Also folks, check out the discounts currently available on my site (approx 35 videos - up to 70% OFF). Link in vid description. Lots of theories given for the shadowban in the comments here , but none of them are individually plausible as reasons. Eg, a certain famous dictator of which I showed a clip lasting maybe 10 seconds ... a full speech of his elsewhere on YT has 73 million views. Same goes for all the keyword theories and violent scene theories - there are more intense, unbanned examples aplenty. But even if they were a problem, YT could just age restrict or outright block (with notification) for breaking the YT rules. No need to be covert and pretend the ban wasn't in place. If it's an algo-generated block then I think it's because of a selection of slightly triggering keywords, but the algo wasn't sophisticated enough to make sense of how those words fitted into the full video (AI's don't understand a thing, they're just programs). Equally it could be a paranoid moderator, given the stronger censorship phase all platforms were in back in 2021. Alternately, it could have been some military PR influence over YT to block content that questions boot camp, but I have no proof of that either and there are other vids that cover the subject too. As long as this reupload isn't subjected to the same treatment, the previous ban isn't that important. Thanks everyone :)
I've encountered this on TH-cam with several other videos. Even typing in the name of the channel and video title verbatim they will not appear in the search. EDIT: Not to defend Google because I hate them as a company passionatly because of their censorship agenda. But it could be this video is shadow banned because of mentioning the subject of Leonard's Suicide in the video. Maybe they will miss it this time with it being deeper in the video. If it gets shadow banned again, I suggest trying to remove the suicide bit then reupload it a third time and see what happens. Maybe just say "We all know what happened to Leonard".
@ most of the boot camp dialogue is word for word in the book. Also the most poignant moment in the story was cut from the film - after Pyle shoots gunny the dying drill sergeant tells Pyle “I’m proud of you….”
When your anti-war film becomes a recruiting tool for the Marines and R. Lee Ermey is signing autographs from Marines who were inspired to join by his performance right up until he dies
Don't forget the point based in the vid every the elite are foot soilders them self so remembering that it's basically a spell with in a spell with in a spell
many youtubers, have reported this kind of stuff happening. this seems to be happening "only" for a few days, but it still significantly impacts the performance/visibility of the video. also there is, to my knowledge, no pattern to it. i wouldn't put it past google to shadow-censor content, but I think for now this looks more like some very weird bug. but it is strange that the video wasn't/isn't even searchable. this could be a different problem. the other affected channels didn't mention it
You may find this interesting..I served in the British Parachute Regiment. Joined in the mid 90s. I went through a major brainwashing and indoctrination process. Throughout my time FMJ was an incredibly popular movie amongst the men. We knew every scene word for word and celebrated the movie and I guess not for the reasons the director intended. I would say some guys amongst the younger didnt truly understand the message the film was relaying. I joined with the knowledge that I would go through such a process and never let it truly take over my soul and mind. Once I left after 10 years service. I was able to put it behind me and move on..The conditioning never truly leaves you though but this is fine if you use it for positive things. Great channel.
Yeah, service men do seem to universally love this film. It's an interesting aspect of Kubrick. With 2001: A Space Odyssey he made a movie still adored by pro-technocracy intellectuals, but a more careful study fo the film reveals it has the opposite message.
Former Marine here. I did bootcamp in 1995. The experience was almost identical to what is shown in FMJ. The overweight guys lost weight and the skinny guys gained weight. The slowest person got most of the yelling at. We were pitted against each other to be squad leaders. Soon after I went through, the USMC started to implement a "kinder, gentler" method wherein the drill instructors were no longer allowed to swear at recruits. (so, they started using replacement words: 'freaking' instead of 'f*cking'). And, they were no longer allowed to make you do physical exercises that were not part of "planned training". They found ways around that. Anyone that was smart or aware soon found that the best way to go through training was to not be noticed. Don't get caught in the front or in the rear of the pack. In hindsight I see that the best thing that protected me from the brainwashing was being raised with lots of freedom as a kid. The recruits that responded the best to the brainwashing came from rural religious backgrounds OR were former gang members from the inner city. The drill instructor training consists of the instructor trainees taking turns yelling at each other. They learn and memorize the most degrading and funniest cutdowns I have ever heard. Several times I was caught laughing and made to "PUSH!" but proudly they never broke me. The punishment would go on so long, with me being unable to stop laughing, that eventually they would have to just let me go get back in line, because in the strictly scheduled time constraints of training, they can only single someone out for so long. Also, I was doing well in all of the skills and tests. A couple of times a few instructors even broke character and gave me a little "wink" as if to say, "I know that you know this is an act!" I like to think that it was an acknowledgement that their brainwashing was not working on me, but that I was otherwise accepted for doing a good job and playing along. This "special" treatment continued throughout my service at all of my duty stations. I am lucky I was never sent to combat (Haiti, Somalia, Bosnia) while I was in.
>not allowed to curse at you after 1995 I can assure you they did that and then some, they just couldn't do it when the officers were around. I've been called some very 'interesting' things. And they could in fact put you on the quarterdeck. Everything you've said about boot camp after you went through was highly inaccurate.
@@elijahherstal776 Yes! the digs they came up with were very interesting. Could not keep a straight face most of the time. I only said what they were supposed to be doing. Of course they didn't always follow it. But, as usual online, people are quick to try and one up everyone.
@@chriswyattscott let's put it this way: The worst thing about TH-cam comments is that we can't share those digs. Because they're absolutely *gold* but they'd get any comments nuked.
@@elijahherstal776 Just to clarify. This is all I said about the time after I went through bootcamp. : Soon after I went through, the USMC started to implement a "kinder, gentler" method wherein the drill instructors were no longer aloud to swear at recruits. (so, they started using replacement words: 'freaking' instead of 'f*cking'). And, they were no longer aloud to make you do physical exercises that were not part of "planned training". They found ways around that. So, in both examples I say that they did not follow the instructions that came from the top. (Which you AGREE that they were not able to say these things in front of officers. Meaning: It was NOT aloud.) That's why I find it strange that you called my comments: "highly inaccurate". I feel like you read the part you didn't agree with and left out the rest. And what else are you saying? That you wish on TH-cam you could use the derogatory and horrible remarks that drill instructors used on recruits? Seems like that is what you are saying. Be peace.
Just wanted to tell you I hugely appreciate your videos. Yours is one of the only media analysis channels that truly dedicates itself to the earnest inspection of movies without somekind of annoying agenda behind it all or using the format it as thinly veiled soapbox-rugpull that quickly derails the central topics of the subject. I hugely appreciate your efforts, despite YT not being the best platform to broadcast your views.
While in the Army and you'll never hear this in the media because it's agaisnt federal law. More soldiers were ",ending" themselves way more than in combat. Not veterans. Active soldiers.
I had some doubts about FMJ when it was originally released back in 1987 - summer of 87. I thought (back then) that the first part was absolutely brilliant but the second half was boring and anticlimatic. Man, I was dead wrong... FMJ is indeed a masterpiece.
What I like about FMJ is that the first part works as it's own movie, then the 2nd half let's us see how the characters handle 'Nam but with way less of the sentiment and pretense that are standard for the genre. And both halves culminate in wrenching scenes after good build-ups, as opposed to the entire movie being melodramatic and turgid.
As someone who served in the military, I can say this movie is is great at showing how the military is quite blunt when they say: You belong to us now and you will do what we tell you to do.
I hear this sort of comment often, and I wonder about it. I mainly use TH-cam from my subscriptions page and pay little attention to the feed. One result of doing this is that new videos from subscribed channels are not missed. I'm really not sure how else one could use TH-cam.
One of the terms for the brainwashing via the shock of boot camp is "resocialization." Rob breaks down the process specific to the film and gives some examples outside it, but recognizing the techniques is the most important thing because you soon see how unrelated institutions employ the same techniques in their own context. One is that you lose your clothes. You actually spend some time naked while all your superiors are clothed. This is especially true during the medical phase of boot camp (i.e., physicals, x-rays for identification of your body later, immunizations, etc.), but it is also on-going via group showers and bathrooms with no stalls. This humiliation component can be found in prisons, fraternity hazing, and even some religious cults. Next the clothing is replaced with a uniform, so identity is lost. This is often paired with a shaved head so that no identifiers remain that wasn't part of the individual's body. Again, you see this in prisons and football camp, all of which also result in a uniform issued by the group. Priests, monks, nuns, etc. similarly get a uniform, are required to cut their hair or style it a certain way (e.g., most orders of nuns required cutting it short even though they wore a habit over it, meaning that enforcing the haircut was more about demonstrating compliance and leaving a literal part of their old self behind than the actual appearance). Upon entering boot camp, the soldiers often lose their first name. They acquire a nickname from their drill sergeant or peers, are called by their last name (which is all that appears on their uniform), and/or are identified by their service number (Note: Service numbers have since been discontinued in the US, but they were in use until 1969; Full Metal Jacket is set in '67-'68). Prisoners are similarly tracked/identified inside the system by a number. Professional athletes similarly have uniforms with last name much smaller than their number. (Note that a number is sometimes "retired" when it becomes synonymous with a famous name... because then it is no longer an anonymous number.) Religions and other cults often have members chose a new name at a milestone (e.g., when completing a round of vows). It's not just a new name though. Before tattoos gained mainstream popularity during the '90s, they were primarily seen only on men, and even then they were only found on military veterans and biker gangs. (Maybe the occasional rock musician, but less often than you might think. I was surprised when I watch a punk video from the mid-'80s a while ago, and there were no tats to be seen.) Tattoos were part of the culture and even a ritual. Some cults have done similar with branding (e.g., the NXIVM cult a few years ago). Recruits don't bring any possessions in with them. Just like prison, you only get what they issue to you, and dress codes prevent them from customizing those possessions. (I thought the video would mention what Joker wrote on his helmet, highlighting his iconoclastic tendencies.) The film "Fight Club" parodies the tradition that novice monks are required to wait outside the temple for three days and bring three changes of clothing. Some religions and other cults require a vow of poverty, minimizing identity and optimizing focus on the organization. Note how the corporate world can't take employee's possessions retroactively, but companies exploit workers by making them demonstrate devotion, especially in "desirable" cult-like companies, via unpaid internships. The intense schedule and exercise keeps the soldiers docile because they are literally too exhausted to challenge orders, thereby making compliance the easiest path. If this is sustained over weeks (Boot camp is about 8 to 13 weeks, depending on the branch), then that becomes the only existence the soldier knows, and he will always wait for orders rather than taking the initiative, which would likely be self-preservation. Religions and other cults also have parallel techniques such as taking a vow of silence early on so that questions cannot be asked precisely when the individual is most likely to be asking them. There are additional components such as fasting or prolonged meditation or other isolation. Even medical schools engage in their own form of mental torture, requiring interns to work 24-hour shifts, only sleeping between emergencies, if at all, even though this obviously puts patients at risk via mistakes made by sleep-deprived personnel. Yet, the practice continues because the older physicians refuse to allow the next generation to have an easier path than they had. (I'm paraphrasing actual quotes by the established drs.) The video mentions repetitions of slogans and chants, but there is also an enormous amount of jargon. In some cases it is simply and needlessly replacing familiar terms with the group-speak (e.g., "head" where "toilet" already communicates things unambiguously). Military terminology is often so unwieldy that they resort to acronyms (AWOL, ICBM), which then sometimes become words unto themselves, which then leads to slang emerging from a culture of acronyms (e.g., FUBAR, SNAFU, etc.). Learning the new language means the recruit is in a new context where there are new rules of cause and effect. In some cases the jargon can help obscure contradictions or concepts that might otherwise be questioned, but putting a new name on it means it is something novel. In many cases the jargon is helpful because it makes distinctions that are only relevant if you're in that field, but a side-effect of this that how merely learning it establishes in-group/out-group dynamics that makes recruits feel somehow "special" because they can understand what others cannot. (Lexicographer Susie Dent has a book about occupation-specific jargon. Many of her examples are very funny.) If there's an established way of doing things or traditions that must be followed, ask yourself who they benefit. There are lots of forms of indoctrination and cult-ish behavior. Know the signs.
VERY serious implications here. The post military suicide rate here in the US is excessive. How much does this actually have to do with disconnecting from the military family, club, cult etc? You are given a new identity in the military to ensure that you can function socially within the ranks. You then spend anywhere from three to twenty years in service. Eventually you come out on the other side without much re-integration into civilian society. I imagine it’s a reason why there are so many veteran groups and clubs. Without that military connection, you can feel lost at sea and very isolated. But that’s the price individuals and society has to pay for defense and social stability…. I guess.
@Joe-sg9ll You need to update your internal hardware, then. I would suggest searching: "Exercises in reason" either on Google or here on TH-cam, try to find a basic tutorial, and then begin training your mind from there.
Not sure if you recall me, I made some disparaging comments about your review of Alien Romulus (it sucked ass, you were right) but I was in high school when full metal jacket came out and me and all of my friends joined the military and we loved this movie, watched it all the time and after I watched your series of videos on this movie, I was completely mind blown. I guess we were too young to understand all of the things Kubrick was trying to show people in this film. Just incredible sir, hats off to you!
I tried to full metal jacket myself into being a hard working military guy. I simply couldn't do it. I'll die or go insane before i can be a happy worker drone
@@collativelearning It would have been more accurate had I said a year. I had covid and pneumonia this year and my perception of time is a little skewed.
The year this movie was released, my fellow football players started using the marine's chants in our drills. As a 16-year-old, I knew they had missed the point.
The magician performs the trick before entering the stage. This quote comes to mind when I consider the methods used to make us deceive ourselves. We believe there might have been a bad decision at one point for example when the tendency to make the decision was installed at an earlier time.
Well, it’s four days after upload, and I’ve gotten this video on my recommendation page, as I think I may have watched another one of your videos, but not recently, but also I’m not subscribed to you. So I think this video is out of the woods now. I’m glad it popped up for me, a fresh point of view for a film I’ve watched several times. Thank you.
Frame the brainwashing and call it self improvement... that's like feed me shit and call it chocolate. Also, when you meet soldiers (my only knowledge is from the UK), particularly soldiers that haven't really seen an action in theatre, they do often act quite emotionally immature, like whatever they do is an act to improve their idea of a positive self image in front of others.
I didn't know you met my brother 😂. He was in the UK military for 3 years and never saw active service. He was Exactly as you describe. Coincidentally he actually did his basic training at Basingbourne Barracks while FMJ was being filmed there.
@@Rachel_M_ haha, excellent. You know what I mean though - you can be in a pub having a pint with them and it might just be the two of you but you can still feel them consciously trying to project and image.
As opposed to what, the 18-24 year old college students? Because it's the same age bracket. I'm not trying to be rude, but your anecdotal example is valid... anecdotally. I can tell you that I've seen civilians that look down their nose at veterans like me, yet the moment one of their creature comforts is taken away- they crumple and fold, cry and whinge. I've seen them lose their spine at the mere sight of a potential confrontation or retreat whenever everyday normal life calls for you to step up and show some integrity or courage. Is that universal? Absolutely not. I can tell you I've also met plenty of civilians that I'd have been glad to have in times of conflict, more so than some of the Marines I got stuck with.
@@elijahherstal776mate it’s just regurgitated boomer ideas, the looking down of a class of people which was made popular by media they consumed through pop culture. The hippie movement and its various forms in the following decades which encapsulated much of modern pop culture in the west. Military members are just seen as another class of dumb, squares, losers, etc. who have committed the cardinal sin of forsaking “individualism”, compared to the “free” yuppies who went to college on their parents dime and where they were taught the core tenets of hedonism & materialism. Look at the comments, see how many of these people are telling a similar story on how free and independent they were, how everyone else of whatever group they look down on just weren’t as heckin’ smart, witty, intelligent, as they were. They are all the main characters in the same movie lol
@@collativelearning it's the Hit ler clip. If this upload is de-indexed again, you can try muting that section and see how it goes. They probably have automatic classifiers for those speeches, heh. Bigger channels can get away with that type of clip after manual intervention (sometimes), I suppose.
Sunflower is probably correct. The algorithm is not a person it is a robot. You triggered something within algorithm. Not one thing probably but a few that produced bingo! effect. Maybe even showing war is not something youtube likes. And youtube deffenetly doesn't like anti brainwashing videos:)))
@@CatSchrodingers i'm not sure I agree. It's quite well known that there are huge numbers of PR employees who trawl over social media, esp content creators with large followings, looking for stuff they think they need to block.
Rob, I appreciate you re-releasing this video as I never saw it originally. I'm sure you're also well aware of why the establishment would be against it. You're making those they've experimented on too aware of themselves and the last thing they want is their robots becoming too aware of themselves and exercising independent thought
Except for the fact that us 'robots' seem to be fully capable of thinking independently, and that independent thought is essential to function in the military. But please, 'enlightened civilian', tell me how you're above it.
Rob have you ever spoken to Mark Devlin? He’s an Oxford born guy that I think you should have a chat with. He’s a former hip-hop DJ/music journalist and researcher and talks about how we are systematically brainwashed via the music industry, including movies. I think you might find him interesting.
This showed up in my feed as a recommendation. So as of now I think no manipulation has occurred. Thank you for your film analysis, on this and other films.
This showed up for me as a recommendation too. This is the first of your videos I have watched and my first time encountering your channel. I'm glad it was recommended to me!
I was married to a marine and lived on several marine bases and i saw men get broken and others built up. My ex he was one of the broken and unfortunately he still is. I loved this film and Kubrick is my very favorite director ever. I did an esaay on his work in film class and i appreciate this video and discussion it prompts. Great work 🙏💕✨
I love FMJ, Kubrick might be the best director or all time. Also you can't get people to follow orders and die for their country in a democratic system. It is authoritarian and if you want to win against an enemy that wants to kill you, you can't have everyone questioning every order. I will take a line from another military movie, "The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bustard die for his."
As much as I hate giving the government extra powers. Google has to be made to disclose their bias against certain creators and their content as well as their reasons for that bias.
Nope I think the government needs to put the hammer down and force google and facebook to abide by the first amendment. Even though Google and facebook are private companies, restricting speech on these platforms is tantamount to restricting free speech, and the executives of these companies can control what gets disseminated into the public. The new policy should be you are allowed to say whatever the hell you want and still get monetized.
@@tag6502 The Constitution doesn't give you the right to deliberately spread lies. "Freedom of Speech" doesn't mean what you've been told to think it means.
@@F_ckAllTrumpVoters Your username is something of a bias giveaway there. Both your party and that of your oppponents spread lots of "info" that the other claims are "lies". But no one can be given a monopoly on what is deemed truth or lie. because no one is perfect enough or honest enought to wield that power. That's why freedom of speech is important. If you have to silence your oppostion then you're more or less admitting you can't debate them effectively in an open arena of ideas.
It's no wonder TH-cam would crack down on a video analyzing and detailing the mechanisms of *this subject.* It is the right hand of corporate globalism (among other things). Its chief stockholders are invested in washing.
Ad a former Marine I think Vietnam era up to before Gulf War era boot camp is a joke. It consisted of mostly drill and dormitory style hazing and shockingly little marksmanship or infantry training. The theatrics displayed by Gunny Hartman dont really have tactical benefit. So much time is wasted on dramatics to give pogues the false impression that they have been well trained.
My dad was a combat veteran (was in the Israeli Defense Force and was in combat for a skirmish called the "Yon Kippur War") And he got this movie through and through.
Kubrick himself wasn't a combat veteran. He wasn't even military trained. So why would you hold his movie up as being representative of the the combat veteran experience?
I love and appreciate how you convinced me to watch this video right away by stating at the beginning that it would be one of the best and most important videos you’ve ever created.
I suspect it has something to do with a scummy attempt at prioritizing big movie analysis channels that offer lame videos that get millions of views, they don’t want everyone moving to higher quality independent film analysis channels
RE your intro: I personally feel your pain as I'm also very regularly subjected to Google's shadowbanning. This is a horrible business practice and it needs to stop immediately! My only hope, before Google becomes the all-encompassing Ministry of Truth its employees want it to be, is for people to wake up (unlikely, I know) or for better alternatives to finally step forward (Elon, please help). TH-cam: This dictatorial reeducation program against your paying customers will bite you. Sooner or later. (Now I'm curious if even this comment makes it through the ban wall.) Peace.
47:27 If you watch his speeches with subtitles, so you can actually understand what he says, it makes a lot of sense, which explains why a lot of people are noticing and sympathizing with him lately.
Truly worth waiting for this one. Fantastic! My great thanks for this thoughtful discussion. I love your Kubrick work, and this was on yet another level. Thanks!
18:25 I used to think military setvice served the ritualistic aspect of archaic societies Joseph cambell said was mostly missing in modern societies. To say it regresses the mind of men makes me wonder if I'm simply wrong, or it's specific to my country (Israel). In the context of cubrik, I've definitely seen it happen.
If this re-upload is identical to the original I think I know where the problem lies, of course I'm just guessing: the private committing sudoku (at 6:14 in this video).
that's so sinister to not only shadow ban a video, but hide it from the uploader. imagine working at google or youtube and being explained how this works and then doing it. This is basically the public square now, what kind of person would be ok with that?
Aw, I remember watching this video. I downloaded this and watched it last year. This is such a great video that showcases your psychology experience and how you brilliantly dissect propaganda and brainwashing. Another classic from you Sir Rob.
I saw this movie just weeks before i I went to boot camp. It is not a pro Marine Corps movie. Anyone who thinks it is either doesn't understand the Corps or the movie.
My first two months in Army basic training wasn’t too bad. But eventually the conditioning broke my will and it became very difficult. Became painfully homesick. Didn’t think I would make a career out of it but somehow I did. But that indoctrination peril is very rough for most people.
Kubrick's anti brainwashing masterpiece is still really Eyes Wide Shut. If anybody wants the beginning steps of understanding who exactly is "guiding" us, Look towards that film.
The cult in EWS isn't real, it's a hybrid representation of many secret societies, but the film also shows how conspiracy thinking can be taken too far. I mean the orgy is basically a dream sequence lol. Imo a lot of conspiracies are put out by the intel to scare people into silence and it works on a lot of people who consider themselves clued up.
@@collativelearningOh absolutely. Especially in the modern age where the internet has become a great tool for creating and spreading narratives to the masses. I've seen examples of that all over the place. Ppl claiming that this group over here runs everything or that group over there is behind it all. I've always believed the alphabet agencies are the ones pushing most of these narratives out there to funnel ppl down certain holes. It's why some end up so radicalized. Not everyone is capable of independent thought and analysis
Rob, what are your thoughts on decentralizing education, either home schooling or returning education to being locally or state run? IE: in the US there is talk of abolishing the Department of Education.
Hey man, loved your video analysis on the Shinning by Kubrick. ¿Will you ever analyze the film Joker 2 and why it failed with its core audience? Thanks again for your great analysis.
@OfAngels444 Agreed but I would like to know his insight on the film's core message. Of course it depends if he considers making a video about this topic as "worth" for his channel.
I don’t think this video is shadow banned anymore! It popped in my feed and I assume it’s because I search for Kubrick videos regularly! Great video as usual and I’m glad it’s now more regularly available!!!
your videos are very interesting but would it be possible to have oppoortunity to activate subtitles?I am not mother tongue English and sometimes i do not catch some words/sentences.thx in advance.
Fascistic Google. I get that you're not denouncing all military training. That said, most recruits in basic training bring with them a certain mindset, that of faking it 'til you make it. Most of us knew it was just something to put up with for a few weeks, knowing we'll soon get on with our lives.
Hi Rob, big fan been watching for a while. I also run yt channels, and while your initial theory is sound that the video probably got shadowbanned, it could have been for multiple reasons including "potentially unsafe" keywords. Your description alone contains a fair few, never mind the transcript and content of the video. The algorithm is beyond fickle and indecipherable. Hopefully this one pops off, it got recommended to me
@@collativelearning Happy to see it though, and sorry, i guess time is going slow for me. TH-cam has got to be one of the most mysterious public orgs out there. If they publish how they arrive at decisions, people will take advantage of it, so we're left with this man-behind-the-curtain relationship.
After having watched the first 3,5 minutes I feel the need to tell you that I dont think its arbitrary who gets put on the naughty list and who doesn't. b-washing is googs bread and butter and any form of education on that topic needs to be dampened. I also doubt that it was done by human moderators.
this reminds me of the sort of Prussian militarism Foucault talks abt in Discipline and Punish. A lot of professional organizations (hospitals, schools, factories, etc.) need organized bodies trained to move in tandem with one another. Bodies trained with the same precision/discipline as a military marching on the battlefield. Easier to see if you thinking abt line warfare, but as technology improves, these movements don’t go away.. they just come in different (often more brutal) forms
Great to see this outstanding vid back on YouTub! I believe the original vid had around 50,000 views within its first week before someone / something capped the view count. It was released at the right time with the right audience who, at the time, were so divided into extreme tribal camp mindsets on both sides with little intellectual balance. So far, this new upload has got 9,050 views within its first 12 hours. Pretty good.
Regarding the Separation from Familiar Life bit. They used that technique to accelerate slaves compliance to their new conditions. Vastly new environments with people split from those who'd speak your dialect / language and then bring them up to speed with the "program".
46:30 "The prisoner who now stands before you... Was caught red-handed showing feelings... Showing feelings of an almost, human nature... This will not do..!!"
First time i saw this movie i was stoned, and as soon as the fighting really started, i had a legit and deep panic attack that ive NEVER had from beholding a piece of media. And ive seen all the war movies...
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Lots of theories given for the shadowban in the comments here , but none of them are individually plausible as reasons. Eg, a certain famous dictator of which I showed a clip lasting maybe 10 seconds ... a full speech of his elsewhere on YT has 73 million views. Same goes for all the keyword theories and violent scene theories - there are more intense, unbanned examples aplenty. But even if they were a problem, YT could just age restrict or outright block (with notification) for breaking the YT rules. No need to be covert and pretend the ban wasn't in place. If it's an algo-generated block then I think it's because of a selection of slightly triggering keywords, but the algo wasn't sophisticated enough to make sense of how those words fitted into the full video (AI's don't understand a thing, they're just programs). Equally it could be a paranoid moderator, given the stronger censorship phase all platforms were in back in 2021. Alternately, it could have been some military PR influence over YT to block content that questions boot camp, but I have no proof of that either and there are other vids that cover the subject too.
As long as this reupload isn't subjected to the same treatment, the previous ban isn't that important.
Thanks everyone :)
When Dune (2020s version) Gaza israel comparisons?
I've encountered this on TH-cam with several other videos. Even typing in the name of the channel and video title verbatim they will not appear in the search.
EDIT: Not to defend Google because I hate them as a company passionatly because of their censorship agenda. But it could be this video is shadow banned because of mentioning the subject of Leonard's Suicide in the video. Maybe they will miss it this time with it being deeper in the video. If it gets shadow banned again, I suggest trying to remove the suicide bit then reupload it a third time and see what happens. Maybe just say "We all know what happened to Leonard".
Have you read “The Short-Timers”?
@@DHeav60 Yes
@ most of the boot camp dialogue is word for word in the book. Also the most poignant moment in the story was cut from the film - after Pyle shoots gunny the dying drill sergeant tells Pyle “I’m proud of you….”
When your anti-war film becomes a recruiting tool for the Marines and R. Lee Ermey is signing autographs from Marines who were inspired to join by his performance right up until he dies
Get as far away from the military as you can don't be a tool for the elite
Don't forget the point based in the vid every the elite are foot soilders them self so remembering that it's basically a spell with in a spell with in a spell
ALWAYS good to see a new upload from THE Rob Ager. Its a shame that youtube desperately wants to stymie informative content.
It doesn't. We're human. TH-cam AI. Af
many youtubers, have reported this kind of stuff happening. this seems to be happening "only" for a few days, but it still significantly impacts the performance/visibility of the video. also there is, to my knowledge, no pattern to it. i wouldn't put it past google to shadow-censor content, but I think for now this looks more like some very weird bug.
but it is strange that the video wasn't/isn't even searchable. this could be a different problem. the other affected channels didn't mention it
youtubers have been complaining about this stuff for years
Google is also mass deleting users' legitimate comments, even when they break no rules.
Ironically Google just deleted my comment 🙄
Awesome to see another post by Rob on a Kubrick movie. No one analyzes Kubrick films quite like Rob. Always top notch.
Love Rob! ...but have you seen 'Eye Scream' about "The Shining' ? A different type of analysis. Not even sure how to classify it.
@chriswyattscott Yep, I'll watch almost any critique of a Kubrick movie.
You may find this interesting..I served in the British Parachute Regiment. Joined in the mid 90s. I went through a major brainwashing and indoctrination process.
Throughout my time FMJ was an incredibly popular movie amongst the men. We knew every scene word for word and celebrated the movie and I guess not for the reasons the director intended. I would say some guys amongst the younger didnt truly understand the message the film was relaying. I joined with the knowledge that I would go through such a process and never let it truly take over my soul and mind. Once I left after 10 years service. I was able to put it behind me and move on..The conditioning never truly leaves you though but this is fine if you use it for positive things. Great channel.
Yeah, service men do seem to universally love this film. It's an interesting aspect of Kubrick. With 2001: A Space Odyssey he made a movie still adored by pro-technocracy intellectuals, but a more careful study fo the film reveals it has the opposite message.
Is it possible to "Brain" wash a para?
lol
@@muzzer0181 hahahaha
What were the good and bad points of your service in the Paras?
Former Marine here. I did bootcamp in 1995. The experience was almost identical to what is shown in FMJ. The overweight guys lost weight and the skinny guys gained weight. The slowest person got most of the yelling at. We were pitted against each other to be squad leaders. Soon after I went through, the USMC started to implement a "kinder, gentler" method wherein the drill instructors were no longer allowed to swear at recruits. (so, they started using replacement words: 'freaking' instead of 'f*cking'). And, they were no longer allowed to make you do physical exercises that were not part of "planned training". They found ways around that. Anyone that was smart or aware soon found that the best way to go through training was to not be noticed. Don't get caught in the front or in the rear of the pack. In hindsight I see that the best thing that protected me from the brainwashing was being raised with lots of freedom as a kid. The recruits that responded the best to the brainwashing came from rural religious backgrounds OR were former gang members from the inner city. The drill instructor training consists of the instructor trainees taking turns yelling at each other. They learn and memorize the most degrading and funniest cutdowns I have ever heard. Several times I was caught laughing and made to "PUSH!" but proudly they never broke me. The punishment would go on so long, with me being unable to stop laughing, that eventually they would have to just let me go get back in line, because in the strictly scheduled time constraints of training, they can only single someone out for so long. Also, I was doing well in all of the skills and tests. A couple of times a few instructors even broke character and gave me a little "wink" as if to say, "I know that you know this is an act!" I like to think that it was an acknowledgement that their brainwashing was not working on me, but that I was otherwise accepted for doing a good job and playing along. This "special" treatment continued throughout my service at all of my duty stations. I am lucky I was never sent to combat (Haiti, Somalia, Bosnia) while I was in.
>not allowed to curse at you after 1995
I can assure you they did that and then some, they just couldn't do it when the officers were around. I've been called some very 'interesting' things.
And they could in fact put you on the quarterdeck. Everything you've said about boot camp after you went through was highly inaccurate.
@@elijahherstal776 Yes! the digs they came up with were very interesting. Could not keep a straight face most of the time. I only said what they were supposed to be doing. Of course they didn't always follow it. But, as usual online, people are quick to try and one up everyone.
I was not completely immune to brainwashing though, cause I DID sign up!
@@chriswyattscott let's put it this way:
The worst thing about TH-cam comments is that we can't share those digs. Because they're absolutely *gold* but they'd get any comments nuked.
@@elijahherstal776 Just to clarify. This is all I said about the time after I went through bootcamp. :
Soon after I went through, the USMC started to implement a "kinder, gentler" method wherein the drill instructors were no longer aloud to swear at recruits. (so, they started using replacement words: 'freaking' instead of 'f*cking'). And, they were no longer aloud to make you do physical exercises that were not part of "planned training". They found ways around that.
So, in both examples I say that they did not follow the instructions that came from the top. (Which you AGREE that they were not able to say these things in front of officers. Meaning: It was NOT aloud.) That's why I find it strange that you called my comments: "highly inaccurate". I feel like you read the part you didn't agree with and left out the rest.
And what else are you saying? That you wish on TH-cam you could use the derogatory and horrible remarks that drill instructors used on recruits? Seems like that is what you are saying. Be peace.
I think you've beat the algorithm today my friend. I've never seen you before and this video just landed in my recommended box!
Just wanted to tell you I hugely appreciate your videos. Yours is one of the only media analysis channels that truly dedicates itself to the earnest inspection of movies without somekind of annoying agenda behind it all or using the format it as thinly veiled soapbox-rugpull that quickly derails the central topics of the subject.
I hugely appreciate your efforts, despite YT not being the best platform to broadcast your views.
While in the Army and you'll never hear this in the media because it's agaisnt federal law. More soldiers were ",ending" themselves way more than in combat. Not veterans. Active soldiers.
I can't imagine a "social" media conglomerate having an issue with helping people think clearly....
Looks at Ukraine "Let's spread some democracy in this god forsaken land" -TH-cam
bruh you probably had a Ukrainian flag on your profile before it was passe
Don’t Be Evil.
How could that slogan be from an evil corporation? Immensely powerful and influential but definitely NOT evil.
What's wrong with Ukraine?
One helluva of thumbnail, Rob! Hats off to thee!
I had some doubts about FMJ when it was originally released back in 1987 - summer of 87. I thought (back then) that the first part was absolutely brilliant but the second half was boring and anticlimatic. Man, I was dead wrong... FMJ is indeed a masterpiece.
*or understanding
were u there for the bite of 87?
@disgruntled4627 Cringe
The closing lines of the movie sort of flipped the whole thing for me: "I'm alive, and I'm not afraid."
What I like about FMJ is that the first part works as it's own movie, then the 2nd half let's us see how the characters handle 'Nam but with way less of the sentiment and pretense that are standard for the genre. And both halves culminate in wrenching scenes after good build-ups, as opposed to the entire movie being melodramatic and turgid.
TH-cam is getting worse and worse man. Link saved.
And, here you are still using this free platform daily lol nice
@@Rescoase I find myself using it less and less
Everyone pays for wifi or data. How's it free?
I wonder why TH-cam would want to remove a video exposing brainwashing techniques..
@@Rescoase 🤡🤡🤡
As someone who served in the military, I can say this movie is is great at showing how the military is quite blunt when they say: You belong to us now and you will do what we tell you to do.
Imagine serving the government on purpose.
We need a movie that shows how willing humans are to have their personal individual rights taken away by the government
@@GruntoSkunko I was in the marines and it was a kick ass time. Lolz you really need to stop believing everything you see on TV 🤣
@@GruntoSkunko So, you don't have imagination then.
@@Person0fColor Marines are thugs for Israel and international capitalism. There is not a drop of honor in being a member of the U.S military
As of an hour after upload, it appeared in my feed. Will report back in after a couple days. Thank you for all you do.
A small price to pay for watching content google hates.
I hear this sort of comment often, and I wonder about it. I mainly use TH-cam from my subscriptions page and pay little attention to the feed. One result of doing this is that new videos from subscribed channels are not missed. I'm really not sure how else one could use TH-cam.
One of the terms for the brainwashing via the shock of boot camp is "resocialization." Rob breaks down the process specific to the film and gives some examples outside it, but recognizing the techniques is the most important thing because you soon see how unrelated institutions employ the same techniques in their own context.
One is that you lose your clothes. You actually spend some time naked while all your superiors are clothed. This is especially true during the medical phase of boot camp (i.e., physicals, x-rays for identification of your body later, immunizations, etc.), but it is also on-going via group showers and bathrooms with no stalls. This humiliation component can be found in prisons, fraternity hazing, and even some religious cults. Next the clothing is replaced with a uniform, so identity is lost. This is often paired with a shaved head so that no identifiers remain that wasn't part of the individual's body. Again, you see this in prisons and football camp, all of which also result in a uniform issued by the group. Priests, monks, nuns, etc. similarly get a uniform, are required to cut their hair or style it a certain way (e.g., most orders of nuns required cutting it short even though they wore a habit over it, meaning that enforcing the haircut was more about demonstrating compliance and leaving a literal part of their old self behind than the actual appearance).
Upon entering boot camp, the soldiers often lose their first name. They acquire a nickname from their drill sergeant or peers, are called by their last name (which is all that appears on their uniform), and/or are identified by their service number (Note: Service numbers have since been discontinued in the US, but they were in use until 1969; Full Metal Jacket is set in '67-'68). Prisoners are similarly tracked/identified inside the system by a number. Professional athletes similarly have uniforms with last name much smaller than their number. (Note that a number is sometimes "retired" when it becomes synonymous with a famous name... because then it is no longer an anonymous number.) Religions and other cults often have members chose a new name at a milestone (e.g., when completing a round of vows).
It's not just a new name though. Before tattoos gained mainstream popularity during the '90s, they were primarily seen only on men, and even then they were only found on military veterans and biker gangs. (Maybe the occasional rock musician, but less often than you might think. I was surprised when I watch a punk video from the mid-'80s a while ago, and there were no tats to be seen.) Tattoos were part of the culture and even a ritual. Some cults have done similar with branding (e.g., the NXIVM cult a few years ago).
Recruits don't bring any possessions in with them. Just like prison, you only get what they issue to you, and dress codes prevent them from customizing those possessions. (I thought the video would mention what Joker wrote on his helmet, highlighting his iconoclastic tendencies.) The film "Fight Club" parodies the tradition that novice monks are required to wait outside the temple for three days and bring three changes of clothing. Some religions and other cults require a vow of poverty, minimizing identity and optimizing focus on the organization. Note how the corporate world can't take employee's possessions retroactively, but companies exploit workers by making them demonstrate devotion, especially in "desirable" cult-like companies, via unpaid internships.
The intense schedule and exercise keeps the soldiers docile because they are literally too exhausted to challenge orders, thereby making compliance the easiest path. If this is sustained over weeks (Boot camp is about 8 to 13 weeks, depending on the branch), then that becomes the only existence the soldier knows, and he will always wait for orders rather than taking the initiative, which would likely be self-preservation. Religions and other cults also have parallel techniques such as taking a vow of silence early on so that questions cannot be asked precisely when the individual is most likely to be asking them. There are additional components such as fasting or prolonged meditation or other isolation. Even medical schools engage in their own form of mental torture, requiring interns to work 24-hour shifts, only sleeping between emergencies, if at all, even though this obviously puts patients at risk via mistakes made by sleep-deprived personnel. Yet, the practice continues because the older physicians refuse to allow the next generation to have an easier path than they had. (I'm paraphrasing actual quotes by the established drs.)
The video mentions repetitions of slogans and chants, but there is also an enormous amount of jargon. In some cases it is simply and needlessly replacing familiar terms with the group-speak (e.g., "head" where "toilet" already communicates things unambiguously). Military terminology is often so unwieldy that they resort to acronyms (AWOL, ICBM), which then sometimes become words unto themselves, which then leads to slang emerging from a culture of acronyms (e.g., FUBAR, SNAFU, etc.). Learning the new language means the recruit is in a new context where there are new rules of cause and effect. In some cases the jargon can help obscure contradictions or concepts that might otherwise be questioned, but putting a new name on it means it is something novel. In many cases the jargon is helpful because it makes distinctions that are only relevant if you're in that field, but a side-effect of this that how merely learning it establishes in-group/out-group dynamics that makes recruits feel somehow "special" because they can understand what others cannot. (Lexicographer Susie Dent has a book about occupation-specific jargon. Many of her examples are very funny.)
If there's an established way of doing things or traditions that must be followed, ask yourself who they benefit. There are lots of forms of indoctrination and cult-ish behavior. Know the signs.
The military really is disgusting.
VERY serious implications here. The post military suicide rate here in the US is excessive. How much does this actually have to do with disconnecting from the military family, club, cult etc?
You are given a new identity in the military to ensure that you can function socially within the ranks. You then spend anywhere from three to twenty years in service. Eventually you come out on the other side without much re-integration into civilian society.
I imagine it’s a reason why there are so many veteran groups and clubs. Without that military connection, you can feel lost at sea and very isolated. But that’s the price individuals and society has to pay for defense and social stability…. I guess.
does the military break them or do broken people join the military
@@Joe-sg9llA bit of both probably but then we are all a bit broken aren't we.
@Joe-sg9ll Think on it for two seconds and you'll realize the obvious answer. And how dumb that question was.
@@AAllen-br8it I did as you suggested without the predicted result
@Joe-sg9ll You need to update your internal hardware, then. I would suggest searching: "Exercises in reason" either on Google or here on TH-cam, try to find a basic tutorial, and then begin training your mind from there.
My favorite Drill Sargeant line was "That pain you're feeling, that's the civilian in you dying."
Not sure if you recall me, I made some disparaging comments about your review of Alien Romulus (it sucked ass, you were right) but I was in high school when full metal jacket came out and me and all of my friends joined the military and we loved this movie, watched it all the time and after I watched your series of videos on this movie, I was completely mind blown. I guess we were too young to understand all of the things Kubrick was trying to show people in this film. Just incredible sir, hats off to you!
I tried to full metal jacket myself into being a hard working military guy. I simply couldn't do it. I'll die or go insane before i can be a happy worker drone
long-time subscriber. This showed up in my feed 3 days post-upload. I watched it then and am happy to watch again
Yours was the first one that showed up in my feed today. Its also the first one that's showed in quite a few months.
Cheers. i met up with a friend yesterday who said he hasn't received a single notification of my uploads for over a year.
@@collativelearning It would have been more accurate had I said a year. I had covid and pneumonia this year and my perception of time is a little skewed.
@@DelightLovesMoviesdang. he's been in timeout. I wonder if complaining about it in the first few minutes prompted a status revision
@@Joe-sg9ll That's part of why I had the intro, so that if it happens again it will draw attention to itself, defeating the point of SHADOWbans.
Maybe it got shadow banned because of the uncensored self termination by rapid cranial disassembly.
"Tell a lie. Make it big. Keep it simple. Repeat it over and over again."
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The year this movie was released, my fellow football players started using the marine's chants in our drills.
As a 16-year-old, I knew they had missed the point.
Kubric probably could have made full metal jacket about football instead of war, and it would have been just as good.
The magician performs the trick before entering the stage.
This quote comes to mind when I consider the methods used to make us deceive ourselves.
We believe there might have been a bad decision at one point for example when the tendency to make the decision was installed at an earlier time.
Im so glad that you are fighting the shadow bans and making more Full Metal Jacket content.
Well, it’s four days after upload, and I’ve gotten this video on my recommendation page, as I think I may have watched another one of your videos, but not recently, but also I’m not subscribed to you.
So I think this video is out of the woods now. I’m glad it popped up for me, a fresh point of view for a film I’ve watched several times. Thank you.
I think it's very clear why youtube censored this in 2021.
Frame the brainwashing and call it self improvement... that's like feed me shit and call it chocolate. Also, when you meet soldiers (my only knowledge is from the UK), particularly soldiers that haven't really seen an action in theatre, they do often act quite emotionally immature, like whatever they do is an act to improve their idea of a positive self image in front of others.
I didn't know you met my brother 😂.
He was in the UK military for 3 years and never saw active service. He was Exactly as you describe.
Coincidentally he actually did his basic training at Basingbourne Barracks while FMJ was being filmed there.
@@Rachel_M_ haha, excellent. You know what I mean though - you can be in a pub having a pint with them and it might just be the two of you but you can still feel them consciously trying to project and image.
As opposed to what, the 18-24 year old college students? Because it's the same age bracket. I'm not trying to be rude, but your anecdotal example is valid... anecdotally.
I can tell you that I've seen civilians that look down their nose at veterans like me, yet the moment one of their creature comforts is taken away- they crumple and fold, cry and whinge. I've seen them lose their spine at the mere sight of a potential confrontation or retreat whenever everyday normal life calls for you to step up and show some integrity or courage.
Is that universal? Absolutely not. I can tell you I've also met plenty of civilians that I'd have been glad to have in times of conflict, more so than some of the Marines I got stuck with.
@@elijahherstal776mate it’s just regurgitated boomer ideas, the looking down of a class of people which was made popular by media they consumed through pop culture. The hippie movement and its various forms in the following decades which encapsulated much of modern pop culture in the west. Military members are just seen as another class of dumb, squares, losers, etc. who have committed the cardinal sin of forsaking “individualism”, compared to the “free” yuppies who went to college on their parents dime and where they were taught the core tenets of hedonism & materialism. Look at the comments, see how many of these people are telling a similar story on how free and independent they were, how everyone else of whatever group they look down on just weren’t as heckin’ smart, witty, intelligent, as they were. They are all the main characters in the same movie lol
So much soy.
I guess you hit a nerve with this one! TH-cam and google are beyond tiresome.
''They've gotta break yeah to make yeah'' is a common phrase parroted by people who have been in the military.
Ha, yeah that's a stupid one lol
Maybe the out of context and unblurred deaths of Hartman and Lawerance was the motivation for the shadow ban? Just a guess, this is a great essay.
Definitely not, YT is full of unblurred clips from violent movies, many more much brutal than that scene.
@@collativelearning it's the Hit ler clip. If this upload is de-indexed again, you can try muting that section and see how it goes. They probably have automatic classifiers for those speeches, heh. Bigger channels can get away with that type of clip after manual intervention (sometimes), I suppose.
Sunflower is probably correct. The algorithm is not a person it is a robot. You triggered something within algorithm. Not one thing probably but a few that produced bingo! effect. Maybe even showing war is not something youtube likes. And youtube deffenetly doesn't like anti brainwashing videos:)))
@@jimdopango Maybe. But a quick search reveals one of his speeches has 73 million views.
@@CatSchrodingers i'm not sure I agree. It's quite well known that there are huge numbers of PR employees who trawl over social media, esp content creators with large followings, looking for stuff they think they need to block.
A marine is not a soldier and a soldier is not a marine. Watching since 2008.
Rob, I appreciate you re-releasing this video as I never saw it originally. I'm sure you're also well aware of why the establishment would be against it. You're making those they've experimented on too aware of themselves and the last thing they want is their robots becoming too aware of themselves and exercising independent thought
Except for the fact that us 'robots' seem to be fully capable of thinking independently, and that independent thought is essential to function in the military.
But please, 'enlightened civilian', tell me how you're above it.
Rob have you ever spoken to Mark Devlin? He’s an Oxford born guy that I think you should have a chat with. He’s a former hip-hop DJ/music journalist and researcher and talks about how we are systematically brainwashed via the music industry, including movies. I think you might find him interesting.
This showed up in my feed as a recommendation. So as of now I think no manipulation has occurred. Thank you for your film analysis, on this and other films.
Goog to know :)
This showed up for me as a recommendation too. This is the first of your videos I have watched and my first time encountering your channel. I'm glad it was recommended to me!
same. and i wasn't subscribed at the time (no idea why though - the 2001 ideas are perfection)
me too, 10 hours after this comment
I was married to a marine and lived on several marine bases and i saw men get broken and others built up. My ex he was one of the broken and unfortunately he still is.
I loved this film and Kubrick is my very favorite director ever. I did an esaay on his work in film class and i appreciate this video and discussion it prompts. Great work 🙏💕✨
Great in depth analysis of this iconic masterpiece of a Vietnam movie
I love FMJ, Kubrick might be the best director or all time. Also you can't get people to follow orders and die for their country in a democratic system. It is authoritarian and if you want to win against an enemy that wants to kill you, you can't have everyone questioning every order. I will take a line from another military movie, "The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bustard die for his."
As much as I hate giving the government extra powers. Google has to be made to disclose their bias against certain creators and their content as well as their reasons for that bias.
Absolutely, given their dominance in the info sphere.
Nope I think the government needs to put the hammer down and force google and facebook to abide by the first amendment. Even though Google and facebook are private companies, restricting speech on these platforms is tantamount to restricting free speech, and the executives of these companies can control what gets disseminated into the public. The new policy should be you are allowed to say whatever the hell you want and still get monetized.
@@tag6502 The Constitution doesn't give you the right to deliberately spread lies.
"Freedom of Speech" doesn't mean what you've been told to think it means.
@@F_ckAllTrumpVoters Your username is something of a bias giveaway there. Both your party and that of your oppponents spread lots of "info" that the other claims are "lies". But no one can be given a monopoly on what is deemed truth or lie. because no one is perfect enough or honest enought to wield that power. That's why freedom of speech is important. If you have to silence your oppostion then you're more or less admitting you can't debate them effectively in an open arena of ideas.
@collativelearning The only entity to claim total "ownership" of the truth in your lifetime is the Church.
videos has been in my suggestions for the whole time it was uploaded
It's no wonder TH-cam would crack down on a video analyzing and detailing the mechanisms of *this subject.* It is the right hand of corporate globalism (among other things). Its chief stockholders are invested in washing.
Finally, it's back! Loved this, and I was wondering why it disappeared. The TH-cam algorithm is so lame.
Ad a former Marine I think Vietnam era up to before Gulf War era boot camp is a joke. It consisted of mostly drill and dormitory style hazing and shockingly little marksmanship or infantry training. The theatrics displayed by Gunny Hartman dont really have tactical benefit. So much time is wasted on dramatics to give pogues the false impression that they have been well trained.
If you are not a combat veteran, you will never get this movie...ever
My dad was a combat veteran (was in the Israeli Defense Force and was in combat for a skirmish called the "Yon Kippur War") And he got this movie through and through.
Kubrick himself wasn't a combat veteran. He wasn't even military trained. So why would you hold his movie up as being representative of the the combat veteran experience?
Trusting your own lived experience and intuition is the opposite of what your brain washers desire from you. Never forget this
I love and appreciate how you convinced me to watch this video right away by stating at the beginning that it would be one of the best and most important videos you’ve ever created.
I suspect it has something to do with a scummy attempt at prioritizing big movie analysis channels that offer lame videos that get millions of views, they don’t want everyone moving to higher quality independent film analysis channels
well, this is rather excellent. thanks rob. saving and sharing the video with my friends!
I'm happy to report this re-uploaded video was an algorithmic recommendation for me. Thanks for always producing such great and thoughtful videos!
Ironically, this is the first time a video of yours has been in my suggestions for years.
FMJ is a true masterpiece. Cheers
Just randomly aribed in my feed. Ok I looked up a FMJ clip. Never seen you before, so new viewer.
RE your intro: I personally feel your pain as I'm also very regularly subjected to Google's shadowbanning.
This is a horrible business practice and it needs to stop immediately!
My only hope, before Google becomes the all-encompassing Ministry of Truth its employees want it to be, is for people to wake up (unlikely, I know) or for better alternatives to finally step forward (Elon, please help).
TH-cam: This dictatorial reeducation program against your paying customers will bite you. Sooner or later.
(Now I'm curious if even this comment makes it through the ban wall.) Peace.
Elon is NOT our savior 😞
47:27 If you watch his speeches with subtitles, so you can actually understand what he says, it makes a lot of sense, which explains why a lot of people are noticing and sympathizing with him lately.
It's funny how we don't often get to read what he's saying isn't it? We just get to hear loud German being spoken.
As I said in the vid, a lot of brainwashing starts off witrh truthful elements to get people drawn in, then the bad stuff comes out the bag later.
Truly worth waiting for this one. Fantastic! My great thanks for this thoughtful discussion. I love your Kubrick work, and this was on yet another level. Thanks!
Thanks for the explanation Rob. 👍
18:25 I used to think military setvice served the ritualistic aspect of archaic societies Joseph cambell said was mostly missing in modern societies. To say it regresses the mind of men makes me wonder if I'm simply wrong, or it's specific to my country (Israel). In the context of cubrik, I've definitely seen it happen.
If this re-upload is identical to the original I think I know where the problem lies, of course I'm just guessing: the private committing sudoku (at 6:14 in this video).
Sunday evening sorted! Thanks Rob! Xxx
Kubrick would not be happy with the shadow ban.
the finest ever vietnam film filmed in britain
true😅
Blah blah blah. Aren't you clever.
They needed a devastated, disease-infested hell-hole to set the film in…..east London was perfect!
Meanwhile, EastEnders is filmed in Hanoi.
I love this movie so much. I've watched it so much that I can quote it from start to finish.
that's so sinister to not only shadow ban a video, but hide it from the uploader. imagine working at google or youtube and being explained how this works and then doing it. This is basically the public square now, what kind of person would be ok with that?
Aw, I remember watching this video. I downloaded this and watched it last year. This is such a great video that showcases your psychology experience and how you brilliantly dissect propaganda and brainwashing. Another classic from you Sir Rob.
I saw this movie just weeks before i I went to boot camp. It is not a pro Marine Corps movie. Anyone who thinks it is either doesn't understand the Corps or the movie.
Marines are thugs for big business. Nothing more.
Your video popped up in my feed for me when you uploaded at the very least.
One of my favorite videos from this channel over the last few years.
My first two months in Army basic training wasn’t too bad. But eventually the conditioning broke my will and it became very difficult. Became painfully homesick. Didn’t think I would make a career out of it but somehow I did. But that indoctrination peril is very rough for most people.
In a movie of many brilliant and iconic scenes, I think the “sniper’s last stand” sequence was the best. Even 37 years later, it makes my heart race.
I've also seen some of these techniques used in parenting. Amazing video.
1. Unit (immediate comrades)
2. Core (military industrial complex)
3.God (religion)
4. Country (nationalism)
Now, that's 4 cults into 1 doctrine.
Corps*
Ayyy long-form video essay!! Nice!
Kubrick's anti brainwashing masterpiece is still really Eyes Wide Shut. If anybody wants the beginning steps of understanding who exactly is "guiding" us, Look towards that film.
The cult in EWS isn't real, it's a hybrid representation of many secret societies, but the film also shows how conspiracy thinking can be taken too far. I mean the orgy is basically a dream sequence lol. Imo a lot of conspiracies are put out by the intel to scare people into silence and it works on a lot of people who consider themselves clued up.
@@collativelearning It is very real, I had a very close call in the mid 90's and was very lucky to escape getting too involved.
@@collativelearningIt is real.
@@collativelearningI have replied twice and both of my posts have disappeared. 🤔
@@collativelearningOh absolutely. Especially in the modern age where the internet has become a great tool for creating and spreading narratives to the masses. I've seen examples of that all over the place. Ppl claiming that this group over here runs everything or that group over there is behind it all. I've always believed the alphabet agencies are the ones pushing most of these narratives out there to funnel ppl down certain holes. It's why some end up so radicalized. Not everyone is capable of independent thought and analysis
Rob, what are your thoughts on decentralizing education, either home schooling or returning education to being locally or state run? IE: in the US there is talk of abolishing the Department of Education.
Appeared in my feed today. Great video btw
Was at top of my feed as soon as i opened TH-cam. A much appreciated start to the day
Is it possible the murder-suicide graphic scene in the beginning of the video is the reason for the shadow ban?
Probably now today
Hey man, loved your video analysis on the Shinning by Kubrick. ¿Will you ever analyze the film Joker 2 and why it failed with its core audience?
Thanks again for your great analysis.
I don't think it would be worth it.... they did that deliberately. It didn't fail at all.
@OfAngels444 Agreed but I would like to know his insight on the film's core message. Of course it depends if he considers making a video about this topic as "worth" for his channel.
I don’t think this video is shadow banned anymore! It popped in my feed and I assume it’s because I search for Kubrick videos regularly! Great video as usual and I’m glad it’s now more regularly available!!!
your videos are very interesting but would it be possible to have oppoortunity to activate subtitles?I am not mother tongue English and sometimes i do not catch some words/sentences.thx in advance.
I have to wait until the subtitles are generated by YT before I enable them. Sometimes this takes days.
Always happy to watch another of your videos.
Former Marine, '92-'98. I could summarize my experience as being in an environment desiged by for those suffering from crippling OCD.
Never knew this video was removed, it was one that really stuck with me too!
Fascistic Google.
I get that you're not denouncing all military training. That said, most recruits in basic training bring with them a certain mindset, that of faking it 'til you make it. Most of us knew it was just something to put up with for a few weeks, knowing we'll soon get on with our lives.
This was the first video in my feed. It seems you are back.
Thumbnail inspired by The Thing? Great video, Rob :)
Hi Rob, big fan been watching for a while. I also run yt channels, and while your initial theory is sound that the video probably got shadowbanned, it could have been for multiple reasons including "potentially unsafe" keywords. Your description alone contains a fair few, never mind the transcript and content of the video. The algorithm is beyond fickle and indecipherable.
Hopefully this one pops off, it got recommended to me
Just wanted to mention that this particular video has been recommended to me quite a bit over the last couple of weeks.
It's only been up four days, so couldn't have been recommended for weeks. However, there seems to be no shadowban this time around so far.
@@collativelearning Happy to see it though, and sorry, i guess time is going slow for me.
TH-cam has got to be one of the most mysterious public orgs out there.
If they publish how they arrive at decisions, people will take advantage of it, so we're left with this man-behind-the-curtain relationship.
After having watched the first 3,5 minutes I feel the need to tell you that I dont think its arbitrary who gets put on the naughty list and who doesn't. b-washing is googs bread and butter and any form of education on that topic needs to be dampened. I also doubt that it was done by human moderators.
this reminds me of the sort of Prussian militarism Foucault talks abt in Discipline and Punish. A lot of professional organizations (hospitals, schools, factories, etc.) need organized bodies trained to move in tandem with one another. Bodies trained with the same precision/discipline as a military marching on the battlefield. Easier to see if you thinking abt line warfare, but as technology improves, these movements don’t go away.. they just come in different (often more brutal) forms
I have not seen any of your videos yet this got recommended. Nice video thanks!
Great to see this outstanding vid back on YouTub! I believe the original vid had around 50,000 views within its first week before someone / something capped the view count. It was released at the right time with the right audience who, at the time, were so divided into extreme tribal camp mindsets on both sides with little intellectual balance.
So far, this new upload has got 9,050 views within its first 12 hours. Pretty good.
Regarding the Separation from Familiar Life bit. They used that technique to accelerate slaves compliance to their new conditions. Vastly new environments with people split from those who'd speak your dialect / language and then bring them up to speed with the "program".
You couldn't have picked a better time to upload this video. I wouldn't be surprised if this becomes one of your most watched videos eventually
I think this would have become my most watched video the first time around. Engagement was super high.
Return of the King: Rob Ager (Collative Learning)
46:30 "The prisoner who now stands before you...
Was caught red-handed showing feelings...
Showing feelings of an almost, human nature...
This will not do..!!"
First time i saw this movie i was stoned, and as soon as the fighting really started, i had a legit and deep panic attack that ive NEVER had from beholding a piece of media. And ive seen all the war movies...
Rob I'd love for you to do an analysis of Jarhead. It's kinda a more modern version of Full Metal Jacket.