, it was an in-universe drone view that people sat in-I think with a 4d theatre if I remember correctly-where it showed all sorts of Zeta Halo.
The reason that he remembers is his past now is thanks to the Master Chief: when he nearly destroyed 343 Guilty Spark in Halo 3, it restored his human memories. Broke the lockdown that had been placed upon them.
Alright guys we got a Infinite flight coming very soon, to all of my fellow Halo Insiders, I hope to see you on the field of battle on this infinite flight
I don't like where they took his character. He was a humble AI servant created to protect his installation (even had the same personality as Penitent Tangent) but now he's another exceptional human who just got lucky. They really went out of their way to keep him alive. Truly the Darth Maul of Halo.
I definitely pity Spark. Being forced to become a monitor and then have his memories being locked away. I wouldn't mind seeing him again with the upcoming war against the Endless. I'm not sure how that would work though with him being the caretaker of the Precursors.
He's not: the Precursors are gone with another Monitor, the remnants of a Forerunner Builder. Spark is the now the caretaker of the Shield World Bastion.
Maybe in a few billion years, but I doubt it. This new race would lack everything that had made the Precursors so evil as they will have no genetic memory, no nothing really. The Flood are from the remains of evil Precursors, but like every species, they had those that were good. The Librarian used the remains of 2 good Precursors. Unlike the evil ones, they became something truly beautiful instead of the dust that had created the Flood.
When you realize the homie 343 wasn’t a bad guy, but instead someone doing their job to ensure the flood could never ravage the universe like it once did T-T
The CE terminals make it painfully clear. He's basically halo's version of Hal 9000.
@@richardpatterson1694 although that job would have been much easier if the Ring could fire local tactical pulses (it may actually be able to) and the Flood were only kept in the Library, and places they can be easily sterilized/vaporized...
@@chrissonofpear1384 spark actually had alot of measures that could do that one is even shown in the terminals he is just so insane he wants to fire the ring.
@@richardpatterson1694 True. Perhaps he was also the one who moved some Flood samples to some casually guarded outpost in a swamp, too? With quite easy to open cages, it seemed.
@@chrissonofpear1384 the tragic part of early halo is that most of the stuff was made up along the way so looking back at it with the information we have makes it look pretty stupid
This summary was awesome! Chakas, the sole character to be part of the past, present and future of Halo, wrapped up in less than thirty mins. That's pure Halo Canon.
Your right!
Not true. The didact, library, possibly even the chief have been too
@@kx7500Librarian is dead.
Pretty sure Chief wasn't alive 100,000+ years ago when Forerunners were.
Didact hasn't officially returned yet and was in a Cryptum for the entirety of the Galaxy's rebirth.
@@jasonoconnor6788 if you know more of the lore I think you’d have a more open mind. The librarian I suppose you’re right though same with the didact as he died off screen
@@gtaiv2993 it's the comment section genius
I'm glad spark got a happy ending and all but that won't stop me from shooting the floating lightbulb, I was listening to this when I got to the end of halo 3 and watch Johnson die again!
To be fair, Johnson was a timebomb by that point. There were flood spores inside his body from the events of CE, they just had difficulty infesting him due to his screwed up nervous system and the sheer age of the infection forms. Sure he was fine at the moment, but it was only a matter of time until he became patient zero of a new outbreak deep within human territory. He went out the best way he possibly could.
@@memoria964 really? I thought he was completely immune
@@jakeriese4862 He was, at least temporarily. The flood has shown an ability to evolve over time, they started out as literal dust particulates that didn't even have nutritional value after all, it was only a matter of time before they figured him out. Though I doubt he would of been a patient zero, if he was going to infect people, he would of already done it in the aftermath of Operation: First Strike, or after the events of Halo: 2, when he returned to earth. A single flood spore is enough to infect, but flood infection forms ignore Johnson, so it would be enough to assume spores do too.
@@chadyoung9934 I saw that in the last two games he was in.
I knew instantly that Johnson was infected, and the Flood knew it the very first time they ignored him.
When Guilty Spark killed him I was not surprised.
In many ways, he must have detected the infection in Johnson progressing.
@@chadyoung9934 oh no he has flood spores in his lungs, but the lung cancer killed them.
Joking aside when he died if he had any cells in his system they would’ve had a buffet
I'm glad the Sparks never meet Chief after their last encounter. Chief tends to do things that REALLY upset the synthetic.
He hasn’t run into Chief again YET.
I wonder if it would be a meetup like with the Arbiter on Earth.
I hope we meet Spark again. Maybe not as Master Chief but, I definitely want to see him in a Halo game again.
@@tri-sapien6487I’d want Chief to meet Spark again now that he has his full memory again. As Chakas again I feel like he would be much more helpful to him
@@mark_thurwangeryeah, we gotta remember, as spark he was long past rampant, he was completely gone
Sometimes I go to Halopedia and just see a bit of the summary of the novel, just to know what I'm getting myself into, and then I see the novel's full cover art, and I think to myself "Why aren't they selling these as posters?"
They're pretty damn beautiful.
Tim Dadabo voicing the Halo: Primordium audiobook is one of my favorite things in 343’s canon. Hearing his voice change from human to Monitor at the end is so chilling
My favorite part of the book
I remember my reaction to Spark's resurrection. I believe my exact words were "How many times do I have to kill something before it stays dead?!"
Blue fish from SpongeBob: “how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?”
Have you even tried killing the Flood.😊
@@clxwncrxwn Considering I’ve been a Halo fanatic since Halo: CE, yes. Yes, I have.
It would be funny if Spark comes back in Infinite and is all like: "I told you that you should've given her (Cortana) to me, Reclaimer. I would've made her death quick and clean. All this crap with the Created? This is all your fault, dude." to the Chief.
I just read that in his voice lol.
Also he could ask chief for help to find a new monitor body, because the amigor body is too limited compared to a monitor.
@@sideburngthepeacebringer27 If Chief is dumb enough to trust him for a third time he deserves whatever laser hits him in the back
The Weapon: “Do you know this guy?”
Chief: “Too well.”
@@cesarvictoriano8072 Who else but Spark? *theme song plays*
I said it once, I'll say it again:
Spark has the best redemption arc of any Halo character.
He can never be forgiven for killing johnson.....but im glad hes on the right side now.
@@michaelperrine2754 that's what I told myself at the start lol. Then I read point of light and renegades. They had me in tears...
@@AQG_Arts ... he killed Johnson. Fuck him
@@fionnbarrcasey5247 Ok we get it
Lol no
I didnt realize just how many maps from Halo 4 Point of Light touched on. Pretty cool, honestly.
One of my favourite characters. I love Spark, I got really sad at the end of Point of Light, cause to me that seems like it'd be where 343 and us cut ties with spark forever, never seeing him again, It was his perfect end, but it was also a good opportunity to return to him later
Bastion... could appear near Installation 07
343 would never abandon their namesake. Probably.
Been waiting for a good vid around this topic from you. *grabs popcorn*
Did you make sure it wasn't flood popcorn?
@@Naofumi-Iwatani
(Looks down at snacks with fear)
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*We are a timeless chorus. Join your voice with ours and sing victory everlastibg.*
I am machine. I am Chakas. I am human. I am 343 Guilty Spark.
Holy crap I remember Chakas. He’s come a long way from eating scorpions from under rocks on a Halo as a human boy.
Yeah, poor guy.
So what happens if spark shows up later with a small army of precursors to help finalize the end of the flood, and the series. A true union between the humans and their allies.
Good to know the Precursors get another chance
I just imagine them wondering their origins as a species. Imagine life on earth as reseeded life from another galaxy that had its own history.
When the Halo CE soundtrack kicked in as soon as Chief arrives on the Halo ring I couldn’t help but smile. Great summary and you gave me a new appreciation for Tinker Bell.
His actions for killing Johnson is beyond unforgivable but knowing he's redeeming himself makes him a good character now.
I won't forgive him but I won't hate him.
Same.
Same.
Johnson was already a living timebomb. There were flood spores in his body from the events of CE. His screwed up nervous system due to the Orion project made it difficult for them to infect him (along with how goddamn ancient the infection flood forms were), but it was only a matter of time. His ending in 3 really was the best way Johnson could have gone.
@@memoria964 No one here is denying that but 343 guilty spark is still an ass for his actions.
@@Horrorpleb 343 Guilty Spark is basically 2 different personas one is a rampant AI that lost its marbles after 100,000 years in isolation while Chakas, the human essence was locked away after the Rings were fired. Master Chief and Johnson pretty much killed the AI and as a result Chakas was reawakened again and was disturbed by what he did as 343 Guilty Spark.
Hey Canon. I am going through a mega marathon through the forerunner saga... even putting in movies/games that seem well suited to play/watch inbetween the Halo activation to humanity going through the industrial tiers and eventual exploration into space. This is leading up to Infinite which, on purpose, I've never seen the trailers in the hopes to keeping the build up leading up to Infinite to be as explosive and awesome as possible. I'm listening to the audiobooks in my car, I'm about to start Silentium soon and I cannot wait :)
Be prepared to keep your expectations in check.
Thats a huge undertaking and I commend you. I honestly think the Forerunner Saga could stand on its own if it wasn't connected to Halo. It was my favorite collection in the Halo book franchise. That, and the newest Master Chief trilogy. My only problem with that was that the last book timeskips to Halo 5s time. I really enjoyed the fact that the first two books were about a still developing John, where the last one... I honestly didnt finish.
@@Wizard_Pikachu I’m fully expecting to be disappointed in 1, 2 or more areas. I had a regular marathon for Halo 5 and that was a bummer. But I’m hopeful and going to try again 😊.
@@PrimordialBias Yeah I’m loving the forerunner saga. I had a massive list of everything halo lore and the date it’s set. Even putting in Far Cry Primal to see humanity in its early stage… but premise of it being the librarians creation, The Dish showcasing the moon landings and then Apollo 13 for when it goes wrong, COD and Battlefield carefully interwoven until Infinite Warfare when early ‘Halo-like’ technology came to light. I’m not fussed too much on time skips, primordium does that time to time when it has dialogue from the Rubicon crew and it’s ending. I’m so happy to share this with other Halo fans and story lovers.
@@DanteDevilDanCool beans, dude. Far Cry inclusion may be going too far...
And how do you feel about fanfictions? I have one I've very proud of, but I've put off doing the final two chapters of, regarding the Forerunner-Flood war...
I didn't even know that Spark is going to help re-seed the Precursors, that's bloody awesome! What a Chad 👌
The only thing I learned from this is that Sergeant Forge has a daughter
@sly dankass
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True. She was mentioned in Halo Wars.
I love this redemption arc. And the fact that the precursors have a chance at life again after the forerunners is awesome. I do really hope we see him again at some point because he’s a very fascinating character.
He is without a doubt the most tragic character in the Halo universe.
R.I.P. To my homie Riser😢
Chakas deserves his own feature film or a series that retells his story from the beginning until his latest mention on the books.
Seriously. Imagine how crazy the story truly is - he starts as a humble pre historic human, becoming immortal and finally becoming a monitor for an installation that so above everything else not even most of the forerunners knew about it.
It would be interesting to know if those two remaining rescued Precursors (and their seeds) would be aware of the actions of their modern-day Flood/Gravemind/Primordial's consciousness. Will the seeds, once spawned in their new galaxy, reconnect to the Milky Way's Flood consciousness but remain independent in their actions/philosophies (i.e. bringing joy though complex life-building vs revenge on all life with misery in unity), or will they mentally merge/assimilate and just become new Flood in their new galaxy? Would they even have a choice? And what would they do with that choice? Perpetuate the Flood or come back and rescue their creations in the Milky Way?
The flood we know from the Milkyway were created from what were essentially corrupted Precursor corpses. That were guided by the Primordials desire to enact revenge against the Forerunners and all that they hold dear because of the slaughter against the Precursors.
However the Librarian did said that the two survivors of Path Kethona held no anger for the forerunners that wanted to save them and just wanted to die in peace. Also the flowers that were emerging from their corpses were clean (of genetic memory) and of any corruption (unlike the Precursor dust in the milkyway). Therefore the Precursors that would emerge from the Flowers that are transported with the Eden would not undergo the same development as the flood. They will probably just emerge as the same Precursors before their extinction. At least that is what i took away from Point of Light.
@@42skynet31 Sounds like I've got a book to read! Thanks for that awesome reply
@@42skynet31 I'm not convinced they were wholly 'good' when they threated to wipe out all Forerunners for falling short of the Mantle, that said - as Halo Warfleet also indicates. And whatever the Test from Primordium involves, and how long it's been pending... maybe even pre contaminated Flood dust?
They would override the flood, practically giving it peace and allowing it to rest at long last
This raises questions regarding on Flood itself for me, like for example since we know that Gravemind is able to gain the knowledge of the previous Gaveminds, which essentially means there's only been only Gravemind. This would mean that once Flood becomes evolved enough to form one, they should have all the knowledge from the previous Gravminds, whom had assimilated Forerunners and are the precurcors. So the question becomes "How come Flood doesn't start to manufacture Forerunner weapons, Star-roads and all that overpowered Precursor & Forerunner stuff in order to win the eternal war?
I remember reading the forerunner series. Chakas story is truly a winding one. Great sci-fi!!
I love spark's character arc from villain to new journey.
Guilty Sparks back story is much more interesting than I thought it would be. I'm glad we got to see his past and future with the books with potential for more.
9:57 Despite being called "rampancy", it isn't really what the UNSC defines it as, because it seems to mostly because of Spark being bored out of his mind with no social contact, rather than data overload. Basically like going insane from being locked alone in a box for thousands of years.
I hope he can appear in a halo game at least once more. I really want to see Master Cheif's reaction to seeing him again.
Depending how ambitious 343 industries is, it's possible that zeta halo is it's intended destination. And will appear some time later down halo infinite's development alongside new multiplayer maps and an extension of the campaign.
@@Destroyer_V0oof, sadly this did not age well. Seems like this will never happen now 😢
@@mark_thurwanger Not in infinite anyway.
*Sighs*
Damn it, is a fan made halo TTRPG campaign going to end up more faithful to the cannon of halo than the supposed custodians of it?
@@Destroyer_V0 seems like it
Halo Canon deserves to be the most subscribed to Halo content creator, he makes the best videos by far.
Nah, HiddenExperia is much better.
@@thearnorianruby4681 he makes too many "filler" video's with very little good content just for the sake of uploading a video.
@@jensen2310 everyone is entitled to their opinion, so I will not argue with you.
Have a nice day though.
@@thearnorianruby4681 I don't care to argue either, why don't we have a civil convo and you tell me why you prefer Experia?
@@jensen2310 that would be great. For me, personally, it's his personality. He's really positive and is happy when he shares the lore of Halo. Some of the other Halo TH-camrs are more serious when it comes to their presentation. He gets really excited when new lore comes out.
So why do you like Halo Canon the most?
I can’t believe that the most badass song was given to guilty spark
I went through a Chakas/Spark deep dive (as much as is possible on Halopedia) sometime last year. Somehow I entirely missed the whole Bastion thing haha. (Mini edit: I just checked and Halopedia STILL isn't up to date with the Point of Light information neither on Spark's page nor on Ace of Spades page. Shame.) I really like his story a lot, and even though I think most people would be turned off by its twists and turns, having it all laid out in one place is fun.
I'll continue to say that I think it'd be awesome to have a game that followed the Ace of Spades. But rather than being totally linear, make it a space sim where the salvagers have to work, con, and fight their way across the galaxy to make ends meet. Of course, that all depends on what time period you'd use. It could just be a standard endless space sim if it's before their meeting with Chakas, with few story implications. Sort of Freelancer or even early Elite vibes. Or they could certainly just have a fairly linear game following the events of their time with Chakas.
Personally, I feel this period with Chakas would serve well as an extended tutorial that leaves you with a FORERUNNER UPGRADED SHIP?! Hello?? And at that point, you'd pick up with the crew as they flit around looking for clues about the Spirit of Fire, doing odd jobs with their crazy ship and dodging ONI attention as best as they can. Intersperse free roaming though cities and colonies with story bits told at Forerunner installations, and perhaps culminating at the Ark or somewhere afterward, depending on what happens in Infinite. Gameplay could even be MechWarrior-esque as you have to carefully manage your resources over time to ensure that you can get to the next story point and back safely.
Anyway. It'll never happen. But I want it haha.
One might wonder if the editors were either not fans of those books or there's an anti-spoiler embargo in place.
Awesome video! I honestly thought that it was flood gravemind who "logic-plagued" Mendicant Bias to turn on the forerunners.
Edit: Nvm I saw the rest of the video lmao
Deep Halo lore is legit fascinating. The games need to explore it's awesomeness
I thought it was really cool for you to use the real names of each race and the true names of the characters from each race
I just finished reading Point of Light when this was uploaded. Nice.
21:32 “new Carthage” and “Hannibal weapon systems” somebody is a history nerd too lol
It is so awesome to realize how big he really is to the whole story. Would have been cool for him and the didac to have a reunion in Halo 4, just like a passing "Sup man". Even though it's been ages for them, it's nothing co.pared to how we perceive that length of time.
The Ur-Didact from H4 never really cared for Chakas, so that reunion would have been awkward with only a minor acknowledgment. The Bornstellar Didact (Iso-Didact) is the one who was friends with Chakas and would have been a great reunion. Unfortunately he’s been dead for thousands of years :(
There are so many halo books that are top tier that I wouldn’t be surprised if 343 started making them into games
Wow, 343 really does find a way to ruin everything
gotta agree man, Idk why so many people praise this, unless he's in any more games, they've basically just deleted his character from the lore (even after continuing his story after he was killed? bruh why even...)
Only with in 3 seconds I put my like on this video.
Love your content man.
Keep the amazing work
Superbly tied the knot of the whole story of chakas the guilty spark.
This video >>> a certain video I’ve seen with a thumbnail calling Spark surviving H3 a dumb retcon
I've always been fascinated by that unidentified ship that crashed on the ring. I hope we eventually find out more about it
Something that never made sense to me: if the Flood is so dangerous and you resort to firing the Halo array, ¿why even keep samples?... ¿for study??! DESTROY EVERYTHING GOD DAMNIT XD
Since there was no guarantees that all Flood would be destroyed even with the firing of Halo Array, samples were kept to be studied on in order to find a way to defeat them that doesn't involve killing off all complex animal life in the galaxy.
The Forerunners had no reason to believe that the entirity of the Flood exist in our galaxy. If they destroy all samples of it, they destroy any chance of developing better counter-measures.
I always felt bad for Spark. After all he was only doing his job and only acted out in anger finally when he had been taken advantage of and betrayed one last time in Halo 3-- only to be cheated once more.
It makes me feel much better knowing that he not only found a sense of peace, but learned to love and grow attached. To be Human one last time. Given the bs he's been through, he deserves that much.
That probably won’t be a good idea reviving the prescursors since they might end up having a linked mind with whatever gravemind is currently alive right now, or they might end up becoming graveminds themselves automatically since the precursors do have access to the domain and by extension all the knowledge of the flood/precursors
It was stated that these precursors wont have any knowledge of their history.
I haven't checked this channel in a while but omg that intro is awesome
TBH, there was no good reason to fire the ring at the end of halo 3. 343 was pretty confident it could hold out against the weakened flood for a couple days.
Because it probably could have, the elites and unsc could have easily defended the portal if the flood somehow got through and they crashed high charity on the ark so it's not like they could even leave
The portal was still up, if they waited they could've made it through any time
@@brennan1703 Doubtful, considering even the entire Fleet of Particular Justice and High Charity's defense fleet couldn't contain the Flood, and that they glassed half of Africa just for one ship, it'd be safe to say they'd be fucked if more came through the portal
@@nagger8216 that was when high charity wasn't stranded on the ark, plus the elites managed to destroy almost all infected ships besides the one that crashed on earth. After the ark the flood had 0 operable ships
The reason why they fired it early was to destroy the ring and the flood on it, not to wipe out every sentient being in the universe when it was finished.
If the flood return, I hope to see something of Chakas, like sending coordinates to master chief/humanity to find weapons suitable to fight the flood, or locations to shield worlds to help humanity, sort of an anonymous benefactor to humanity XD
I'd prefer it to be Mendicant Bias.
@@Battleship009 Looks like it’s going to be Offensive Bias
Damn, now I’m thinking of a redeemed Spark helping chief to stop the banished and Cortana from activating the rings.
It was fittingly emotional when this video ended with Never Forget ost
He is now simply known as Spark. I’m very glad that his Guilty part is gone. ❤️
Great halo lore video as always 👌 keep it up!
"For starters, we should have installed two caretakers per installation."
Halo's lore is incredibly rich and deep.
Anyone else quickly notice Cortana humming in HALO5 like guilty spark did in HALO1
Bornstellar is the friend we all wish we had.
That’s nice that spark buried the dead. It surprised me
Great vid! I’m a huge fan of the Halo expanded lore via Audiobooks.
Halo is one of the few sci-fi stories that honors continuity via different mediums. Any chance you can do more videos of the books?
Woah I didn't know the little bastard survived, I'm glad he has his own happy ending. Spark is a great name for a monitor
I went from HATING spark to having a deeper and empathetic understanding of the circumstances involved with him, then a level of respect for him after the events of 3
very curious to see if anything will come from the precursor seeds, and if they're at all related to the endless
They'll need a few billion years before they become something.
While I still don't entirely forgive him for The Sargent, I think a lot of people don't understand that humans aren't supposed to live that long. After loosing purpose too THAT will drive anybody insane. Guarantee nobody will ever last past 1000 years like that. Chakas has such a strong mind to come back in the end like that.
His memories were locked away. When the Chief almost destroyed him, Spark got them back.
You know, for a lightbulb, Spark wasn’t half bad in the end.
Damn I really wanted to see the light bulb one more time
Imagine if Halo & Aliens vs Predator intersected.
Hell Of A Job True Halo Fan You Are A God Of Wisdom It Feels Like You Are A AI With All This Knowledge About Ｈａｌｏ
Hey great video I had a question would you be ever interested in doing a Q&A about halo lore that maybe is too small or none important in the halo canon?
Why spark so epic now! At one point he was just a crazy floating light bulb.
Just found you but holy f*ck that’s intro is insane😭
Guilty Spark really is Halo’s version of “Here’s Johnny!”
You know with the while Flood collective knowledge thing, it's surprising they don't overtake the galaxy completely after returning time and time again. I mean they have the most knowledge on the history if the entire galaxy and all the species in it. As well as the knowledge of all Forerunner installations and equipment. When they start the consumption of the galaxy why don't they just go straight to the Ark, steal a human from a colony world or something and completely deactivate the whole array? I feel like this is definitely within the capabilities of the flood. Or they could head straight to Earth and start there. Lots of humans to assimilate and capture to deactivate Forerunner technology or maybe even use the Forerunner technology against other species or against Forerunner installations. Unlike all the other species in the galaxy the Flood already have knowledge of everything and everyone in the Milkyway when the whole cycle resets after a total ring activation. They have knowledge on how to build slipspace drives, advanced technology, artificial intelligence, etc. You could argue that they're waiting for the amount of lifeforms to get to a suitable point so they have maximum food, but the Flood is intelligent once it reaches the coordinated stage. They could just farm other species by allowing them to multiply and mature and then assimilate one mature generation of a species, and so on and so on. Unlimited Flood biomass.
Its just the plot. If they did that, i wouldnt enjoy the storyline as much
chakas is my fav character of the franchise. not sure why but I've read/listened to the forerunner saga 4 or 5 times now
Question. Do we know how the covenant found out about the Halo rings?
Mendicent and mis translations of the warning about halo.
@@richardpatterson1694
I wouldn't say mistranslations, the Prophets and those with them when Mendicant was talking about the rings were just too stupid to understand.
They were religious fanatics, what did you expect?
You can see the mirrored image when something supposedly "miraculous" happens
@@dickmelsonlupot7697 What are you even talking about? 'They're not mistranslations' **goes into detail about how they were explicitly mistranslated**
@@nagger8216
*rEkLeMeRzZz* go *BRRRRRR*
Poor Chakas :(
Just finished the Forerunner Saga. was quite good
Yeah. I had hated how Primordium retconned his death until I read Renegades and I loved it.
@@WarGrowlmon18 did you read/listen to Silentium??
@@WarGrowlmon18 I need some of that succulent precursor powder 😂😂😂
@@richarddutton1981 Yep
It makes me wonder if we'll truely see him ever again, hell, possibly on installation 07 where we currently are, afterall, you'd think he'd have alot of interest now with someplace with so much history and secrets hidden in it...I say this and literally not only 5 minutes later I somewhat get my answer. Honestly, I really do hope that one day we meet him once again, considering how important Bastion is we will inevitably find it....it'd also be funny seeing his reaction to seeing chief again thinking that after all this time he should technically be dead.
Maybe, but Spark hates Zeta Halo due to his experiences there. I doubt he'd return to that particular ring unless he has a good reason.
@@WarGrowlmon18 I feel like upcoming events and past events surrounding the ring will definitly draw his attention, because as much as he hates it there, whats currently happening can very much hurt his new friends and companions.
@@bibby659 Maybe
So Spark is basically in an Exo/Promethian body?
"I can't forgive you, but you have my thanks..." ~Lord Hood
LETS GOOOOOO! I just finished cryptum for the 3rd time today!
One thing that never made any sense to me is why didn’t the forerunners place any of their own species with the rest to be reseeded after the activation of the halo array. I’d like to think I know most of the halo lore out there but I’ve never heard of any reason that would prevent them from reseeding their own kind so that their species could live on after the flood was gone
They wanted to die because they felt they had caused the death of the galaxy.
Such great content.
The ship that landed on the ring is possibly the ancient human planet sterilising cruiser vessel. The one that fires the super charged particle beams capable of exterminating and entire fleet and planet.
You use an excerpt from the audio book but can’t pronounce Chakas right? 🤦🏻♂️
I really want to know what will happen with Bastion and the Precursors. I don’t think this will ever affect the story of Halo but it would be nice to know. Also, this makes the Forerunners sort of the creators of the Precursors
Excellent video
I HATED him in the games and how they had retconned his destruction until Halo: Renegades came out.
Does anyone know if the image at 21:15 is from one of the games? I’ve never seen that place before
No idea yet - maybe new concept art?
I see Stato sentinels, though...
Outpost Discovery, it was an in-universe drone view that people sat in-I think with a 4d theatre if I remember correctly-where it showed all sorts of Zeta Halo.
all i can think when i see Chakas' picture is 'you know i had to do it to em'
The reason that he remembers is his past now is thanks to the Master Chief: when he nearly destroyed 343 Guilty Spark in Halo 3, it restored his human memories. Broke the lockdown that had been placed upon them.
Alright guys we got a Infinite flight coming very soon, to all of my fellow Halo Insiders, I hope to see you on the field of battle on this infinite flight
Wherever you are Halo Canon, I hope you're doing well
I don't like where they took his character. He was a humble AI servant created to protect his installation (even had the same personality as Penitent Tangent) but now he's another exceptional human who just got lucky. They really went out of their way to keep him alive. Truly the Darth Maul of Halo.
I definitely pity Spark. Being forced to become a monitor and then have his memories being locked away. I wouldn't mind seeing him again with the upcoming war against the Endless. I'm not sure how that would work though with him being the caretaker of the Precursors.
He's not: the Precursors are gone with another Monitor, the remnants of a Forerunner Builder. Spark is the now the caretaker of the Shield World Bastion.
Congratulations chakas, you just helped the flood infest another Galaxy. #theprimordialshorrificsecret
Maybe in a few billion years, but I doubt it. This new race would lack everything that had made the Precursors so evil as they will have no genetic memory, no nothing really. The Flood are from the remains of evil Precursors, but like every species, they had those that were good. The Librarian used the remains of 2 good Precursors. Unlike the evil ones, they became something truly beautiful instead of the dust that had created the Flood.
@@WarGrowlmon18 WRONG. You need to watch this: th-cam.com/video/jqGLwWSq10U/w-d-xo.html
He’s a Habbit.
I know what it falling asleep to tonight