SATSUMA CLAN OVERVIEW - Total War: Shogun 2 - Fall of the Samurai!
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Welcome to my Clan Overview of the Satsuma on Total War: Shogun 2 - Fall of the Samurai! In this Clan Overview I cover the topics of; Clan Traits, Campaign, Clan Unique Units & Army Composition.
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Total War: Shogun 2 - Fall of the Samurai Gameplay Information:
The standalone expansion to the award-winning Total War™: SHOGUN 2 explores the conflict between the Imperial throne and the last Shogunate in 19th century Japan, 400 years after the events of the original game. A dramatic clash of traditional Samurai culture with the explosive power of modern weaponry.
Guide ancient Japan into the modern age, as the arrival of America, Britain and France incites a ferocious civil war which will decide the future of a nation.
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Total War: Shogun 2 - Fall of the Samurai Features:
Dramatic 19th century Japan setting
Based on the backdrop of the Boshin War period, the new campaign starts in 1864, a time of growing resentment against Western colonial power and influence. As Japan begins to modernise and industrialise, the inevitable social and economic changes lead to increasingly militant nationalism and antipathy towards the Shogunate.
6 new playable clans
Play as a clan supporting the Imperial throne, or the last Shogunate:
Shogunate clans: Aizu, Nagaoka, Jozai
Imperial clans: Choshu, Satsuma, Tosa
New foreign powers
The American, British and French nations play an important part in the story of the Boshin war, and your relations with these foreign powers will be integral to unit recruitment and to advancing your technology trees.
New 19th century Japan campaign map
The new island of Ezo extends the SHOGUN 2 campaign map northwards.
Fully refreshed towns and other campaign map features reflect the new time period, with railways making their first appearance in a Total War title.
Campaign map railways
Develop your own railway network to move armies and agents between your regions.
Railways can be sabotaged and transport can be blocked by enemy armies who take control of parts of the line or stations.
39 new land units
Including modern ranged units - such as the Gatling gun and Armstrong gun - controllable in a new third-person mode.
New units can also be recruited from foreign powers, including the British Royal Marines, US Marine Corps and French Marines.
10 new naval unit types with a total of 21 ships
New steam-powered warships, heavily armed with modern artillery.
This new battle type triggers when attempting a naval assault on an occupied enemy port.
The attacking fleet must sail into the harbour and capture the port, running the gauntlet of coastal gun defences.
New land and sea unit interactions
During a land battle, armies can call in offshore artillery support barrages.
Conversely, costal gun emplacements can target enemy ships during port siege battles, when ending their turn within the range of upgraded coastal defences.
Campaign map bombardments: offshore naval units can bombard armies and cities in adjacent coastal areas on the campaign map itself.
3 new agent types
The Foreign Veteran, the Ishin Shishi and the Shinshengumi.
Each new agent has its own skill tree, and Ninja and Geisha agents have had their skill trees updated with new abilities.
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Total War: Shogun 2 - Fall of the Samurai is developed by Creative Assembly.
A tea plantation? Well I...ahem...might need to conquer that for personal use more than anything.
Scavenger626 oh u want it too?
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General Takemori is actually an important person in Japanese history since he led the Satsuma rebellion.
It's really weird when you read the history the first time. He and men from Satsuma led a rebellion against the very regime that they helped to create some years ago.
i think it's because the abolishment of samurai by the emperor and he still want to be a samurai
Irony is that the guy always goes into a rebellion against me from the start
Well, he betrayed me rigth before leading my best army into a siege. I was able to defeat him but then got crushed by the enemy forces.....I hate this guy
The Dude supported the Emperor but didn't like the direction the government was going with the advisors around the young Emperor at the time (pretty much wanted to go to war with Korea, even willing to be the excuse for Japan to go to war with Korea, IE force the Koreans to execute him to force a war between the two), so he retired. Then those of the Satsuma domain (most of the same ones that Saigo Takamori lead during the Boshin War), particularly in Kagoshima (his hometown), started to take positions in the government there and essentially dominating the government there. The central government, (most likely those that just didn't like Satsuma or Saigo Takamori [*cough* those from Choshu *cough*]) wanted to go and disarm Kagoshima, fearing rebellion. This ironically started the rebellion (other factors were there too, I just don't remember them, they did involve the samurai class as a whole, I believe, probably something to do with abolishing the Samurai stipend, would make sense). Then the Satsuma rebels asked Saigo Takamori to get out of retirement and lead them again. He reluctantly did so, I believe he also knew the end result, but didn't feel like he could abandon his fellow Satsuma region-men (if thats even a word).
What differs from the movie, The Last Samurai, among a whole list of things, is that Saigo Takamori always supported modernizing the military, so when the rebellion was in full swing, they fought with modern guns and everything, with i believe one point at the end when they did do a final charge like in the movie, was due in part to them running out of ammunition, not because they wanted a glorious charge to their deaths (though they might have thought, "why the hell not? we are out of ammo anyways").
I knew you could control artillery directly, but I never made the connection that you can recreate the charge in The Last Samurai from the perspective of a gatling gunner
satsuma, the loser of sekigahara, brought tokugawa to its knee... mitsunari must be pleased...
Yep its more like revenge. Revenge of the 2 Western clans. The Satsuma Domain - Descendents of Shimazu Clan & Choshu - Descendents of Mori Clan. They're both part in the Battle of Segikahara till they're defeated & exiled. Now after 250 years, their revenge is complete & the Old Shogunate have paid the price for their clans humiliation. They deserve to be humiliated.
Just like how when the Greeks destroyed Troy, the Trojans remnants technically found Rome and conquered Greece thousands of years later
@@SororitasSimp A fun but wrong theory, the Romans had no relation to the Trojans.
@@donpula6349 The Mori did not engage in Sekigahara and the Shimazu had only 1.500 men in battle, yet both clans were punished by the Shogunate and made tozama-damiyos (outsiders, not allowed to take positions in the government bakufu) despite both clans being very wealthy, the Shimazu especially were the 2nd wealthiest clan in Japan.
@@ComradeHellas Yes I'm awared of that, because of the agreement they made not to send reinforcement & stay out of the battle. After that their reward for neutrality is nothing more but a lie by stripping their possesions in the Aki province & other 2 provinces (owned by Mori) & relocate them in Nagato & Suo provinces that which became the Choshu domain as we know them in the past. This betrayel lead the hatred towards the Shogunate in 2 centuries till the Battle of Toba Fushimi & the fall of the Shogunate era & the rise of the Meiji era. That which both the Choshu & the Satsuma domains will take its place as part of the new imperial government.
There is value to black/red/white bear infantry. If you plan on going republic, they will be your best infantry until realm divide, unless you're willing to lose all your best troops when you switch sides. Keep this in mind, because its certainly better to have black bears than regular line infantry if thats all you have. Especially when you're facing stacks of big bads like Shogitai!
Line In fantry has a lower upkeep though; and Armstrong Guns+Line Infantry with Kneel Fire make any higher tier gun infantry completely unnecessary. So, no real need to go with BB, WB and RB Infantry.
I had the same thought, although I guess not many people go independent often. I myself have only managed to win an independent campaign once, and it was a very uphill battle until I managed to get a decent footing.
Unless you're the Choshu, who have Kihetai which are an infinitely recruitable elite infantry. Which are also easier to recruit than white bear infantry
@@GeassEnabler Kihetai are marginally more expensive to recruit but yeah they're functionally better in every way. Late game SIR outclass them thoroughly though.
Yeah but Kihetai provide morale buffs and can be recruited earlier than SIR by a wide margin
He Starts with 4 Honor
"FOR HONOR!!!"
Damn... its a crime that they didnt give saigo takamori some great traits.. or at least some traits to nod to him being the main general that won the war.
No mention about how the non-related general is the legendary "Last Samurai" Saigo Takamori? (西郷 隆盛)
Except the movie/story of "The Last Samurai" is highly romanticised.
Saigo Takamori didn't fight for samurai values or the way of life, he fought to maintain his social privileges.
Like being able to kill a commoner if he felt like they had wronged him, not having to pay taxes and not having any job aside from war, because that was beneath the Samurai.
He wasn't opposed to modernisation either, he used modern rifles and wore western outfits. He only resorted to more traditional weaponry when he ran out of ammunition.
As a military commander, he wasn't anything special either.
He lost most (if not all) of the battles he fought during his rebellion and he didn't particularly stand out during the Meiji restoration.
In short:
He wasn't a "legendary general", he was just in charge of a futile rebellion which marked the end of the Samurai as they were.
And that's the only reason why he is famous.
@@crusaderofthelowlands3750 Except you're wrong
@@xaviermontoya3105 If you're writing that, I at least expect you to tell why.
@@crusaderofthelowlands3750 Oh sorry wrong thread
@@crusaderofthelowlands3750 But he also led the forces of the Sat-Cho Alliance in the Boshin War.
The fact he led an army to conquer Japan makes him a bit more legendary...
It's be great if you could make a video on FoTS agents. There are more of them in fots than there are in the Sengoku campaign, and the power dynamic isn't a simplistic rock-paper-scissors. Their abilities also sometimes overlap. It'd be cool to see someone else's perspectives on the best use for each of them.
The westernisation trait is great for my style of play, I like to have a foreign veteran in my most expensice army (gatling guns, marines, shogun/imperial guard, Armstrong guns ect) and just before a battle you can send the agent out to harass the enemy force which inflicts some casualties and I think it affects morale, on hard/very hard it can be a life saver.
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What if you want to be a Republic? Going Republic removes all you're Imperial/Shogun infantry. Having a nice stop gap means that you're army is still more effective than standard line while you rebuild your forces.
the last true samurai begins the campaing with no traits or whatsoever.
how disgraceful...
I always feel sad despite having a successful campaign as Satsuma, knowing damn well what happened to Saigo Takamori after the war.
Foreign veteran me tom cruise
Wish there was more advice on what to do when you choose the Republic option. It ain't called the Satsuma 'Rebellion' for nothing.
Going rebellion isn't specific to any clan, so I don't find it worth covering in clan overviews. More of a separate topic for a different video.
I don't think the Satsuma ever wanted to establish a Republic. The rebellion was in opposition to the status, or lack thereof, of the Samurai not the Emperor.
If you wanna be authentic and form a republic you have to be pro-shogun and watch the shogunate get its ass kicked, then flee to Hokkaido and call your republic the "Ezo Republic"
I noticed that the Satsuma AI tends to turn pro- Shogun alot in campaign playthroughs, so I'm guessing that's the "Satsuma Rebellion". But as for the republic, that's a late game thing and is like Realm Divide if you also turned Christian at the same time. Like Realm Divide you should keep in mind how close you're getting to it and prepare. That means getting a good econ going. FoTS rewards you for specializing cities, usually either economic or military. I like making all of my island settlements economic as the AI will rarely attack them and it's not a good idea to ferry troops just to build armies. What you really need to do however, is build police stations everywhere. I built them in every city prior to RD. They are the highest level building which spreads the influence of the faction rather than emperor/shogun. That means that people will immediately start turning pro republic after RD. From there you can level it up to get one of the highest level, which prevents pro emperor or shogun influence from spreading in your territory.
As for units, there isn't much. The Republican infantry are for the most part the same as Imperial and Shogunate infantry, where they differ is the cavalry. Unfortunately, Republican Cavalry are just Sabre cavalry, I think they have one less melee attack with improved morale. They're worthless and I'd avoid them, go for revolver cav or Yari Ki. Which is a shame, because Shogunate Cavalry are useful and Imperial even more since they're carbine cavalry which don't require the carbine research to unlock.
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I have seen the Satsuma turning Pro Shogun as well. But I think it's because they can quickly conquer any Pro Shogunate land around them. So, they find themselves having switching sides and attacking the Saga or whoever else borders them. Just a guess, I don't know much about FotS.
Thanks a ton @MrSmartDonkeyLP I am a big fan of this series and even tho I am still struggling with the higher difficulties XD I have greatly benefited from your knowledge on the game in these videos keep it up man and I would love to see more Total War Shogun 2 stuff since you are currently busy with Total Warhammer 2 which is great but I don't own it so :P
It's a nature of time that the old ways must give in
It's a nature of time that the new ways comes in sin
I found Chosu and Tosa are also important to introduce.
Btw that clan is active still today
"active"
i found the best way to level any general is to stick him onto a ship, preferable Kayo Maru and better, and hunt for ai ships, with proper positioning you can sink the enemy (when attacking) without them ever shooting back. Later on i tend to hunt for the other factions ironclads (best works by using autoresolve, since ships tend to blow up alot during manual combat) and end up with two fleets full of them easily
My strategy was the one you recommended but with less brain cells. Instead of trying to conquer through the main island, I allied with the one clan. Of course just as I approach Kyoto, they break the alliance and I’m sent all the way back. I then just go after tosa and that’s how I got to the mainland.
Don't forget to update the CO playlist ;)
PS. Awesome content!
Fun fact: the black bear, white bear, and red bear infantry are all wearing officer headwear of their respective clan
the only thing I dont like in Fall of the Samurai is the rifle infantries dont have bayonets to counter cavalry meanwhile in Empire Total War most of the line infantries can fight against cavalry effectively
Try the bayonet mod my friend.
Or try darthmod, it is easier
because they kinda don't use bayonet
You need to finish the fots overview series. Its better than anything they have put out since Rome II. And maybe also go over the six rots clans.
Hey so I was wondering what your views on Katana Cav are. Usually i just think of them as weaker than Yari and will only use 5 units of yari and no katana, but ive been watching your takeda series and you seem to kinda like them
They're in my Top 5 Worst Units on Shogun 2.
I understand clearly now
NO MENTION OF Saigō's BADDA$$NESS!! I'm Shocked!!!! He was one of the Three Great Nobles, who led the Meiji Restoration and the eventual, leader of the Satsuma Rebellion, and of the most influential Samurais of the Edo period (and in Japanese history).
Could you do one of these for the Choshu?
When do allies actually matter? What I find in both NTW and STW is that after awhile, all your allies turn against you anyway, so I tend NOT to take any allies and just conquer everyone. Only one I MIGHT consider allying with is Chosokabe, since they are on an island...and I dont like getting ass attacked by landing invasions.
This is my favorite clan because they look like the imperial army from The Last Samurai
It's silly how Creative Assembly branded -10% to the cost of foreign veterans actions as "westernization" :)
If so then when I study more and get better grades it's called "modernization"
Becuas ethey foriegn vets
I have been playing Fall of the samurai for a day now and I was wondering what foreign veterans do so I looked it up and still didn't find anything and still don't know that they do.
Best place to find that kind of information is the in-game encyclopedia.
they train your troops challenge others to combat and sabotage
Thanks for the information
Can you do a video about how you should use the Fall of the Samurai agents?
Bear Infantry are so pointless. I think Bear Infantry should have been made to have shooting capabilities between line infantry and Imperial/Shogunate/Republican Infantry while having the melee attack, defense and charge bonus of Vermilion Bird Force. However Bear Infantry would lack bayonets meaning they would be vulnerable to cavalry due to having no combat bonus to cavalry. Bayonets would be be a feature given to regular infantry meaning even line infantry will have combat bonus vs cavalry of 10
Foreign agents can assassinate Ninjas and the town watch guys who's japanese name I can't remember. They can also challenge general's to single combat and high level ones can be really successful at it. I once took out 4 general's on the march before they could even reach one of my cities. Would still take a ninja over them but really can't complain.
I hope you return to FOTS at some point. It looks fun.
Like it how Saigo Takemori has no traits the guy was crucial during the Boshin war and the Satsuma Rebellion.
May I ask about your best army composition in general? In every clan video you said it would likely be the same. Do you please have it somewhere?
General, 4 Revolver Cav (some people prefer Carbine Cav), 4 Armstrong Guns, the rest whatever the best line infantry you have available is.
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP Thanks, I personally prefer revolver when I play general, but carabine when lazy and play AI
Royal marines between US marines and French Marines.
American Marines have best Melee stats, and French Marines have best range stats.
Most people say American marines are better since they use breech loaders anyways, and the extra melee stats is more useful in seige battles
the advantage using the brits though, is getting the best ship in the game, the warrior. Although since the AI is far to dumb to use ships properly, even your starting Kaiten can sink whole fleets with a little bit of kaiting ^^
I'm so pissed at the impossible Nagaoka campaign that I'll just play effing Satsuma multiple times.
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i'm doing a fots campaign with the chosu, and i can't decide whether to recruit kihetai, sharpshooters, are stick with line infantry. which unit do you prefer?
Tanegashima actually in my playthrough attack me because of threat of attack
wish that bear infantry have better melee stats so that they can handle anything below katana kachi but lack bayonets making them vunverable to cavalry
I played domination with this clan on easy mode, but Tanegashima betrayed me at around late 1860's in the game
Lmao they did it on me too and landed with a mediocre army to capture one province from me sadly I crushed them within 2 turns effectively.Plus the farm rate is actually bugged like I had almost 30k gold turnover which I never achieved in total war shogun 2 and I was like wow xD. I finished the campaign easy no sweat.
I wish fall of samurai 2 based of imperial vs satsuma
I always do firing range. Your jujutsu no good when you cant reach me 😂
FUCK are Carbine Cavalry worse than Revolver Cav?
Depends on what you value, but Revolver cav are absolutely insane at destroying units as fast as humanly possible.
Lion Reichelt advantage of carbine cavalry: they are good at melee (except spearmen, of course) when they run out of ammunition.
Carbine are more versatile. I treat them like the dragoons of Empire total war. You can use them to establish easy flanking fire. Also, they can beat a lot of cavalry (excluding Yari Ki) simply through taking out half a unit before it gets to you (great accuracy). They have good enough melee to then wipe out whatever cav is left. Revolver cav are really only good at flanking fire. Their range is too short to be effective against other cav, and when you want to use flanking fire they have to get really close to the enemy. BUT, they absolutely dominate if they are able to fire unmolested. I usually go with carbine cav because in a game like this you really need to pick and choose with army comps, and I like how versatile carbines are.
The increase accuracy thing with certian building dosn't affect the ship, right ?? :T
And how come you said the carbine cav won't be killing as fast as revolver cav, don't they have faster reload ?
Dude what happened with the rest of the clans?
As imperial satsuma I got invaded by imperial tanegashima after getting a prompt and them landing an army in bungo
I defeated them with levy garrison
But still wtf
Could you do Saga next, please?
I think that giving a bonus to melee at all units could be a Nice trait, being them the Shimazu heirs
Or maybe an unique unit half modern half tradicional, like a Samurai only infantry regiment, that fights as line infantry but has armor and good melee skills idk
Funny, it is possible to get a 4th Royal Marine regiment.
Agents in this game is so annoying. Like pre realm divide I had 4 generals with 2 in my family. Realm divide hit and all of them beside my daimyo are enchanted or assasinated.
Am I the only one that doesn't really care much about the Gatling guns? I'd rather have a couple extra Armstrong batteries and cause havoc that way.
i did this clan for one of my campagins and i did them with the US marine corps cause america fuck yea!!!! but in either case it does not matter if you go with the USA britan or france having there marine corps in your ranks is better then nothing.
Anyone know y I can only play fall of the samurii after buying the Shogun 2 pack that comes with both vanilla Shogun 2 and fots steam shows I own vanilla and of attempt to purchase it says I won't be given a second copy yet when I click new campaign only gives option to play fall of the samurii
What is that website were you show the army? Not the battle though
Website? If you mean the close up of the unit portraits, that's in custom battles, but zoomed in for clarity.
Ok
Is there a specific reason clans defect?
I love choosing satsuma because it helps me focus on grabbing Kyushu first. But i always switch allegiances to shogun because I'm a pretty pro shogun player lol.
But everytime i play, by the time the realm divide happens, whether I'm imperial or shogunate, I'm facing down half of Japan whos sided against me, and usually find myself the only supporter of my allegiance left by turn 50 or so.
any tipps on how to use gatling guns?
Aim and fire.
"Tanegashima is hardcoded to stay allied with you" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 DUDE, seriously... Tanegashima is the most treacherous bitch-ass vassal in the entire TW history!!! How did you fukk this up?! (It's a Hojo- rocket level of fukup, honestly) I think everyone Satsuma player is familiar with the "Threat of an attack" notification when Tanegashima puts all his units on a boat and decides to backstab you 1 turn later, despite having a 180+ relationship. And no, Tanegashima does not switch sides while attacking, it stays pro-imperial most of the time. (9/10 l would say).
I've played the Satsuma a few times on different difficulty levels and I've never had them betray me.
Do Saga clan please
What is the most effective army in fall of the samurai ?
Hindol Mukherjee spam sir infrantry and Armstrong gun. A couple yari ki is nice but not needed since they are mainly meant for mopping of routing targets or sneaking up to enemy artillery. Otherwise the sir infantry is enough to wipe everything
I take 4 guns 4 cav all the rest inf
isn't it annoying how you daimyo doesn't wear like traditional Japanese clothing even though he would have in real life. Same thing with soldiers.
??? It’s imperial uniform lol
Nc
Is there zombie mod