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How about just paying a reasonable minimum per order? My AR hit zero% yesterday. I spend half my day rejecting disgusting insults. How is this an efficient or serious manner of doing business? We are supply all the labor and supplying a car, gas, insurance, maintenence, and depreciation of said car. Two dollars? These apps are the most un-serious people I have ever encountered in my journey through this life. And that includes circus clowns, comedians, and politicians.
I'm a new Dasher and the app keeps telling me I need to keep my AR up to get more better paying offers. I'm at 49%. If I let it go to 5% then all I'm going to get is $2 offers???
@@bml33 Try to stay above 50% for silver status and you'll still get some bad offers but more worthwhile offers too. I still get the occasional $2 order as well as the occasional $25 order.
We lost my husband to covid-19 early in March of 2020. We depend on delivery, both of my parents have dementia and I don't know what we would have done during the worst of the pandemic. Every time I got sick it was after a trip to the grocery store. On top of dementia my dad is in heart failure. I can't count on the caregivers that are supposed to come to allow me a few hours break. I appreciate all the delivery people who save me having to drag my parents out. Thank you for what you do. I'm sorry the companies don't pay you what you are worth.
Thank you. We make most of our money on tips and unfortunately we have no idea what the tip is until after the delivery so I have found that a lot of times there's no tip at all. I appreciate people like you and I'm happy to help even if I'm not the Dasher in your area
I've learned that if they send u a message saying they r busy it usually means there is one really bad offer that no one else wants so they would like to see if you would take it. Please.
You`re better off getting a security guard job watching a roll-up door or fence while watching movies all night. At least in a security guard overnight position, you`re getting paid a guaranteed wage every day, every week.
When I move to the city, that's what I plan on doing. I was a security guard in Houston for years, I loved guarding warehouses, industrial sites and such. Best job ever because you mostly work alone. I think overnights might be hard for me now that I'm older, but I'm hoping I could get used to it. On my off time I will definitely be doing Uber eats and Doordash, but will be nice to know I don't have to rely on those for income.
I’ve been on both ends as a driver and a customer I think it’s crazy how as a customer we’ll pay like $40 for a meal that’s really like $20-$25 but the driver is only getting paid like $5-8 tip included
Right I hit platinum on Door dash and making less than I was before this status. Getting less order, and not making minimum wage and my gas is getting used up. If I park it seems I’m not getting anything at all. What I’ve noticed too is I can dash any time but the time option seems to be locked 90% of the time. Evening seems to be open often. When the gas prices were higher I was making more than when prices dropped.
What area are you in because I hate Uber Eats but sometimes I make in one night over $150 doing it but 50 goes back in my gas tank so yeah I make 100 lol. The least amount I've made is (and mind you I only work 4hr no less than 3 hrs a day) $47.36, but that's because I only worked for 1hr and 12 minutes that day
@ that’s good if you make that every day I’ve made that but not often. On a good day 100 in2-3 after 5. Every zone makes a difference and if your either by time compared by order. Days mids are within maybe 60 in 2 hrs. Zones I hate to say it’s bad to low budget areas. Door Dash figures u out when u work a certain area and make money then gives you the 2-3 dollars or 4 dollars to spread dashers money around. I do over 300 dashes per month. I’ve been dashing for over 2 years but know for sure 150 is not possible every day where I’m at for 4-6 hrs. I’ve made 300 in all day dash but it’s pushing it. My truck usually needs to be fueled every day 65 dollars. Most dashes are usually far but without excepting them by time is best for me. By time I’ve doing good on occasions but not often. Dashes have been dad lately here. Making 20 is 50% chance by hr. But time of day depends. Door dash has been locking my time. Then lots of those small orders. If you do them anyways then other days they will give you high paying orders. I’m a platinum dasher but still get those crap dashes. Door Dash at times will give you a week or 2 weeks to get good money then down to low pay.
I use DD often and my family n friends are Dashers, I agree with DD pay and I consider myself a good tipper, what is DD paying? I've experienced many times my food being stolen as well, if you're not being paid well and the food you're delivering is fresh and tempting, I guess it is what it is. DD, if you're watching, pay your workers real money please
You're right but that's why I also drive passengers. I don't take deliveries for under $20/hr. It's because the delivery customers are not tipping. I don't gamble on a cash tip at the door.
Drivers come, drivers go, and the Gig Economy is constantly changing, but many of us also stand our ground and keep on going! Stay safe out there everyone!
I am 79 yr old partially disabled female, so I need and depend on my food delivery! I live in rows of apartments, and the driver has repeatedly left my food three doors down. The first time it happened, I called with a missing food report, only to be told it was delivered. I called my granddaughter to straighten it out for me, only to find out it was three doors down. She had to go and take it off another person's porch. We have placed detailed instructions, as well as placed a small table next to the door with those detailed delivery instructions, only to have it happen again, two more times. Once, I waited at the door only to see the driver park down there. I opened the door and asked if it was my order... and it was! So, we are not always saying we are not receiving the food only to cheat the restaurant and the driver. I need my driver, I tip my driver and still worry about my order!
Sorry to hear that. I want to make a few suggestions: Get a unique door mat, make sure your apt./house numbers are legible, make sure your door/address is well lit and add special instructions in the app. Also maybe ask them to call or text you upon arrival. The app. shows the driver a picture of your front door and also all of the special instructions.
That's because they let anyone with a pulse deliver. I think it's ridiculous that good people lose opportunities while incompetent people who can't speak English or follow directions are employed. I work next to a Burger King and Doordash drivers daily walk in and shove a phone in someone's face and they yell "Doordash" you look at their phone it says Burger King and we have to direct them to the building next door. Everyday new drivers circling the parking lot with their hazards on not understanding their own job.
OMG spot on!! I live in VA nothing racist but they don't understand English, instructions nothing, using fake accounts and u wonder why all drivers seen as bad WTH u don't understand 💩 demand food u in wrong restaurant anyone with a pulse u so right 👍
I ran out one time when I got an "It's busy" message. It takes me a few minutes to get to town because I live in the country. I sat for 45 minutes because it was no longer busy. At least now that I'm platinum I don't have that issue anymore. I have learned what times are usually busy though and only dash during those times.
Door Dash used to pay $5 base per delivery I think. Now they're splitting the profit and taking the money for themselves. Looks like paying only $1 per mile now 😂😂😂 Door Dash founder went to Stanford just to learn how to steal
Same here in Scotland can’t make any decent money anymore. The apps are all the same it’s done. I will be leaving to start a new job soon. Great vid thx
When the customers claim they didn’t get the food it actually hurts the restaurant, I own 2 restaurants and DoorDash takes the money directly from the restaurant when they get a complaint, then we need to dispute the claim and show proof we bagged the correct food. We now have cameras that just film the takeout bagging station so we can show proof.
I’ve found that many, if not most drivers are intentionally being dishonest with themselves about their actual earnings, or they don’t have the skills to figure it correctly. As a rule, when asked about their income, most drivers report the amount BEFORE any deductions. - deduct your gas cost -deduct cost of wear on your car -deduct approx 25-30% for taxes and social security. -deduct cost if purchasing additional “gig” auto insurance Divide the deducted figure by the amount of hours you spent on the app- NOT the active time. 0:15 Most will see that your “take home” is equal or less than your state’s minimum wage. On the rare occasion that you had an exceptionally profitable shift and feel the need to advertise that on whatever site, this only entices more new drivers to join up because they think it’s the norm
I deduct gas and then I see what I made. Nothing else. I average 9 to 15 an hour. Sometimes 20. I usually get decent orders . You are not going to make a lot of money. It's meant for extra money not a living
That will not be accurate. Irs per mile rate expense is .67 cents a mile. So income minus .67 a mile minus other expenses.....then net income. Then taxes on net. And u think door dashers are paying gig insurance?
Doordash sends out unreasonable text to drivers complaining about you late when they know it's rush hour which is annoying.I used to make good money years ago not anymore
As a 70 yr old falling at a delivery today after drop off, missed step down the walkway, lost my balance. Wow I can get up fast when you’re embarrassed in their front yard 😂. Maybe it’s time to quit 🥺🤷🏻♀️
Got to watch those steps. For awhile I thought it was mainly millennials and gen z who did these delivery apps but it seems like most ubereats drivers that delivery to my house are older than me. When you think about it, it can be a good side hustle for retired people that are bored staying home all day but don't want to work a full-time job.
@@KentPetersonmoney or due to health issues not being able to do a full-time regular job where you must people up if you have to call out because you’re not feeling well. For those with chronic illnesses.
Your reading of Doordash is accurate. I will not take a job where the money is not at least double the mileage. As a result I quit dashing. No money anymore. I hope you make some money out of your channel. Good luck!
My area is incredible for dashing. Deliveries are never more than four miles, and the pay is usually an average of $8 per run. I've done this full time now for 3 years. I work 10 hour shifts Mon thru Fri. In 50 hours it is rare that I make less than $1400 a week. My average so far this year is $1427 a week. It's crazy how some areas are very different. I dash in Indiana. Also I have not paid a dime in taxes. You can write it all off with your mileage. No boss breathing down my neck and I watch movies all day while I work. I love it.
Some of the best zones are ones with a military base nearby and no huge cities (population over a few hundred thousand). Military bases are full of hungry and tired soldiers that have to get up super early to do PT (physical training) and you need to sign up for a pass in order to get inside the base which not everyone has which adds an element of excusivity. If there aren't any big cities nearby it can be even better because many big cities are expensive to live in which leads to lots of people delivering as a side gig for extra money. I live in a zone like that and routinely get multiple $40+ offers daily. Also it's in the snowiest non-mountain area in the world which makes it even busier especially on the military base because many people there come from areas that never get snow.
@mohammadkhan218 I dash in Indiana. I would never say what city it is. This area is small but extremely busy and not oversaturated with dashers. Would like it to stay that way.
So you say you work 10 hours 5 days a week just to make that much money you're beating up your car putting all those miles on your car not to mention when you got to repair them plus gas yeah you may not be paying taxes but you're paying out of pocket . Why would you want to work that many hours if you're working for yourself anyways you should be able to work less hours and make more money that's not profitable to work that many hours.
@@Hugh_Vincent It seems like the smaller areas are the ones with the better order to driver ratio. Big cities tend to be expensive to live in so the driver to order ratio is worse for drivers there since more people need side gigs. My zones biggest cities have a population of under 25,000 and a military base with a little more than 16,000 and there are some days where theres a steady flow of non stop offers for multiple hours in a row
I worked my butt off and finally got my AR up to 80 and my orders to 100 so since I have been platinum I’ve getting amazing orders I was out yesterday for 2 hours and made $74
That's the only way 80 and above, AR...I will never let my AR drop ever again drop bellow 80%. I had 60% AR when I started Dashing and it sucks, you get shytty orders, they know you refusing everything and won't give you good orders. They will do it for spite, trust me i know been there done that. Now I rarely get bad orders. And now I do alot of shopping, Target, win dixie, CVS, Dollar General. Liquor stores ABC, TOTAL WINE, If you have great surrounding strip malls and such in your area 🤷🏾♂️👋🏽
I'm in the process of doing the same! Two days ago, my acceptance rate was 4%. I'm at 39% as of tonight. My goal is to be at a minimum 50%, trying for 70%, though, so I can start getting the really good orders again, especially on the day before Thanksgiving. All of my other ratings are great (shop & regular), so once I get my AR up, I'll be making much better money. 😉
Same I usually do pretty good. Sometimes I help out and take a crap order since I'm right there and then get compensated with good orders. I'm also platinum . My acceptance rate is 92 percent
@@pcgod718they keep your tips up to 30 days. Look it up in the app. Customers tell me thank you ive tipped so i messaged DD support and they told me to read the rules in app
I'm going through the same thing as a door dash driver..and I agree with you 100 percent. It is really sad how people are really saying that they didn't get their food and door dash does not pay the drivers like they used to. Thank you for this!
I think its based on AR. I have a 82% AR and a friend of mine has a under 50%. His timer shows 3 to 5 mins while mine will show longer. They get more offers quicker then me but they are also lower paying higher mileage. While I to get some crap, most my orders are profitable. End of the day I usually make $25 up to 40$ an hr avg. they make $18 up to $24 avg.
13-23 munites when the map is red😮....you need to move to a different area. My map when I dash is always 1-5, 1-3, or in slow times maybe 2-7. But 13- 23 mins is not good... I would quit.😢...
The prices they charge for delivery and they are still only offering $2 per run if there isn't a tip added... Crazy... I gave up after a few months, the first month was great.
I'd be more transparent with customers who order... They should know that all the delivery fees do not go to the driver's. They should be more up front that tipping ensures drivers will take their order, less likely drivers will decline... It should also provide estimated mileage and give a tip recommendation, say at least $1 a mile, but $2 a mile would be fantastic
Yep it goes down once a twice a year. It was over three base pay when I started but I heard a few years before that it was a six dollar base pay minimum.
I live in an area where I am like one of the only Uber Eats drivers. There are others but at night I’m like one of the only ones. One night I was curious. I opened the customer Uber Eats app and looked at one of the closest restaurants. It wasn’t accepting orders because “all couriers are busy”. I went online and suddenly it was accepting orders but at a $20 delivery fee! Meanwhile all they’d probably give me is $2.50 out of that $20 fee!
@@KetoSimple Door dash is afraid of lack of orders if they mention a tip but lets be honest last time I looked they recommended tip amount and I also always tip in person a minimum of $5.00 so at least the gas and car maintenance can be done!!!
Yes! They were great! Now ppl just get out themselves more and the ones still using it, just got used to the convenience and now don’t tip like they used to. IMO In 2020/2021 Uber Eats was my best paying/tipping app. I always made 200 or more a night on weekends. I miss those days. I don’t do any gig work anymore because it was just a waste of time for me personally in my area.
I’m a uber driver here in Houston for the past 8 years. And I got penalized and my account got deactivated the beginning of this year from customers stating I stole the food when I NEVER DID. So all I did was after a month a sign up with uber with a different email and back on the road again. But the money is not the same anymore that’s for sure. And not everyone tips
Good observation with the double Door Dash notifications for the customer and dasher. I hadn't picked up on that one. I will say customers aren't the only ones stealing food though, and to be fair I haven't had a contract violation from a customer reporting their food wasn't delivered in a long time (knock on wood lol). Unfortunately, the dashers do it too and it seems like it's the new dashers that do. It's happen to me far more times than I've received a CV. I'll arrive at the merchant to pickup my order only to be told that it was already picked up. That infuriates me bc it ends up punishing me for being an honest dasher. You never get ahead or benefit from stealing really. Someone always pays the price. That's the whole idea of the saying "there is no free lunch." Sometimes it's all parties involved that are affected even the theif. I'd say that's the case for the Door Dash theft in general. The other huge factor with the inconsistency of business for dashers (specifically on a weekly basis) is the constant cycle of new dashers added to the platform. As you said dashers are quitting, but that means new ones are added to replace them. Dashers come and go. It's a huge revolving Door. The very thing Door Dash does to keep new dashers engaged is what leads them to eventually quit! It's crazy! New dashers (or dashers who haven't dashed in a long time) are the ones who are truly prioritized. They get the best orders, but it only lasts so long. I don't know exactly how long, but I think it's to assist them in getting their 1st 100 orders. Once they eventually experience what is more the norm and the orders aren't as good they stop dashing! Meanwhile longterm, trustworthy dashers who know what they're doing suffer through the ups and downs of business/dashers coming and going when we are the ones who should be thrown the more meaty bones once in awhile. I get it that you wanna hook new dashers in but not to the extent they do it. It ends up having the opposite effect! They need to calm down a little bit with sending the better orders to the new dashers to make it a little more smoother for the longterm dashers you would think they'd also want to keep! So I don't even think the inconsistency has so much to do with how many orders are coming in as it does with the way the algorithm works to prioritize new dashers, which is often! Lastly, ever since the rewards program started the platform has never been so oversaturated with dashers. Unfortunately, it's also been my suspicion that starting this past fall around late Sept/early Oct they oversaturated the markets with an even higher # of dashers allowed on at the same time in all the markets. Some markets are hurt by it more than others. Mine seems to get hit pretty hard by it. The business was awful in October and yet Door Dashes stock was up on the daily throughout that time. The year before I remember it remaining surprisingly pretty steady.
If I ran DoorDash the first and most important thing I'd do is change base pay to be comparable to miles. I would start pay at 0.90c/mile + tips. And if the zone surges you can increase it. Because wading through traffic and populated areas is increased risk and work. At the very least it would HELP make some trips make SOME sense instead of giving you trash offers you end up messing up your AR.
I don't do doordash much mainly because I try to keep my income under $600. If I make more then I might need a 2nd 1099 forum which would cause me extra to file. To answer your question I have doordash set up to where it gose into my emergency fund. No money comes out of that account unless there's an emergency like having to get my wisdom teeth removed or if I lose my job out of the blue. By the way I finally started Walmart spark.
You do not have to pay extra for another 1099, they all get added together, and you pay one price. So does not matter if you have 20 different 1099 jobs, price is the same for 1 or 20, makes no difference.
If they would just pay better base operation would run much smoother, customers would wanna order often cause they dont have to tip 10$ to get their shot
Well for one they charge a lot for ordering something that cost 7or8 for a meal and you're paying 22 dollars and your food is cold or soggy and so people stop using Uber eats or door dash ,the big companies are making a fortune,so I cook my own food and i take my own food to work to avoid using those apps to bring me food.
Dude after gas and stuff $15 is not $15 it's more like $9 which isn't even minimum wage! I quit gig driving to get a full-time job cuz I couldn't pay my bills anymore. I now use it and I would never pay less the $5 for tip and I pay more if they do something like I've asked them to get me extra ginger a few times, ur getting more money for that. I appreciate them bcuz I was them.
I feel that door dash should pay drivers accordingly to where they are located when sent an offer. Because if one driver is 3 miles from a restaurant while another driver is in the restaurants parking lot, the offer shouldn’t be the same for both drivers. If door dash sends the offer to the further away driver then the base pay should be more. But I know that’ll never happen lol when people will always take $2 orders going 3 or 4 miles 😂
I am disabled and depend on delivery services...by the time they raise the item price of what you are purchasing, add the service fee, taxes, delivery fee and small order fee I can barely provide a tip. When a driver forgets something, which happens, or does not follow delivery instructions it is a big deal to those of us who cannot do it for ourselves. I despise that I have to call back and forth to try and get a resolution. If you order directly from a restaurant app that uses doordash to deliver, doordash will take no responsibility for their drivers' errors. And the restaurant won't because doordash delivered. This is beyond frustrating
Its beyond me why anyone still doing DD! The purpose of having a side hustle is to spend a few hours to make some money. NOT to spend a few hours sitting in your car wasting time not making money!
@kittykay8015 She does it because it makes her money off of doing youtube videos. ( nothing wrong with doing that) because no person with any common sense would do this job.
I've had delivery drivers leave my order at wrong address, arrive at my door, take a photo then walk off with my order and even had one who didn't bother driving to my home but instead took a photo on the lawn next to the restaurant and mark it delivered. So in my case the dishonesty has been from drivers side only.
There's nothing they can do. They can't charge more for delivery to pay drivers more because then the cost of the meal to the customer will not be feasible to order. Ordering food from a restaurant online for a 3rd party to deliver is not sustainable. Unless Doordash was to go to a subscription model then maybe. With Walmart, customers can sign up and pay for Walmart + and get free or discounted home delivery so Walmart is making revenue from those customers that they can pay to the Spark gig driver. Doordash is just adding a fee to the food order and people are not going to keep buying if their meal cost keeps going up.
@daredeardeal7901 these gig corporations are flat out crooks..It was never designed for people that can barley pay for the meal..It's for people that can afford to be lazy .. Common sense tells anyone that a stranger is using there own vehicle and most importantly their OWN TIME. Seeing that whoever placed the order didn't want to get the food or whatever themselves they should take care of the person willing to bring it to them. The platform and the diner both need to pay the driver but 80%of what the drivers make are from the appreciation from the one that placed the order.. Any particular delivery is minimum 15 to 20 min to pick up the order and deliver it. SO HOW MUCH IS 20 MIN OF YOUR TIME WORTH...Remember you didn't even want to go get it for yourself...Hmmm a driver should make a minimum of $7.00 per 15 min ..that's only $28.00 a hour minus gas. Sometimes or a lot of times the driver is 5 to 10 miles away from the pick up location then 1 to 5 miles to drop off.
Also...the company should NOT charge the customer all those fees. I'm a dasher and I do understand why the tips from the customer may be small. Those apps. charge the customer fees and expect them to give EXTRA money for a tip. The companies is who I really BLAME. They are making all the money...and doing little to no work.
I’ve had several instances where food was legitimately missing, cold, etc, instances where the driver was more interested in talking on the phone than paying attention, etc. I tip based on how well you do your job. I’m currently disabled and depend on delivery for just about everything. Do your job well, care about the people you’re serving, and you’ll typically be compensated well with tips. I have several friends who work at restaurants and bars and make a killing in tips, because they do their jobs well.
Yes, Doordash obviously wants illegals instead of Americans to work for them. The majority of the dashers in my area I run into don't speak English since they reduced how much we make by 1/3 in the spring. I thought it must be over saturated but I keep getting messages they want me to refer people for a bonus
I live in Jackson MS, most orders average 4 dollars and rarely I'll get an 8 dollar order once a dash, maybe 3 orders a week 10 or above. All my rates are good, acceptance at 70%.
The 1 thing I would do, if I were DD, is I would base the base pay according to mileage. Maybe a $2 minimum, with 50 cents more per mile when over 5 miles. So, on a 10 mile food delivery, the base pay alone would be $4.50, and then they tip over that.
Sara - did you opt in to take Christmas trees 🎄 to their new homes? 99.9% sure that was on Uber eats today. I’m not totally sure if they put it up on top of your car and then the customer helps you get it down but I’m not taking any chances. No way in hell can I move/lift a Christmas tree.
When I first started delivering, I was taking everything I could get and I was making okay money. Then I got selective, started driving less and making less also. Some of them $2 fairs tip after the delivery and that was why I was making more when I wasn't selective. Not being selective was leaving me an hour drive to get home and often getting fuel twice I a 10 hour shift. Although it seemed like I was making more not being selective, I really wasn't because I was just working harder and driving more. It's newer drivers that are naive like I started that are taking all them smaller fairs and the companies count on that. I went from 95% acceptance to 15% and there is no going back seeing them $1 tips hurts my heart and stresses me out, I'm not being taken advantage of like that anymore.
DoorDash does. its called Earn by time. In my area it varies between $16 to $17 and ACTIVE hr. So from when you pick up until drop off, you make a set amount plus tips. Personally I have been using it more and more and make from $25 yo $40 an hr, in my market.
First off the $2 per order is ridiculous 2nd change wording on the customer app (service fee) 3rd maybe mandatory charge a fee for tipping I am having the same issue long miles no pay or sitting I live in Oklahoma
Well, for GH in my experience the distance tends to be further but you sit waiting for offers a bit more, DD are shorter trips = less $, but more offers, you can opt to get paid per hour plus tips, which often that's the way to go. GH you can just sign on and pick up some extra $$, not DD. It all really depends on your needs
That happened to me when they said they were busy. They put me under review last week. I don’t know why. Maybe someone said their food was missing. Which people be lying. Door dash should pay better and these people need to tip better. It pisses me off to get penalized because you decline an offer with low pay. It’s not fair and not worth it!
They are also lying to dashers about the miles for some of the orders. I accepted a $11 order for 9 miles and it ended up being 17 miles and it wasn't the first time. If everyone stops accepting bad orders then there won't be any bad orders. Platinum is a joke, no need to try to get it
The sad part is us customers are overcharged on the food, which doesnt even include the fees and the obligated tip. None of us win besides the greedy companies.
I think alot of people are tanking their AR and getting mad they dont get orders. I keep mine above 70 and can make 200 - 300 a day on DD in a tiny town. The app will give you a small order then will give a larger one to balance it out. Most people ive met get greedy and mess their money up by tanking their AR. Gotta play the game
I generally do passengers on Lyft in Pittsburgh market but I'm 45 miles from the city, and Jan and Feb is dead on Lyft during the week. I've recently been messing around with doordash in my neighborhood. The hourly guarantee seems to be the way to go. In my market it's essentially an hourly rate+tips. On Friday it was 22.25/hr plus tips. I made 105 in 3.5 hrs, which was decent. For me, it's less time/miles, and I can stay close to home. My plan is to dash during the week and Lyft on the weekend this winter. I average 30+/hr on Lyft during the week and 40+ on the weekend, pretty much April through December. It's only good on weekends during the winter. The rest of the year i can make 1k+ in 30hrs or less on Lyft. I think both can be full time employment with a good strategy. I'd be hard pressed to find anything else with the flexibility or making amount of money I make with Lyft. I literally made 1600 in 38hrs a few weeks back. I'd be lucky to make that much with a CDL, especially being home every day.
When I did Uber and lyft, I made more than my son who is an employee of the state and makes 6 figures. Becauae he has to pay into the officers retirement fund and all that other stuff and mine was just mine.
If i owned door dash etc i would inform the customer what the druver would earn per hour with their tip or lack thereof and put a disclaimer that if the rate of pay is below state minimum wage they might not receive their order or receive it very late. The requests should allow to post cash tip promises and if the customers renege we can report them and not be matched with them. One strike and you're out.
Here is the problem I have with the whole "illegals" argument. AMERICANS are creating these accounts and selling them to whoever. AMERICANS are providing them housing and work. Why is there nothing ever mentioned to punishing the AMERICANS who are aiding these people?
💯🎯 yep, food delivery drivers we some of the first jobs they took from US citizens. People say then we should get a more skilled job...that is until they start taking their jobs because they aren't bilingual
Can illegals get hired ? how I had to provide ss license picture insurance registration background check and not working anymore food delivery dosent pay.
@kaliconnect9014 they use their relatives I'd and insurance to set up an account but illegals actually do the delivery. Most don't even speak English.
I believe that type of messaging started years ago with Lyft/Uber. Those apps would show a map of where you are and show areas via colors of busy. So, you would drive towards that area. The closer you got the graph bubble would just go further away. Also, all those apps make the customer right most of the time. The customer can just accuse. The driver has to go through hell to prove themselves. I quit that world long ago. When they first hit the scene the money was crazy! I mean I knew people that quit their full time jobs to be in the gig economy. Then in a year or two the bonuses disappeared or were less in what they offered. The cut the drivers would get was crazy low all of a sudden. Then we learned how much the company was getting. It was pointless to do that nonsense. I hope folks make it but I have NO plans of going back. Not even if they change for the better. I just don't trust them. Because there really is no protection. It's like a state that has that cowardly setup of "right to work". That's when an employer can drop you for ANY reason and not have to tell you. So, you as a person can't improve or put up a defense that might result in a lawsuit. I'm just done with that world. Good luck to those sticking with it.
I tried to see whats the cost for order. About 2 miles away the food itself cost 15$ but after fees its 30$. Thats not including tip yet. Crazy high fees
I have a lot of times that my McDonald's does not have my order correct. I am waiting for a refund since November 4th and I have yet to receive it I think with all the added things of tax bags food delivery charge and then you're supposed to get a delivery tip on top of all that you were just charged on top of your food. That's why you're getting such low tips
I don't think it's just that the area is busy, it's also because they don't have enough drivers delivering, like you can check it out at like 2 am and it'll say it's super busy, they likely just don't have anyone driving, not necessarily that they're busy like having alot of orders. . .My overall theory about it is this there are pros and cons if they cap the amount of drivers in an area because people do this type of work due to schedule flexibility there may not be enough people to cover the orders at certain times then they might have to consider making it a rule that you have to adhere to a schedule or get paid by the hour and have that as a set payment. But since they leave it how it is the sky is the limit on driver availability (imo) any time they've got coverage . .now I think it also depends on your area, like where I live for instance the population is growing at a very rapid pace so while there are lots of drivers there is also lots of business and quite a variety of incomes and personalities, meaning some can and do tip huge and some can only do so much so it kinda evens out, some people get pissy about $2 for 5 miles but then your next order might be $30 for 4 miles, like I told a fellow dasher in my area, ya gotta take the lean with the fat, it all works out in the end.
What I wanted to add yes your right on reported it missing. Apartments and certain areas or like tons of people living at a home, homes with multiple homes within it or orders with too many instructions are red flags. So under message the customer I click on the photo then take a picture of the apartment building number or house, building ect and send it to them to let them know I’m at the right location. Just be very careful guys you verified the street and numbers first and not rush yourself you could be wrong. Most drivers follow the pin on the map and not verify the street, building ect. Some apartments will have for example building A 101-108 and B, C, D 101-108 as well but not all do but it can be a simple mistake. I will take extra pictures on my phone just in case delete them later. Expensive orders or orders under a few bucks mostly but can happen within 10. Sometimes credit cards will only let you be a few bucks under your balance to processed. These are likely to be disputed so their account is not under withdrawn or their short on gas money and they need it for that. Any time someone says please don’t loose my order 🙏🙏🙏🙏 Thank you! (red flag.) Take tons of pics. If there is a Taco Bell order for example 1 bean burrito and 30 hot sauce packets I’ll unassign the order. Things like 2 mini chicken sliders on the order red flag. Be cautious. Though it can happen to any order these are what I mostly found to be disputed. Like I said when I message them a picture of the house or Apt building and number they think crap he’s proving he’s here so I’ll mark it items missing or miss handled. I’ll staple the restaurant bag or tie it or use sticker label from dollar tree to secure the bag then take a pic. So far this avoided a violation except if they didn’t catch onto the additional photos and still reported it missing. Just carefully observe your orders are complete even though you can’t see inside a sealed bag. When something feels off take pics. I usually can tell when something is not right. If a customer ignores your message or calls red flag. Be cautious they may be looking for you to make a mistake to pounce on you.
It's not o ly the delivery services, sadly passenger drivers are going thru the same ridiculous payment offers. I had previously kept my acceptance rate high and cancelation rate low. Sample offers are 20 minutes to pickup for a 2 mile drop-off. That's maybe $4 for a 25 minute drive (plus must wait 5 to 7 minutes before paid cancel by driver, maybe$3 after the wait). Passengers and delivery service customers think it's the drivers; it's not it's the service provider that we go thru. My non acceptance will plummet and cancelation rise until these apps realize who makes their service
How can the customer say their food is missing when you take a photo of the food at their door or place of business, or at least drivers are suppose to, I follow a dasher on here on youtube and she takes a photo of the food at their door every time, so that doesn't happen where a customer says their food is missing.. or do they say an item of food from the bag is missing, if that's the case, then drivers need to start taking a photo of the food in the bag before dropping it off so they can't say the driver took it, it would be the restaurants fault for not putting the item of food in the bag. Know what I mean? not sure if you meant they never received their food, or that an item of food was missing..
Yeah, I tried making it almost full time. Some days I could make &100 bucks. Other days I would dash four to six hours, I accept every call, even the super cheap. That's how I got to platinum level. Yes you will get cheapies. Just take them. Your orders will get more money & more often.
Honestly Sara I agree with you. There is no way I could do this full time. I am luck to get more than $15 an hour on DD, and don’t even get me started on Uber Eats. I really don’t do much DD or UE anymore. I mainly rely on Catering deliveries for the majority of my $. However, I am working on getting my Life and 7:37 Health Ins license and I will be going back into Insurance which is what I did most of my career. But this time I will be on the sales side vs the claims side. I hope that by January I can give up the gig apps altogether.
I'll say this i do doordash occasionally. It is a real problem that drivers do steal food. Even me being working doordash driver. I bought a large doordash order, and it was large for me and my roommate. I tipped pretty decently because of the quantity of the order. I got a Notification stating my driver couldn't find my place so i sent a text with the address and a maps exact location. Then a couple minutes later it said my order was dropped off when it wasn't, so i ended up calling the number it range the first two times i called then the third went straight to voice mail. That driver stole a 40 dollar order with a 10$ tip. Hate to say this, but i havent tipped as well whenever i order doordash anymore even though im a driver myself.
I agree with that with the it's busy in your area hop on. It's intisising you to get on. But also how can u take food ifs it's completely sealed off.???
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I'm happy that DD deactivated me fuq @tonyxu
How about just paying a reasonable minimum per order? My AR hit zero% yesterday. I spend half my day rejecting disgusting insults. How is this an efficient or serious manner of doing business? We are supply all the labor and supplying a car, gas, insurance, maintenence, and depreciation of said car. Two dollars? These apps are the most un-serious people I have ever encountered in my journey through this life. And that includes circus clowns, comedians, and politicians.
😅 well said
@tyharris9994 I don't use doordash at all..I have been using grubhub it's not like it used To be but I average almost $20.00 per hour
My AR is zero on both door dash and Uber eats. I get nothing but upside down trash orders all day everyday.
I'm a new Dasher and the app keeps telling me I need to keep my AR up to get more better paying offers. I'm at 49%. If I let it go to 5% then all I'm going to get is $2 offers???
@@bml33 Try to stay above 50% for silver status and you'll still get some bad offers but more worthwhile offers too. I still get the occasional $2 order as well as the occasional $25 order.
We lost my husband to covid-19 early in March of 2020. We depend on delivery, both of my parents have dementia and I don't know what we would have done during the worst of the pandemic. Every time I got sick it was after a trip to the grocery store. On top of dementia my dad is in heart failure. I can't count on the caregivers that are supposed to come to allow me a few hours break. I appreciate all the delivery people who save me having to drag my parents out. Thank you for what you do. I'm sorry the companies don't pay you what you are worth.
Thank you. We make most of our money on tips and unfortunately we have no idea what the tip is until after the delivery so I have found that a lot of times there's no tip at all. I appreciate people like you and I'm happy to help even if I'm not the Dasher in your area
I've learned that if they send u a message saying they r busy it usually means there is one really bad offer that no one else wants so they would like to see if you would take it. Please.
Exactly!!!
For real!
6 or 7 bad offers in fact! So busy!
Frfr
😂
If I were DD I would stop gaslighting drivers over the Acceptance Rate.
That part!
No one wants to take $2 orders 👏🏻
You`re better off getting a security guard job watching a roll-up door or fence while watching movies all night. At least in a security guard overnight position, you`re getting paid a guaranteed wage every day, every week.
I do security and Uber
Point made!
Best job ever, and I'll never do anything else!
When I move to the city, that's what I plan on doing. I was a security guard in Houston for years, I loved guarding warehouses, industrial sites and such. Best job ever because you mostly work alone. I think overnights might be hard for me now that I'm older, but I'm hoping I could get used to it. On my off time I will definitely be doing Uber eats and Doordash, but will be nice to know I don't have to rely on those for income.
Another reason, they say go to Shaws or Stop and Shop, for 1 item, and you get there and it's a trunk full with 2 cases of water..
I’ve been on both ends as a driver and a customer I think it’s crazy how as a customer we’ll pay like $40 for a meal that’s really like $20-$25 but the driver is only getting paid like $5-8 tip included
Uber Eats Has hit an all time low. I’m up to platinum status and can barely make $10 an hour.
Right I hit platinum on Door dash and making less than I was before this status. Getting less order, and not making minimum wage and my gas is getting used up. If I park it seems I’m not getting anything at all. What I’ve noticed too is I can dash any time but the time option seems to be locked 90% of the time. Evening seems to be open often. When the gas prices were higher I was making more than when prices dropped.
Same here
What area are you in because I hate Uber Eats but sometimes I make in one night over $150 doing it but 50 goes back in my gas tank so yeah I make 100 lol. The least amount I've made is (and mind you I only work 4hr no less than 3 hrs a day) $47.36, but that's because I only worked for 1hr and 12 minutes that day
@ that’s good if you make that every day I’ve made that but not often. On a good day 100 in2-3 after 5. Every zone makes a difference and if your either by time compared by order. Days mids are within maybe 60 in 2 hrs. Zones I hate to say it’s bad to low budget areas. Door Dash figures u out when u work a certain area and make money then gives you the 2-3 dollars or 4 dollars to spread dashers money around. I do over 300 dashes per month. I’ve been dashing for over 2 years but know for sure 150 is not possible every day where I’m at for 4-6 hrs. I’ve made 300 in all day dash but it’s pushing it. My truck usually needs to be fueled every day 65 dollars. Most dashes are usually far but without excepting them by time is best for me. By time I’ve doing good on occasions but not often. Dashes have been dad lately here. Making 20 is 50% chance by hr. But time of day depends. Door dash has been locking my time. Then lots of those small orders. If you do them anyways then other days they will give you high paying orders. I’m a platinum dasher but still get those crap dashes. Door Dash at times will give you a week or 2 weeks to get good money then down to low pay.
That should show you that Platinum status isn’t worth 💩.
I use DD often and my family n friends are Dashers, I agree with DD pay and I consider myself a good tipper, what is DD paying? I've experienced many times my food being stolen as well, if you're not being paid well and the food you're delivering is fresh and tempting, I guess it is what it is. DD, if you're watching, pay your workers real money please
You're right but that's why I also drive passengers. I don't take deliveries for under $20/hr. It's because the delivery customers are not tipping. I don't gamble on a cash tip at the door.
Drivers come, drivers go, and the Gig Economy is constantly changing, but many of us also stand our ground and keep on going! Stay safe out there everyone!
Last week was the end for me. Goodbye to all gig apps! Hope you all have better luck in your metro
I am 79 yr old partially disabled female, so I need and depend on my food delivery! I live in rows of apartments, and the driver has repeatedly left my food three doors down. The first time it happened, I called with a missing food report, only to be told it was delivered. I called my granddaughter to straighten it out for me, only to find out it was three doors down. She had to go and take it off another person's porch. We have placed detailed instructions, as well as placed a small table next to the door with those detailed delivery instructions, only to have it happen again, two more times. Once, I waited at the door only to see the driver park down there. I opened the door and asked if it was my order... and it was! So, we are not always saying we are not receiving the food only to cheat the restaurant and the driver. I need my driver, I tip my driver and still worry about my order!
Give the instructions HAnd it to me instead of leaving at the door and that will solve your problems.
Sorry to hear that.
I want to make a few suggestions:
Get a unique door mat, make sure your apt./house numbers are legible, make sure your door/address is well lit and add special instructions in the app.
Also maybe ask them to call or text you upon arrival.
The app. shows the driver a picture of your front door and also all of the special instructions.
That's because they let anyone with a pulse deliver. I think it's ridiculous that good people lose opportunities while incompetent people who can't speak English or follow directions are employed. I work next to a Burger King and Doordash drivers daily walk in and shove a phone in someone's face and they yell "Doordash" you look at their phone it says Burger King and we have to direct them to the building next door. Everyday new drivers circling the parking lot with their hazards on not understanding their own job.
OMG spot on!! I live in VA nothing racist but they don't understand English, instructions nothing, using fake accounts and u wonder why all drivers seen as bad WTH u don't understand 💩 demand food u in wrong restaurant anyone with a pulse u so right 👍
Nothing less than $5, and if that it can't be more than 3 miles
Yeah, I don't pay that "It's busy" mess no mind. I do my routine times, and I'm done
The first couple times I received those messages I was running out the door! Not any more, I know better.
Yeah, I know better now as well especially after watching this video.
Same here
I ran out one time when I got an "It's busy" message. It takes me a few minutes to get to town because I live in the country. I sat for 45 minutes because it was no longer busy. At least now that I'm platinum I don't have that issue anymore. I have learned what times are usually busy though and only dash during those times.
Door Dash used to pay $5 base per delivery I think. Now they're splitting the profit and taking the money for themselves. Looks like paying only $1 per mile now 😂😂😂 Door Dash founder went to Stanford just to learn how to steal
Same here in Scotland can’t make any decent money anymore. The apps are all the same it’s done. I will be leaving to start a new job soon. Great vid thx
When the customers claim they didn’t get the food it actually hurts the restaurant, I own 2 restaurants and DoorDash takes the money directly from the restaurant when they get a complaint, then we need to dispute the claim and show proof we bagged the correct food. We now have cameras that just film the takeout bagging station so we can show proof.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT TIPS?
I got kicked off of UberEats cuz they were getting reports (bogus) that I was stealing food! Ridiculous!
I’ve found that many, if not most drivers are intentionally being dishonest with themselves about their actual earnings, or they don’t have the skills to figure it correctly. As a rule, when asked about their income, most drivers report the amount BEFORE any deductions.
- deduct your gas cost
-deduct cost of wear on your car
-deduct approx 25-30% for taxes and social security.
-deduct cost if purchasing additional “gig” auto insurance
Divide the deducted figure by the amount of hours you spent on the app- NOT the active time.
0:15 Most will see that your “take home” is equal or less than your state’s minimum wage.
On the rare occasion that you had an exceptionally profitable shift and feel the need to advertise that on whatever site, this only entices more new drivers to join up because they think it’s the norm
I deduct gas and then I see what I made. Nothing else. I average 9 to 15 an hour. Sometimes 20. I usually get decent orders . You are not going to make a lot of money. It's meant for extra money not a living
Tax and expenses are definitely not that much
That will not be accurate. Irs per mile rate expense is .67 cents a mile. So income minus .67 a mile minus other expenses.....then net income. Then taxes on net. And u think door dashers are paying gig insurance?
Doordash sends out unreasonable text to drivers complaining about you late when they know it's rush hour which is annoying.I used to make good money years ago not anymore
As a 70 yr old falling at a delivery today after drop off, missed step down the walkway, lost my balance. Wow I can get up fast when you’re embarrassed in their front yard 😂. Maybe it’s time to quit 🥺🤷🏻♀️
Take your time going down the steps. Use a small flash lite at nite. Becareful.😊
Got to watch those steps. For awhile I thought it was mainly millennials and gen z who did these delivery apps but it seems like most ubereats drivers that delivery to my house are older than me. When you think about it, it can be a good side hustle for retired people that are bored staying home all day but don't want to work a full-time job.
Oh no, I hope you're okay!
@@KentPetersonmoney or due to health issues not being able to do a full-time regular job where you must people up if you have to call out because you’re not feeling well. For those with chronic illnesses.
Hope you’re OK not too bruised, etc.
Your reading of Doordash is accurate. I will not take a job where the money is not at least double the mileage. As a result I quit dashing. No money anymore.
I hope you make some money out of your channel. Good luck!
My area is incredible for dashing. Deliveries are never more than four miles, and the pay is usually an average of $8 per run. I've done this full time now for 3 years. I work 10 hour shifts Mon thru Fri. In 50 hours it is rare that I make less than $1400 a week. My average so far this year is $1427 a week. It's crazy how some areas are very different. I dash in Indiana. Also I have not paid a dime in taxes. You can write it all off with your mileage. No boss breathing down my neck and I watch movies all day while I work. I love it.
Great what state and city?
Some of the best zones are ones with a military base nearby and no huge cities (population over a few hundred thousand). Military bases are full of hungry and tired soldiers that have to get up super early to do PT (physical training) and you need to sign up for a pass in order to get inside the base which not everyone has which adds an element of excusivity. If there aren't any big cities nearby it can be even better because many big cities are expensive to live in which leads to lots of people delivering as a side gig for extra money. I live in a zone like that and routinely get multiple $40+ offers daily. Also it's in the snowiest non-mountain area in the world which makes it even busier especially on the military base because many people there come from areas that never get snow.
@mohammadkhan218 I dash in Indiana. I would never say what city it is. This area is small but extremely busy and not oversaturated with dashers. Would like it to stay that way.
So you say you work 10 hours 5 days a week just to make that much money you're beating up your car putting all those miles on your car not to mention when you got to repair them plus gas yeah you may not be paying taxes but you're paying out of pocket . Why would you want to work that many hours if you're working for yourself anyways you should be able to work less hours and make more money that's not profitable to work that many hours.
@@Hugh_Vincent It seems like the smaller areas are the ones with the better order to driver ratio. Big cities tend to be expensive to live in so the driver to order ratio is worse for drivers there since more people need side gigs. My zones biggest cities have a population of under 25,000 and a military base with a little more than 16,000 and there are some days where theres a steady flow of non stop offers for multiple hours in a row
I just got offered a $3.75 double order: two different restaurants, two different houses. I declined.
I got the same thing for $3 and 7.5 miles one way! 🤦♀️
That's gross. Two people tipped less than one dollar and the app thought you'd want to do both.
Good grief
I was offered $2.75 for two different pick ups from Pizza Hut yesterday. The total miles was over 3!! I clicked decline so fast lol 😂
Same here 😔😣
What's crazy is the Big Corp always benefits in the end
I worked my butt off and finally got my AR up to 80 and my orders to 100 so since I have been platinum I’ve getting amazing orders I was out yesterday for 2 hours and made $74
Great news
That's the only way 80 and above, AR...I will never let my AR drop ever again drop bellow 80%. I had 60% AR when I started Dashing and it sucks, you get shytty orders, they know you refusing everything and won't give you good orders. They will do it for spite, trust me i know been there done that. Now I rarely get bad orders. And now I do alot of shopping, Target, win dixie, CVS, Dollar General. Liquor stores ABC, TOTAL WINE, If you have great surrounding strip malls and such in your area 🤷🏾♂️👋🏽
I'm in the process of doing the same! Two days ago, my acceptance rate was 4%. I'm at 39% as of tonight. My goal is to be at a minimum 50%, trying for 70%, though, so I can start getting the really good orders again, especially on the day before Thanksgiving. All of my other ratings are great (shop & regular), so once I get my AR up, I'll be making much better money. 😉
Yeah I’m a patina dasher too and was out 45 hours and made 200$ u gotta accept all dashes even the shitty ones
Same I usually do pretty good. Sometimes I help out and take a crap order since I'm right there and then get compensated with good orders. I'm also platinum . My acceptance rate is 92 percent
People can be so crappy! To tip just 2.00 for someone to go to a location and then bring you food , no matter how far they have to travel, is 💩💩
I'm still not convinced DD isn't stealing tips.
It's weird that I make almost exactly $20 per hour for the night almost to the penny.
And DD keeps your tips up to 30 days wth
@@pcgod718they keep your tips up to 30 days. Look it up in the app. Customers tell me thank you ive tipped so i messaged DD support and they told me to read the rules in app
Maybe they sre poor or sick
I'm going through the same thing as a door dash driver..and I agree with you 100 percent. It is really sad how people are really saying that they didn't get their food and door dash does not pay the drivers like they used to. Thank you for this!
Definitely agree that this is not a full time job they ruined it we use our car and gas we should be properly compensated
Meanwhile 12 rolls of bounty are $40 at a wholesale club
Around here they are a lot cheaper than that from a regular store.
New dashes get the goods old dashes get the junk
I hate when the map is red and when you log on it says 13-23 min lol!
I think its based on AR. I have a 82% AR and a friend of mine has a under 50%. His timer shows 3 to 5 mins while mine will show longer.
They get more offers quicker then me but they are also lower paying higher mileage. While I to get some crap, most my orders are profitable. End of the day I usually make $25 up to 40$ an hr avg. they make $18 up to $24 avg.
@@vikings7683 where u making $30+ an hour
13-23 munites when the map is red😮....you need to move to a different area. My map when I dash is always 1-5, 1-3, or in slow times maybe 2-7. But 13- 23 mins is not good... I would quit.😢...
The prices they charge for delivery and they are still only offering $2 per run if there isn't a tip added... Crazy... I gave up after a few months, the first month was great.
I'd be more transparent with customers who order... They should know that all the delivery fees do not go to the driver's. They should be more up front that tipping ensures drivers will take their order, less likely drivers will decline... It should also provide estimated mileage and give a tip recommendation, say at least $1 a mile, but $2 a mile would be fantastic
Yep it goes down once a twice a year. It was over three base pay when I started but I heard a few years before that it was a six dollar base pay minimum.
I live in an area where I am like one of the only Uber Eats drivers. There are others but at night I’m like one of the only ones. One night I was curious. I opened the customer Uber Eats app and looked at one of the closest restaurants. It wasn’t accepting orders because “all couriers are busy”. I went online and suddenly it was accepting orders but at a $20 delivery fee! Meanwhile all they’d probably give me is $2.50 out of that $20 fee!
@@KetoSimple Door dash is afraid of lack of orders if they mention a tip but lets be honest last time I looked they recommended tip amount and I also always tip in person a minimum of $5.00 so at least the gas and car maintenance can be done!!!
Delivery services were most profitable during the pandemic.
Yes! They were great! Now ppl just get out themselves more and the ones still using it, just got used to the convenience and now don’t tip like they used to. IMO In 2020/2021 Uber Eats was my best paying/tipping app. I always made 200 or more a night on weekends. I miss those days. I don’t do any gig work anymore because it was just a waste of time for me personally in my area.
I’m a uber driver here in Houston for the past 8 years. And I got penalized and my account got deactivated the beginning of this year from customers stating I stole the food when I NEVER DID. So all I did was after a month a sign up with uber with a different email and back on the road again. But the money is not the same anymore that’s for sure. And not everyone tips
Side gig i hope? No one can live off Uber. Not even if they live with their mommy and daddy
Good observation with the double Door Dash notifications for the customer and dasher. I hadn't picked up on that one.
I will say customers aren't the only ones stealing food though, and to be fair I haven't had a contract violation from a customer reporting their food wasn't delivered in a long time (knock on wood lol). Unfortunately, the dashers do it too and it seems like it's the new dashers that do. It's happen to me far more times than I've received a CV. I'll arrive at the merchant to pickup my order only to be told that it was already picked up. That infuriates me bc it ends up punishing me for being an honest dasher. You never get ahead or benefit from stealing really. Someone always pays the price. That's the whole idea of the saying "there is no free lunch." Sometimes it's all parties involved that are affected even the theif. I'd say that's the case for the Door Dash theft in general.
The other huge factor with the inconsistency of business for dashers (specifically on a weekly basis) is the constant cycle of new dashers added to the platform. As you said dashers are quitting, but that means new ones are added to replace them. Dashers come and go. It's a huge revolving Door. The very thing Door Dash does to keep new dashers engaged is what leads them to eventually quit! It's crazy! New dashers (or dashers who haven't dashed in a long time) are the ones who are truly prioritized. They get the best orders, but it only lasts so long. I don't know exactly how long, but I think it's to assist them in getting their 1st 100 orders. Once they eventually experience what is more the norm and the orders aren't as good they stop dashing! Meanwhile longterm, trustworthy dashers who know what they're doing suffer through the ups and downs of business/dashers coming and going when we are the ones who should be thrown the more meaty bones once in awhile. I get it that you wanna hook new dashers in but not to the extent they do it. It ends up having the opposite effect! They need to calm down a little bit with sending the better orders to the new dashers to make it a little more smoother for the longterm dashers you would think they'd also want to keep! So I don't even think the inconsistency has so much to do with how many orders are coming in as it does with the way the algorithm works to prioritize new dashers, which is often!
Lastly, ever since the rewards program started the platform has never been so oversaturated with dashers. Unfortunately, it's also been my suspicion that starting this past fall around late Sept/early Oct they oversaturated the markets with an even higher # of dashers allowed on at the same time in all the markets. Some markets are hurt by it more than others. Mine seems to get hit pretty hard by it. The business was awful in October and yet Door Dashes stock was up on the daily throughout that time. The year before I remember it remaining surprisingly pretty steady.
Very sad customers will lie a lot to get free food. Stay out low income neighborhoods sorry to say it. And I'm a black man just had to say it
I'm black I agree 👍 in VA OMG the hood are a bunch of liars scammers
If I ran DoorDash the first and most important thing I'd do is change base pay to be comparable to miles. I would start pay at 0.90c/mile + tips. And if the zone surges you can increase it. Because wading through traffic and populated areas is increased risk and work. At the very least it would HELP make some trips make SOME sense instead of giving you trash offers you end up messing up your AR.
.90 cents a mile is a joke you realize most won’t take anything nowadays unless it’s $2.00 a mile
I agree. People ordering food over 5mi from restaurant need to Pay Up! I'm sick of these $9 for 10mi crap
@@menards23ableI think he's saying base pay $3 plus 90c a mile. Then a 5 mile order is $7.50 min before tip
busy doesn't mean money.
The chef’s kiss is the ad I got for this video is recruiting new dashers 😂
😆🤣🤣 oh man
I don't do doordash much mainly because I try to keep my income under $600. If I make more then I might need a 2nd 1099 forum which would cause me extra to file. To answer your question I have doordash set up to where it gose into my emergency fund. No money comes out of that account unless there's an emergency like having to get my wisdom teeth removed or if I lose my job out of the blue. By the way I finally started Walmart spark.
I like your strategy. How has Spark been?
You do not have to pay extra for another 1099, they all get added together, and you pay one price. So does not matter if you have 20 different 1099 jobs, price is the same for 1 or 20, makes no difference.
Depends ehere you go@@vikings7683
If they would just pay better base operation would run much smoother, customers would wanna order often cause they dont have to tip 10$ to get their shot
Last night I got tons of offers but most weren’t worth taking. I made $55, just banking in tips growing before Christmas.
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Well for one they charge a lot for ordering something that cost 7or8 for a meal and you're paying 22 dollars and your food is cold or soggy and so people stop using Uber eats or door dash ,the big companies are making a fortune,so I cook my own food and i take my own food to work to avoid using those apps to bring me food.
Dude after gas and stuff $15 is not $15 it's more like $9 which isn't even minimum wage! I quit gig driving to get a full-time job cuz I couldn't pay my bills anymore. I now use it and I would never pay less the $5 for tip and I pay more if they do something like I've asked them to get me extra ginger a few times, ur getting more money for that. I appreciate them bcuz I was them.
I feel that door dash should pay drivers accordingly to where they are located when sent an offer. Because if one driver is 3 miles from a restaurant while another driver is in the restaurants parking lot, the offer shouldn’t be the same for both drivers. If door dash sends the offer to the further away driver then the base pay should be more. But I know that’ll never happen lol when people will always take $2 orders going 3 or 4 miles 😂
Yeah Florida seem like a shitty ass market lol
I am disabled and depend on delivery services...by the time they raise the item price of what you are purchasing, add the service fee, taxes, delivery fee and small order fee I can barely provide a tip. When a driver forgets something, which happens, or does not follow delivery instructions it is a big deal to those of us who cannot do it for ourselves. I despise that I have to call back and forth to try and get a resolution. If you order directly from a restaurant app that uses doordash to deliver, doordash will take no responsibility for their drivers' errors. And the restaurant won't because doordash delivered. This is beyond frustrating
Yes restaurants used to hire their own drivers that was better
Its beyond me why anyone still doing DD! The purpose of having a side hustle is to spend a few hours to make some money. NOT to spend a few hours sitting in your car wasting time not making money!
@kittykay8015 She does it because it makes her money off of doing youtube videos. ( nothing wrong with doing that) because no person with any common sense would do this job.
they also use customers tips to offset what door dash pays you .
I've had delivery drivers leave my order at wrong address, arrive at my door, take a photo then walk off with my order and even had one who didn't bother driving to my home but instead took a photo on the lawn next to the restaurant and mark it delivered. So in my case the dishonesty has been from drivers side only.
It's just ridiculous and I'm glad I'm not the only one that sees this is a JOKE!!
Lucky you, I don't even have a gopro
There's nothing they can do. They can't charge more for delivery to pay drivers more because then the cost of the meal to the customer will not be feasible to order. Ordering food from a restaurant online for a 3rd party to deliver is not sustainable. Unless Doordash was to go to a subscription model then maybe. With Walmart, customers can sign up and pay for Walmart + and get free or discounted home delivery so Walmart is making revenue from those customers that they can pay to the Spark gig driver. Doordash is just adding a fee to the food order and people are not going to keep buying if their meal cost keeps going up.
People that order that don't tip flat out don't deserve anything
That's why i never pay for unnecessary services
The customer shouldn't have to pay the whole thing though...
@daredeardeal7901 these gig corporations are flat out crooks..It was never designed for people that can barley pay for the meal..It's for people that can afford to be lazy .. Common sense tells anyone that a stranger is using there own vehicle and most importantly their OWN TIME. Seeing that whoever placed the order didn't want to get the food or whatever themselves they should take care of the person willing to bring it to them. The platform and the diner both need to pay the driver but 80%of what the drivers make are from the appreciation from the one that placed the order.. Any particular delivery is minimum 15 to 20 min to pick up the order and deliver it. SO HOW MUCH IS 20 MIN OF YOUR TIME WORTH...Remember you didn't even want to go get it for yourself...Hmmm a driver should make a minimum of $7.00 per 15 min ..that's only $28.00 a hour minus gas. Sometimes or a lot of times the driver is 5 to 10 miles away from the pick up location then 1 to 5 miles to drop off.
Also...the company should NOT charge the customer all those fees.
I'm a dasher and I do understand why the tips from the customer may be small.
Those apps. charge the customer fees and expect them to give EXTRA money for a tip.
The companies is who I really BLAME.
They are making all the money...and doing little to no work.
I’ve had several instances where food was legitimately missing, cold, etc, instances where the driver was more interested in talking on the phone than paying attention, etc. I tip based on how well you do your job. I’m currently disabled and depend on delivery for just about everything. Do your job well, care about the people you’re serving, and you’ll typically be compensated well with tips.
I have several friends who work at restaurants and bars and make a killing in tips, because they do their jobs well.
In North Carolina, we don't see how much money we’ll receive before accepting the order, and customers often don't tip, which is also frustrating.
Yes, Doordash obviously wants illegals instead of Americans to work for them. The majority of the dashers in my area I run into don't speak English since they reduced how much we make by 1/3 in the spring. I thought it must be over saturated but I keep getting messages they want me to refer people for a bonus
Hey Lady , well at least you've got good weather ! All we can do is get ready to go out and hope we have a good day .Have a good night .
I live in Jackson MS, most orders average 4 dollars and rarely I'll get an 8 dollar order once a dash, maybe 3 orders a week 10 or above. All my rates are good, acceptance at 70%.
The 1 thing I would do, if I were DD, is I would base the base pay according to mileage. Maybe a $2 minimum, with 50 cents more per mile when over 5 miles. So, on a 10 mile food delivery, the base pay alone would be $4.50, and then they tip over that.
I've been done for over two months. Still make 💰 with Spark, Roadie and Shipt. Stay safe
Sara - did you opt in to take Christmas trees 🎄 to their new homes? 99.9% sure that was on Uber eats today. I’m not totally sure if they put it up on top of your car and then the customer helps you get it down but I’m not taking any chances. No way in hell can I move/lift a Christmas tree.
Also scratches to your car
When I first started delivering, I was taking everything I could get and I was making okay money. Then I got selective, started driving less and making less also. Some of them $2 fairs tip after the delivery and that was why I was making more when I wasn't selective. Not being selective was leaving me an hour drive to get home and often getting fuel twice I a 10 hour shift. Although it seemed like I was making more not being selective, I really wasn't because I was just working harder and driving more. It's newer drivers that are naive like I started that are taking all them smaller fairs and the companies count on that. I went from 95% acceptance to 15% and there is no going back seeing them $1 tips hurts my heart and stresses me out, I'm not being taken advantage of like that anymore.
That sucks. Maybe they need to pay an hourly rate like waitressing.
DoorDash does. its called Earn by time. In my area it varies between $16 to $17 and ACTIVE hr. So from when you pick up until drop off, you make a set amount plus tips.
Personally I have been using it more and more and make from $25 yo $40 an hr, in my market.
Pay has gone to trash. All orders are double orders for 10 miles $6 or something stupid
Yep 🤦🏽♀️😮💨
Yeah doordash don't pay enough and if you're not careful they rip you off to
First off the $2 per order is ridiculous
2nd change wording on the customer app (service fee)
3rd maybe mandatory charge a fee for tipping
I am having the same issue long miles no pay or sitting I live in Oklahoma
I'm so glad doordash rejecting my app. That's crazy!!
Well, for GH in my experience the distance tends to be further but you sit waiting for offers a bit more, DD are shorter trips = less $, but more offers, you can opt to get paid per hour plus tips, which often that's the way to go. GH you can just sign on and pick up some extra $$, not DD. It all really depends on your needs
That happened to me when they said they were busy. They put me under review last week. I don’t know why. Maybe someone said their food was missing. Which people be lying. Door dash should pay better and these people need to tip better. It pisses me off to get penalized because you decline an offer with low pay. It’s not fair and not worth it!
They are also lying to dashers about the miles for some of the orders. I accepted a $11 order for 9 miles and it ended up being 17 miles and it wasn't the first time. If everyone stops accepting bad orders then there won't be any bad orders. Platinum is a joke, no need to try to get it
See I thought I had only noticed this. They definitely bate you false miles to destination
The sad part is us customers are overcharged on the food, which doesnt even include the fees and the obligated tip. None of us win besides the greedy companies.
I think alot of people are tanking their AR and getting mad they dont get orders. I keep mine above 70 and can make 200 - 300 a day on DD in a tiny town.
The app will give you a small order then will give a larger one to balance it out. Most people ive met get greedy and mess their money up by tanking their AR. Gotta play the game
Yep, and it won't be that busy. I don't sit longer than 5 min. I'm glad they improved their proof system.
None tippers also love to give drivers extra things to do
You are very correct
Im a Dasher with over 4322 miles And You are right On the money with everything, i do Uber now And its not enough gas For that. 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
I generally do passengers on Lyft in Pittsburgh market but I'm 45 miles from the city, and Jan and Feb is dead on Lyft during the week. I've recently been messing around with doordash in my neighborhood. The hourly guarantee seems to be the way to go. In my market it's essentially an hourly rate+tips. On Friday it was 22.25/hr plus tips. I made 105 in 3.5 hrs, which was decent. For me, it's less time/miles, and I can stay close to home. My plan is to dash during the week and Lyft on the weekend this winter. I average 30+/hr on Lyft during the week and 40+ on the weekend, pretty much April through December. It's only good on weekends during the winter. The rest of the year i can make 1k+ in 30hrs or less on Lyft. I think both can be full time employment with a good strategy. I'd be hard pressed to find anything else with the flexibility or making amount of money I make with Lyft. I literally made 1600 in 38hrs a few weeks back. I'd be lucky to make that much with a CDL, especially being home every day.
When I did Uber and lyft, I made more than my son who is an employee of the state and makes 6 figures. Becauae he has to pay into the officers retirement fund and all that other stuff and mine was just mine.
Wow good information. Thank you
If i owned door dash etc i would inform the customer what the druver would earn per hour with their tip or lack thereof and put a disclaimer that if the rate of pay is below state minimum wage they might not receive their order or receive it very late. The requests should allow to post cash tip promises and if the customers renege we can report them and not be matched with them. One strike and you're out.
TOO MANY ILLEGALS IN THE MARKET. TRUMP BETTER GET TO WORK
Here is the problem I have with the whole "illegals" argument. AMERICANS are creating these accounts and selling them to whoever. AMERICANS are providing them housing and work. Why is there nothing ever mentioned to punishing the AMERICANS who are aiding these people?
Same thing in my area I ordered food it said Maria young Hispanic some big old Mexican dude dropped off shady
💯🎯 yep, food delivery drivers we some of the first jobs they took from US citizens. People say then we should get a more skilled job...that is until they start taking their jobs because they aren't bilingual
Can illegals get hired ? how I had to provide ss license picture insurance registration background check and not working anymore food delivery dosent pay.
@kaliconnect9014 they use their relatives I'd and insurance to set up an account but illegals actually do the delivery. Most don't even speak English.
Your telling the truth I just came back to door dash. I have only done two orders and got about 20.00
Here in Central California you have to get schedules and there is hardly ever dash now.
I believe that type of messaging started years ago with Lyft/Uber. Those apps would show a map of where you are and show areas via colors of busy. So, you would drive towards that area. The closer you got the graph bubble would just go further away.
Also, all those apps make the customer right most of the time. The customer can just accuse. The driver has to go through hell to prove themselves. I quit that world long ago. When they first hit the scene the money was crazy! I mean I knew people that quit their full time jobs to be in the gig economy. Then in a year or two the bonuses disappeared or were less in what they offered. The cut the drivers would get was crazy low all of a sudden. Then we learned how much the company was getting. It was pointless to do that nonsense.
I hope folks make it but I have NO plans of going back. Not even if they change for the better. I just don't trust them. Because there really is no protection. It's like a state that has that cowardly setup of "right to work". That's when an employer can drop you for ANY reason and not have to tell you. So, you as a person can't improve or put up a defense that might result in a lawsuit. I'm just done with that world. Good luck to those sticking with it.
I tried to see whats the cost for order. About 2 miles away the food itself cost 15$ but after fees its 30$. Thats not including tip yet. Crazy high fees
I have a lot of times that my McDonald's does not have my order correct. I am waiting for a refund since November 4th and I have yet to receive it I think with all the added things of tax bags food delivery charge and then you're supposed to get a delivery tip on top of all that you were just charged on top of your food. That's why you're getting such low tips
I don't think it's just that the area is busy, it's also because they don't have enough drivers delivering, like you can check it out at like 2 am and it'll say it's super busy, they likely just don't have anyone driving, not necessarily that they're busy like having alot of orders. . .My overall theory about it is this there are pros and cons if they cap the amount of drivers in an area because people do this type of work due to schedule flexibility there may not be enough people to cover the orders at certain times then they might have to consider making it a rule that you have to adhere to a schedule or get paid by the hour and have that as a set payment. But since they leave it how it is the sky is the limit on driver availability (imo) any time they've got coverage . .now I think it also depends on your area, like where I live for instance the population is growing at a very rapid pace so while there are lots of drivers there is also lots of business and quite a variety of incomes and personalities, meaning some can and do tip huge and some can only do so much so it kinda evens out, some people get pissy about $2 for 5 miles but then your next order might be $30 for 4 miles, like I told a fellow dasher in my area, ya gotta take the lean with the fat, it all works out in the end.
What I wanted to add yes your right on reported it missing. Apartments and certain areas or like tons of people living at a home, homes with multiple homes within it or orders with too many instructions are red flags. So under message the customer I click on the photo then take a picture of the apartment building number or house, building ect and send it to them to let them know I’m at the right location. Just be very careful guys you verified the street and numbers first and not rush yourself you could be wrong. Most drivers follow the pin on the map and not verify the street, building ect. Some apartments will have for example building A 101-108 and B, C, D 101-108 as well but not all do but it can be a simple mistake. I will take extra pictures on my phone just in case delete them later. Expensive orders or orders under a few bucks mostly but can happen within 10. Sometimes credit cards will only let you be a few bucks under your balance to processed. These are likely to be disputed so their account is not under withdrawn or their short on gas money and they need it for that. Any time someone says please don’t loose my order 🙏🙏🙏🙏 Thank you! (red flag.) Take tons of pics. If there is a Taco Bell order for example 1 bean burrito and 30 hot sauce packets I’ll unassign the order. Things like 2 mini chicken sliders on the order red flag. Be cautious. Though it can happen to any order these are what I mostly found to be disputed. Like I said when I message them a picture of the house or Apt building and number they think crap he’s proving he’s here so I’ll mark it items missing or miss handled. I’ll staple the restaurant bag or tie it or use sticker label from dollar tree to secure the bag then take a pic. So far this avoided a violation except if they didn’t catch onto the additional photos and still reported it missing. Just carefully observe your orders are complete even though you can’t see inside a sealed bag. When something feels off take pics. I usually can tell when something is not right. If a customer ignores your message or calls red flag. Be cautious they may be looking for you to make a mistake to pounce on you.
I quit having delivery and just go and do take out. Dominos adds 4.99 delivery charge plus they expect a tip for their overpriced food.
It's not o ly the delivery services, sadly passenger drivers are going thru the same ridiculous payment offers. I had previously kept my acceptance rate high and cancelation rate low.
Sample offers are 20 minutes to pickup for a 2 mile drop-off. That's maybe $4 for a 25 minute drive (plus must wait 5 to 7 minutes before paid cancel by driver, maybe$3 after the wait).
Passengers and delivery service customers think it's the drivers; it's not it's the service provider that we go thru.
My non acceptance will plummet and cancelation rise until these apps realize who makes their service
How can the customer say their food is missing when you take a photo of the food at their door or place of business, or at least drivers are suppose to, I follow a dasher on here on youtube and she takes a photo of the food at their door every time, so that doesn't happen where a customer says their food is missing.. or do they say an item of food from the bag is missing, if that's the case, then drivers need to start taking a photo of the food in the bag before dropping it off so they can't say the driver took it, it would be the restaurants fault for not putting the item of food in the bag. Know what I mean? not sure if you meant they never received their food, or that an item of food was missing..
But according to Tony, we can open an orphanage with the $2 DoorDash pays us! 😂
Yeah, I tried making it almost full time. Some days I could make &100 bucks. Other days I would dash four to six hours, I accept every call, even the super cheap. That's how I got to platinum level.
Yes you will get cheapies. Just take them. Your orders will get more money & more often.
You are completely right !! That's why I quit. It's a great video, thank you.
Btw... New Tampa area.
I quit because every time it says it's busy my timeframe to work is only 30 minutes to an hour
Honestly Sara I agree with you. There is no way I could do this full time. I am luck to get more than $15 an hour on DD, and don’t even get me started on Uber Eats. I really don’t do much DD or UE anymore. I mainly rely on Catering deliveries for the majority of my $. However, I am working on getting my Life and 7:37 Health Ins license and I will be going back into Insurance which is what I did most of my career. But this time I will be on the sales side vs the claims side. I hope that by January I can give up the gig apps altogether.
Now when you report a store is closed they automatically want you to unassign yourself with no pay. 🤦🏾♀️
I'll say this i do doordash occasionally. It is a real problem that drivers do steal food. Even me being working doordash driver. I bought a large doordash order, and it was large for me and my roommate. I tipped pretty decently because of the quantity of the order. I got a Notification stating my driver couldn't find my place so i sent a text with the address and a maps exact location. Then a couple minutes later it said my order was dropped off when it wasn't, so i ended up calling the number it range the first two times i called then the third went straight to voice mail. That driver stole a 40 dollar order with a 10$ tip. Hate to say this, but i havent tipped as well whenever i order doordash anymore even though im a driver myself.
If I owned DD I would definitely pay the drivers way more and this not paying on two deliveries is ridiculous
I agree with that with the it's busy in your area hop on. It's intisising you to get on. But also how can u take food ifs it's completely sealed off.???
That's why I give additional cash upon delivery